The smoke you seen was caused by oil blow-by that is dumped in the PCV ,it is normal at higher RPM you should invest in a catch can to help maintain from build up
SickStang615 he would also see this if for example he was to cold start the car and then immediately turn it off. Then if he started it back up 5 minutes after that it will shoot blue smoke out the exhaust. Does the catch can prevent that? Do you need 1 or 2? I thought I read somewhere before that you only need 1 but I can’t remember if it’s the passenger side or the driver side you need.
@@newfie-dean5803 If he cold starts then shuts down and proceeds to reignite it will be a rich fuel mixture and causes cloudy smoke , you can run 2 catch cans but usually one is enough for N/A applications
SickStang615 if you do what I said you will get a big puff of blue smoke out the tail pipes. I have a 2006 Mustang GT that will do that ever since new and I was reading about that happening to all the 3V engines. First time it happened to me I was like WTF. If you start it and let it run a few minutes it will not do that at all. It’s only if you start it cold and for just a few seconds.
+1 on the catch can! Driver's side is the main side to install it as this is the return side for the "PCV" system (enters engine downstream of the throttle body plates directly into intake)…..I'm using an ADD W-1 V3 series catch can on my '09 GT & it works wonders. I would also recommend that, if you're still using 5W-20 motor oil in a 3V, you upgrade it to 5W-30 or higher multi vis full synthetic motor oil as the higher viscosity oils are far more resistant to foaming when being slung around off moving engine parts as air is being drawn thru the engine so less oil mist to get trapped in it. Been there, done that. I had my GT custom tuned on dyno back in September...…...tuner made a total of 6 hits to get her to final numbers & my 3V never blew any smoke out exhausts after WOT, blue or otherwise......she has 144,500+ mi on the clock to boot (I do have a video recording of 1 of the hits that verifies this). Checked my CC afterwards.....never touched the dipstick then & hasn't touched it yet to this day (end of dipstick is 3\16" above bottom of CC) & I run Motorcraft Full Synthetic 5W-30 motor oil in it...…..best thing you can do to help protect the VCT cam phasers, improve VCT operational precision as well as maintain good timing chain tensioning & overall engine oil pressure is to use a higher vis motor oil, especially as the miles build up on them.
Solid numbers! Been waiting months for this video. Peak power at ~6,400 rpm, wow! That dip between 4,500 - 5,000 rpm is a lil wonky, custom tune would probably smooth that out and gain ya another ~10 all around (yeah yeah not worth 800 bones), but defs good numbers for an email tune and Hot Rod camshafts. Looking forward to some centrifugal bidness.
Definitely get those two things checked out before you push the car with boost. Thanks for all the great vids! Makes me enjoy modding my Stang just that much more.
I love your car and respect the passion, you're definitely one of my favorite 3v's. But to put all this money and work into a 3v just to be almost the same crank hp as a stock S197 5.0, would hurt my soul.
Man that's barely any money, the cost of his actual performance mods is very small. If you do the work yourself to install them, it's miniscule. I'm at the same spot with my 08 s197, Lito tune and all and I'm only 6gs in including the initial cost of car. You can spend 15k on a 5.0 to get you 360rwhp if you want, but after I drop 10k into my 08 4.6 I'll be at 800rwhp and just 16k invested. Built not bought.
Kenny G where do stop because no matter what performance car you buy especially on a budget it's gonna be a faster newer car on the horizon soooooo where and when do you stop in my case I have a 3V I just like to mod it I don't care about the hp
For me, as a 3v owner, it would be worth it because I think the 3V s197 is the best looking Mustang since the 69 Fastback. I respect the Coyote but I just don’t like the look as much. Of course this is all dependent on personal taste, some guys like the fox bodies the best for example. Plus I’m not dumb enough to street race so as long as it’s fast enough to be a fun drive it’s all gravy.
It’s still pretty cool because he will surprise lots of Coyote owners and the 3V sounds better than the Coyote engine. And it’s a good project car to slow the capability.of that engine. And this body style looks great, it looks better than the 10-14, it has a true retro look with the best throwback styling to the late 60s Mustangs. I love the stance of these cars with nice wheels and wide tires.
Yea that smoke I would look into that for Sure it shouldn't smoke like that brother ..Please get a oil catch can like a JLT cause if not oil go's right back in your intake which is not good got one for my 3v and my 02 WS6 and you would not believe the dirty oil in the catch can after every 3 ,000 miles.Please get one
man, seeing these numbers makes me realize how crazy it is that my stock engine 2v is making 280hp and 330trq with just cai, throttle body, long tubes and a dyno tune.
