this is the first time ive watched one of your videos and i love the reference to classic Top Gear with the lap times! and the lap board on the back of your door is so cool!
Thanks for watching! Glad you enjoyed it! I thought the lap times would be a fun way of judging locomotive scale speed and gearing (and to race trains)!
Plastic piston Rods and no cab just convinced me to pass on this. This is unacceptable. I figured it would just be a Skarloey repaint but I would have hoped they would have done more. If it’s this cheap then the price should reflect that
Thanks for watching! I thought so as well for almost £150! I know smaller doesn't necessarily mean cheaper to make but in this instance that argument can more reasonably be made.
It’s a simple fix for both The metal plastic rods can be swapped for a tallyificstionkit that was made at some point to fix this here issue And the cab can be removed and re painted on the inside to fix the windows !
It’s not just Bachmann USA making these, I think it’s the Bachmann Thomas people making these… a recent-ish livestream from them showed the chief of the Thomas range displaying their Talyllyn model (and for some reason being proud about the cab as I recall). And they announced a delay/cancellation of their Duncan model, because they can’t turn it into Tallylynn No 6. Douglas (because the cgi era of the show messed up Duncan’s model to make it where he doesn’t match his real life prototype). At least, I think that’s what happened. I might be misremembering
@@Alpha-oo8 Thanks for watching! That's a fair point, and if true they've really missed the mark on market expectations for models of preserved engines and realistic prototypes. What's passable and counts as quality for a TV show character model doesn't translate to railway modelling or miniature replicas more widely.
Thanks for watching! In that time we have had some fantastic RTR 009 models that have only made the shortcomings of this one far more obvious. I really wanted to enjoy this one but it didn't live up to the excitement for me personally.
Thanks for watching! Bachmann Europe had released all the British narrow gauge locos up until now so I expected them all to be under that range. Bachmann US I presumed specialised in American, HO scale rolling stock to my knowledge. But I guess it makes sense if you look at it from a tooling perspective - Bachmann US' Thomas range developed the Skarloey tooling.
I have just thought of a model you need Try the double farlie It’s the perfect mix of talylln and your George England … here’s why - They are Bachman like talylln . So will have no issues with all of your wagons when coupling up in that area of your videos . And as for running quality . It goes as a good speed and from my knlwledge dosent have any low riding bits on the chassis In short it’s perfect .
Check out my review of the Statfold Barn open wagon and brake van. I borrowed my dad's double fairlie for that test, but as it was pre-owned I can't give it a true review. That model is stated to need minimum second radius curves to run but went smoother round my track than Talyllyn!
What a great review, I received mine the other day, and have yet to take it out of the box. I paid 109.99 US dollars for mine, plus shipping. Just looking at it I am disappointed as well, and after seeing your review, I wish I did not waste my money☹. Bachmann has and can do better in OO9 (HOn30 here, but I model OO9). Their little Baguley Drewry is outstanding, lots of detail and mine runs like a top. I am going to purchase another. Again Thank You for the review, thinking of hedging my losses and sell it on the famous auction site and maybe get a little back! Cheers!
Thanks for watching! Glad you found it useful. Yeah I agree, this doesn't hold a candle to Bachmann Europe's 009 offerings which is unfortunate given Talyllyn's significance and appeal. Hopefully they rectify this if they do the rest of the Talyllyn fleet and up their standards.
Thanks for watching! These have only been released in the US so far, they aren't due to be released more generally in the UK until early next year. I got mine via a US import of some stock.
Thanks for watching! Yes that's true, but a lot of models have come out over the decades engineered slightly differently/tactfully compared to their true-to-life counterparts in order to aid negotiation of miniature-scale trackwork, so it's not outside the realms of possibility and would've been useful here.
@ that’s totally valid. I’m honestly surprised they didn’t attempt to incorporate a Peter sam style gearbox where the pony truck is powered as well to help with pulling power. They missed an opportunity to update the model. That and the cab interior. You were spot on that it’s lacking detail big time.
@@karenfan010 Thanks for watching! I think Bachmann's plan is to use the Bachmann Thomas toolings as the basis for their Talyllyn engine releases rather than vice versa, so Duncan's lack of direct transferability into Douglas is why Duncan was cancelled. As such they couldn't get as much back on what the tooling investment would cost. The same issue persists even if they tooled Douglas up as it wouldn't look enough like Duncan for a straight forward alternative release.
