Behind the dark LORE and worldbuilding of The Forever Winter
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
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It's been an honestly lifechanging experience to get to talk and work with the developers at Fun Dog, and I hope that I've translated their vision to you well.
Being able to share a universe I find beautiful and inspiring with others who share my same tastes is the thing I love doing most in the world, and you all have made that possible in a way I never would have expected, so thank you all for showing up for these pieces, regardless of their subject matter.
Forever Winter will be, like I said in a prior video, like the Heavy Metal Magazine on the middle of the stack in the bottom shelf in the library; it's the Dragon's Heaven OVA, or Venus Wars, or the Nausicaa Manga, or World War Robot; something many people won't be into or might not get . I don't talk passionately about games because I think they'll blow up or be popular; the media I love HITS for me in some way, and I make these videos to try and explain why.
Not everything I like will be for everyone - But if it IS for you, you're the homie.
Hope you've enjoyed these videos, and I'm excited to keep making them.
Cheers
Riloe
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never stop riloe, your passion bleeds so clearly thru ur work
One more week, I cannot fucking wait.
And of course I'll be tuning in for the next one, homie 👊
I really want you to know how much it means to me to see videos like yours man, full of genuine passion about something and focused on that one thing. These videos are themselves art, and they make me share your passion for this game. I never would have heard about it if it wasn't for stumbling across your first video on it, nor do i think i would've ended up subscribing to your channel despite your other content before it being very good in its own right, i just wouldn't have gotten over the default apathy of browsing the internet these days. I'm really glad i did, you're one of my favorite creators i've seen in a long time, keep it up man, and always stay true to yourself.
DUDE! THEY GOT YOUR OC CHARACTER SKETCH INTO THE GAME!?
I'm begging the developers and artists to sell PHYSICAL artbooks and lore, would buy it all!
I'd love to see some, most, or all of this stuff turned into miniatures, or even better, model kits. 1:60 scale in particular, because lord knows I wanna drop some of these horrors in front of D&D players...
It would actually make a special edition actually special,
Love to see it
secounded. I want hecking t-shirts of this meltal as hell stuff
@@XaleManiximagine they publish some sort of articulated action figures of the troops, characters and such
@@XaleManix 100% needs to go full circle and become the next Necromunda.
On the topic of the game's understated humor: That diagram of Toothy's biofuel bags is interesting because it describes the process in which prisoners are captured and digested by the mech for fuel, only for that little notice to appear in the bottom right corner, "Plastic bags are dangerous! To avoid danger of suffocation, do keep this away from children!" Like HUH.
Dark humor is simply magical 😂
Kai has a supremely dark sense of humor, haha. The markings on the Hind are great; "Stand here for post-life processing", and "we dance under phosphorous skies" on the tail
@@riloegaming Now they just need to put "Photos! Look here, smile, wait for flash." Beside a .50 cal shield. Haha
oh i absolutely love that
Loot crate in the future
20 people man... 20 friggin people did this. I'll never not be blown away by that fact.
A lot of those old UE4 builds was back when it was like 4 people as well, haha.
dont get too hyped yet... The gameplay looks VERY rough
Really lets you know how unnecessary AAA culture is.
Oh hey, I've watched your content, It's pretty cool.
So will you be making films with this game?
@@circuitusproductionsit doesn’t look that rough
"You are not the hero, but that doesn't mean you have to be a villain." - I love that phrasing.
Rat simulator
@@temptemp4174 but who is the giant rat that makes all the rules???
@@dusk2308He died with all the politicians
Oh hell yeah. Rewarding my terrible sleep schedule.
The exact moment I was gonna put my phone away and go to sleep lmao
it is currently 8 in the morning here....
@@jonternk it’s currently 2 in the morning here. Time zones are wild.
@@JTBJacksdeadasschannel I’ve spent all night playing rdr2 and I don’t think it’s gonna stop for a while lol.
@@spyguy888 I know right, currently for me it's 1:12AM
The fact that the devs give players guns and the ability to shoot things while telling players, "you're not that guy," I can't wait for the first players to be that guy and just dominate the battlefield on their own. Like how Subnautica devs wanted it to be a pacifist game with no guns, players just stasis rifled and knifed everything that moved.
Hopefully all the systems that they added should make that playstyle impossible. Hopefully...
@@dr.cheeze5382 Or make it so difficult that only the people who *are* "that guy" can pull it off.
