Thomas And Friends was the first time I was introduced to the concept of a timeline. As a kid, I could never wrap my head around why Peter Sam was once called Stuart; or where all the narrow gauge engines even came from. I had vague - but vivid - memories of seeing the narrow gauge episodes; particularly the one where Duke rescues Sir Handel from crashing off the cliff, but I didn't understand how Duke was no longer on screen or where the name changes came in.
The most nostalgic timeline for me, and the one that affected me the most. As a kid, I loved it because talking trains and because the narration was so soothing. As an adult, I love the characters and narration still, but I can also admire the craftsmanship, how much time and effort it took to make these model sets and engines, the mechanics required to make their eyes move and steam come out, and the meticulous filming process. And discovering the deeper meanings of the stories and real life events that inspired them is the icing on the cake. Thank you so much, Tug for putting this all together.
@@ict113090true but at the same time those models weren’t invincible and definitely had their limitations so having animation that has no limitations was a better long term option especially with characters who finally got their chance to shine
Great idea but it would be cool to see the model and cgi series combine into one timeline by rewriting adventure begins to be Thomas' and Edward's arrival on sodor to construct the north western railway in their old accurate E2 and K2 shapes and water tank and brakes and steaming problems before being overhauled and rebuilt to fix their problems and their tv series style shapes with the S&M engines, W&S engines (preserved at the vicarstown railway museum and ulfstead castle, Eagle and Mika who now work at the peel godred branch with the electric engines, Wallace and his brother and sister Timothy and Martha now preserved at the vicarstown railway museum and Kirk Ronan branch and Alfred and crovan and Hiro's backstory being rewritten as the first international standard gauge engine on sodor with the first overall international sodor engine being Smudger and knowing Thomas, Edward, Henry, Gordon, James and the narrow gauge engines before.
and it will show Gordon, Henry and James arrival on sodor, Henry in his old shape and James in black paint before being repainted red and in his old accurate to his basis shape before being rebuilt into his tv series shape.
@@Mr-Gamer-DogeWhat if Yakko Warner banishes King Salazar to the shadow realm? Yakko Warner: I’m banishing you to the shadow realm! King Salazar: NOOOOOOO!!!! (Poof!) Yakko Warner: Much better! This should’ve been the deleted scene in Animaniacs: Wakko’s Wish.
You originally released this video on the last day of my freshman year of high school which was by far my worst year mentally but your videos were something good to look forward to. I just finished my junior year and I’ve gotten much better and I just want to thank you for always making quality content
Said this on the original upload, but my dad, who comes from a family of railroad employees and is lifelong model railroader, was in college around the time Thomas came to the states and he’s admitted on multiple occasions that he watched the show back in the day SOLELY because of the models
These timeline and map videos have some of the most dedication ever put into a Thomas the Tank Engine video! This is why I stuck around even after the channels termination. You should be proud of yourself Tug! Hope you enjoy life with your wife.
My take on a timeline for "Thomas & Friends", which I have been developing off-focus, follows the Railway Series-canon one pretty closely in respect for Awdry's original vision. There are some adjustments made though to accommodate aspects unique to the TV series take that I thought added weight to the overall picture. Pre-1000 - Great Waterton is founded as a town on the Island. 1683 - Great Waterton inaugurates its Waterworks, which powers clean water from a spring off Culdee Fell to provide clean water across Sodor. 1860s - Great Waterton is connected to the Sodor & Mainland Railway via Ballahoo; this ultimately becomes a branch line of the North Western. The events of 'Wharf and Peace' from Season 10 take place as a young Skarloey gets to grips working with trucks with his historic friend Neil's support. 1874 - The events of Season 7's 'The Old Bridge' occur during (historically-correct) stormy weather, with Mr. Mack, the original manager of Skarloey, in the place of Sir Topham Hatt. 1881 - As I clarified in my expansion of the Railway Series timeline, Falcon aka Sir Handel first arrives on the Mid Sodor Railway as their No. 3. He is originally minus his trailing wheels without a proper cab; the bucking and humiliation this causes stimulates his pessimistic attitude. 1887 - Falcon goes back to his builders to have trailing wheels fitted; he is given his blue paintjob around the same time. 1895 - Falcon suffers his 'Bulldog' mishap, whilst double-heading with the recently-rebuilt Duke to help break him into working again. The contempt that had been building up between the two is resolved. 1904 - Falcon is sent back to his builders again; this time to be given a new boiler and new frames. Much of him is renewed to replace worn parts. 1909 - Freddie arrives on the Mid Sodor Railway under trial. He stays for a while, proving himself an asset in any role he's given, earning him the nickname 'Fearless' Freddie. 1911 - Trevor the Traction Engine is bought by his original owner from an agricultural trade show on the Mainland; he is shipped to Sodor to begin work. 1920s-1940s - The events of Season 1 occur (if you would count Toby as being a resident of the Island of Sodor, although my take instead acknowledges his Great Eastern Railway roots as per the Railway Series canon). The flashbacks of 'Granpuff' and 'You Can't Win' also occur at this time, along with the flashbacks related to Skarloey and Rheneas. Great Waterton's spring dries up, and a new hydro-electric Power Station to the west near Peel Godred is built around a more plentiful supply of water; this in part triggers the closure stages of the Mid Sodor Railway. My take of 'Duncan Gets Spooked', which instead revolves outwardly around Duke, Falcon and Stuart, occurs towards their Old Line's endgame. 1950s-1960s - The events of Seasons 2-4, minus the singled-out moments from Season 4 I mentioned above, happen at this stage. 1967-1968 - Murdoch and Arthur are bought from British Railways for scrap-value, to help with revised service diagrams on the Main Line. Murdoch is more open-minded than his TV show portrayal, whilst Arthur after his unfortunate trial on Thomas's branch line, begins work shunting at the Big Station in the place of Duck. 1970s-1990s - Events beyond Season 4 occur (though not necessarily in exact order). Fleeting engines appear as a result of the Fat Controller opening up his Works to contracted work for privately-owned or museum engines from elsewhere, who are permitted to be trialled on the Railway to be broken into service. Regards, Samuel Farris.