@@TheKnightTrain88 the blame for that is mostly duncan’s cgi design as it looks awfully inaccurate to douglas, and mattel won’t allow them to use anything but the cgi series for reference. although if they released douglas first that would give them an excuse to use its rolling for duncan.
I work mainly with just N scale … but I would like 009 Since it’s the same gauge of tracks … however if I were to get one first it would be Princess . Tho I have seen talylln in person and she is an adorable little engine she is . And I never got to see any small or large englands … tho I have seen double farlie … down york Tho the models for 009 I have always wanted was Double farlie Princess And a mainline hunslet linda if I could I would … and I could considering I have N scale tracks that can fit the engines . It is for me mainly the different couplers . I mean … I don’t want to pourposley purchase completely seperate rollingstock for a talylln . Tho … when I build my layout in N scale . I am fearing if I run my 009 talylln on it she will look massive . What do you think ? If I have fully N scale should I even consider a talylln model of my own I mean at the least princess has alternate N couplers so she could really work fine on my layout ignoring that it’s narrow gauge 00 on N scale rails . However Talylln … she has no alternate couplers . And I really hate that about her model . Sure I recon that Bachman don’t expect me to have there 009 tallylln pulling any N scale BR mark 1 express coaches 😂 but it could happen if I chose and I wish we got a detail bag . Anyways . Bye . And what’s your thoughts .
Thanks for watching! The Peco Englands are alright but they are plastic in body and tender construction and have traction tyres to make up for a lack of weight. If you find one on the cheaper side it won't hurt to pick on up and give it a go - they are one of the cheaper pre-owned 009 gauge locos going, mine was £90 from Hattons. Peco also do alternative couplings to the standard hook and loop, so you could give their rolling stock a try. most Bachmann 009 stock is the same with couplings that can be changed, but the exception is anything from the Bachmann Thomas range with the same couplings as Talyllyn. Hope that helps!
Thanks for watching! That's how the Talyllyn railway themselves pronounce it on their videos and media so I went with that. It seems to be how the double L in Welsh words is pronounced but I'm not a Welsh speaker so happy to be corrected on that!
I have an update for you my skarloey is now dcc chipped and on very low speeds i wasnt able to achieve before on analogue it gets stuck on peco points too
@@epicmoon8874 oh no! So it's not just mine. I wonder if the Peco 009 track isn't widely available in the US, so the tooling was developed to run on N gauge track which is more widely available and has smaller scale point moulding. That would explain a fair bit if that's the case.
@TheKnightTrain88 interestingly is that my roco h0e points still r not a problem but luckily at a bit more then the slowest speed possible peco isn't a problem for my skarloey either
Thanks for watching! My Bachmann Skarloey arrived just after this model and that is a better runner. The gauging on Skarloey came in at 7.6/7.7mm so I might try and re-gauge Talyllyn's wheels to see if that improves the running at all.
I have a Talyllyn in the green livery, and as soon as I removed it from the box, I realised it was just a Skarloey repaint job. I am truly disappointed, as my other Bachmann locos are of exceptional accuracy and quality. I haven’t tried mine yet, but as I have Peco 12inch rad points, I am anticipating trouble now. Did you just file off the offending bulge underneath to get clearance? I’m not sure yet how I will get over the coupling height problem. Bachmann have really let their customers down with this model.
Thanks for watching! I didn't file off any of the bulge on the bottom as I wasn't sure what the consequences might be, but if some thinning of the bulge is possible that might be enough to do the trick.
I don't know if things are the same in Europe but the reason buying from bachmann directly is usually more expensive this is to protect their relations with retailers
Thanks for watching! Yes it's the same in Europe. The Bachmann website is good for a laugh at what they think the prices should be. Alternatively, the retailer prices are a saving grace!
I like it but the cab is just so sad Why they didn’t cut away at the rear roof and then to give us a regulator break gauges pipes and so on … moulded or seperate . And this is a great model . Personally the black version I prefer . However the cab is depressing A 8/10. Nice but can lacking extensively
Thanks for watching! I agree, even a moulded cab would've been better than a flat surface. The cab sides are so tall and open you can't help but see inside, so it makes sense to fill the space.