@@dr.cheeze5382do not underestimate the tenacity of players
@@mister_bomb7777 We're about to see players take down mechs with the use of a shitty AK, A Spas 12, and melee.
somehow, someway, someone will still be that guy
the way the ai's interact with war kinda reminds be of the builders in BLAME! and how they eventually lost sight of their intended purpose. the ai's only continue waging war in a way that only makes sense algorithmically based on flawed and corrupted data, the same way the builders slowly started creating less and less human structures.
Wow, I was thinking of it too
BLAME! is an absolute juggernaut in terms of aesthetic and tone, absolutely one of the most underrated pieces of art in any medium
Can you or anyone else recommend any other Manga / Media that has a similar "vibe" to BLAME! ? I loved reading it and I'm hungry for more.
@@Zazzlebips Any of Tsutomu Nihei's works will give you those vibes. Try:
- Knights of Sidonia (completed - also has an anime!)
- Aposimz (you might be able to also find it under the name Ningyou no Kuni, which is the prequel chapter to Aposimz)
- Biomega (completed)
- Abara (completed)
There are others, but I'll let you discover them on your own.
@@Zazzlebips not really anything quite like it, unfortunately. one of a kind goat in what it does. closest I can think of off the top of my head is Gantz in terms of the feelings and vibe that i personally got out of it, but it's not even that similar or close.
I was watching a guy talk about his experience volunteering in Ukraine and he mentioned with all the drones and ways you can instantly be annihilated on the battlefield, your best chance at survival is to look unimportant as a target to drone operators who are guiding artillery/missile strikes and various forms of drones. You have to appear not worth the munitions. It reminded me of this game.
That is supremely depressing, and it sucks how much this game which was initially conceived before any of that started predicted it so well.
That is very interesting. It makes me wonder how armies will look in the future if war breaks out between superpowers. I hope it never does because it will basically mean the end of how civilzation is even supposed to function.
They should add FPV's and AI drone swarms as a weather event, maybe FO units as an assassination target...
True, good sci-fi has always and ever been an examination of the human condition under the lens of a future setting that’s based on the trends of the tech and culture of the current age. It’s taking what we have _now_ and saying “what happens to us if we can push this just a little bit further than currently possible?”
The Forever Winter is a fantastic addition to the sci-fi genre which, unfortunately, means it will inevitably be a little prophetic in time.
Honestly, if they did a lore book with the art and graphics when the game gets into 1.0 I'd definitely buy that. Hopefully this shit goes well and they can expand this universe in the future, can't wait to see what they do, the story and lore is insane. it's like warhammer 40k, but we are just at the beginning of the 20 year journey, so hyped.
They've confirmed that they got a publisher to pick up the book, so at some point (never soon enough) we'll get to see it!
I hope they print books as soon as possible, in case the game doesn't make it or just turns out not to be my thing.
@@agentoranj5858 The game was confirmed to require a super computer to run, so for me with my crappy old pc that I can't afford to replace any time soon I'd be very happy with an artbook yeah. I just love this world they created even if I can't directly become a part of it.
Same
@@riloegamingtoo blessed to be stressed
The Cow Balloon section really reminded me of Ace Combat 7. As you're destroying a giant superweapon or drones that threaten the security of the world your AWACS will be there talking about food, your buddy will be thinking about returning home and telling his son about his war stories, and more small details like that all over the game.
dude those first two scenes are so fucking mad god. when he is walking through the bombed out city with the briefcase.
100%
The jeep scene driving through all the tall tanks shooting each other
Wish you linked the time in the video your talking about. You can just type it; 4:20 see?
I didn't even know I needed a Mad God game and yet here we are
This game must be inspired att least a little by mad god. what a great move, what a great game.
People have called this a blend of STALKER and Warhammer, which I definitely agree with, but I think its also a delightful mix of This War of Mine and Kenshi
@@xaechireon the biggest influence was Mercenaries: Playground of Destruction!
The thing I see a lot of people reference is BLAME!, and having seen a bit of that anime, I wholeheartedly agree.
That small bit of information at 23:13-23:26 has to be the best part of this video.
I can't even begin to imagine how cool it must be for you to have some of your art used by people you've admired for so long. But maybe im just thinking that because im also an art nerd
All art nerds are welcome here!
I love the tone of this game. Its dark and gritty but there's an underline of hope. That maybe if you keep pushing and keep trying you'll see some kind of peace again. Its an endearment of human spirit.
