Maxx M4W mtw hop-up setup & range test and in-depth talk! (It's AMAZING) PART 2/2

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  • Опубликовано: 9 июл 2024
  • Today I am using the Maxx mtw - M4W (demo) hop up unit. I am testing it for max, and I must say for being a demo model and not even the final version yet, I'm getting super scarred, this stuff is waaay to overpowerd! @maxxmodel
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    top 3 setup's:
    Maxx m4w with ML SM 70* with the Flat hop nub (square nub)
    Maxx m4w with ML SM 60* with the Flat hop nub (square nub)
    Stock hop unit green G&G with SI CNC 1.0
    other setup's can be seen in the time line:
    Chapters:
    0:00 Intro
    0:27 25/50/75m Maxx hop 70* ML test
    11:10 25/50/75m Stock hop + Green hop test
    18:44 25/50/75m Maxx hop + Gren G&G test
    26:00 25/50/75m Maxx hop 60* ML test
    34:42 Stock hop-unit is lose?
    35:11 25/50/75m Stock hop 70* ML test
    39:41 Stock hop + Green G&G
    42:12 Maxx hop 70* ML test
    44:48 25m Results
    45:45 50m Results
    46:34 75m Results
    48:10 Crono test
    48:53 Conclusion + ending
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  • @kaslab
    @kaslab  2 года назад +5

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  • @Reapah-MC
    @Reapah-MC 2 года назад +3

    Wickid vid brother very helpful !! Thankyou ! Love that you keep it 💯 homie no bullshit !! Big up Kaslab 🤜🤛🎯

    • @kaslab
      @kaslab  2 года назад +1

      Thanks mate glad you like the video, and thanks for the support man!

  • @Manson_Airsoft
    @Manson_Airsoft 2 года назад +1

    nice video! all ml buckings working without problems in my stock unit with silent industries arm and a davinci barrle. thx for the work and greez from germany

    • @kaslab
      @kaslab  2 года назад

      hey mate your welcome, glad the video is helping people out there ;)!

  • @SiliconeSword
    @SiliconeSword Год назад +3

    I'm glad to get a solid baseline for accuracy as I always thought that my guns were not that accurate, but it seems like we are both getting realistic results, not 100/100 shots on a cereal box at 90m.

    • @kaslab
      @kaslab  Год назад +1

      I try to keep things real when I do these videos, like only showing fact's and not sharing my "own opinion" to much since it does not matter if the data dont back it.

  • @TXC-kr4yq
    @TXC-kr4yq Год назад +3

    my mtw had a problem with the outer barrel and the inner barrel. There was a little play and that caused the inner barrel to wobble. Fixed it with some tape. That made the accuracy better

    • @kaslab
      @kaslab  Год назад

      Glad you fixed it 🤌🏻👍🏻

  • @christopherhayto1089
    @christopherhayto1089 2 года назад +2

    Great testing, i have tried stock and phoenix unit i had ML silicone buckings of all patch shapes all jam, can't wait for maxx unit as my MTW seems very sensitive to changing hop rubbers, something to note about mtw in billet gen 2 hop unit they have rotational play in the hop unit to outer barrel a few degree's i shimmed mine with electric tape to stop hop unit rotating stop potential flyers

    • @kaslab
      @kaslab  2 года назад

      thanks much appricated, and that's a good trick!

    • @FatalPrescription
      @FatalPrescription 2 года назад +1

      Assuming this is around the front where it plugs into the upper?

    • @christopherhayto1089
      @christopherhayto1089 2 года назад +1

      @@FatalPrescription yes there's a slot in outer barrel which hop unit slides into

  • @impactrenoairsoft7383
    @impactrenoairsoft7383 2 года назад +4

    When doing tests like this, I would suggest utilizing a low variable power optic of at least 6x or use a glow shot reactive target so you can see hits at distance ;) you can really track bbs at distance with a 1-6x scope. Thx for the testing though!

    • @kaslab
      @kaslab  2 года назад +1

      Hey this will happen in the future, since I started working with Vortex.

    • @impactrenoairsoft7383
      @impactrenoairsoft7383 2 года назад

      @@kaslab oh excellent I’ll suggest the viper 1-6x :) unless you want to go big and get the razor 1-10 $$$

    • @kaslab
      @kaslab  2 года назад

      @@impactrenoairsoft7383 Im more like a strike eagle my self ;)

  • @airsoft.hummer
    @airsoft.hummer Год назад +2

    Thanks for sharing this in-depth test!
    For sure it was interesting how results are without wind, but that's mostly not the case on the field anyway.
    Btw, what barrel was it you're using? And with what inner diameter?
    Thanks kaslab!

