Boiling Springs High School Mini THON 2019 DJ Gig Log
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- Опубликовано: 6 авг 2019
- March 22nd - 23rd, 2019, we DJed Boiling Springs High School Mini THON!
You can find out more information about what a Mini THON is here: www.fourdiamonds.org/mini-thon/
Gear list (all gear not owned by SLM is marked as rented):
Lighting:
8 - Chauvet Intimidator Spot 355 IRC
6 - Chauvet ColorBand Pix-M
8 - ADJ UB 6h
32 - Chauvet SlimPar 38/56
4 - Generic RGBAW Pars (rented)
2 - ADJ Haze Generator
1 - Avolites Titan Mobile
1 - Dell XPS15 9550
Sound:
2 - Martin Audio CDD Live 15
2 - EV ETX-12P [DJ monitors]
4 - Martin Audio WSXa
1 - Powersoft K3 DSP
1 - Shure QLXD24/SM58
1 - Electro Voice ND76
1 - Behringer X32 Rack
1 - Traktor S4
1 - Macbook Pro
Truss & Stage:
2 - Applied Electronics L-16 Mobile
4 - DT-PRO 4000 Crank (2 rented)
3 - 3m F34 Cosmic Truss
4 - 2.5m F34 Global Truss (rented)
2 - SQ-4122 Global Truss
2 - SQ-4120 Global Truss
6 - 8x4ft Wenger StageTek
10 - Bike rack crowd barrier
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Subs : How much clipping do u want ? Mic : Yes
that street light in the background tho 6:20
some very nice lighting design
Props to the lighting crew, it looks like tomorrowland in there and the cues are on point!
tomorrowland is worse lmao
@@Pigatto17 fair
THE LD FOR THIS SHOW IS MAGICAL
I've checked out most of your videos this is amazing this one I could tell the difference whoever's programming the lights taking it to another level
Sick as usual! Love your guys vids! Such an awesome setup and i love your custom light shows to songs really adds to the show. Good work guys!
Some comments on the second rave, which was mine:
1: It was very late in the night when people are tired
2: Other activities were scheduled at the same time
3: The crowd reaction is a clear indication that this school would enjoy a different style of music more than what I played!
It's important to recognize areas where you can improve. This school definitely responds best to sing-along, poppier, EDM for their raves. However, we play the same rave sets at each school (in 2019, that was 4 schools) and broadly tailor the 1 or 2 rave sets for all 4 schools combined. We do this so that we can give each school an as similarly high-quality experience as possible, on purpose, including a rehearsed light show for the rave. The other 3 schools respond much stronger to this style of music, as opposed to Boling Springs. So, it's very evident that in the future we need to make special preparations for this schools raves, and we will!
Our goal is to give each school an equally high-quality experience, which means, for Boiling Springs we need to do it differently than the other schools to make sure that their experience is just as great as the other schools.
Also, some schools promote the rave sections of their Mini THONs differently than others. I don't know how Boiling Springs promotes the rave specifically, but even if a school doesn't promote it as a "real" EDM part of the night, **that is not a valid excuse for us to provide an experience that the students aren't enjoying**. However, I will say that accurate promoting of what is to be expected from that section of the night is super important. Boiling Springs is the only school we have done a Mini THON at where we have had students try to request Frank Ocean songs be played during the rave, which leads me to think the student body doesn't really understand what it means when it says "rave" on their schedule for the night. This is backed up further by noticing how the other schools respond to the raves when they are all expecting to hear an EDM heavy part of the night.
Doug Berry or just be better DJs and learn how to read a crowd and adopt your set accordingly. LMFAO
@@DJSolstice I feel like you have the perspective that were trying to be mobile DJs and bring a mobile DJ experience. We're not. LMFAO
We're hired, by the student committee, to bring an EDM experience to a Mini THON for their rave. We literally are not reading the crowd, or taking requests. We're putting on a show for the rave, as asked for my the client. It just so happens at this school, they need a different crafted experience than the others, like I said. LOL 🤣😂😅🙄🤔🤣🤣
Those martins are insane!!
Bro
Your lights are on fire🔥🔥
Bro your lighting guy has all of those songs memorized to a T that’s insane.
Absolutely crazy stuff man 😫🙌🏾
Yay another gig log 😃
Pretty!
Would be interesting to see how you have set up your busking Show file.
