Is The New 2025 Toyota 4Runner Trailhunter Better Than The Tacoma???
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
- In this video, we review the all-new 2025 Toyota 4Runner Trailhunter and compare it to the new Tacoma Trailhunter. We dive into key similarities and major differences between these two rugged off-road models. Watch to see which Trailhunter best fits your adventure needs!
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Fully loaded these shouldn't cost more than $40K-$45K honestly $50K+ is just luxury car territory
AGREED
Good video but Toyota has gone crazy. Tacoma will sit as they are priced 15k over what they should be. They are very cool and sharp but not worth 65-70k.
It’s definitely for a niche buyer like the trd pro is. Not a volume seller for sure. Many will opt against it.
All the competitors are priced the same
@@2URLexnot true…a Colorado zr2 is significantly cheaper.
The ZR2 is on the level of the TRD OR
Toyota has sold about 120k tacomas and 117k tundras this year… good for 19th and 24th spots on top 25 sellers this year
If I had the money, probably would do a four Runner
Heck ya man! Hope you can!
I'm keeping my 21 GX, it's all I need 😊
I like that 4 runner, but the noisy snorkel would make me mental
$66k for a Tacoma with no storage and not a great interior? Toyota is crazy with these prices.
Sorry Toyota, I’ve owned many but for that price I expect portal axles (they don’t even give us seperate bump stops now)
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Always! Good at our house. I appreciate the concern!
Although they both look cool, I personally would pickup a TRD Offroad premium 4Runner, and add my own parts and pocket the difference. Still not sold on the 6th Gen 4Runner though.
For $70K,… Land Cruiser over the Tacoma & 4Runner - and it’s not even close!
I know, needed explains
Worldwide inflation, market currency and value of money is devaluing. This is happening in every western nation in the world, and wont change unless these socialist are out of power. This happen when government print money on purpose. IN Europe they are selling small cars for 45G, they can't afford this. Look up the WEF and their global agenda for the currency
4Runners have always been this expensive for top trim levels. Some people will buy it and most will get SR5 or similar.
Worldwide global inflation, this is happening all over the world. Why food, labour and good are more
Toyota doesn't even use leather anymore. Spend 70k and get vinyl seats and no AC vents in the back
Nobody should buy a midsize truck anymore. Even the lower tiers are only 3-6k less than the equivalent full sized (except the overpriced Tundras)
If you are gonna be paying that much for that truck, you are out of your mind.
Why not. You’ll get your money back when you resale. That’s the beauty of buying a Toyota.
@@oldmanmike4995 that's why resale value shouldn't be a thing to brag about toyota... because you already pay that upfront when you purchased it.
Global currency is in inflation, this is worldwide. When small cars are selling in Europe for 40 to 50g, this is all by globalism
USA dollar is being devalued.
@@lespaulguitarist92 wrong. You buy the taco and might make a profit. You buy a frontier Colorado ranger and you’re 15 grand negative once you drive off the lot.
Toyota corporate has lost their marbles
Idk man, seems like in the new 4Runner there’s hardly any legroom in the rear seats like with Tacoma.
Nice video Jon! I’m jealous you could get into the 4Runner! It was locked and roped off at Overland Expo in Flagstaff and locked in Colorado! Can’t wait to see the pro up close. The Tacoma TRD Pro looks amazing in person so I am guessing the 4Runner will as well!
wheres all the people still complaining about the Land cruiser prices that are around 70K
They were there when I made those videos too lol
Those suck also
I'm a little disappointed in the new LC, 4runner & Tacoma.
Tacoma Trailhunter is the only trim aimed at the enthusiasts imo. Ford Bronco, Jeep Wrangler... these platforms are improving approach & departure angles, improving ground clearance with each new model.
Toyota's are getting worse approach, departure & ground clearance with each new model, they're going the wrong way.
I'm now very happy with my 2022 4runner I purchased new and dropped about 10k in mods.
Hey Jon, there is a RUclips channel (Toyota Australia) with a video called Testing the new Land Cruiser Prado on Ausie Soil. The Prado is trail dust color and has a matching bumper with grill gaurd and two fog lights on each side. If you get a second, check it out and perhaps you can ask your Toyota connections about making that bumper and grill gaurd combo an option on the US model.
Will do!
The TH would have been so much more unique with 35s or even 34s. Just something bigger since you’re paying more.
I like the look and features of the Trail Hunter 4Runner, but for that price I would get the Land cruiser instead.
The Trailhunter wheels are growing on me
Ya? Still a little meh for me but I’m glad you’re liking them!