    • @kaslab
      @kaslab  Год назад +1

      Hey hummer, I used the stock MTW barrel and the madbull barrel, but currently I use umbrella armory eu R-hopped barrel + their bucking in the m4w which is VERY nice

    • @airsoft.hummer
      @airsoft.hummer Год назад +1

      @@kaslab Ay, thanks =) Not familiar with the stock barrel unfortunately. But yes, I watched one of your vids about you getting into rhapsodies about the umbrella setup :3
      Sounded very nice indeed.
      Thanks also for putting up a discount code for us! I'll be glad about when going shopping at UA.

    • @kaslab
      @kaslab  Год назад

      @@airsoft.hummer ofc, that's the least they can do you know! :D

  • @jimfowler4924
    @jimfowler4924 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for the video, it was very informative. One question though because I don't think you mentioned it, what weight bb are you using for the tests please?

    • @kaslab
      @kaslab  2 года назад +2

      Glad you liked the video! took a lot of work even though its so scuffed haha... But it says in the corner of the video, but I use .36's for all of it.

    • @jimfowler4924
      @jimfowler4924 2 года назад +1

      @@kaslab thank you, I watched the video on my phone and can't read the text on the screen. Appreciate you replying so quickly 🙂

    • @kaslab
      @kaslab  2 года назад

      @@jimfowler4924 No worries, and fair point I gotta think about that for next time! and ofc I love to answer comments ;)!

  • @franciscojavieramezcuafern1209
    @franciscojavieramezcuafern1209 Год назад +3

    I "think" that when you set up/change the hop Up you have to do at least 15 shots to let It do the work properly and after that you can take in account the results. Good video.

    • @kaslab
      @kaslab  Год назад +1

      glad you liked it!

  • @strike_airsoft6100
    @strike_airsoft6100 2 года назад +2

    Okay... I am getting one 100% this is fucking sick!

    • @kaslab
      @kaslab  2 года назад

      I love mine!

  • @Reapah-MC
    @Reapah-MC 2 года назад +1

    Yesss !!!!!!

    • @kaslab
      @kaslab  2 года назад +1

      yeeeeeeeeeeees brooooooooooooo!

  • @wescoupland3985
    @wescoupland3985 Год назад +1

    If I can recommend something if you used heavier BB's like I do use a flat hop or better yet this is my combo Prometheus flat purple bucking and nub, s-hop and using a pdi barrel on I'm getting incredible range and accuracy that grouping is mine at 150ft maximum range 300ft my normal range with best long range results is 250ft depending on the weather 265.

  • @bupamania
    @bupamania Год назад

    Hej Kaslab, very nice comparsion! I wonder whats your oppinion on the MTW Alpha Hopup from Silent Industries vs the M4W ?

    • @kaslab
      @kaslab  Год назад

      I use m4w in all my mtws,

  • @markuslinde484
    @markuslinde484 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for the testing! What innerbarrel did you use for the tests?

    • @kaslab
      @kaslab  2 года назад

      I use the stock barrel, and a madbull stainless steel barrel, same result pretty much.

    • @justairsoft
      @justairsoft 2 года назад

      @@kaslab you should try the pdi 6.01 barrel..you‘ll see a difference like day and night

    • @kaslab
      @kaslab  Год назад

      @@justairsoft nah mate, I used PDI barrels, I used like 10 different barrels, they're kinda the same, as long as the barrel window fit's and the polish is half decent we good.

    • @justairsoft
      @justairsoft Год назад

      @@kaslab Okay, but me and all my friends had different experiences with pdi barrels. I also tried stock, Madbull and Lambda barrels and from all of them the pdi barrel showed by far the best results. No matter if the MTW or any other airsoft replica.

  • @Affenkopf
    @Affenkopf 10 месяцев назад +1

    Hey man u did a great testing there. May i ask u what suppressor ur using most of the time? What inserts are the best for the job?

    • @kaslab
      @kaslab  10 месяцев назад +1

      Old video I don’t know sorry, also it was just some random no name suppressor..

    • @Affenkopf
      @Affenkopf 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@kaslab No problem. But what is ur favourite suppressor atm?

    • @kaslab
      @kaslab  10 месяцев назад +1

      @@Affenkopf I use the same as when I started, got two random ones, both got foam in them, they’re not very silent, just made to sound good to be on video. They’re shown in my RUclips shorts here : Can you silence a HPA?
      ruclips.net/user/shortsMLZHWM8myMc?feature=share hope it helps a little.

  • @markoveljkovic3277
    @markoveljkovic3277 5 месяцев назад +1

    Hiii Kaslab, can you make video regarding bucking's, what * on maple mean what and the difference, for hpa and aeg guns? Thanks

    • @kaslab
      @kaslab  5 месяцев назад

      HPA and AEG is the same no difference in buckings.. Its just about what fits in the hop unit and barrel combo your using. I can think about it, but not sure i can add much to the subject.

