This was SO MUCH FUN!!! Drift or not LOL Also big ups to Dylan for the killer thumbnail shot from that chase car. You should follow him on instagram @thedylanshaffer instagram.com/thedylanshaffer?
It would be a fun feature for gravel or snow. It seems like for pavement it required pushing it much harder to get it loose than you have to with a rear drive car. It would be hard to find a good place to safely play with that on pavement - I guess a big parking lot.
It's a little tougher due to it also still having AWD engaged you really gotta send an AWD car to get the sameish outcome of a rwd car with less effort
So there are a few people near me who own these and they've found places to play...not safely. It's everywhere, they're just power sliding around every corner and I truly suspect a lawsuit is in VW's future, again. I've seen people sue for less, I think.
Drift mode is undoubtedly a gimmick but a fun one! It's not really accurate to say that this or other clutch-based AWD systems can send up to 50% power to the rear wheels. Percentage torque splits make sense when you are describing a standard open differential (50:50) or something like one of the later (R)S model Quattros with a default 40:60 split and a 4:1 torque biasing ratio (80:20 to 20:80), but they are confusing when talking about a typical clutch-based AWD system. I like to think of it as if they are a part-time system that can vary from off to fully locked. When the clutch is disengaged, no torque goes to the rear (or possibly a small amount due to clutch drag or preload). When the clutch is fully engaged, up the maximum torque capacity of the clutch can be sent to the rear axle. In the case of the Mk8 Golf R, Magna claims up to 3500 NM (1750 NM per side) for the Performax Rear Drive module. That's more than the transmission output at max engine torque in first gear, so theoretically all of the power could be sent to the rear axle. In driving situations where the clutch is fully engaged and neither axle is struggling for traction, the split will indeed be 50:50. But if the front axle approaches the limit of grip, more power will be transferred through the rear axle, pushing the car forward and maintaining traction at the front. In these situations, quite possible under heavy weight transfer, more than 50% of the power is being delivered through the rear wheels.
Bmw clutch based AWD can send it all to the rear. This is what I call a drift mode. VW must go back to basics. RWD biased AWD platforms with disconnectable front axle.
@@timetravellergec2043 It is just a gimmick based on the fact that it has a new torque vectoring differential. If you want RWD biased car get a BMW, Golfs and other VAGS simply should not be RWD biased since this changes the DNA of the cars entirely. Front wheel drive cars / front biased AWD cars are far easier to explore the limits of grip with, this makes them easier to drive fast for the majority of people due to understeer being more predictable than oversteer, BMW's are certainly targeted more towards driving enthusiasts (amongst luxuries) thus anyone who's owned/driven a BMW will tell you it's a hell of a lot more lethal on the limit than a FWD biased car. Each have their own target market and VW are doing it right with the Golf.
As an mk7 golf r owner i have to say the Focus rs is way easier to drift , donuts , and way overenginiered fro street use, while the golf r is still a drag race vehicle and confort however i love the dsg and its engine capabilities. For sure i will trade in for the mk8 But golf r for drift nahhhhh, i don't see myself drifting n a golf r. Maybe focus rs if you want to drift.
The GR yaris has a clutch based AWD system and it can send more power to the rear than the front under normal conditions. The secret is slightly higher gearing on the rear diff, which means that a full lock would be able to make the front tires slide, in which case they would brake the car if it ever did fully lock. But that doesn't mean anything for drifting obviously.
I think the trade off is; it’s not truly a great “drift car” obviously, but this will be a riot in snow with a slicker road surface (and you can then throw it back in Comfort when need to return to driving like a fully-fledged adult). Great video/content ✌🏻
Thanks for the vid. I was suprised to see it drifting and its potential, it could only do so much with a driver that has never done this before. I must admit, I was disapointed to see that you didnt let the pro have a crack. Clearly it would of been a very different result.
@@HumbleMechanic you know what, I didnt even think of it like that. We sometimes forget, people that make RUclips vids are real ppl, and use their own money to buy their cars.
