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"Affiliates are no longer permitted to use Amazon web pages in their videos" TRANSLATION Amazon doesn't want people to know they happily allow dubious companies to promote and sell their products through their website. Amazon is like Disney. They preach about equality and human rights YET do business with China and other countries who are the VERY SAME countries who have spent over 50 years abusing and oppressing their people. The West is a hypocrite. If people KNEW what conditions workers from these countries work in and how their governments treat them? People would be ashamed buying their products.
I am so tired of the completely bought out fake reviewers with their crappy acting talking about how good these trash products are. I am glad Ben is out here for us. Thank you Ben.
Alpha M talking about MVMT/Vincero as if they are the best watches and how you don't need a Rolex because it's overpriced....and then wears his Rolex in all other videos where MVMT/Vincero aren't sponsors :D
That’s because he is worth millions now and will advertise for any company that pays his fees. It’s sad that he was not happen making a million a year he sold out for the extra million. He should of built his brand and not sold out to cheap brands that just want to advertise to his viewers. I think he still makes good videos I just would stay away from any product he is advertising
@@BensWatchClub I am from Pakistan.I want to buy a new watch..Please suugest me a reasonable watch brand to buy..What's your idea about Daniel wellington? ?
Years ago when I was still new to the “style rabbit hole” I had bought a watch from The Fifth after seeing a video from RMRS the watch looked...fine but the original strap was itchy and unwearable. It wasn’t until much later I came across your channel exposing MVMT. That level of honesty really hooked me especially after you exposed The Fifth and Vincero (a brand I had really been interested in thanks to those bigger style channels). I definitely felt betrayed by Antonio and those other bigger channels to the point I stopped watching them entirely. I still have The Fifth watch mainly as a reminder that most “guru” types are usually just after their own interests. Without the OG Ben Arthur channel I’d probably have sunk a few hundred into a vincero watch and a pair of fancy dress shoes that don’t fit right.
@@BensWatchClub im not so much into the style thing anymore after learning the basic rules. But i really enjoy your videos theyve helped me learn that just because something is “cheap” it doesnt have to be poor quality.
@@Christian-ed5uc honestly its beyond insidious to me, itd be like a carpenter telling me to buy mahogany furniture and he knows its actually made of plywood. Their violating the trust of their viewers for profit.
Make me wonder if Antonio's style advice is as good as his sponsorship judgement. His perfume taste definitely isn't as good as he wants to make it seem, considering it parrots opinions of other mainstream fragrance RUclipsrs. Pro tip: you want good fragrance advice? Gents Scents and Smelling Good Fragrance.
@@rob5343 I usually just point them in the direction of a brand that actually delivers quality and looks similar to what they want. Ben's recommendations really help.
They likely just don't know any better and have never worn an actual good watch. For them a MVMT might possibly be the most luxourious watch ever. Kinda like how people who've only driven Toyotas sit inside a Tesla for the first time and think that the Tesla is luxury.
@@AkunPulivari You could not be more wrong....regardless of how annoying 'those RUclipsrs' are, you cannot be stupid to become a successful Influencer. They know exactly what they are selling to their viewers, it's simply shameless. They might not be into watches, but you can bet if they were, it would be straight for the Rolex's (not saying Rolex's are bad) but let's be honest - anyone who cares about how they are perceived by others and want to give off that look of success would just gravitate toward Rolex, they don't need to do the research it takes that normally watch enthusiasts would...
@@AkunPulivari alpha m, real men real style, teaching men’s fashion, and alex costa all promote MVMT, vincero, and so on religiously. However, they have Rolex, hublot, omega, and other luxury brands. They get these sponsorships from these watch companies and only wear their expensive watches. You can spot the ad coming miles away in every Alpha M video when he isn’t wearing his rose gold Rolex gmt or rose gold yacht master.
@@huckinator Ok, I wasn't aware of these channels. The only one I recognized was Jacksfilms, who is a comedian and doesn't seem go intentionally mislead with these MVMT sponsorships.
For what it's worth my wife bought me a Fossil Chronograph (different model from the one in the video) and it's been solid. Definitely still a fashion watch but it hits its markers and has functioning pushers and working crown. Also thought you might find it interesting that Carrnegie watches is going out of business and I got an add for their closeout sale. The watch you reviewed is on sale for $30 and you spoke fairly highly of the watch in the video when it was priced around $150. Thought that was something followers of this channel might be interested in knowing! Glad I found this channel a year or so ago love the content!
I agree, a trophy next time. Remember to sell the concept of an exclusive trophy, made by the world's most famous craftsmen, out of high end materials found in trophies of much higher price, then buy a job lot from AliExpress.
The worst watch I ever saw was at Target, as part of their otherwise fine Goodfellow clothing line. It was a quartz monstrosity with zero branding on the dial, a fixed fake rotating bezel, and "pushers" that were molded into the case body of the watch. The funny thing is they were also selling perfectly acceptable Timex watches right next to them.
Had the same experience. I like Target's clothing line a lot because I usually have to buy dolls but they run long. I was excited when I saw they had a watch section only to be disappointed. I work with students and one was wearing one of those watches the other day and wanted to have a intervention lol
Yes those sound bad, but how much are they asking for them? If they're like $6 then I'm fine with it. The brands Ben talks about here are another matter though.