Absolutely, minor stuff like your main upgrades(at least the ones I saw in my try out test run) being stuff that helps people have some peace and comfort down below, the fact that you have the donation box to help other scavs and thier groups survive, hell if I remeber a short they released was the scav characters saving a abandoned mech pilot
It's a bleak and cruel world, but it's one that people have worked hard to survive and to maybe one day see through, till then they will keep on surviving and fighting where they have to
Toothy's biobag has a warning to keep away from children due to suffocation hazards
Lmao😅😅😅
Also that bags use case id hella grim dark.
duh, children are too small to be effective batteries.
12:28 BLACKLIGHT RETRIBUTION MENTIONED! Truly one of the most underrated shooters that ever came out of the 2010's, and its aesthetic really paved the groundwork for future sci-fi military art. One of my favorite games of all time.
Excellent call out! :D
@@rhithymKai designed the Hardsuits in those games, and he’s bringing some of that vibe back for the Eurasian mechs which aren’t in the game yet
my dad worked on those games i was pumped dude, this game looks sick as hell
im very hyped for those "helping people out" missions
also congrats on getting your art actually put into the game man that is insane
another edit but the most depressing part about this setting to me is the fact theres so much space debris now that we (probably) cant go to space anymore. idk that part just hits the hardest to me
I kinda wanna play the war devil and see just how far I can take it before getting put down.
@@agentoranj5858Let me tell you... You won't get far if you don't extract, you WILL get overwhelmed, either by bullets, or Cyborgs, maybe cannon fire from tanks or Mechs
@@agentoranj5858 upload gameplay of it I wanna see.
@@agentoranj5858 this is wrong because war is about friendship and kindness actually
It would be so interesting to see what happens when you help a faction and what kind of impact that has on the gameplay itself.
"I'm not a journalist. I'm not a game reviewer. I'm not being objective." - oh my sweet summer child, neither are game journalists
Funny thing. The first thing I find myself interested in with a new shooter is "What do the guns look like." But i've shot past caring about that a looooooooooong time ago because everything else about Forever Winter is just so captivating. It feels kinda Tsutomu Nihei-esque.
agreed. this game has such a characteristic look and feel that you expect most guns to just be AK variants because that's what will still survive in large numbers after a nuclear world war lile here. and thats what we see alot of characters carrying. ahah of course there are others but this is the kinda game i can seemyself playing with just one random AK. especially since a good scav run will be one where i don't need to shoot at all 😅
@@soleenzo893 true kinda like stalker, or metro, where most guns look durable or cobbled together with what is on hand.
Genuine question: maybe we just play different games, but I can't imagine caring at all what the guns look like when choosing whether to play something. Don't you care about the mechanics, the systems? The unique gimmicks the game has, the monitization or lack of? Would you refuse to play, for example, cruelty squad, because all the guns are not "good looking" by regular standards?
@@tipx2master788 its not that deep, it’s just an artistic thing.
@@fluffywolfo3663 hm, well sorry then. I just personally cannot imagine caring about that (especially not first), so was interested in why someone would think it's so important.
I hope they release the art book or books alongside the game as something you can purchase. It would make them money and I myself would spend hours examining all the art for this project. EDIT: 23:37 DUDE THAT CHARACTER IS SO COOL AND YOUR ART IS AWESOME!!!
Real. I'd buy that art book in a heartbeat.
I really like the section mentioning the humanity and humor even in this dark world. I've often said the most important part of a dark piece of media is a little bit of light to latch onto. It can't be misery 100% all the time. It's why in certain works like Berserk, my favorite moments are the quiet ones like the characters walking on the beach or looking at the stars. Or in 40k, the Orks are absolute goofballs a lot of the time (while still being quite scary other times). You just need time to breathe in these kinds of worlds.
Berserk does it really well.
Darkness is the absence of light but to really understand how dark it is you need the light as a contrast.
Also rly cool that Berserk has some actual underlying hope beneath.
No. Go back to your dungeon, weeb. This comment section is for people.
in 40k i wouldn't use the orks as an example lmao yeah from our POW they are the best in the setting, but for the people of the imperium they are a nightmare. thats why beside the orks the salamenders are my other loved faction. I love Warhammer and how violent it is, but all the kind gesture that happen is what make me love the setting. I hope for Forever Winter to have the same vibe, because it already caught me
Puck carrying the entire manga series on his tiny back
Seeing your concept art literally being added to the game made me tear up man, I love it!