I would personally place Toby’s arrival to Sir Topham Hatt’s railway before the landslide at Mrs Kindly’s cottage. Percy mentioned how both Thomas and Toby gave her presents.
Other household item details: 1. In the shot of Bill and Ben creeping into the sheds to find Boco, one of the background shed supports is a no label silver soup can 2. For the shed that is crushed from a water tower from heroes, that is fully made of cardboard based on the lines and how easily the warer soaks up into the "building"
growing up, I only got to see the stories from seasons 1 and 2, narrated by Ringo Starr (the UK version). I remember getting excited to go to "The Early Learning Center". a toy shop that most towns in the UK had, which had a targeted demographic of toddlers and pre-teens. not only did they sell wooden railway thomas toys, but they always had their own TV in store playing a Thomas video. I can remember sitting on one of the bean-bag cushions and watching a couple of season 3 episodes i had never seen before like Henry's forest, which i begged my mum to buy me. but she never did sadly. however on a sleepover at a friends house we not only watched one of his season 3 videos, but also a video filled with only the Skarloey and narrow guage engine stories! we may be in our 30's now, but we still to this day unconsciously hum Duncan's theme song to each other.
huh, I guess the old files were missing some clips? for example at 6:04, the orignal video showed clips of j70 model tram engines. were as here, the clip of the lost engine is used...
the Adventures of the paint pots and queens trilogy which consists of the following episodes(Off the rails, Down the mine, and Paint pots and queens) should take place in the middle of second season shortly after Duck's arrival and before the events of Diesel's arrival and after Donald and Douglas stories because in the episode Percy takes a plunge Percy tells both Bill and Ben his events of Percy Promise and after which he meets up with Thomas who was looking at a danger sign which Thomas tells Percy about his incident with one and he fell down a mine.
I think of Thomas and the magic railroad is something more of a dream Thomas had about the future of him and his friends and that’s why there is magic involved because it’s A DREAM
Idea on when things could take place in the TV Series (note: I don’t see the Model and CGI eras as different canons): The first few episodes of Season 1 could be set in the mid-late 1930s at the most due to how in Thomas’ Train there’s a portrait of what seems to be a LMS Princess Royal Class (which were built in 1933 and 1935) in Sir Topham Hatt’s office (I can’t tell completely, that might be a Royal Scot too). Hiro could’ve also shown up on Sodor in the 1930s but a separate Railway from the NWR explaining why he thought he was the only engine on Sodor. I’d also say things in Season 2 were set post-1948 when British Railways was formed due to the Blood and Custard coaches, the diesels showing up, and the theme of steam engines being scrapped with Donald and Douglas showing up, and you could say most things in S2 take place when they did in the RWS. As for when some arrivals specifically happened; -1962: The Diseasel (the year when the Class 28s were allocated to Barrow in Furness) with the last few episodes of Season 2 happening. -1963: Tender Engines (when Flying Scotsman was preserved) with all the other episodes of Season 3 happening as well as some of the first few episodes of Season 4 happening. -1964: Bowled Out and Double Teething Troubles (BR switched to Rail Blue in 1965 and D261 and Derek showed up in BR Green) with most of the rest of Season 4, Off The Rails and Down The Mine, Percy Takes The Plunge, and Season 5 happening. The Daisy saga could’ve even happened around here due to not appearing with the rest of the engines in Missing Christmas Tree, Special Letter, or Season 3. With these possibilities, Season 6-onwards could be set from 1965 and after. Rex Bert and Mike’s stories in Season 20 could’ve also happened when most of the events of Season 3 were happening (to align with the RWS timeline) but Duck pulling the Slip Coaches in Mike’s Whistle begs to differ.
Besides, Rex Bert and Mike’s stories in Season 20 takes place in the current time years after Series 3. The TV show can do it's own thing you know. Besides, models can't do it.