Great video Ben. Hugely entertaining, I laughed out loud a number of times. Unbelievable what some watch companies get up to. Thankfully we’ve got YT’ers like yourself, Gary (I Like Watches), Dan (Watch me with watches), and of course Jody (JOMW) to set us straight.
Pointing out the rubbish watches is very important! Excellent video. I do love Orient, have a fantastic Mako XL Diver, but that one you showed, complete faux pas! I think someone was smoking the wacky tobaccy when they designed that dial!
As usual on your channel, this video is very well-made: good script, good photography, good audio, good editing. Just very well-done all around. Still, even by your high standards, the muted scream at 0:37 stands out. A small masterpiece.
I do have the Pathfinder from Fossil (SOLAR) so far no complaints. I had many watches like OMEGA, BREITLING IWC, MAURICE LACROIX, ROLEX, TISSOT, SEIKO, CITIZEN CASIO,JUNGHANS, ORIENTetc..Most I gave away to my Family because if you don't use them they can break. Now I'm 75 years old and have bought a watch that I like the look/design and solar driven similar to ECO DRIVE which is convenient. Don't need a watch that lasts for a long time at my age it is irrelevant!
It seems as if unsponsored reviews (or even genuine sentiments) are rare these days. Your candor stands out from a multitude of other review videos. It is impressive. Thanks!
Sorry you bought a rubish Fossil watch. My fossil is over 10 years old, bought on ebay for a fiver as the crystal was smashed, but on receipt I was blown away. Its a chrono, has a decent quartz movement, solid links as well as solid end links and a milled clasp. On seeing how beatiful it was i cleaned it up and bought a saphire crystal for it. Some manufacturers may originally bring out good watches and then cash in on their label, and some do it the other way round, who knows as I agreed with your review of that particular watch in any event. I love watches, but like most people I cant afford a 5k premium for a trumped up stainless steel brand. However i do appreciate good design and good value spec and the more people are made aware of the latter the better as most viewers are probably in my position or if not they're just kidding themselves . All the best buddy.
A good list of don'ts. I'll save my money and wait for the future Spaghetti Scametti "Tricolore" series: "Pesto" (green dial), "Quattro formaggi" (white dial), "Bolognese" (red dial).
Having worked for FOSSIL watches, I can tell you without a doubt that was an outlet watch- which are terrible 😳. An authentic FOSSIL is much nicer in quality and movement. The leather is real and ages well, and the movement is a lot better. Another shot at them, is alll I’m saying haha
I have 2 Fossil watches I bought a few years ago and still really happy with both of them. One has a leather strap and it has indeed worn in very nicely.
Even if this video is old now, I want to congratulate you for dealing with those excuses of watches on order to warn us about which companies we have to stay from. That No Label company made me pissed the most, as it's unacceptable that they try to sell no logo watches from Aliexpress by doubling their original prices.
Hello Ben I'm very new to the Watch scene. And I appreciate the honest opinions alot because the more I've learned about quality from you and sources online ive had a great expereince now. Thank you, Newly found watch lover
Another nice video Ben. Its great when you big up good value watches, and also when you point out rip offs with terrible quality. I know the disappointment when you get something and quickly realise "this is rubbish".
I am usually a big fan of Orient, but the SK "diver" made me wonder if they had been bought out by some awful company that wanted to destroy their brand. Cheap and Gaudy is the perfect description. Re: Vincero, the herpes of watch ads, it took me ages to stop the barrage of ads and videos trying to sell me one of their overpriced watches. I am afraid to say the word Vincero out loud in front of my phone, for fear of unleashing another assault of Vincero ads.
Thank you for making this video, Ben. I was about to purchase a Vincero, after watching a few reviews from some other "influencers". Glad you call out scammers like this. So in my limited research, I came upon the 96B131 from Bulova. What are your thoughts on these? I like the look of it, and the price is also within my range. If you can recommend a couple of alternatives would be much appreciated as well. Thank you for all your hard work.
Watches aren't needs for very many people. They have very little utility in today's world. The way I see it, a watch is a fashion accessory or an investment piece. It can be both. If you don't have the money, or don't want to spend the money to buy an investment-level watch, then holding value isn't part of the equation. At that point just buy whatever watch you like best as a fashion accessory, and can easily afford. I don't see a middle ground when it comes to watches in today's world. It's either an investment or a fashion piece.
I had to learn the hard way after buying the same Fossil watch that's on this list (the strap tore after about a year and the replacement costed almost as much as the watch itself). I'm now trying to shed light on the whole cheaply made 'fashion' watches on my channel, as well as suggesting better alternatives! I've honestly learned so much from you, mate!
I've been watching you (ahem - sorry) for a short while but a minute or two into this video I decided to subscribe: based on your honesty and the fact your're prepared to call out the bull****ers on RUclips, the so-called 'influencers' peddling very poor quality. I salute you and long my integrity and honesty prevail. x Tony
You saved me from mvmt, I know nothing of watches, I have been using only 1 one watch in my life the f91w, after 12 years of use it finally died so I was looking for a watch to use every day so I saw the iron mvmt automatic watch for 269 pounds, thank God I saw your warning, I ended up buying the DW5600 and saved 212 pounds, super happy with my indestructible watch 👌
Your channel is so good in meta wrist watch videos, fantastic content. IMHO another key to identify these channels is that suddenly they all review the same watch..
