Julian Edelman was all about doing whatever it took - Colin on Edelman's retirement | NFL | THE HERD
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- Опубликовано: 10 июн 2024
- Julian Edelman has announced his retirement after 12-year career with the New England Patriots. Colin Cowherd talks the receivers' contribution to the Patriots' success, and why he believes the Hall Of Fame conversation surrounding Edelman is both warranted and deserved.
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Is Julian Edelman a future Hall of Famer?
If Wes Welker is going to?
i guess
Nope
No.
You can make a case, but it won’t happen. 2nd in like every postseason category, 3 1,000 yard seasons, but no pro bowls is a problem
This is Cowherd's best take ever. 100% on point. Credit where credit is due.
This just changed my mind on the topic. You're right. This was his best take ever
Yes a great take
Val No this is a stupid take Colin is always stupid
Agreed
Val L
Not a Patriots fan, but he'll always be my favorite Patriots player, because he represents the best of my favorite thing about the NFL: the player with a huge chip on his shoulder who, by dumb NFL standards, shouldn't be playing on his favorite position. Have a great retirement Julian, you still are a great inspiration for a lot of people.
Justin Carr L
He’s had a great career. It never should have happened for him. He made it happen.
All I can say is “reliable” when it matters most. Legend
RomeHasFallen99 not a legend
Absolute legend and HOF
His leadership during the Super Bowl against the Falcons was maybe second only to Brady.
Facts
@@iceburgess461 was a legend hater
Edelman is the definition of hard work and never giving up 💪🏽
Hall of fame or not the man deserves his respects
Nobody is disrespecting him. He’s just not a hall of Famer lol
Mazen abbas your 💯💯💯
@@dontthinktohard3991 he will be and theres nothing you can do about it, 3 superbowls and the number one receiver on the best team in the nfl for a decade with countless iconic moments
@@aidanwalker8755 I’d bet my soul and all my possessions now and for the rest of my life. He doesn’t even sniff hall of fame voting.
I don’t think Eli Manning was good but at least his career stats at the end match up with some of the all-time great’s.( I recognize it’s only because he played 7000 years, he’s not an all time great) but statistically Edelman has nothing like literally nothing. You’d had to have at least been the best at something led the league in something. I mean at least Devin Hester is the greatest returner of all time.
@@dontthinktohard3991 umm thats a good point... Except your wrong, when the games are most important in the playoffs edelmans stats is in conversation and second only to jerry rice, then adding a SB mvp some of the most iconic playoff monents of the decade makes him a lock. Besides his production in the regular season is generally unserrated when hes been healthy he gets 80-100 catches and 1k yards. Hes almost certainly not first ballot but without doubt will end up in the hof
So many pivotal 3rd down catches
TD Throw vs Baltimore
Game-winning TD vs Seattle
Crazy, unbelievable catch vs Atlanta
No one embodied being the little engine that could like Edelman. Wouldn't be denied.
include the 2 3rd and 10 conversions against the Chiefs in the 2018 AFC championship game.
2 straight 3rd and 10 completions 2018 AFC championship game at 0 degree Arrowhead stadium in OVERTIME.
It's amazing how Julian Edelman came to the Patriots and made everyone forget about Wes Welker who had been the go to guy for years.
Seriously
absolutely right. He was a better version of welker imo
Welker was a great player too. You don't have to bad mouth one player to glorify a different player. They were both great.
@@johnadams5489 totally. Wes was one of my favorites, even if he is a super bowl curse
Wes who?
I think this is one of the few times that Colin genuinely changed my mind on something. Edelman may not be a first ballot Hall of Famer but definitely second or third. I don’t know if you can tell the NFL story without him.
28:3 may very well be the most remembered Super Bowl of all time. And might as well have been its MVP. No, you cannot.
Julian would rather talk about what he does off the field than on the field. That’s why I think his career is just beginning to start. What a special person he is
So a PED using cheat is a special person. A ridiculous opinion.