Dude. Your art is amazing and it so deserves to be in a game. Im sure the devs are grateful for such a cool concept
What blew my mind with this, was the fact that the base that forms everything, the look, the modular structures that fit and can be used in hundreds of different layouts and shapes with different uses.
Ngl, I was a bit unsure if getting the game because of the water mechanics/management but knowing that my money would fund this degree of lore, grit and, for a lack of better term, BALLS of a small team of devs deciding to put aside the standardized and sanitized corpo industry and put something out with actual SOUL convinced me to buy this game as soon as it's out.
I am a bit of a lore nerd for stuff I like, I love to see reasons for something being there, this place looking the way it does, this unit behaving this peculiar way, and knowing how much love the devs put into the world and map has me beyond excited.
I have instantly got respect for the team for creating a dark future world that doesn't go full on nihilism and cynicism like 40K nor embracing comedy like Fallout or The Wasteland. Just because the world is dying and horrible things are happening don't mean **you** should be a horrible person, lack any emotions and simple desires. Neither people around you should stop being humans.
Frankly, this vision that insists humans will always be selfish in extreme situations is contradicted by our very history of community-driven existence. The bleak cynicism of humans always turning on each other feels more unrealistic than many "magic" plot devices those settings use. How even after so much indoctrination, WWI soldiers still crossed the trenches during Christmas to mingle. How many franchises ignore this particular feature of humans, it just makes the setting feel less real. This, on the other hand, is the opposite. Even on such a bleak world, humanity still shines through.
@@TangiersIntrigue I prefer stories that are more of a mixed bag like this, sure people do horrible thing but at least you can make a choice for peace.
@@rickfastly2671 My point is, we already have enough bleakness and cynicism in the world, and a lot of media about it. I feel it paints a somewhat false picture of what humanity is as a whole, and I feel their approach is refreshing. Being able to make your own decisions, some of them good, instead of being forced into grimdark decisions just to suit the aesthetics is kinda uncommon.
@@TangiersIntrigue tbf in warhammer there are gods actively corrupting humans
Fallout isn't really comedy though imo. The settings are pretty comedic but the actual world isn't.
I’m so bummed that the game is multiplayer 😭 I’d kill for a single player game in this world along the lines of Death Stranding
@@LateNightHalo truly….
Maybe one day we could see a better funded fully scale story based game in this universe…
But you can totally play the game solo, that’s all I’ve really done
@@riloegamingis it out now?
Early access starts 9/24
It’s still a very early game, lots of stuff to be worked on
You can play it solo. It is harder of course. But this hardship fits in the game world. Have a go at it!
It's out now and it's perfectly playable solo, you can even hire AI squad mates to make your life easier (ideally, at least) if you do choose. Still recommend giving it a shot
I absolutely cannot wait for this game to release. It looks like a whole movie! Great vid man!
Early access begins Sept. 24!
@@SpeedBumpJ it’s very early and very rough. But that soul is there and the art and mechanics are pretty great 👍
So happy to see your character design getting added into the game! Never stop doing what you love, man :)
Thank you so much!!
This may sound weird but here me out, all of those different concepts mashed together really reminds me of playing with your toys as a kid.
Random assortments of Plastic soldiers in environments made out of Lego and cardboard fighting against transformers and Bionicle Rahi, while Star Wars starfighters fly overhead. Basically you make up your own rules and Story as to how all these different elements fit together.
This game, to me, takes this Idea of mashing up whatever cool things you want, dialed up to 11 and through an interesting new perspective.
@@Metacritical_ 100%!
I think that's such a perfect way to describe it
you just unlocked a core memory, I completely forgot I used to do that.. GI joes fighting dinosaurs and power rangers, with random Transformers taking out huge armies, only for Batman to drop out the sky and drop kick a Hulk Hogan riding a T-rex with mounted guns from the GI joes.
This is a brilliant video, thank you for talking about things you think are cool! Super excited to get home and play some more and see how the game develops.
They seem to be using Bethesda’s rules better than them:
“Keep it simple, stupid!”
Because Bethesda misunderstood their own rule and confused it to say "do not polish".
It just works.
Bethesda forget where the “stupid” part is placed in that line.
The KISS method easily outdates Bethesda.
No.
Please let this game be good. I'm so tired of really unique and cool looking games turning out to be terrible...
