Stock 3V 2005 - 10 Mustang Max HP Limits (EXPLAINED AND MYTH BUSTED) DYNO at Brenspeed
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2019
- The Myth, The BS, the rumors, lets find out what it can really take. Brent explains 15 years of building 3V Mustangs and covers the rule of thumb on your stock 3V Supercharged Mustang and trying to find a reliable HP (or should we say TORQUE) LEVEL.
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I'm impressed you go the extra mile to explain the process. You are not trying to just sell but you are trying to teach us and answer questions. Excellent job.
Thanks Daniel.
@@BrenspeedEngineering Finally Got the Paxton 2200SL Wow!! She is so much fun!!!
Good video! You build my 06 gt years ago still running strong! Saleen supercharger Detroit rockers long tube headers 4.10 gears. 442 hp 419 torque still a beast!!! Thank you!
Awesome glad to hear it!
Do you have any 1/4 mile times or 0-60 0-100? I’m interested in this specifically!
Stock motor I’m assuming?
Dan Ingle crank I’m guessing?
Are those crank or wheel numbers? And roughly how much did that whole package cost if you don't mind my asking? I would love a similar setup for my 05 GT.
just finished the whole vid, and man, u have no idea how many of my questions have been answered by this.
Awesome thanks for watching!
Great video and Q&A. Just bought a used 06 convertable GT automatic with Roush in it, was ordered new this way, has 100K now, it was owned by a woman who kept it in perfect shape and serviced at a Ford Roush dealer in Oregon. I was worried that it might be getting weak. Watching the video made me feel good about the miles, especially since you said if well maintained don't worry. Learning a lot about Mustang builds from Brenspeed... just a side note bought this as a 50th. wedding present for my wife, we were talking about how much we missed my 63' Red split 427 Corvette with side pipes we crusied in during High School. So time for a convertible go fast Mustang happy 50th. she smiles every time she looks at it... Vancouver USA
This video makes more since than any other video I’ve watched. Thank you.
Great thanks!
Opened my view and pretty much made my decision concrete. Love watching your videos and seeing what different packages do to the 3valve. Keep the content coming good work!
Thanks for checking it out.
Bren just tuned my 4.6L 3V 2007 GT/CS. Wow. So much better over the Custom Performance (Concord, NC) tune that the previous owner had done in 2008. This thing is soooo much more alive and much more steady to drive. Throttle response has been greatly improved. Idle sounds amazing now. The timing is perfect with the cams! Thank you Brenspeed!!!
Awesome thanks for the update!
I bought the Rousch/Brenspeed TVS almost 2 years ago. I already had Detroit Rockers and long tube headers. This kit had excellent detailed instructions. The install was pretty easy. I followed the instructions step by step. The first key hit it started right up, and I have not had to do anything but change the oil. My Mustang had 100,000 miles on the car and 60,000 on the engine. It is very fun to drive. I would recommend this kit to anyone interested.
Great info Bob thanks for watching!
@@BrenspeedEngineering
I have a 2006 that I bought new and I'm always glad to see 3v videos. I've bought most of my parts (especially the tune) from Brenspeed and I always will. :D
Thanks for your support!
Doug helped me outon mine too, put my wife's titties in the back seat when I would launch.
Stuck around to watch this whole video and this was hugely helpful. I have a 2010 GT with full exhaust and some bolt-ons. I've been looking for ways to get the power up in and your videos are helping a ton in terms of showing me the options available to me. Thanks
Glad it helped!
Watched the video while I’m sitting in your showroom waiting on completion of my baby , fabulous place here and will be back for further mods plus George has been a great help through this entire process.
Great thanks for the comment and visiting!!!!!
I'm late to this video but Brenspeed's tunes are GREAT! You dialed in my Paxton 2200 setup with LT's perfectly. I kid you not, the amount of time you put into these tunes show; from idle, to drivability, to WOT pulls. Never skipped a beat.
Awesome glad you like it!
You guys tuned my 2008 GT/CS with a Saleen Supercharger kit from Breenspeed. It had about 28,000 miles on it, now it has 103,000 miles and still runs like a top, these guys know what they are doing.
Thanks for the comment.
I dont even have a 3v and i love watching your vids. May have to get one as a beater since they sound so damn good. And yes post a vid on that mountaineer
Great to hear. Thanks for watching!
Buy one
Definitely buy one
I bought one
I have a fleet... 07 kenne bell gt500, 14 coyote turbo... daily a Durango srt. 3V are at such a good price right now, I may end up with another...
Love watching brenspeed tv short but very informative videos. You guys are awesome
Kevin thanks for watching.
Not stock anymore but excellent video none the less, Brent is building me a badass 3V longblock as we speak 😀 wouldn't trust anyone else especially with the tuning !
Shoutout to you too Doug for taking your time answering all my dumb questions lol
Great team over at Brenspeed
Thanks a bunch!
Clint P.
Thanks Clint you will love that long block with your Edelbrock.
