If you enjoyed this an dwant to learn more about another faction in Trench Crusade, check out my video on The Iron Sultanate - ruclips.net/video/1M1PNGw6-gs/видео.html
@@scannerbarklyconsidering that faith is unironically powerful enough to manifest miracles in this universe. Imagine what would happen to one of these spies if they saw a Paladin at work.
Atleast Nurgle alleviates your suffering and gives meaning to your degradation. Nurgle loves you in a strange twisted way, but Beelzebub just hates you.
I like how the death commandos are not “invisible” just because they refract light, but also because their armour utilises an innocent heart in order to hide from God himself
The thing I love most about tabletop games and the idea of a "setting" is that you can safely get excited for any property that looks promising. They're not gonna release in a broken state, they're not gonna have predatory microtransactions, out of touch producers aren't going to demand a role for their nephew, it's simply great art, writing, and sculpting that you can use as fuel for your imagination. I've always thought that dark fantasy illustrations like this, Warhammer, Berserk, D&D, and more traditional artists like Alan Lee have this quality that you can sink into, every choice the artist makes seems to have a greater story that goes as far back as it would in real life.
You can also just freeze it at the point you like it. I love the original Necromunda, and the 3rd edition Warhammer 40K, and Cyberpunk 2020, so that is what I can play with friends. Nobody is coming along to try and delete the books i love. :)
I wish we had more information on the hell faction it has so much potential also Thank you for making this glorious video may thine Videos grow to be as renowned as the Iron wall
I am hoping we will get a lot more lore around specific characters and power players in the faction as time goes on. I'm also really curious about any prominent humans who threw in their lot with the forces of hell!
@scannerbarkly I agree with you on wanting more information on specific characters and power players like I want to know more about Duke Constantine and the 7th meta christ
Honestly im not relgious but i do play warhammer. The way the paladins are explained in this and how they cant make them anymore or even their armor but they are also the only ones who can go into the gates of hell and are paragons of humanity that the enemy fears is really badass
It fits perfectly into my favourite depiction of fantasy Knights. Any fool can slap plate armour on his body, pick up a sword and declare himself a Knight of the realm. But in the end what really matters is how one reacts to a faceless abomination from the pit charging directly at them.
The lore is interesting because it's super cool and intriguing. The game is interesting because it lit an M80 firecracker, put it between it's teeth and threw itself head first down a spiral staircase.
"Yeah, so we're gonna rip reality apart at the most fundamental level, and that's gonna convert into an absolutely absurd amount of energy. Please stand by while the power of the sun erases you from existence."
unfornatly it seems in this universe the powers of hell beat humanity to the nukes. antioch was destroyed by a hell nuke before it became new antioch. then again angels basically act like nukes just by existing on earth so not totally lost yet.
Trench crusade is so incredibly grim-derp, but instead of being satirical (like early warhammer), it takes itself so INCREDIBLY seriously that you have to kinda respect it's tryhardness
Yeah. One of the reasons I like it is because it has the late 80s early 90s vibe that I started the hobby with. Shit just went hard because at the time doing so went against the grain. The weird thing now is that everybody takes EVERYTHING so seriously all the time. TC is definitely a serious world, but the folks making it are just trying to have some fun and recapture that 90s vibe.
Is it though, or is that just a 4chan buzzword nonsense? Its a game that takes the horrors and brutality of World War 1 and combines it with the gruesome ideas that exist within the Abrahamic faiths, taken to 11. The tone is consistent, the world-building is rad, and it builds an absolutely metal picture of this "black metal album cover" setting.
That's actually the devil's fate. His kingdom is like a pyramid, with him at the top, and the increasingly suffering masses under his control bearing progressively more and more weight toward the bottom. However, when the devil faces judgment, this system will be reversed, and all the souls he led into damnation will weigh on top of him. He will be eternally crushed by the very souls he brought down with him. He won't even be able to feel satisfaction for damning them because they will be above him and suffering less than he will. Don't let those dreams try to put his punishment on you. Think of it as a good sign, because the devil attacks those closest to God the most.
The way the game seems to focus a lot on Beelzebub and his unholy works and followers makes me wonder if the creator is a Warhammer Nurgle fan. Also, teh designs of the Plague Knights looks cool and well done.
So you burn the yourself to get into the army where subsequently fight in trenches until you die, then you burn in hell. Sounds like a great deal for those heretic legions. I can totally see why they are so eager to join up.
I wonder what Asia and Africa are doing during all this? Will the heretics take all of the new worlds or do the crusaders hold South America while heretics hold the north
With the state Europe is in, I doubt that there is any knowledge of the new world. Too busy killing heretics to explore the world. It would be cool if the Mayans sailed across the ocean and discovered them first. That would technically make Europe the “new world”
Reading the lore, it mentions that the “Domains of Africa” pays tithe to New Antioch. They could be colonies, could also just be Christian African nations.
I doubt anyone knows about the new world. Too busy killing heretics I bet. It would be cool if the Mayans sailed across the ocean and discovered them first. That would technically make Europe the “New World”
I doubt anyone knows about the new world. It would be cool if the Mayans sailed across the ocean and discovered them first. That would technically make Europe the “New World”
Considering all sides have access to supernatural knowledĝe i assume that includes a map of the world. So, presumably, they are fighting proxy wars but very little european colonisation because no one has the resources to fully exploit the new world
I've seen most of these concept art images on Google for the past few years before this whole series was really a thing, I'm kind of Hoping that someone will make specialized Art for this genre Because the concept art is cool and all but it just brings me back to when I was in middle school and I thought it all looked edgy and awesome. I don't recognize everyone of the backgrounds being shown but I recognize the majority of them as stuff taken off Google.