@@DavidBContentExtravaganza3967 Yeah I know that. But still, some things can take place during a season before the season it’s part of; for example An Engine With Many Colors came out in Season 22 but it’s set during the events of Season 21 and here, The Unlucky Tug is having the Off The Rails and Down The Mine set after Season 1 due to how Paint Pots and Queens was done later, and he also had Derek arrive around the events of Season 3 due to what happened in Heroes.
I never read the Railway Series, starting my Thomas journey in the year of my birth, 1993, with the model series and TTTE/STS on television. So unlike most fans I will always default to the TV series timeline as that is what I am most familiar with. That is not to say that the RWS is in some way wrong, after all as you said, it WAS written by the man himself, the Reverend Awdry. However, I will always be far more of a fan of the TV series than I am of the books. To each their own personal preference after all. Nice job, Unlucky Tug.
Before The Beginning: (1880's-1949) The Golden Years (Seasons 1-4) (1949-1966) The Middle Years (Seasons 5 -7) (1966-1970) The New Era (Seasons 8-12) (1970-1979)
I'd like to imagine the franchise like this: The RWS, Model series, and CGI series are all canon, but are in different continuties. They all share many of the same characters and concepts, but each one differs in their portrayals of said characters and adding new ones exclusive to each continuity. Bear from the RWS, Neville from the Model series, and Stephen from the CGI series are all canon to the franchise, but are part of different continuities and timelines. This can be seen in some events like the Sad Story of Henry, each continuity has its own slightly different version of the same story but the story is still canon to the franchise. Or Thomas and the Trucks, where again, the story itself is canon, but each continuity has different portrayals of it. This is my personal opinion on the franchise
Even though I never grew up or was born around this time I will always adore Season 1 because of how much used to love that season when I was a child in the early 2000s and especially seasons 2, 3, 4, 5, and maybe 6 but from season 7-11 was when it started goimg downhill and the CGI era is what put it to bed. From Season 1 through 6 will always hold a special place in my heart (mainly Season 1) and the CGI era is basically "what have you done to my childhood"
6:5511:56 I guess this railway was built while Henry was rebuild like you showed us that in the railway series before Toby came to Sodor he and the half pariah had a nasty accident
I really enjoy your videos I watched the 2000s Thomas shows as a kid and got back into it recently because I remembered I used to watch and wanted to watch it again
Thomas the Tank Engine Series was one of my oldest childhood memories and since then I love both the models and the CGI. It's a shame that the CGI Thomas and Friends series has coming to the end because I would to see continuing visiting other countries a bit more as he hasn't have a chance to visit American, Germany, France, Mexico, Berlin, and Japan as well as meeting the other engines featuring in "Thomas and Friends The Great Race" like Vinnie, Frieda, Axel, Ivan, Etienne and Carlos. But sadly it's not going to happen now no thanks to Mattel.
I like to think Oliver took over Thomas's portion of the mail train, as we never see Thomas on mail duties afterwards. And since Oliver was off screen for many seasons, he probably got a hold of the job and has mostly been on night trains. Not perfect, but I think its a cool idea.
29:48 I always believe Topham should’ve done with Henry after his tunnel incident. “I’m banishing you to the shadow realm Henry” *”NOOOOooooo”* [henry vanishes]
13:0019:29 I feel like all of Season 1 should continue in it’s usual order then paint pots and queens, and then Thomas’ Christmas Party. I feel like Duck and Donald Appear as escorts in Paint Pots and Queens prior to getting purchased and STH wanted to buy them specifically as he knew them.
They could still be retconned as other engines who were visiting the railway. It doesn’t have to be Duck and Donald. We do see Daisy, BoCo and Mavis’s models used for the diesels at the yard in Vicarstown for BR. It doesn’t mean they actually are Daisy, BoCo and Mavis.
My basis for what's canon and what isn't relies on what's presented mainly through the text and not necessarily through the visuals. Visuals are a means of telling a story, and there have been times where a certain character appears in a scene taking place in a certain point in the timeline when they're not supposed to be present, such as Rheneas being present during certain episodes when he's supposed to still be at the works. Since Rheneas himself isn't mentioned directly in any of those scenes by any of the characters or by the narrator, I regard him as having canonically not been present for any of those scenes and that his appearance was down to a production error. The scene probably called for a group shot of the narrow gauge engines and someone included his model with the rest without being made aware of continuity. In short, from my point of view, a character is only present during the events of an episode if they were directly mentioned as having been there by the narrator or were acknowledged directly by another character. If a character's model is present but they aren't mentioned directly, their canonical presence lies in a grey area of sorts where they either were or weren't present based on whether or not it makes sense for them to be there according to what's established in other episodes. Another example is James being in the yard in the station yard while Thomas is working there before he gains his own branch line in "Thomas & the Breakdown Line" which was established in the next episode as having been James's first day on the railway, meaning he couldn't have been presebt while Thomas was still working in the yard, but since he isn't referred to by name in any of those episodes, isn't mentioned directly and has no speaking lines, we can suggest that James wasn't canonically in any of those episodes and that perhaps who we saw was another random unidentified engine who James's model was simply repurposed for, kinds like how a bunch of diesel engine character models were repurposed for the engines present at the scrap yard in "Rusty to the Rescue".
