I have an F80 but will be the first to admit the B58 and the ZF 8HP is a potent combination. It's almost impossible to compare cars of this caliber. We're living through the golden years of BMW I6's and it's glorious. The next generation will look back like we do to the RX7, 2JZ and Godzilla.
This literally was one of the best review/comparison videos ive ever watched. I rarely watch longer videos from start to finish and this one i watched from 0 to finish! Def subscribed and ur pushing me more towards the 340i investment soon!! Love both cars super clean and beautiful machines guys!
I just picked up a 2013 335i a few weeks ago as the new daily. Absolutely love it and it’s perfect for me since I have to drive up to 700 miles per week for work, and the places I have to go sometimes would definitely be sketchy to have an M 😭 will be driving the 335i til I can get the f30 340i, which is just the dream daily, looks better than g20 imo. Still have an e30 325ix w the 5 speed for the weekend car.
I have the M340i and love it, can’t wait to drive every day, wanted to go up to the M3 for more hp since I live in Cali and don’t mod my cars but was worried about the M3 not being as good as a daily.
As far as comfortability in a daily, the M340i is de wei 😂. Plus you get the newer tech. A custom tune and high flow dp is all you need to get into F80 power
Great comparison fellas! You guys definitely covered all the pros and cons of both, so it's really up to the buyer to decided which car will fit their needs the best. It would be good to see a head to head drag race in Mexico next 😉😂
Thanks bro! Yeah I always tend to baby other peoples cars, but Ben’s used to driving so many others cars on the daily 😂. Should’ve roasted his tires more he has the tire and wheel package.. 🤣🤣
Awesome comparison on two sick cars. For the b58 transmission, have you considered making changes in the XHP shift map editor? You can manually configure the shift points meaning that you can tailor the transmission performance (e.g. hold a certain gear for longer/shorter or downshift quicker/slower). I’m running XHP stage 3 with a very similar setup (stock HPFP, intake, dp, cat-back exhaust, BM3 stg 2) and just started experimenting with the shift maps. Really didn’t know there was so much you could configure in XHP when I initially got it. Definitely a must with a tuned car imo.
Thanks a lot for the support!! Yeah it’s crossed my mind ever since I flashed it with XHP. Honestly just a bit intimidated by the process 🤣🤣. Definitely going to work on it though and share that in a video. Agreed, XHP is a game changer paired with a tune
I just bought an F80 M3. The 340i has more in common with a 318i than it does with an M3. The handling is on another level as is the delivery of power.
@@skrrtproductions I've returned it man! The tyre noise in the cabin was absolutely awful due to a combination of bad UK town roads, 20 inch wheels with low profile tyres, a lot less noise insulation being used and the car being solid mounted at the rear subframe. It's a great car in all other ways, the handling and performance is amazing and it's comfortable to drive in the bucket seats but I can't live with that tyre roar, it's present at even low speeds. F30 for the win, glad I didn't sell my 330D. I need a do it all car but this one wasn't good enough to be a daily driver with the annoying noisy cabin.
F80 is the only choice. Better seats, better brakes, much better looks, carbon bit and roof everywhere, The chassis are completely different, as such the driving dynamics are completely different, the DCT and M LSD combine to create a unique beast of a car, that must be tamed by the driver. The M has a so much grip - much more planted in the corners. I owned a F30 (n55 FBO) and upgraded to the F80…. The revs to 7.2k with little lag or torque reduction feels NA, the drivetrain is incredible although like a rabid animal trying to kill you every chance it gets. F30 vs F80 is like comparing apples and oranges
@@Trithij I do agree that it sounds really bad and raspy stock but if you look up some videos you'll see people have come up with some ways to make it sound great. That being said, you shouldn't have to modify the exhaust to make it not sound bad on a $100k car, but such is life. They're both great cars.
I've had an F30 330D for 6 years now and loved it, tempted to switch over to an F80 M3 just for the experience of owning an M car. Does the F80 have much better handling than the F30? that would be a deciding factor me. I'm looking for a more agile car.
@@skrrtproductionsI test drove an F80. It was 'too much' lol. Great for a blast outside of the city but as a daily that droning noise of the engine would annoy me. It's sacrilege but my remapped 330D felt quicker at legal city limits due to the huge torque. I haven't completely ruled out the M3 but it's made me appreciate my car more. I think you have to drive the M3 like a maniac to fully appreciate it.
@@skrrtproductions drilled rotors have less surface area. Most track rats prefer full face rotors that's why I am selling my drilled ones. Nos as good braking.