Why is it always the upside down crosses that people get wrong? Like people know that's St. Peter's cross right? Not at all satanic or demonic but whatever. Still cool lore
If I recall correctly, the reason St. Peter wanted to be crucified upside down was symbolic. It was a statement that the values of the people were upside down. So, if you think about it in that way, an inverted cross symbolizes the inverted values of christianity.
@@zaneaustin3021 Nope. Peter was crucified upside down because he requested it, saying that he wished not to be crucified the same way as his Lord as he denied Jesus 3 times. It's a symbol of humility. It's mostly a catholic tradition, far as I'm aware.
From what i gather so far, what Easter Orthodox see it as The upside down cross (Cross of Peter) is a sign of Humility, and respect for Christ. And when people use it wrong, some say its an Irony, and some see it as disrespcatble. But, God teach through irony, so there are some Irony in the miss use of it. Simple as.
Khorne Berserkers go feral if they aren't murder fucking something. Tzeentch can turn you inside out, still alive just cause he thought it'd be funny and Slaanesh, well, it's Slaanesh. Nurgle does hook up his followers by removing their sense of pain but God forbid you piss him off cause he can flip all those pain receptors back on at will. The gods of Chaos in 40k are only going to benefit you if you are a useful tool, once you're not, it's a million times worse than before you worshiped them.
@@tamlandipper29 " We are no longer weaklings trembling before an unmerciful God. We say blessed be the mighty-minded for they shall ride the whirlwinds. " Ramman , Anointed of the XXI Heretic Legion " Widowmakers "
@scannerbarkly The sound of your voice as you tell of baleful dooms and the ambitions of hell somehow gives it an authenticity. Many of us Americans are accustomed to associating priests and Catholicism with your accent, and we have a cultural history of associating the horrors of the inferno with a minister speaking. It's your normal speech, but a happy accident that adds to your narrative voice as a sort of preacher/prophet of fictional perdition and war.
I'm deffo intrigued by this grim shit. I liked the idea of turnip too but this sounds even cooler tbh. I like the Iron Sultanate Hopefully we see the minis soon
Something ive noticed, and i dont know much about like christian "Demonology" so idk if thats accurate to ttue christian "Lore" but i find it interesting that the sort of home bases of both beezlebub and the Death spectre guy are the 7th layer of hell specifically. Is this following dante's structure of hell where hell is multiple layers designated for each specific sin, or is it just sort of a vague/not elaborated upon "layered" shape? Also quite like the vid, i was exposed to trench crusade like yesterday by some great art/narration channel i dont remember seeing the name of and then got recommended your channel for lore
Time to leave warhemmer and go into a new land. Also kinda sad how this feels more like chaos than the chaos in 40k right now before slannesh had naked demon khorn demons where brutal nurgle was disgusting and tzzench looked like an abomination rather than cute birds 🦅.
@@judeduval5724Thank you- you’re exactly right. Warhammer is what you make it. Don’t like cutesy 8th edition Death Guard? Neither do the rest of us back in 30K.
You do understand that this company is worker than Games Workshop, right? They ban you on their Discord if you ever joked about The Message™️ This isn’t an alternative I’m sad to say
I’m kind of curious about the mindset of people who pledge themselves to Hell. Cuz like, in Warhammer, that question with Chaos has many answers that have been explored at length, but this is a different world and cosmology. Do they view the Abrahamic God as something that can be defeated? Do they view themselves as superior? What do they get out of serving the demon lords? Is there a particular end goal in mind? What is their theology like?
I heard from another comment the reason they join and fight is that each soldier in the heretic legion believe that they are special and different and are the chosen one so they won’t suffer the infinite torture all the other souls will. Or desperation. If you’re already damned might as well try move up hells heirchy by committing atrocities.
Pointless hubris, they're the people who genuinely think 'I'm built different' and think there's something to gain, that there's anything to this other than satisfying the bitter resentment of the arch devils as they drive humanity to violate humanity even as they themselves suffer for their escalating crimes. It's the point of why 'heresy' was historically so reviled, because it's so 'self-evidently' stupid and self-destructive. The salvation of the gospel wasn't a matter of opinion or debate, the details within it were but the truth of it WAS truth. That's what the heretic legions are in this setting, ludicrous and self-destructive fools spiting the world for no benefit.
@@scannerbarkly Gotcha I'll just use my old castle ruin and temple terrain. That oughta do lol. Thanks for making these videos, me and the bois will be watching this project very closely!
@@disturbedrenegade9815 It definitely would be a good way to help build the world more and make the campaigns more immersive for sure. Im very excited for this hobby, have been binging lore ever since I learned of it.
am i mental or did the chorister get two entries? one had the sin eater as the background image and the other had the chorister as the background image
You can find some lore vids on Trench Officers channel here - www.youtube.com/@a_random_orthodox_Christian I shall also be doing more vids myself, with one on The Iron Sultanate coming later today. :)
Kitbashing is highly encouraged by the devs although they are releasing optional minis for it as well, there is some free rules on their site at the moment but the full book will be coming out on PDF & bound paper after the kickstarter I believe
This game gives serious, blood bourne/dark souls/elden rings vibes. Ive just subscribed to the newsletter and will definitely be jumping on the Kickstarter
Love the content... HOWEVER... Please COOL it with the ads!! It's not worth it if all you do is skip adds every few words apart... also makes it so you CANNOT sleep to these....