Totally agree with you Ben. These are junk watches. You can get better value watches for less to than these overpriced overrated junk watches. Seiko is a good value and even vintage watches can get you a good brand for the price of an mvmt. Ben keep making videos exposing the garbage watches to help people understand products before purchasing. Keep up the good work.
The only bad thing about the Orient was it's water resistance. You made it sound like it was the ugliest watch ever made and that it was made of bad parts or something. The watch looks just fine.
Love the vid, but disagree on the Orient SK Diver. It is PERFECT 70s kitsch! No one buying that watch (back in the day) took it anywhere near actual water unless they were going to the casino pool. I suspect Orient know their clientele here. It is complete cheese, but the good kind.
I have a question for Ben, what are your thoughts on homage watches, are they worth it. Best homage watche brands so that I can look at them. Great video btw.
Hi Rohan. Anything with a Seiko NH35 or NH36 movement. Anything with an automatic Miyota movement mainly. I have a few. Steeldive is massive bang for your buck and is truly awesome. Try Addiesdive and Pagani Design. Watch other reviewers. Invicta get mixed reviews. I have a Corgeut James Bond watch Omega copy and a Pagani Design James Bond Omega copy. They are excellent. There are literally hundreds of submariner homages out there with many just rubbish. If you want to try a real cheapie you can get a Paulareis (daft name) homage Omega made of coated alloy with a Chinese automatic movement for under 20 quid from Ali Express. I've got about three of these including the Apollo 11 moon watch. They're bang on in terms of calibration. My Benyar "Rolex" Explorer was just over priced junk. Advertised as 316L stainless steel, it turned out to be coated alloy and couldn't keep time. Don't rule out watches with thr Chinese movements in them either. There's a lot of value if you know what to look for. Thet come with no real customer service or guarantees from AliExpress though. They could last 6 weeks, 6 months or 6 years and over. Servicing might be a future problem. Go for a Seiko or a Miyota movement and don't rule out the Chinese seagull movement. For up to 60 quid for a Steeldive you can get a really excellent quality watch. I have the Captain Willard. 👍
Glad to see a Lorus in the opening clip of the video. I myself have one that belonged to my grandfather, a V515-8A00 "Gent's wristwatch, gold-tone, quarts." which unfortunately wasn't operating. A quick trip to the watch hospital and it's thankfully had a movement made for it by Seiko that should last it! It is immaculate, not a single scratch and the coloring is still as if it's fresh from the store.
Loving my second hand £50 cadisen after I saw you review the movement arc automatic. My first mechanical watch! Rotor is a bit noisy but the miyota movement is pretty accurate.
Comparing a Daniel (David?) Wellington to a Junkers must hurt a lot ! Very good channel, Always love my Yemas, Junkers and even Spinnakers (I know, but for the price the 5075 is nice)
There is something off about that Fossil. This may sound weird, but maybe it was a counterfeited... Or maybe Fossils are just so hit or miss... I have a few of them, quite satisfied. Only buy from physical stores. They appear to be of a relatively good quality with little to no defects. Leather bands are good and comfy, none have fake or unused functions. Also, they have great instore customer support. Watches are often discounted, so I get nice pieces $40-$100 range. Cool hybrid offerings.
Vincero had an ad before you can click past it on youtube a couple of weeks/months ago about unboxing. It was something like: "First impression wow, it got marble in the back, cool design and the strap is a little stiff but that just means it will last a long time"
I don’t trust any watch reviewer who isn’t a fan of Casio and doesn’t recommend or own one of the plethora of $10, $20, $30 watches Casio makes that give you more bang for your buck. All the review channels I subscribe and watch have at least a handful of videos featuring Casio.
Funny enough is that the first watch that got me into watches was a vincero which I bought and was so disappointed that I had to do some research afterwards and buy something else instead.. rocking Casio sieko and citizens ever since
I found this video really interesting! It blows my mind how these companies will try and sell these crap watches and I find it deeply shameful but unsurprising that these 'Influencers' have no principles about promoting naff watch brands or watches to their audience.
After seeing Nyjah Huston (one of my favourite Skaters) in the MVMT video I did a quick google and got really disappointed. He seriously had a Limited Edition Signature Watch with them that sold for 180€. Obviously the specs are as garbage as you'd expect. What's super ridiculous, Nyjah is known for being pretty adventures, aside from skating he's driving MotoCross, often goes hiking and whatnot. The first block on the page of the watch actually says it has 10ATM, which would be at least something, but when you scroll down and read the specs it says only 5ATM.
Top job Ben. Influencers allegedly appear to influence the lazy bunch that can't be bothered to research or possibly those fashion followers who just have to get what top influencer 'John/Jane Doe' described as a solution to the savior of the human race followed by some cute animals in a review video. All push without any apparent accountability. Keep up the great work Ben. All good information for anyone with a positive IQ.
The BMI of 5000 comment had me in tears. Brilliant! Just subbed. Truer words have not been said, regarding this sample of junk from a Chinese watch parts bin.
I remember a time when brand loyalty was a real thing to be proud of. A time when almost everything was built for performance and reliability. Today greed has taken over the business model and things are designed and built to fail after a certain amount of time and the scam called, supply and demand has become dominant in everything. It has become a sad and cutthroat world we live in. My 40-year-old furnace and central air conditioner, both of which has never broken down and still work like new, is proof of this. Great video showing the new business world of scams and cheap products produced only to extract the maximum amount of money from people.