I wonder if we could swap the center consoles between the two, if there are similar hookups just blocked off underneath with plates for the Tacoma? I’d rather route rear air than have spare small cup holders. My Good Boy deserves cool air too.
Toyota decides to address the complaints about trucks being slow, design being the same for years and trucks not having tech options just to get as much if not more complaints… part of having a popular product I guess
And... Decide to mass produce them down in Mexico with dirt cheap labor VS in Texas, but.. Jack's the prices thru the sunroof 🙄
@@MrplaywellI do believe the trucks in texas had a engine recall. So to say the trucks in texas would of been better quality then mexico is kind of a mute point right now.
I don’t think people would be so pissed off if they didn’t jack the prices so much. People need basic trucks still. Toyota seems to have forgotten that. This is what made them successful!
They cheaped out on everything and then made it 50% more expensive... 🥔
$75k otd for a 4cyl turbo 4runner? lol for $5k more you can get GX550 Overtrail.
At the end of the day - they have the same exact frame. The engine in the GX doesn’t cost more to produce than the engine in the 4 Runner with hybrid system. The GX has more torque but not excessively more. The 4 Runner is going to get you much better fuel economy & this is the top of the line one with everything. And it’s probably not priced at $75,000. Probably low 70s vs the GX at like $83,000
@@briandorsey6437 I think they will be pretty close to a normal overtrail in price honestly
@@briandorsey6437 GX550 has V6. For
@@briandorsey6437 GX Will hold its value better as a Lexus luxury car with a premium interior.
Jon check out that new Lexus LX700h announcement! Overtrail LX700h to get triple lockers!
Guess I’m keeping my 4th Gen 4 runner, bullet proof , all I need
Dream truck: this gen 4Runner but with the 1GR-FE and under 60K. Still nice though. The Trailhunter is prob they way to go with 4Runner.
The seats in the 4Runner look comfortable, real nice with the soft touch. Negative no rear AC, that's a non starter in hot states , and actually pretty damn stupid. Your kids will hate you with NO A/C in the back. $67k, just paid (last month) $42,700 for a 4Runner SR5 Premium. The question for me, would I trade the 24' for a 25" strait up. Nope.
No rear arm rest in the Tacoma continues to be criminal
Most people can't ride in the rear, so there's really no need for arm rests
Yup. I passed on the Tacoma because of the uncomfortable rear seats. Didn't want to hear my kids complain.
Xtracab makes more sense for the Tacoma less weight looks more cooler. Back seats on the 4 door are useless anyway.
Start cleaning out yout garage soon Jon. You need to make to make room for the new 4runner coming soon to the channel 🫡😉😎
Jon, at Van York in HP where you snagged that blue Tundra, they had as of yesterday - 32 Tacomas on the lot.
Man that’s crazy! Time for a great deal!
For the price, I’m going with the GMC AT4
Nice. Enjoy!
Nissan will carve out a larger market share of the the midsize pickup market with their Frontier at these prices from Toyota.
The only people you’ll see driving these are guys with RUclips channels. The trails will just be one giant RUclips video shoot. Welcome to your future 😵💫
Rather save money for offroad goodies and get a Ranger Raptor.
Enjoy!
Did you say the 4Runner may be the same or less than the Tacoma? Yeah right! They’ve historically been $4-6k more for similar equipped trims. Expect a $70k 4Runner Trailhunter, $70k trd pro, $72k platinum.
ACTUALLY if you pick the trailhunter you are def NOT going off road
Weird cuz those who have bought it are already sharing their off road adventures
inflation adjusted 1990s and 2000s 4Runners could be priced into the $60k range with 150hp! We have it pretty good relatively speaking, This pricing is nothing new for these trucks.
Is there any model or variant where the seats fold flat for a bed / car camping scenario?
The hybrid like this is the flattest it will go
You seem defeated by this new gen. I agree
Defeated?
Pay $70K for a 2025 4Runner/Taco TH or Pro yet 99% of your neighbors and people on the road will think it's just a $40K Toyota (b/c only 4Runner & Taco fans know how much Toyota has gone insane w/ pricing).
This is a selling point for some.
@@jdrein9511 : Some perhaps, but I would wager most people who spend $70K on a car want people to know they spent $70K.
For seventy the materials should for the inside, should feel great. And the sound of that intake, right next to the window, that would annoy me after a while. Other than that the truck looks good
Have a look at Robystarbuck ‘s latest video on Toyota going woke…I’m glad a bought a Honda…
Unfortunately, it won't be either of these. While I love the seats and most of the interior, both the Tacoma and next gen 4Runner have a design that I personally can't stand; and infotainment screen that looks like an afterthought. A bit "tablet" looking screen slapped onto the dash rather than a nice integrated screen like most other modern vehicles. Tundra and Sequoia suffer the same horrid "tablet" slapped on the dash. When it comes time to replace our 4runner, looks like the Land Cruiser will get a a try from us. The screen is nicely integrated into the dash.