Braden L
@@ngc-fo5te 🤡 🤡 🤡
Yup
I'll never forgot in superbowl vs Seattle on 3rd & 14 late Q4, down 10 Edelman caught it over the middle & Kam Chancellor absolutely killed him & he somehow stayed up & ran for another 5-10 yards. He was clearly hurt. He scored the game winning TD 10 minutes later.
Edelman was always all heart. Makes me sad that his last couple seasons were thrown away because his body couldn’t handle it anymore.
i remember this awesome play too. He probably shouldve come out of the game at that time if we're being honest lol. One of the toughest players ever and he sacrificed for us
The Brady's Smurfs... Edelman, Amendola and Hogan... All of them with not much yards but with Big catches when it matters.
This is one of the best segments I’ve ever heard from Collin. Wow man you knocked it out of the park with this one. I turned on the radio yesterday, that’s how I found out Edelman retired. The guys on there were infuriating me with their ignorant rhetoric. Collin with the mic drop on his show today. Way to go.
0 pro bowls, end of discussion
@@MaloneIG leads the most in playoffs and has 3 sb
@@enriquetorres4138 0 pro bowls and you should know superbowls don’t count that much for wide outs
@@MaloneIG I don’t care about pro bowls, I care about being big in the big moments. He’s a champion who comes up clutch when his team needs it. He might be one of the most influential WRs in NFL history
@@enzostefanoni8336 you might not care but the committee does
One word: WINNER. and he played like it.
I hope Julio Jones takes Megatrons story to heart. I want that guy to win a championship.
Megatron should not have signed that second contract. Shoulda went to a real team
Difference is at least Julio got a shot at a Ring
@@coreyross1146 Julio was the second best WR in that SB. JE11 was the MVP of that SB and the best WR. JE11 belongs in the HOF.
@@ML-lv3yk 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
This segment gave me chills. One of the most inspired takes yet - Colin is still in his prime.
Love the take Colin. Edelman was just about as clutch as it gets. He left his mark on the last 3 Super Bowls the Patriots have. People assume the HOF is pure stats. You’re right, with context, there’s no reason he shouldn’t get in. Dude was an absolute stud whenever he needed to be. Just because he played with TB and under BB shouldn’t take any credit away from how he played.
@@dylandylan5526 you’re seriously comparing Julian Edelman to Mark Sanchez? One fluke year doesn’t mean anything. Julian was the Patriots best receiver from 2013-2019 and played well and came up clutch in 3 Super Bowl wins. Didn’t play against the Eagles in 52 because he had a torn ACL and they lost. You should be ashamed you just made that comparison.
@@dylandylan5526 lol on what Earth is Edelmans playoff resume “good?” He has THREE SUPER BOWLS. Sanchez had a 60% completion percentage and never made a Super Bowl. On what earth is that good? Check yourself my guy lmfao
He’s never been a top 10 receiver
@@lino2192 2nd all time in receiving yards come playoff time when it COUNTS... that’s the whole argument Colin is making why are you guys so ignorant
@@Cjballin8 yeah but any elite receiver would’ve done better if they had as many opportunities in the playoffs as Edelman did
I had Edelman on my FFL in the last 2 years, I got 4th and 1st with him! 👍
As a Dolphins fan, Edelman is a great WR, and definitely a HOF
Julian is one of the greatest and fiercest competitors
After watching this video yes Julian Edelman, man Colin's good
4:42 Colin "I can fit in a divorce analogy anywhere" Cowherd
I was looking for this comment
I think he would think your comment is kinda like a divorce. Or marriage.
Hahahaha
I'd been thinking I haven't heard the marriage/divorce analogy in a while... then pop!
Lmfaoooo bro I swear this man scarred
I love the analogy here by colin. Edelman was there when it mattered like a good friend in your time of need. Perfectly describes him.
Great segment Colin. This is why he makes the big bucks
Came here to hear about Edelman instead heard a great life lesson about freindship. Colins Great
I've seen two surveys where the majority say Julian is not a hall of famer. I'm just like "You people don't get it."