Hey Charles, would love to see a comparison in the AWD systems between the GR Corolla and the Golf R. Curious how Toyota gets up to the 30/70 Front/rear torque split
The answer is rather simple. The rear diff has slightly longer gearing than the front one, so in a full lock scenario the front wheels would be slower than the rear ones, which means that all the forward torque goes through the rear wheels. The car doesn't actually do that, but it can do 70/30 with it.
I was there for this event, and when I passed the R in the show portion I wondered if they would try it with the drift mode on the track. Was honestly really fun to watch, and it did better than expected.
If you see Chris Harris review of the MK7 Golf R from several years back, he managed to get it sideways through a corner with a bone stock car. Granted it required a lot of speed with a Scandinavian flick, but it could be done. That is not ideal, but with some suspension modifications and proper alignment, you can have a LOT of sideways fun with an MK7. I think the MK8 new rear diff is an improvement, but it seems a relatively minor one. It might be a lot more effective with similar suspension modifications. I run -2.5 degrees of camber in front, -2 in back, slight toe out front a back, and stiffer springs, bushings... It is extremely balanced, gentle turn in results in nice four wheel drift, but a sharp turn in while lifting will make the rear easily come around but in a very controlled manner. It is not the fast way, but makes for easy adjustments when needed and can be a lot of fun. It seems the MK8 still needs some work for track use, the new diff helps but you don't need it to have a fun tail out track car.
Im curious how this would be on the DSG. Maybe someone with a DSG can let you take it out to see the difference. Love the showing of the data behind it. Hope to get my golf r soon.
6:37 you can, just requires wet weather, a heavy right foot and some commitment, more of a power slide but still so fun to feel the power start pushing from the back.
I don’t really see this as a drift mode, but a type of traction control when on a race track. It helps keep power on the corner while having both hands on the wheel.
The nk8 is a terrible car to live with due to the infotainment system controlling so much. You will regret it, most end uo back at the dealers fixing it qhe the system packs up and the car is rendered immobile. Poorly thought out car.
Hi Charles! Thanks so much for getting out and showing us what the mk8 can really do!!! It was an awesome vid! I’ve owned both the mk6 & mk7 golf r previously and am currently in a 2022 g70 (Genesis). I have a request please. Would you consider going to your local Genesis dealer and take out their 3.3l g70 awd for a good test drive. And if you would, put in in sport + mode and then deactivate stability control. I’d like your unbiased opinion and comparison of both vehicles please! There are no mk8 golf r available in my city for test drives or I’d do it myself. Lol
cool car: check drift mode: check giggle factor: check (even though it was in honda...) fun factor : achieved summary?? hoonage factor 5 applied. good job, sir, good job. now, is this for everyone?? of course not. will *i* ever get an mk anything?? prolly not. (i have too many broken toys as it is) but i do enjoy your content and as a fellow euro car enthusiast, i say to please keep this content coming.
Looks like the safety nanny was trying to fight you all the way. Fun day of burning the tire off your R. On snow or gravel that would be a real hoot. Keep these fun videos coming Charles.
interesting, the car turns traction go rol off when i put mine in drift mode… but maybe it was in ESC sport and not ESC off, im not sure. but for me it automatically turned off traction control to an extent where i could easily throw it sideways.
For drifting VWs, you should check in with The Drift Master, Tanner Foust. I think he is still a spokesman for VW. If you don't know Tanner, he was/is (?) a rally car and stunt driver. He was also the head driver for VW in the now-defunct GRC. Actually, it was the Beetles that killed the GRC. They won everything for three years in a row. Then GRC decided that everyone would have to run identical Fords. And that was the end.
