Not that Amy hated him or songs but it feels like you feel people doubt on your ability, feeling not good enough, and someone try to interfere their creative process. The song is cool but it felt like a tragedy to remember. They want to add male vocalist in every song but in the end, the label agree only one song will feature duet.
12 Stones dude rapping was the main part of the song I even cared about!! 😂😂 Evanescence never truly captured the nu-metal vibe; it's just that song-basically. Even bands like Orgy and Deadsy were more nu-metal, and they could be considered "black sheep" of the genre. Evanescence was just kind of a radio-rock / alternative rock band. I wouldn't consider them nu-metal, or any type of metal. Even calling 'em nu-adjacent _(because of one song)_ is kind of a stretch. Alternative rock? Sure! That describes them more accurately. And I'm not a chauvinist or some chit like that. There's plenty of actual female NU-metal bands. Check out Defenestration, Kittie, Velcra, and Otep; amongst others.
Fun fact: the reason theres a male vocalist in the song isn't because they wanted rapping in one song but because the execs GENUINELY believed Amys voice alone could not carry the band. They thought nobody would care because shes a woman in a male dominated music scene at that time. Now, this seems silly because of Amys successful solo career and multiple albums that Evanescence has put out since the dude was removed from the band. The fact that these fools heard Amys voice and decided she wasn't good enough shows how absurdly out of touch music execs can be.
OK, you're right that their reasoning was asinine. Now with that said, let's admit that the song is better because of their demand. It didn't have to be a male rapper, but the fact that it is a duet with two distinct, different voices adds a layer to the song that makes it exponentially better. Without that layer, the song is very good; great even. With that layer, the song becomes the mega hit that it was. Everybody knows the song and the reason they know it was because it was a stand out and that extra layer of depth to the vocals is the difference that made it stand out. Dual vocals is why the song is by far their biggest hit.
@pcprincipal4608 is not their fault she played the same stuff over and over. They have 5 studio albums now. (Fallen, The Open Door, Evanescence, Synthesis, and The Bitter Truth). Be open minded and listen to more than just what your little sister was playing.
Man I'm a dude and I love Evanescence, people call me weird as f*ck but just the sound of Amy Lee's voice contrasting the more heavier instrumentals is so cool to listen to idk
It wasn't bold at all, it was a predictably sexist label decision cause hard rock and metal was male dominated, and easy way to market it because that rap rock/nu metal sound was the popular radio sound of the time
"wake me up" is the reason I got that album and I was so happy that song hooked me enough to get the album... Beautiful lyrics, epic sound. Miss the music of the times so bad.
In an interview, Amy Lee mentioned they told her that audiences don’t like songs with only female vocals. They insisted that because Lincoln Park was the hot new thing they wanted a male rapper added to her song. Actually they wanted a male rapper added to the band, and she had to put her foot down and settle for him to only be in the song.
@@Airon79 It was hers. Amy Lee wrote the song at age 19 with partial songwriting credits from Ben Moody and one other guy. The rapper, McCoy, was brought in at the suggestion of the record executives. Evanescence did not want him in the song. It worked out OK because the hit went big. But it wasn’t the sound they wanted. That choice was forced on them.
Good. I have gotten better, but she was right. Most people did not like only female vocals. Amy Lee was good, but she was so stuck up. Her attitude put a lot of people off.
@@kaitlyngault3987 I have to call bullshit on people not liking female vocals. Celine Dion, Mariah Carey, heart, Fleetwood Mac, there were plenty of female vocalists who were huge before evanescence. And plenty since then… Need I even mention Taylor Swift?
SAME. been a fan since they came out and still a huge fan til this day. have yet to dislike any song EV or Amy has put out yet. Fallen and The Open Door were the soundtrack of my high school days lol. currently loving The Bitter Truth.
He 100% made this song, imo. I love amy too, but I wouldn't have started listening to her, if not for the feature of my favorite band's lead singer. And I still never enjoyed her music as much as 12 Stones.
@@trackydoo lmao no he didn't 100% made this song, Amy did. He's a great addition, but if it weren't for Amy, it wouldn't be what it is, not even close. Stop exaggerating. Also, I don't think whether or not you listened to her music would have changed or contributed to anything.
@@trackydoo lol ngl first time I hear someone met Evanescence because of 12 Stones and not the other way around, but good to see og nu-metal fans still around
@@trackydoo you’re biased because you were already a huge fan of the 12 Stones, but your opinion that he “100% made the song” couldn’t be more wrong. Their lack of success relative to EV’s confirms this.
Well, I'm personally glad she featured Paul McCoy because i wouldn't have heard her music and started listening to her. I was a die hard 12 stones fan back then.
Not many female artists can still contain that voice Amy Lee projected in the band's hit album. She can still belt THAT tune. Reminds me of Ann Wilson. Real talents never fades away.