Did you have your car tuned to stage 2 before upgrading to 2+ with the HPFP ? If so would you say there's a big difference ? And what fuel are you running on ? I only have 91 octane available where I live and I'm trying to decide if it's worth over 1 grand from stage 2 to stage 2+
Yes I was stage 2 for a bit before going stage 2+. Definitely a difference even just on 93. More throttle response and pulls harder. Once I added an E50 mix, that’s when it really felt good and increased a lot of power
😂😂 toughhh. The F8X is superior but with the way the economy is going.. idk.. All depends on your personal situation. The 340i is still a super fun and enjoyable car (with mods) 😂
@terrancecollins2696 the thing that keeps me away from the m3 or m4 is that once u start going fbo stage 2+ u needa get the crankhub issue fixed for peacs of mind.
I would say the M3 is a masculin looking car for a real sophisticated Man. The 340i amazing car but a bit teenager car with defined lines. Regardless of power, comfort and a daily drive. Talking about looking and feeling point.
One way to look at it but that’s completely subjective. One is designed more for the track, and the other is designed more for daily use. Hence the entire design and price point. Some ppl buy an M3 for the “status” and some ppl buy one and use it to its actual potential on track. To each their own
The two are markedly different chassis, differential, and transmission…Each individual component contributes to the entire handling differences. Ride height, spring rate, suspension arm geometry and weight, damping rates, elastomer mounts/stops durometer, presence or absence of rigid pivots, tires, steering ratio and leverage, DSC, ABS and suspension software, etc., etc. All of these things are different from a base car to the M car and they all add up in each model in a very noticeable fashion. If you want the best handling go for the M, hands down, no questions ….. OR 🤡 buy the base car and mod the piss out of it, typically making many things actually worse and then boast about how the base car can be made the same/better than the STOCK ///M for less money... riiiiiight 🫠
I have an F80 but will be the first to admit the B58 and the ZF 8HP is a potent combination. It's almost impossible to compare cars of this caliber. We're living through the golden years of BMW I6's and it's glorious. The next generation will look back like we do to the RX7, 2JZ and Godzilla.
Agreed! Especially with the xhp trans flash it gets pretty aggressive. Future classics indeed! Thanks for tuning in 🙏🏼
The N55 just gets so much disrespect 😤
This literally was one of the best review/comparison videos ive ever watched. I rarely watch longer videos from start to finish and this one i watched from 0 to finish! Def subscribed and ur pushing me more towards the 340i investment soon!! Love both cars super clean and beautiful machines guys!
Wow, thanks! Glad you enjoyed it. The B58 is such a good engine, sounds good and performs great. Good bang for your buck.
I just picked up a 2013 335i a few weeks ago as the new daily. Absolutely love it and it’s perfect for me since I have to drive up to 700 miles per week for work, and the places I have to go sometimes would definitely be sketchy to have an M 😭 will be driving the 335i til I can get the f30 340i, which is just the dream daily, looks better than g20 imo. Still have an e30 325ix w the 5 speed for the weekend car.
Nice man! Yeah a tuned B58 is an awesome daily
I have the M340i and love it, can’t wait to drive every day, wanted to go up to the M3 for more hp since I live in Cali and don’t mod my cars but was worried about the M3 not being as good as a daily.
As far as comfortability in a daily, the M340i is de wei 😂. Plus you get the newer tech. A custom tune and high flow dp is all you need to get into F80 power
Great comparison fellas! You guys definitely covered all the pros and cons of both, so it's really up to the buyer to decided which car will fit their needs the best. It would be good to see a head to head drag race in Mexico next 😉😂
Thanks fam! 🤣 The 340i would definitely hold its own with the current mods 😬
Fire vid brothers! I was laughing the whole time 😂🙌🏽. Tons of valid points for both platforms. Ben’s pull and yalls reaction had me dying 🤣👏🏽
Thanks bro! Yeah I always tend to baby other peoples cars, but Ben’s used to driving so many others cars on the daily 😂. Should’ve roasted his tires more he has the tire and wheel package.. 🤣🤣
You guys did a great job. Now imagine that 340i with the M Performance Package, Track Package, & 6 speed Manual 😉. Well that’s my Machine. 😂
Hahah 6 speed would be fun in these cars. A lot of the time I’m shifting manual mode with the shifter 😆
Awesome comparison on two sick cars. For the b58 transmission, have you considered making changes in the XHP shift map editor? You can manually configure the shift points meaning that you can tailor the transmission performance (e.g. hold a certain gear for longer/shorter or downshift quicker/slower).
I’m running XHP stage 3 with a very similar setup (stock HPFP, intake, dp, cat-back exhaust, BM3 stg 2) and just started experimenting with the shift maps. Really didn’t know there was so much you could configure in XHP when I initially got it. Definitely a must with a tuned car imo.
