Bob 94.9FM Birthday Bash 2016 Production Gig Log
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- April 16th, the radio station Bob 94.9FM had their 19th annual Birthday Bash! This is a country concert hosted by the radio station which celebrates the years they've been broadcasting.
VALVE was officially hired for the production of this event, not SLM. VALVE brought Doug and Alex in to direct lighting and FoH mixing.
As for music during the gig, we don't even know most of the names of the songs played by the bands. As usual, we don't take credit for any of the songs heard in this video. All rights for all songs go to their respective owners.
Artist line up:
Ashley Campbell
Mo Pitney
Brooke Eden
Charles Kelley
Blackjack Billy
Also, in the video, we don't talk about what gear we use. However, there's a gear list in the description. If you have any questions about the equipment we used, feel free to ask us in the comments.
Gear list (all gear owned by VALVE is marked as such):
Lighting:
8 - Chauvet Intimidator Spot 355Z IRC (VALVE)
8 - Chauvet ColorBand Pix-M (4 VALVE)
32 - Chauvet SlimPar Pro RGBA (VALVE)
10 - X-Static X-BARTRI7 IRC (VALVE)
22 - Chauvet SlimPar 38
6 - Chauvet SlimPar 56
2 - ADJ Haze Generator
1 - Chauvet Xpress 512
1 - Livid Instruments OHMRGB Slim
1 - Dell XPS15 9550
Sound:
12 - SoundBridge XYON 7108XY (VALVE)
2 - EV ZLX-12P [2 front fill]
8 - SoundBridge XYON 7218SWX (VALVE)
4 - Powersoft K10 (VALVE)
2- Behringer X32 Full (VALVE)
1 - Apple Macbook Pro
As for the rest of the sound stuff, I'm not sure what or how much of each was used, so I'll just post the stuff from VALVE's line card:
Radian MicroWedge
Yorkville something or other wedges (not on the line card)
Sennheiser EW935
Sennheiser E609
Sennheiser E602
Sennheiser E604
Audix F10
Audix F15
Audix D6
Shure SM57
Rapco DB-1
Truss & Stage:
2 - XT-CRANK18FT-500 (Voyager)
2 - Applied Electronics L-16 Crank-up Lift (Voyager)
2 - DT-PRO 4000 Crank
2 - 3.5m F34 Global Truss
2 - 2m F34 Global Truss
4 - 2m F31 Global Truss
9 - 10ft ProX Truss (Voyager)
2 - 5ft ProX Truss (Voyager)
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Excellent work, absolutely fantastic looking / sounding show. I love the multiple layers that you have going on with the truss columns at the back, fabulous design.
Implementation of warmer light especially on downstage truss is all I'd add, just a handful of proper PAR cans to give it that nice 'live band' look. Using generic lanterns for a wash would also free up your LED / intelligent fixtures for broader effects use and savoured impact. Where power is an issue, I have used HEX LED PARs but they don't cut it, throwing in a handful of 300w PAR 56 cans for events with limited power supplies is always worth it. I do however understand that the events you primarily do (at least the ones you showcase on the channel) wouldn't call for such equipment normally.
Looking forward to more of these event gig logs in the future, it's a breath of fresh air to see you guys getting into other types of events so professionally and eager to do well. Awesome job!
ItsMyNaturalColour Pretty cool seeing you here!
i got a x32 compact a while back, love it.
MAGNIFICENT. YOUR TEAM DOES DIFFERENT GIGS AND SET UPS AND STEP YOUR GAME UP EACH TIME. THAT'S HOW TO KEEP THE MONEY FLOWING. KEEP THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX. GREAT JOB .
Amazing. .. congratulations from México ....
Spanning that big of a gap with global truss (WITH line arrays) is ballsy man... Dat sag.
