Irvine, Quistis, Zell, Selfie Character Analysis | Final Fantasy 8 lore
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- Опубликовано: 19 мар 2015
- Excerpt from my Game Discourses piece, looking more thoroughly at the characters of Quistis Trepe, Irivine Kinneas, Selphie Tilmitt and Zell Dincht. Full game discussion here: • Final Fantasy VIII Rev...
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I felt Quistis, who is essentially the wizard (knowledge holder) in this game did not have enough input later on. She could have been better situated in elaborating the plan with Dr. Odine and Laguna. She advises Squall regarding Rinoa but without this input she'd be a pretty much forgotten character. Selphie by contrast is the white/luck mage and Rinoa the Sorceress. These three kinds of magic user form an interesting continuum. Selphie does try hard, she even puts in 100% in extra-curricular and her magelike origins at Trabia would also cause an emotional baggage for her very skills. The 'mage' comes from pure dedication to their craft - no matter how clumsy; and when she gets her limit right she's unstoppable. She has a hard time remembering the rituals for casting powerful magic consistently. Quistis is smart, like a wizard, she knows a lot and has to work for discovering her new skills through the game. Rinoa doesn't have to work for her magic, like Edea, she's an 'innate' sorceress rather than an apprentice (Selphie) or an adept (Quistis). In D&D from which FF derives, the definition of mage, wizard and sorcerer is all very interesting. I think this game combines the method for learning the skills (especially Quistis having to continue her studies) and the plot are consistent with the RPG canon. FF8 is also classical for also emphasising magic as a feminine pursuit.
@RedCoat dude, I just discovered something. Today, I was playing FF8:Remastered beginning of Disc 2 - dream sequence.
Laguna is played by Squall.
Kiros is played by Irvine.
For the most part, Squall thinks this is a recurring dream. Irvine, however, is experiencing this for the first time. Zell and Sephie experience the dream sequence the same as Squall. Quistis, knows about the recurring dream judging from how Squall, Zell and Selphie's reaction after the 2nd dream. Irvine, however, is his first time experiencing the dream sequence. Because it's his first time dreaming it and no one told him afterwards that this is a recurring dream in the party, he did not really need to tell the party about it and experience it as just 'another' dream.
Now here is the kicker:
Irvine plays Kiros. And Irvine being a 'lady's man.' Effectively, made Squall into existence. What do I mean?
Laguna, Kiros and Ward. During the first dream sequence hinted that there's 'buzzing' in their head. (referring to the Squall, Zell, Selphie's thoughts, inner dialogue). The buzzing noise was also mention in the 2nd dream sequence. On the Windhill dream sequence, Laguna and Kiros finally accepted this 'buzzing' noise as 'faeries.'
Now normally, Kiros is the level headed in the group. However, his 'something's tell me to stay' line during the eavesdropping scene suggest that Irvine, being a lady's man that he is, convinced Kiros to eavesdrop and effective makes Laguna hears what Raine has to say about him. This pushed Laguna and Raine's relationship closer.
This is also a subtle hint that Ellone is able to change the past not through actions but 'influence.'
What do you think?
Cool. I like it, seems like something Irvine would do lol :)
That's a good theory. Imagine Irvine bringing squall into existence. Almost makes up for him hitting on Squalls girl all the time.
Selphie always struck me as the person who wanted to make others feel better about themselves, the kind of figure who hated to see other people down or feeling ostracized, while knowing she was internally struggling with her own battles but placed precedent in seeing other people through their battles often at the expense of her own well being and happiness.
A nice observation, I hadn't really considered her from that perspective, but the whole sidequest about putting on a music show for Squall totally aligns with that.
@6:14 *If Rinoa is in the party ;) It's fun to see how differently each character reacts to Zell' s room during the occupation.
This was beautiful to listen to. Thank you for this analysis. You perfectly encapsulated everything I love about this game.
I loved all of your analyses. And your voice is perfect. Prevents the info from sounding monotone and bland despite the simple presentation in the video
Thanks Steven, appreciate it!
Dude thank you for making these videos. The market for this kind of thing is so niche, but the substance and style of your presentation is top quality. This is a real treat for those of us that enjoyed these games.
I think they could of done more with quistis. Only complaint I have really.
Yeah, they allude to her feelings for Squall and she takes a step back from being an instructor - which could have given her a character-arc where she builds her confidence back up (which I guess she does in a discreet way); but definitely could have done more :)
Love this. I think selphie tries to put on a happy exterior cause she doesnt want people to see her sad. Most think being saddness is weakness so it could be why she tries so hard.
Thanks. And yes I see your point that many equate sadness to weakness so it makes sense shed try to conceal it :)
@@AlleywayJack wish they had more background info on the in the game. Would like to see the time in between the orphanage and they start of the game :-)
I always thought Quistis and Zell were siblings and Irvine and Selphie were siblings because of the hair color lol
Zell is cool buddy, I thought Quistis would be important to the story because she is a teacher at Balamb garden. Selphie would girl who gives everyone a different perspective on war(I thought she would be pacifist or trauma medic) also she's from another garden. Irvine started off a cool sharp shooter and ladies man buts its all facaded and turns out he's super insecure and he loves Selphie(I thought he try to go after Rinoa and try to force Squall to confess his love or make keep his distance. Also I wish they did more with love triangle with squall, rinoa and seifer)
I agree the whole Rinoa/Seifer thing could have done more. She mentions it after Seifers ‘execution’ but they could have used it a lot more… either to make Squall confront his feelings, or increase the intensity of his feud with Seifer.
Your voice is sweet and relaxing
Thank you, what a lovely thing to say :)
Zell, Quistis, Selphie, Irvine, Squall, and Seifer are unique in some way. Rinoa is more of the outsider (like FFX's Tidus), attempting to fit into the group, and with the protagonist Squall (FFX's Yuna) heart.
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This guys always get flask, but game only got 1 year of development and 60-70% of the story got implemented. So yeah.