I love toyota but at the price point of their new trucks. I think I'll probably go with the nissan frontier pro4x.
4runner Trail Hunter should have come with a read bumper with a swingout.
same garbo
Wow!!! I paid 70K Canadian for a 24 4 Runner TRD Pro!! That means the Trail Hunter will be 96K north of the border. That's just crazy!
Yea that’s wild man
The pricing is ridiculous. My 24 Tundra Limited TRDOR hybrid stickered at $68k. That Tacoma is $1k less. For almost the same price, definitely taking my Tundra over a Tacoma. Plus, I got a $6k discount on the Tundra, the Trailhunters typically have mark up. So I saved thousands of dollars and got way more truck.
After seeing the new trail hunters in person, would you trade your 5th gen on one?
No I wouldn't
@@TRDJon I figured 😅
Why wouldn't you just buy the Land Cruiser for nearly the same money?
I say wait 3 years and buy the 2025 4Runner used for 30-40% less.
The long term issue with Toyota's pricing structure will be resale value. High residual value on Tacoma and 4Runner are over.
All the new Toyota and Lexus trucks are nice….just need my wife to get another job to be able to afford them
$70k for a vehicle that will depreciate once I drive it off the lot. Get a door ding, scratches or worse accident on the road. No thanks, I’ll stick with a basic one and add what I like not what Toyota likes..
The decision of 2025 for me will be whether or not I want a 5th gen or 6th gen 4Runner 😅
The shared landcruiser 300 base frame architecture
Seems to have pushed these other models up in price
If the rest of the quality matched the frame then perhaps potential customers would say what the hell I am getting a 20yr truck and go for it
But sadly Toyota cheaped out on the rest
no way. I will pass.
Does the 4runner have more room in the second row than the Tacoma? Hard to tell in the video. The second row looks small in the 4runner.
It will have much more room. It shares its wheelbase with the new Land Cruiser which has plenty of space.
@jdrein9511 ok cool. I have an 08 4runner now, but she's getting tired. Will probably have to retire it in a couple years. Would like to stay with the 4runner family. It's been good to me. Thank you.
Not having bump stops is a bummer 😕
Yep.
It's more of a weakness and future failure point than just a bummer
Choose how you want your trim level to be stamped on the vehicle.
really think these are all priced about $10k too high.... not seeing the value nor justification for skyrocketed prices on toyotas here
10k? A taco should not cost more than 40k.... 70k is retardation 🥔
@@crash6674 55K SHOULD BE FOR A FULLY SPEC'ED MODEL. 70K IS INSANE!! THATS HIGH LUXURY TRUCK TERRITORY.
70k has many choices, but not a 4Runner. Thanks Toyota :)
LOL ! 70K For the 💩 show that is now toyota? 😂 Hard Pass....
Jon, love your videos but buddy, that trail hunter tacoma is going to collect lot rot if it is at a stealership. I seriously doubt anyone is going to shell out a cool 70k for it.
People are buying them, but there is some sitting for sure! Definitely not gonna be a volume seller. I agree. Thanks for watching and commenting. I truly appreciate it
@@TRDJon My local Toyota dealership is stacked with Tacoma's. I expect some deals off MSRP are possible.
They’ve been under MSRP for a month or more now. Get em cheap!
THE NEW 2025 6 CYLINDER TOYOTA TACOMA !
Dont get peoples hopes up lol
@@TRDJon A RUMOR - I DON'T KNOW -someone put it on youtube so you know how that info is
Does the new 4runner interior have less space than the 5th gen?
70k for snorkel? U think its worth it over the trd pro?
Did I miss something? Is 6th gen pricing out?
Not officially. We discussed in the video how much it could be.
Cut the price in half and I'm interested.
Everyone would be
Not even the previous gen was that cheap lol. I think if this was 57-59k lots of people would be much happier. It couldn’t stay the same price because this is a lot more advanced than it’s predecessor
Toyota is out of their mind with these prices! I think the Land Cruiser is currently the best "deal" out there and both Tacoma and 4 Runner is 10k overpriced.
Both are bad bets at msrp. Toyota/Lexus’s value proposition for the buyer is toast. The higher trims are priced way too high and the lower trims feel low quality for what they are. I purposely waited for the 24 Tacoma and passed on the 23 MY. Now I’m kicking myself and I decided it was best to put 3k in repairs on my old 97 Toyota pickup to keep in on the road.