Footage starting at 5:08 is awesome
yo boys, do you have remember where you put what light stuff... I would love to use your Setup with little changes like spots for Confetti cannons, Flame Jets and CO2 jets. Greetings from Switzerland. ;)
Super smal and very fast created Showfile😅... and then this great Show😍👍🏻... a huge compliment!!! ... I love to see your videos, so thank you for all... best regards from Germany
Saludos desde Montevideo Uruguay marcos Dj
I really love your videos!!!!
I'm a LD in a Club here in Munich and they have the same Chauvet Spot Mhs. They're pretty cool but I'm very disappointed by the Zoom
hey guys, again nice work on this gig. I also have a few hornloaded subs. I have tried some different setups whit my subs and 1 of my favourite is to lay 1 of your subs flat on its right side and the athor one on its left side and put them together with de air ports in the middel. this setup will increase your output by a lot. never done an accurate RTA meting but you can here the diference easaly. I would like your opinions on the martin subs in this configuration.
the only reason we aren't doing a center block of 4 is for sightlines with the 2ft tall stage, we know that is best acoustically. beyond that, alex and i go back and forth deciding if we would get a better result with them on their sides, with two pairs of horn mouths coupled, but for this series of mini thons in 2019 we decided to deploy them in a line configuration, as you can see
What is the song at 12:10?
Nice intro ! Dimitri vegas and lime mike❣️ plus quintino ❣️
Great Vlog, what's the song ID @ 15:08 please? Many thanks 🔥🔥🔥
DJ Wolve electric elephants jay hardway
What’s the “bass song” as you put it called in the beginning?
Shades - Two One Six
SLM Entertainment what is the song in 18:05. tnx
I am impressed. Better LJ than on Parookaville. Next step is Video walls 😉
Why do not they use timecode? I think it's pretty hard to push the light manual over time. And yes, I'm a Serato/SoundSwitch User and DJ/LJ all allone :(
timecode takes much more time to prepare and is quite limiting on the DJs. The least limiting way to do timecode would be with showkontrol but that would require CDJ's and it is still limiting on the DJ. If programmed right, its really not hard at all to manually run a light show like that. I can tell you I have alot more fun manually running light shows. Also if you only run timecode, you look like a bitch to other LD's that do it manually haha.
Operating a light show like this is relatively easy and a lot of fun, if you're musically gifted. Really it's just about getting muscle memory with the interface, aka the Titan Mobile in this case, and the programming.
@@alexberry3833 First I have to say I'm sorry for that question, I think you get under every RUclips video the same questions about lighting :D
I think the discussion about timecode prepared light shows and manually pushing light is the same discussion as switching and automatic cars. In the future we drive electro cars and switching is obsolete. Same will be with light desks.
And yes, manually is more fun :D (and even more if you can trigger sound samples with it)
13:25 music?
Me gusto mucho su producción !! Saludos desde México!
Single power amp drives all them subs? Dammmmm
Whats the song called you played in 17:00min? ..and the one following?
Merk & Kremont - Turn it Around
The one following is JOYRYDE - Hari Kari
Are you going to make a tutorial of the avolites pc wing
tutorial on how to use it? no
video explaining our personal workflow? yes!
@@dougberry4674 okay
can I get an id for the song @ 0:50 I love that wook sound 🤤
Shades - Two One Six
Quality bass music
Can i get all drops!?
SLM A regresado
Do you guys eq your subs to do more 30-40hz or you only eq your speakers.
Well a low cut on the subs and down from 80hz or 100hz crossover (i think atleast)
What is the song on 5:53?
Merijn Derksen dimitri Vegas and like mike - Arcade
I'm not being funny here honestly - this is a serious question guys - have you ever run into an issue where somebody has had a photosensitive epilepsy episode, whether they knew about it before or they discovered it at one of your gigs? ... or is it really not that much of a risk? I sometimes use a good amount of FLASHY FLASHY in my lighting programs (nowhere near as much as you folks though!) & occasionally I pause to think.. hmm what if... ?