I'm not trying to be funny but I keep thinking there's going to be a judeo depiction and I keep feeling like it's going to be like the mechanicus with an emphasis on golems
It's a fun question, no doubt. The easy answer is that God did just snap his fingers and put everything right, there wouldn't be much of a game to play. lol We can also argue that God does have direct intervention in the form miracles performed by certain troops, certain technological discoveries that inform weapons and armor, and you could even argue that elements of the world such as the Meta-Christ indicate that he is taking action to help. I think the good thing is that the playerbase will come up with all manner of theories. I like the idea that this is turning mankind into something that it needs to be, one way or the other.
The reason for this is that, Jesus (the most high GOD walking the earth in a flesh body, just like we for now inhabit) has told us all things; of the which, there are a great many that needs yet to happen down here in the murk under the sun. And they shall come to pass. So he does as you inquire, but not yet. Yes, you are being tested; and GOD breaks the weak. Mark 13 (kjv) (it is important to use a kjv, as that is meted out with what is known as the Strong's Concordance, so all the words can be looked up and defined; even though the Bible has a built in dictionary, that is enough, it is the only assembled writings in existence to have such a thing - and that cannot be explained away or disregarded in any honesty. Or an older version. The new "versions" that have newly "sprang up" have been altered in a quite vile way by some quite vain fellows; and there is a penalty that will rest upon them for doing what they have purposefully done. Notwithstanding, GOD promised to preserve His Word to all "Generations" and send teachers, and lo, He has.) Revelation 22:18-19 (kjv)
I know you’re likely not intending on plagiarizing, but please do cite the source or reference via a visual indicator when quoting something like the lore sampler. It’ll save you a lot of pain.
I talk to the devs all the time. I think I'm good. For the viewer's sake, anything that is not officially or where I add my own lore I clearly state so in the description. In this one I clearly state it is from official sources.
@@Chaotic_JackalIncludikg himself? My point is there is this implication that the goal is eternal suffering through pestilence. If everything is destroyed, there is nothing left to suffer. Where’s the fun in that?
I see all these people getting mad about the whole discord thing, and I’m usually the first one to say rip bozo about a company ruining their own image, however, I have 2 reasons why I’m not saying that about trench crusade 1- all the drama happened OUTSIDE the scope of the game, to be frank I couldn’t give a hell about what happened on a forum or discord. I have seen literally no impact on the game that I’m interested in supporting/playing 2-regardless of what developers and moderators think, as long as they dedicate themselves to making a good and consistently performing product, I have no issue with supporting their passion. As someone who delves in the deluge of greed that is magic the gathering for almost a decade and casually plays 40k with friends every now and then , I had no issue with the whole retconning stuff, although it irked me some. I’m excited to see all the new army stuff coming for the guard as the stuff we’ve seen already looks great. As for Trench crusade I’m terribly depressed I missed the kickstarter as I wanted the rule book pledge, but am extremely excited to see this amazing game come to fruition. Btw rant over, love your content sand have been bingeing it for weeks, as you are what introduced me to this badass game! Keep it up and I hope you get an official narration job with the game for their lore stuff!
According to one of the lore blurbs, an Angel appeared on the battlefield once and it glassed both armies just by being there. So safe to say if the angels get involved it’s game over for humanity.
With 40k I can understand to an extent why some people fall to chaos. Like I can see some people doing that in our world if it existed. But this just seems like pure torture without any real benefits I don’t understand the appeal or why so many would want to join. Sure some people might, but a third of humanity? Am I missing anything?
Hell is broken up into a lot of different factions that all hate each other, so it's actually quite hard for them to get any semblance of real "top to bottom" organization on.
What if the Templars who opened hells gates saw a vision of our world today and thought it would be better for the devil to actually be on earth instead of him slowly taking the world over by using humans to usurp Gods will? Like I'm dying laughing from the idea of some Templar being shown some Gen Z kid who vapes in his face and asks if he has "skibidi rizz" and all the Templar can think of is "this shall not come to pass".
It'd be cool if they did it for both sides. In the sense that on one hand you've got the people on the side of the faithful fighting Hell but Hell's forces are also bolstered by the more monstrous spirits from within the pantheon of the newcomers. Imagine what a Wendigo would look like in this universe.
@@NorthernNorthdude91749 of course, that wasn't the point. My point was that different cultures equivalent of demons could be used as new units for hell. The Wendigo is undeniably malevolent in all versions of the legend.
@@Scythian_Noble funny enough the whole demon worshipping Jews thing started because a man asked God for a book of demons that's will let him and his buds build amazing temple for God and they did literally that so technically the chains that hold the demons are Holy
At the moment their are only four factions, I assume we shall see more over time. Not entire sure how the devs would or will go about a faction based on the Jewish faith as so far the "faith" concept has been pretty hand in hand with a geographical connection. This is all pre-WWI, so Israel has yet to be established and the Levant has been utterly overrun by the Heretic forces. It would be incredibly cool, frankly, because like most religions there is some super dank stuff to explore in Jewish faith, tradition, and custom. I would guess we will see some homebrew rules at some point, if nothing else.
@@scannerbarkly so looked further into it they are coming all 3 big Abrahamic faiths will have a faction at minimum and with that in mind Jews would be probably represented as a probably secretive elite faction with Wizards and demon controlling powers if what I think they will do with the history of my people like the monks who hurt themselves to become close to God Christians and redemption through pain makes sense so by the logic of Solomon asking God for a book on demons and controlling them is something that is written about so at minimum Kabbalah wizards with Galils.