If your buying parts 85% of Quattro and 4motion are identical just completely disengaging rear when not needed is primary difference both can bias torque equally well...if differently by design Audi claims 70% torque (of total)can be delivered to a single rear wheel on demand with 60% pre bias towards rear so vw should be able to deliver 60% of total torque to outside rear wheel
Oh shit, it's literally danger Dan. . . Right on. He doesn't get enough shine in my opinion. Hoonigan has too many characters in and out and only a few good ones but he's in the top 3 of them 🤷🏻♂️
Nope, they are the same atleast thats is claimed, the way it drifts is super smart, transfering rear available power to the one wheel, left or right depend on the side you do slide. In order to proper drift awd system you need overdrive at the rear so the rear axle can spin faster than the front, but they do super smart system by transfering all power to the one wheel so it can brake traction and make it drift, but for proper drift you really need to upset a car, push it really hard and it can drift properly. Look how Benny L make it drift.
@@trader2473 Focus RS uses the same trickery with transferring power to one rear wheel but additionally it has slight (~1.5%) overdrive ratio of rear axle. That's why I am wondering if Golf R is using the same gearing trickery to.
@@trader2473 What about wheel sizes? I just noticed that the same system in Audi RS3 has bigger diameter of rear wheels so it actually can overdrive them.
Is the drift/drive mode similar to how “Adaptive Chassis Control” works? Follow up question- Can adaptive chassis control be turned off, or otherwise deleted? I can’t even stand ABS, a car controlling itself at the level of self adapting chassis control just sounds awful to me. As for the drift, if the torque converter shifts the power to the rear I’d say it’s possible to do legitimately. You still had to steer and control it.
Hi Charles, great to see how things have progressed in the development in the Mk8. When are we going tonsee an update on the black R32? That build seems to have stalled 😂
Why there is no Rear engine rear wheel drive hot batchback? Fwd isn't very ideal, front biased AWD is good but not so much and RWD doesn't make any sense in hatchback so only less compromise option i can think is RERWD.
I’m a happy owner of a mrk8 R and I still don’t understand why the system cannot transfer 100% to the rear instead of 50%. It could be much better and more fun. The way on which I have to activate the drift mode is awkward and not only it doesn’t keep the last settings, but it changes the gauge cluster. I wish there was a way to overwrite that.
I 100% agree. There power distribution from engine to rear is mechanical. So it can’t decouple the front like it does the rear. It’s mechanically linked
@@HumbleMechanic VW should have designed arround this better and made the torque split much more adaptable, these cars have enough power to need more than 50% rear bias in some situations and other competitors like toyota or mercedes have already figured out ways to send more power to the back.
@@victorcorpadea1340 If you're talking about the A45/CLA45, it's really not much different. I don't believe it can put more than 50% drive to the rear either. It uses L & R rear multi-plate clutches to transfer side to side, which is the same as the Golf R. The system may be different but it's mechanically achieving the same thing. The Focus RS is the only modern transverse AWD car I'm aware of that actually mechanically overdrives the rear, and by that it's only 1.8% EE explains the differences here: ruclips.net/video/2-_Dzd74GUE/видео.html
Did you try holding the traction control button down for about 10 seconds ? With my old car there was a "Stability control" along with traction control that allowed both rear wheels to spin rather than just one side.
What are your thoughts on Toyota gr corolla? Toyota building a golf R that everyone wanted. Torsen front and rear with center diff clutch. 30 years of vw /audi ownership I've never understood mk2 golf rallye, mk4 r32, mk5 r32, and the golf r. They are not fun in the snow or the track.
VW: We know 90% of you can’t drive so we invented a mode that makes you think you’re doing something heroic while we keep everything in check with ESC on.
while i realy do like the golf 8 r it is a too sophisticated car for drifting imo. I would love to find out more about nurburg mode though... Any chance for you to travel to germany some time?
If have audi s3 8p but for drifting and more fun to drive you need only rwd powerful car with dual cluch transmission in 2022...we don't need manual like 80's
This was SO MUCH FUN!!! Drift or not LOL Also big ups to Dylan for the killer thumbnail shot from that chase car. You should follow him on instagram @thedylanshaffer instagram.com/thedylanshaffer?