HI ben ! honestly my dad bought recently the orient sk diver and hes really happy with it. he told me when he came in my age to our country this exact watch was in magazines and his buddies had it but he at that time coudnt buy one. 30 years later he bought it and spite his small wrist he loves that watch but wears it once in while just to remember old times. his daily is a watch i bought him for christmas seiko 5 SNKL43K1. Great video btw love ur channel !
Excellent & Honest video , I did not agree on your Miyota movement is bad content , but i know miyota movt. watches must sell cheap & it feels sad that many watches with sunon movement (China) retail for $ 100 /- under good brand names , all Miyota movt. watches (Fossil) are sold for like $ 150 - 300 /- whereas the movt. cost like $ 20 - 30 /- at most.
Great video, very informative too. It's a good idea to look around the internet before stumping up the cash. If I'm buying anything other than a Casio I usually end up on AliExpress buying Steeldive, STARKING, Skmei etc amazing value for the money and well made too👍
I ended up buying that same Braun. Fits fine on my medium-size wrist. It was on special price on their website ($90 I think?). When it arrived, I found out why. The second hand was hitting the marks unlike the one you showed, but the case back was marred! Someone used unprotected metal pliers to unscrew the back to replace the battery that apparently must have died while sitting in inventory like several reviews on Amazon mentioned. They used one set of holes to open, and a separate set of holes to close. They also slipped, because there's a spot on the back that was clearly rubbed/scuffed down after a scratch. I do wear it because you can't see the blemishes, but if it had been a gift it would have been an embarrassment.
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"Affiliates are no longer permitted to use Amazon web pages in their videos"
TRANSLATION Amazon doesn't want people to know they happily allow dubious companies to promote and sell their products through their website.
Amazon is like Disney. They preach about equality and human rights YET do business with China and other countries who are the VERY SAME countries who have spent over 50 years abusing and oppressing their people.
The West is a hypocrite. If people KNEW what conditions workers from these countries work in and how their governments treat them? People would be ashamed buying their products.
Loreti should be written ''Loretti'' lol. Those chinese scammers are amazing
Could you review titan?
Do you have an Invicta watch review?
Which watch would you recommend for casual wear? Timberland, Boss or Diesel?
I am so tired of the completely bought out fake reviewers with their crappy acting talking about how good these trash products are. I am glad Ben is out here for us. Thank you Ben.
Alpha M talking about MVMT/Vincero as if they are the best watches and how you don't need a Rolex because it's overpriced....and then wears his Rolex in all other videos where MVMT/Vincero aren't sponsors :D
That’s because he is worth millions now and will advertise for any company that pays his fees. It’s sad that he was not happen making a million a year he sold out for the extra million. He should of built his brand and not sold out to cheap brands that just want to advertise to his viewers. I think he still makes good videos I just would stay away from any product he is advertising
Truly glad to see Spaghetti Scametti did not make this list. I'm guessing the dislikes are from enraged middlemen.
No it’s the children of the middlemen as the middlemen are killed for maximum profits.
@@good-tn9sr lmao
I WANNA SCAMETTI - WAAAAAAAAAH!!!!
Scam-Etti Spaghetti!
thats hilarious the $20 Aliexpress watch came with the Daniel wellington branding on it
I know right! I knew straight away it would make for a quality video 😂
@@BensWatchClub I am from Pakistan.I want to buy a new watch..Please suugest me a reasonable watch brand to buy..What's your idea about Daniel wellington? ?
@@aliaslam2729 go for a seiko, tissot, orient, bulova or Hamilton
@@supremechief12 What's your idea about Junghans Max Bill automatic watch??Is it durable and long lasting watch?
@@aliaslam2729 I never had one, but a lot of people swear by it and it's a respectable brand. I would choose it over daniel wellington any day
This video could be renamed "What your uncle might buy you when he finds out you collect watches".
This comment is gold 😂
True
At least anything from person we love is very valuable
OMG sad but true.
Just like your Grandma buying you a Sunny XLoc360 Pro console from a daytime TV shopping channel !
there are uncles and then there are uncles 🤣🤣 the watch I gave my nephew costs more than the the four I currently own
Damn man, MVMT watches were so bad you lost you hair. IDK what to say .
BTW why don't you grow your hair you handsome mug.
Ben now looks like James MacAvoy from Split.
I had a colleague wrist flash his watch. I was like "dude, is that a Vincero?" and he totally missed the diss and was all like "why yes it is..."
They get on my absolute fucking nerves. I can't stop seeing ads for them. They won't go away.
LOL! You taking a MVMT Dump is GLORIOUS! Should be a gif right there. 2:24
I'm acctually amazed it was still ticking in the water
I can smell it
lol bowel mvmt
@@ssrc-Pb12 Excellent !
@@ssrc-Pb12 Nice one!
Years ago when I was still new to the “style rabbit hole” I had bought a watch from The Fifth after seeing a video from RMRS the watch looked...fine but the original strap was itchy and unwearable. It wasn’t until much later I came across your channel exposing MVMT. That level of honesty really hooked me especially after you exposed The Fifth and Vincero (a brand I had really been interested in thanks to those bigger style channels). I definitely felt betrayed by Antonio and those other bigger channels to the point I stopped watching them entirely. I still have The Fifth watch mainly as a reminder that most “guru” types are usually just after their own interests. Without the OG Ben Arthur channel I’d probably have sunk a few hundred into a vincero watch and a pair of fancy dress shoes that don’t fit right.