I explore switching up to a more synthy ambient thing, but I definitely can't put up long videos of my own dumb shit sounding voice without something in the background. lol
The only complaint I have is that the upside down cross is not evil (it's the cross of St Peter) and more tied to lazy hollywood writing. Other than that, the other esoteric symbols are very fitting for a demon cult.
If you enjoyed this an dwant to learn more about another faction in Trench Crusade, check out my video on The Iron Sultanate - ruclips.net/video/1M1PNGw6-gs/видео.html
Every heretic is gangsta until they start hearing the word RIP AND TEAR on the other side of no man’s land.
This ain’t the kind of world wer they stay dead sadly. These people also long accepted they are fucked.
A man of culture as well, I see.
You forgot the private with a boombox playing his boss music
Let's see him fight against Kharn the Betrayer
@@nikitaromanovsikis9640 That would be a cool match up. RIP AND TEAR! VS KILL MAIM BURN!
Question: have the spies sent to Hell ever seen a guy in green armor just fragging demons wherever he is?.
They definitely WILL because my New Antioch force is definitely gonna have a Doom Slayer conversion. lol
@@scannerbarkly oh, nice! I’m trying a more Dieselpunk/clockwork theme for my Iron Sultanate force.
@@scannerbarklyconsidering that faith is unironically powerful enough to manifest miracles in this universe. Imagine what would happen to one of these spies if they saw a Paladin at work.
I think you mean whenever, though wherever also fits
@@kieranadamson3224like the orcs imagination in 40k
Meanwhile paladins literally interrogating devil nobles and lords in hell, a coforting notion in spite of this awesome lore
Papa Nurgle when seeing the Black Grail. "Jesus, dude....."
Atleast Nurgle alleviates your suffering and gives meaning to your degradation. Nurgle loves you in a strange twisted way, but Beelzebub just hates you.
Papa Nurgle's been replaced with the Bastard Beezlebub
RIP Grandpappy
Nurgle would unironically hate Belzebuub
@@oddtomato1049 The only thing Nurgle _loves_ is your suffering or the suffering you can spread. Best not to get that mixed up.
I like how the death commandos are not “invisible” just because they refract light, but also because their armour utilises an innocent heart in order to hide from God himself
We need a paint gun :)
The thing I love most about tabletop games and the idea of a "setting" is that you can safely get excited for any property that looks promising. They're not gonna release in a broken state, they're not gonna have predatory microtransactions, out of touch producers aren't going to demand a role for their nephew, it's simply great art, writing, and sculpting that you can use as fuel for your imagination. I've always thought that dark fantasy illustrations like this, Warhammer, Berserk, D&D, and more traditional artists like Alan Lee have this quality that you can sink into, every choice the artist makes seems to have a greater story that goes as far back as it would in real life.
You can also just freeze it at the point you like it. I love the original Necromunda, and the 3rd edition Warhammer 40K, and Cyberpunk 2020, so that is what I can play with friends. Nobody is coming along to try and delete the books i love. :)
I wish we had more information on the hell faction it has so much potential also Thank you for making this glorious video may thine Videos grow to be as renowned as the Iron wall
I am hoping we will get a lot more lore around specific characters and power players in the faction as time goes on. I'm also really curious about any prominent humans who threw in their lot with the forces of hell!
@scannerbarkly I agree with you on wanting more information on specific characters and power players like I want to know more about Duke Constantine and the 7th meta christ
We need an entire book dedicated to The Anointed Heretics
Honestly im not relgious but i do play warhammer. The way the paladins are explained in this and how they cant make them anymore or even their armor but they are also the only ones who can go into the gates of hell and are paragons of humanity that the enemy fears is really badass
It fits perfectly into my favourite depiction of fantasy Knights. Any fool can slap plate armour on his body, pick up a sword and declare himself a Knight of the realm. But in the end what really matters is how one reacts to a faceless abomination from the pit charging directly at them.
The art and style feels like the most metal thing ever. Also the legions of hell are the most brutal and evil things I have ever seen, I love it.
I bet militarization of this faction reaches atleast 300%
The lore is interesting because it's super cool and intriguing. The game is interesting because it lit an M80 firecracker, put it between it's teeth and threw itself head first down a spiral staircase.
Weapons of death and suffering beyond the grasp of any human engineer? Let me introduce you to the power of the atom.
Also aircraft.
"Yeah, so we're gonna rip reality apart at the most fundamental level, and that's gonna convert into an absolutely absurd amount of energy. Please stand by while the power of the sun erases you from existence."
unfornatly it seems in this universe the powers of hell beat humanity to the nukes.
antioch was destroyed by a hell nuke before it became new antioch.
then again angels basically act like nukes just by existing on earth so not totally lost yet.
I read somewhere the mention of the holy cleansing power of their Neutron Bomb.
@@housewilma4904 Has this ever been confirmed? The account doesn't read like a nuke to me.
Let's be fair, Beelzebub is totally just Nurgle with a visual aesthetic pulled from a Lord Gore album and no chill.
That begs the question, which came first: Games Workshop or the Bible? 😂
The correct answer here is me, I came first.. in my pantaloons no less
@@mercuriotrismegistus276 clean up on aisle my pants, etc etc
😂@@mercuriotrismegistus276
Did we even watch the same video? nurgle is a kindly old man I don't know what the fuck you're smoking!
Its good to know that if you die, you still go to Jannah. Unless you run across a Death Commando unfortunately.