  • @balutraildog6692
    @balutraildog6692 2 года назад +1

    Nice one...Abo ✌

    • @kaslab
      @kaslab  2 года назад

      Thanks 🤘🔥👍

  • @imflud
    @imflud Год назад +1

    i have a 1st gen mtw and I have so many feeding issues, I even tried shaving down an advanced feed tube to fit and still having issues. Any fixes please?

    • @kaslab
      @kaslab  Год назад

      * answerd on discord*

  • @DgR1716
    @DgR1716 Год назад +2

    Great vid, 👍
    I did have to watch about 55 ads tho 😭

    • @kaslab
      @kaslab  Год назад +1

      glad you liked the video, and yeah sorry, gotta turn on those adds, the amount of time and money I spend on those test videos are crazy :D

    • @DgR1716
      @DgR1716 Год назад +1

      I can appreciate that, this type of video is very needed in airsoft as I tech my own airsoft toy guns also and always running into some sort of problem, so to see a vid on upgrading along with problems, different set up’s and solutions is great info, so thanks for the content 👊

    • @kaslab
      @kaslab  Год назад +2

      @@DgR1716 thanks, that means a lot 🤌🏻👌🏻👍🏻

  • @TurbodTV
    @TurbodTV 6 месяцев назад +1

    What wheel setting number do you use for the 25 meter and 50 meter target?

    • @kaslab
      @kaslab  6 месяцев назад

      This video is old I do not know sorry.

  • @alexdaly2858
    @alexdaly2858 2 года назад +1

    Maxx take my money now!!

  • @screamified409
    @screamified409 2 года назад +1

    Weird the stock hop didn't work with 70° ml bucking, i have a totally stock hop up with the said bucking and snipetor concave nub, it shoots like a dream the only thing i have is that the gun sometimes underhops or its because the fps is just less every now and then. Only got the mtw recently so still working out the little problems.

    • @kaslab
      @kaslab  2 года назад +2

      yeah I don't know, my mtw is old AF... maybe the unit is starting to show it's age ;)!

    • @xiaofanxu5770
      @xiaofanxu5770 Год назад +1

      Try to search HOW TO ADJUST THE DWELL OF MTW on RUclips, your problem sounds like a dwell problem. Hope this helps you

  • @jakeoakley424
    @jakeoakley424 6 месяцев назад

    What weight bb and joules was the test conducted using?

    • @kaslab
      @kaslab  6 месяцев назад

      it says in the corner of the video for each part ; )

  • @syncFIN
    @syncFIN 2 года назад +1

    Why didnt you compare it to phoenix hop? I thought you have had best results with phoenix this far.

    • @kaslab
      @kaslab  2 года назад +2

      Phoenix and stock preforms the same on semi for me. Phoenix uses a little less air also.

  • @kev1n-mrairsoft
    @kev1n-mrairsoft 2 года назад +1

    What about the Invictus Phoenix Hop? Does is shoot like the Maxx Up?

    • @kaslab
      @kaslab  2 года назад

      The maxx works better for me, since it's super easy to set up.

    • @kev1n-mrairsoft
      @kev1n-mrairsoft 2 года назад +1

      @@kaslab Do you need to hold the maxx up unit to avoid "wappling" or something? Silent industries is Selling a Adapter für 4,50€

    • @kaslab
      @kaslab  Год назад

      @@kev1n-mrairsoft Nope never had any issues.

  • @Rezer0554
    @Rezer0554 2 года назад +1

    how good is the flat hop on this thing?

    • @kaslab
      @kaslab  2 года назад

      Amazing tbh.. 75 meters 8/10 hits its very good to me at low jules.

  • @GP-jh6ti
    @GP-jh6ti 11 месяцев назад

    You should show us a chrony test because I'm wonder how much variation you have which can explain unregulated shoots. I have two MTW with 2 differents setup one have only max 2fps of variation on the other 7-8 fps of variation. My best result is with 60° red madbull with phoenix hop up. I tried many maple leaf but never get good result

    • @kaslab
      @kaslab  11 месяцев назад

      Thanks 👍🏻

  • @MartinJHarris
    @MartinJHarris 11 месяцев назад

    would this be the same with just AEG no HPA..?

