Cedar Cliff High School Mini THON 2016 DJ Gig Log: Part 2
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- February 12th - 14th, Cedar Cliff High School had their 3rd annual Mini THON! We do lots of stuff for Cedar Cliff, and they're always pretty cool events that we make sure to film. That's why the majority of the gig logs on our channel are Cedar Cliff gigs.
Disclaimer about the rigging: The client hired a rigger separate from us to handle everything which would require a certification, especially the truss suspension. We consulted with them about our ideas, design, objectives, etc. Consultations were also made with an aerial construction specialist, a certified rigging company, two certified independent riggers, a structural engineer, and a mechanical engineer. Last year, the rigging was done very non-conventionally. This year, it is to my understanding that this is virtually as conventional as it gets in the major aspects. Feel free to ask questions or make comments, just know that we are not 100% knowledgeable about this subject and if your question or comment is too complex, we might not answer it. Also note that this video is not a tutorial. If you want to suspend truss at your events, do research, hire a rigger, get certified, etc etc, don't just base off of what was done in this video because there's still the chance that some of the things we did were specific to our production.
As for music during the gig, we don't have a track list for the entire night or a set list or anything like that, so don't bother asking us to give you that in the comments. If you want to know what a specific song is that you hear in the video, check first to see if it was already given somewhere else in the comments. If nobody asked about the song you want to know, then go ahead and make a comment asking for that song. Or try and use Shazam.
Also, in the video, we don't talk about what gear we use. However, there's a gear list in the description. If you have any questions about the equipment we used, feel free to ask us in the comments.
The intro song is Canon by Overwerk.
Gear list (all gear not owned by SLM is marked as rented):
Lighting:
6 - Chauvet Intimidator Spot 350 LED (4 rented)
4 - Chauvet Intimidator Spot 355Z IRC (4 rented)
12 - Chauvet ColorBand Pix-M (8 rented)
38 - Chauvet SlimPar 56 (rented)
22 - Chauvet SlimPar 38
10 - Generic RGBAW-UV Wireless LED Par Cans (rented)
6 - Generic RGBAW Wireless LED Par Cans (rented)
4 - Generic RGBAW-UV Wireless LED Bars (rented)
4 - Generic RGBAW Wireless LED Bars (rented)
8 - Chauvet SlimPar PRO RGBA (rented)
2 - ADJ Haze Generator
2 - Chauvet Xpress 512 (1 rented)
1 - Livid Instruments OHMRGB Slim
1 - Dell XPS15 9550
Sound:
2 - Danley Sound Labs SM80
4 - EV ZLX-12P [2 front fill, 2 DJ monitors]
8 - SoundBridge XYON 7218SWX (rented)
2 - Powersoft K10 (rented) [subs]
1 - Crown XLS1000 [tops]
1 - Wireless SM58 (rented) [main]
1 - Wired SM58 [backup]
1 - QSC TouchMix-8 (rented)
1 - Traktor S4
Truss & Stage:
2 - XT-CRANK18FT-500 (rented)
2 - Applied Electronics L-16 Crank-up Lift (rented)
2 - DT-PRO 4000 Crank
4 - 1 Ton, 20ft Manual Chain Hoist (rented)
2 - 1 Ton, 30ft Manual Chain Hoist (rented)
2 - 3.5m F34 Global Truss
4 - 2.5m F34 Global Truss (rented)
6 - 2m F34 Global Truss (4 rented)
2 - 1m F34 Global Truss (rented)
4 - 2m F31 Global Truss
2 - SQ-4122 Global Truss
2 - SQ-4120 Global Truss
80x20ft Black Premier Drape
8 rolls of 3x25ft window screen
20 sections of 4x4ft stage (rented)
80ft bike rack crowd barrier (rented)
Here's the link to the video where Doug describes the technical lighting issues: • CC Mini THON '16 DMX P...
As usual, we don't take credit for any of the songs heard in this video. All rights for all songs go to their respective owners.
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You gig keep getting bigger and bigger. Hopefully you get a festival soon. I would love to see the production that goes into that
Me too!
The drapes make the setup even more awesome... great gob guys
Job*
The diamond really added to the hype
+funch yeeee and it's the logo for the foundation this event is for, pretty snazzy huh
+Doug Berry most people don't see that kind of stuff during someone's set
all this for a highschool dance?? SHEEEESHHH!!!! I'M IN THE WRONG CITY!!!!