Feel free to look up the load table for F34 truss. I don't remember off the top of my head right now, but we weren't close to the capacity, it's rated for a lot of deflection. Also, global truss is just as strong as tomcat, or ProX, or other similar 12 inch box truss. You can look up the load table for other bands too and let me know if you find some 12 inch truss that's significantly stronger, because I couldn't. If we needed a higher capacity or less deflection, we would need to use larger truss like 16 inch or even 20 inch truss. Anyway, in this scenario, we didn't.
+Doug Berry I definitely understand, and technically yeah it has a nice load capacity, but out here where I am in Southern California at least it's generally frowned upon to span that wide without at least a rigging point in the middle. I will concede the fact that all of the LEDs that you guys have mounted within the span weight basically nothing.
***** Oh I definitely frown upon it too, but it's what we had to work with and as long as it's safe from a technical perspective i'm not gonna make a fuss about it to the production company if that's how they want to do it
Doug Berry thumbs down on your last comment SLM - safety begins with you, if it ain't safe, talk up! You might save life's next time.
Dope AF gents, much love from Sydney Australia !
Awesome gig guys ! Great job and love the x32s :))
nice x32's man! I know you guys mainly do dj style shows but if you do more gigs with bands you should get some incandescent lighting for front lighting, looks better than leds, especially on video. Sometimes you just can't beat old school
Exactly what I was saying
that's a lot of work for a not significantly better result in person. i had the rgba pars at a decent enough color temperature at this event giving a solid representation of skin tones. you can see the difference after i tinkered with the values in the clip at 12:19. the blue hue is with rgba turned all the way up, the obviously much whiter hue is after adjusting the values for about 5 - 10 minutes. the conventionals the theater had already in the stage looked horrible, the light was basically straight orange/red coming off of them.
The mix translated pretty great over video, so I can only imagine how great it sounded in the house! Nice job to everyone involved! It would be awesome to see your mic selection if you get around to adding more to the description.
Thanks man! The mix compliment carries weight, as there were plenty of things I would like to change if I could. It was my first time mixing on this scale as well, and only my second time mixing live bands (minus practice with multitrack recordings in my basement). I'll be updating the sound section of the gear list in the description soon, and when I do I'll also post all the mic details here.
So I'm not exactly sure what mics were used or how many were used, so here's just a bunch of stuff off of VALVE's line card:
Sennheiser EW935
Sennheiser E609
Sennheiser E602
Sennheiser E604
Audix F10
Audix F15
Audix D6
Shure SM57
@@alexberry3833 Hi Alex! I just wanted to say, you do a great job mixing, its a shame the Delran band didn't need your help this year. I thought it sounded better last year regarding mix lol. What are your favorite effects to use in the effects rack?
@@djlobb Thanks! I don't really use that many effects when I'm mixing. I'm more of a minimalist, as in I only do what is necessary to fix problems as I hear them. I can create a stellar sounding mix with just the stock X32 comp/parametric and 1 reverb.
What you do with the lights as truly amazing! Pls do more videos about the process of you programing the lights and how you decide what to do when! Keep it up!
Coming from a guy who also does dj/entertainment and production i have a few suggestions. Before i do, i do want to say that overall the rig looked and sounded (so many variables so i wont talk much about sound) good. Your FOH position should have been a littler closer. You want to set up were the overall "sweet spot" for the rig is. It looks like you guys were standing there at 5:12 to listen to the rig, that is where the FOH should have been. Also, when tuning your PA you should be playing the same type of music that will be played live, if its a country show play country to tune. If its a rock show, play rock etc. Last, if you want to continue to do larger scale live production, you should invest in some conventional lighting, Even if its just 18 pars on dimmers in "meat racks". Using rgbaw pars for your downstage truss only i have found just cant cut in in some situations. Until you get some tour pars, or movers with CMY mixing our cheap DJ pars just dont have the balls to throw out enough warm lighting for a descent wash. Not beating you up about anything because like i said earlier overall it was a good show. Feel free to check out my channel, i know a lot of guys post negative feedback, or criticism and have nothing to show for it. Not me.
