The Samsung colors seem to pop. I have an S95B and I have not upgraded the firmware from firmware version 1310. I’m happy with my television and think it has a beautiful picture. Thanks for all of your efforts.
I got the maximum brightness on my S95B back with service menu mods. Its really bright and has perfect colours. I dont believe G3 can beat that untill I see it with my own eyes
@@stanmarsh8796 you'll just get burn ins in less than 2 weeks lol, rtings has proven factory settings on the S95B already gives burn ins in less than a year so if you've boosted it good luck
I ended up getting a C3 65" recently, and I was surprised at how well it does in a bright room. I was expecting sub-par performance based on my previous CX, but no. The C3 is very bright, and the colors are much more punchy.
Yo!!! I came from my CX to a C2. And I’m right there with you. The CX let me down a good bit in quite a few areas. The C2….just makes me happy, and I don’t have much to gripe about. I was NOT expecting any big brightness advancement in the C2…I was shocked tho. Its noticeably brighter in every aspect. It’s just such a more capable panel, with some actual head room. Where the CX wasn’t nearly as capable, and had virtually no head room. It was being pushed to its absolute limits, and the ABL behavior, and often occurring image retention really showed it. Along with the colors being so washed at those higher luminance levels. No amount of calibration could fix the gripes I had with my CX. Near black was also rather poor on the CX, especially low-bit rate and chrominance overshoot artifacts. The C2 addresses virtually all of that, and shadow detail is this TV’s strong suite. Please don’t get me wrong…I love the CX and it was my introduction to OLED, and I’ll never go back to transmissive tech lol. But it did leave a lot to be desired, and did fall short in some aspects, even to my TCL r625, which was a fraction of the cost, and the TV it replaced. I miss that set tbh. Just bc how far above it’s price point it punched, and how damn accurate it was for a QLED.
I always heard the C9 was even brighter than the CX, i still have my C9 55 inch in bedroom for 4 yrs now, and I’m dying to replace with G3 or Sony A95K or L, since I have S95B in basement. Still love C9 but brightness is lacking by todays standards. I would go G3 but game mode I hear isn’t too great..plus I’m curious about Sony QDOLED with the much hyped processing I hear about…
Is this done with HGiG or DTM enabled on the G3? To me, it looks like DTM, and it is blowing out the image a bit. Basically, the APL looks greater than it should, and this is why I constantly employ ppl to use HGiG over DTM. I get people like the brightness of DTM, but it hurts overall image quality. Raises mids too much, while sacrificing too much detail in the highlights. Plus, HDR is for dark viewing conditions, and that’s FACT! DTM has come a long vs the way it use to behave, but it’s still trying to tone map static content, and errors are made, especially with LG’s implementation. I’m also curious on the S95C’s tone mapping settings. Is it game HDR/static? It seems like the Samsung is tracking closer to reference/PQ EOTF. Regardless, both of these are absolutely amazing! For me tho, I’m hanging onto my C2 for another year or two. It still puts a big smile on my face. Truly, I’m just looking for QDO to keep maturing, and get even brighter full field and peak, with less ABL. Speaking of the shadow detail aspect…this is where LG made HUGE strides. Even just coming from a CX to a C2, both fully calibrated…the C2 handles near black so well compared to my old CX. It’s an area I truly appreciate, especially as a HDR fanatic. PS…did you take the dE’s yourself, or just from Rtings? Bc the LG’s are NOT ACCURATE in game mode. Not in the least, out of the box. They use a cold white point, and DTM is enabled. It’s easy to get very accurate, but it’s nowhere near accurate. The Samsung’s having a dE of over 20 is not the true story either….they’re also very accurate when set up correctly in game mode. The color space bug is the biggest issue I have with Samsung, and I want a fully working CMS, with correct color space conversion/mapping. Before I bow out….BRING BACK HDR videos bro!!!! This SDR just ain’t it lol. Still looks good, but nothing like the old HDR uploaded videos.
@@theelusivememe1772 That’s your prerogative, and sometimes I like DTM too. Rare tho…It has entirely to many compromises. Unless my room is too bright, and I’m compensating. But I’m doing it technically “wrong” then. HDR is not for bright environments..period, end of story. And if a game looks as if it “needs it”…that tells me the HDR was done poorly. I wasn’t asking about your preference tbh lol. No offense. I was asking Villaman if DTM was enabled on the LG, bc it seems to me that it is, and it’s boosting EOTF and the entire APL, thus hurting colors and color volume. Brighter doesn’t just equate to “better”, in all scenarios. It’s nice, but there’s limitations, and only a certain set brightness/APL for a game/film. There are standards… HGiG doesn’t need “support” either. All HGiG is, is a way to disable tone mapping, in order to have a 1:1 map to the display actual capabilities. A hard clip essentially. To avoid double tone mapping, or having DTM mess up, which will always happen, even with the best tone mapping. All HGiG needs is a correction working slider, to set peak brightness, paper white, black point, etc…or just use the system level, and implement it correctly. Most are implemented well now. There’s always a trade off and compromise with DTM and gaming. When it comes to none gaming, and using it in FMM, where the algorithm is more accurate, I get that too…but again, there’s trade off. Yeah, those highlights might be “brighter”….but they may have lost the detail, or the saturation it should. There’s a reason for this whole “HGiG” thing….you just also gotta know what you’re looking at, and what it should look like…a reference/hero display is always best. iPhones work great 👍 If you want to use DTM….the way to use it, is to first set the game/system up with HGiG first, and then switch to DTM after. Never set a system up with DTM enabled. You’re just fighting yourself at that point lol. Literally fighting yourself/TV.