+DJ TAILSPIN YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I like how you are waiting for the the drop 20:52 and then this hell of a overdrive (bwrwrwr bwrwrwrwr bwrwrw bwrwr)
In Germany u start a Event like this u get roundabout 4000 paying Guests in this Room...
Das problehm ist: wer macht so etwas in deutschland. Ich habe noch nie von einem event dieser Größe gehört. Ich persönlich veranstalte auch events aber nicht in der größe. ich habe manchmal nur 2 mh's da und habe dann teilweise mehr gäste als bei diesem event hier da waren
Ja stimmt schon sowas in Sporthallen gibt es bei uns nicht mehr so... Schade drum
Keine Chance. Mittlerweile haben wir aufgeholt bezüglich der Technik, und dementsprechend sind auch die Preise Gestiegen. Schulen Buchen uns schon gar nicht mehr. Zumindest nicht das Große Setup. Wir haben teilweise bei Gartenpartys mehr Equip als bei Schulveranstaltungen.
Als Mitglied von der Bühnen Technik Gruppe bei uns an der Schule merk ich, dass selbst eine kleinere Bühne für den Abistreich eher schlecht als recht ist. Schade eigentlich. Nicht mal Moving Heads sind erlaubt
@@philippegladen1525 Gute Technik an Schulen ist immer so eine Sache wenn sich irgendeine Schüller Gruppe darum kümmert. Es gibt Schüller die wissen echt was sie da tun, und wiederum andere die nicht recht wissen was sie da grade zurecht pfuschen
That intro lightshow... so amazing!
Renault party?
That is one of the sweetest intros I've seen for a rig of that size and type.
Simply amazing setup. You'd put some nightclubs to shame with both sound system & light setup & design. Looking forward to seeing some more gig logs from you guys keep it up :)
Thanks!
Would have been cool to incorporate a couple of chauvet geysers into your intro light show. Nice work fellas!
+Dj Woo Pig
exactly what i thought ! hehe
This is sooooooooo awesome! You guys should start your own SLM Dance Festival!!!!!! The lights show is simple superb! I look forward to more of your gig logs!!
Started from the bottom, now it looks like tomorrowland, or ultra music festival ahah! Great job guys!
The light show was great! You deserve a better and bigger audience, definitely
+ZERO Productions Thanks!
AS A 16 YEAR OLD WHO RUNS A DJ COMPANY AND DJS SCHOOL EVENTS JUST LIKE YOU GUYS IK THE PAIN WHEN ALL THE KIDS LEAVE AND GO IN THE GYM, I FELT IT IN MY SOUL ALL THE HARD WORK AND PLANNING TAKEN AWAY SO QUICK.
Me too, also couse there are so few people, in my school there are ever like 5 times more and theres not a huge stage like their
by far, my favourite lighting set up you've ever done!
Wow. That is a MASSIVE setup! Incredible!!
Thanks!
******* INTRO SONG IS : OVERWERK - Canon *******
GET SHAZAM on your phones people !!!
+EttEzioB lBoiZ ur our hero
Your welcome guys !
Hehe it must be long and ennoying to have to read every questions asked ( but even though you guys do well at that ! i thought i would come in and help hahahaha
+EttEzioB lBoiZ the issue is when shazem doesn't work for u. Like at minute 19:51. Hate to do this but what is that song.
+DJ Drawgz I know man !! hahaha in that cas i ask !! lol
+DJ Drawgz That's "Ferry Corsten - Punk (Arty Rock-N-Rolla Mix)"
7:45 most high schoolers just don't appreciate true genius, who would choose sports over this?!
+Tech_Geek97 The struggle...
The light intro gave me goosebumps. Nicely done
you could use some co2 jets
nice idea
@@aero4865 its more haze and fog you need to watch out for with fire systems, co2 cannons are fine
I'm just blown away by what you guys can do. Really incredible. Please don't be offended by this, but how in the hell did you guys learn to do all this at such a young age? I mean, from rigging lights, programming lights, sound, DJing, and even the business aspect of it all. Very impressive to me. Much respect and much success to all of you.