with regards to the lighting, we frankly don't do enough live events like these right now to warrant us investing in conventionals or led VW pars or something. conventionals are also large, take a lot of power, maintenance, etc. the slimpar pro rgba suck, but the color temp was decent enough after 5 minutes of tinkering. I figure when we get some hex pars that actually have a white channel, i'll be able to get a solid improvement in temp. in the video, the front lighting looks very pure white on footage, but it was actually a bit warmer in person.
appreciate the feedback! Every event we do is basically modern music, edm, pop, rap, etc, so I'm still getting a feel for live bands. Chris is aware of my lighting background but still gives me the opportunity to work with bands to build experience, which is awesome of him, and I totally have lots of things noted down to change next time
+Doug Berry glad you saw my feedback as constructive and not trying to tear you guys down. Love your work! It's exciting to see your growth through the years! Best of luck!
I always appreciate constructive criticism, although in this case I just happen to disagree with you. With regards to sound, realistically the FOH position should have been exactly where it was. Sure, acoustically speaking the perfect place would be in the middle of the floor, but how realistic is that actually in a venue like this? The floor isn't very big, and we would have taken up a good bit of space. Plus it would have been hard to get to and from with it being in the middle of the crowd. You have to take into consideration more than just "where is the system's sweet spot". Plus, it's not like the sound changed very much from your suggested FOH position as compared to where it actually was, except for losing stereo imagining, but that wasn't really a concern for this show anyways. Also, when tuning the PA, I should be playing the kind of music that I regularly listen to and know exactly what it sounds like. I'm not trying to make the system sound good for country, or sound good for EDM, or whatever. I'm trying to make it sound correct, as in balanced in general. If I were to try to tune the system with some random country song that I've never heard before, I would potentially be doing way more damage to the tone of the system than I would realize. Plus I wasn't even really tuning with music. I mostly used measurement software and just checked the rig with music that I know well to make sure that it sounded correct. And then from there, anything that you put through the system will sound good. Which was exactly the case in this situation. Well, considering these line arrays, good enough.
I would like to have seen some old school parcan sixbars in warm coulors
wow what line array are you using because you should never need an eq that extrema on you're front of house
SoundBridge XYON 7108XY. And agreed, but those boxes are absolutely horrible without that drastic EQ. They sound like an AM radio combined with 1,000 icepicks directly into the eardrums without EQ. I've actually been told that the DSP in the K10's have the factory presets from SoundBridge applied too...
only one word to describe this setup: wow
How do you keep your stuff separate from the other company's stuff during tear down?
Especially like the cables and smaller things.
slowly and carefully lol. most of the stuff is marked accordingly
is there no way to turn off the blinking displays on the moving heads?
Hey, some Moving-Heads / Lights do have a function to turn off the display, but I don't know if the 355Z's have one
Does anyone have the name of the song at 13:44? Tried Shazam etc but no luck.
Hey really good setup but what's the song around 4:18 been trying to find it for ages but just can't find it plz someone help me
Jamie Govier matt zo - eyes open
Hey SLM question your lighting affects are really cool and i wonder do u think it can be done with a DMX Controller or do i really need software
P.s I Think I Need Software lol
You can't do what we're doing with some cheap, run of the mill DMX controller.
+Alex Berry tnx bro
I want to know how u programm your software for lightning...
How u split the colors and the effects, the flashes.
and NO the lightning Video doesn´t help me :DD
What mic are you using for your Room EQ Wizard?
I was using the Dayton Audio EMM-6.
www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-emm-6-electret-measurement-microphone--390-801
I believe it used to be more expensive, I think I bought it a while ago for $80. It's not like an Earthworks M30, but it's damn close. It's got the same capsule that the M30 uses, Earthworks's binning process is just a lot more strict, so they end up throwing away a lot more capsules, which results in the price increase.