The debut album has elements of nu metal due to the record company. Evanescence is not a nu metal band. BMTL's nu metal/rap rock was forced on by their label back then as a sexist demand to market at the time. Before that, their label had demanded they permanently add a male vocal-rapper to the band because they and radio claimed there wasn't a market for a female-led hard rock band. The song sonically doesn't represent them. Neither does My Immortal, another one the label demanded because they saw it as a pop hit. They're an alternative band that blends various genres including classical music, metal, industrial, electronica, trip hop, among others.
What you said in the last part is somewhat describing symphonic metal which is a genre i heavily associate evanescence on, one of my all time favorite bands and as much as i hate the story behind BMTL the rap still slayed tbh, but yeah id def say theyre symphonic metal and not nu metal
@@krvavaserenada I wouldn't even call them a symphonic metal band, because symphonic metal is only one part of their sound. Like gothic rock or industrial rock are also just one part of their sound. Some of their songs even have elements of r&b, electro, and soul. There isn't one specific genre that fits all their work, that's why it's probably best to just put them in the big parent genres alternative and hard rock, with the asterisk that they mix different genres. Amy's been asked before about what genre she considers Ev to be, and she said she doesn't think of it being any one specific subgenre and the reason she started Ev was to fuse different styles she loved. She writes and plays whatever she feels at the time, whether it's heavy on industrial, or on metal, or gothic vibes, or electronics, singer-songwriter ballad, or symphonic and choirs, another style, or mix of several those styles.
OK, well you say that, but off the Fallen album, BMTL pretty accurately represents Going Under, Everybody's Fool, Haunted, Tourniquet, Imaginary, Taking Over Me, My Last Breath, and Whisper. So basically, aside from My Immortal and Hello, both piano ballads, _one of which you said the label pushed,_ ALL the other songs on the Fallen album are all represented by BMTL very accurately with the lone, singular difference between it and the others being the second vocal was male instead of Amy Lee. And that singular, "sexist" difference is the reason BMTL was THE HIT of the band's career and Going Under was not. The human ear can tell it's the same person singing over themselves. If Going Under was the true duet instead of BMTL, Going Under would be the mega hit that made their career. It didn't have to be a male rapper, but it did have to be a unique voice because unique voice, that extra vocal layer, is the difference and that's what the rest of their songs that never got anywhere near as popular or iconic and everlasting as BMTL. Now, whether they should have brought on a full time male "rapper" or had Moody sing or brought in another woman to sing backup, that part can be debated. *The one thing that can't be debated is that BMTL was the big hit and the only thing that separates BMTL from 80% of the rest of that album is that a unique voice did the backing vocals.*
@@Parker-- Honestly, we will new know if BMTL would be hit without that male rapper or if Going Under would be a hit with it. I myself seriously doubt BMTLwould be such a hit with a male vocalist, as the song simply seems less catchy compared to BMTL. However, what I can say is that without the male rapper voice on BMTL and basically half of it's chorus melody removed from BMTL, I find the song sounds much less interesting than with it. When it has that guy rappin/singing, there is a nice back and forth between the 2 vocalist, like a question and answer as it's called in music composition. I dislike how these days everything is called racist/sexist if the proposed victem is a female or a person of color. However, when it's the other way around it's never like that. Men do not complain that girls like the disney princesses more than aladin and such or like to play with barbie dolls more than ken Dolls. All this victim mentality these days...
Interesting video. A classic, a lot of people know about it since it got put on the air. Heard it tons of times as a little kid on the car radio. Didn’t know the original was for a movie and that there is another version. The other version isn’t bad, different for sure.
I never heard of the band before, or the song, until after I heard it by my favorite cover artist, Dan Vasc. Now I know the band & the song both. Thank you Dan!
Love this attitude. I think it's sad people hate on "gateway bands." They usually became that through awesome melodies and a unique combination of styles. Plus even if you don't like them anymore it's good to appreciate how impactful they were at that time in your life and have shaped who you are now.
was having a bit of a crowd meltdown in a shopping mall at crimbo a few years back when Lithium came over the tannoy.. chilled me right out and i left grinning.. my thanks to the band.
They still play this song live but it goes just as hard without the guy. Seeing Evanescence live definitely brings a tear to the eye. Especially “My Immortal”
no, he was just a feature. he's the lead vocalist in the band 12 Stones. originally the record label were going to hold auditions and after EV was backing out, the label caved and tried to make a compromise by inviting lead vocalist of 12 Stones to join them for the song, 'cause they already had promised it to the movie soundtrack to Daredevil ( which the scene was back and forth showing the female and male leads ) and EV caved as well, allowing that to be the only song to feature male vocals. Amy was originally wanting 'Going Under' to be their first single, but it was pushed to be the 2nd single off the album.