37:18 I can't help but notice this is the first time Duncan is acknowledged Felt strange for him to be the only narrow gauge engine whose arrival wasn't announced.
Thomas And Friends was the first time I was introduced to the concept of a timeline.
As a kid, I could never wrap my head around why Peter Sam was once called Stuart; or where all the narrow gauge engines even came from.
I had vague - but vivid - memories of seeing the narrow gauge episodes; particularly the one where Duke rescues Sir Handel from crashing off the cliff, but I didn't understand how Duke was no longer on screen or where the name changes came in.
I think that was the episode I saw the most out of the narrow gauge arc.
Me too
The most nostalgic timeline for me, and the one that affected me the most. As a kid, I loved it because talking trains and because the narration was so soothing. As an adult, I love the characters and narration still, but I can also admire the craftsmanship, how much time and effort it took to make these model sets and engines, the mechanics required to make their eyes move and steam come out, and the meticulous filming process. And discovering the deeper meanings of the stories and real life events that inspired them is the icing on the cake. Thank you so much, Tug for putting this all together.
I feel like the Model series is one of the most satisfying timeline of all of Thomas and friends if I'm honest
I ruined the 100 likes lol
@@bernarda1247 you didn't ruin it, you made his comment more relevant
@@mysteryman765oh
Using real model trains is way cooler than 3D animation.
@@ict113090true but at the same time those models weren’t invincible and definitely had their limitations so having animation that has no limitations was a better long term option especially with characters who finally got their chance to shine
4:07 Before The Beginning
10:24 The Golden Years (Seasons 1-4)
25:02 The Middle Years (Seasons 5-7)
34:04 The New Era (The Hit Era) (Seasons 8-12)
Great idea but it would be cool to see the model and cgi series combine into one timeline by rewriting adventure begins to be Thomas' and Edward's arrival on sodor to construct the north western railway in their old accurate E2 and K2 shapes and water tank and brakes and steaming problems before being overhauled and rebuilt to fix their problems and their tv series style shapes with the S&M engines, W&S engines (preserved at the vicarstown railway museum and ulfstead castle, Eagle and Mika who now work at the peel godred branch with the electric engines, Wallace and his brother and sister Timothy and Martha now preserved at the vicarstown railway museum and Kirk Ronan branch and Alfred and crovan and Hiro's backstory being rewritten as the first international standard gauge engine on sodor with the first overall international sodor engine being Smudger and knowing Thomas, Edward, Henry, Gordon, James and the narrow gauge engines before.
and it will show Gordon, Henry and James arrival on sodor, Henry in his old shape and James in black paint before being repainted red and in his old accurate to his basis shape before being rebuilt into his tv series shape.
and change the royal engine line from repaired to rebuilt to avoid disregarding past events and continuity errors
34:04
The lore of Thomas is honestly one of the most underrated aspects about the franchise imo.
Agreed
29:50 “I banished you to the shadow realm”
Sir topham Hatt
NOOOO! *Disappears*
"Much better!"
*I'm banishing
RUclips did that to the Unlucky Tug.
Anyways, who wants to make up for that by getting this video back to 1 million views?
@@joshuaW5621 Count me in
29:48 “I’m banishing you to the Shadow Realm.”
*”NOOO-“*
“Much Better”
What a Classic.
Yeah right
@@stevengarcia8259 yep
@@Mr-Gamer-DogeWhat if Yakko Warner banishes King Salazar to the shadow realm?
Yakko Warner: I’m banishing you to the shadow realm!
King Salazar: NOOOOOOO!!!!
(Poof!)
Yakko Warner: Much better!
This should’ve been the deleted scene in Animaniacs: Wakko’s Wish.
@@jasonadams5971 what are you talking about sry for reply taking to long i signed out bye accident and got back in
@@Mr-Gamer-Doge It’s just Yakko Warner from Animaniacs banishing King Salazar from Wakko’s Wish to the Shadow Realm.
I clicked on this faster than Thomas with the jet engine
Same
No kidding; I’ve been waiting for this one.
@@bennewbury2572 Same
I clicked on this faster than Micheal Brandon's Season 7 narratiojs
Haha
You originally released this video on the last day of my freshman year of high school which was by far my worst year mentally but your videos were something good to look forward to. I just finished my junior year and I’ve gotten much better and I just want to thank you for always making quality content
Same
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What is freshman year?
Goddamn being British is a disease
Said this on the original upload, but my dad, who comes from a family of railroad employees and is lifelong model railroader, was in college around the time Thomas came to the states and he’s admitted on multiple occasions that he watched the show back in the day SOLELY because of the models
These timeline and map videos have some of the most dedication ever put into a Thomas the Tank Engine video! This is why I stuck around even after the channels termination. You should be proud of yourself Tug! Hope you enjoy life with your wife.