How did you do the band changeovers effectively? I've had to do stuff like this before and there's always been an awkward pause as they get the band's stuff off stage then the next band's stuff on.
We didn't handle the band changeovers. And that "awkward pause" you describe describes just about every changeover. It's just something that is unavoidable when you need to change the gear that is on stage. No matter how well thought out, planned, and executed your changeover is, if you need to move equipment on and off of the stage, there will always be downtime. At that point, its just a matter of how much downtime there will be.
what speakers and subs would you recommended to fill the room for a venue like this one
Depends on what you mean by fill the room. To my standards, I'd recommend for a complicated rig 8 db Technologies T8 cabinets flown per side gain shaded (simply speaking, gain shading is where the boxes towards the top of the array are louder than the bottom boxes), with 8 Danley Sound Labs TH118 subs. An easier solution would be to go with something like two Danley SH50 cabinets flown per side with two Danley SH DFA cabinets per side attached to the SH50's for down fills, also with 8 Danley TH118 subs.
ok thanks for the help
Good setup, but I see some improvements that you have could done in the lighting. Because it is a concert and with country music, I think sometimes the lighting is a little bit too restless and too much flicker. I noticed that a lot of times only the spot movingheads were turned on together with the front lighting, and I think that looks a little bit bare.
When I do this kind of shows, I focus a few LED pars from the back truss on the stage to fill up the stage with some nice colours that fits with the spot movingheads. Than you can create some nice spheres on the stage. You can also use some LED wash/beams (like some Martin Mac101) to fill it up with some colours. You can use the sunstrips and other LED pars at the top of the truss to create some effects as an complement.
Don't see this as a negative message because I only try to help a little, the other things in the show are a great job. :-)
I completely agree. I should mention that the video makes the room and the lighting make a lot more contrasty than it actually was, but you're still correct. Every event we do is basically modern music, edm, pop, rap, etc, so I'm still getting a feel for live bands. Also, this was all the equipment we had available. I could have focused some pars and such down and around the stage, but I really wanted to have them as a blinder effect. Next time, I probably will implement more of the styles you're talking about though
hey what programm do you use to controll the light? only the livid rgb slim connected to the computer (wich software)?
We use Chauvet ShowXpress.
Thank you :D
Would it have been easier to integrate the theatre's fly system for the rig?
They would barely need anything different rigging wise just less lifts and a U-blot to go around the batten then just attach the trussing from there using a spanset sling (or something like that)
Did you use the venue sound system as well?
can you tape the led display on the lights facing the stage so that are not seen form the audience
Did you run the subs via aux or full range? Also our the wedges Micro wedges?
I actually prefer to run subs on an aux, but Chris's "racks and stacks" are only setup to be able to be run full range. Plus Chris prefers full range, so that's how we ran it. And yes, some of the wedges are MicroWedge's.
Why didn't you use the conventional lighting / counterweight system existing in the theater was it not available or did you just not want to use it?
you mean just to light the stage? they of course didn't have any moving heads, led pars, colorbars, etc lol
+Doug Berry well most theaters don't have any of that haha but it looked like they had some front light you could have used and probably a dimmer beach
do you have a person mixing monitors on side of stage?? X32 is my console of choice.
Yes we did.
You guys should really work on a different
style/mood for your lighting scenes when it' comes to concerts. Not hating on you guys. y'all are awesome at what you do. If I were to watch this video with no audio what so ever I would have though it was a rap/hip hop concert because of the extravagant chase scenes. It seems like every show you guys do it's the same style of scenes because y'all mostly use those style of scenes when y'all DJ. Country bands or any other genres require a different style or mood such as more Amber/Sunburst effects. It was still badass and you guys always do a great job!