I wonder how it would sound like though. I remember that they wanted 6 songs in the album to have rap part? I wonder what are those 6 songs? And I LOVE Bring Me To Life because of the production (The electric guitar is SOOOOOO GOOD!!! I've NEVER heard of any other Rock songs that sound like this!!!) and the male rap part, because it makes the song sounds faster!!! (And I wanna make this kinda music in the future, and the subject is gonna be about the bully that I've been through and the toxic family that makes me SOOOOOO FUCKING ANGRY btw. That's the music that I wanna make and also maybe transition to some EDM Pop music like early 2010's American Pop music btw. I think that that's my FAVORITE genre.)
That song was awesome. Still holds up and still one of the best rock songs I've ever heard. Her vocals kick ass. I enjoyed her joint performance of the song with Wagakki Band. The song with all of those Japanese instruments, orchestra & members playing... Machia does the male vocals which kills. Yuko sings with Amy and her vocals are good as well. If you haven't seen it, go watch it.
i love how amy lee originally wanted it to be just her but the execs thought it wouldn’t work out having JUST a female lead singer in the band so they put literally some random guy in the background so it would be “more likeable” and they had to have a different random guy on tour doing the vocals for that song everytime i’m glad amy was able to recreate it in her own way how it was intended
There is the original version available before they added the rap to it. I think it was on their technically first album Origin, sadly it was leaked and isnt available for purchase but theres a bunch of videos on youtube with the full album.
I've seen Evanescence live twice after believing i wouldn't even get to see them once (during their decade long break, iykyk) and have loved both experiences and hope i can someday say i saw them more
Right now they are doing more pop and rock music .only amys clothes are goth inspired .theyr actual music is now softer rock with some metal and pop elements
Noone talks about it but Imaginary, (which i to this day still call paper flowers) is one of my top five songs from that era of music. It definitely had more power and beauty than most of the "numetal" era.
Oh yeah I saw Evanescence and Halestorm in concert (amazing show) and the rap part it omitted, I think it was only kept in during her first tour and omitted afterwards.
I could go the rest of my life without ever hearing this song again, and I’ll be happy about it.. it got old after the 1000000 time they played it on the radio.
I feel like the guy rapping and singing the hook with her is awesome. The music executive who made that decision is a genius. Look how many views this song has on RUclips they're still making money off this song.
He wasn't a genius, he was a sexist who unintentionally caused a good result from the wrong decisions and reasoning. His logic was that a female voice can't carry a rock band and he was forcing the band to add male rap parts to be more marketable. He wanted them to literally add a full-time male rap vocalist and take away the spotlight from Amy entirely. He wasn't a genius, he was an idiot whose idiocy accidentally made something good.
“Dude rapping on it”. His name is Paul McCoy, and most of what he sung wasn’t rap, but hard rock. But hey, the music industry names it what they want, and who are we as mindless puppets to say otherwise?
if not for that song they wouldn't ever have been as successful tbh, i understand wanting to protect your art but sometimes it's important to let it go as well
The problem is, the record label was being blatantly sexist at the time. They legitimately were trying to force the band to hire a full-time male rapper because "There's no market for a rock band with only female vocals".
I’m a fan of reggae and dub. But my god, I fucking LOVE evanescence. Maybe it’s that they featured in an extremely important moment in my life, but I will stand by this band until the end of time.
Ben Moody, a mediocre, one-note guitarist, a commercial tyrant, and a toxic, longtime abuser. Nobody who loves Ev or likes musicianship in general misses his detracting and toxic ass.
I remember reading an interview of Linkin Park where Chester Bennington said that Meteora and Fallen were recorded at the same time in the same studio (but different rooms obviously) and the producers really liked the Linkin Park dynamic. They told Amy that since they seemed friendly enough to each other, they wanted her to actually ask him if Linkin Park could "lend" Mike Shinoda for Bring me to life. Amy didn't like it and when she talked to him about it, she treated it as a problem as she did NOT want that. Chester said he told her to "kindly" tell them to f*ck off as it was NOT happening. He ended by saying that he always thought Amy stood her ground until he heard the new version of Bring me to life on the radio with that guy who sounded a bit like Mike and he was a bit disappointed but not angry with Amy and that she should learn how to put her foot down because this industry would chew her up in no time if she didn't.
TBH I didn’t even know they were considered Nu-metal until a few years ago. I probably did hear it mentioned a few times back in the 00s/10s, but if so- it definitely flew over my head because I so strongly considered Evanescence to be making music that fell into the categories of Gothic Rock, Gothic Metal, Hard Rock, Alt Rock, Alt Metal And songs like “my immortal” were emo as all heck lol
My dad listened to evanescence, I listen to evanescence Whatever music he had in a playlist 10 years ago is the music I have in a playlist too, with some newer stuff included
I thought her singing and his rapping really complemented eachother beautifully.
Yes!! I feel like they contrast each other so well!!!!