@@TheKnightTrain88 I mean if I ever get the model . I would have to cut that back section off to reveal the front windows . And maybe even a custom cab interior However that’s if I ever get it … I may just end up not … but if I do it will be the black varient .
@@TheKnightTrain88I am a more N scale person But never know . They have the same scale tracks . And I did used to work 00 . So I could always re use the scenery from that layout I had . And some peco track would do the trick for a 009 layout exclusively . Tho I don’t know … maybe
8:30 I see what you did there.. 8:46 WEEEEEEE- 5:55 Nothing is more painful than watching an N scale Talyllyn- struggling on the points 11:44 especially with coupling up to a few slate trucks Overall, thoughts; I would say that the Bachmann Talyllyn is a pretty good model, but the detail, especially the cab is lacking. That pretty much goes to almost anything that back does with the Thomas range. They just couldn’t make up their mind if they’re talking at Pacific audiences, but for Talyllyn in this case, they just gotta put a little bit more detail especially the cab and then it will be better, but the finish is quite good, especially the wheels.
Thanks for watching! You're 100% right, more effort and finesse was needed here, and the fact that the Talyllyn railway and engine hold a special place in the hearts of a lot of people makes the flaws sting a bit more.
The minimum radius for the Bachmann Skarloey is 11¼ inch radius according to the Bachmann Trains USA catalogue. However, the model will happily negotiate the PECO set track curves without issue, which has a radius of 9 inches. And since this model is basically Skarloey in disguise 🥸 you shouldn't have any problems. The minimum radius that Skarloey will go around is 7 inches, but that's the model's absolute minimum tolerance as the trailing pony truck is rigid and part of the whole chassis assembly.
Thanks for watching! It's odd they didn't include that information in the Talyllyn listing which would've had wider viewership I imagine. On the whole the engine does just about manage first radius, but I'll be bearing the temperamentalities in mind for any future layouts I design!
Thanks for watching! Wise decision. With all the drawbacks and current economy I don't see these selling as hotly as they perhaps could have, but we'll have to wait and see once the main UK stock arrives!
@@TheKnightTrain88 I live in Australia, i expect they’ll show up on our Amazon store here… in my experience that’s the cheapest place to get Bachmann US’s narrow gauge stuff
Wow this review has really infuriated me because of your basic understanding of what this model was ALWAYS gonna be. Its Skarloey in Talyllyn colours. Just like Dolgoch will be a repainted Rheneas and so on. If you didn't realise that from the very second it was announced then i genuinely don't know what to tell you.
Thanks for watching! I'm going to have to disagree with you there. I always expected this to be a basic Skarloey repaint, but I also expected Bachmann to realise that modelling a real-life, preserved engine had a different set of connotations and expectations for the product being delivered. It is perfectly valid to to critique this under the same lens as a Hornby or Rapido model and to call out any corner-cutting, cost-cutting or wrongly described features/details that don't align with the selling price. Plenty of other viewers seem to share the same sentiment and expectations as myself and agree that this model dropped the ball and missed the mark they were expecting it to hit.
@TheKnightTrain88 again you completely miss understand what this model was always gonna be. Bachmann said themselves that this was a recolour of Skarloey so no additional features to the model, no cab details, no changes Die-cast mould. In fact the Bachmann Thomas Narrow gauge engines are made with the intention of being able to repaint them further down the line and sell them as Talyllyn locos. I've never seen a review that fails to understand the tooling so much as this.
@@anthonyfisher-7090 if that's so then Bachmann have done a very poor job if communicating that. I rewatched the announcement video, read webpages and forums on this model and never saw an official comment that the tooling would be identical to Skarloey for the sake of that tooling already existing. It's clear a lot of other people didn't get that memo either so I think the criticisms still stand.
