Delran Night Out 2019 Production Gig Log
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- Опубликовано: 22 сен 2019
- On August 6th, 2019, Delran Township in New Jersey had us out to provide lighting and sound for their annual National Night Out 2019 event!
Gear list (all gear not owned by SLM is marked as rented):
Lighting:
8 - Chauvet Intimidator Spot 355 IRC
4 - Chauvet Intimidator Wash 350 (rented)
6 - Chauvet ColorBand PiX-M
8 - ADJ UB 6h
6 - Blizzard TOURNado WiMAX QZoom (rented)
1 - Ultratec Radiance Hazer (rented)
1 - Avolites Titan Mobile
1 - Dell XPS15 9550
Sound:
8 - Martin Audio MLA Mini (rented)
2 - Martin Audio MSX (rented) [not really in use, main hangs crossed at 90hz, but this is what powers the MLA Mini boxes]
2 - Martin Audio CDD Live 15
4 - Martin Audio CDD Live 12 (rented)
1 - EV ETX 12p
4 - Martin Audio WSXa
1 - Powersoft K3 DSP
1 - Behringer X32 Rack
1 - Behringer X32 Full (rented)
1 - Midas DL32 (rented)
1 - Shure QLXD24/SM58
x - Shure PSM300 & PA805 (rented) [wireless audio to delay towers]**
Truss & Stage:
1 - Stageline SL-100 (rented)
2 - 2.5m F34 Global Truss (rented)
x - Delay Towers (provided by Spirit Sound & light, I don't remember the exact equipment list)
x - 2ch Cable Ramp (rented)
**This ultimately was not a great solution for wireless audio because the IEM receivers are simply headphone jack outputs, and the gain was not able to be turned up high enough with the CDD Live 15s.
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Clean your camera lens guys, jeez.
Camera Mic : Sounds good!
Martin : Let me CLIP that for you :)
We had a not-insignificant amount of headroom too, love it
@@dougberry4674 lol forgot the important sentence for the joke #zeGermansAgain
Im proud of you Doug. Sym Circle effect :)
Great video 🌝👍❤
Very nice front light I love the lime LED on those fixtures
the Blizzard TOURNado WiMAX QZoom do not have lime, they are RGBW
Oh I was thinking of the
TOURNado™ WiMAX 7
They're mixing on a Touchmix? I would much prefer the X32 if I had the option between the two.
Nice
I think you hit the nail on the head. Some people have no idea of what sound should be. Me personally when I'm at an event and I'm not right in the action. I don't want the audio to be so loud I can't have a conversation with someone standing next to me.
The thing is that it still depends on the type of event. For this type of event, we didn't need crazy SPL, so we didn't need a crazy PA. But if it were an Excision show in the same space, we would need a PA at least 5 times the size of this one.
@@alexberry3833 Gotcha...Makes sense.
ayyy
Did you guys high pass the cdd live’s (delay)
The sub really were loud heh even loud enough to cover the bass for the delays?
👌
How was audio sent from the x32 to the delays?
Looks great guys. Great job. What fixtures were your moving heads?
Look at description.
delay was not necessary seems to me? or did they expect it to be much busier? it doesn't seem like a lot of people to me
there was a delay covering the vendor area which was super useful, but the one covering the outfield ended up being not useful. they said after they were still happy they got it, it's only purpose was because they thought more people would set up chairs over there to watch the fireworks
Martin certainly has some great sounding PA. The mla mini destoys 70% of the pa it's compared to. It also couples great with the wsxa. Are you thinking of extending the rig in the future? You could probably host some huge events with 8 boxes per side.
not with mla mini, but with wpm. we'd like to have 8 per side, and 8 wsxa. beyond that point, we're not sure if we'll get more, or start also stocking a larger PA. wpm still has it's limits, but its incredible value would be a huge asset for us in our local market first and foremost. ultimately, we will need a louder pa to meet some of the EDM riders that we want to be able to satisfy as we continue to grow as a company, but wpm is the perfect fit for all of our current events where we need something more than cdd live 15
@@dougberry4674 With edm, sub hangs are quite populer, but I think you'd get away with 8 wsxa and 16 wpm.
Sound Good To Me
What song did you guys use for soundcheck at 2:30?
Also, great gig log gents. Crowd size makes it look like the delays weren't needed, but client gets what they want!
there was a delay covering the vendor area which was super useful, but the one covering the outfield ended up being not useful. they said after they were still happy they got it, it's only purpose was because they thought more people would set up chairs over there to watch the fireworks
@@dougberry4674 but what song was it?
@@blakepence4008 haywire - let me hear that
@@dougberry4674 ok, thanks
@@dougberry4674how can you setup a gazebo and a big stage and syestem so I can learn
Why are there more people on stage that in front of it?
I forget the final turnout, something like a few thousand. But they're spread out over a large area, including behind front of house, off stage right at food trucks
Are you guys using any racks or something for lighting or just like 2 universes out the console
two universes, two dmx cables out of the console to the stage, then into one dmx splitter each, then up to the lights
How did the wsxa's hold up against the line arrays.....
Also im wondering when you had your etx18sp you used to run like 4 speakers and 2 of those. Did you run the speakers to balance the sound with your subs since the speakers would probably overpower the subs?
Or you controlled them to sound balanced?