Thanks! We've learned how to do all of this from the inspiration to want to do cool events. And since we thought, and still think, concert style events are what's cool, that's what we spent a lot of time learning how to do.
Great video. Looking forward to Dougs technical one.
best light show I ever seen on RUclips👌👍
You guys have great ideas for the stage, i would just recommend to Get a bigger table, and some leds screens or tv screens of 50 inches for the visuals
Now that your setups are so much bigger, please still continue to show up some more of you talking like you used to do as well as some technical things. Keep growing!!!
+Paul Cabin sorry, we'll try!
+Doug Berry. Damn!!!!!! Hats off to you guys ,never cease to amaze me over the years
Oh and by the way I would really like to have a better understanding of your show Xpress programming technique ,eg. How you set "your" Dimmer/flash combinations ,please ( I tried to copy it on my rig and blew a fuse in my brain)
Im interested in seeing how the truss was ceiling mounted!
they use chain hoists
The light thing in the middle is like the U at the Ultra Miami Stage. Good work guys. Probs to you;)
This Hall has enough space for about 1000 guests. Why were only about 100-200 people there? I mean if this was made at my school i would go completely crazy and invite every person i know. Also: You guys rock!
+Alexej Kinovic i think there were about 300 people, we're not sure why more students don't come. maybe it's a lack of promotion or something
wow you guys have grown since I last viewed your videos! I also do mobile entertainment and man all them DMX cords lol I been wanting SLIM PARS for a while now and just spent $200 on the new ones with the USB D-Fi that replaces DMX cords. thanks for the inspiration!
Know that's what you call a setup and a light show ! amazing work guys !
+Jay-Rhys kemble Thanks!
Wow guys you just keep getting better!! keep up the awesome work!! :) ps. rest in peace headphones..
Awesome setup guys 👌 love the addition of the curtain backdrop. The up lighting is on point
Love watching you guys grow!!! Amazing job. You're my first pick if I start working Festivals towards the north.
Thanks, and sounds good!
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This is a fire set up
This deserves a far larger crowd
holy shit..... What I wouldn't do to work for you guys.... Keep it up SLM, you never fail to impress!
Thanks!
Amazing job gentleman!!! You guys need to be doing BIGGER productions than high school dances!!!
Awesome production quality guys, keep up the good work! Cheers from Texas
That diamond tho 💎
Does Panasonic work as loud as that Or do I need bigger ones and I need more lights
Such setup! Much wow!😱😍 Can you like make a video on all the scenes you used with a video of what each scene is doing? I know it's a lot i ask but i just learned how to program in daslight but I don't know what to programe but strobes.... so please help me start out or if you could give me de savefile? Would pay for it if you want too! Anyway thanks in advance! Love the gig logs especially the mini Thons !✌🏻😎
estaria bien si pusieseis una lista con los nombres en la descripción en un futuro :)
What is the song (or maybe mashup?) for the opening lightshow? slm entertainment
Great Setup Guys!!!! Keep it up!!!!
You put in so much work and so little people were there.
We would deploy an enitre music festival regardless if 50 people come, if that's what the client asks for
How do you get the money to do that?
@@twinmotioncommotion2749 I guess that's a question for a client, we just work with their budgets
Looks great! Maybe you could try to create a little more 'contrast' in your lightshow, like the movingheads another colors than the pars. I think it would even look better than it does now! :)
+Milan The problem is, we don't have that much space on our live window in showxpress, otherwise we would do loads of color stuff. right now, we have space for 8 colors, and 8 color combos. when we upgrade to something else, we definitely will expand our lightshow in areas like that.
+Doug Berry Nice, another question: do you guys wear hearing protection? Might be quite useful when you would still like to hear in 10 years :P
Holy crap.
Finally!! been waitin on this video. best stage yet!
That light show looks great! You must've been hazing up that room for hours.
+Aaron Patchett Only about 30 minutes actually till it was pretty nicely hazed up. Used two ADJ Haze Generators. We ran the hazers during all of the dancing sections of course though, they had their AC running really hard.
Ah not bad! I need to get myself a hazer but really struggling on which one to buy.
WOW!! What a setup.
Once you start getting bigger, I suggest buying a GrandMA2 onPC command wing and a GrandMa2 onPC Fader wing. I use this at my events and it makes programming very easy.