@@ye-ROC No one ever said HDR was for dark rooms lol. The base purpose of HDR is to get less banding in colors so that you can boost highlight without destroying the rest of the image due to color compression. Being in a light or dark room doesn't change anything about this statement
Hey Villa Man, what device/splitter you use when comparing TVs, how do you split the signal from one source to two or more TVs? Im searching for a splitter that can provide 4K signal with HDR 10 and Dolby Vision to multiple TVs. What do you use? Thanks!
Congrats on new home! It's Beautiful! The side by side and game play was very revealing. They're both good. LG for accuracy is my leaning. Your video quality and reviews are always amazing!
Bro this is exactly what I was looking for. The samsung colors are way more vibrant. Still. I MUCH prefer the depth, subtle lighting details, and crispness of the LG.
I'm pretty certain you can't display HDR in mirror mode with Windows (or any OS as I believe it is a hardware limitation). I've always had to use two PC's to do an HDR comparison though I think you can also use an HDR splitter as well.
Was a good comparison the Samsung odyssey g8 and neo g8 vs s95c in picture colour , and see if the less input lag of that monitors can be a great choose for buy the g8 or neo g8 or s95c , anyway i have xbox serie x
Hey man i have a quick question i have small budget can i buy lg c2 55 inch now it's end of 2023 is it a good decision or wait for next year then buy c3 in discount can you help me for make a right decision
I have the 77S90C and it does perfectly fine in my living room next to a big window, and in the evening/night the highlights are blinding, especially when gaming. My main complaint though is the low bit rate content clarity vs my LG C1 I upgraded from.
I like the colours that QD-OLED can produce but side by side here the G3 is just an overall more dynamic picture. During the Overwatch gameplay it looks incredibly dull on the 95C vs the G3. Obviously if you were viewing the 95C alone it probably still looks great, but having the inky blacks and the ability to get that bright on the G3, I’d take that all day. The Cyberpunk gameplay does turn things around a bit though, when you see those reds and yellows so vibrant on the UI.
VRR not working in Overwatch could be because your fps was outside the tv's refresh range. That's the reason the Nvidia control panel asks you to also force Vsync in the global settings so that no application can get over the refresh range of the display and introduce tearing which would also explain why VRR started to work in Cyberpunk since it was within he refresh range. That said without having both tv's fully calibrated (which I assume is the case since you only said the eco mode is turned off which any sane person should do buying such an expensive tv, and the max brightness part) I'm not sure what conclusion to draw from this. Also did you check that none of the tv's turned on any kind of "enhancements" like higher shadow brightness after it switched to game mode? What about dynamic tone mapping? Games don't play well with that. My guess on why the G3 looks less vibrant (besides Samsungs bad out of the box Delta E values) is because the white subpixel is multiple times brighter than the individual RGB subpixels, which the S95C doesn't have, technically making the image less colour accurate when both are calibrated. So from that perspective it's the game devs that made everything oversaturated. That said I generally prefer more muted tones in games and I'm not a fan of cartoony artstyles. You could try turning down digital vibrance in the Nvidia control panel and mess with the gamma settings. I'm sure you could get pretty close to the G3. Cheers!
If you want the vibrant colors of the S95 just up the color volume a tad bit that gives more pop for ppl that don’t like realistic colors and like the cartoony effect
I got the G3 because of the 5 year burn in warranty also it still a great picture as well, I like the Samsung s95c it was really nice honestly but I feel QD Oled is still not totally proven longevity
@@ThaVillaMan I've watched it a couple times now, and it looks like the gameplay with Cyberpunk in SDR is brighter on the Samsung S95C. Is that what you witnessed in person or is that a trick of the camera?
sony invent nothing. sony buy to samsung and...lg. lg invent meta panel and work fine. lg make woled frome long time ago, not sony. lg make theire chipset, not sony (and its the reason why lg have 4 hdmi 2.1 until 2019, with vrr and gsync from 2019 too etc... when sony give laaaater the 2.1 and later vrr, and again only 2 hdmi not 4. and sony promise and lie a lot for their "ps5 ready" tvs around 2021 when lg was "ready" before ps5 exist, long time before
This video is a battle of settings not the tv's..... looks like DTM is on the G3 which is why it is brighter & S95c is on HGIG & the nit slider wasnt adjusted on overwatch. Resulting in no highlights of the S95c and washed out colors of the G3. This is not a real representation of either tv's performance unfortunately.