I like to think between season 7 and 8 when HIT took over Skarloey had a seizure and that's why he dumb
I personally don’t consider most of the narrow gauge episodes in the HiT era canon.
I like to think the narrow gauge engines were so old during that period that they became senile and childish
I grew up with the Model series. I had DVDs, battery toys, wooden tracks, i loved Thomas.
29:49 never gets old
At last! This was always one of my favourite videos of yours. The amount of stuff in here is just insane!
29:48
STH : i'm Banishing You
To The Shadow Realm
Sir Handel : NOOO ( *Vanish* )
STH : Must Better
Ah, another one of your all-time greatest videos returns! I was and still am amazed at how you managed to piece this all together.
My take on a timeline for "Thomas & Friends", which I have been developing off-focus, follows the Railway Series-canon one pretty closely in respect for Awdry's original vision. There are some adjustments made though to accommodate aspects unique to the TV series take that I thought added weight to the overall picture.
Pre-1000 - Great Waterton is founded as a town on the Island.
1683 - Great Waterton inaugurates its Waterworks, which powers clean water from a spring off Culdee Fell to provide clean water across Sodor.
1860s - Great Waterton is connected to the Sodor & Mainland Railway via Ballahoo; this ultimately becomes a branch line of the North Western. The events of 'Wharf and Peace' from Season 10 take place as a young Skarloey gets to grips working with trucks with his historic friend Neil's support.
1874 - The events of Season 7's 'The Old Bridge' occur during (historically-correct) stormy weather, with Mr. Mack, the original manager of Skarloey, in the place of Sir Topham Hatt.
1881 - As I clarified in my expansion of the Railway Series timeline, Falcon aka Sir Handel first arrives on the Mid Sodor Railway as their No. 3. He is originally minus his trailing wheels without a proper cab; the bucking and humiliation this causes stimulates his pessimistic attitude.
1887 - Falcon goes back to his builders to have trailing wheels fitted; he is given his blue paintjob around the same time.
1895 - Falcon suffers his 'Bulldog' mishap, whilst double-heading with the recently-rebuilt Duke to help break him into working again. The contempt that had been building up between the two is resolved.
1904 - Falcon is sent back to his builders again; this time to be given a new boiler and new frames. Much of him is renewed to replace worn parts.
1909 - Freddie arrives on the Mid Sodor Railway under trial. He stays for a while, proving himself an asset in any role he's given, earning him the nickname 'Fearless' Freddie.
1911 - Trevor the Traction Engine is bought by his original owner from an agricultural trade show on the Mainland; he is shipped to Sodor to begin work.
1920s-1940s - The events of Season 1 occur (if you would count Toby as being a resident of the Island of Sodor, although my take instead acknowledges his Great Eastern Railway roots as per the Railway Series canon). The flashbacks of 'Granpuff' and 'You Can't Win' also occur at this time, along with the flashbacks related to Skarloey and Rheneas. Great Waterton's spring dries up, and a new hydro-electric Power Station to the west near Peel Godred is built around a more plentiful supply of water; this in part triggers the closure stages of the Mid Sodor Railway. My take of 'Duncan Gets Spooked', which instead revolves outwardly around Duke, Falcon and Stuart, occurs towards their Old Line's endgame.
1950s-1960s - The events of Seasons 2-4, minus the singled-out moments from Season 4 I mentioned above, happen at this stage.
1967-1968 - Murdoch and Arthur are bought from British Railways for scrap-value, to help with revised service diagrams on the Main Line. Murdoch is more open-minded than his TV show portrayal, whilst Arthur after his unfortunate trial on Thomas's branch line, begins work shunting at the Big Station in the place of Duck.
1970s-1990s - Events beyond Season 4 occur (though not necessarily in exact order). Fleeting engines appear as a result of the Fat Controller opening up his Works to contracted work for privately-owned or museum engines from elsewhere, who are permitted to be trialled on the Railway to be broken into service.
Regards, Samuel Farris.
(29:48-29:54) Topham Hatt: "I'm Banishing you to the Shadow Realm!"
Sir Handel: "NO!"
Topham Hatt: "Much Better."
A Classic.
28:40 The Unlucky Tug: *breaks character*
27:38 7:08 Oliver: Maybe in another life we could’ve been different engines maybe we could’ve been more than we are…
I would personally place Toby’s arrival to Sir Topham Hatt’s railway before the landslide at Mrs Kindly’s cottage. Percy mentioned how both Thomas and Toby gave her presents.
I love coming back to this video once and awhile because of how good it is, One of my personal favorites on RUclips‼️🗣️
This was the first video of yours I ever watched and it reignited my love for this show. Glad it’s up again.
The amount of work for this era is truly fascinating :)
every time i get back to this channel i just feel the urge to go back to the first few seasons again, seasons 1 through 5 are just, awesome
THE Thomas timeline is back! I missed this one so much!