+Poisonous Game They're too expensive, and I don't really need the complexity of gma2. Looking into Avolites though, and Martin has some nice hardware but I don't like the software. Dot2 is neat too, very quick to get a show going, but a little too simple
I think Avolites would suit you well with the events that you're running. I've tried the Dot2 and it looks nice from the outside but it is like a kids toy compared to most light controllers.
+Poisonous Game It is a bit simple, but really fast and you can easily get some fine results very quickly. The problem is the price. If it were substantially cheaper than Avo, I would get it. However, I can just get Avo for the same price as Dot2. I still like it, and many people don't need massive amounts of functionality. They just want to do a decent show. Still, I wouldn't buy one unless there was a large market to rent it out. These were my thoughts on Dot2 as of 9 months ago, they're generally the same today:
"I'm actually already fluent with the OnPc version of Dot2. I'm also pretty comfortable with Grandma2 onPc. In my experience, the dot2 onpc is similar in terms of features and performance, but vastly superior in terms of workflow. There are some missing features that hardcore GMA2 users won't be able to sacrifice.
I don't know the full list of everything that's missing. I programmed a show in Gma2 OnPc, and then again in Dot2 OnPc, and these are the missing features that I noticed in order of least important to most important...
1) Multiple user accounts. I don't care about this at all though.
2) MATricks. This is a bit of a bummer, but not really a big deal for me. As far as I used it, MATricks just made programming a bit faster, but I can do everything MATricks does manually/a tad slower as long as it's not a massive show with many hundreds of lights.
3) Sufficient pixel mapping programming. This is a little bit of a bigger bummer. I rarely do any pixel mapping, but I know there will be some time in the future where I'll want this feature. Most of the time, this doesn't bother me though.
4) Custom effects generation. This is a big deal to me. It's pretty self explanatory as to why. Although, the preset effects they have made are sufficient enough, and you can still change a lot of the parameters. I can get everything I want out of it, but I still want custom generation. Furthermore, I've heard that they're going to be adding a custom effects generator, very similar to GMA2, later on.
I know there are more missing features, but I didn't notice them. Or, if I did notice them, they didn't impact me whatsoever.
As for missing hardware features, they're all 100% negative that the Dot2 doesn't have them. Things like a built in keyboard, UPS, motorized faders, etc. One thing the Dot2 does having going for it, is size and weight.
Anyway, there are two big reasons why I would get a Dot2 over something like a GrandMa2 Light (even though I would rather have the Light). First, is size and weight. I don't want to take a massive desk that weighs close to 100lbs to mobile events. I want something super easy to move around and lift into my car by myself. Also, at a previous gig, I literally had to climb a ladder up like 4 meters to get into the FoH. I would not be able to even attempt that with something like the Light, but with a Dot2 (even the XL versions), I could probably find a way. Furthermore, I currently only have a home office. Unpacking and repacking a dot2 will be way easier than a Light. The second reason, price. Simple. If I, for some reason, lost my Dot2 in a volcano, I could buy two more and would still be better off than I would have been if I bought a GMA2 Light."
+Doug Berry I'll admit that the size and weight of the dot2 Is great, but with concerts and most other events I do, It would be hard and/or impossible for me to do my jobs without those features and I would spend more to make programming and/or busking easier and faster
Poisonous Game I'd rather just get Avo for the same price, size, and weight
What's your plans for this year. You should get some chauvet geysers, that'd look cool.
What licences do you have to have to do a gig like this?
great gig log :)
Seriously amazing set up! Can't help but think it looks like a little over kill for 300 kids...
Amazing show as usual guys.. would you ever consider sharing your showXpress lightshow file? I'd love to see how you do your programming and layering and how you manage to fit everything on one universe. Cheers!
AWESOME!!! That light-show looks fantastic 😘 I love the diamond and the idea with the uplit drapes in the background.
the only "bad" thing I noticed is, that you should black out those status-leds on the lights on the diamond with electrical tape or something...
+Michael Goldmann Yaaaa you're the first one to point it out in the comments! After we put the diamond up, we immediately were all like "Damn, should have taped those off." But it was too late... :(
Fortunately, it's only noticeable when the room is blacked out. When there are lights on, you couldn't really see the status LEDs that well anyway, so it wasn't tooooo big of a deal. Still a bummer and real frustrating to look at, especially because it's such an easy fix that we just didn't have time for.