I don’t get the obsession with brightness on TV’s now, because they’re definitely bright enough on the S95C, A95L and the G3. Do we have to get to the point where we need to wear sunglasses?….😂
To me, the Samsung's saturation makes the image look like it has a tacky HDR color filter being applied. The LG looks a little washed out when put side by side with the Samsung but in actual use its what I'd expect a balanced, reference-level image to be close to. The LG vs the Samsung to me is sort of like the difference between using a balanced pair of studio headphones vs headphones tuned heavy towards the lower end frequencies. The Samsung is using cheap tricks to catch people's eye, but it's overall hurting the image quality.
@@blueisthecolor3463 nothing wrong with more or better colors, but I personally am most concerned about color accuracy being on point. Like I want to see what the content creator intended the image to be. The Samsung seems to be adding an artificial “pop” of color and that looks garish to me. Just a personal preference.
@@YoctoYotta Like reputable hdtvtest said, how do you judge the color accuracy of a display whose capabilities exceeds that of reference monitors in certain scenarios. Sure Samsung adds pop but qdoled has been own advantages over lg in colours.
4:30 prefering colors is not personal preference. 1 is accurate, the other isnt. accurate because it can display the called for directors intent color, or 2) inaccurate because it cant perform the colors being asked for it to do. Edit: at 10 minutes, you tell me the delta error is 29. lmao cmon man, thats obviously not personal preference than. the samsung is clearly not tracking eotf, colors are out of whack, its just a disaster of a presentation.
Samsung definitely has brighter colors because of the quantum dots. Lg has slightly brighter whites. LGs colors can look washed out compared to samsung.
That's why the title of the video already gave me a hint that his perspective was going to be counter to all the other content comparison samsung & LG tvs for gaming. Gaming features wise, the Samsung trumps the LG, it has Xbox GamePass.
Then what are the correct settings for Samsung? I feel a fair comparison would be out the box no modifications which most people will use the TV in this way. And Samsung gives free Xbox Gamepass?
I have a 55-inch lg c1, and yes, it's awesome but most people are gaming set to 50-55 in color. I@ernestohernandez9370 long run the lg is better but that's only because we are talking about the cookie cutter QD-OLED tv by samsung and not sony. I push my colors up to 64 on my c1. I think QD-OLED is much better overall in color.
Great overview but DO NOT buy the S95C for gaming. I have had one for about two week and getting constant black screen drop outs using the one connect box. It is fairly widely reported too but didn't know before I bought the TV
I saw one person called samsung and had them reset the HDMI ports remotely and it fixed the issue. I'd go with the 2nd gen panels on the s90c personally thoug.
Because of the One Connect Box. An issue that is well known for many years on OCB Models with Samsung TVs. Better go for S90C. But Samsung in general is a lottery in terms of bugs and glitches on top. i would go 1. Panasonic 2. Sony 3. LG and last Samsung (but only for a very good price and without OCB!)
If you use devices on HDMI Port i would go for S90C. S95C is a risk with OCB. If you go 77, it will also have the new panel. Differences are not that big. But to be fair. If you buy for movies i would go for a Sony or Panasonic OLED. Better in terms of accuracy. @@conraddevera
For the value the S90C in 77 inch is the way to go. The 77inch will definitely have the 2nd gen QD OLED Panel and honestly the only difference in the S95C is the one connect box.
Thats weird, so ive seen videos where they say the Samsung is brighter and has better gaming details and now people are saying LG is better at that soo idk whos telling the truth lol
@@creativelens23 ya thats what bothers me about reviews like these is the tv settings are no where to be found in the review. With the right settings one tv could easily out beat the other.
Better wait LG G4 OLED coming with 2gen MLA OLED panels with 144hz panel and 3000nits brightness and new powerful alpha 10 processor with neural engine technology
To fix the screen tearing, turn on g-sync in the control panel and then turn off v-sync in both the Nvidia control panel and the game settings. Make sure the TV is set to 120HZ and download RTSS and set the global frame rate limit in RTSS to 117FPS and set in game frame limit to off or as high as the game allows The Samsung can go up to 144HZ so set the RTSS global frame limit to 141FPS if the Samsung TV is set to 144HZ
@@manyakgaming1346turn on v-sync in the Nvidia control panel, you can also limit your frame rates there. Turn off in game v-sync, on in Nvidia control panel.
Tbh I disagree and so all others who are tech heads, Samsung has way more accuracy in their images, looking at the G3 it looks washed out and the colours look dry, like it’s got a white film over it, where as the Samsung seems like it’s being true HD, and looking at RTINGS, comparison even they say the HDR on Samsung is unmatched, and the colour accuracy is way better
this guy is a noob. also gamemode is to dim. set lg g3 to cinema mode. at all picture modes you have the gameoptimizer. so you can turn on allm vrr etc. i have the lg g3 77 inch. a fucking great tv. movies are awesome. it looks also 3d. seen maverick in dolby vision. so great. spiderman 2 awesome. so much better then my lg cx from 3 years ago
@@TheGhostofMississippiim curious about game mode brightness level between the two, since i heard G3 takes a hit in game mode with much less brightness and muted colors. Is that really the case? Im leaning toward G3 for next purchase but thats the only thing holding me back, i already have an S95B and dont want another samsung for my other tv since i like having dolby vision too 😅 G3 would replace my old LG C9
Omg the LG looks so dull and washed out compared to the Samsung which has far richer colours. I own a LG C9 but i wont be buying any LG oleds again due to them looking so washed out.