Not that Amy hated him or songs but it feels like you feel people doubt on your ability, feeling not good enough, and someone try to interfere their creative process. The song is cool but it felt like a tragedy to remember. They want to add male vocalist in every song but in the end, the label agree only one song will feature duet.
12 Stones dude rapping was the main part of the song I even cared about!! 😂😂 Evanescence never truly captured the nu-metal vibe; it's just that song-basically.
Even bands like Orgy and Deadsy were more nu-metal, and they could be considered "black sheep" of the genre.
Evanescence was just kind of a radio-rock / alternative rock band. I wouldn't consider them nu-metal, or any type of metal. Even calling 'em nu-adjacent _(because of one song)_ is kind of a stretch. Alternative rock? Sure! That describes them more accurately.
And I'm not a chauvinist or some chit like that. There's plenty of actual female NU-metal bands. Check out Defenestration, Kittie, Velcra, and Otep; amongst others.
@@DownfallDarkness That is true, they also dont fit to be called as Nu metal because they feel, they were not.
Fun fact: the reason theres a male vocalist in the song isn't because they wanted rapping in one song but because the execs GENUINELY believed Amys voice alone could not carry the band. They thought nobody would care because shes a woman in a male dominated music scene at that time. Now, this seems silly because of Amys successful solo career and multiple albums that Evanescence has put out since the dude was removed from the band. The fact that these fools heard Amys voice and decided she wasn't good enough shows how absurdly out of touch music execs can be.
You're so right omg
OK, you're right that their reasoning was asinine. Now with that said, let's admit that the song is better because of their demand. It didn't have to be a male rapper, but the fact that it is a duet with two distinct, different voices adds a layer to the song that makes it exponentially better. Without that layer, the song is very good; great even. With that layer, the song becomes the mega hit that it was. Everybody knows the song and the reason they know it was because it was a stand out and that extra layer of depth to the vocals is the difference that made it stand out. Dual vocals is why the song is by far their biggest hit.
Yeah! They were looking for the "female version of Linkin Park". Love LP, but OMG!
The suits thought if there was just a female voice, metal listeners would think it was "for girls"
The dude wasnt removed from the band. He was a guest there for that song and that song only, he had his other band going on iirc.
oh god evanescence when my sister was in her emo phase she blasted them every single second
They’re fucking amazing! The Open Door is also a banger of an album!
I enjoyed them until I had a little sister as well. Now I despise them. Wonder why that is…
@@P-C-Principleyou don't know the chance you have that your little sister is singing evanescence... Mine wouldn't even know what it is
@pcprincipal4608 is not their fault she played the same stuff over and over. They have 5 studio albums now. (Fallen, The Open Door, Evanescence, Synthesis, and The Bitter Truth). Be open minded and listen to more than just what your little sister was playing.
Lucky
Fallen was fan favorite, but the open door had way more depth.
they went full scandinavian gothic metal with the Open Door
Actually, Fallen was and still is a mainstream audience favorite. The Open Door is the true fan favorite here
Lithium hits different.
💯💯💯 I love fallen but nothing on fallen comes close to "the last song im waisting on you"
YES.
Man I'm a dude and I love Evanescence, people call me weird as f*ck but just the sound of Amy Lee's voice contrasting the more heavier instrumentals is so cool to listen to idk
This is absurd, who calls anyone weird for listening to Evanescence. It was a very popular band among the soft-heavy fans. It has a good reputation.
@@enekaitzteixeira8144 ik that's what I'm saying, they're a cool band I just don't get people belittling others for having a preference in music
@@deciax "You're weird af for listening to bands like these"
- Some dude who listens shitty pop probably
@@blackbullet4254 lmao too true
Evanescence are awesome. Dudes who hate on them are only showing their fragile masculinity.
That rap verse put this song in a lot of video games as well. That was actually a bold move by the execs that ended up working out.
It wasn't bold at all, it was a predictably sexist label decision cause hard rock and metal was male dominated, and easy way to market it because that rap rock/nu metal sound was the popular radio sound of the time
@@carpediemearth how is it sexist
@@carpediemearth”sExIsT”
@@sayedrouf6744 the way it happened was sexist just that in this video the guy sugar coated this
But yet it made the song so eye rolling to listen to
"wake me up" is the reason I got that album and I was so happy that song hooked me enough to get the album... Beautiful lyrics, epic sound.
Miss the music of the times so bad.
Everyone loved Evanescence, partly because of the genre. Plus,Amy is awesome.
They were so huge in the early 2000s!
@@lessismore8533And nu metal was popular. That's why Evanescence, Linkin Park, Papa Roach, Korn and others got popular.
No
If you're calling her awesome, you've clearly never met her.
For those who are wondering which movie its Dare Devil
Oh boy .......
and gosh was it a stinker of a movie
Thank you!