13:05 How did I only just notice that Sir Topham Hatt is standing on LEGOS?
Other household item details:
1. In the shot of Bill and Ben creeping into the sheds to find Boco, one of the background shed supports is a no label silver soup can
2. For the shed that is crushed from a water tower from heroes, that is fully made of cardboard based on the lines and how easily the warer soaks up into the "building"
I think I noticed that when I was younger
Watching this gives me so much nostalgia for things I didn’t even think I remembered from childhood
Watching the wheels move and hearing them move on the tracks has always been satisfying to me
growing up, I only got to see the stories from seasons 1 and 2, narrated by Ringo Starr (the UK version).
I remember getting excited to go to "The Early Learning Center". a toy shop that most towns in the UK had, which had a targeted demographic of toddlers and pre-teens. not only did they sell wooden railway thomas toys, but they always had their own TV in store playing a Thomas video. I can remember sitting on one of the bean-bag cushions and watching a couple of season 3 episodes i had never seen before like Henry's forest, which i begged my mum to buy me. but she never did sadly.
however on a sleepover at a friends house we not only watched one of his season 3 videos, but also a video filled with only the Skarloey and narrow guage engine stories! we may be in our 30's now, but we still to this day unconsciously hum Duncan's theme song to each other.
i remember being so hyped when this released
thank you tug
6:05, yes that is a fleet of tram engines.
To be fair, the original video had a photo of tram engines. I’m assuming he took the photo out for Copyright or something.
Topham: I’m banishing you to the shadow realm
Sir-Handel: nooooo!
Topham: much better
I guess Topham watched the dubbed version of Yu-Gi-Oh!
On 4kids, the same place to happed to tugs
Happy to have this one back. Thank for the awesome vids sir
huh, I guess the old files were missing some clips? for example at 6:04, the orignal video showed clips of j70 model tram engines. were as here, the clip of the lost engine is used...
I just noticed that!
The effort put into this is frankly incredible. Great work.
The model series lore is just as rich as the railway series lore
Yeah no RWS lore is more detailed even if you don't count the pre-railway stuff
the Adventures of the paint pots and queens trilogy which consists of the following episodes(Off the rails, Down the mine, and Paint pots and queens) should take place in the middle of second season shortly after Duck's arrival and before the events of Diesel's arrival and after Donald and Douglas stories because in the episode Percy takes a plunge Percy tells both Bill and Ben his events of Percy Promise and after which he meets up with Thomas who was looking at a danger sign which Thomas tells Percy about his incident with one and he fell down a mine.
13:26 10:55 The ironworks was once run by Edward’s ghost engine when it first opened
"Edward ghost engine" what do you mean?
Stella
No, Edwards ghost engine was made up
That was never confirmed that engine was probably just an engine scrapped there
We can all agree that models dominate cgi.
I think of Thomas and the magic railroad is something more of a dream Thomas had about the future of him and his friends and that’s why there is magic involved because it’s A DREAM
Contrary to popular belief, Britt Allcroft said it takes place between seasons 5 and 6.
29:47 what you all are looking for
The boulder and shadow realm returns
Idea on when things could take place in the TV Series (note: I don’t see the Model and CGI eras as different canons):
The first few episodes of Season 1 could be set in the mid-late 1930s at the most due to how in Thomas’ Train there’s a portrait of what seems to be a LMS Princess Royal Class (which were built in 1933 and 1935) in Sir Topham Hatt’s office (I can’t tell completely, that might be a Royal Scot too). Hiro could’ve also shown up on Sodor in the 1930s but a separate Railway from the NWR explaining why he thought he was the only engine on Sodor. I’d also say things in Season 2 were set post-1948 when British Railways was formed due to the Blood and Custard coaches, the diesels showing up, and the theme of steam engines being scrapped with Donald and Douglas showing up, and you could say most things in S2 take place when they did in the RWS. As for when some arrivals specifically happened;
-1962: The Diseasel (the year when the Class 28s were allocated to Barrow in Furness) with the last few episodes of Season 2 happening.
-1963: Tender Engines (when Flying Scotsman was preserved) with all the other episodes of Season 3 happening as well as some of the first few episodes of Season 4 happening.
-1964: Bowled Out and Double Teething Troubles (BR switched to Rail Blue in 1965 and D261 and Derek showed up in BR Green) with most of the rest of Season 4, Off The Rails and Down The Mine, Percy Takes The Plunge, and Season 5 happening. The Daisy saga could’ve even happened around here due to not appearing with the rest of the engines in Missing Christmas Tree, Special Letter, or Season 3.
With these possibilities, Season 6-onwards could be set from 1965 and after. Rex Bert and Mike’s stories in Season 20 could’ve also happened when most of the events of Season 3 were happening (to align with the RWS timeline) but Duck pulling the Slip Coaches in Mike’s Whistle begs to differ.
Besides, Rex Bert and Mike’s stories in Season 20 takes place in the current time years after Series 3. The TV show can do it's own thing you know. Besides, models can't do it.