+Doug Berry it's not that huge of a deal 😄 the rest of the lights balanced out that little issue ;) how long did it take you to program all of this? and how many channels did you use?
+Michael Goldmann Took around 10 - 12 hours total, the chases with the slimpars alone took like 5 hours because I have to make them manually. I can get fine results with showxpress, but it takes forever to get the show to a point that I'm satisfied with.
Two universes. took up 1014 channels. I wanted to run the pix-ms on 42 channel mode so they could be pixel mapped, but that would have increased our channel count to 1398 and I wasn't confident in my ability to find a third showxpress dongle in time. Also would have added probably an hour or two to programming time.
+Dean Mraz shhhhhhh we fixed that
+Doug Berry that's an awful lot of dmx channels 😵 "I can get fine results..." does that mean you would rather recommend an other interface/lighting desk?
excuse me if it is too much to ask, but how much did you charge for the gig? I don't think, that all this rented gear is that affordable. you can pn me if that makes you feel more confident :) thanks ^^
This dj set its my life!
Fantastic Job. Would love to see some Co2 soon.
Wow ... Nice Lighting Programming Doug !!!
+Fernando Sacher thanks! there are lots of things that aren't perfect, so it's frustrating for me to look at. glad you like it!
+Doug Berry No Problem,You guys are such inspiration to me and too many others! , I am trying to
convince some High Schools to make bigger setups like yours possible, I probably
ended up getting all the stuff rented just because I cannot afford all at this
moment. To have an idea I got a used Martin Atomic 3000 for like 900 bucks here where i live, but
will be great if I found someone interested in make one setup like this
possible, I expect to make this soon as possible.
+Fernando Sacher good luck using an atomic 3k in a high school, one of those will take up a whole circuit of electricity
+Doug Berry i will probably use in low power mode hahaha ! but i read
in the manual they pull like 8 amps (not too much power) because mine is
the version that uses the 230v lamp ! here most pro lighting use 230v ! did you guys still use the Canon 60D do record the setup ? i was asking because the image in this event seems to be better than 2015 mini thon ! now i will stop to annoying you !
You Guys are AWESOME!
Thanks!
Ok few questions because Shazam isnt working its magic.
1) What remix of "Go Deep" was that 8:02?
2) How did you get the song nightmare by kevv and MajorMotions, I cant find it anywhere (If thats even what the song is, shazam kinda worked.)
Are those red lights on the diamond and various other places IR transmitters to sync to the controller in the back or something?
no they're just signaling that they're receiving dmx signal. if they were not flashing, aka if they were off, then that's a sign that the fixture is not recieving dmx signal
NICE SET UP AND LIGHTS SHOW, BUT HOW DO YOU GUYS DILL WITH FIRE DETECTORS WHEN USING SMOKE AND HAZE
+David Ruiz there are a lot of ways, google it and research some. the most simple answer is that it depends on the fire detection system that the venue has, and some venues won't let you use haze
+Doug So no straight answer ether the venue let you or not🤔👍🏼
At 24:00 is there a problem with one of those crappy China knock offs on the diamond ?
+Nic Pagan kinda. those lights are actually battery powered, and we forgot to plug them in, so during the rave all of those led bars were at like 1% battery because they had been running on battery power for the whole event. as you can see, one of the bars ran out of battery and turned off. after the rave, we realized what happened, plugged in the bars on the diamond, then that one bar came back on and all was well
+Doug Berry noooooooo battery powered lighting in the air !!!😂😂😂
+Nic Pagan Well they're plugged in! we thought so anyway... The china pars are also battery powered, but we plug them in too
+SLM Entertainment why don't you use line-array speakers?
+dj costumize Because we don't like line arrays. But beyond that, we already own Danley SM80s which are WAY more than enough mid/high for this venue, line array rentals are really expensive, they don't sound as good as our SM80s, they weigh too much, take too much power, and don't provide any benefits over the SM80s. The only thing that line arrays have over our SM80s is variable vertical coverage, but they lose out in every other category.
Did you timecode the intro that is crazy
+Renigadecrew nope, just rehearsed and done live. had two operators. Dillon was controlling moving heads, I was controlling everything else.
+Doug Berry how did you connect two consols?