The chase scenes were something that I realized early into the show and used pretty sparingly because you're exactly right. Every event we do is basically modern music, edm, pop, rap, etc, so I'm still getting a feel for live bands. Chris is aware of my lighting background but still gives me the opportunity to work with bands to build experience, which is awesome of him, and I totally have lots of things noted down to change next time
Also, the main reason we have the same style at every event is because of showxpress. There aren't that many things I can do that look good unless I took twice the amount of time to program. I'm moving away from showxpress (hopefully) very soon, so you should notice some new styles once that happens
+Doug Berry What software are you going to go to? ☺
avolites, probably titan mobile for now. If i end up having enough funds for a tiger touch 2, i'll get one of those instead
+Doug Berry nice, slightly out of my budget though !
gma2 command wing costs $2k more for me and has half as many executor faders and buttons. plus, I can expand titan mobile way more than gma2 on pc. I can also grow into larger avolites consoles, but I won't be able to grow into any gma2 consoles.
besides, I really like a lot of things in avo like the pixel mapping and keyframe generator stuff.
nice bro and first lol love your vids 💥💥💥💯💯
Why did you EQ the system while it wasn't even up? It's normal that it wouldn't sound in that setup.
Because I was correcting drastic issues that the Soundbridge boxes inherently have, not doing minute adjustments. You can compare the measurements from the array on the ground at 5:01 with the measurements from the array in the air with the EQ from it on the ground at 9:42 and see that they aren't very different. I gained some energy between 500Hz and 2kHz, 100-500Hz smoothed out some, 5kHz-10kHz smoothed out and the falloff above 10kHz smoothed out too. Overall though, it was mostly the same, and the corrections I did with the array on the ground basically stayed. That's also why I took a second measurement of the array in the air, so that if there were any drastic changes, I could fix them.
can anyone tell me what the name of the song is at 4:30
many thanks
TwiisTed Tag eyes open - Matt zo
That's one hell of a system eq curve! Was it solely corrective or did you just want a high end boost on the FOH eq? Just geek-ily curious... I do FOH for a few production companies and found your videos a while back and thought it was neat to see DJs that actually cared about getting good sound. It's cool to see a concert gig!
Aaaand now that I actually watched the whole video it looks like it was corrective.......
Yup, was totally corrective. The red trace at 5:01 was what I was able to do by ear, with the green trace being the product of having the red trace to work off of. Those Soundbridge arrays really need it, as they sound horrible without any corrective EQ. I wish I would have taken a measurement without any EQ applied. I've actually been told that the DSP in the K10's have the factory presets from Soundbridge applied too...
And it's nice to see someone was able to recognize the work in general I put towards trying to have our events sound as good as possible!
+Alex Berry yeah I got to the point where I saw the traces and thought "shit, should have waited to comment." That's really surprising that that array needs that much correction. I pretty much always use JBL Vertec series arrays and have never used the Soundbridge's and now will probably steer clear of them if I ever come across them in the future. So thanks for the unintentional warning. Props for getting a system that needs that kind of correction sounding good!
Well I've honestly not heard good things about the JBL Vertec series. I know they're hugely popular and are accepted on just about any rider, but it's my understanding that that's only because they're so popular and everybody knows what they sound like. I've never heard a Vertec rig in person, but I've heard they've got that classic JBL 2kHz harshness going on which I'm not a fan of. Also, after the corrective EQ, the SoundBridge system really didn't sound that bad. As long as you have a decent enough ear, or some measurement software with a measurement mic, it's not too hard to make just about any system sound decent. Although if you can I would suggest to absolutely stray away from just about anything SoundBridge. Except for the subs, they're really good IMO. But it's really not that hard to make a good sub. Buy some nice drivers (Soundbridge uses FaitalPRO drivers in their subs) and put them in a cab that works well with them. Honestly not much to it. And I don't know how much I believe their whole "QUAD-ONE™" thing, as I've read stuff online about how physics just doesn't work that way.