@@DavidBContentExtravaganza3967 Yeah I know that. But still, some things can take place during a season before the season it’s part of; for example An Engine With Many Colors came out in Season 22 but it’s set during the events of Season 21 and here, The Unlucky Tug is having the Off The Rails and Down The Mine set after Season 1 due to how Paint Pots and Queens was done later, and he also had Derek arrive around the events of Season 3 due to what happened in Heroes.
29:48-29:53
Sir topphat= "im banishing you to shadow realm-"
Sir handel (me)= *use Uno block card*
Thomas and the Magic Railroad was all a dream.
There. That explains everything.
Fun fact: Britt Allcroft said it is canon, but I’ll leave that up to you to decide because I still don’t consider it canon either.
Or it can be canon in a meta sense, where it was also a movie in universe.
Really enjoy your content. Hope all gets worked out.
29:48 Im Banishing You to the Shadow Realm
What a Certified Meme
great video! did you know that in 13:07, sir topham hat is standing on a stack of legos?
I never read the Railway Series, starting my Thomas journey in the year of my birth, 1993, with the model series and TTTE/STS on television. So unlike most fans I will always default to the TV series timeline as that is what I am most familiar with.
That is not to say that the RWS is in some way wrong, after all as you said, it WAS written by the man himself, the Reverend Awdry. However, I will always be far more of a fan of the TV series than I am of the books. To each their own personal preference after all.
Nice job, Unlucky Tug.
"run by a fleet of tram engines"
*shows not-Proteus crossing the bridge*
The greatest timeline of Thomas
Change my mind
On my opinion cgi is the worst and the rws has a draw with this timeline
Yay unlike the cgi series the classic series has natural plot that somewhat makes since
"I'm banishing you to the Shadow Realm!" - RUclips, to The Unlucky Tug
“Noooooooooo!”
“Much worse”
The 2 eras shown here (Classic and Hit) do help make up this very good timeline of the series so far.
Before The Beginning: (1880's-1949)
The Golden Years (Seasons 1-4) (1949-1966)
The Middle Years (Seasons 5 -7) (1966-1970)
The New Era (Seasons 8-12) (1970-1979)
I wish Sodar was real. It looks like such a beautiful place LOL
I'd like to imagine the franchise like this:
The RWS, Model series, and CGI series are all canon, but are in different continuties. They all share many of the same characters and concepts, but each one differs in their portrayals of said characters and adding new ones exclusive to each continuity. Bear from the RWS, Neville from the Model series, and Stephen from the CGI series are all canon to the franchise, but are part of different continuities and timelines. This can be seen in some events like the Sad Story of Henry, each continuity has its own slightly different version of the same story but the story is still canon to the franchise. Or Thomas and the Trucks, where again, the story itself is canon, but each continuity has different portrayals of it.
This is my personal opinion on the franchise
Sir topham: I'm bannashing you to the shadow real
Sir handle: *Noooo*
Sir topham: Mutch better
One of if not the greatest meme of the fandom!
How does this guy know so much about Thomas
You're getting back there
There are a few season 8+ engines that I’m disappointed didn’t stick around for longer. A waste of some cool character concepts
My favorite Timeline video!
The Model Series will always be my favorite. I grew up watching it, and I plan to show it to my kids too
Remember Smudger? What ever happened to him? He was turned into a generator and he was never talked about again.
Was Smudger left behind?
Same question, would be too sad if they left him😢
They probably did if he still was there by the mid-sodor closure
He dead
He was probably scrapped.
21:42 didn’t they say at the end of the episode that he would come back after being repaired?
Well since we never see Derek again, I guess he didn’t see a point in mentioning it, or he headcanons that Derek just visits from time to time.
29:48
Everyone’s favorite part!
🤣
I said this on the old version of this, but I'll say it again: this video is how I learned how to pronounce "clerestory".
Even though I never grew up or was born around this time I will always adore Season 1 because of how much used to love that season when I was a child in the early 2000s and especially seasons 2, 3, 4, 5, and maybe 6 but from season 7-11 was when it started goimg downhill and the CGI era is what put it to bed. From Season 1 through 6 will always hold a special place in my heart (mainly Season 1) and the CGI era is basically "what have you done to my childhood"
17:27 I used to be terrified of this episode for this specific shot. Looking back, It still looks cursed.
Who else is here after binging S1-12 and/or of the Thomas Retrospectives?
8:53 If we have to agree with this we can write one of the scenes in the adventure begins off as not canon
In the blue snowplow”s Head canon Rusty and the boulder and Toby and the flood took place at the same time
6:55 11:56 I guess this railway was built while Henry was rebuild like you showed us that in the railway series before Toby came to Sodor he and the half pariah had a nasty accident
20:49 Thats supposed to a be a o-cyliri Water Tender,it a freakin Standard LNER Cooridor Tender.
13:06 are those just straight up Lego bricks
Yep.
I watched this so much when I was 3-6, now I need to watch a video to remember it
8:05 Another engine which looked like Stepney came to build this railway as well she was…well…different
You mean the half engine?