If you didn't deliver the horsepower you would still be selling solid platinum records on that sound your beautiful Sally makes. 400 to the crane is damn awesome Nate. Your car delivers a heck of a lot of muscle with those mods. This is a very exciting time for us Naterider Fans. As far as the smoke anytime you accelerate wide open throttle for that amount of pulls expect some smoke. It's no big deal.
Good numbers man. A lot of people forget that if you like that body style, why not build it?! I bought my 06 6 1/2 years ago for I think 12,000. I’d dump another 10k+ in mine over time no problem. Still would put me at 22k which is still what a lot of gen 1s go for.
Nate, first off please set that redline back down to 6400-6500. Stock valve springs are only good for 6800 and float past that. Also, it is NEVER a good idea to take these cars past 6500 unless your running phaser limiters or have them completely locked out. As for the smoke it is likely that you are burning oil due to its very slight bluish tint.
Nate, I'm glad to see that your engine is finally putting down the 340rwhp that I'd predicted. However the 15% drivetrain loss is a throwback to the 4-speed cars from the 1960s and is irrelevant to 5 or 6 speed manual transmission cars made in the last 20 years; it's more like 12% on the S197 3V GT. That said, 388 crank HP is still pretty respectable.
Honestly.. This car seems like a lot better buy than my ecoboost Lol.. I should of gotten one of these instead.. probably would of spent half as much and made twice the power plus get all the sweet V8 sounds.. heh.
Dude I have to tell u 1 thing that hoped in my head when I seen that stache u have.i was like DAMN he put his eyebrows on his lip lol.just messing with u dude.love the car and the mods.
Hell no. I didn't know BAMA SCT was the worst, I had good luck, but i just bought a 2010 GT back after 10 years and thanks for the info cause I would have stuck wit SCT. Vote with your wallets people!
Recently tuned my 3V Mustang through Lito - Going into Stage 2 with the build this Winter Planning to wrap the whole car, swap the hood to a 3" cowl, and dog in deeper to some performance mods I'm curious to see how it does in comparison when I dyno this summer... 🙂 Hoping my Brother finishes his 2JZ 240Z so we can meet up and make some crazy content
I'm bolt ons and cammed and I'm at 315 horse 323 ft tq from my 2005 and I built the tune myself I got CAI bbk throttle body frpp hot rod cams bbk shorty headers that is it
Sorry Nate your close but no cigar. Your making closer to 390. You take the 341 and times it by point 15, difference from crank to wheel is 12 to 15 percent. But thats is still very good.
Duwone Lashley Ah, but U didnt say "add 341 again". Only said "341 times .15" which would be 51.15. Always least amount of operations. Sorry, just a little math OCD. HaHa :-)
@@ytTaz480 Actually you wouldn't divide it by 0.85, you're close though. 1.15 and 0.85 are NOT inverses. Multiplying by 1.15 would be the same as dividing by (1/1.15), which equals to about 0.8696. Try the math and you'll see it leads to the same value. Happy maths!
That's just unburned fuel, exhaust gas and some oil coming out of the exhaust. That's going to happen on any car with no cats that is revving for extended periods of time. Not a big deal at all.
hallo i have a problem with my gt 2007 3v 4.6 manual transmission with sct tune custom by bbr company with jlt air filter i have a miss fire on high rpm if i install brisk silver spark ignition up to 450 horse power should the problem end and its necessary to install msd coil ignition with the spark plugs or the coil make no difference,,, & plz advice what is the best spark fits on my engine under ur group experience ?
Im in between buying a JLTs3 vs. Roush CAI, what are your thoughts with your JLT thus far, also is it worth the extra money to include tune vs no tune? Have you had any problems with smog because they are not CARB compliant for California? I have a 07 mustang GT...
I keep reading people questioning Nate on the money he has put in his car when there is S-197 with a 5.0 that you didn't have to spend money to achieve the same results. Have you ever thought it's fun to mod and see what you can gain on torque and horsepower? The first year the S-197 Gt got a 5.0 was 2010 and it's ugly in my humble opinion furthermore the 2005-2009 Mustang is the best looking in my opinion. I like my 2005 Mustang GT. I got it new as a surprise birthday present in November of 2004. I'm retired now and don't drive it that much but I love her. She has 107 thousand miles but she is mine. I have bolt on-s and have a CDC grill, removed the GT emblems, and the back spoiler is off and she is gorgeous. I enjoy the passion Nate has for his car because I can relate. Nothing against your Mustang but I thought maybe you would understand more why we mod slower cars. Lastly, if you haven't ever grown a mustache than you are lying. What's the big freaking deal? Maybe you don't have the balls to grow one. So you drive what you want to drive and let us 2005-2009 GT owners drive ours. If we all had the same car it would be a boring world, right?
