No what happened was is the class 91s had to be temporarily taken out of service so eurostar leased some of their trains while the 91s were away. When the 91s came back it was given back to eurostar.
If HS2 is completed eventually, and they had decided to use these old e300's (not like they will nowadays), maybe this is what it would be like having high speed rail trains on classic lines. Great catches, wish I was older at that time period to film them
Another thing is they may end up going for things like the Velaro's from Germany, or maybe a TGV derivative from France. I only wish it would be Bombardier to design another model of their Zefiro range so it could be built domestically here in Britain, giving us actual manufacturing jobs.
p Odunlami it still can be as Eurostar still own some track access licences in the uk back from when they were looking at Regional Eurostar but we might still get it one day now we are getting HS2
It's quite possible that some of those sets featured in this video have now been scrapped. My guess is that by the time HS2 is built and in service it won't be 373's that will be running on the line given their age and mileage
Technical problems apparently - they drew more power than the 225s, more than the ECML could deliver, so had to run at reduced speeds, and the carriages were too long so couldn't run north of York (bridge widths/curves?) Shame, they did look like very nice trains; GNER was a great service until Byers pulled the plug and handed it to National Express to wreck...
Platform length is only one part of it - they'd need to upgrade the overhead power supplies to get those trains over 110 mph, widen or straighten bridge and curve segments - or they could just buy Azumas which fit the current track instead. (Long term, I'd hope they are trying to straighten and widen the route with more power available as maintenance makes it feasible, but it doesn't make sense for now. And, of course, if they do start upgrading, it should surely be to get better than 125mph, not just to be able to run ex-Eurostar rolling stock at the same speed an HST already manages!)
When did theses roaring beasts begin service on the ECML, and why and when did they stop and for what reason ? , not heard anything like it since the days of the superb days of the roaring Deltics , and that thing Azuma is nothing but a glorified EMU ,how downhill the ECML has gone from the glorious A4s , Deltics and theses euro stars ,to that horrible Azuma EMU
there weren't many of them, were over engineered for the purpose they would serve and in some places only one train could run in either direction as they drew too much power
If the 373's continued that service, they would've seen the Virgin Trains East Coast livery... Just picture that for a second.
No what happened was is the class 91s had to be temporarily taken out of service so eurostar leased some of their trains while the 91s were away. When the 91s came back it was given back to eurostar.
@@xm3405 took a couple years the class 43 had a record breaker as its helper
If HS2 is completed eventually, and they had decided to use these old e300's (not like they will nowadays), maybe this is what it would be like having high speed rail trains on classic lines. Great catches, wish I was older at that time period to film them
No, HS2 will be running at 25omph so they are getting chinese bullet trains.
xm3 well we don't know for sure if it'll be bullet trains. I for one would like to see Bombardier give us one of their super fast high speed trains
well it has to be capable of 250mph
Another thing is they may end up going for things like the Velaro's from Germany, or maybe a TGV derivative from France. I only wish it would be Bombardier to design another model of their Zefiro range so it could be built domestically here in Britain, giving us actual manufacturing jobs.
i agree for the class 373 on the hs2 i want it to come to my local city of birmingham
Eurostar Class 373s on ECML, in GNER livery and classic white livery, with 4 standard class coaches.
They look far superior to the ieps.
Good old 373 class Eurostars on High Speed One racing through Ashford International at 90-100 MPH
Wish it was like this today :(
p Odunlami it still can be as Eurostar still own some track access licences in the uk back from when they were looking at Regional Eurostar but we might still get it one day now we are getting HS2
It's quite possible that some of those sets featured in this video have now been scrapped. My guess is that by the time HS2 is built and in service it won't be 373's that will be running on the line given their age and mileage
actually as of today no Eurostar's ever use the east coast mainline again
They are becoming german trains (the siemens velaro) then they will be looking at chinese high speed trains
Trains on HS2 will be running at 250mph and they are getting very fast bullet trains from china.
Better than the class 90's. Why didn't the ECML keep them?
I'm not sure it might have been the hire charges. Thanks for watching.
Ok No problem
Technical problems apparently - they drew more power than the 225s, more than the ECML could deliver, so had to run at reduced speeds, and the carriages were too long so couldn't run north of York (bridge widths/curves?)
Shame, they did look like very nice trains; GNER was a great service until Byers pulled the plug and handed it to National Express to wreck...
They could extend the platforms. They are doing it with TFL Rail.
Platform length is only one part of it - they'd need to upgrade the overhead power supplies to get those trains over 110 mph, widen or straighten bridge and curve segments - or they could just buy Azumas which fit the current track instead. (Long term, I'd hope they are trying to straighten and widen the route with more power available as maintenance makes it feasible, but it doesn't make sense for now. And, of course, if they do start upgrading, it should surely be to get better than 125mph, not just to be able to run ex-Eurostar rolling stock at the same speed an HST already manages!)
The ECML 373s should be re used in "LNER" livery along side the AZUMA 800s
They were only temporarily on the ecml
When did theses roaring beasts begin service on the ECML, and why and when did they stop and for what reason ? , not heard anything like it since the days of the superb days of the roaring Deltics , and that thing Azuma is nothing but a glorified EMU ,how downhill the ECML has gone from the glorious A4s , Deltics and theses euro stars ,to that horrible Azuma EMU
there weren't many of them, were over engineered for the purpose they would serve and in some places only one train could run in either direction as they drew too much power
That's how powerful they are
what year did you peter filmed the eurostars on the east coast mainline
It was around 2002/3. Did not record the actual date.
@@peteracres2594oh okay
What happened to GNER's 373 class white rose train when the GNER livery was scrapped?
It went back to eurostar
374
@@Transportationgames no that wasn't a 374 they don't look like that