@@harpskid It's better than all today's Marvel's movies.
And it was sick as hell when they used it lol
I’m glad it worked out the way it did because it lead me to their album that was/is awesome
In an interview, Amy Lee mentioned they told her that audiences don’t like songs with only female vocals. They insisted that because Lincoln Park was the hot new thing they wanted a male rapper added to her song. Actually they wanted a male rapper added to the band, and she had to put her foot down and settle for him to only be in the song.
Who's song was it ?
@@Airon79 It was hers. Amy Lee wrote the song at age 19 with partial songwriting credits from Ben Moody and one other guy. The rapper, McCoy, was brought in at the suggestion of the record executives. Evanescence did not want him in the song. It worked out OK because the hit went big. But it wasn’t the sound they wanted. That choice was forced on them.
Good. I have gotten better, but she was right. Most people did not like only female vocals. Amy Lee was good, but she was so stuck up. Her attitude put a lot of people off.
@GuruOfwisdom Thanks for responding !
@@kaitlyngault3987 I have to call bullshit on people not liking female vocals. Celine Dion, Mariah Carey, heart, Fleetwood Mac, there were plenty of female vocalists who were huge before evanescence. And plenty since then… Need I even mention Taylor Swift?
I’ve been a diehard fan of Evanescence for 17 years and counting. I don’t care what anyone says. She’s amazing 🔥
SAME. been a fan since they came out and still a huge fan til this day. have yet to dislike any song EV or Amy has put out yet. Fallen and The Open Door were the soundtrack of my high school days lol. currently loving The Bitter Truth.
I'll say it again, if you're calling her amazing it's because you've never personally met her.
@@Flash-fw9mqUm, you don't know that lol
Fallen is one of my favourite albums of all time and the male vocals was a definite postive on Bring me back to life.
love Amy but lets not act like Paul didnt kill this
He 100% made this song, imo. I love amy too, but I wouldn't have started listening to her, if not for the feature of my favorite band's lead singer. And I still never enjoyed her music as much as 12 Stones.
Amy literally asked paul to be the one singing because he was good, she never said he wasn’t, it just wasn’t what she had in mind when making the song
@@trackydoo lmao no he didn't 100% made this song, Amy did. He's a great addition, but if it weren't for Amy, it wouldn't be what it is, not even close. Stop exaggerating.
Also, I don't think whether or not you listened to her music would have changed or contributed to anything.
@@trackydoo lol ngl first time I hear someone met Evanescence because of 12 Stones and not the other way around, but good to see og nu-metal fans still around
@@trackydoo you’re biased because you were already a huge fan of the 12 Stones, but your opinion that he “100% made the song” couldn’t be more wrong. Their lack of success relative to EV’s confirms this.
Yo I'm 29 and that rap pulled that whole song together and inspired me to rap
I like lamp
Pity, I loathe rap and hip hop.
Yo, no one cares.... Rap sucks😂😂
@@keithbartholomew9433 rap is inspiration! Just because you don't have a taste for it doesn't make something suck.
@@keithbartholomew9433 thtas not true rap is great when great musicians do it. Im telling you this even though im a progressive rock lover
Well, I'm personally glad she featured Paul McCoy because i wouldn't have heard her music and started listening to her. I was a die hard 12 stones fan back then.
omfg my mom loved SOAD and this band sm 💀 she was emo when she had me
System of A Down is not nu Metal or Emo 😂
@@Andre-js1zh she dressed emo and also listened to evanescence though
@@Andre-js1zh soad is nu metal. first two albums atleast
Holy shit you must be so young. I feel old
@@Andre-js1zh System of a Down was nu-metal. Cry about it all you want, but they were nu-metal.
Not many female artists can still contain that voice Amy Lee projected in the band's hit album. She can still belt THAT tune. Reminds me of Ann Wilson. Real talents never fades away.
Evanescence is alive!! Amazing band 🖤🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
and will never die. no one can replace her voice.
One of the best bands ever 🔥🔥🔥
The debut album has elements of nu metal due to the record company. Evanescence is not a nu metal band. BMTL's nu metal/rap rock was forced on by their label back then as a sexist demand to market at the time. Before that, their label had demanded they permanently add a male vocal-rapper to the band because they and radio claimed there wasn't a market for a female-led hard rock band. The song sonically doesn't represent them. Neither does My Immortal, another one the label demanded because they saw it as a pop hit. They're an alternative band that blends various genres including classical music, metal, industrial, electronica, trip hop, among others.