    • @kaslab
      @kaslab  11 месяцев назад

      I mean this hop unit is only for the MTW.. but they have one for normal style AEG hop-unit that does that same ;)

  • @Courtesyflush52
    @Courtesyflush52 2 года назад +3

    To comment on your disclaimer at the beginning, anyone can call themselves an 'airsoft tech'. There's no certification or training. It's just anyone who messes around with airsoft guns and some are just more skilled than others. So you don't have to worry

    • @kaslab
      @kaslab  2 года назад

      I prefer it that way, so people won't be toools and if they are I can just say... He look at the disclaimer ; )

  • @pillea930
    @pillea930 Год назад

    I have feeding problems with the m4w Hop Up but i dont know what the Problem is😅

    • @kaslab
      @kaslab  Год назад

      You use EPM1 mags?

  • @wescoupland3985
    @wescoupland3985 Год назад +1

    That's quite hot no mind you I live in Canada we are allowed up to 1.5 joules for cqb and up to 1.8 joules for dmr with 0.20s.

    • @kaslab
      @kaslab  Год назад

      doing crono with .20's is a very outdated method, and can result in a lot of cheating/juelcreep.. but Denmark is known for very high jules.. we're allowed 2.89J DMR and 3-5J snipers ;)

  • @wescoupland3985
    @wescoupland3985 Год назад +1

    Hey so 1.69 joules with 0.36 or 1.69 at 0.20 then using 0.36?

    • @kaslab
      @kaslab  Год назад

      1,69J with .36's.. In denmark we only crono with the bb's you use in game.. So you wont get people who try to cheat the system.

  • @snabelentertainment8689
    @snabelentertainment8689 2 года назад +1

    I what to use a cross fire on my ics gun that is werry nice

  • @robertwestermeier7301
    @robertwestermeier7301 Год назад +1

    Can you ad in discription which ML (Macaron or Super Mac...) an which maxx Tensioners you used?

    • @kaslab
      @kaslab  Год назад +2

      would be smart to do actually ima do it right now.. but for you I used both Maple leaf supermacroon 60 and 70* and the best nub from the maxx m4w hop unit for me was the square flat nub.

  • @thatguy7127
    @thatguy7127 2 года назад

    I have 4 emp1 mags and none feed right same symptoms

    • @kaslab
      @kaslab  2 года назад +1

      It's not the mags, it was the bucking setup, that doesn't work for me.

    • @thatguy7127
      @thatguy7127 2 года назад +1

      @@kaslab did you do anything to wear your in?

    • @kaslab
      @kaslab  Год назад

      @@thatguy7127 I have heard there is a million problems, I am going to move over to the new gen PTS mags prob.

  • @Tim0xyz.
    @Tim0xyz. 2 года назад +1

    Which nub did you use in the Maxx with the ML 70* ? 😂

    • @kaslab
      @kaslab  2 года назад +1

      This was with the square nub it comes with.

    • @Tim0xyz.
      @Tim0xyz. 2 года назад +1

      @@kaslab did u Test the concave nun already ? Heard good things About it :)

    • @kaslab
      @kaslab  Год назад

      @@Tim0xyz. Is the square nub was better for me since I use r-hop now.

  • @gunner-vo7ig
    @gunner-vo7ig Год назад

    This 70* Maple Laef is to Hard. Better for HPA is the Super Macaron 60* Yellow

    • @kaslab
      @kaslab  Год назад

      I dont agree, with my setup, and in a "inferno gen 2" the ML SM 70* fits better at 1.69J with .40's which I use.. It last longer, and shoot's longer, but 60* could work better for you who knows ; )

  • @ironhulk1979
    @ironhulk1979 2 года назад +1

    Think 70deg is too hard and never had good results with a super macaron i have tried the 70 degree macaron with the stock unit i did not have feeding problems but groupings where terrible

    • @kaslab
      @kaslab  2 года назад

      Not to me, it works amazing at 1,69 jules with .36's ;)

    • @christopherhayto1089
      @christopherhayto1089 2 года назад +2

      my mtw seems to hate any ML rubber

    • @alexdaly2858
      @alexdaly2858 2 года назад +1

      @@christopherhayto1089 mines happy with a 60 deg MR 2021

    • @christopherhayto1089
      @christopherhayto1089 2 года назад +1

      @@alexdaly2858 i had mr 60 silicone in jammed, mr hop normal rubber just not good accuracy bucking lips on new silicone version are so much tighter

    • @alexdaly2858
      @alexdaly2858 2 года назад +1

      I hope it runs ok today then, or I will put the blue macron back in....

  • @sonnsobek7633
    @sonnsobek7633 2 года назад +1

    Make more videos bro 🔥
    👌 Get like get coment on this ! Airsoft Beast sport ewer ! ✨🔥
    ✊What you mean about me airsoft videos ?

  • @Terminatorbart
    @Terminatorbart 2 года назад +1

    Bucking too long, just cut it! 😁

    • @kaslab
      @kaslab  2 года назад +1

      I mean sure, but this was about drop-in not modding the buckings.