+Alex Berry +Alex Berry you make a really interesting point. What works for one person might not work as well for someone else and vice versa...I personally like the Vertec's but you are right. They have a harshness around 2k5. If you're looking at an RTA it doesn't really show it but if you've got half an ear you can hear it. They also get muddy around 250hz if you've got more than 6 or so boxes a side but I guess that's what eq is for (leaving me exactly in the same position as you are...) As for subs, I've probably used almost everything under the sun, some bad most decent to good. Just make sure the cab works with the driver and you're off and running.
Shouldn't you be taking RTA measurements closer to the stage? (Listening Position)
Maybe, not really, it depends, lol. The sound on the floor didn't change very much from closer to the stage compared to at FOH, plus I was mixing at FOH (obviously), so I wanted it to sound correct there, so that I wasn't making corrections on every channel to compensate for some issue at FOH that wasn't at the "listening position".
excellent job on this gig especially on the lighting, but a little advice is to work on your mixing a little more alex. Bring the vocals up more and tighten up the compression and everything would be great. overall it is superb
Thanks! Agreed about the vocals, but the compression you can't really judge over the RUclips video due to our camera and video editing software doing so much extra compression (volume, not data compression).
Some weird shit going on with your system EQ dude?
Generally line arrays couple well in the mid/hf, requiring EQ to be taken out in the system DSP.
But, hey, nice drum sounds and mix? If it works, it works.
There are some clips in the video where the camera is shown the measurements taken at FOH. These measurements are AFTER the crazy EQ in the X32. There was no system processor at this event, so the X32 main output acted as one.
I can tell you from experience having used these boxes that without that crazy EQ they sound absolutely horrible. It has nothing to do with line array, and everything to do with poor speaker design.
How much weight does the truss rigging hold at that length? It looks like it is bending towards the middle of the rig. Do you guys have insurance. Great job on the lighting fellas, keep up the good work....
Feel free to look up the load table. I don't remember off the top of my head right now, but we weren't close to the capacity, it's rated for a lot of deflection. We do have insurance, but it would have been Voyager's insurance covering this event.
Understand... Not knocking you in anyway..keep up the good work...nice vids!
DJ 1800 thanks!
What was your setup for shooting the room? Looked pretty simple and gave plenty of info.
Do you mean the camera setup? That was just a handheld Canon 60D with a 18-135mm kit lens.
+SLM Entertainment No, I mean what you used at 9:20 to take a system response measurement
PhantomKrieger Oh, that was a Dayton EMM-6 with a Native Instruments Komplete Audio 6 for an audio interface, with REW running as the measurement software. REW gives you magnitude, phase, distortion, impulse response, RT60, among other stuff including impedance if you set everything up correctly.
Did you guys use a confidence monitor?
Nope.
Awesome gig! Surprised for a venue that size they don't have any in house gear, or was there and you just didn't use it?
what in house equipment did you expect us to use?
some super old par cans to light the stage, but we didn't use those. really didn't like them
And where blinders aimed at the audience?
well, I was using the slimpar pro rgbas kinda like blinders. they get pretty bright
Whats the brooke eden song at 16:52?
What's the song at 10:10?
what progame you using on your phone for the sound
Mixing Station for Android. It's used to control the Behringer X32 console.
yes another view. But where is the explanation promised in the cedar cliff mini thon
I should *finally* have time to make that in June!
Uploaded now! ruclips.net/video/4T7rz0TGUQg/видео.html
What type of moving heads are you using???
Equipment list is in the description
thanx for get back to me
I was wondering. Where do you find all this amazing music? :D Not from this video, but from when you have a DJ playing
The internet, lol. Sorry to be a smart ass, but that really is the answer. There's no special website or anything, just SoundCloud, Beatport, and for high school events we go mostly off of the requests we receive from the school.
Hmm. Yeah okay hah :D I see... I just think the events a so fluid and awesome! Wish we had guys like you in Denmark, i have NEVER seen setups like that before :) Keep it up, i enjoy the gig logs :D
Thanks!