FACTS ALL OF THIS
What you said in the last part is somewhat describing symphonic metal which is a genre i heavily associate evanescence on, one of my all time favorite bands and as much as i hate the story behind BMTL the rap still slayed tbh, but yeah id def say theyre symphonic metal and not nu metal
@@krvavaserenada I wouldn't even call them a symphonic metal band, because symphonic metal is only one part of their sound. Like gothic rock or industrial rock are also just one part of their sound. Some of their songs even have elements of r&b, electro, and soul. There isn't one specific genre that fits all their work, that's why it's probably best to just put them in the big parent genres alternative and hard rock, with the asterisk that they mix different genres. Amy's been asked before about what genre she considers Ev to be, and she said she doesn't think of it being any one specific subgenre and the reason she started Ev was to fuse different styles she loved. She writes and plays whatever she feels at the time, whether it's heavy on industrial, or on metal, or gothic vibes, or electronics, singer-songwriter ballad, or symphonic and choirs, another style, or mix of several those styles.
OK, well you say that, but off the Fallen album, BMTL pretty accurately represents Going Under, Everybody's Fool, Haunted, Tourniquet, Imaginary, Taking Over Me, My Last Breath, and Whisper. So basically, aside from My Immortal and Hello, both piano ballads, _one of which you said the label pushed,_ ALL the other songs on the Fallen album are all represented by BMTL very accurately with the lone, singular difference between it and the others being the second vocal was male instead of Amy Lee. And that singular, "sexist" difference is the reason BMTL was THE HIT of the band's career and Going Under was not. The human ear can tell it's the same person singing over themselves. If Going Under was the true duet instead of BMTL, Going Under would be the mega hit that made their career. It didn't have to be a male rapper, but it did have to be a unique voice because unique voice, that extra vocal layer, is the difference and that's what the rest of their songs that never got anywhere near as popular or iconic and everlasting as BMTL. Now, whether they should have brought on a full time male "rapper" or had Moody sing or brought in another woman to sing backup, that part can be debated. *The one thing that can't be debated is that BMTL was the big hit and the only thing that separates BMTL from 80% of the rest of that album is that a unique voice did the backing vocals.*
@@Parker-- Honestly, we will new know if BMTL would be hit without that male rapper or if Going Under would be a hit with it. I myself seriously doubt BMTLwould be such a hit with a male vocalist, as the song simply seems less catchy compared to BMTL.
However, what I can say is that without the male rapper voice on BMTL and basically half of it's chorus melody removed from BMTL, I find the song sounds much less interesting than with it. When it has that guy rappin/singing, there is a nice back and forth between the 2 vocalist, like a question and answer as it's called in music composition.
I dislike how these days everything is called racist/sexist if the proposed victem is a female or a person of color. However, when it's the other way around it's never like that. Men do not complain that girls like the disney princesses more than aladin and such or like to play with barbie dolls more than ken Dolls.
All this victim mentality these days...
Evanescence 🥰🖤🥀 Forever a part of all who dwell in creativity.
The rap part was the lead singer from 12 Stones
Jacoby Shaddix hit it better.
I never thought they were Nu Metal, to an extent…
They were a blend of Hard Rock & Alternative Metal!
Interesting video.
A classic, a lot of people know about it since it got put on the air.
Heard it tons of times as a little kid on the car radio.
Didn’t know the original was for a movie and that there is another version.
The other version isn’t bad, different for sure.
I never heard of the band before, or the song, until after I heard it by my favorite cover artist, Dan Vasc. Now I know the band & the song both. Thank you Dan!
They are the reason I'm a die hard metalhead today
Love this attitude. I think it's sad people hate on "gateway bands." They usually became that through awesome melodies and a unique combination of styles. Plus even if you don't like them anymore it's good to appreciate how impactful they were at that time in your life and have shaped who you are now.
@@notyoaveragesouthernmama5734 exactly!
Fun fact: the movie Bring me to Life was made for was Daredevil 2003
It wasn't made for the movie.
No it wasn't.
wouldn’t say it’s made for the movie, but daredevil is definitely a good movie
@evampirax pffft, nope. Am almost 30, it was mocked and was the main reason why Ben Affleck was mocked before being Batman.
Best Band Of All Time! #Evanescence
was having a bit of a crowd meltdown in a shopping mall at crimbo a few years back when Lithium came over the tannoy.. chilled me right out and i left grinning.. my thanks to the band.
Fantastic Album 👍
They still play this song live but it goes just as hard without the guy. Seeing Evanescence live definitely brings a tear to the eye. Especially “My Immortal”
That dude isn't part of the band? 💀I've loved this song for so long. Weird how little I know about the artist
no, he was just a feature. he's the lead vocalist in the band 12 Stones. originally the record label were going to hold auditions and after EV was backing out, the label caved and tried to make a compromise by inviting lead vocalist of 12 Stones to join them for the song, 'cause they already had promised it to the movie soundtrack to Daredevil ( which the scene was back and forth showing the female and male leads ) and EV caved as well, allowing that to be the only song to feature male vocals. Amy was originally wanting 'Going Under' to be their first single, but it was pushed to be the 2nd single off the album.
The rap was terrible. Cringy and awful.