I know you were wishing the e brake was not a button at this point come on now
@Global Communications think you meant rear wheel drive.
Clicked by curiosity, and dangerous Daniel poped up, immediate like
Nice
Bruh, I just met Danger Dan in Orlando last week. So awesome! 😎
It would be a fun feature for gravel or snow. It seems like for pavement it required pushing it much harder to get it loose than you have to with a rear drive car. It would be hard to find a good place to safely play with that on pavement - I guess a big parking lot.
I think it's almost intended for enjoying the winter
@@drifto616 Audis don’t really slide like that even in the rain would have to be snow or gravel been driving mine for a year now
@@sombrero4316 no fr. That was literally the demo vid too. Jus the mk8 doin skids in the snow. Def not meant for actually drifting
It's a little tougher due to it also still having AWD engaged you really gotta send an AWD car to get the sameish outcome of a rwd car with less effort
So there are a few people near me who own these and they've found places to play...not safely. It's everywhere, they're just power sliding around every corner and I truly suspect a lawsuit is in VW's future, again. I've seen people sue for less, I think.
Drift mode is undoubtedly a gimmick but a fun one!
It's not really accurate to say that this or other clutch-based AWD systems can send up to 50% power to the rear wheels. Percentage torque splits make sense when you are describing a standard open differential (50:50) or something like one of the later (R)S model Quattros with a default 40:60 split and a 4:1 torque biasing ratio (80:20 to 20:80), but they are confusing when talking about a typical clutch-based AWD system. I like to think of it as if they are a part-time system that can vary from off to fully locked. When the clutch is disengaged, no torque goes to the rear (or possibly a small amount due to clutch drag or preload). When the clutch is fully engaged, up the maximum torque capacity of the clutch can be sent to the rear axle. In the case of the Mk8 Golf R, Magna claims up to 3500 NM (1750 NM per side) for the Performax Rear Drive module. That's more than the transmission output at max engine torque in first gear, so theoretically all of the power could be sent to the rear axle. In driving situations where the clutch is fully engaged and neither axle is struggling for traction, the split will indeed be 50:50. But if the front axle approaches the limit of grip, more power will be transferred through the rear axle, pushing the car forward and maintaining traction at the front. In these situations, quite possible under heavy weight transfer, more than 50% of the power is being delivered through the rear wheels.
Bmw clutch based AWD can send it all to the rear. This is what I call a drift mode. VW must go back to basics. RWD biased AWD platforms with disconnectable front axle.
@@timetravellergec2043 It is just a gimmick based on the fact that it has a new torque vectoring differential. If you want RWD biased car get a BMW, Golfs and other VAGS simply should not be RWD biased since this changes the DNA of the cars entirely. Front wheel drive cars / front biased AWD cars are far easier to explore the limits of grip with, this makes them easier to drive fast for the majority of people due to understeer being more predictable than oversteer, BMW's are certainly targeted more towards driving enthusiasts (amongst luxuries) thus anyone who's owned/driven a BMW will tell you it's a hell of a lot more lethal on the limit than a FWD biased car. Each have their own target market and VW are doing it right with the Golf.
As an mk7 golf r owner i have to say the Focus rs is way easier to drift , donuts , and way overenginiered fro street use, while the golf r is still a drag race vehicle and confort however i love the dsg and its engine capabilities. For sure i will trade in for the mk8 But golf r for drift nahhhhh, i don't see myself drifting n a golf r. Maybe focus rs if you want to drift.
@@timetravellergec2043 VW ID3 GTX?
The GR yaris has a clutch based AWD system and it can send more power to the rear than the front under normal conditions.
The secret is slightly higher gearing on the rear diff, which means that a full lock would be able to make the front tires slide, in which case they would brake the car if it ever did fully lock.
But that doesn't mean anything for drifting obviously.
Cool stuff Charles! I love that you showed us some of the data behind it even if it isn’t perfect. The best part is you had fun along the way!
Danger Dan?! I’m so freakin jealous. Awesome video!