It's when art goes over gameplay, like scorn. I just hope it's not player restrictive and it allows you to go guns blazing if you want to.
@@Stone_Grey I've played a few games like that and I know what you mean.
Recently I've played Pacific Drive. Not a terrible game by any means but it definitely lacks in some departments. But it makes up for it with its art style and story.
This and S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 are going to consume my entire life and I'm here for it
This might be the beginning of a new golden age of gaming... Heck, at this pace... It might even be a Diamond Age at some point
@JohnSmith-h6d no kidding dude I've literally been seeing all these PC exclusive games and finally decided it's time get a PC
@@josepholiver-m5iyoure not gonna regret it. just be aware for genres like shooters it can take a bit to transition from controller to m&k. i remember back when destiny 2 came to pc after 3 years on console, it took me a couple months to stop using a controller haha. youll be better off for it though. mouse and keyboard for games like these is really something special.
Yell at the devs for me; Tell them to make tabletop minis with their stuff. Hell, give me the terrain, especially.
I want that shit on my table. I want to paint it. It looks stellar.
So the best part of this in my opinion it’s how real the humor is, as someone that served some situations you get in are so surreal you can’t help but laugh.
Battle Buddy named Sachs explained this with: "No, this is great. The shittier things get, the better our story later... assuming we survive." :D
My buddy got shot through the leg by a sniper in the tall grass at our TCP. We reacted and waited for medevac. One of my other buddies started yelling to me from another turret to my rear while I watched the tall grass from mine with the 240B. I looked back towards him, past the red smoke billowing near my wounded buddy and the medics covering on the bank of a canal, and he was waving at me. He had eaten two eye holes and one mouth hole into the weird bread slice from an MRE and was wearing it like a mask. He yelled “check it out dude haha!” and started darting his tongue through the mouth hole.
During an engagement with a sniper and overwatch for a medevac.
I laughed not because it was really funny, more because I honestly couldn’t tell if I was tripping balls or not anymore. It’s one of the most vivid memories I have of all that.
@@SnoopRocket I still miss my 249. You know the special delight everyone gets from watching the under-tall carry their body weight a few times over. I remember loading up our humvee in Kuwait for the drive to Baghdad. I swear there were foot deep holes in the sand for every step I took.
One of my vivid's would be the chunk of roof missing one morning from the building we slept in at our FOB. Hooray for the mortar shell not detonating!
That was also an excuse to chat up our EOD guys who were fucking wildly hilarious Australians, so bonus there.
I'm glad you made it back, battle.
@@detaineepyramid Likewise man. Close call there, sounds like.
The quality on this guy's videos are insane.
The description of "living artbook" is insanely accurate. Damn near every frame of gameplay footage I've seen looks like it came from one. One hell of a job on the devs part, I cannot express how much I'm looking forwards to the full release.
Just don't preorder
@@5.7addict70 they basically created a game that allowed them to finally put all the designs they wanted in a sandbox, and I’m here for it
"I'm not a Reviewer...", Yes, you are a marketing agent... a good one 😂
This is for me one of your best vids so far. You’re skript writing was perfect to tell the story of this games world. All the cuts, visuals and the spoken word were on point, even the pauses. Well done mate, keep up the nice work. It’s enriching for all of us.
@@LeGraete thank you!
Man, the hype for this game is like finding a box of fanta(or whatever flavored drink) when you were looking for ammo or water.
Damn man that closing remark hit home. In a world where I feel I have no actionable way of influencing it for the better there is always the hope of hanging onto a dream; in a world that is full of so much reductive miasma you can add something positive, never give up.
Honestly I feel if everyone chilled out and stepped back for a moment things would get better, but sadly many people have do much to gain from what’s going on.
@@rickfastly2671thats how its always been. the people that are all chilling will get taken advantage of by someone with something to gain.
great video! I'm glad I found it to give me the background I've been craving to this game.
I think what The Forever Winter encapsulates is exactly what I always love seeing in war movies.
It's not about the action or violence, it's not about good vs evil, hell it's not even about the war itself.
It's about the people who fight those wars. It's about the humanity of warfare.
_THAT_ is what I love about war movies. It's their ability to take such a complicated and nuanced subject matter, boil it down to a handful of moments that you can't easily explain with words.
But when you watch them, everything just clicks and you go, " _Oh_ , I get it now."