Trench crusade is so incredibly grim-derp, but instead of being satirical (like early warhammer), it takes itself so INCREDIBLY seriously that you have to kinda respect it's tryhardness
Yeah. One of the reasons I like it is because it has the late 80s early 90s vibe that I started the hobby with. Shit just went hard because at the time doing so went against the grain. The weird thing now is that everybody takes EVERYTHING so seriously all the time. TC is definitely a serious world, but the folks making it are just trying to have some fun and recapture that 90s vibe.
Is it though, or is that just a 4chan buzzword nonsense? Its a game that takes the horrors and brutality of World War 1 and combines it with the gruesome ideas that exist within the Abrahamic faiths, taken to 11. The tone is consistent, the world-building is rad, and it builds an absolutely metal picture of this "black metal album cover" setting.
Warhammer is still satirical? I don’t think I’ve ever got the impression that it was taking anything serious 😂
Warhammer is definitely derpier than this
@@jira6423Like in the Calgar Comic, were it is stated that the average Lifespan on Ultramar is 35 Years.
If they ever make a book. I will be the first to buy it. This new grimdark world. Is dark as hell. Ww1 meets doom and depression.
Fantastic video need more of this soon!!
More to come! Will have one dropping on the Iron Sultanate in a couple of hours. :)
Here ya go, the Iron Sultanate - ruclips.net/video/1M1PNGw6-gs/видео.html
8:12 the design of the chorister is SO COOL! The imagery of their severed neck veins (?) twisting into demonic symbols is so brutal and I LOVE IT!
the inverted pyramid detail is a weird thing for me because i used to have really bad nightmares about being buried under and inverted pyramid. Weird
Deep bro
That's actually the devil's fate. His kingdom is like a pyramid, with him at the top, and the increasingly suffering masses under his control bearing progressively more and more weight toward the bottom. However, when the devil faces judgment, this system will be reversed, and all the souls he led into damnation will weigh on top of him. He will be eternally crushed by the very souls he brought down with him. He won't even be able to feel satisfaction for damning them because they will be above him and suffering less than he will. Don't let those dreams try to put his punishment on you. Think of it as a good sign, because the devil attacks those closest to God the most.
Having visions of the pyramids? Time to become a trench pilgrim, brother.
heretics be ballin' until a you hear clanging metal and mechanical noises in the fog
The way the game seems to focus a lot on Beelzebub and his unholy works and followers makes me wonder if the creator is a Warhammer Nurgle fan. Also, teh designs of the Plague Knights looks cool and well done.
This is so intense for no reason and I love it
And the game isn't even out yet!
Stumbled upon this channel and Trench wars while sick in bed, makes me want to crusade!
So you burn the yourself to get into the army where subsequently fight in trenches until you die, then you burn in hell. Sounds like a great deal for those heretic legions. I can totally see why they are so eager to join up.
When the bad guys are bad guys 😮😮😮
Emboldened Anarchists, Eager to embrace their Nihilism.
plague knights look less scary because they look like goofy asf mosquitos
I wonder what Asia and Africa are doing during all this? Will the heretics take all of the new worlds or do the crusaders hold South America while heretics hold the north
With the state Europe is in, I doubt that there is any knowledge of the new world. Too busy killing heretics to explore the world.
It would be cool if the Mayans sailed across the ocean and discovered them first. That would technically make Europe the “new world”
Reading the lore, it mentions that the “Domains of Africa” pays tithe to New Antioch. They could be colonies, could also just be Christian African nations.
I doubt anyone knows about the new world. Too busy killing heretics I bet.
It would be cool if the Mayans sailed across the ocean and discovered them first. That would technically make Europe the “New World”
I doubt anyone knows about the new world.
It would be cool if the Mayans sailed across the ocean and discovered them first. That would technically make Europe the “New World”
Considering all sides have access to supernatural knowledĝe i assume that includes a map of the world.
So, presumably, they are fighting proxy wars but very little european colonisation because no one has the resources to fully exploit the new world
I've seen most of these concept art images on Google for the past few years before this whole series was really a thing, I'm kind of Hoping that someone will make specialized Art for this genre Because the concept art is cool and all but it just brings me back to when I was in middle school and I thought it all looked edgy and awesome.
I don't recognize everyone of the backgrounds being shown but I recognize the majority of them as stuff taken off Google.
pretty sure he took them from the artist who's posting it on Twitter (and maybe other places)
Why is it always the upside down crosses that people get wrong? Like people know that's St. Peter's cross right? Not at all satanic or demonic but whatever. Still cool lore
I guess Eugene Vintras just had a bigger impact with it.
If I recall correctly, the reason St. Peter wanted to be crucified upside down was symbolic. It was a statement that the values of the people were upside down.
So, if you think about it in that way, an inverted cross symbolizes the inverted values of christianity.
@@zaneaustin3021 Nope. Peter was crucified upside down because he requested it, saying that he wished not to be crucified the same way as his Lord as he denied Jesus 3 times. It's a symbol of humility. It's mostly a catholic tradition, far as I'm aware.
@@DrKhaos23 Oh I see. Thank you for clearing that up for me.
From what i gather so far, what Easter Orthodox see it as
The upside down cross (Cross of Peter) is a sign of Humility, and respect for Christ.
And when people use it wrong, some say its an Irony, and some see it as disrespcatble.
But, God teach through irony, so there are some Irony in the miss use of it.
Simple as.