You guys make nice video's! I've got a few questions about PA and light. Can you guys give some tips for buying lightning and for sound?
im a sound engineer as well as lighting. Maybe i could help you?
If you want to help.. sure. Do you have a email or something else were we can talk than it is a quick more faster and better.
+Ruben Vaartjes I do whwts your email?
djbenruben@outlook.com
did you recieve my message?
Why 2 behringer X32's?
One is for the monitors, the other for FOH.
What where they yelling about at 9:32?
What ist the song name from the min. 10:09?😍😍😍
MOONZz - Satisfy (Khamsin Remix)
what is the program you are using on the macbook pro?
Room EQ Wizard
www.roomeqwizard.com/
cool thanks for that
what eq preset do you use in room EQ wizard for the behringer x32 EQs?
Jamie Sutcliffe I didn't. I did most of the tuning by ear, and then what I couldn't figure out I just looked at the trace and did the rest by hand on the X32. However, if I was going to use the auto EQ in REW with the X32, I would just select the "Generic" EQ, and then turn off all of the filters except for 4 of them, leaving my low and high shelves intact. Although, most of the time you should be doing your system tuning with some sort of rack mountable DSP unit. But since this system isn't mine, and I didn't have one I could use, I had to use the X32.
What moving spots are you using here?
Jesse Coonen look at the description
Hi Doug, What do you think of ADJ MyDmx 2.0?
never used it, no opinion
What is the song at 5:42 great job by the way
L.S. Entertainment matt zo - eyes open
awesome!
Awesome gig mate you did very well honestly but i've wanted to know the song at 10:07 was and i've tried looking for it so if know the song name at 10:07 please tell me
PSXBXGAMER it's called Satisfy
PSXBXGAMER by MOONZz
It is the Khamsin remixed version
Trap City did a similar remix and sounds really similar but its still different
Yeah, that is probably the one they used. At least it sounds like it
Great job as always what is the new software your thinking of ?
Thanks! And what do you mean?
+Alex Berry hi Alex, I mean Doug mentioned in an earlier post he was looking to upgrade the lighting software shortly. I was wondering what he was considering ?
Kyran O'Mahoney I don't believe that's correct. We're looking at Avolites (console manufacturer) to replace ShowXpress, but AFAIK there aren't any good programs out there that support MIDI control, which is what we need.
How are you handling haze?
used 2 ADJ haze generators. One in each back corner of the stage. You can see one at 13:01
what height were the cranks set at?
16ft
alex good job on the audio mansounds fantastic
Thanks!
What were the angles on the Line array
Can't remember exactly, but I (Alex) think they were 0,5,5,5,8 degrees.
that's a really cool setup why are ther bands ther
looks great, you can tell the lighting programming was done for parties and dj events, not live music and concert style, but looks good, a bit distracting tho
Yep, at the time I didn't think so but I 100% agree now 4 years later. This was one of my early band gigs, and I was still using showxpress. The way I do lighting for bands now is dramatically different, and better (in my opinion!)
Oh yea, but still though, fantastic layout and design!
What console do you now use?
Slm to the next level
anyone have song @10:24-11:15
They don't know the song
MOONZz - Satisfy (Khamsin Remix)
Will SLM respond to this msg?
The world may never know...
Is it just me or you guys are measuring too far. That crazy eq curve on the mains tho.
Definitely not measuring too far, we took measurements at the mixing position. I also walked the room multiple times to make sure the room sounded relatively consistent, which it did. The trace at 9:42 is an accurate measurement of the PA after that crazy EQ.
just curious. song at 2:43
Spor - The Hole Where Your House Was
what song is that around 5:50
Oliver Heldens & Throttle - Waiting ;)
Your main bridge of structure is bending a lot :/ Not good
Feel free to look up the load table for F34 truss. I don't remember off the top of my head right now, but we weren't close to the capacity, it's rated for a lot of deflection
The problem is the span. 50' is usually more than any 12" truss is rated for. You either need to be using motors so you can get a center point or take a stick of truss off.