+Franko Benić there weren't two. one computer, two universes, one midi controller
Doug Berry Thats awesome how many dmx channels did you use
+Renigadecrew 1014 channels. I wanted to run the pix-ms on 42 channel mode so they could be pixel mapped, but that would have increased our channel count to 1398 and I wasn't confident in my ability to find a third showxpress dongle in time :(
Awesome video guys, just wondering what the song around the 5:30 mark is? Thanks :)
Do you program your lighting shows before the production or do you just busk it on the night? looks AMAZING though!! :)
+Jack hall well it took me about 10 - 15 hours to program this, but operating is busked. not songs have pre recorded shows or anything. everything you see is triggered live via pre programmed scenes like colors, hits, movements, chases, etc.
I see! well it looks fantastic :)
In wich high is the "diamond" mounted ?
+Nictec Veranstaltungstechnik i don't quite understand your question
+Doug Berry He means in wich hight it was hanging xD
+DeeJayCraftler Thanks English is not my first language :D
+Nictec Veranstaltungstechnik haha, the top point of the diamond is around 17ft. the bottom point of the diamond is around 9ft
+Doug Berry thx
Do you have a list of songs I can use for winter formal
What is the rent to own ratio of equipment you all use. It looks great from a lighting perspective
+Dalton Kruppenbacher Equipment list in the description details what we rented.
► Dj R3INA thats whats up SLM doing it Big !
Any reason with all the stress you use , that you don't warm the truss to add to the effect
+619biggestfan didn't feel like having really nice cable management, plus we were out of pars to do it anyway. I wanted to though!
Yeah sweet, with all the haze you use it would look really nice!
I run alot smaller of a set up and my favourite is the truss warming
what software do you use to run lights? (Jands Vista is a very good piece of software to use )
They use showxpress aka sweetlight or quickDMX
Does the first song have a name if so can anyone tell me the name please
Lucky even got to have some trance. ....
WOW....very impressive! This looks like a $5k event. Keep going strong guys!
What do you guys charge for a event like this? You guys must be charging a lot with all of the gear rentals and crew to do an event this big. I know a lot of entertainment guys/DJ's don't like to talk about price in the open, but it gets me wondering as they did raise a heck of a lot of money...
how many dmx scenes did you have to have to program the light show
+Leon Sutliffe about 100
I am forthing out on how good this is! Rate it hardcore :)
Why is there red lights on the diamond centre peace ?
+Conner Spence those are signal indicator lights, we realized immediately after raising the diamond that we should have probably gaff taped them off because they're so ugly :(
on the other hand, if we had done that, we wouldn't be able to troubleshoot whether or not they were getting signal, so oh well
Just a quick question. Iv watched a few of your gig logs and was wondering how come you never use anything else than PARs and moving heads. what about strobes and laser etc?
there's no reason to use more variety of things if it already looks good. the fewer different kinds of fixtures, the easier it is to work with. fyi, we have strobe-like fixtures on this rig. they're not literally "strobes", but if they're bright like strobes, and they do the same thing as strobes, then there ya go
the reason we don't use real strobes is because of electricity requirements
the reason we don't use lasers is because we don't have any (yet) and there aren't any to rent in the area
Doug Berry makes sense thanks for the answer really enjoy your content
what is the name of the lighting board
Why no beams? All the moving heads are spots
+Tom Prehn don't want beams, not versatile enough. plus, for nicer gear, i usually prefer the look of a tight spot vs a beam. hybrids are cool too, but i would usually have them in spot mode
awesome guys! great gig, great vid
whats your intro song called?
How do you guys set the volume? Are you slightly increasing it during the gig? Just like most party's?
+TheGamesBond-007 Kind of, although not really. For homecomings and other normal events or concerts my answer would be yes to increasing the volume over time, but for this event because it was so long, I did it differently.
This is kind of weird to explain, but if you take the floor space between the crowd barriers and the wall of the room with the doors that people enter into the gym, divide it into thirds, and think of where the dividing line would be between the first and second sections, around that point is generally where I would aim for around 100dBA for the majority of the dancing sessions. I chose that point because that's generally where the center of the crowds of people were. That's about the lowest you can comfortably go in a school gym at that distance and still have the rest of the gym sounding good and not having the crowd noise overpowering the music. During the dancing session after the rave I had the volume louder than that, probably around I'd say 103dBA, but for almost all of the dancing parts it was around 100dBA at around that specified distance. I didn't want it to be too loud for those long dancing stretches, because that would eventually just turn into the music being obnoxious over time.