So are you going to be doing a actual review on the TVs or just compare them as gaming monitors??? 🤔 No home theater love there! Very disappointed with you man, you've lost an old subscriber as you've lost your ways on actual tv/cinema review.. Not that it matters to you 😒
Samsung are not known for being more natural regarding colours, that goes mainly to Sony then LG. Samsung are known to oversaturate colours on their TV’s, it’s a well known fact. Not saying the Samsung is a bad TV, but normally the colour saturation needs to be toned down.
Lmao WHAT So you have a 4090 and using Overwatch for your benchmarks?? lol and did you even mention the Samsung is 144hz and lg is STILL 120hz WTH V-man brah smh Samsung is the better gaming tv period this year and use better newer games that are intense like um, The Calisto protocol , Alan Wake 2 I mean damn this vid is CAP 🧢 sorry this ant it
The Samsung colors seem to pop. I have an S95B and I have not upgraded the firmware from firmware version 1310. I’m happy with my television and think it has a beautiful picture. Thanks for all of your efforts.
Stuck in the glory days. Nice
I'm on 1310 as well bro, s95b amazing tv.
Why not updated?
I got the maximum brightness on my S95B back with service menu mods. Its really bright and has perfect colours. I dont believe G3 can beat that untill I see it with my own eyes
@@stanmarsh8796 you'll just get burn ins in less than 2 weeks lol, rtings has proven factory settings on the S95B already gives burn ins in less than a year so if you've boosted it good luck
I did a similar test of both TVs and went with the G3. Both are great TVs but the G3 fit my personal preferences better.
I just pooped
I ended up getting a C3 65" recently, and I was surprised at how well it does in a bright room. I was expecting sub-par performance based on my previous CX, but no. The C3 is very bright, and the colors are much more punchy.
OLED brightness has improved consistently since the CX, so I can def see that happening
I still love my CX!
Yo!!! I came from my CX to a C2. And I’m right there with you. The CX let me down a good bit in quite a few areas. The C2….just makes me happy, and I don’t have much to gripe about.
I was NOT expecting any big brightness advancement in the C2…I was shocked tho. Its noticeably brighter in every aspect. It’s just such a more capable panel, with some actual head room. Where the CX wasn’t nearly as capable, and had virtually no head room. It was being pushed to its absolute limits, and the ABL behavior, and often occurring image retention really showed it. Along with the colors being so washed at those higher luminance levels. No amount of calibration could fix the gripes I had with my CX. Near black was also rather poor on the CX, especially low-bit rate and chrominance overshoot artifacts. The C2 addresses virtually all of that, and shadow detail is this TV’s strong suite.
Please don’t get me wrong…I love the CX and it was my introduction to OLED, and I’ll never go back to transmissive tech lol. But it did leave a lot to be desired, and did fall short in some aspects, even to my TCL r625, which was a fraction of the cost, and the TV it replaced. I miss that set tbh. Just bc how far above it’s price point it punched, and how damn accurate it was for a QLED.
I always heard the C9 was even brighter than the CX, i still have my C9 55 inch in bedroom for 4 yrs now, and I’m dying to replace with G3 or Sony A95K or L, since I have S95B in basement. Still love C9 but brightness is lacking by todays standards. I would go G3 but game mode I hear isn’t too great..plus I’m curious about Sony QDOLED with the much hyped processing I hear about…
@@ThaVillaMan you just forgot c1, was equal cx but you are right.
i think c2 and c3 are equal g1, g2 brighter and g3 brighter than g2
Is this done with HGiG or DTM enabled on the G3? To me, it looks like DTM, and it is blowing out the image a bit. Basically, the APL looks greater than it should, and this is why I constantly employ ppl to use HGiG over DTM. I get people like the brightness of DTM, but it hurts overall image quality. Raises mids too much, while sacrificing too much detail in the highlights. Plus, HDR is for dark viewing conditions, and that’s FACT! DTM has come a long vs the way it use to behave, but it’s still trying to tone map static content, and errors are made, especially with LG’s implementation.
I’m also curious on the S95C’s tone mapping settings. Is it game HDR/static? It seems like the Samsung is tracking closer to reference/PQ EOTF.
Regardless, both of these are absolutely amazing! For me tho, I’m hanging onto my C2 for another year or two. It still puts a big smile on my face. Truly, I’m just looking for QDO to keep maturing, and get even brighter full field and peak, with less ABL.