For this kind of genre, the wsxa matched nicely. For edm, we would probably want at least 8
When we had etx, and ran 4 zlx per side, that was for coverage more than volume. In my opinion, most of the time, a single pair of ZLXs matched nicely with a single pair of etx 18sp
Anyway, of course we ran them to be balanced. Why wouldn't we?
@@dougberry4674 thanks for the reply!!!
@@dougberry4674 also i just commented on one of ricks old vids.. it was the 300 weddings per year vid. The company supplied a qsc k 12 if im not mistaken and their backup is ev zlx15 since in one of your vids you said qsc sound worse than zlx i commented saying that zlx 15 might be better because (of course) its a 15 inch speaker and the qsc is a 12. BUT rick said that k12's are better.. what do you think.....
Sorry for the comments btw im just curious
@@abielpangga6314 QSC are overrated in general. EV ETX, JBL SRX, Yamaha DZR, all outperform the QSC in loudness and general quality of sound in that price bracket.
2018: biggest defender
2019: smallest defender
I don't follow
@@dougberry4674 the covers for the cables to foh are Adam Hall Defenders
@@paradieshenne oh I've never heard them called that. They're just cable ramps
wow! four WSX218 with only one k3 amp can cover this size area ? realy good!
These subs are the WSXa, not "WSX218", maybe you meant WS218X? Anyway, these are single 18s, not 218s, I recommend you watch the video on our channel to learn more about them!
A single K3 is fully capable of blowing all 4 subs, and these 4 subs are good for this size area for SPECIFICALLY this scenario, where we didn't need a lot of SPL and the music content was extremely dynamic. To cover the same space for a very loud EDM/bass music show, we would easily need 8-12 more subs.
wow i just watch it.
They look exactly same as WS 218 so i thought it was 2x18" but yes this type of box is more powerful than classic BR type ;)
@@andrejbaca We like them a lot more than WS218X!
Actually the sound system is a lot louder than the fireworks in video
It wasn't in person though. It sounds that way because the camera mic smooths out big transients which are exactly what fireworks are. I also had set the SPL to exactly what the event manager wanted, as I literally handed him my tablet and let him set the level to what he wanted.
At 13:45 a big burst of fireworks goes off and you can hear how much louder it is than the music, as well as you can hear the music get quieter as this is a result of the camera's auto gain control for the mic reducing the gain to compensate for the loudness of the fireworks.
the reason the sound system is louder is because the fireworks are so loud that their audio just get muffled, like when the camera gets close to the subs the sound muffles cause of how loud the bass is so the camera mic effectively breaks. not literally but you get what I mean, the mic isn't high enough quality to just take in all the volume it can only cope to a certain extent before it muffles or cuts out etc.
No one else notice that the hard limiter shown at 10:20 wasn’t even on?? Lol
That was for something else, we weren't doing any processing outside of some system eq during the band, they had their own engineer with a touchmix 30
Mueves mucho la cámara
I’ve never been impressed with Martin I’ve used a lot of sound systems of my day and the only two that I like is Adamson and Myers if I had to choose Adamson all the way baby
You must not have been hearing the same Martin systems that we have. All of the MLA and Wavefront Precision systems that I've ever heard have been the best sounding line array systems I've ever heard.
@@alexberry3833 No line array sounds amazing, but they are necessary for the coverage. A well designed point source box always sounds nicer. What are your thoughts on KV2?
@@djlobb I disagree completely. MLA is the best sounding PA I've ever heard, line array or not. Vue al-12 and d&b J also sound fantastic. All 3 beat KV2 VHD5.0 IMO. MLA, and all of it's smaller brothers + Wavefront Precision don't really sound like a line array because of the processing Martin is doing.
If I showed up as a visiting engineer, with that area to be covered I'd be proper pissed, no where enough rig for the gig boys.
Don't get me wrong, the MLA is a beautiful system, just not enough of it, nearly a MLA compact sized gig with six a side, four subs a side plus front fill.
Cool band
And good light show too!
That's a valid opinion if you like, but unfortunately you would have to be pissed at the client who booked your band and budged for the production because they couldn't afford even 6 per side MLA mini, let alone compact
We were exactly on target for spl and client expectations, so if you arrived frustrated as an engineer, I would simply tell you that we did what we were hired for, within budget, and that you'd have to ask the client to raise the budget next year
Also, we had a fairly significant amount of headroom on the system when the bands engineer was mixing. The only thing we would benefit from having more/louder boxes would be a louder far field only, if the township even wants it louder out there, which I'm not totally sure they do
Did you watch the video? I thought they explained that pretty well...
hey great mixing! keep it up just add a little more of reverb on to those voices!
thanks, please watch the video at 5:19 regarding mixing
@@dougberry4674 Ohh😆 got to excited and skipped all the talking 😆 but I do like the lighting! And those Martin audio mla mini throw back very far for what they are!
@@dougberry4674 The reverbs in the TouchMix are average. I prefer the X32 ones, but then again, I prefer A&H reverbs to the X32 ones.
I've never seen a group of people make so many excuses in their videos.
Actually I'm not sure what excuses you're referring to
Yikes. Not a soul therr
Good try, but no. I believe attendance was about 4000 - 5500, just a ton of space for people to spread out, dozens of food trucks, etc etc. So only a few hundred people were in front of foh. We had nothing to do with the promotion either way though