Glad to help out 👍
@@BensWatchClub im not so much into the style thing anymore after learning the basic rules. But i really enjoy your videos theyve helped me learn that just because something is “cheap” it doesnt have to be poor quality.
Same story as me! I loved watching Antonio but can't get past these guys advertising such crap products knowingly.
@@Christian-ed5uc honestly its beyond insidious to me, itd be like a carpenter telling me to buy mahogany furniture and he knows its actually made of plywood. Their violating the trust of their viewers for profit.
Make me wonder if Antonio's style advice is as good as his sponsorship judgement. His perfume taste definitely isn't as good as he wants to make it seem, considering it parrots opinions of other mainstream fragrance RUclipsrs.
Pro tip: you want good fragrance advice? Gents Scents and Smelling Good Fragrance.
Everyone at work is like "Matt you like watches, what do you think of Vinc-"
"NOPE"
You are sure they didn't formed a conspiracy to haunt you with that question over and over again? 🙃
mate for me its the same, "I wanna buy a watch is Hugo Boss good or Diesel?" and im like dont speak to me.
@@rob5343 I usually just point them in the direction of a brand that actually delivers quality and looks similar to what they want. Ben's recommendations really help.
@@allegedkurd i cannot be asked anymore to explain why certina or hamilton is better than hugo boss or diesel to non watch people.
@@rob5343 The diesel GPS watch 🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
The fact that Ben checked out these watches for us so that we don't have to truly is a commemorable thing !
My dude Ben keeping people honest. I definitely think you need a trophy for the worst watch brands.
In the shape of a hammer?
Daniel Wellington's quality control is non-existent. The 'D' on their dials are the wrong way around. Disgraceful!
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Love how you show the faces of those influencers who sold their souls, they just look so damn smug don't they?
They likely just don't know any better and have never worn an actual good watch. For them a MVMT might possibly be the most luxourious watch ever.
Kinda like how people who've only driven Toyotas sit inside a Tesla for the first time and think that the Tesla is luxury.
@@AkunPulivari You could not be more wrong....regardless of how annoying 'those RUclipsrs' are, you cannot be stupid to become a successful Influencer. They know exactly what they are selling to their viewers, it's simply shameless. They might not be into watches, but you can bet if they were, it would be straight for the Rolex's (not saying Rolex's are bad) but let's be honest - anyone who cares about how they are perceived by others and want to give off that look of success would just gravitate toward Rolex, they don't need to do the research it takes that normally watch enthusiasts would...
@@AkunPulivari alpha m, real men real style, teaching men’s fashion, and alex costa all promote MVMT, vincero, and so on religiously. However, they have Rolex, hublot, omega, and other luxury brands. They get these sponsorships from these watch companies and only wear their expensive watches. You can spot the ad coming miles away in every Alpha M video when he isn’t wearing his rose gold Rolex gmt or rose gold yacht master.
@@huckinator
Ok, I wasn't aware of these channels. The only one I recognized was Jacksfilms, who is a comedian and doesn't seem go intentionally mislead with these MVMT sponsorships.
Their nothing but powder puffs and whiny snowflakes!!
For what it's worth my wife bought me a Fossil Chronograph (different model from the one in the video) and it's been solid. Definitely still a fashion watch but it hits its markers and has functioning pushers and working crown. Also thought you might find it interesting that Carrnegie watches is going out of business and I got an add for their closeout sale. The watch you reviewed is on sale for $30 and you spoke fairly highly of the watch in the video when it was priced around $150. Thought that was something followers of this channel might be interested in knowing! Glad I found this channel a year or so ago love the content!
I agree, a trophy next time. Remember to sell the concept of an exclusive trophy, made by the world's most famous craftsmen, out of high end materials found in trophies of much higher price, then buy a job lot from AliExpress.
Cutting out the trophy middlemen, of course...
@@KarlAdamsAudio Precisely!!!
Daniel wellington watches trigger the shit out of me every time, someone I know gets one I’m like aw shit you fell for it...
You should really do a full length video about MVMT's marketing! That'd be a lot of fun to watch.
The worst watch I ever saw was at Target, as part of their otherwise fine Goodfellow clothing line. It was a quartz monstrosity with zero branding on the dial, a fixed fake rotating bezel, and "pushers" that were molded into the case body of the watch. The funny thing is they were also selling perfectly acceptable Timex watches right next to them.
Had the same experience. I like Target's clothing line a lot because I usually have to buy dolls but they run long. I was excited when I saw they had a watch section only to be disappointed. I work with students and one was wearing one of those watches the other day and wanted to have a intervention lol
Hahaha that’s Target for ya. Sometimes I consider buying one of those watches and just harvesting the strap.
Ohhhh stop teasing me, I'm in the UK and simply don't have access to these Crime pieces, they sound soo good!!
Yes those sound bad, but how much are they asking for them? If they're like $6 then I'm fine with it. The brands Ben talks about here are another matter though.
Great video Ben. Hugely entertaining, I laughed out loud a number of times. Unbelievable what some watch companies get up to. Thankfully we’ve got YT’ers like yourself, Gary (I Like Watches), Dan (Watch me with watches), and of course Jody (JOMW) to set us straight.