Speaking of the shadow detail aspect…this is where LG made HUGE strides. Even just coming from a CX to a C2, both fully calibrated…the C2 handles near black so well compared to my old CX. It’s an area I truly appreciate, especially as a HDR fanatic.
PS…did you take the dE’s yourself, or just from Rtings? Bc the LG’s are NOT ACCURATE in game mode. Not in the least, out of the box. They use a cold white point, and DTM is enabled. It’s easy to get very accurate, but it’s nowhere near accurate. The Samsung’s having a dE of over 20 is not the true story either….they’re also very accurate when set up correctly in game mode. The color space bug is the biggest issue I have with Samsung, and I want a fully working CMS, with correct color space conversion/mapping.
Before I bow out….BRING BACK HDR videos bro!!!! This SDR just ain’t it lol. Still looks good, but nothing like the old HDR uploaded videos.
Hgig vs dtm is really about preference. Few games I like hgig, but sometimes it feels like highlights just not bright enough I I end up going with dtm
@@theelusivememe1772 That’s your prerogative, and sometimes I like DTM too. Rare tho…It has entirely to many compromises. Unless my room is too bright, and I’m compensating. But I’m doing it technically “wrong” then. HDR is not for bright environments..period, end of story. And if a game looks as if it “needs it”…that tells me the HDR was done poorly.
I wasn’t asking about your preference tbh lol. No offense. I was asking Villaman if DTM was enabled on the LG, bc it seems to me that it is, and it’s boosting EOTF and the entire APL, thus hurting colors and color volume. Brighter doesn’t just equate to “better”, in all scenarios. It’s nice, but there’s limitations, and only a certain set brightness/APL for a game/film. There are standards…
HGiG doesn’t need “support” either. All HGiG is, is a way to disable tone mapping, in order to have a 1:1 map to the display actual capabilities. A hard clip essentially. To avoid double tone mapping, or having DTM mess up, which will always happen, even with the best tone mapping. All HGiG needs is a correction working slider, to set peak brightness, paper white, black point, etc…or just use the system level, and implement it correctly. Most are implemented well now.
There’s always a trade off and compromise with DTM and gaming. When it comes to none gaming, and using it in FMM, where the algorithm is more accurate, I get that too…but again, there’s trade off. Yeah, those highlights might be “brighter”….but they may have lost the detail, or the saturation it should. There’s a reason for this whole “HGiG” thing….you just also gotta know what you’re looking at, and what it should look like…a reference/hero display is always best. iPhones work great 👍
If you want to use DTM….the way to use it, is to first set the game/system up with HGiG first, and then switch to DTM after. Never set a system up with DTM enabled. You’re just fighting yourself at that point lol. Literally fighting yourself/TV.
@@ye-ROC No one ever said HDR was for dark rooms lol. The base purpose of HDR is to get less banding in colors so that you can boost highlight without destroying the rest of the image due to color compression. Being in a light or dark room doesn't change anything about this statement
Something's off with your s95c settings my s95b is brighter, you can tell because the highlightsbare accentuating properly, theyre being muted
Maybe it'd the black level set incorrectly in tandem with full or limited hdmi
Ya 'tech with kg's' videos show the samsung way outclasses the g3 in his gaming and movie test. Somethings off here.
Hey Villa Man, what device/splitter you use when comparing TVs, how do you split the signal from one source to two or more TVs? Im searching for a splitter that can provide 4K signal with HDR 10 and Dolby Vision to multiple TVs. What do you use? Thanks!
Normally I’d use a receiver with 2 monitor outputs. For PC gaming the graphics card has multiple outputs
@@ThaVillaMan thanks for the reply, what receiver do you use? In the Denon X2600H they say that the ouput #2 would not output Dolby Vision
Congrats on new home! It's Beautiful! The side by side and game play was very revealing. They're both good. LG for accuracy is my leaning. Your video quality and reviews are always amazing!
The 77 inch side makes a difference with light output vs 65 inch sizes for sure. It’s actually noticeable full field
Bro this is exactly what I was looking for. The samsung colors are way more vibrant. Still. I MUCH prefer the depth, subtle lighting details, and crispness of the LG.
I'm pretty certain you can't display HDR in mirror mode with Windows (or any OS as I believe it is a hardware limitation). I've always had to use two PC's to do an HDR comparison though I think you can also use an HDR splitter as well.
Hi great comparison. G3 and s90c same price go with which? Subscribed!
Was a good comparison the Samsung odyssey g8 and neo g8 vs s95c in picture colour , and see if the less input lag of that monitors can be a great choose for buy the g8 or neo g8 or s95c , anyway i have xbox serie x
Hey man i have a quick question i have small budget can i buy lg c2 55 inch now it's end of 2023 is it a good decision or wait for next year then buy c3 in discount can you help me for make a right decision
I have the C2 and I love it. However I would go with the c3 if I didn’t already have the c2.
@@Enlightmentism ohh nice
Hey man off topic but, any chance you can hook up Spiderman 2 to the trinnov? I'm curious to see the Atmos viewer. I think it has a native Atmos mix
I actually can’t. My home theater is in pieces right now and will be for a while
So which is more accurate? The muted colors of the lg or the saturated colors of the Samsung?