@TheKnightTrainlol I'm sure if a shitty Thomas fan like myself can find out that information I'm sure someone like yourself can too. It's always been said right from the very idea of the range. That's why there was such a fuss about Duncan/Douglas as they wouldn't be able to reuse the tooling of Duncan for Douglas as the two don't share enough likeness to be able to do the model. When they do Edward Thomas it'll be Peter Sam's body with the bottom blocked out like the show and with a Giesl Ejector Funnel. These are made by Bachmann US where if they can reuse something they will. It's a cost effective way of producing models. It's the way they've always worked and always will. Again I'm pretty sure if I can figure all that out I'm sure you can aswell. Next time do a bit of research lol or better yet if it looks like the original tooling don't buy it. You were never gonna get cab details or DCC or stay alive, working lamps, sound profiles out of a Thomas model and nor should you. Be grateful we have a ready to Run version of Talyllyn because spoiler alert Bachmann don't have to make these models and let's be real you'll have bought it FROM A THOMAS SHOP 😂
@TheKnightTrain88 what that a Thomas locomotive was used? Because again it was always Bachmann's intention to reuse Skarloey as Talyllyn just like they will with Rheneas into Dolgoch, Peter Sam (which you'll absolutely hate) into Edward Thomas and Sir Handel into Sir Hayden. Bachmann US always reuses tooling where they can and that's not exactly breaking news to anyone. If someone like me can work that out then I'm sure others can aswell. Bachmann were never gonna spend the extra money to fit an existing tooling with additional extras or features like detailed cab (which once you place a crew inside you can't see) DCC, Stay alives, sound profiles. If it weren't for the fact they could sell this as Skarloey it wouldn't even exist yet so I really don't understand what you were expecting especially since I can venture a very good guess you bought it from a website that primarily sells Thomas items.... personally I think you are just being a rivot counter who doesn't see the joy in model railways anymore which is extremely sad
Thanks for watching! It is, but better than nothing for £110-150 is a steep ask. For that money I'd expect something that's decent and reliable in all departments, not just how it looks
Horrid, it isn’t even in scale with the rest of Bachmann’s OO9 range. I expect this when Bachmann re-releases decades old models, but not for modern stuff. Do it properly or don’t do it at all.
Thanks for watching! Yeah this model feels like an attempt at a passable model of the real engine rather than a carefully crafted miniature. The tooling is less than 10 years old!
Thanks for watching! I did order a Skarloey to do more of a direct comparison but it was missed off the packing list. Are you running yours on Peco 009 set track or N gauge track?
@@TheKnightTrain88 I use roco h0e flex track and one set of points from roco and two peco stream line points, the radius is pretty tight the peco coach one of the long ones struggles a bit, also i have some kato h0e unitrack which is tighter than my layout probably radius 1 and there skarloey doesn't have any issues either
Thanks for watching! I did wonder whether they would add the blue one when the engine returned to steam, potentially as a Talyllyn railway exclusive release. But alas nothing happened.
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this is the first time ive watched one of your videos and i love the reference to classic Top Gear with the lap times! and the lap board on the back of your door is so cool!
Thanks for watching! Glad you enjoyed it! I thought the lap times would be a fun way of judging locomotive scale speed and gearing (and to race trains)!
Skarloey to bachmann: WHAT DID YOU DO!?-
Thanks for watching! Duncan and Sir Handel are meant to be the rough riders, not Skarloey's own brethren!
railway community: but your not!
Plastic piston Rods and no cab just convinced me to pass on this. This is unacceptable. I figured it would just be a Skarloey repaint but I would have hoped they would have done more. If it’s this cheap then the price should reflect that
Thanks for watching! I thought so as well for almost £150! I know smaller doesn't necessarily mean cheaper to make but in this instance that argument can more reasonably be made.
It’s a simple fix for both
The metal plastic rods can be swapped for a tallyificstionkit that was made at some point to fix this here issue
And the cab can be removed and re painted on the inside to fix the windows !
@@MaxwellTheTrainFan If I'd wanted a kit engine, I'd buy one. A "RTR" engine should be just that - working couplers, able to run on normal track, etc.
@@ReggieArford fair point
But it looks good enough to me …
It’s not just Bachmann USA making these, I think it’s the Bachmann Thomas people making these… a recent-ish livestream from them showed the chief of the Thomas range displaying their Talyllyn model (and for some reason being proud about the cab as I recall). And they announced a delay/cancellation of their Duncan model, because they can’t turn it into Tallylynn No 6. Douglas (because the cgi era of the show messed up Duncan’s model to make it where he doesn’t match his real life prototype).