I’m retired also and bought a pristine redfire 07 mustang GT premium with the red and black interior. I purchased it last year with only 36,000 miles for $15,000. I’ve put a few mods on it and it is always a big hit at the car shows. I grew up with the original mustangs and owned two 65’s and a 72 Mach 1. The 05-09 mustangs look more like the original and I agree with you. The models after have progressively gotten away from what a Mustang should look like.
Oil at higher rpms. I would invest in a catch can and your dyno results are off due to your ghost cam. I had the same issues when I was N/A and I messaged lito to delete ghost cam and the results were perfect and I actually made 10+ more hp
Hey did you and lito have to datalog alot to get the tune right. I've got the same build with mithathumpr cams tho. We can't get the tune 100% stuttering from 2k-3k rpms under load.
15% is not 0.85. Divide 1 by 1.15 and you'll get a different number than 0.85. The same is true with 20%. Decimals and fractions are weird like that. The inverse of 1.25 is 0.8, for instance. And the inverse of 0.75 is 1.33(repeating). Also, I can almost guarantee whatever cams you choose are sub-optimal. Look up David Vizard and basically redo your (or do any new) engine based on his expertise, particularly when it comes to headers and cams, but what he has to say on head work is equally useful, just less applicable since it's harder to custom order head work than it is to get custom ground cams or a set of headers that are close enough to correct (or at least useful) to what he would spec.
Been waiting for a while for this video. It was interesting how you pointed out how the Lito tune was a little wavy compared to the Bama tune. I wonder what it would have looked like if you had data logged with Bama. But any way thanks for posting all your progress!
Nat , I got a 2007 gt . I have mufflers. Thats it.. I was thinking to order nitrous , what are some bolt on's do I need. And what spark plugs thank you.
Brock Fijal nitrous is great for the 3v in terms of power but you risk blowing up your engine (like nate and jonathan harder) You need the colder spark plugs if you do run nitrous, and at the minimum, a tune.
Sports Car Connoisseur I understand the risk but I really want to go just a bit faster. Nate's gave me a list of things but this car is my everyday driver and sometimes I just want a little more speed you know to pass those Camaros. Do you think I need cams for the nitrous or should I just get underdrive pulleys, cold air intake, maybe a 62 mm throttle body, the plugs you mentioned, and nitrous. Do you think that would be a good combination or should I actually get cams for the car? Thank you guys for responding
Nate wait! I know boost is coming soon. (Super/turbo) but before you do that, I was looking around and came across some 4.6L 3v mustangs that can push a lot with some engine upgrades like the pistons, rods and headblock, I’m sure you looked into that already, but how about you upgrade those before the boost? Who knows maybe you’ll be seeing higher numbers than 500 since the engine would be able to handle a higher tune with the boost
@@solidstreetrunz3956 The Chinese made Getrag MT-82 transmission is well know for it's problems. Even the 2018's shift forks are defective. They have lock out's in third and fourth gear. There are videos on youtube of one that just happened to break while filming among many others demonstrating their problems. They almost got a complete recall in 2011, but Ford got out of it somehow. There are multiple lawsuits against Ford for these transmissions and theyhave caused multiple accidents from breaking while driving. Are you a completely uninformed moron? Do some research. Learn to read.
3644Darrell yeah there’s a lot of problems with people that want to boost their stock cars and expect everything else to hold up when they push they’re cars ... all you gotta do is change the clutch on those mt82s and they’re not that bad... go look a Alejandro Flores RUclips channel he knows these cars better than anyone on RUclips .. dumb fuck
@@solidstreetrunz3956 well dumbass, his car was the one whose transmission broke while he was making a video. Maybe you need to rewatch his channel some more. You have a real potty mouth for a girl
What math? Because boost pressure and hp dont really relate like that. Too many factors. 8 psi at 600cfm is gonna be different that 8psi at 800cfm.. there are too many factors to base hp on a psi???
Bruh you need a dyno tune itll help you out a ton more I get you want to do a budget build but if you really want to see the numbers and get the most get a dyno tune
Luis Santiago-Garcia A tuner on a dyno sees the same Information as a remote tuner when you data log. The only advantage is it’s a stationary road and it spits out a number at the end.
I would look into a catch can that vents to atmosphere especially if you’re going forced induction the check valve on the pcv system can fail (mine did) I bought a universal one on eBay it wasn’t one of the cheap ones it came with 10an lines and I tucked my catch can into my fender in a nice spot to be able to drain it while I do my oil changes I have a boosted Mach 1 I haven’t had any blow by but I did just build it (also the person who recommended I do this is the guy who tuned one of the fastest stick shift mustangs in the world the tt minion)
2011 5.0 is 412 crank 2013 5.0 is 420 crank 2015 5.0 is 435 crank 2018 5.0 is “460” crank even though it’s dynoed for way more power than that so they realistically make ~500 crank
I know you like to say catch phrases but seriously stop saying "full bolt on". Your car is not, you are missing heads and a driveshaft. I have similar mods and am making quite a bit more torque and horespower on a "trash" bama tune as you like to say. I'd have your engine looked at as that smoke might indicate rings that are bad and oil being burnt.