That No Label thing is genius, I can't even be mad at that.
Pointing out the rubbish watches is very important! Excellent video. I do love Orient, have a fantastic Mako XL Diver, but that one you showed, complete faux pas! I think someone was smoking the wacky tobaccy when they designed that dial!
As usual on your channel, this video is very well-made: good script, good photography, good audio, good editing. Just very well-done all around. Still, even by your high standards, the muted scream at 0:37 stands out. A small masterpiece.
Wilhelm at work ;)
I do have the Pathfinder from Fossil (SOLAR) so far no complaints. I had many watches like OMEGA, BREITLING IWC, MAURICE LACROIX, ROLEX, TISSOT, SEIKO, CITIZEN CASIO,JUNGHANS, ORIENTetc..Most I gave away to my Family because if you don't use them they can break. Now I'm 75 years old and have bought a watch that I like the look/design and solar driven similar to ECO DRIVE which is convenient. Don't need a watch that lasts for a long time at my age it is irrelevant!
It seems as if unsponsored reviews (or even genuine sentiments) are rare these days. Your candor stands out from a multitude of other review videos. It is impressive. Thanks!
Sorry you bought a rubish Fossil watch. My fossil is over 10 years old, bought on ebay for a fiver as the crystal was smashed, but on receipt I was blown away. Its a chrono, has a decent quartz movement, solid links as well as solid end links and a milled clasp. On seeing how beatiful it was i cleaned it up and bought a saphire crystal for it. Some manufacturers may originally bring out good watches and then cash in on their label, and some do it the other way round, who knows as I agreed with your review of that particular watch in any event. I love watches, but like most people I cant afford a 5k premium for a trumped up stainless steel brand. However i do appreciate good design and good value spec and the more people are made aware of the latter the better as most viewers are probably in my position or if not they're just kidding themselves . All the best buddy.
I think what you do for the watch community is amazing. Keep up the good work.
10:00 honestly impressed with that marketing, they found a way to sell the flaws of dropshipping
I love it when companies get triggered by bad reviews, it makes leaving a bad review more satisfying
A good list of don'ts. I'll save my money and wait for the future Spaghetti Scametti "Tricolore" series: "Pesto" (green dial), "Quattro formaggi" (white dial), "Bolognese" (red dial).
Having worked for FOSSIL watches, I can tell you without a doubt that was an outlet watch- which are terrible 😳.
An authentic FOSSIL is much nicer in quality and movement.
The leather is real and ages well, and the movement is a lot better.
Another shot at them, is alll I’m saying haha
I have 2 Fossil watches I bought a few years ago and still really happy with both of them. One has a leather strap and it has indeed worn in very nicely.
Even if this video is old now, I want to congratulate you for dealing with those excuses of watches on order to warn us about which companies we have to stay from. That No Label company made me pissed the most, as it's unacceptable that they try to sell no logo watches from Aliexpress by doubling their original prices.
Hello Ben I'm very new to the Watch scene. And I appreciate the honest opinions alot because the more I've learned about quality from you and sources online ive had a great expereince now. Thank you, Newly found watch lover
Another nice video Ben. Its great when you big up good value watches, and also when you point out rip offs with terrible quality. I know the disappointment when you get something and quickly realise "this is rubbish".
Excellent work Ben. Keep it up young man. Your reviews are some of the most refreshing and honest of any out there.
I am usually a big fan of Orient, but the SK "diver" made me wonder if they had been bought out by some awful company that wanted to destroy their brand. Cheap and Gaudy is the perfect description. Re: Vincero, the herpes of watch ads, it took me ages to stop the barrage of ads and videos trying to sell me one of their overpriced watches. I am afraid to say the word Vincero out loud in front of my phone, for fear of unleashing another assault of Vincero ads.
Orient does sometimes do some wierd stuff.... that watch is def a perfect example of that
Thank you for making this video, Ben.
I was about to purchase a Vincero, after watching a few reviews from some other "influencers". Glad you call out scammers like this.
So in my limited research, I came upon the 96B131 from Bulova. What are your thoughts on these? I like the look of it, and the price is also within my range. If you can recommend a couple of alternatives would be much appreciated as well.
Thank you for all your hard work.
I want to see you do a collab with a guy called Mike Winnet... I reckon you'd be a huge fan if you saw his content! Awesome vid as usual Ben 😁
I'm subscribed to Mike actually! He does some great work over there! Glad you enjoyed it Luke
"Use as a trebuchet." Love it!
Holy shit I wasnt ready for that feces bit HAHAHAHA
4:21
"...rendering it unwearable for anyone with a BMI under 5000."
LMFAO!
That line slayed me as well.
This was supremely entertaining. Thank you!
Nice knowing you Vincero......RIP
that was very enjoyable 18 mins.
Watches aren't needs for very many people. They have very little utility in today's world. The way I see it, a watch is a fashion accessory or an investment piece. It can be both. If you don't have the money, or don't want to spend the money to buy an investment-level watch, then holding value isn't part of the equation. At that point just buy whatever watch you like best as a fashion accessory, and can easily afford. I don't see a middle ground when it comes to watches in today's world. It's either an investment or a fashion piece.
I had to learn the hard way after buying the same Fossil watch that's on this list (the strap tore after about a year and the replacement costed almost as much as the watch itself). I'm now trying to shed light on the whole cheaply made 'fashion' watches on my channel, as well as suggesting better alternatives! I've honestly learned so much from you, mate!
the orient sk diver looks sick imo to be honest, a bit tacky but I thought the inside crystal bezel was sick, if only it was a real diving watch...