Hacksaw Ridge, Saving Private Ryan, The Hurt Locker, just to name a few.
It's all the human moments in those movies where if you blink, you'll miss it.
War is a weird place where you can see both the absolute worst humanity has to offer while also seeing the pinnacle of humility.
Isn't that every FPS campaign with a war in existence?
Like, we never see the whole thing, but only the fraction our protagonist sees.
@@Cowboycomando54
Every extremes has its opposites.
I wonder why they went for third-person as the main viewpoint. I'd think first person view would be the go-to for a game this invested in atmosphere-building.
It’s a very art centric team, they probably wanted to put lots of focus on designs of the player characters since it’s what interested them. Personally I would’ve preferred first person though
@mutz6248 id love an option for both i like the third person but a option to switch if I feel like it would be great!
23:00 BRO has got the wish that many of us want to have to have our own character or art in the video game we like to play
You're not a journalist, but you are hell of a writer. Your description of the world was pure art.
So, theoretically we should be able to use the uevr injector to run this in 3d on a headset. And you bet your ass I will be doing just that. I want to watch a mech tower over me in full scale.
Your videos have made me insanely hyped for a game that would have never otherwise been on my radar.
I had seen some trailers and random coverage of this game and i presumed it would be something similar to Once Human. But after learning about the game mechanics and backstory from your videos, i have hopes for this to be on my list of all time greats. One if those games where i will be checking in on and playing for years to come.
Also, your video editing is incredibly good.
Such an absolutely fantastic video. I've glanced at some material of this game here & there & thought it was pretty cool but not much past that. This alone has gotten me very interested in this game & its world
>me walks up
>rileo post at the exact same time
>oh yea it’s all coming together
Damn your editing and documentary style is so awesome
@@smokeyfantastico thanks!
@23:57 extremely important bit of information that bears repeating.
Having it set in a post Kessler syndrome world was a great detail
What is Kessler Syndrome? It feels like I've heard that before.
@@declanjones8888 It's the concept that if there is enough small bits of debris orbiting the earth it will become impossible to use satellites or enter into space because anything you send up there will be hit by orbiting debris and become debris
@@declanjones8888 It’s a chain reaction where the destruction of some satellites creates space debris that destroys more satellites, that creates more space debris, until it becomes impossible for any satellites to survive because of the sheer amount of space debris floating in orbit.
Starlink 😅
@@kato1kalinStarlink is way too low to cause Kessler Syndrome.
For a video covering a hellish war game you sure are giving us some heavenly treatment with these uploads ♥
despite the sorta rocky start (was pretty much fixed in a day despite some bugs but its early access get over it) i have absolutely loved this game. and honestly its mainly because of the art style
One amazing video before their release, hell yeah can’t wait!
Hello
Well if you called yourself a games journalist that would be an self deprecating.
So much art and lore... its amazing how they're able to blend so many styles and personalities together into this breath-taking aesthetic. Thank you Riloe for giving us such a deep look into this crazy game in such a well written way. I hope to create content in the same quality as you and the people at Fundog one day. The hype is unreal!!
I've been enjoying your videos about this game specifically.
And the references about Zdzisław Beksiński's work and Blame! Man, what a time to be alive.
That so cool ,that you're passionate and the devs rewarded your passion by putting your OC in the game
It was pretty good OC too, like damn that is some old-school French manga art type shit. I was impressed
It’s funny to call something anti-war, since anything anti war glorifies war in one way or another
I think the only thing that really concerns me about this game is what looked like the inclusion of "heroes" or "specialists" that you have to pick from which has been massively overused recently in the gaming market. Personally, I think the sweet spot falls somewhere between having your characters be the equivalent of a 'faceless soldier' or the addition of some kind of personalization that isn't trivialized down to entire character skins. I sincerely hope my concerns are proven wrong.
I wouldn’t mind it if there’s a little lore about them.
i need the lore/art book to this right fucken now
i will be buying the art book when they inevitably release one
I'm unironically almost more excited for the artbook than the actual game 😄
4:27 this stood out to me the most. Imagine seeing drones soar overhead, shooting them down and taking their cargo without any thought. Only to unknowingly seal the fate of some platoon of soldiers.
3:15 Hawken maps spotted
"Just because the world is on fire, doesn't mean that you need to be a jerk about it"
Excellent words. A lot would be diferent if some people had these as parts of their cores values... or if their were taught consistently.