I recognized that voice immediately! So jealous.
I think the trade off is; it’s not truly a great “drift car” obviously, but this will be a riot in snow with a slicker road surface (and you can then throw it back in Comfort when need to return to driving like a fully-fledged adult). Great video/content ✌🏻
Thanks for the vid. I was suprised to see it drifting and its potential, it could only do so much with a driver that has never done this before. I must admit, I was disapointed to see that you didnt let the pro have a crack. Clearly it would of been a very different result.
I dont really let anyone drive my stuff since the day a "pro" crashed my S4 into a parked car.
@@HumbleMechanic you know what, I didnt even think of it like that. We sometimes forget, people that make RUclips vids are real ppl, and use their own money to buy their cars.
I love that Danger Dan as the most wholesome steering wheel
Hey Charles, would love to see a comparison in the AWD systems between the GR Corolla and the Golf R. Curious how Toyota gets up to the 30/70 Front/rear torque split
I would too. Lol as soon as the info is out I’ll do it. Maybe a collab with EE
Maybe they're just using the electronic brake controls to brake the front wheels? (Not sure how else to do it)
Gr corolla uses Torsen while Golf uses haldex. Haldex is a front wheel drive based electronic differential while haldex is pure mechanic.
@@oprisvlad3102 It's not Haldex anymore, they dropped that for the 8 R
The answer is rather simple. The rear diff has slightly longer gearing than the front one, so in a full lock scenario the front wheels would be slower than the rear ones, which means that all the forward torque goes through the rear wheels. The car doesn't actually do that, but it can do 70/30 with it.
I was there for this event, and when I passed the R in the show portion I wondered if they would try it with the drift mode on the track. Was honestly really fun to watch, and it did better than expected.
Thanks!
Charles!!! Just had to say, This golf 8R is very happy with his owner! Hahaha No doubt of that! Great video has always! Salute from *Spain*
Love the h red VCDS data analysis! Great to se dangerDan too…
You were power sliding your golf! Next time raise the rear tire pressure!
This really makes me want to go to a drift experience 😍
Danger Dan collab with Humble Mech made my day awesome 💪
If you see Chris Harris review of the MK7 Golf R from several years back, he managed to get it sideways through a corner with a bone stock car. Granted it required a lot of speed with a Scandinavian flick, but it could be done. That is not ideal, but with some suspension modifications and proper alignment, you can have a LOT of sideways fun with an MK7.
I think the MK8 new rear diff is an improvement, but it seems a relatively minor one. It might be a lot more effective with similar suspension modifications. I run -2.5 degrees of camber in front, -2 in back, slight toe out front a back, and stiffer springs, bushings... It is extremely balanced, gentle turn in results in nice four wheel drift, but a sharp turn in while lifting will make the rear easily come around but in a very controlled manner. It is not the fast way, but makes for easy adjustments when needed and can be a lot of fun.
It seems the MK8 still needs some work for track use, the new diff helps but you don't need it to have a fun tail out track car.
It would be cool to see what Dan could do with the R.
"Don't think you can do this in a Mk7" Challenge accepted.
Get it on VIDEO!!!!
Im curious how this would be on the DSG. Maybe someone with a DSG can let you take it out to see the difference. Love the showing of the data behind it. Hope to get my golf r soon.
you cant clutch kick dsg
@dvojlitrvplastu926 so the dsg will actually drift?
Because of how insanely high tire prices are, this video made me cry a little for you, Charles.
Wish I knew that was you in that mk8. Good job! My whole group was impressed.
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This is the first time I have ever seen a drifting Golf
Drift = Power Slide = Oversteer = Fishtail that you try to maintain. Different lingo for the same thing; pure fun.
Fun is the main takeaway 😂
As ALWAYS…amazing video buddy!!!
This is like snow drifting in the summertime lol, that's pretty neat
6:37 you can, just requires wet weather, a heavy right foot and some commitment, more of a power slide but still so fun to feel the power start pushing from the back.