Also you are missing the intake manifold, those charge motion delete plates remove a bit of the restriction but the stock intake manifold is engineered differently and drops off in the upper rpm.
That stache added at least 100 hp
The smoke you seen was caused by oil blow-by that is dumped in the PCV ,it is normal at higher RPM you should invest in a catch can to help maintain from build up
Definitely I have been running a catch can on my 3v and it's a must.
SickStang615 he would also see this if for example he was to cold start the car and then immediately turn it off. Then if he started it back up 5 minutes after that it will shoot blue smoke out the exhaust. Does the catch can prevent that? Do you need 1 or 2? I thought I read somewhere before that you only need 1 but I can’t remember if it’s the passenger side or the driver side you need.
@@newfie-dean5803 If he cold starts then shuts down and proceeds to reignite it will be a rich fuel mixture and causes cloudy smoke , you can run 2 catch cans but usually one is enough for N/A applications
SickStang615 if you do what I said you will get a big puff of blue smoke out the tail pipes. I have a 2006 Mustang GT that will do that ever since new and I was reading about that happening to all the 3V engines. First time it happened to me I was like WTF. If you start it and let it run a few minutes it will not do that at all. It’s only if you start it cold and for just a few seconds.
+1 on the catch can! Driver's side is the main side to install it as this is the return side for the "PCV" system (enters engine downstream of the throttle body plates directly into intake)…..I'm using an ADD W-1 V3 series catch can on my '09 GT & it works wonders. I would also recommend that, if you're still using 5W-20 motor oil in a 3V, you upgrade it to 5W-30 or higher multi vis full synthetic motor oil as the higher viscosity oils are far more resistant to foaming when being slung around off moving engine parts as air is being drawn thru the engine so less oil mist to get trapped in it. Been there, done that. I had my GT custom tuned on dyno back in September...…...tuner made a total of 6 hits to get her to final numbers & my 3V never blew any smoke out exhausts after WOT, blue or otherwise......she has 144,500+ mi on the clock to boot (I do have a video recording of 1 of the hits that verifies this). Checked my CC afterwards.....never touched the dipstick then & hasn't touched it yet to this day (end of dipstick is 3\16" above bottom of CC) & I run Motorcraft Full Synthetic 5W-30 motor oil in it...…..best thing you can do to help protect the VCT cam phasers, improve VCT operational precision as well as maintain good timing chain tensioning & overall engine oil pressure is to use a higher vis motor oil, especially as the miles build up on them.
Solid numbers! Been waiting months for this video. Peak power at ~6,400 rpm, wow! That dip between 4,500 - 5,000 rpm is a lil wonky, custom tune would probably smooth that out and gain ya another ~10 all around (yeah yeah not worth 800 bones), but defs good numbers for an email tune and Hot Rod camshafts. Looking forward to some centrifugal bidness.
and we're waiting for your vids : )
Four Eyes hey man I have been waiting to see some more of your vids, come back soon!
Please come back @four eyes we need your amazing 3v content
The double hump torque peaks at 4300rpm & 5200rpm are normal for a 3V that's cammed but running a stock intake manifold.
thanks for the feedback man! get another video out there. The 3V community loves you
Definitely get those two things checked out before you push the car with boost. Thanks for all the great vids! Makes me enjoy modding my Stang just that much more.
yup i found the problem! next video
wtf is that mustache LMAOOOO
looks like a pornstache
Kyle Mundell mustache *vegeta’s voice*
could be from movember?
😂😂
😂😂exactly what i was thinking
Went and drove a 2010 GT 5 spd, just because of your videos.
nice! hope you liked it
Buy an oil separator (catch can) to fix the smoke. It will keep your engine healthy as well.
gotchu on that one
Team 3V forever
The 2005-2009 S-197 was the best looking made Stang ever.
I love your car and respect the passion, you're definitely one of my favorite 3v's. But to put all this money and work into a 3v just to be almost the same crank hp as a stock S197 5.0, would hurt my soul.
Man that's barely any money, the cost of his actual performance mods is very small. If you do the work yourself to install them, it's miniscule.
I'm at the same spot with my 08 s197, Lito tune and all and I'm only 6gs in including the initial cost of car.
You can spend 15k on a 5.0 to get you 360rwhp if you want, but after I drop 10k into my 08 4.6 I'll be at 800rwhp and just 16k invested.
Built not bought.