I've been watching you (ahem - sorry) for a short while but a minute or two into this video I decided to subscribe: based on your honesty and the fact your're prepared to call out the bull****ers on RUclips, the so-called 'influencers' peddling very poor quality. I salute you and long my integrity and honesty prevail. x
Tony
This is great content once again. I really enjoy Ben's videos.
Can we go ahead and just fix the internet as Ben taking a dump and out comes a MVMT has broken it, if only the internet ran an awards ceremony
You saved me from mvmt, I know nothing of watches, I have been using only 1 one watch in my life the f91w, after 12 years of use it finally died so I was looking for a watch to use every day so I saw the iron mvmt automatic watch for 269 pounds, thank God I saw your warning, I ended up buying the DW5600 and saved 212 pounds, super happy with my indestructible watch 👌
Your channel is so good in meta wrist watch videos, fantastic content. IMHO another key to identify these channels is that suddenly they all review the same watch..
ben vs. alpha m round 2? cant wait
Totally agree with you Ben. These are junk watches. You can get better value watches for less to than these overpriced overrated junk watches. Seiko is a good value and even vintage watches can get you a good brand for the price of an mvmt. Ben keep making videos exposing the garbage watches to help people understand products before purchasing. Keep up the good work.
That Sternglass is beautiful, sad Ben's reasoning is spot on
Well done my friend. There's some right rubbish out there. Thanks for sharing. Greetings from rain soaked Sheffield.😀😺
I like how you create your own B-reel. Very nicely done, sir.
Thank you very much!
The only bad thing about the Orient was it's water resistance. You made it sound like it was the ugliest watch ever made and that it was made of bad parts or something. The watch looks just fine.
I have recently started watching your videos but now I have become much more cautious about what to look for when you are buying a watch
Great stuff Ben. The crap watches out there need to be exposed.
Thanks for all the info gathering and data concentration you do for us.
Love the vid, but disagree on the Orient SK Diver. It is PERFECT 70s kitsch! No one buying that watch (back in the day) took it anywhere near actual water unless they were going to the casino pool. I suspect Orient know their clientele here. It is complete cheese, but the good kind.
I have a question for Ben, what are your thoughts on homage watches, are they worth it. Best homage watche brands so that I can look at them.
Great video btw.
Best affordable homage watch brand is probably Invicta, even though it gets a lot of hate.
Hi Rohan. Anything with a Seiko NH35 or NH36 movement. Anything with an automatic Miyota movement mainly. I have a few. Steeldive is massive bang for your buck and is truly awesome. Try Addiesdive and Pagani Design. Watch other reviewers. Invicta get mixed reviews. I have a Corgeut James Bond watch Omega copy and a Pagani Design James Bond Omega copy. They are excellent. There are literally hundreds of submariner homages out there with many just rubbish. If you want to try a real cheapie you can get a Paulareis (daft name) homage Omega made of coated alloy with a Chinese automatic movement for under 20 quid from Ali Express. I've got about three of these including the Apollo 11 moon watch. They're bang on in terms of calibration. My Benyar "Rolex" Explorer was just over priced junk. Advertised as 316L stainless steel, it turned out to be coated alloy and couldn't keep time. Don't rule out watches with thr Chinese movements in them either. There's a lot of value if you know what to look for. Thet come with no real customer service or guarantees from AliExpress though. They could last 6 weeks, 6 months or 6 years and over. Servicing might be a future problem. Go for a Seiko or a Miyota movement and don't rule out the Chinese seagull movement. For up to 60 quid for a Steeldive you can get a really excellent quality watch. I have the Captain Willard. 👍
@@markgrieves1307 damn man, thanks. Stay safe.
Great video, but you could have given a warning at 2:23! That's an image I'll never be able to unsee!
Glad to see a Lorus in the opening clip of the video. I myself have one that belonged to my grandfather, a V515-8A00 "Gent's wristwatch, gold-tone, quarts." which unfortunately wasn't operating. A quick trip to the watch hospital and it's thankfully had a movement made for it by Seiko that should last it! It is immaculate, not a single scratch and the coloring is still as if it's fresh from the store.
Recently obtained a casio Oceanus OCW S100. I think you’d be a big fan Ben. You should get your hands on one!
Ben, it's official, I'm starting a petition to get you to grow yr hair back to it's former glory.....
8:47 no way they just cut the second hand off and kept the thing where the hand is mounted in the middle ticking lmao
Loving my second hand £50 cadisen after I saw you review the movement arc automatic. My first mechanical watch! Rotor is a bit noisy but the miyota movement is pretty accurate.
Comparing a Daniel (David?) Wellington to a Junkers must hurt a lot !
Very good channel, Always love my Yemas, Junkers and even Spinnakers (I know, but for the price the 5075 is nice)
Very good! More of those please!
There is something off about that Fossil. This may sound weird, but maybe it was a counterfeited... Or maybe Fossils are just so hit or miss... I have a few of them, quite satisfied. Only buy from physical stores. They appear to be of a relatively good quality with little to no defects. Leather bands are good and comfy, none have fake or unused functions. Also, they have great instore customer support. Watches are often discounted, so I get nice pieces $40-$100 range. Cool hybrid offerings.