I love the song!! And L❤VE the Dan Vasc cover of it!! Hes so incredible!!!❤❤❤
They wanted evanescence whole album to have a rap part every song.
I wonder how it would sound like though. I remember that they wanted 6 songs in the album to have rap part? I wonder what are those 6 songs? And I LOVE Bring Me To Life because of the production (The electric guitar is SOOOOOO GOOD!!! I've NEVER heard of any other Rock songs that sound like this!!!) and the male rap part, because it makes the song sounds faster!!!
(And I wanna make this kinda music in the future, and the subject is gonna be about the bully that I've been through and the toxic family that makes me SOOOOOO FUCKING ANGRY btw. That's the music that I wanna make and also maybe transition to some EDM Pop music like early 2010's American Pop music btw. I think that that's my FAVORITE genre.)
I'm trying to figure out where the studio would put the rap in Hello
The re-recorded version was also great as it would make me feel like flying!
Nothing wrong with being in a category with those bands, some of my favorites and very successful.
Oh my god this debate never ends , the song was awesome .. amy lee was awesome, the male vocal made it even better . End of discussion
That song was awesome. Still holds up and still one of the best rock songs I've ever heard. Her vocals kick ass. I enjoyed her joint performance of the song with Wagakki Band. The song with all of those Japanese instruments, orchestra & members playing... Machia does the male vocals which kills. Yuko sings with Amy and her vocals are good as well. If you haven't seen it, go watch it.
I loved My Immortal from them.
Legendary song
Thanks execs! Did wonders for the song and the band.
Fallen has been officially certified DIAMOND in the US for selling over 10M copies 🙌 WHAT A LEGEND!
The movie was Daredevil I had the VHS and the music video played after the movie
i love how amy lee originally wanted it to be just her but the execs thought it wouldn’t work out having JUST a female lead singer in the band so they put literally some random guy in the background so it would be “more likeable” and they had to have a different random guy on tour doing the vocals for that song everytime i’m glad amy was able to recreate it in her own way how it was intended
Better with the rap. Js..
There is the original version available before they added the rap to it. I think it was on their technically first album Origin, sadly it was leaked and isnt available for purchase but theres a bunch of videos on youtube with the full album.
I feel like you guys should stop focusing so much on the male/female part
"random guy".
Oh jeez...you must not have been alive when Fallen was released...
In Evanescence's " Going Under", the bridge where Amy sings " IIIIIIIIIII FALLLLL AGAIIINN" I get ASMR chills
And its a ppv theme in wwe 2003 in no way out
I've seen Evanescence live twice after believing i wouldn't even get to see them once (during their decade long break, iykyk) and have loved both experiences and hope i can someday say i saw them more
Actually evanessence is gothic rock genre.
Right now they are doing more pop and rock music .only amys clothes are goth inspired .theyr actual music is now softer rock with some metal and pop elements
alternative metal and hard rock too. and that all together often goes to nu metal
Noone talks about it but Imaginary, (which i to this day still call paper flowers) is one of my top five songs from that era of music. It definitely had more power and beauty than most of the "numetal" era.
She's a godess
Oh yeah I saw Evanescence and Halestorm in concert (amazing show) and the rap part it omitted, I think it was only kept in during her first tour and omitted afterwards.
Yeah, they're Alternative Metal/Gothic Metal, some some Nu Metal influneces here anf there m
It's a good juxtaposition, they compliment each other very well. But I'm glad they continued on with their own style.
Fun fact, they have the rap-less version on the radio now and it's pretty damn empty sounding
I could go the rest of my life without ever hearing this song again, and I’ll be happy about it.. it got old after the 1000000 time they played it on the radio.
I feel like the guy rapping and singing the hook with her is awesome. The music executive who made that decision is a genius. Look how many views this song has on RUclips they're still making money off this song.
He wasn't a genius, he was a sexist who unintentionally caused a good result from the wrong decisions and reasoning. His logic was that a female voice can't carry a rock band and he was forcing the band to add male rap parts to be more marketable. He wanted them to literally add a full-time male rap vocalist and take away the spotlight from Amy entirely.
He wasn't a genius, he was an idiot whose idiocy accidentally made something good.
This rapping in the middle of a song is now done regularly !
“Dude rapping on it”. His name is Paul McCoy, and most of what he sung wasn’t rap, but hard rock. But hey, the music industry names it what they want, and who are we as mindless puppets to say otherwise?
It was rap.
@@LAkadian right bro was spitting
I wouldn't have considered what Paul McCoy did as rapping either. 🤷🏻 I LOVED 12 stones back then!