At least, I think that’s what happened. I might be misremembering
@@Alpha-oo8 Thanks for watching! That's a fair point, and if true they've really missed the mark on market expectations for models of preserved engines and realistic prototypes. What's passable and counts as quality for a TV show character model doesn't translate to railway modelling or miniature replicas more widely.
Worth remembering that there is nothing between Bachmann UK and Bachmann US....but air.
They have different design teams working in different countries mate
What a moan!! A few years ago we didn’t have rtr 009 I can’t wait to get one
Thanks for watching! In that time we have had some fantastic RTR 009 models that have only made the shortcomings of this one far more obvious. I really wanted to enjoy this one but it didn't live up to the excitement for me personally.
Why not Bachmann US 🇺🇸 release it? Americans love foreign locomotives too.
Thanks for watching! Bachmann Europe had released all the British narrow gauge locos up until now so I expected them all to be under that range. Bachmann US I presumed specialised in American, HO scale rolling stock to my knowledge. But I guess it makes sense if you look at it from a tooling perspective - Bachmann US' Thomas range developed the Skarloey tooling.
@@TheKnightTrain88they do but they already had the tooling in the US range from the Skarloey model.
I have just thought of a model you need
Try the double farlie
It’s the perfect mix of talylln and your George England … here’s why -
They are Bachman like talylln . So will have no issues with all of your wagons when coupling up in that area of your videos .
And as for running quality . It goes as a good speed and from my knlwledge dosent have any low riding bits on the chassis
In short it’s perfect .
Check out my review of the Statfold Barn open wagon and brake van. I borrowed my dad's double fairlie for that test, but as it was pre-owned I can't give it a true review. That model is stated to need minimum second radius curves to run but went smoother round my track than Talyllyn!
What a great review, I received mine the other day, and have yet to take it out of the box. I paid 109.99 US dollars for mine, plus shipping. Just looking at it I am disappointed as well, and after seeing your review, I wish I did not waste my money☹. Bachmann has and can do better in OO9 (HOn30 here, but I model OO9). Their little Baguley Drewry is outstanding, lots of detail and mine runs like a top. I am going to purchase another. Again Thank You for the review, thinking of hedging my losses and sell it on the famous auction site and maybe get a little back! Cheers!
Thanks for watching! Glad you found it useful. Yeah I agree, this doesn't hold a candle to Bachmann Europe's 009 offerings which is unfortunate given Talyllyn's significance and appeal. Hopefully they rectify this if they do the rest of the Talyllyn fleet and up their standards.
I can't seem to find one on Ebay
Thanks for watching! These have only been released in the US so far, they aren't due to be released more generally in the UK until early next year. I got mine via a US import of some stock.
I see your point with the immnbile trailing truck but to be fair that is how the actual loco is set up is it not?
Thanks for watching! Yes that's true, but a lot of models have come out over the decades engineered slightly differently/tactfully compared to their true-to-life counterparts in order to aid negotiation of miniature-scale trackwork, so it's not outside the realms of possibility and would've been useful here.
@ that’s totally valid. I’m honestly surprised they didn’t attempt to incorporate a Peter sam style gearbox where the pony truck is powered as well to help with pulling power. They missed an opportunity to update the model. That and the cab interior. You were spot on that it’s lacking detail big time.
What number is it called to run it on the layout?
Thanks for watching! I'm not sure what you mean by your question.
@TheKnightTrain88 didn't Bachmann already make a tayllyn?
@Kenstonprodutions nope, they announced this model in August 2022, but it is now only just being released.
@TheKnightTrain88 oh.
if they make douglas I hope they use the tooling for duncan if they ever decide to un cancel him.
@@karenfan010 Thanks for watching! I think Bachmann's plan is to use the Bachmann Thomas toolings as the basis for their Talyllyn engine releases rather than vice versa, so Duncan's lack of direct transferability into Douglas is why Duncan was cancelled. As such they couldn't get as much back on what the tooling investment would cost. The same issue persists even if they tooled Douglas up as it wouldn't look enough like Duncan for a straight forward alternative release.