Even chaos still mercifull and kind enough to give their follower a painless and Joy alongside their powerful blessing
Finally someone who actually understands the loreof chaos! I've had to explain nurgle corruption to 9 people
There is no joy in heresy. Merely the exhilaration of plunging into degradation. An illusion for one brief moment before an eternity of empty slavery.
Fuck hell, Fuck the Imperium, Fuck the Faithful glory to Chaos.
Khorne Berserkers go feral if they aren't murder fucking something. Tzeentch can turn you inside out, still alive just cause he thought it'd be funny and Slaanesh, well, it's Slaanesh. Nurgle does hook up his followers by removing their sense of pain but God forbid you piss him off cause he can flip all those pain receptors back on at will. The gods of Chaos in 40k are only going to benefit you if you are a useful tool, once you're not, it's a million times worse than before you worshiped them.
@@tamlandipper29 " We are no longer weaklings trembling before an unmerciful God. We say blessed be the mighty-minded for they shall ride the whirlwinds. " Ramman , Anointed of the XXI Heretic Legion " Widowmakers "
@scannerbarkly The sound of your voice as you tell of baleful dooms and the ambitions of hell somehow gives it an authenticity. Many of us Americans are accustomed to associating priests and Catholicism with your accent, and we have a cultural history of associating the horrors of the inferno with a minister speaking. It's your normal speech, but a happy accident that adds to your narrative voice as a sort of preacher/prophet of fictional perdition and war.
I'm deffo intrigued by this grim shit. I liked the idea of turnip too but this sounds even cooler tbh. I like the Iron Sultanate
Hopefully we see the minis soon
Please keep making lore videos!!!
Love your narration, man. Keep on keeping on. 👍🏻
This is even more Chaos than the legions of Failbaddon the Harmless.
I cant wait for official models for this!
Ive seen comments about Mayan or Aztec factions, but how about the Mexican inquisition, no one will ever expect them.
Yes
the burritos of war are a bitter but sustaining meal
I can’t wait for books about this setting; this is amazing!
if they don't make this a book, a movie, and or video game
I should just start writing fan fiction
It's a tabletop wargame in the works.
Tabletop game
I can’t even comprehend what this world would look like
Something ive noticed, and i dont know much about like christian "Demonology" so idk if thats accurate to ttue christian "Lore" but i find it interesting that the sort of home bases of both beezlebub and the Death spectre guy are the 7th layer of hell specifically. Is this following dante's structure of hell where hell is multiple layers designated for each specific sin, or is it just sort of a vague/not elaborated upon "layered" shape? Also quite like the vid, i was exposed to trench crusade like yesterday by some great art/narration channel i dont remember seeing the name of and then got recommended your channel for lore
there is quite a lot of mentions of "circels of hell" and "layers of hell"
So yeah, safe to say it´s dantes version of hell. or inspired by it atleast
Time to leave warhemmer and go into a new land. Also kinda sad how this feels more like chaos than the chaos in 40k right now before slannesh had naked demon khorn demons where brutal nurgle was disgusting and tzzench looked like an abomination rather than cute birds 🦅.
Dude you know those are just popular fan art? That not what the chaos gods look like officially.
@@judeduval5724Thank you- you’re exactly right. Warhammer is what you make it. Don’t like cutesy 8th edition Death Guard? Neither do the rest of us back in 30K.
The Devs dont want Warhammer Refugees. The official Discord banned many of us without a reason.
You do understand that this company is worker than Games Workshop, right?
They ban you on their Discord if you ever joked about The Message™️
This isn’t an alternative I’m sad to say
@@Br1cht God what a crybaby. "waaaaahhhhh it's wooooooke" Why don't you go take a nap then, cranky?
These vids are cool af
Loving all the back story and art.
......i fucking love these grimdark settings, thank you greatly for this popping up on my feed
I love that someone accurately drew a basic hose clamp on the gas mask. Hell is very practical it seems.
We need a anarchist/Chaos Magic Using faction.
Like The Ukrainian Black Army?
@@thesmilyguyguy9799?
@@REIVAXMEELAS They Whre Ukrainian Anarchists Group During The Russian Civil War
@@thesmilyguyguy9799yes with different factions.
@@REIVAXMEELAS yes Cool
I’m kind of curious about the mindset of people who pledge themselves to Hell. Cuz like, in Warhammer, that question with Chaos has many answers that have been explored at length, but this is a different world and cosmology.
Do they view the Abrahamic God as something that can be defeated? Do they view themselves as superior? What do they get out of serving the demon lords? Is there a particular end goal in mind? What is their theology like?
I heard from another comment the reason they join and fight is that each soldier in the heretic legion believe that they are special and different and are the chosen one so they won’t suffer the infinite torture all the other souls will. Or desperation. If you’re already damned might as well try move up hells heirchy by committing atrocities.
Pointless hubris, they're the people who genuinely think 'I'm built different' and think there's something to gain, that there's anything to this other than satisfying the bitter resentment of the arch devils as they drive humanity to violate humanity even as they themselves suffer for their escalating crimes.
It's the point of why 'heresy' was historically so reviled, because it's so 'self-evidently' stupid and self-destructive.
The salvation of the gospel wasn't a matter of opinion or debate, the details within it were but the truth of it WAS truth.
That's what the heretic legions are in this setting, ludicrous and self-destructive fools spiting the world for no benefit.
This setting needs a tribute metal band stat!
Can you make a holy nuke?
Will there be terrain like the art work being sold or will I just have to make my own stuff?
I haven't seen anything said about terrain, and it seems likely that adding that new area to cover might be a lot for the small team involved.