AT ALL!!!
cant really say it better than colin did here but context matters. Seems the hall of fame simply wants to be a glorified wikipedia page of all time stat leaders.
Tomorrows headline: Julian Edelman signs a 3 year contract with Tampa Bay.
As much as I'd love to see that, the guy's knee is all kinds of shot. He's going to have a hard enough time walking in his later years. Please, let him rest. He's earned it.
@@Jon-yo3kg agree
He may sit for a year, but I think he'd like to heal up then play one more year with TB12 in Tampa 🏆🏈
I could see a one-year deal, just save him for the playoffs.
@@leceluil After taking one year off for his knee, sure.
Julian Edelman is a Hall of Famer in my book 3🏆🏆🏆 SuperBowls
Julian was a solid pickup truck. Megatron was an Escalade. If you know, you know
To tell the story of football in the 2010s the HoF will need play after play by Julian Edelman. So many of biggest, toughest, most clutch plays of the decade came from him on the biggest stages. Is this not what the Hall of Fame is for? Give this man his due. He's earned it.
Jules perfectly embodies the patriot way. He represents everything great about our team: hardworking, scrappy, smart, and reliable. He sacrificed his body and his fame for the team's success and I'll always love him
Wes Welker played on the Patriots, was a hard worker, went Undrafted, made big catches in games that mattered, was a all pro, pro bowler he should be in the hall of fame
What championships did he win? Only thing he missed was a couple catches in big Super Bowls
Let's talk about HoF snubs why isn't Jim Plunkett in ?
@@boomer6281 Even though Plunkett won 2 SBs with the Raiders, his career numbers sucked. Plus by the time he got to Raiders he was broken from his playing days with Patriots
He also dropped the game winning pass in Super Bowl 46. Wes was a stat pillow that never delivered in the clutch. Edelman was the exact opposite.
drampabay stat pillow lol 😂
Hall of Very Good
Fantastic segment.
I have seen 100s of your videos, you context and the sound of your voice stands out from the rest but this video cements the real reason why I listen to you don't know if you write your speeches or what but great words.
Colin this was lovely. Your comparison of Calvin and Jules sold me. Jules is a legend in New England. His number was called in all the biggest games. It was a privilege to watch him play and cheer him on.
What a great and passionate tribute
Edelman always had heart, my favourite nfl player
Great analysis
In the Super Bowl against the Rams (When Edelman won the MVP) he was double covered the entire game and yet was still somehow wide open at all times. He caught 10 balls. for 141 yards that game.
He certainly had moments that will live on forever in NFL history. A hard fought career and a true winner.
I loved watching the 🐿 Very clutch in the post season. Great slot receiver and all around player. Hes a HoFamer to me. 💰
Spot on!
emotional segment
Wow this is so true
100% agree!
Dear Julian, thank you for the many years of great entertainment! Thanks for giving football everything you had! You are Legend!
Colin’s argument is about team achievements. The HOF is about individual accomplishments. Rice is in the HOF because of his playoff greatness *and* his regular season dominance.
Edelman was a great clutch player. Not a HOFer.
You clearly didn't listen to all of it then. His individual numbers aren't as good because he wasn't demanding the ball all season like the usual cry baby that receivers are. He absolutely wrecked teams in the post season.
@@TheShepdawg9 demanding the ball or not, he doesn’t have the numbers to back up a Hall of Fame selection. You don’t have to demand the ball to be open and productive as a Wide Receiver. Edelman is the most recent example of a scrappy, do-it-all, hustle player. Recency bias is driving this conversation in Edelman’s favor. Ask yourself how hard you argued for Deion Branch or Wes Welker to be in the Hall of Fame when they retired.
@@blakeharris58 numbers just simply aren't everything. Eli Manning had the numbers and he absolutely should not be in the hall of fame. A players impact should not be tied solely to their numbers, and in fact, they are not. That's why TO wasn't a first ballot receiver... because he was a muppet. Impact matters over numbers, and without him, they weren't winning half of the big games that they won with him.