I don’t really see this as a drift mode, but a type of traction control when on a race track. It helps keep power on the corner while having both hands on the wheel.
Yes, it's overpowering the outwheel so pushing you into the drift
Drifting is such a beautiful discipline.
So is pinball
Dude you got in a car with Danger Dan from Hoonigan!!! Very cool. This video is definitely making me consider the mk8 more.
this car is so much better than I expected.
And Dan is freaking awesome.
The nk8 is a terrible car to live with due to the infotainment system controlling so much. You will regret it, most end uo back at the dealers fixing it qhe the system packs up and the car is rendered immobile. Poorly thought out car.
This video was enjoyable, keep up the great content.
Hi Charles! Thanks so much for getting out and showing us what the mk8 can really do!!! It was an awesome vid! I’ve owned both the mk6 & mk7 golf r previously and am currently in a 2022 g70 (Genesis). I have a request please. Would you consider going to your local Genesis dealer and take out their 3.3l g70 awd for a good test drive. And if you would, put in in sport + mode and then deactivate stability control. I’d like your unbiased opinion and comparison of both vehicles please! There are no mk8 golf r available in my city for test drives or I’d do it myself. Lol
A power drift slide 🤷♂️ Informative and enjoyable thank you Charles.
Its like watching a tv show like top gear or hot rod tv ... Well done bruh
Thank you so much
I’d like to see a locked mode, where the rear torque is permanently locked to 50:50 left to right
Awesome! Loved seeing you with danger Dan! Love that guy
He is awesome!!!
Heres to thrashing on your new car all in the name of science!
Facts haha
cool car: check
drift mode: check
giggle factor: check (even though it was in honda...)
fun factor : achieved
summary?? hoonage factor 5 applied.
good job, sir, good job.
now, is this for everyone?? of course not. will *i* ever get an mk anything?? prolly not. (i have too many broken toys as it is) but i do enjoy your content and as a fellow euro car enthusiast, i say to please keep this content coming.
Feat Dan!!!! Wow awesome video
The alignment of the Hs, Hoonigan, HondaPro Jason and the humblemechanic.
Nice. I subscribe to Danger Dan's channel and have been a fan of Hoonigan for years.
Looks like the safety nanny was trying to fight you all the way. Fun day of burning the tire off your R. On snow or gravel that would be a real hoot. Keep these fun videos coming Charles.
That’s exactly what happened on run one.
It would be cool to see this test again if you fit a wavetrac or quaife lsd to the rear diff, in the case they offer it for this new of a model
It would be cool to have a split screen of two rear wheel cameras to see the wheelspeed (lock vs spinning) when your are drifting.
We kinda tried that. Sadly it didn’t play out. We had some “challenges “ at the track. 🥺
With a tune and a few clutch kicks im sure you could get it to drift better 😉
Can't wait until the clutch starts slipping 😩
Kinda drift, kinda power slide. Way batter than I could do anyway! It looked like fun!!!
Awesome Charles, a Hoonigan on Humble
I mean would be fun for city driving just getting a little backend spin on corners
notification squad, Have a nice weekend!🔥🔥🔥
THANK YOU
I actually like your definition of the drift.
It was a power slide all the way, good job charles
interesting, the car turns traction go rol off when i put mine in drift mode… but maybe it was in ESC sport and not ESC off, im not sure. but for me it automatically turned off traction control to an extent where i could easily throw it sideways.
Can’t wait to see the comparisons of this and new Corolla GR4
Me too! That car is pretty legit
Rotate rotate rotate....Charles goes 'Wheeeeeeeeee' if you would have made that sound, that would have been epic.
Dan the man!
It's danger Dan.... Nice
For drifting VWs, you should check in with The Drift Master, Tanner Foust. I think he is still a spokesman for VW. If you don't know Tanner, he was/is (?) a rally car and stunt driver. He was also the head driver for VW in the now-defunct GRC. Actually, it was the Beetles that killed the GRC. They won everything for three years in a row. Then GRC decided that everyone would have to run identical Fords. And that was the end.