I mentioned in the video that the color accuracy in game mode was better on the LG
@@ThaVillaMan thank you
Love your videos Mr Villaman. Please advise if you would steer me away from mini leds now these oleds are so bright. I am in a bright room though...
I have the 77S90C and it does perfectly fine in my living room next to a big window, and in the evening/night the highlights are blinding, especially when gaming. My main complaint though is the low bit rate content clarity vs my LG C1 I upgraded from.
I like the colours that QD-OLED can produce but side by side here the G3 is just an overall more dynamic picture. During the Overwatch gameplay it looks incredibly dull on the 95C vs the G3. Obviously if you were viewing the 95C alone it probably still looks great, but having the inky blacks and the ability to get that bright on the G3, I’d take that all day.
The Cyberpunk gameplay does turn things around a bit though, when you see those reds and yellows so vibrant on the UI.
if the price of s95c is as cheap as s90c.. would you guys go for just the s90 to avoid the issues from the one connect box despite the cheaper price?
Off course
What about s95c dropouts?
Do a video review of the song S95L oled tv where you show overwatch gameplay
congratulations on your new home 🥳🥂
Thank you!
VRR not working in Overwatch could be because your fps was outside the tv's refresh range. That's the reason the Nvidia control panel asks you to also force Vsync in the global settings so that no application can get over the refresh range of the display and introduce tearing which would also explain why VRR started to work in Cyberpunk since it was within he refresh range. That said without having both tv's fully calibrated (which I assume is the case since you only said the eco mode is turned off which any sane person should do buying such an expensive tv, and the max brightness part) I'm not sure what conclusion to draw from this. Also did you check that none of the tv's turned on any kind of "enhancements" like higher shadow brightness after it switched to game mode? What about dynamic tone mapping? Games don't play well with that.
My guess on why the G3 looks less vibrant (besides Samsungs bad out of the box Delta E values) is because the white subpixel is multiple times brighter than the individual RGB subpixels, which the S95C doesn't have, technically making the image less colour accurate when both are calibrated. So from that perspective it's the game devs that made everything oversaturated. That said I generally prefer more muted tones in games and I'm not a fan of cartoony artstyles. You could try turning down digital vibrance in the Nvidia control panel and mess with the gamma settings. I'm sure you could get pretty close to the G3. Cheers!
LG G3 just has just terrible Colours in Gaming Mode. Thats a fact. The Samsung is doing it right.
On s95c the picture looks vivid and clean
On the G3 washed out color and not that sharp
Definitely, the G3 is the third option for gaming tv for me
@LOUDMOUTHBUGGER I don't have any disconnection
S95c is the best gaming tv
They look washed out because of the camera... Lol, typical reaction from someone not listening the intro
If you want the vibrant colors of the S95 just up the color volume a tad bit that gives more pop for ppl that don’t like realistic colors and like the cartoony effect
Nothing cartoony about having better colors.
I got the G3 because of the 5 year burn in warranty also it still a great picture as well, I like the Samsung s95c it was really nice honestly but I feel QD Oled is still not totally proven longevity
Which TV gets brighter in SDR Game mode?
2nd half of the video. They’re in SDR
@@ThaVillaMan I've watched it a couple times now, and it looks like the gameplay with Cyberpunk in SDR is brighter on the Samsung S95C. Is that what you witnessed in person or is that a trick of the camera?
LGs lineup can’t beat the technology in Samsungs and Sonys lineup
They've maxed out WOLED with MLA. LGs processing has really jumped up, they're holding themselves back with WOLED.
Can’t wait to see where they go from here
totally different. mla is extremly interesting technology.
qdoled too but a bit too youg
You do know Sony buys panels from LG right?
sony invent nothing.
sony buy to samsung and...lg.
lg invent meta panel and work fine.
lg make woled frome long time ago, not sony.
lg make theire chipset, not sony (and its the reason why lg have 4 hdmi 2.1 until 2019, with vrr and gsync from 2019 too etc... when sony give laaaater the 2.1 and later vrr, and again only 2 hdmi not 4.
and sony promise and lie a lot for their "ps5 ready" tvs around 2021 when lg was "ready" before ps5 exist, long time before
This video is a battle of settings not the tv's..... looks like DTM is on the G3 which is why it is brighter & S95c is on HGIG & the nit slider wasnt adjusted on overwatch. Resulting in no highlights of the S95c and washed out colors of the G3. This is not a real representation of either tv's performance unfortunately.
I don’t get the obsession with brightness on TV’s now, because they’re definitely bright enough on the S95C, A95L and the G3. Do we have to get to the point where we need to wear sunglasses?….😂
To me, the Samsung's saturation makes the image look like it has a tacky HDR color filter being applied. The LG looks a little washed out when put side by side with the Samsung but in actual use its what I'd expect a balanced, reference-level image to be close to. The LG vs the Samsung to me is sort of like the difference between using a balanced pair of studio headphones vs headphones tuned heavy towards the lower end frequencies. The Samsung is using cheap tricks to catch people's eye, but it's overall hurting the image quality.