Yes he growl and he rap, a kind of mix. I never heard a rapper growling for sure
@@marcandreveilleux2485Listen to Linkin Park - Blackout, you will hear a second rapper growling there
She also manage to get popular with all the fans of nu-metal with this song which increased her popularity.
if not for that song they wouldn't ever have been as successful tbh, i understand wanting to protect your art but sometimes it's important to let it go as well
Which they did :)
@@FutileGriefWhich he said is the lesson :)
The problem is, the record label was being blatantly sexist at the time. They legitimately were trying to force the band to hire a full-time male rapper because "There's no market for a rock band with only female vocals".
Amy Lee was just gorgeous.
Her voice matched.
I was surprised when her and Shaun Morgan started going out. And again when they broke up.
tbh the rap lines in the chorus was SO well inserted, the song genuinely is better for it
Real retard moments
it's amazing how she looks like jonathan davis now, both of them were my high school crushes
Whatever happened to kitty
They're still out there touring I don't know if it's the original lineup
She is perfect, have everything.. Voice, look, music style, simply perfect
I’m a fan of reggae and dub. But my god, I fucking LOVE evanescence. Maybe it’s that they featured in an extremely important moment in my life, but I will stand by this band until the end of time.
"Dude rapping on it" Made the song what it is today and is the sole reason the song has any sort of popularity, she can choke on that
lmao ok bud
Honey please...
Amy Lee has incredible vocals and that's why the song was famous. But the song is really good with the rap part in it
The delusion 😂
@@carpediemearth she has thinking she's the reason that song is popular
I love the band so much
Evanescence was never Nu- Metal dude.
sry but yes they were
@@Parker--then it’s pretty clear you have no idea what Nu-Metal is.
@@DuurstonNo, _your_ problem is that I actually understand the ambiguity of nu-metal, kiddo.
I’ve always thought that the synthesis version looked like the in utero album cover
I miss Ben Moody in the band :(
Ben Moody, a mediocre, one-note guitarist, a commercial tyrant, and a toxic, longtime abuser. Nobody who loves Ev or likes musicianship in general misses his detracting and toxic ass.
Don't forget "My Immortal" was originally a vocal solo. That's my favorite version.
Numetal is unbelievably awful. Can’t believe that was the sound of the early 2000s
I mean... I saw you on MTV ... and FELL IN LOVE!!!
But Evanescence is still nu metal eaven it their other songs sound different
An the song we all love an know is now a classic an legendary we I'll never forget
Whats funny is that they at one point did this song live with Coby from Papa Roach on guest vocals.
i still need more songs like bring me to life
I miss nu metal. Those were some good years
Thank you, May God bless you, her, them and everyone. ❤
Well the record company made the right move because when the beat drops with him on it is what made it a hit in my eyes.
Amy Lee's voice made that sound hit on many levels.
I love Fallen, it has no skips
She gave the audience a performance worth maxing credit cards for.
I remember reading an interview of Linkin Park where Chester Bennington said that Meteora and Fallen were recorded at the same time in the same studio (but different rooms obviously) and the producers really liked the Linkin Park dynamic. They told Amy that since they seemed friendly enough to each other, they wanted her to actually ask him if Linkin Park could "lend" Mike Shinoda for Bring me to life. Amy didn't like it and when she talked to him about it, she treated it as a problem as she did NOT want that. Chester said he told her to "kindly" tell them to f*ck off as it was NOT happening. He ended by saying that he always thought Amy stood her ground until he heard the new version of Bring me to life on the radio with that guy who sounded a bit like Mike and he was a bit disappointed but not angry with Amy and that she should learn how to put her foot down because this industry would chew her up in no time if she didn't.
Amy's voice is haunting, not for pop radio, more for gothic dark metal. This was there only big hit. They had a semi-hit with their next album.
Props on the winged eagle by the way. Coolest heavyweight belt ever created!!
Do a pop punk bands that hated being called pop punk or Emo bands that hated being called Emo please
I like both versions but the male vocals version is much better
I was lucky enough to have a parent into evanescence when i was growing up, i new damn near every song
TBH I didn’t even know they were considered Nu-metal until a few years ago. I probably did hear it mentioned a few times back in the 00s/10s, but if so- it definitely flew over my head because I so strongly considered Evanescence to be making music that fell into the categories of Gothic Rock, Gothic Metal, Hard Rock, Alt Rock, Alt Metal
And songs like “my immortal” were emo as all heck lol
that’s crazy cuz everytime i hear that song i wonder why there’s just a guy randomly in the middle. i never thought it was bad just random
Been a fan since their first single. I'm seeing them in October. 🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷
My dad listened to evanescence, I listen to evanescence
Whatever music he had in a playlist 10 years ago is the music I have in a playlist too, with some newer stuff included
I listen to evanescence to this day.
Evanescence will be my favorite band til I die
Its a great song. Love Evanescense
Synthesis is AMAZING!!
As a goth and metalhead, nu-metal bands like Evanescence was my gateway for heavier metal and actual goth music.
FYI the movie is Daredevil where the single shows up. 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