Kenny G where do stop because no matter what performance car you buy especially on a budget it's gonna be a faster newer car on the horizon soooooo where and when do you stop in my case I have a 3V I just like to mod it I don't care about the hp
For me, as a 3v owner, it would be worth it because I think the 3V s197 is the best looking Mustang since the 69 Fastback. I respect the Coyote but I just don’t like the look as much. Of course this is all dependent on personal taste, some guys like the fox bodies the best for example. Plus I’m not dumb enough to street race so as long as it’s fast enough to be a fun drive it’s all gravy.
It’s still pretty cool because he will surprise lots of Coyote owners and the 3V sounds better than the Coyote engine. And it’s a good project car to slow the capability.of that engine. And this body style looks great, it looks better than the 10-14, it has a true retro look with the best throwback styling to the late 60s Mustangs. I love the stance of these cars with nice wheels and wide tires.
@@Jedi391 This is a good reply. You have your own tastes and thus opinions, but you also have respect elsewhere.
Great to see you making over 400 crank hp nate! Congrats!
Yea that smoke I would look into that for Sure it shouldn't smoke like that brother ..Please get a oil catch can like a JLT cause if not oil go's right back in your intake which is not good got one for my 3v and my 02 WS6 and you would not believe the dirty oil in the catch can after every 3 ,000 miles.Please get one
yeah imma get that soon, just wait till you see what else I found haha
man, seeing these numbers makes me realize how crazy it is that my stock engine 2v is making 280hp and 330trq with just cai, throttle body, long tubes and a dyno tune.
I just subscribed right away cuz u didn't click bait one bit my god ty and all the info in the description
2 mods ladies and gentlemen.. oh and yeah don't forget that cam he threw in, but we won't talk about that because it's not a mod.
If you didn't deliver the horsepower you would still be selling solid platinum records on that sound your beautiful Sally makes. 400 to the crane is damn awesome Nate. Your car delivers a heck of a lot of muscle with those mods. This is a very exciting time for us Naterider Fans. As far as the smoke anytime you accelerate wide open throttle for that amount of pulls expect some smoke. It's no big deal.
thanks man! yeah thats what i thought. appreciate the support
The smoke is pretty normal on the dyno after you let off the gas, as long as it doesn’t get real bad
yeah thats what i thought too. thanks man
Been waiting for this video for a while man.. Cant wait for boost😎😏
video is live!
Nice man, grats
thanks dude!
Remember that a independent rear suspension that the s550s have they will have a greater drivetrain loss than the s197 because it’s a live axle
Good to have you back bro
thanks for the love man
Good numbers man. A lot of people forget that if you like that body style, why not build it?! I bought my 06 6 1/2 years ago for I think 12,000. I’d dump another 10k+ in mine over time no problem. Still would put me at 22k which is still what a lot of gen 1s go for.
Nate, first off please set that redline back down to 6400-6500. Stock valve springs are only good for 6800 and float past that. Also, it is NEVER a good idea to take these cars past 6500 unless your running phaser limiters or have them completely locked out. As for the smoke it is likely that you are burning oil due to its very slight bluish tint.
Sickest sounding 3 valve on youtube
So the manual 18s have been putting down about 410-415 to the rear wheels.
yeah they are crazy power
Ya know, im still running Bama. Yes it not the best but it's much better than stock. Lol. Keep up the mods and rep S197!!
haha get lito man! its waaayyy better
Nice job great video keep up the good work my friend your car is awesome
thanks man!
Good numbers bro, congrats on achieving your goal!
thanks man!
@@NateRiderManny, Moe & Sally...
Congratulations 👏🏼bro keep up the good work one day I’ll buy me a GT... Brrr 👹
get to it haha
Nate, I'm glad to see that your engine is finally putting down the 340rwhp that I'd predicted. However the 15% drivetrain loss is a throwback to the 4-speed cars from the 1960s and is irrelevant to 5 or 6 speed manual transmission cars made in the last 20 years; it's more like 12% on the S197 3V GT. That said, 388 crank HP is still pretty respectable.
yeah that was just a reference point but im glad its still around the rwhp that we determined!
Cool! Bruh said boost comin in a few videos couple videos ago😂🤷🏾♂️ can’t wait doe💯
video is live!!
Honestly.. This car seems like a lot better buy than my ecoboost Lol.. I should of gotten one of these instead.. probably would of spent half as much and made twice the power plus get all the sweet V8 sounds.. heh.
There's no sound like that of a V8.
You need and oil&air separator that would keep that oil going in you engine.
I love the smell of blow by in the morning
Dude I have to tell u 1 thing that hoped in my head when I seen that stache u have.i was like DAMN he put his eyebrows on his lip lol.just messing with u dude.love the car and the mods.
hahaah much love man!
Hell no. I didn't know BAMA SCT was the worst, I had good luck, but i just bought a 2010 GT back after 10 years and thanks for the info cause I would have stuck wit SCT. Vote with your wallets people!