Anyhoo.. great to see it's not *all* preprogrammed :D
we have had maybe one or two events where we were told ahead of time to keep strobing either to a minimum, or none at all, usually for a specific attendee. when that happens we always talk with the event organizers about the severity of the attendee just so we have a full understanding of what we can and can not do, but then we always play it even safer than we are told to
otherwise, if we are told nothing ahead of time, we have a section in our event contract which says, verbatim, "Lighting fixtures at the Event may strobe", and if they continue to tell us nothing in regards to strobing, and they sign the contract, we proceed. of course, if an attendee were to have an incident, we would stop any hint of strobing from that point on in the event unless the event organizers specifically tell us that it is okay to continue strobing. also, on the flip side, if we are told not to strobe ahead of time, we change that line to say "Lighting fixtures at the Event will not strobe"
overall, that line of the contract is more just to protect us in a scenario where we were not warned ahead of time *and* someone were to try to put the liability on us if an incident were to occur. because of that line in our contract, it is the liability falls on the event host
@@dougberry4674 That's really cool to know thanks Doug! That's essentially what my booking contracts say too :) In any case of anything untoward happening within my line of sight, up come the lights (gently) until it's been established it's safe to go on, or adjust the show accordingly. Responsible operating - you can't say you get that with sound2light ;-)
Sick lighting guys! Is that all pre programmed or do you activate the different scenes?
they don't pre program it nor trigger scenes. They busk the show.
Stuff like colors, movements, and intensity triggers are all separately pre-programmed. That stuff is then triggered in real time during the show. So like you'd select a color, then a movement, and then in order to get the lights to flash or produce any light you have to manually make that happen the entire time. Whether it's pressing a button that triggers a dimmer chase or group fixture flash like in the 19:22 clip, or moving a fader like at 8:53. That smooth fade up of the spots is me moving a fader in real time, controlling the intensity.
Have you thought about having delays by front of house rather than blasting the front? May give better vocal feedback at the back.
We want it blasting at the front, the people who want it loud go to front row. Still, "blasting" has a negative connotation, so I want to be clear that it is not too loud. Clean audio vs distorted audio will sound like totally different volume levels at a given dB, so where you might only want 100dBa of distorted audio, like QSC, with clean audio you easily are wanting 110dBa, like Martin Audio
A good way to say this is that 100dBa on QSC "sounds" loud, but 110dBa on Martin "is" loud. For example, even though QSC sounds loud at 100dB, it's really not that hard to talk over, but with Martin, when it starts to "sound" loud around 110-115dB, it's extremely difficult to talk over. At the risk of sounding cheesy, it's like you're surrounded / enveloped in the music. If you were to run QSC at 110-115db, your ears would be ringing for like a week. I have never gone home from one of our shows with Martin Audio with ringing ears, ever.
Also, delays at FoH pointed forward is never a good idea for tons of acoustic reasons
Doug Berry yeah I have to agree with you there Doug, I’ve been using some very nice Meyer speakers and they are exceptionally clean. I think it’s really just different applications because I’ve assisted with some installs at a theatre auditorium where we used fill speakers away from the main arrays to keep volume output at front lower. I guess for EDM you do want it nice and loud at front. We did some stuff with line array and found if we had front fills we could actually turn down the rest of the array saving a few DB.
I loved this lighting, it killed it. But there were too many times where it was fully dark. It almost seemed if that the DJ had a spot on him it would have been an easy solution to the problem. It just feels like the DJ is just generic and not this "holy guy" playing the music, The light shape in back I felt like if that was treated like the DJ's logo would have given him more of that presents as in most of the show you can't even see him. All that aside I'm sure if I was there I would have loved the crap out of it, I'm just being critical and throwing in my 2 cents to give you guys some feedback and for future shows. Keep up the good work!
Also holy crap, those subs must of killed it!
Thanks for the compliments! Using complete darkness is totally intentional and an artistic choice by me, at least most of the time. We don't light the DJ because we don't want him to be a holy guy playing the music. We want the focus on the light show and the music instead. The diamond in the back is a basic version of the logo for the Four Diamonds fund, which is where the money raised at a Mini-THON is donated to.
what are these subs? Greetings from Germany
Martin audio WSXa passive (x4)
Amp: powersoft k3 dsp
I just noticed that one of the faders on your mixing station app is cranked all the way up, is that the main LR or is it something else?
Main LR. The entire rig, subs and tops, takes higher than -18dB of signal to reach max output, and I prefer keeping my input faders at a reasonable level, vs Main LR at 0 and the inputs high. It also makes managing feedback easier as I only have to remember the max fader level for the mic, not the relationship between the mic fader + main LR fader.