@@blakeharris58 I'm not going to argue for Wes or Deion because I didn't have the television access to watch enough of them.
@@TheShepdawg9 yet you DID watch most or all of Edelman, correct? That’s not your fault, but you have to understand that Hall of Fame voters have the luxury of watching every play of every game. The highlights that you remember are a fraction of the fraction of the whole story. Julian Edelman has been a part of a great story, but the story of the Patriots, not the NFL.
Hall of fame career and I know this may sound controversial but to me this is what the award is all about HALL OF FAME!!!!!!
Couldnt agree more
Best analysis of the day. Totally awesome.
Good segment Colin
Is catch Vs Atlanta in the comeback . Is the greatest catch in football history and a top 5 play in all sport.
Ig u didn’t watch santino Holmes catch a wining touchdown toe tap?
He is the only reason they won that game and that brady is in the conversation for goat
1st ballot, 3 Superbowls, Superbowl MVP,
@B Kretzel
It's complicated. I get all those saying the shouldn't be in, but I'm sure if you ask Brady who'd he like to throw to in a dire situation..He will 100% say Edelman.
I’m a Giants fan. I think Edelman is a HOF player....
For all the reasons you mention. He has had a great career and was always fun to watch. NFL fans were privileged to watch him. I hope he makes it in. It’s a shame we have to have this conversation now though. Can’t we just take a breath and celebrate a great player on a great career??? We can worry about the HOF talk later!!!
Congratulations Julian it was fun to watch you. Enjoy your retirement!!!
Totally Agree.....
This is an amazing point to him being a hall of famer..... and this is after I watched nick wright on FTF argue why he isn’t and I agreed with what he said... but this segment changed my mind....
Football and baseball are 2 vastly different sports. But I guess the question I have to ask is what are supposed to do in a losing situation? Quit? Ask for a trade? Be loyal? It's easy to say he's a Hall of Famer when the TEAM won. Calvin Johnson played for the Lions and as a Vikings fan, they've never been good (kinda like the Browns until recently). So what's more difficult, playing when there is "nothing" to play for on a losing team or playing for a winning team with something to play for?
Well said!
Well said.
If you really know football and you watched Edelman play, he should be a hall of famer. If Terrell Davis is a hall of famer then he should be as well. Like TD his career stats in the regular aren’t great but TD is the greatest playoff running back in NFL history and it’s not even close. Edelman is the 2nd greatest playoff wr in history. That’s HUGE and in my book that counts as something.
Edelman was clutch. Consistently clutch. Not 1st ballot but this man was a beast and part of some significant NFL historic moments.
Thank You For Colin!!!
Couldn’t have said it better myself!!!! And you know Ima Patriots fan and a BIG Julian Edelman fan
Well said 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
Masterpiece of a segment
Colin hit another round tripper on this segment. Thanks Colin. It's fun to watch "The Herd".
Great show Colin
Gonna miss the flying squirrel one of my favorite players to watch ever. He always did something that made you go damn he's good
Julian Edelman was a GOD in fantasy football. Would put up WR1 numbers and would carry your lineup if there were struggles else where...PPR Monster 💯💯💯
It took Art Monk forever to get in, let's at least let him wait a bit lol.
Thank you for mentioning Art Monk. I'll mention a couple more greats you almost never hear spoken about: John Riggins, Daryl Green.
that's why I love this show!
Ge may not have been one of the best receivers in the league each year. But he is one if the best playoff receivers ever. And that man would take a hit to make a catch. He has to be one of the toughest receivers i have seen
Julian EdelGOAT
Damn right Colin!
great take, Colin.Perfectly said.
First time I ever got to the end of one of your segments, on point, GL JE11 you will be missed.
great take Colin
Amazing segment. I agree with every point wow I would PUT HIM IN THE HOF!!!!
Good take. Best argument for HOF status I've heard. We get very stat-centric sometimes. Comparable to the Jeter argument.