Did i miss the 400 hp ? I seen 341 hp . My opinion is when you had the motor out you should have spent money on having it bored and stroked
She’s sounds good on the dyno
you should hear it in person man
Recently tuned my 3V Mustang through Lito - Going into Stage 2 with the build this Winter
Planning to wrap the whole car, swap the hood to a 3" cowl, and dog in deeper to some performance mods
I'm curious to see how it does in comparison when I dyno this summer... 🙂
Hoping my Brother finishes his 2JZ 240Z so we can meet up and make some crazy content
nice man! those sound like gnarly mods. keep up the great work
Math was off for the 5.0s
2018+ GT mustangs all make over 400 wheel HP
Fifteen percent drivetrain loss isn't accurate it's more like 12% with modern transmissions, 18s easily make 400 wheel
No they dont my brothers 5.0 made 378hp /2016 gen2
@@matttorres5968 i said 2018 ...
The 2018 has been putting down 400 to 410 to wheels on videos I’ve seen. I need to dyno mine before I put the xpipe see if I’m in the 400 range
If it's a manual it would be near 420 I seen 430 before
Tristan Smirnow oh yeah I forgot about that🤦🏿♂️ yeah I have the 6 speed hopefully I can drop 420 wheel.
I'm bolt ons and cammed and I'm at 315 horse 323 ft tq from my 2005 and I built the tune myself I got CAI bbk throttle body frpp hot rod cams bbk shorty headers that is it
nice
Stop with the mustache jokes yall! 🤣🤣😂
Sorry Nate your close but no cigar. Your making closer to 390. You take the 341 and times it by point 15, difference from crank to wheel is 12 to 15 percent. But thats is still very good.
yeah it was just a reference point that everyone puts the percentage on. thanks man!
Actually U wuld DIVIDE by .85 if ur starting from 341.
(Okay, my OCD feels better now.)
ytTaz480 lol that’s the same thing. Multiply by .15, then add the 341. And you get 392
Duwone Lashley
Ah, but U didnt say "add 341 again". Only said "341 times .15" which would be 51.15. Always least amount of operations.
Sorry, just a little math OCD.
HaHa
:-)
@@ytTaz480 Actually you wouldn't divide it by 0.85, you're close though. 1.15 and 0.85 are NOT inverses. Multiplying by 1.15 would be the same as dividing by (1/1.15), which equals to about 0.8696. Try the math and you'll see it leads to the same value. Happy maths!
Looks and sounds good.. cant wait for boost.. id go VMP..
new video is live
That's just unburned fuel, exhaust gas and some oil coming out of the exhaust. That's going to happen on any car with no cats that is revving for extended periods of time. Not a big deal at all.
thanks for the info man! appreciate it
My 3v has pretty much the same mods but with bbr stage 1 cams and I made 358 to the wheels🤔
hallo i have a problem with my gt 2007 3v 4.6 manual transmission with sct tune custom by bbr company with jlt air filter i have a miss fire on high rpm if i install brisk silver spark ignition up to 450 horse power should the problem end and its necessary to install msd coil ignition with the spark plugs or the coil make no difference,,,
& plz advice what is the best spark fits on my engine under ur group experience ?
🔥 I still didn’t get my s197 because I have to sell one of my cars I have 2
one day youll get it man!
Im in between buying a JLTs3 vs. Roush CAI, what are your thoughts with your JLT thus far, also is it worth the extra money to include tune vs no tune? Have you had any problems with smog because they are not CARB compliant for California? I have a 07 mustang GT...
4:29 dude be looking like Mario in a red shirt
I keep reading people questioning Nate on the money he has put in his car when there is S-197 with a 5.0 that you didn't have to spend money to achieve the same results. Have you ever thought it's fun to mod and see what you can gain on torque and horsepower? The first year the S-197 Gt got a 5.0 was 2010 and it's ugly in my humble opinion furthermore the 2005-2009 Mustang is the best looking in my opinion. I like my 2005 Mustang GT. I got it new as a surprise birthday present in November of 2004. I'm retired now and don't drive it that much but I love her. She has 107 thousand miles but she is mine. I have bolt on-s and have a CDC grill, removed the GT emblems, and the back spoiler is off and she is gorgeous. I enjoy the passion Nate has for his car because I can relate. Nothing against your Mustang but I thought maybe you would understand more why we mod slower cars. Lastly, if you haven't ever grown a mustache than you are lying. What's the big freaking deal? Maybe you don't have the balls to grow one. So you drive what you want to drive and let us 2005-2009 GT owners drive ours. If we all had the same car it would be a boring world, right?
preach man! love the support. keep on grinding and representing
I’m retired also and bought a pristine redfire 07 mustang GT premium with the red and black interior. I purchased it last year with only 36,000 miles for $15,000. I’ve put a few mods on it and it is always a big hit at the car shows. I grew up with the original mustangs and owned two 65’s and a 72 Mach 1. The 05-09 mustangs look more like the original and I agree with you. The models after have progressively gotten away from what a Mustang should look like.