@@TheKnightTrain88 the blame for that is mostly duncan’s cgi design as it looks awfully inaccurate to douglas, and mattel won’t allow them to use anything but the cgi series for reference.
although if they released douglas first that would give them an excuse to use its rolling for duncan.
I work mainly with just N scale … but I would like 009
Since it’s the same gauge of tracks … however if I were to get one first it would be Princess .
Tho I have seen talylln in person and she is an adorable little engine she is .
And I never got to see any small or large englands … tho I have seen double farlie … down york
Tho the models for 009 I have always wanted was
Double farlie
Princess
And a mainline hunslet linda
if I could I would … and I could considering I have N scale tracks that can fit the engines . It is for me mainly the different couplers . I mean … I don’t want to pourposley purchase completely seperate rollingstock for a talylln .
Tho … when I build my layout in N scale . I am fearing if I run my 009 talylln on it she will look massive .
What do you think ? If I have fully N scale should I even consider a talylln model of my own
I mean at the least princess has alternate N couplers so she could really work fine on my layout ignoring that it’s narrow gauge 00 on N scale rails .
However
Talylln … she has no alternate couplers . And I really hate that about her model . Sure I recon that Bachman don’t expect me to have there 009 tallylln pulling any N scale BR mark 1 express coaches 😂 but it could happen if I chose and I wish we got a detail bag .
Anyways . Bye . And what’s your thoughts .
Thanks for watching! The Peco Englands are alright but they are plastic in body and tender construction and have traction tyres to make up for a lack of weight. If you find one on the cheaper side it won't hurt to pick on up and give it a go - they are one of the cheaper pre-owned 009 gauge locos going, mine was £90 from Hattons.
Peco also do alternative couplings to the standard hook and loop, so you could give their rolling stock a try. most Bachmann 009 stock is the same with couplings that can be changed, but the exception is anything from the Bachmann Thomas range with the same couplings as Talyllyn.
Hope that helps!
I am curious about your pronunciation of Tallyklyn. Is it the Welsh pronunciation to put a ck sound where there is a Y?
Thanks for watching! That's how the Talyllyn railway themselves pronounce it on their videos and media so I went with that. It seems to be how the double L in Welsh words is pronounced but I'm not a Welsh speaker so happy to be corrected on that!
The only problem I have with the skarloey/talyllyn model is the pulling power compared to the rheneas model.
Thanks for watching! I've not got enough beefy wagons/coaches in OO9 to adequately test that yet, but I'll give it a try when I do .
I have an update for you my skarloey is now dcc chipped and on very low speeds i wasnt able to achieve before on analogue it gets stuck on peco points too
@@epicmoon8874 oh no! So it's not just mine. I wonder if the Peco 009 track isn't widely available in the US, so the tooling was developed to run on N gauge track which is more widely available and has smaller scale point moulding. That would explain a fair bit if that's the case.
@TheKnightTrain88 interestingly is that my roco h0e points still r not a problem but luckily at a bit more then the slowest speed possible peco isn't a problem for my skarloey either
But yeah that might actually be the reason most videos that dont use 009 track use kato n gauge track so this might be actually the reason
And when going in a straight line peco points r not a problem at any speed
it also seems to me that is something is wrong with the proportions of the wheels and/or wheel spacing.
Thanks for watching! My Bachmann Skarloey arrived just after this model and that is a better runner. The gauging on Skarloey came in at 7.6/7.7mm so I might try and re-gauge Talyllyn's wheels to see if that improves the running at all.
I have a Talyllyn in the green livery, and as soon as I removed it from the box, I realised it was just a Skarloey repaint job. I am truly disappointed, as my other Bachmann locos are of exceptional accuracy and quality. I haven’t tried mine yet, but as I have Peco 12inch rad points, I am anticipating trouble now. Did you just file off the offending bulge underneath to get clearance? I’m not sure yet how I will get over the coupling height problem. Bachmann have really let their customers down with this model.
Thanks for watching! I didn't file off any of the bulge on the bottom as I wasn't sure what the consequences might be, but if some thinning of the bulge is possible that might be enough to do the trick.