Thanks a lot for the support!! Yeah it’s crossed my mind ever since I flashed it with XHP. Honestly just a bit intimidated by the process 🤣🤣. Definitely going to work on it though and share that in a video. Agreed, XHP is a game changer paired with a tune
@@skrrtproductions word! Once I get it dialed in I’ll hit you up on Instagram and share the settings I’m running 🤙🏼
@@b58pham87 that’d be awesome 🙏🏼 I’ll definitely give you credit!
Great video brotha! Had a ton of full filming it with you! Looking forward to the next one ✊🏽
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I just bought an F80 M3. The 340i has more in common with a 318i than it does with an M3. The handling is on another level as is the delivery of power.
Congrats on the F80 man enjoy!
@@skrrtproductions I've returned it man! The tyre noise in the cabin was absolutely awful due to a combination of bad UK town roads, 20 inch wheels with low profile tyres, a lot less noise insulation being used and the car being solid mounted at the rear subframe. It's a great car in all other ways, the handling and performance is amazing and it's comfortable to drive in the bucket seats but I can't live with that tyre roar, it's present at even low speeds. F30 for the win, glad I didn't sell my 330D. I need a do it all car but this one wasn't good enough to be a daily driver with the annoying noisy cabin.
F80 is the only choice. Better seats, better brakes, much better looks, carbon bit and roof everywhere, The chassis are completely different, as such the driving dynamics are completely different, the DCT and M LSD combine to create a unique beast of a car, that must be tamed by the driver. The M has a so much grip - much more planted in the corners. I owned a F30 (n55 FBO) and upgraded to the F80…. The revs to 7.2k with little lag or torque reduction feels NA, the drivetrain is incredible although like a rabid animal trying to kill you every chance it gets. F30 vs F80 is like comparing apples and oranges
🤣🤣 yeah that’s why so many F8x cars get wrecked. Not for inexperienced drivers, especially once tuned.
F80 sounds total shit. Will be absolutely dusted by Xdrive 340i 90% of the time.
@@Trithijcry 😂
@@philip244 About what? F80 is shit in anything but looks. Sounds epicly dreadful, especially with modified exhaust.
@@Trithij I do agree that it sounds really bad and raspy stock but if you look up some videos you'll see people have come up with some ways to make it sound great. That being said, you shouldn't have to modify the exhaust to make it not sound bad on a $100k car, but such is life. They're both great cars.
Really enjoyed the content 👌 I like the explanation
Thanks for your feedback! Glad you enjoyed 🙏🏼
This video was great. I also love your buddy Ben he’s hilarious 🤣
Thanks man! He’s quite the funny guy 🤣 🤙🏼
I own an e46 m3 and it's interesting how much the M's act the same disreguard being 10+ years different
Yeah exactly. Similar legacy, just advancements in tech
I prefer the 340 , more potential and in my opinion a better engine. And XHP 3 is way better then 2
I still gotta try stage 3 and work on dialing in the settings for xhp. Did you do any custom configurations in xhp or just stage 3 as is?
Clown literally know nothing about cars clearly 😂
Great video bro!! I would love to move on a F80 anytime soon!!
Thanks man! Yeah they’re just fun cars to drive. Never a dull moment
I've had an F30 330D for 6 years now and loved it, tempted to switch over to an F80 M3 just for the experience of owning an M car. Does the F80 have much better handling than the F30? that would be a deciding factor me. I'm looking for a more agile car.
Indeed brother. Night and day difference in the corners
@@skrrtproductionsI test drove an F80. It was 'too much' lol. Great for a blast outside of the city but as a daily that droning noise of the engine would annoy me. It's sacrilege but my remapped 330D felt quicker at legal city limits due to the huge torque. I haven't completely ruled out the M3 but it's made me appreciate my car more. I think you have to drive the M3 like a maniac to fully appreciate it.
damn NEITHER OF YALL DID DONUTS!, haha dope vid guys.
🤣🤣 it’s too tempting in the F80. Thanks fam 🫡
S55 all day. This shouldn’t even be debatable
It’s not a debate
“Smiles per gallon” 🤣🤣🤣
What it’s all about 😎😄
Seems like break, clutch (dual), and suspension are biggest between the two.
Yes. Also superior engine/cooling with an extra turbo
You check your pants Kylar? LOL
Ben thought we were on the track 🤣
Last proper m3 was the e92.
Nah the 340i is the better than both of them. 😂 jk, you’re not wrong
Slow but Jesus do they sound good lol
@@skrrtproductions you’re and idiot you’ve clearly never driven a ///M. It’s a completely different car chassis mate
I really hope you don't track with those cross drilled rotors.