Austin Hinners I agree that it's not optimal, but this is how the production company in charge was doing it. I offered alternatives but they were comfortable with this, and it's their gig after all
there are those status leds on the heads and the pars again, same as at the mini thon with the led bars on the diamond... 😧
I promise if I'll ever come to the US, I will bring you some rolls of electrical tape or something ^^
but nonetheless great videos and great job on that lighting and sound ;)
the diamond at mini thon was ridiculous, but the rest we won't tape off because we need to be able to troubleshoot if the lights are getting signal or not. that's the whole point of the signal lights. not to look pretty, but they're important
+Doug Berry that kinda makes a lot of sense 😝
Why is the video not available ?
Copyright. Working on removing the section that is causing the video to be blocked.
Come try again later. We cut the part of the video that was causing it to be blocked, so hopefully it's all good when it's done processing.
try using a VPN service. worked for me since the GEMA blocked the video in germany. the server is located in Illinois, Chicago and I have no problem whatsoever :)
Should be available now!
Whoops, should be available *tomorrow*. Sorry :(
Why 2 X32's?
1 for monitors, 1 for FOH.
pls song 9:49 :(
X32 Yessssss
i love the X32/M32. the only thing about the X32 is that the faders die very quicky.
wait the mixer faders move on their own
Yes they do. They're called motorized faders, and are a very common thing with digital mixing consoles.
It's a digital mixer
+Alex Berry that's pretty cool btw I am a big noob to audio stuff
Donnelly5321 ya pretty obvious it is...
That X32 thought, anyone else use it?
I have. It's a good low-medium tier digital board. If you're looking for anything a bit more prestigious and well-known around the industry, I would suggest checking out the Allen & Heath GLD-80 or a Midas M32. Hope this helps!
+SpaceMountainLarry thanks I use every week but for our main we use a Yamaha cl3
I'm lights not sound but where I do a bunch of work we use one. I picked it out in the video instantly.
Yup :)
I'm jealous over the CL3, lol
I have the save ev zlx and Danley sound labs
lovo slm entertainment cool cool cool
Really nice job guys, Mix sounded brilliant. You are guys are awesome and inspiration. +1 For young people in production. Ill be uploading some vlogs from the musical im working on shortly and if you guys checked them out would mean heaps :)
Thanks man!
FODA
5:30 :)
Why do you insist on playing that shitty electronic music when your setting up! its a country gig...
well, we don't "insist" on playing anything, people just let us do our jobs. anyway, here's a response alex made to a comment:
"when tuning the PA, I should be playing the kind of music that I regularly listen to and know exactly what it sounds like. I'm not trying to make the system sound good for country, or sound good for EDM, or whatever. I'm trying to make it sound correct, as in balanced in general. If I were to try to tune the system with some random country song that I've never heard before, I would potentially be doing way more damage to the tone of the system than I would realize...I mostly used measurement software and just checked the rig with music that I know well to make sure that it sounded correct. And then from there, anything that you put through the system will sound good"
also, while setting up for a concert, it's not "gig" time, it's just setting up time. it doesn't matter at all what is played during that time frame. at some concerts like this, it's not uncommon for production staff to take turns plugging in their phones and playing music they want to listen to loud before the event, or just to listen to while setting up. it's not some rule that all other genres which will not be played by the artists are prohibited from the venue all weekend. obviously between the artists, we were given a flashdrive with music to play and we did.
Hmm... makes sense. Not hating really, just really bugged me some reason
Amazing. .. congratulations from México ....
Are the front lights on at all times?
no, most of the time though. none of the times i had them off were caught on camera
That's not true, you had them off at 19:29 lol
Really liked the rig, but you should try side lighting next time, and not the front top truss. When you side light, it usually gives the stage more depth and won't "wash it out" like the front "flood" does.
What rta mic y’all use?