I don't know if things are the same in Europe but the reason buying from bachmann directly is usually more expensive this is to protect their relations with retailers
Thanks for watching! Yes it's the same in Europe. The Bachmann website is good for a laugh at what they think the prices should be. Alternatively, the retailer prices are a saving grace!
I cant lie I like the video it's just seems like a model that isnt perfect because its only been on the market a month
Coal load on the drivers side 😭
Thanks for watching! Gotte keep it where you can I guess 😂 or (god forbid) change the tooling!
I like it but the cab is just so sad
Why they didn’t cut away at the rear roof and then to give us a regulator break gauges pipes and so on … moulded or seperate .
And this is a great model . Personally the black version I prefer . However the cab is depressing
A 8/10. Nice but can lacking extensively
Thanks for watching! I agree, even a moulded cab would've been better than a flat surface. The cab sides are so tall and open you can't help but see inside, so it makes sense to fill the space.
@@TheKnightTrain88 I mean if I ever get the model .
I would have to cut that back section off to reveal the front windows . And maybe even a custom cab interior
However that’s if I ever get it … I may just end up not … but if I do it will be the black varient .
@@TheKnightTrain88I am a more N scale person
But never know . They have the same scale tracks . And I did used to work 00 . So I could always re use the scenery from that layout I had . And some peco track would do the trick for a 009 layout exclusively .
Tho I don’t know … maybe
Welllllll ……
I now can’t choose between the black or red varients … as they seem to be both good
fast boy
Thanks for watching! Yes definitely, way too fast and faster than the box says it should go!
8:30 I see what you did there..
8:46 WEEEEEEE-
5:55 Nothing is more painful than watching an N scale Talyllyn- struggling on the points
11:44 especially with coupling up to a few slate trucks
Overall, thoughts; I would say that the Bachmann Talyllyn is a pretty good model, but the detail, especially the cab is lacking. That pretty much goes to almost anything that back does with the Thomas range. They just couldn’t make up their mind if they’re talking at Pacific audiences, but for Talyllyn in this case, they just gotta put a little bit more detail especially the cab and then it will be better, but the finish is quite good, especially the wheels.
Thanks for watching! You're 100% right, more effort and finesse was needed here, and the fact that the Talyllyn railway and engine hold a special place in the hearts of a lot of people makes the flaws sting a bit more.
The minimum radius for the Bachmann Skarloey is 11¼ inch radius according to the Bachmann Trains USA catalogue.
However, the model will happily negotiate the PECO set track curves without issue, which has a radius of 9 inches.
And since this model is basically Skarloey in disguise 🥸 you shouldn't have any problems.
The minimum radius that Skarloey will go around is 7 inches, but that's the model's absolute minimum tolerance as the trailing pony truck is rigid and part of the whole chassis assembly.
Thanks for watching! It's odd they didn't include that information in the Talyllyn listing which would've had wider viewership I imagine. On the whole the engine does just about manage first radius, but I'll be bearing the temperamentalities in mind for any future layouts I design!
I mean, I think I’ll get one eventually, but only if I can get it at a reasonable price
Thanks for watching! Wise decision. With all the drawbacks and current economy I don't see these selling as hotly as they perhaps could have, but we'll have to wait and see once the main UK stock arrives!
@@TheKnightTrain88 I live in Australia, i expect they’ll show up on our Amazon store here… in my experience that’s the cheapest place to get Bachmann US’s narrow gauge stuff
Wow this review has really infuriated me because of your basic understanding of what this model was ALWAYS gonna be. Its Skarloey in Talyllyn colours. Just like Dolgoch will be a repainted Rheneas and so on. If you didn't realise that from the very second it was announced then i genuinely don't know what to tell you.
Thanks for watching! I'm going to have to disagree with you there. I always expected this to be a basic Skarloey repaint, but I also expected Bachmann to realise that modelling a real-life, preserved engine had a different set of connotations and expectations for the product being delivered. It is perfectly valid to to critique this under the same lens as a Hornby or Rapido model and to call out any corner-cutting, cost-cutting or wrongly described features/details that don't align with the selling price. Plenty of other viewers seem to share the same sentiment and expectations as myself and agree that this model dropped the ball and missed the mark they were expecting it to hit.