Yep I know tanner well. We’ve done some work together in the past. Rad dude!!!
We get it dawg, you’re super into drifting lol
This is pretty neat!
I saw you at import alliance!! We were the drift team next to you with the dark red 240sx, the orange 240sx!
In the shot with the 3 240s, i was standing in that group infront of the orange one with the hampton wrestling hoodie on😂
Oh nice! I think you guys let us shoot some wheel turning footage!
If your buying parts 85% of Quattro and 4motion are identical just completely disengaging rear when not needed is primary difference both can bias torque equally well...if differently by design Audi claims 70% torque (of total)can be delivered to a single rear wheel on demand with 60% pre bias towards rear so vw should be able to deliver 60% of total torque to outside rear wheel
I love how you spent so long explaining drifting like we would click on this video if we didn’t know about it.
You know. But I bet you a bunch of people don’t.
I try to never assume people “just know” things.
Well as far as i see it its kinda of usefull on a track.
having more oversteer than understeer is way more controlable and fun.
Danger Dan! YOOOO
I was at IA i had no idea that was danger dan😯
Important question! Can you do center axis donuts with it?!
Oh shit, it's literally danger Dan. . . Right on. He doesn't get enough shine in my opinion. Hoonigan has too many characters in and out and only a few good ones but he's in the top 3 of them 🤷🏻♂️
If it's afther the apex (and it's rwd or awd), it is power slide; if it is before the apex, it's drift (it doesn't matter if it is rwd, awd, or fwd).
they did it very well in the RS.
"it's not really drifting but it's a good party" 😂
5 mins im thinking....is TC off?.......good one man
Shoulda let the pros have a go and see what they could've done with it 🤙🏻
Is there an overdrive of rear axle in drift mode (like in Focus RS or GR Yaris) or are the front and rear gear ratios equal?
Nope, they are the same atleast thats is claimed, the way it drifts is super smart, transfering rear available power to the one wheel, left or right depend on the side you do slide. In order to proper drift awd system you need overdrive at the rear so the rear axle can spin faster than the front, but they do super smart system by transfering all power to the one wheel so it can brake traction and make it drift, but for proper drift you really need to upset a car, push it really hard and it can drift properly. Look how Benny L make it drift.
@@trader2473 Focus RS uses the same trickery with transferring power to one rear wheel but additionally it has slight (~1.5%) overdrive ratio of rear axle. That's why I am wondering if Golf R is using the same gearing trickery to.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers VW and magna say that is the same gearing, no overdrive.
@@trader2473 Thanks.
@@trader2473 What about wheel sizes? I just noticed that the same system in Audi RS3 has bigger diameter of rear wheels so it actually can overdrive them.
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Is the drift/drive mode similar to how “Adaptive Chassis Control” works?
Follow up question- Can adaptive chassis control be turned off, or otherwise deleted? I can’t even stand ABS, a car controlling itself at the level of self adapting chassis control just sounds awful to me.
As for the drift, if the torque converter shifts the power to the rear I’d say it’s possible to do legitimately. You still had to steer and control it.
You need to push it harder. With some extra practice if will drift the whole track great.
I don't think I will do that to a new car ever. If I got a mk8 not even in my dreams. I will only try to get the car as fast as it can.
Hi Charles, great to see how things have progressed in the development in the Mk8. When are we going tonsee an update on the black R32? That build seems to have stalled 😂
It’s totally stalled. She’s been at the body shop since Christmas. 😕
The best fwd "drift" car
Feel like a tune and a few bolt ons might really get you sideways
Why there is no Rear engine rear wheel drive hot batchback? Fwd isn't very ideal, front biased AWD is good but not so much and RWD doesn't make any sense in hatchback so only less compromise option i can think is RERWD.