2011 was the year they bought the 5.0. Source? I own one.
Oil at higher rpms. I would invest in a catch can and your dyno results are off due to your ghost cam. I had the same issues when I was N/A and I messaged lito to delete ghost cam and the results were perfect and I actually made 10+ more hp
yes that is coming soon!
What’s up Clark Gable?
Hand Solo 😂😂
haha the stache works miracles
Have to admit, I keep coming back to watch it on the dyno.
Car sounds real good.
The smoke out the exhaust could just be condensation bro
It May need a fuel induction soo it can gain more of its horsepower
Hey did you and lito have to datalog alot to get the tune right. I've got the same build with mithathumpr cams tho. We can't get the tune 100% stuttering from 2k-3k rpms under load.
i had 4 revisions and it was perfect
So why exactly are you not a fan of aftermarket throttle bodies?
What do you do for a a living?
i work for apple
Ok, you’re definitely not seeing 15% drivetrain loss on that Solid axle S197, probably closer to 10
If that was my car and I saw it smoke like that, I'd be pretty nervous about it.
Do you have stock bottom end, because if you add boost you can't go more than 450hp to the motor or it will start breaking shit.
How you get in contact with lito because i want to get my 3v retuned
That be nice if could get yourself some e-85 your would definitely hit over 350 to the wheel maybe more
E-85 may be coming
@@NateRider 😮🤑
Please put all sally vids in a playlist
15% is not 0.85. Divide 1 by 1.15 and you'll get a different number than 0.85. The same is true with 20%. Decimals and fractions are weird like that. The inverse of 1.25 is 0.8, for instance. And the inverse of 0.75 is 1.33(repeating). Also, I can almost guarantee whatever cams you choose are sub-optimal.
Look up David Vizard and basically redo your (or do any new) engine based on his expertise, particularly when it comes to headers and cams, but what he has to say on head work is equally useful, just less applicable since it's harder to custom order head work than it is to get custom ground cams or a set of headers that are close enough to correct (or at least useful) to what he would spec.
If you get time make a video of just having the headers only on the car no midpipe or axlebacks
Alexander Diedrich he’ll get on that right away, lol.
Been waiting for a while for this video. It was interesting how you pointed out how the Lito tune was a little wavy compared to the Bama tune. I wonder what it would have looked like if you had data logged with Bama. But any way thanks for posting all your progress!
yeah i wonder too, im not sure! thanks man
Nat , I got a 2007 gt . I have mufflers. Thats it.. I was thinking to order nitrous , what are some bolt on's do I need. And what spark plugs thank you.
Brock Fijal nitrous is great for the 3v in terms of power but you risk blowing up your engine (like nate and jonathan harder)
You need the colder spark plugs if you do run nitrous, and at the minimum, a tune.
Brock Fijal get autolite H7 for N/A application Cold air intake, underdrive pulleys Detroit rocker cams and longtubes gears would be nice 4:10,s
REVILO 4.6 we have enough money for everything besides the cam I would be getting it a tune as well. Do you think I need cams
Sports Car Connoisseur I understand the risk but I really want to go just a bit faster. Nate's gave me a list of things but this car is my everyday driver and sometimes I just want a little more speed you know to pass those Camaros. Do you think I need cams for the nitrous or should I just get underdrive pulleys, cold air intake, maybe a 62 mm throttle body, the plugs you mentioned, and nitrous. Do you think that would be a good combination or should I actually get cams for the car? Thank you guys for responding
@@brockfijal9244 Nitrous is very hard on an engine. I would never do it.
That smoke looks like your piston rings are going bad ..are those stock ?
yes they are
Probable cause
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Nate wait! I know boost is coming soon. (Super/turbo) but before you do that, I was looking around and came across some 4.6L 3v mustangs that can push a lot with some engine upgrades like the pistons, rods and headblock, I’m sure you looked into that already, but how about you upgrade those before the boost? Who knows maybe you’ll be seeing higher numbers than 500 since the engine would be able to handle a higher tune with the boost
The first gen Coyotes make about 370 wheel stock
But they have one of the worst manual transmissions produced.
3644Darrell clearly you don’t know shit
@@solidstreetrunz3956 The Chinese made Getrag MT-82 transmission is well know for it's problems. Even the 2018's shift forks are defective. They have lock out's in third and fourth gear. There are videos on youtube of one that just happened to break while filming among many others demonstrating their problems. They almost got a complete recall in 2011, but Ford got out of it somehow. There are multiple lawsuits against Ford for these transmissions and theyhave caused multiple accidents from breaking while driving. Are you a completely uninformed moron? Do some research. Learn to read.