Frankly, this video was and excellent eay to see the universe of the game and get you hooked, I hope that Forever Winter grows a lot in gameplay, lore, and art.
This series has just gotten progressively better with each video. Really awesome to hear some more about stuff behind the scenes now.
23:16 that's cute ong
It's really interesting how new era of the Post-Apocalypse is different from the ones that emerged from the old USSR cold-war era culture (wasteland, fallout, mad max, dr strangelove, red dawn, terminator etc), now we have this new cold-war with China which (for better or worse) evokes a terrifying vision of a world wide collapse and a new distinct form of the post-apocalypse, I wonder what else emerges from this troubling era.
Shout out to the devs for writing a perfect in-universe excuse for making procedural generated maps (outposts being destroyed, moved, and rebuilt ad nauseum) and choosing to not do that.
Haha it’s true! They considered it, but preferred to do everything by hand to push the art and curate specific vistas and map movement
In love with the details about the tank turrets mirroring the skulls on pikes and the angled spikes defending against air dropped cyborgs instead of their ancient counterparts defending against horse-mounted calvary. Something so wild about that kind of parallel
I’m not as deep as you are with the design stuff, but I am extremely excited for this game because my favorite thing is being a mercenary in low worlds, from what a witchers day to day is to the stalker anomaly gameplay loop without the story, just doing jobs and living free outside it
I feel this is going to be one of those games that is going to be heavily misunderstood by the media (and a portion of it's players) but I am looking forward to playing it.
i like being a middle man but i still think being a solider fighting in this war would be even better. but we would need a full on triple a team with triple a money to take this concept and expand it to being a soldier. because the game would be ten times bigger in scale if you were one of the soldiers or robot warriors
I adore that your vibe through this whole video is that you aren't the least bit objective and you wear it on your sleeve. Just loving all over this game, it's vibe, and style even though it's still being made, and just wanting everyone in the world who likes this kind of thing to find out about it. The wholesome message at the end is a nice cherry on top. Thank you.
I love what I am seeing but there is 1 mayor concern for me: the way water works in the game. Why do I have to play the game when I *need* to instead of *want* to?
What I mean is the watersystem works in a way that you will loose progress when you run out of water and the game. According to the devs, does not calculate the waterusage when you play but also when you do not play is what I understood this as (I cant find the video anymore, they sat down and talked about this and other things at length. Someone correct me if I am wrong here please). So the game forces me to play instead of making me want to play it. It also punishing people that take time off from it.
I hope I didnt miss anything like a singleplayer mode with bots where this does not apply but what I got from the devs latest video is as I wrote above and I dont like that. The idea is good, you need water to survive, to keep the other people (NPCs) in your base going and get benefits from them. But I dont like the way it is forced, the whole watermechanic could easily be solved by using time for actions taken as a measure for waterusage. Example: sleeping after being out on a few small missions or doing an upgrade to the base / equipment with NPCs. That would be the better approach.
Hope this is a misunderstanding. Any opinions?
That's a valid concern indeed. It probably gonna be a bad mechanic if it gets implemented fully. Hope this get a good attention, as nobody likes something shoves to them as responsibility, when they just wanna try to play it as casually. Also, the much glazing in this video is concerning me as making the game aesthetically pleasing but too little or boring gameplay. That's a red flag in my book. Hopefully the game ain't end up as a pipe dream, due to how ambitious it becomes.
@@cipherstormwolf14 the water system is contentious! I always thought of it like Fuel in your generator in Tarkov; if you don’t restock it and keep your hideout running it runs out. Since losing water will never reset your account/character progression and only your gear and traders, I feel it encourages people to remember that your character is what matters, not the guns or meds you have in your stash. We’ll see how hard it is to deal with in your actual game
@@riloegaming This is what I was thinking it would be like too. and honestly I'm pretty fine with it. If you only lose traders and equipment and not more proper longer term progression like character and stats then not much different to playing unturned or rust or other survival games online where you risk being raided and or griefed by other players while you are offline or even online. So long as there isn't anything ultra important attached to water death I'm good with it. I like that the devs have a proper vision for what they are putting out and what they want the game experience to be like. Doesn't sound like it'll be too terrible to unrust and gather water after having not played for a while.
This game looks so neat. Attack on Titan, Warhammer 40k, Steampunk, just awesome vibe. Not sure on the gameplay but I love the setting.