29:49 I'm banishing you to the Shadow Realm! - Sir Topham Hatt (2021)
I'm banishing you to the Shadow Realm.
NOOOOO! *Disappears*
Much better.
I really enjoy your videos I watched the 2000s Thomas shows as a kid and got back into it recently because I remembered I used to watch and wanted to watch it again
Thomas the Tank Engine Series was one of my oldest childhood memories and since then I love both the models and the CGI. It's a shame that the CGI Thomas and Friends series has coming to the end because I would to see continuing visiting other countries a bit more as he hasn't have a chance to visit American, Germany, France, Mexico, Berlin, and Japan as well as meeting the other engines featuring in "Thomas and Friends The Great Race" like Vinnie, Frieda, Axel, Ivan, Etienne and Carlos. But sadly it's not going to happen now no thanks to Mattel.
I like to think Oliver took over Thomas's portion of the mail train, as we never see Thomas on mail duties afterwards. And since Oliver was off screen for many seasons, he probably got a hold of the job and has mostly been on night trains. Not perfect, but I think its a cool idea.
Hahah! Welcome back!
7:28 I guess Glenn used to work at those places
Between 27:39 & 27:40 (In my head) is where the events of “The Good Old Days” occurs.
29:48 I always believe Topham should’ve done with Henry after his tunnel incident.
“I’m banishing you to the shadow realm Henry”
*”NOOOOooooo”* [henry vanishes]
13:00 19:29 I feel like all of Season 1 should continue in it’s usual order then paint pots and queens, and then Thomas’ Christmas Party. I feel like Duck and Donald Appear as escorts in Paint Pots and Queens prior to getting purchased and STH wanted to buy them specifically as he knew them.
They could still be retconned as other engines who were visiting the railway. It doesn’t have to be Duck and Donald. We do see Daisy, BoCo and Mavis’s models used for the diesels at the yard in Vicarstown for BR. It doesn’t mean they actually are Daisy, BoCo and Mavis.
6:04 Maybe Hiro Neil and his brothers worked Great Waterton as well
My basis for what's canon and what isn't relies on what's presented mainly through the text and not necessarily through the visuals. Visuals are a means of telling a story, and there have been times where a certain character appears in a scene taking place in a certain point in the timeline when they're not supposed to be present, such as Rheneas being present during certain episodes when he's supposed to still be at the works. Since Rheneas himself isn't mentioned directly in any of those scenes by any of the characters or by the narrator, I regard him as having canonically not been present for any of those scenes and that his appearance was down to a production error. The scene probably called for a group shot of the narrow gauge engines and someone included his model with the rest without being made aware of continuity.
In short, from my point of view, a character is only present during the events of an episode if they were directly mentioned as having been there by the narrator or were acknowledged directly by another character. If a character's model is present but they aren't mentioned directly, their canonical presence lies in a grey area of sorts where they either were or weren't present based on whether or not it makes sense for them to be there according to what's established in other episodes.
Another example is James being in the yard in the station yard while Thomas is working there before he gains his own branch line in "Thomas & the Breakdown Line" which was established in the next episode as having been James's first day on the railway, meaning he couldn't have been presebt while Thomas was still working in the yard, but since he isn't referred to by name in any of those episodes, isn't mentioned directly and has no speaking lines, we can suggest that James wasn't canonically in any of those episodes and that perhaps who we saw was another random unidentified engine who James's model was simply repurposed for, kinds like how a bunch of diesel engine character models were repurposed for the engines present at the scrap yard in "Rusty to the Rescue".
We could also apply this logic to Duck and Donald’s presence in Paint Pots and Queens or even Toby having the number 7 on his old tramway.
@@joshuaW5621 Exactly. In the case of the latter, that was something I never even noticed
my childhood, i really enjoyed this video, constantly had me saying "omg yea i remember that"
He included the meme!
No, He created the meme this is the re-upload
you did a fantastic job!
tbh, after season 9 it kinda got meh, but the first season, super cool!
Video idea. Find out all the real world inspirations for the stories of the railway series. Might take a lot of research!
29:48 _And so a meme was born..._
You mean 29:49
And that is exactly what Mattel deserves lol
@@joshuaW5621 Thomas fandom: I'm banishing you to the shadow realm
Mattel: NOOOO
Thomas fandom: Much better
@@fanofeverything30465 funnily enough, I’ve made a video of Mattel being banished to the shadow realm.
@@joshuaW5621 Can you link it
@@fanofeverything30465 sure. Here’s the video - ruclips.net/video/--jG07kz9hE/видео.html
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I can't help but notice this is the first time Duncan is acknowledged
Felt strange for him to be the only narrow gauge engine whose arrival wasn't announced.
I’m still surprised to see the model timeline was the one that made up the longest video
Still love the Cloistery coach bit 😂
Actually lady was mentioned by Henry in season 12 it was an offhanded mention the words are: I wonder where is that mysterious engine
What episode? I doubt that was referring to Henry