@udYi Q Right, but you are sort of missing the point... The way we see value and success can and should sometimes be different than stats, Pro-Bowls (which is debatably of no value), or All-pro. Name a WR that was more important to his team while winning 3 chips?? Not many on that list above Edelman. I don't know if he is worthy of the HOF but this case for it if he does get in.
@udYi Q You missed the point pro bowl is also too stat-centric. And he should have made pro bowls if we're real. And many seasons he missed some regular games which is why he didnt.
Bravo Colin,this was awesome!!!!
Your analogy about the friend
Was fantastic.
This was absolutely the best argument made for Edelman.
I think he should mention your name when he gets enshrined.
Seriously.Great job.
I'm no pats fan but I'm the biggest Edelman fan in the world. He is my sports hero. He I'd absolutely a Hall of famer by what Colin said.
About time someone says this.
You 'SPOT ON" colin!
Talk of smoltz took me back to great memories of prime braves.
Maddox, smoltz, and glavine were an amazing combo of starters, with John rocker for a period being an amazing closer, until his incident.
Smoltz also was great for pivoting to a closer for a while, and did an amazing job at it.
His whole career with that beard and balding head, he looked like he was 47 years old. Wise beyond his years I suppose.
For once I agree with you 100%. Edelman has been one of the most tough, versatile and valuable players I have seen in a long time. Coming from a college quarterback and having the toughness to play so many positions me is a no doubt hall of famer for me and I hate the Patriots LOL.
The Squirrel .. The Legend, Hope he makes more movies with Amendola !
Well said Colin!
Another product of being with the greatest QB & coach of all time. Edelman was all about sacrifice & giving it his all, but not a hall of famer.
Clutch
The 2013 and 2014 super bowls showed you why Julian is loved.
2013 Broncos had better receivers but were soft and got bullied in prime time.
2014 Edelman bounced off of Chancellor
And in ‘16 the greatest catch (imo) in Super Bowl history
IF Edelman doesn't complete that catch in which Canchellor wrecked him, NE does NOT win that game. It was a 3th and 14.
and becoming an unstoppable force in SB LIII with his 10 for 141 and MVP
I thought Colin’s own criteria was “top 5 at your position for two contracts” and I don’t think Edelman is that.
Still a great and clutch player who deserves a ton of respect, don’t get me wrong.
Name a better slot receiver in the NFL since 2012. Between Wes and Julian, they basically created a new position in the NFL.
@@dustinwilson1059 The best slot WR should have better numbers than what Edelman has. Jumping through gymnastics to fit Edelman into the HoF is just hot air that ends up with a resounding "No."
@@AyeeeJP just win baby
Only behind Jerry Rice in postseason catches and yards, clutch in Primetime games, AFC Championship games, and superbowls, made more big catches than any wideout in the last decade, often got doubled because he was so lethal 1 on 1, that's a Hall Of Fame Career in my opinion.
Hall Of Fame or not Julian Edelman is my Favorite all time Patriots Player I just love and appreciate the Dawg in him.
Colin, How are you such a good orator?!
Damn
I was a bit on the fence with regards how most people judge NFL HOF but Colin made a great point and sold me on it. He's accomplished a lot more than some of the HOFers and context is everything
Edelman is what a nfl player should be. A hard working dedicated to his craft. Always on and off the field was a humble and trustworthy man. He should be a first ballot hall of fame. It was awesome to see him play his game.
Crazy how in MLB if you take PEDS you are out of the game yet in NFL you failed a PED test ,suspended the same year and not only do he get to play the SB you can win the MVP and not a mention once on PEDS by any sportscaster:D
The difference to me is Edelman was using them to recover from injury in the offseason, not to perform better in season
One of Colin’s best segments. 100% agree....definitely hall of fame. That was great Colin.
The best edeleman hall of fame reason every
I've been waiting my entire sports watching life for a pundit or commentator to point out the stat compiling of players on bad teams. Colin nailed this take. Archive this clip and play it for the HoF voters in 5 years!
Absolutely relentless