Why not?
@@skrrtproductions drilled rotors have less surface area. Most track rats prefer full face rotors that's why I am selling my drilled ones. Nos as good braking.
Got a question, I can’t find any 340i with that kind of interior, with all the alcantara and carbon fibre - did you do all that yourself?
Yeah it’s OEM and installed it after I bought it. Made vids on all the mods I’ve done! Definitely changes up the feel of the interior quite a bit
Man it will take a lot for me to let someone drive my car lol
😂😂 feel you but we’re both good friends, and trust each other’s abilities. Didn’t get too crazy
Hahaha BF8 vs S55 is a good comparison. But reliability vs performance is obvious
All comes down to budget or if the person wants to build a monster B58 powered car for cheaper
Fun seeing yall rip on each other's cars lol. "IVE NEVER DONE THAT IN MY CAR" lol. Good points all across. Sell Ben your car lol
😂😂😂 yeah I’ve never gone from 20mph to the speed that will remain unknown 🤣. If he’s willing to pay a healthy price he can take it 😆
You really can’t talk about the power until it’s in stage 2+
I’m there now, on E50 the 340 is mooovin
@@skrrtproductions ohh yea I know, I was saying nothin even compares until it’s at stage 2+ !
2 be honest I’d be happy with either of those 2 lovely’s cars.
I do like the carbon hood I’d like one of those for my 1 M
Happy cruising guys
Can’t go wrong with either 😮💨👌🏼. The carbon hood is really nice! Def not cheap for the OEM one haha. Thanks for watching, happy cruising! 🤙🏼
As they sit, which one was faster?
In this video probably the M3 but now my 340i is making 50-60 more whp than a stock F80 comp
Great video! How much was the GTS hood for the M3?
Too much 😂. It’s on Turner Motorsport for $5,900 and that’s not including paint or PPF if you choose to do so
@@skrrtproductions 😳
Did you have your car tuned to stage 2 before upgrading to 2+ with the HPFP ? If so would you say there's a big difference ? And what fuel are you running on ? I only have 91 octane available where I live and I'm trying to decide if it's worth over 1 grand from stage 2 to stage 2+
Yes I was stage 2 for a bit before going stage 2+. Definitely a difference even just on 93. More throttle response and pulls harder. Once I added an E50 mix, that’s when it really felt good and increased a lot of power
Bro dogged his f30 and this foo barely throttled the m3 🤦🏽♂️
😵💫😵💫😵💫
My current dilemma right now lol do I save the money or just say fuck it and get the F8x
😂😂 toughhh. The F8X is superior but with the way the economy is going.. idk.. All depends on your personal situation. The 340i is still a super fun and enjoyable car (with mods) 😂
@@skrrtproductions I’d definitely do FBO no matter what lol I’ve driven a few F8x so I just have to test drive an F3x
@terrancecollins2696 the thing that keeps me away from the m3 or m4 is that once u start going fbo stage 2+ u needa get the crankhub issue fixed for peacs of mind.
Ur b58 sounds like an s55 how tf
A better sounding S55 ;) 😂😂. Dual res delete
@@skrrtproductions wait duel res delete and no maps to sound like that?
///M3 IS BETTER !
I would say the M3 is a masculin looking car for a real sophisticated Man. The 340i amazing car but a bit teenager car with defined lines. Regardless of power, comfort and a daily drive. Talking about looking and feeling point.
One way to look at it but that’s completely subjective. One is designed more for the track, and the other is designed more for daily use. Hence the entire design and price point. Some ppl buy an M3 for the “status” and some ppl buy one and use it to its actual potential on track. To each their own
The M3 still sounds like ass, just louder :)
🤣🤣 not wrong
This is a long ass video tf!
It’s a full drive and review of 2 cars 😅😂
@@skrrtproductionsStill, there’s no way I’m clicking on this, but I wish I can
It’s unfortunate this video is not for you. I put a lot of work into it. I appreciate your feedback though.
@@skrrtproductionsSorry man, I’ll subscribe to you tho still
🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
The two are markedly different chassis, differential, and transmission…Each individual component contributes to the entire handling differences. Ride height, spring rate, suspension arm geometry and weight, damping rates, elastomer mounts/stops durometer, presence or absence of rigid pivots, tires, steering ratio and leverage, DSC, ABS and suspension software, etc., etc. All of these things are different from a base car to the M car and they all add up in each model in a very noticeable fashion. If you want the best handling go for the M, hands down, no questions ….. OR 🤡 buy the base car and mod the piss out of it, typically making many things actually worse and then boast about how the base car can be made the same/better than the STOCK ///M for less money... riiiiiight 🫠
Great summary 👌🏼