3644Darrell yeah there’s a lot of problems with people that want to boost their stock cars and expect everything else to hold up when they push they’re cars ... all you gotta do is change the clutch on those mt82s and they’re not that bad... go look a Alejandro Flores RUclips channel he knows these cars better than anyone on RUclips .. dumb fuck
@@solidstreetrunz3956 well dumbass, his car was the one whose transmission broke while he was making a video. Maybe you need to rewatch his channel some more. You have a real potty mouth for a girl
Flat Plane Crank V8 Sound Engine and Cross Plane Crank V8 Sound Exhaust
I cannot find them online
If my math is correct, a tuned 8psi should put you over 410HP.
What math? Because boost pressure and hp dont really relate like that. Too many factors. 8 psi at 600cfm is gonna be different that 8psi at 800cfm.. there are too many factors to base hp on a psi???
@@TheModAddict Double the atmospheric pressure = double the power.
Its widespread knowledge.
3:45 pm ✅
Damn I should have gone to that
Bruh you need a dyno tune itll help you out a ton more I get you want to do a budget build but if you really want to see the numbers and get the most get a dyno tune
Luis Santiago-Garcia A tuner on a dyno sees the same Information as a remote tuner when you data log. The only advantage is it’s a stationary road and it spits out a number at the end.
@@josephhovanec1501 damn but cant you get slightly better results from a dyno tho I mean I'm sure they can probably get a little more not 100% sure
Please keep the stache 💯🤔
Not wasting my time and cashola on my 3 valve. Sold the engine, harmess, ecu and trans. 368 LS almost done. T56 magnum on order
Do you have family on italy or something?
Did you go procharger?
yes! video is live
I would look into a catch can that vents to atmosphere especially if you’re going forced induction the check valve on the pcv system can fail (mine did) I bought a universal one on eBay it wasn’t one of the cheap ones it came with 10an lines and I tucked my catch can into my fender in a nice spot to be able to drain it while I do my oil changes I have a boosted Mach 1 I haven’t had any blow by but I did just build it (also the person who recommended I do this is the guy who tuned one of the fastest stick shift mustangs in the world the tt minion)
And if your car is burning oil like that a supercharger is the last thing you should be doing until ots repaired. It will only get worse.
i know lol just wait till you see what I found out in my next video lol my oil leak is sooo bad
@@NateRider Oh no...
Wait so what kind of boost is he gonna go with?
new video on it is live!
My buddies 18 5.0 made 437 hp and 405 ish to the wheels completely stock got dyno like a week after it was pull off the lot lol
ayyy
Gotta have a mustach to drive a mustang
sold my 2v and got a civic. once im boosted il want to run you when youre boosted
lets do it
Get that thing off the dyno and to the nearest quarter mile track!!
coming soon!
@@NateRider Seriously can't wait to see this.
2011 5.0 is 412 crank
2013 5.0 is 420 crank
2015 5.0 is 435 crank
2018 5.0 is “460” crank even though it’s dynoed for way more power than that so they realistically make ~500 crank
Nate have you thought of getting new cylinder heads?
yes, but a lot of work and expensive
The stock cylinder heads on the 3v are very good
I've seen stock 3v make 270 rwhp
Luis Santiago-Garcia my moms camry makes 290 lmao
@@HTSWAGGER to the crank not the wheels lol
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I had 344 RWHP & 344 TORQUE is that rite ???
I know you like to say catch phrases but seriously stop saying "full bolt on". Your car is not, you are missing heads and a driveshaft. I have similar mods and am making quite a bit more torque and horespower on a "trash" bama tune as you like to say. I'd have your engine looked at as that smoke might indicate rings that are bad and oil being burnt.
Jed Knouse he just needs the oil separator .
Also you are missing the intake manifold, those charge motion delete plates remove a bit of the restriction but the stock intake manifold is engineered differently and drops off in the upper rpm.
He is FBO. If you have an intake, and intake manifold, and headers, you’re already FBO.
@@negativesplits06 cams are not bolt on
3644Darrell I never said they were.
Dude I have the same aftermarket stuff on my 07 mustang wanna send me that litto tune?
it won't work like that. you have to get one specifically for ur ride
Ahh I just have all the same mods oh well worth a shot thanks for the reply
All that work and the car only makes 341 hp? I had an intake and tune on my 2006 s197 and made 317hp and 333 torque in a 100 degree garage.
classiccarfan100 not every dyno is the same
Also not every person is honest
That’s not a realistic number. But good for you .
It was blue which indicates coolant.
Don't give advice if you have no idea what you're talking about. Blue smoke is oil...coolant/water is white.