So having better color volume and more colors is a disadvantage now?
@@blueisthecolor3463 nothing wrong with more or better colors, but I personally am most concerned about color accuracy being on point. Like I want to see what the content creator intended the image to be. The Samsung seems to be adding an artificial “pop” of color and that looks garish to me. Just a personal preference.
@@YoctoYotta Like reputable hdtvtest said, how do you judge the color accuracy of a display whose capabilities exceeds that of reference monitors in certain scenarios. Sure Samsung adds pop but qdoled has been own advantages over lg in colours.
the g3 looks washed out cause it has a polarizer. samsung has no polarizer and quantum dots
Nah, it's Samsung's oversaturated cartoonish and also dark colors.@@blueisthecolor3463
What kind of PC is that?
he did a build video on it here, ruclips.net/video/saZhjj2HE_w/видео.htmlsi=nymnklKgfMFNmWYD
What about colour banding? Im very curious about a good test between these 2..
Picture comparison will compare those
Lol you keep saying removing filter but the filter is not removed but replaced by quantum dot it's just a different breed of filter
4:30 prefering colors is not personal preference. 1 is accurate, the other isnt. accurate because it can display the called for directors intent color, or 2) inaccurate because it cant perform the colors being asked for it to do.
Edit: at 10 minutes, you tell me the delta error is 29. lmao cmon man, thats obviously not personal preference than. the samsung is clearly not tracking eotf, colors are out of whack, its just a disaster of a presentation.
What you’re saying isn’t wrong, but as the presenter I have to consider other perspectives
@@ThaVillaManoh well game developers you heard that he doesn't appreciate your work
Cope more, if you like ugly washed out colors why even buy tvs like this? I can get this on a 15 year old tv.
Samsung definitely has brighter colors because of the quantum dots.
Lg has slightly brighter whites.
LGs colors can look washed out compared to samsung.
In what world?
@@trell1011 In every world, just look at the rtings score..
Some people like dull washed out color
@@trell1011quantum dot bruh
powerfull colors but not better colors. all samsung i bought have probleme with color, any setup you can do
Can you compare the a80l and s95c?
I would have went the samsung route but tizen os sucks... web os is wayy better
Put the G3 on vivid in game
Yo VILLA😊
Not sure what going on with your settings but the Samsung destroys lg in gaming in every review! Something looks really off
That's why the title of the video already gave me a hint that his perspective was going to be counter to all the other content comparison samsung & LG tvs for gaming.
Gaming features wise, the Samsung trumps the LG, it has Xbox GamePass.
Then what are the correct settings for Samsung? I feel a fair comparison would be out the box no modifications which most people will use the TV in this way. And Samsung gives free Xbox Gamepass?
@Diminish12 not free. But gives yiu the access to use Ir directly from your home screen
He probably left "Contrast Enhancer" on
I think destroys is a bit of a stretch, it’s a bit brighter and more saturated and does 144hz which is hardly noticeable from 120hz
This guy camera quality is so crispy
Is the c3 a huge downgrade from the g3 when it comes to gaming?
no absolutely not the g3 might be better but not that much better the c3 is still very good. I have a 77 C1 and it's great for gaming.
I have a 55-inch lg c1, and yes, it's awesome but most people are gaming set to 50-55 in color. I@ernestohernandez9370 long run the lg is better but that's only because we are talking about the cookie cutter QD-OLED tv by samsung and not sony. I push my colors up to 64 on my c1. I think QD-OLED is much better overall in color.
Lg is more natural, the Samsung is more vivid and artificial onlike their phones …
the g3 the Samsung looks too dark
Great overview but DO NOT buy the S95C for gaming. I have had one for about two week and getting constant black screen drop outs using the one connect box. It is fairly widely reported too but didn't know before I bought the TV
I saw one person called samsung and had them reset the HDMI ports remotely and it fixed the issue. I'd go with the 2nd gen panels on the s90c personally thoug.
Because of the One Connect Box. An issue that is well known for many years on OCB Models with Samsung TVs. Better go for S90C. But Samsung in general is a lottery in terms of bugs and glitches on top. i would go 1. Panasonic 2. Sony 3. LG and last Samsung (but only for a very good price and without OCB!)
question guys, if the price is the same (s95 is as cheap as s90). would you go for the s90 if its mostly movies and Netflix (I use my cx for gaming)
If you use devices on HDMI Port i would go for S90C. S95C is a risk with OCB. If you go 77, it will also have the new panel. Differences are not that big. But to be fair. If you buy for movies i would go for a Sony or Panasonic OLED. Better in terms of accuracy. @@conraddevera
@@conraddevera id go with the s90c, just make sure you’re getting the v2 panel.
Samsung is 144hz lg is 120hz.. that could be the reason for the input lag difference
For the value the S90C in 77 inch is the way to go. The 77inch will definitely have the 2nd gen QD OLED Panel and honestly the only difference in the S95C is the one connect box.