They cheaped out on all the suspension and axel attachment points.... 50% more cost with 50% cheaper build quality r.i.p. toyota... the bean counters got you
I really hope they are tacoma prices.
I agree. Idk why it would be more, it has less features.
@@TRDJon Historically, 4Runners have always been more expensive than Tacomas. I wouldn’t hold my breath on similar pricing. Expect a few thousand more for a 4Runner compared to the equivalent trim Tacoma.
Very very true. Hopefully for the base models and these ones are the same
They are going to be more expensive- sorry. It will be somewhat hidden in the option packages, but they will be more $$$.
I bet Toyota will have a problem selling these even more than the Tacoma.
Uhhh
Doubtful
I'm picking the Ranger Raptor. 4Runner is just not doing anything for me. Maybe it'll look better in a different color, but I don't think I'll be able to get over the interior. I just think the interior is very unpleasant looking. The Taco isn't even an option.
The best bang for your buck right now.
70k you get a nice tundra
For sure coould!
I can't believe that's our reality now. $70K for a soccer mom SUV. That's wild.
I'd much rather have a V6 non-hybrid like the new Lexus GX instead of the new 4runner or Land Cruiser. I don't want 4 cylinders, or the battery pack taking up space and adding weight. The GX 550 Overtrail starts at $69k so you're not even saving money getting the 4runner. What is Toyota thinking with these prices?!
My 2021 trd pro 4r was 53k with some port options. If trd pro is 70k+ for 2025. No way does toyota sustain longterm sales leader for any new truck.
4Runner doesnt look like it has much rear passenger leg room either.
Hurricane on the way but bro is still uploading😂😂. Floridians are built different I guess😂. In all seriousness though be safe out there!
In Pasco county near Odessa and it’s screaming outside! 7:21PM.
@@michaelholliday6037 Stay safe brother!
@@TRDJon Thank you Jon! Fellow veteran here, oorah!
I would pick neither I will keep my third GEN good video though
Enjoy man!
These will have an $80k sticker price, and cost $110k after interest most likely. And honestly, I’m not super impressed.
Buy a 2024 v6 4Runner pro for 57k while you have time if not wait and purchase a 2026 v6 off road Honda passport v6. Don’t pay 70k for a 2025 4Runner pro with a turbo 4 with a battery long term the turbo and battery will need replacement!
Both already need Wheels make over
Toyota should blame the riches for letting the dealership lots full of unsold trucks. 😂
over priced!!
Here in canada trailhuntet tacos are going for 90k
I saw a Bronco “on sale”today for $82k. 😅
Yea the Bronco Raptors are definitely going down in MSRP for sure. People don’t wanna pay these premiums and it’s showing
Not worth the money. I'll keep my 15. These car companies know the financial situation people are in, why keep making 70 80 90 100k vehicles
Neither unless I made 500k a year and was short on medication for compulsive behavior, then I might consider it. Joking aside, 4runner but they’re too much $$ so back to neither.
This is due to inflation worldwide. This is why there is major election in Canada next year and Usa this year. Europe and Canada, cars like the Honda civic are selling for 40 to 47grand. Cummins Diesel was 47g, now selling for 75 to 140. Jeep Gladiator is selling for 67 to 130g in Canada. The cost of supplies, labour , food, rent have all doubled. This is all done by printing of USA dollar, which devalues the currency and spending power. This is happening Globally, and the men in power don't care. In Canada there is massive anger toward the government printing money, and nobody can't afford anything, And we were a very rich country next to states. VOTE KAMALA out of power, or see nothing change. Everyday the USA govt prints 80 million dollars a day; this devalues the currency
33” tires - MAYBE 23”
Yea no lol
Did they say when it will release and how much it will cost?
Toyota usually puts vents under the front seats for the people in the back. All my 4Runners and tundras have had it
Needs to be in the roof
@@TRDJon It’s just as effective plus the under seat vents are much larger then they would be in the roof.
Yea but you can’t feel it and that’s what a lot of people like
70k? Lol wtf! Toyota you gone crazy...
It’s up there for sure
Toyota of North America are ruining the brand the Japanese worked so hard to keep
In Canada trailhunter is 95000 lol not sure who would buy that?
$66,900 for the Taco! All those Gadgets to blow up! Downsized components and quality, Questionable transmissions, I would buy a 2023 or 2024 4Runner all day and every day! Hard Pass on the new replacements! Good Luck Toyota, Their debt is $280 Billion! Yikes WOW! how much is the monthly interest bill!?😇
Funk that!!!!! Bro what real estate u investing in ….
Short term and long term rentals.
4Runner - " we don't need no stinkin recovery points "
Expensive. Toyota luxury vehicles