However for the rave, at that same previously specified distance, I ran the system at around 105-107dBA. The rave was only for 30 mins, and the rave is pretty much the only part of the night that's really supposed to be really loud. Even at that volume though, nothing was painful, it sounded amazing (IMO), and the music just fully enveloped you. It was like a nice, warm cocoon of music, which is exactly what you want for something like a "rave".
+Alex Berry Thanks for the explanation! I often think that music on party's is comfortable in the beginning, when it sounds the best and isn't to loud. I also agree that it shouldn't be turned up to much throughout the evening. (Wich they do a lot in party's here in Belgium) Music should be nice to listen to, and I think that you guys have everything covered and are doing a very nice job!
Although I think it's not that healthy to sit in front of a sub array like that ;)
No problem, and thanks for the compliment! I work really hard to do the best job I can with the sound at our events and it's nice when other people can appreciate it!
For your average 3 hour dance however, we usually do turn up the volume gradually throughout the night. I'll usually do a 5dB or so increase from the start of the event to the end. Starting with around 98-100dBA somewhere towards the center of the crowd area, and ending with around 103-105dBA for the last 30mins or so. I'll also NEVER push the front row (rail riding) past 110dBA, and I've been to shows at clubs where the front row ends up WELL beyond that towards the end of the night. Even with the volume increase I normally do, it never gets excessive IMO, because I normally don't like it when it's just excessive and painful.
As for sitting in front of the sub array, bass actually doesn't really cause much hearing damage. I've never sat in a REALLY loud car or in front of a sub array with 150+db of bass and gone away with my ears ringing. The only time my ears ring is when the mid/high's are too loud, or the speakers are scratchy as hell in the 2khz region. And bass doesn't generally do any physical harm until you're up above 170db.
Hi I'm a Dj myself and can hardly afford some new speakers. So how can you afford all of that equipment
This may be the longest Gig log (that's not a bad thing)
and how do you run your lights through the board and ShowXpress
There's an equipment list in the description, and the "board" is just a MIDI controller that controls ShowXpress, which in turn controls the lights.
You've clearer got a serious career in LX Design ahead of you bud - what do you use to programme with?
thanks! this was all done with chauvet showxpress version 6.34, i've been using it for the past 4 years. making the upgrade to avolites this year though
Hey guys i had question :
Where do you get the power for all the equipment ??
Does the school have a high voltage supply feed for these types of events or you only use power out of the walls ?
+EttEzioB lBoiZ just use wall outlets. 2 circuits for sound, 5 for lighting
Oh ok ! thanks for righting back !! ! as always keep up the awesome work !!
Awesome GIG :)
you guys put a list of equipment. why not put music list. just wondering what kids liking today
+Michael Grinshtat it's easy to remember what gear we used, it takes time for us to go through the video and label each song. we don't have the spare time to spend on it even if we wanted to honestly. plus, we don't want people relying on us as a source of "what's cool music"
hey bro...what do u guys use to record? and hav u guys found a way to record so that the bass sounds full and clear?
+A.E.L. Sound & Lighting We use a Canon 60D with the built in mic. And I'm not sure what you're listening to the video on, but the bass in the video is very full, although clear maybe not so much. I mean a full square wave (100% clipped signal) at 40hz doesn't even have 1 harmonic beneath 100hz, so even though the audio is clipped it shouldn't really affect the low frequencies.
+SLM Entertainment what software do you use for the lighting?
Chauvet ShowXpress
Thanks :D
thanks
I am guessing you used a massive dmx cable to connect lights to Dylan in control box? And also why don't you use wireless dmx?
+Josh Spehar yep, we had two universes so we used two 250ft dmx cables. we use as little wireless as possible just because it causes more issues for us than wiring
+Doug Berry ok so i lot of wires i guess haha and also is that why you used two chauvet showexpress's as you had the two universes
+Josh Spehar each showxpress dongle supports one universe. we needed two universes worth of channels, so we used two dongles
+Doug Berry Oh ok yeah that makes sense now ;)
how was DMX ran to each flying truss