@@scannerbarkly Gotcha I'll just use my old castle ruin and temple terrain. That oughta do lol. Thanks for making these videos, me and the bois will be watching this project very closely!
@@majortughjedi9813 Sounds fitting, once it comes out i wouldn't be surprised if they did come out with terrains
@@disturbedrenegade9815 It definitely would be a good way to help build the world more and make the campaigns more immersive for sure. Im very excited for this hobby, have been binging lore ever since I learned of it.
@@majortughjedi9813 I mean, they made 8x their original goal, so I can imagine them making more stuff along the way.
Damn man, "Artillery Witch" is the coolest denomination ever.
am i mental or did the chorister get two entries? one had the sin eater as the background image and the other had the chorister as the background image
Is there any videos on the other faction anywhere?
You can find some lore vids on Trench Officers channel here - www.youtube.com/@a_random_orthodox_Christian
I shall also be doing more vids myself, with one on The Iron Sultanate coming later today. :)
Dude bible study night just got waaay more badass
This seems awesome, perfect companion to my chaos Warhammer armies
Thank you for the next obsession, my wife will come for you later.
Epic as hell
The only thing i want to know is can i kitbash GW models and trench crusader models and are they gonna release books on this new addiction of mine ?
Kitbashing is highly encouraged by the devs although they are releasing optional minis for it as well, there is some free rules on their site at the moment but the full book will be coming out on PDF & bound paper after the kickstarter I believe
Question, what happens if an enemy fires an explosive directly into the bomb witch guys portal that leads directly to a bomb factory from hell.
This game gives serious, blood bourne/dark souls/elden rings vibes.
Ive just subscribed to the newsletter and will definitely be jumping on the Kickstarter
More chaos than Abbadon the harmless's black legion.
They need to get the scorn artist to do the actual inside of hell
This setting is so metal... 😞👋🎸💀🔥
Game designers need to stop targeting me like this. I only have so much money.
I'd get this, in Australia??
we need a trench crusade FPS.
This sounds like Hell on Earth… literally!
What is the music song name. I searched across envato elements music and couldn't find results
Anyone see a crazy dude in big silver armor running around? We haven’t seen him in like 100 years
Love the content... HOWEVER... Please COOL it with the ads!! It's not worth it if all you do is skip adds every few words apart... also makes it so you CANNOT sleep to these....
I'm not trying to be funny but I keep thinking there's going to be a judeo depiction and I keep feeling like it's going to be like the mechanicus with an emphasis on golems
There are Hebrew Knights mentioned. No Golems yet. But would definetly fit right in.
@noradrenalin8062 do not know that that's pretty cool though
This is like warhammer except more grim dark that modern warhammer 40k
@@AlexAlex-zt3hi unfortunately yeah
@@Nickerdz More like fortunately.
@@HeroOfTheHolySword nah, you guys are insane. Post modernism can only deconstruct, not construct
@@AlexAlex-zt3hi wth is blud even yapping about 😭
Don't worry - it won't be grim for long...........
I wonder how trench crusade earth would react to the imperium of man
Genuine question. Isnt god all poewerful why doesnt he just erase all the heretics from existence? Is it a test for humanity?
It's a fun question, no doubt. The easy answer is that God did just snap his fingers and put everything right, there wouldn't be much of a game to play. lol We can also argue that God does have direct intervention in the form miracles performed by certain troops, certain technological discoveries that inform weapons and armor, and you could even argue that elements of the world such as the Meta-Christ indicate that he is taking action to help.
I think the good thing is that the playerbase will come up with all manner of theories. I like the idea that this is turning mankind into something that it needs to be, one way or the other.
Fake liar god
The creators said it might not be the 'real' god as far as christianity is concerned and they have no intention of giving a clear answer
The reason for this is that, Jesus (the most high GOD walking the earth in a flesh body, just like we for now inhabit) has told us all things; of the which, there are a great many that needs yet to happen down here in the murk under the sun. And they shall come to pass. So he does as you inquire, but not yet. Yes, you are being tested; and GOD breaks the weak.
Mark 13 (kjv)
(it is important to use a kjv, as that is meted out with what is known as the Strong's Concordance, so all the words can be looked up and defined; even though the Bible has a built in dictionary, that is enough, it is the only assembled writings in existence to have such a thing - and that cannot be explained away or disregarded in any honesty. Or an older version. The new "versions" that have newly "sprang up" have been altered in a quite vile way by some quite vain fellows; and there is a penalty that will rest upon them for doing what they have purposefully done. Notwithstanding, GOD promised to preserve His Word to all "Generations" and send teachers, and lo, He has.)
Revelation 22:18-19 (kjv)
Same reason he hasn't in real life I'd guess
I know you’re likely not intending on plagiarizing, but please do cite the source or reference via a visual indicator when quoting something like the lore sampler. It’ll save you a lot of pain.
I talk to the devs all the time. I think I'm good. For the viewer's sake, anything that is not officially or where I add my own lore I clearly state so in the description. In this one I clearly state it is from official sources.
@@scannerbarklyok cool, just making sure.
If Beelsebubba succeeded, wouldn’t the parasites die out with no hosts to feed on?
Yes but that’s kinda the point. The Lord of Flies cares nothing for their minions and wants everything to sicken and die
@@Chaotic_JackalIncludikg himself? My point is there is this implication that the goal is eternal suffering through pestilence. If everything is destroyed, there is nothing left to suffer. Where’s the fun in that?