4:40 “I felt a bit shafted” we’ve all felt like that watch related or not haha great video as always!!
Vincero had an ad before you can click past it on youtube a couple of weeks/months ago about unboxing. It was something like:
"First impression wow, it got marble in the back, cool design and the strap is a little stiff but that just means it will last a long time"
I don’t trust any watch reviewer who isn’t a fan of Casio and doesn’t recommend or own one of the plethora of $10, $20, $30 watches Casio makes that give you more bang for your buck. All the review channels I subscribe and watch have at least a handful of videos featuring Casio.
Funny enough is that the first watch that got me into watches was a vincero which I bought and was so disappointed that I had to do some research afterwards and buy something else instead.. rocking Casio sieko and citizens ever since
The most honest reviewer to date! Keep it up, young man! :D
Brutally honest, might I add! 😁
I found this video really interesting! It blows my mind how these companies will try and sell these crap watches and I find it deeply shameful but unsurprising that these 'Influencers' have no principles about promoting naff watch brands or watches to their audience.
Suggest me a casio wach which is suitable in every dress and any occasion like party and casual. And budget friendly
Thanks for this video which confirm my opinion and feeling for several brands
After seeing Nyjah Huston (one of my favourite Skaters) in the MVMT video I did a quick google and got really disappointed. He seriously had a Limited Edition Signature Watch with them that sold for 180€. Obviously the specs are as garbage as you'd expect. What's super ridiculous, Nyjah is known for being pretty adventures, aside from skating he's driving MotoCross, often goes hiking and whatnot. The first block on the page of the watch actually says it has 10ATM, which would be at least something, but when you scroll down and read the specs it says only 5ATM.
To subscribe after viewing just one video is very unlikely, but this time I did it. Keep up the great work
Top job Ben. Influencers allegedly appear to influence the lazy bunch that can't be bothered to research or possibly those fashion followers who just have to get what top influencer 'John/Jane Doe' described as a solution to the savior of the human race followed by some cute animals in a review video. All push without any apparent accountability. Keep up the great work Ben. All good information for anyone with a positive IQ.
The BMI of 5000 comment had me in tears. Brilliant! Just subbed. Truer words have not been said, regarding this sample of junk from a Chinese watch parts bin.
I remember a time when brand loyalty was a real thing to be proud of. A time when almost everything was built for performance and reliability. Today greed has taken over the business model and things are designed and built to fail after a certain amount of time and the scam called, supply and demand has become dominant in everything. It has become a sad and cutthroat world we live in. My 40-year-old furnace and central air conditioner, both of which has never broken down and still work like new, is proof of this. Great video showing the new business world of scams and cheap products produced only to extract the maximum amount of money from people.
It's sad that this channel is so under-subscribed. More people need to watch this channel before buying watches.
HI ben ! honestly my dad bought recently the orient sk diver and hes really happy with it. he told me when he came in my age to our country this exact watch was in magazines and his buddies had it but he at that time coudnt buy one. 30 years later he bought it and spite his small wrist he loves that watch but wears it once in while just to remember old times. his daily is a watch i bought him for christmas seiko 5 SNKL43K1. Great video btw love ur channel !
Hi Ben, thanks so much for your honest review. Could you please share your thoughts on Larsson & Jennings watches. thanks & take care!
Solid video. Truthfully presented without being pompous. Some of these watches are actually attractive but priced to gouge, like the Camden.
Please do a top 10 or even top 5 of the best Micro Brands ?
Keep up the great work, Peace out.
For watching all your videos while packing presents, I even deactivated the Adblocker. Great videos. Kuss auf die Nuss from Germany. - T
Excellent & Honest video , I did not agree on your Miyota movement is bad content , but i know miyota movt. watches must sell cheap & it feels sad that many watches with sunon movement (China) retail for $ 100 /- under good brand names , all Miyota movt. watches (Fossil) are sold for like $ 150 - 300 /- whereas the movt. cost like $ 20 - 30 /- at most.
I just unsubscribed to alpha m after seeing this video. Thanks Ben.
🙄 I actually quite like the looks of that Orient...but I am old enough to remember the 70s.
That Braun... 🤣
Cheers Ben 👍🏻👍🏻
I do like the weird case on the Orient
If you want a basic analog dial watch just get a Casio MQ-24. Classier and better made than any of this rubbish.
Absolutely brilliant Ben...well done mate 👏👏👏
Great video man. What do you think about the quality of Skagen and Sturhling watches?
Some of the watch brands in my mind were mentioned in this video.. nice video
Great video, very informative too. It's a good idea to look around the internet before stumping up the cash. If I'm buying anything other than a Casio I usually end up on AliExpress buying Steeldive, STARKING, Skmei etc amazing value for the money and well made too👍
I ended up buying that same Braun. Fits fine on my medium-size wrist. It was on special price on their website ($90 I think?). When it arrived, I found out why. The second hand was hitting the marks unlike the one you showed, but the case back was marred! Someone used unprotected metal pliers to unscrew the back to replace the battery that apparently must have died while sitting in inventory like several reviews on Amazon mentioned. They used one set of holes to open, and a separate set of holes to close. They also slipped, because there's a spot on the back that was clearly rubbed/scuffed down after a scratch.
I do wear it because you can't see the blemishes, but if it had been a gift it would have been an embarrassment.