Intel 7800X processor???
Intel doesn't make that. AMD does.
Hahaha well that sounds like I got a bit mixed up
Thats weird, so ive seen videos where they say the Samsung is brighter and has better gaming details and now people are saying LG is better at that soo idk whos telling the truth lol
maybe he had the g3 with dynamic tonemapping enabled. And the s95c with the static tonemapping. static is like hgig on the lg tvs
Ya all of 'tech with KGs' videos show the samsung and sonys tvs way outclassing LG's lineup ESPECIALLY in gaming. Kind of odd.
@@creativelens23 ya thats what bothers me about reviews like these is the tv settings are no where to be found in the review. With the right settings one tv could easily out beat the other.
@@7ngel yeah thats true . In my opinion every tv comparison should be in the most accurate mode.
I like saturated colors of s95c, but i choose g3 for dolby vision and heatsink!!!
The S95C also has a Graphite heatsink.
Better wait LG G4 OLED coming with 2gen MLA OLED panels with 144hz panel and 3000nits brightness and new powerful alpha 10 processor with neural engine technology
you need a reference monitor
LG C3 77in on sale for $2499
To fix the screen tearing, turn on g-sync in the control panel and then turn off v-sync in both the Nvidia control panel and the game settings. Make sure the TV is set to 120HZ and download RTSS and set the global frame rate limit in RTSS to 117FPS and set in game frame limit to off or as high as the game allows
The Samsung can go up to 144HZ so set the RTSS global frame limit to 141FPS if the Samsung TV is set to 144HZ
Vsync should be off with g sync no?
@@manyakgaming1346turn on v-sync in the Nvidia control panel, you can also limit your frame rates there. Turn off in game v-sync, on in Nvidia control panel.
@@manyakgaming1346it should be off in game on in the control panel.
@@STALEYALIVEAICRTSS is better for limiting frames than the control panel. You’re right about v sync on tho but only in the control panel
you lost all credibility when you said your PC has an "intel 7800x cpu" ???? that shit doesn't exist fam
Brooooo I was like TF is this man talking about lmfao this is by far the bs review iv ever seen 😂😂😂😂
So he’s clearly made a mistake with one thing, so that means he loses all credibility, seriously bro?…..
Which tv have better speaker?
Neither, honestly you should invest in a great sound system, it’s worth the money
Tbh I disagree and so all others who are tech heads, Samsung has way more accuracy in their images, looking at the G3 it looks washed out and the colours look dry, like it’s got a white film over it, where as the Samsung seems like it’s being true HD, and looking at RTINGS, comparison even they say the HDR on Samsung is unmatched, and the colour accuracy is way better
Lg g3❤
I’m an accurate creators intend so G3 wins for me personally
this guy is a noob. also gamemode is to dim. set lg g3 to cinema mode. at all picture modes you have the gameoptimizer. so you can turn on allm vrr etc. i have the lg g3 77 inch. a fucking great tv. movies are awesome. it looks also 3d. seen maverick in dolby vision. so great. spiderman 2 awesome. so much better then my lg cx from 3 years ago
Lg is a great oled, but it can’t compete with the qd oled panel
Love my C2 55ich tv
LG looks way better to me.
Other reviews show the samsung way outclassing the G3, something might be off with his set.
In person Samsung
G3 upscale and had more 3D pop. I have both and the G3 is better for movie, tv and streaming content and the Samsung is better for gaming.
@@TheGhostofMississippiim curious about game mode brightness level between the two, since i heard G3 takes a hit in game mode with much less brightness and muted colors. Is that really the case? Im leaning toward G3 for next purchase but thats the only thing holding me back, i already have an S95B and dont want another samsung for my other tv since i like having dolby vision too 😅 G3 would replace my old LG C9
G3 is looking brighter in game mode how??
G3 winner winner
Samsung! Lg too blue!
colours look so much better on samsung imo. my mind is made up
Omg the LG looks so dull and washed out compared to the Samsung which has far richer colours.
I own a LG C9 but i wont be buying any LG oleds again due to them looking so washed out.
The S95C completely slaughtered the G3.
So are you going to be doing a actual review on the TVs or just compare them as gaming monitors??? 🤔
No home theater love there!
Very disappointed with you man, you've lost an old subscriber as you've lost your ways on actual tv/cinema review.. Not that it matters to you 😒
S95C more natural than g3
Samsung are not known for being more natural regarding colours, that goes mainly to Sony then LG. Samsung are known to oversaturate colours on their TV’s, it’s a well known fact. Not saying the Samsung is a bad TV, but normally the colour saturation needs to be toned down.
Lmao WHAT
So you have a 4090 and using Overwatch for your benchmarks?? lol and did you even mention the Samsung is 144hz and lg is STILL 120hz WTH V-man brah smh Samsung is the better gaming tv period this year and use better newer games that are intense like um, The Calisto protocol , Alan Wake 2 I mean damn this vid is CAP 🧢 sorry this ant it