Would not surprise me if they had blitzkrieg nezis warriors
I see all these people getting mad about the whole discord thing, and I’m usually the first one to say rip bozo about a company ruining their own image, however, I have 2 reasons why I’m not saying that about trench crusade
1- all the drama happened OUTSIDE the scope of the game, to be frank I couldn’t give a hell about what happened on a forum or discord. I have seen literally no impact on the game that I’m interested in supporting/playing
2-regardless of what developers and moderators think, as long as they dedicate themselves to making a good and consistently performing product, I have no issue with supporting their passion.
As someone who delves in the deluge of greed that is magic the gathering for almost a decade and casually plays 40k with friends every now and then , I had no issue with the whole retconning stuff, although it irked me some. I’m excited to see all the new army stuff coming for the guard as the stuff we’ve seen already looks great. As for Trench crusade I’m terribly depressed I missed the kickstarter as I wanted the rule book pledge, but am extremely excited to see this amazing game come to fruition. Btw rant over, love your content sand have been bingeing it for weeks, as you are what introduced me to this badass game! Keep it up and I hope you get an official narration job with the game for their lore stuff!
Banning racists from your discord is a good thing, nobody wants the reputation 40k has
i'm guessing angels are scarce here for good reason...
According to one of the lore blurbs, an Angel appeared on the battlefield once and it glassed both armies just by being there. So safe to say if the angels get involved it’s game over for humanity.
With 40k I can understand to an extent why some people fall to chaos. Like I can see some people doing that in our world if it existed. But this just seems like pure torture without any real benefits I don’t understand the appeal or why so many would want to join. Sure some people might, but a third of humanity? Am I missing anything?
Only other person I've seen that knows thee movie a scanner darkly
my people
How are they governed? Is there a king of the earthly domain of hell? Is it pure anarchy?
Hell is broken up into a lot of different factions that all hate each other, so it's actually quite hard for them to get any semblance of real "top to bottom" organization on.
are there pagans as a factoin
Not as a detailed faction, as the idea of "pagan" is pretty broad. It's likely we will get stuff that would fall into that category down the line.
Aren't us Irish in this kinda pagan? The rangers like?
@@taibh643 Nope, they’re a part of the Christian nations and provide troops to the Church.
@@taibh643Nope. The Irish are Catholic in Trench Crusade.
What if the Templars who opened hells gates saw a vision of our world today and thought it would be better for the devil to actually be on earth instead of him slowly taking the world over by using humans to usurp Gods will?
Like I'm dying laughing from the idea of some Templar being shown some Gen Z kid who vapes in his face and asks if he has "skibidi rizz" and all the Templar can think of is "this shall not come to pass".
Love yew scanner
I wonder how they will bring other religion into it. Like old African beliefs or Native American
It'd be cool if they did it for both sides. In the sense that on one hand you've got the people on the side of the faithful fighting Hell but Hell's forces are also bolstered by the more monstrous spirits from within the pantheon of the newcomers. Imagine what a Wendigo would look like in this universe.
@@kieranadamson3224Non-Christian religions wouldn't have to automatically be aligned with Hell.
@@NorthernNorthdude91749 of course, that wasn't the point. My point was that different cultures equivalent of demons could be used as new units for hell. The Wendigo is undeniably malevolent in all versions of the legend.
So is there a Jewish inspired faction
@@Scythian_Noble funny enough the whole demon worshipping Jews thing started because a man asked God for a book of demons that's will let him and his buds build amazing temple for God and they did literally that so technically the chains that hold the demons are Holy
At the moment their are only four factions, I assume we shall see more over time. Not entire sure how the devs would or will go about a faction based on the Jewish faith as so far the "faith" concept has been pretty hand in hand with a geographical connection. This is all pre-WWI, so Israel has yet to be established and the Levant has been utterly overrun by the Heretic forces. It would be incredibly cool, frankly, because like most religions there is some super dank stuff to explore in Jewish faith, tradition, and custom.
I would guess we will see some homebrew rules at some point, if nothing else.
@@scannerbarkly so looked further into it they are coming all 3 big Abrahamic faiths will have a faction at minimum and with that in mind Jews would be probably represented as a probably secretive elite faction with Wizards and demon controlling powers if what I think they will do with the history of my people like the monks who hurt themselves to become close to God Christians and redemption through pain makes sense so by the logic of Solomon asking God for a book on demons and controlling them is something that is written about so at minimum Kabbalah wizards with Galils.
I imagine that Seals of Solomon and Kabbalah will be present.
@@____________838 now let's home they are something that isn't a horde army
GAME OF THE CENTURY!!!!! :D INCREDIBAL!!!!
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enter doomguy
turnip trench crusade... discuss
Holy Hell
Dude the background music gotta go i feel like im havihg a stroke listening 😢
I explore switching up to a more synthy ambient thing, but I definitely can't put up long videos of my own dumb shit sounding voice without something in the background. lol
@@scannerbarkly so what is it called?
This is so sigma 😮😮😮😮😮
Sounds like the Ruzzian army
The only complaint I have is that the upside down cross is not evil (it's the cross of St Peter) and more tied to lazy hollywood writing. Other than that, the other esoteric symbols are very fitting for a demon cult.
Thanks for your “cool” description. I’ll definitely not be playing this.
Deus vult
The Templars fucked it in this one bud. Lol
@@scannerbarklyDeus Vult!!
@@scannerbarkly good lord these larpers....
@@scannerbarklypropaganda by King Philip 😂
So what's up with the rest of the world that isn't christian?