@TheKnightTrain88 again you completely miss understand what this model was always gonna be. Bachmann said themselves that this was a recolour of Skarloey so no additional features to the model, no cab details, no changes Die-cast mould. In fact the Bachmann Thomas Narrow gauge engines are made with the intention of being able to repaint them further down the line and sell them as Talyllyn locos. I've never seen a review that fails to understand the tooling so much as this.
@@anthonyfisher-7090 if that's so then Bachmann have done a very poor job if communicating that. I rewatched the announcement video, read webpages and forums on this model and never saw an official comment that the tooling would be identical to Skarloey for the sake of that tooling already existing. It's clear a lot of other people didn't get that memo either so I think the criticisms still stand.
@TheKnightTrainlol I'm sure if a shitty Thomas fan like myself can find out that information I'm sure someone like yourself can too. It's always been said right from the very idea of the range. That's why there was such a fuss about Duncan/Douglas as they wouldn't be able to reuse the tooling of Duncan for Douglas as the two don't share enough likeness to be able to do the model. When they do Edward Thomas it'll be Peter Sam's body with the bottom blocked out like the show and with a Giesl Ejector Funnel. These are made by Bachmann US where if they can reuse something they will. It's a cost effective way of producing models. It's the way they've always worked and always will. Again I'm pretty sure if I can figure all that out I'm sure you can aswell. Next time do a bit of research lol or better yet if it looks like the original tooling don't buy it. You were never gonna get cab details or DCC or stay alive, working lamps, sound profiles out of a Thomas model and nor should you. Be grateful we have a ready to Run version of Talyllyn because spoiler alert Bachmann don't have to make these models and let's be real you'll have bought it FROM A THOMAS SHOP 😂
@TheKnightTrain88 what that a Thomas locomotive was used? Because again it was always Bachmann's intention to reuse Skarloey as Talyllyn just like they will with Rheneas into Dolgoch, Peter Sam (which you'll absolutely hate) into Edward Thomas and Sir Handel into Sir Hayden. Bachmann US always reuses tooling where they can and that's not exactly breaking news to anyone. If someone like me can work that out then I'm sure others can aswell. Bachmann were never gonna spend the extra money to fit an existing tooling with additional extras or features like detailed cab (which once you place a crew inside you can't see) DCC, Stay alives, sound profiles. If it weren't for the fact they could sell this as Skarloey it wouldn't even exist yet so I really don't understand what you were expecting especially since I can venture a very good guess you bought it from a website that primarily sells Thomas items.... personally I think you are just being a rivot counter who doesn't see the joy in model railways anymore which is extremely sad
“Wonky” model.
It’s better than nothing.
Thanks for watching! It is, but better than nothing for £110-150 is a steep ask. For that money I'd expect something that's decent and reliable in all departments, not just how it looks
Horrid, it isn’t even in scale with the rest of Bachmann’s OO9 range. I expect this when Bachmann re-releases decades old models, but not for modern stuff.
Do it properly or don’t do it at all.
Having measured mine, I reckon it is 4mm rather than 3.5.
Thanks for watching! Yeah this model feels like an attempt at a passable model of the real engine rather than a carefully crafted miniature. The tooling is less than 10 years old!
@@TheKnightTrain88 I have done a mini review which will be live in about half an hour on my channel.
This is weird how bad it runs my skarloey runs great
Thanks for watching! I did order a Skarloey to do more of a direct comparison but it was missed off the packing list. Are you running yours on Peco 009 set track or N gauge track?
@@TheKnightTrain88 I use roco h0e flex track and one set of points from roco and two peco stream line points, the radius is pretty tight the peco coach one of the long ones struggles a bit, also i have some kato h0e unitrack which is tighter than my layout probably radius 1 and there skarloey doesn't have any issues either
You’re kidding. NO cab detail!?
@@WillBowenclassiccars not unless you count the painted front cab windows! Technically that's cab detail, even if it's the absolute minimum effort!
It's a repaint of Skarloey of course there's no cab detail!
Talyllyn doesn’t even have 2 coal bunkers…? Why is this model so bad for such an expensive price
And they don’t even have it in a blue version!
Thanks for watching! I did wonder whether they would add the blue one when the engine returned to steam, potentially as a Talyllyn railway exclusive release. But alas nothing happened.