Renault cleo v6 is close to rear engine
Rear engine rwd is supposedly not good for drifting
I’m a happy owner of a mrk8 R and I still don’t understand why the system cannot transfer 100% to the rear instead of 50%. It could be much better and more fun. The way on which I have to activate the drift mode is awkward and not only it doesn’t keep the last settings, but it changes the gauge cluster. I wish there was a way to overwrite that.
I 100% agree.
There power distribution from engine to rear is mechanical. So it can’t decouple the front like it does the rear. It’s mechanically linked
@@HumbleMechanic thank you so much for educating me!
@@HumbleMechanic VW should have designed arround this better and made the torque split much more adaptable, these cars have enough power to need more than 50% rear bias in some situations and other competitors like toyota or mercedes have already figured out ways to send more power to the back.
@@victorcorpadea1340 If you're talking about the A45/CLA45, it's really not much different. I don't believe it can put more than 50% drive to the rear either. It uses L & R rear multi-plate clutches to transfer side to side, which is the same as the Golf R. The system may be different but it's mechanically achieving the same thing. The Focus RS is the only modern transverse AWD car I'm aware of that actually mechanically overdrives the rear, and by that it's only 1.8%
EE explains the differences here:
ruclips.net/video/2-_Dzd74GUE/видео.html
I did not like the early Jetta looks but I will admit they are extremely fun to drive.
next mod: stiffer sway bars
cool video!
We test fit a mk7.5 bar. It was a little off
Did you try holding the traction control button down for about 10 seconds ? With my old car there was a "Stability control" along with traction control that allowed both rear wheels to spin rather than just one side.
This is a different setup. There is a menus to select which TC you want. Drift puts jt I. Sport not off
You need a stage 2, that'll make the drifting happy!
As soon as tunes are out. We will. I have a JB4 ready to install
A wise man once told me “go right to turn left”
cool, at fist i was like, i need that drift mode, now i see its totally useless
Fun to do a few times but a novelty really
You should have put Danger Dan in the mk8 and see What a quick Driver mod would do. 👍
That would have been awesome. Sadly the dude that wrecked my S4(hit a parked car) kinda ruined me being cool with others driving my car
@@HumbleMechanic shit. Sorry to hear that. I was hoping to see More S4 content. I'm Building a Turbo B5 A4 2.8 Quattro myself.
Nice. Luckily it’s fixed now
Debbie downer question. Are the tires shot?
Wouldn’t it be better to send all the torque to the outside wheel?
Danger Dan expert car slider lol
Very cool. I will probably not try this on the street. Question, did you leave the stock tires on and will you now be swapping tires after that?...
Yep fully stock car.
I have new wheels and tires to go on it. Lowing a little
@@HumbleMechanic looking forward to seeing what you do with it.
What are your thoughts on Toyota gr corolla? Toyota building a golf R that everyone wanted. Torsen front and rear with center diff clutch. 30 years of vw /audi ownership I've never understood mk2 golf rallye, mk4 r32, mk5 r32, and the golf r. They are not fun in the snow or the track.
I think it’s going to be Aweosme
Got a question! I have a 08 F250 having problems the truck doesn’t go past 10pm and if put in reverse and accelerate the truck dies. Any suggestions
Am I wrong in thinking this seems hard on your breaks? Similar to the non mechanical "LSD" Volkswagen used previously?
not sure if is legit drift but looks cool, awd donuts are cool, maybe the corpse of the jetta can be turned into a proper drift car
So the system for the rear is closer to what the b8 s4 had in its sports differential. But I'm still a little foggy on the front.
Like a JR version of that
VW: We know 90% of you can’t drive so we invented a mode that makes you think you’re doing something heroic while we keep everything in check with ESC on.
danger dan havent seen him in awhile
while i realy do like the golf 8 r it is a too sophisticated car for drifting imo. I would love to find out more about nurburg mode though... Any chance for you to travel to germany some time?
Sadly no travels there. But we are working on a. Video about it.
If have audi s3 8p but for drifting and more fun to drive you need only rwd powerful car with dual cluch transmission in 2022...we don't need manual like 80's