Hey Doug, try using some generic claypaky stormy CC it will give you full audience blinders.
Try using 6 of them first😉
symetric circle on avo omg :D
Martin = best club/ concert subs on the planet
Wow
Do you do live lighting or presets?
All live, we have a video up about our workflow on our channel
Whats the song at 2:52 ?
Guys, film more of the setting up gear part as you did before on this channel. Not this way that in 25min video - 3min is setup and the rest of the video is just the show itself.
We would love to. The truth is we used to be super slow setting up, and part of the reason was we would film. We focus a lot on working faster now, which means less set up footage :(
@@dougberry4674 That's a shame.. Otherwise great work as always, keep it up! ;)
Start the vlogs off at your house
Hi I'm French and I admire your work
I am a young dj wedding and birthday
What is the reference of your lyres, led bar and subwoofer?
Can you put French subtitles in the settings?
Thanks, have a good day
Music at 2:51
Setup looks good but TURN THOSE SUBS HORIZANTALY!
If your reason is aesthetics, I agree. But this is the best middle ground for performance vs aesthetics
If your reason is for better acoustic performance, Alex and I debate the pros and cons of deployment methods
Why should we turn them horizontally?
Nice. But please please don’t film the sound check. We hear nothing it’s too load for your microphone.
Sorry man, but if you don't like watching soundcheck then just skip that part. Personally I love hearing that kind of distortion, because it gives me a representation of how loud the event was without me having to crank my speakers. You can also learn a lot about how the subs performed by listening to the distortion.
Alex Berry at the location you are right. But depending which phone you are using, that’s often too load to be useful in the video. I don’t like apple not the iPhones have always nice sound recordings in the video especially in loud concerts.
But very nice design and concept.
@@michaelschneider3446 We're not using a phone to record the gig logs, we're using a Canon 60D DSLR which consistently and predictably starts distorting at around 120dB. So depending on how much distortion there is in the video, you can get a pretty good idea of how loud the event was.
And for GODS SAKE, do some MC-ing! That could have saved it
No
The same lighting looks as always but nothing really new
I take that as a compliment! That's like going to a band or a DJ and saying "man, your performances are always so consistent!". Like that's big compliment. Our Mini-THON events are like a mini tour for us, and we want that tour to be consistent like any other tour. We do new stuff for new tours. Unfortunately, our clients love this rig so much that we don't get to do much innovation with it. It's a double edged sword.
Alex Berry I think it could of had more looks because the moving heads never color chase but they only fade or snap dimmer wise.
@@thomasgriffin3474 That's like saying "every song I listen to has drums in it, like it's always the same with the kick and high hats and what not." Also, personally I'm not a fan of color chasing with color wheel fixtures, looks extremely tacky IMO.
Alex Berry every night club does color chases with color wheel fixtures everyday
@@thomasgriffin3474 You say that as if because they do it, that means it automatically looks good. I think it looks horrible, if what I'm thinking of matches what you're talking about. You also say that as if that one thing would take our light show from 0% good to 100% good. I like to use color as a means to set a vibe, aka I feel like this song is a blue song, or a green and yellow one, or whatever. This idea is very common in productions that I think are actually good. There's a reason the guys doing the light shows in clubs like you talk about aren't out touring with artists.
130+db is suicide on your hearing. I hope you and everyone around you had ear protection while you were testing that system
Please understand the difference between dBc and dBa. It is a very important distinction.
@@dougberry4674 I actually missed your note on the video about that reading being dBC. Only saw the previous note in the previous scene about it being dBA.
130dbc actually isn't insane lol. If that was dBa, that would be insane.
@@ihatesigningupforsht The dBA number up within 1 meter of the subs was actually also influenced by the bass SPL. 140dB at 50hz will register as 110dBA.
110db(A) is still extremely loud looking at SPL Exposure time for noise guidelines they recommend around a maximum of 2mins of exposure. Now of course that was only peak SPL at 1 meter but still even at the back of the room 100db(A) is still only 15mins of exposure.
I love EDM but these rave sets are trash. And it shows by the reaction of the students. A true DJ would migrate to a different style to keep the kids engaged. If the lights don’t match, whatever, as long as they arrive and you do a decent job of executing them it would be a way more successful event
Wow, are you a mobile DJ? It's an EDM rave not a pop music rave, the kids aren't enjoying? Wow rewatch the video +3db "inputer"