19:30 putting in these moments of fun not only makes everything feel more real and grounded, but also leads to the horrors on the battlefield feel even more horrific.
If the people in there feel like actual people, you care way more about their suffering
Things must have gotten REALLY bad for Europa to have been starving before the war, since the faction would likely have the breadbaskets of Western Europe and North America in their territory.
imagine how devastated the climate and terrain have to be for the entire north and south america and western europe to be running out of food compared to eastern europe and asia
or maybe they're both running out of food since eurasia is overpopulated?
the love and support and success these guys already are receiving is so fucking inspiring. its proof and reassurance that people who do have the bravery to break the mold in this not giving a fuck way, have their voices heard this loud and clear. their story is one that confirms my prior beliefs and hopes about my own project
these guys deserve this support, and this channel is fucking awesome
So, what I'm hearing from this, Is that what used to be LA has become a brutal hellscape, riddled with callous bloodshed, anarchy, crime, and diseases while a never ending war rages on...
Sounds to me like it hasn't changed one bit lmao
Your doing this game justice, Your videos are seriously great, worldbuilding for a game is so important. Can't wait for you to do a video on marathon
Went to Moselum, first thing I noticed was a sign that pointed to brazil. I was like ...nah, lets not go in that direction. Regular brazil is already bad, I can't imagine what grimdark brazil would be like.
"Kai Lim, or ukitakumuki-"
+jaw drops+
Boss, this was your project?!
_aims gun_
Always has been.
As a longtime Planetside 2 veteran, its heartening to see some tiny hints of that game in the design language of this one. Max-like armored suits, infantry, and the even bigger scale tickle something in my brain, and I look forward to playing this thing!
I never thought my boy Riloe would get so big i see him on pyrocynical, I'm proud of you man
💀
"Why does the third of the three brothers, who shares his food with the old woman in the wood, go on to become king of the country? Why does James Bond manage to disarm the nuclear bomb a few seconds before it goes off rather than, as it were, a few seconds afterwards? Because a universe where that did not happen would be a dark and hostile place. Let there be goblin hordes, let there be terrible environmental threats, let there be giant mutated slugs if you really must, but let there also be hope. It may be a grim, thin hope, an Arthurian sword at sunset, but let us know that we do not live in vain."
- Terry Pratchett
The Forever water
Really really excellent stuff. I'm really happy to see something so powerful created in response to the constant cannibalism of private equity in the industry. Just folks treating a medium as *content* slop and pulling the plug on anything that don't make line go up. This game is really such a wonderful antidote to that mentality.
Man, the concept art for this game gives me so much nostalgia for Battlefield 2142.
Absolutely wild, this is all I've ever wanted!
>ashes of america
>game takes place in a war between europe and asia
Europa is not Europe
@@riloegaming
The bigger question is Euruska has PARTS of Africa but what about South America, Africa and Australia and Co?
@@requiemlul3140 not all parts of the world are directly part of these superpowers
@warlerker
Think of Europa like dark sci-fi nato
@@riloegaming yea but they still exist...don't they? or are we an Australian scavenger and if that's the cause where is my funny little accent lol
The game looks like a really good concept with PHENOMENAL art, meh looking graphics, even less appetizing gameplay.
19:45
You mention 40k as a thing "not to be" (and I fundamentally agree with your point), but, as someone who's been in the 40k sphere for at this point almost 20 years (I started half the editions of the game ago xD), I can tell you that "the world is crap so that the tiny acts of good/heroism can shine brighter" was much more closer to being the point of past grimdark.
If anything, current 40k seems to have focused on going through the motions, rather than doing things consciously and I hope that the Fun Dog folks learn its many lessons.
@@talscorner3696 interesting, cheers!
I just raised a glass of local brew to your cheers, mate ^^
Also, big congrats for having your artwork turned into someone that will probably full me and my mates full of hot lead XD
Thanks for your series on this game, I've invested. I'm new to gaming @ 56yo so the art style is smack bang in my 20's, love it.
The game it's oozing with soul, very very VERY green, hopefully the development goes smoothly
"I'm not being objective"
objectivity is for scientists, and games are art.
I trust your objective opinion because it aligns with my own. if it didn't i wouldn't watch you.
Bro is now basically a Forever Winter Ad channel lul
I ain't complaining
All riloe does is just shill for whatever game he thinks is kind of cool
@@R_trigger1344I miss that side of RUclips
Not toxic positivity but just "I found this and think it's dope"