Watched till the end, Love this content Brenspeed!! I'll have my 08 Mustang Gt, 5 speed, 4.6 sometime this next month in December an I cant wait!!!
Awesome Max thanks.
Did you get it
Sure did! It's just been wrecked in the front end at 20mph, soon as we can finish my cousins 94 C4 Vette, were gonna start on mine! Cant wait.. :))
Thank you for the information! You have answered almost all the questions I've had. The only thing different that I'm thinking about doing now is a possible 5.0 coyote swap in my 06 s197
Watched the whole video! Great information about the limits of the 3v. Helped me tremendously in figuring out the direction I want to go on my 2010.
Glad I could help. Thanks.
I’ve been helped by this segment and bought another 3v based on all the knowledge I’ve gained from your site. It’s nice
AWESOME!
There’s no denying that 3Vs sound sweet! I watched the whole video.
Awesome thank you for watching!
Brenspeed you betcha, thanks for educating us Mustang fans so well! You need to expand with a facility in Canada! 😊
Funny people say 3v sound great now...15 years ago when they came out everyone hated the sound because they didnt (and still dont) sound as good as the older sn and new edge 2v and 4vs. Kind of funny how people think differently these days.
Michael Harris I think the 05-09 GT always sounded great.
Great video, yes I watched the full video! Thanks for supporting torque. My question would be when to use/not use a aluminum flywheel.
Really depends what you do with the car. I like aluminum for highway kick downs, I like steel for inertia off the line at the drag strip. BUT, it really depends on weight they are all different.
Thank you for taking the time to do this. Awesome video
No problem thanks!
Hey, just watched your video on super chargers... good informative stuff. You answered most of my questions. I’ll be checking your packages out.. THANKS!👍
Glad it was helpful!
I always gain a lot of knowledge from your vids man, I'd love to see what a built N/A 3 valve is capable of. Keep em coming
Thanks!
with the way the aftermarket is changing i wouldnt doubt a 3v to hit low 10s or break 9s n/a fully built. especially if it ends up converted to a 6r80 or 10r80
@@LightningFast240 I have a 07 roush stage 3. would I be ok with 10psi .I was thinking putting long tubes too. All I have is a cold air intake ,cat deletes..
@@israelcabrera4358 you'll be fine. Put some good gas in it. Make sure it's got fuel and nice and cool. Should last you even at maybe 12-13psi. Don't get too much crazier after that unless you forged the internals.
@@LightningFast240 thank you!!! I appreciate it...
I would definitely like to see a video on "no love"
So would Doug lol. THANKS for watching!
You installed a roush 560R supercharger on my 08 a little over a year ago, and I love it!!!!! Great video keep up the good work!
I love the 560R. Thanks!
I watched this and enjoyed every minute. Thank you for your time in making this.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I've had a centrifugal on my 06 for 4 years. About 525 rwhp And I love it. I don't track it so that was the better option. Lots of fun on them streets. Not a single issue.
AWESOME
Stock internals ?
@@EEvil94 yea completely stock. Just the kit.
@@chrisxl5152525 rwhp? Wow that’s great, which centrifugal kit?
Watched the whole video ... awesome info as always - love the John Belushi poster in the background ... and "yes" - we all want to see a video of "no love" - lol
Awesome thanks for sticking around and it looks like NO LOVE needs some coverage.
Subbed to your channel after watching a few videos, it's a different theme than most other car enthusiast channels and I don't mind it's a company plug 💪 your work speaks for itself
Thanks for the sub!
Great video! 100,000 miles with a Paxton 2200 run low 11s any day of the week. Great guys to work with and installation guides super easy to follow.
Thanks Shelby your car rips.
Good video! Would like to see one on the 11-14 models
OK thanks!
Great vid, Thanks
I'm at 522 rwhp and 434 tourqe
NICE NUMBERS!
Dan Wallace damn turbo or supercharger and if I wanted 500hp i should be able to have my tuner turn down the torque right
Where your fueling set up
@@Twinturbomach try to use 93 but sometimes 91 with a snows stage 2 water meth kit
Dan Wallace what fuel pump and size injectors?
Love the channel finally somebody that knows what they're talking about torque is what moves the car not horsepower!
Thanks Mike.
I love watching your vids. They give me motivation and ideas for what to do with my 3v
Great info Jon, thanks for hanging out and watching.
Amazing Video to share some knowledge of the 3v potential! Video needs 200k+ views!!! We live in a world where everyone sneezes at the sound of 700 horsepower. In reality a 500 wheel horse car, that weighs 3600lbs and is dialed in is still a solid runner!
Thanks for watching and the comments Walter.
Realistically I know it an old post btw but what kind of numbers should one expect with a 2.3 blowers ideally (550ish with proper pulley and e85)and a decent driver behind the wheel and the proper supporting mods tire headers etc. because I’m thinking coyote swap but if I can compete with low boost new muscle cars
@@smoke_oguwop what exactly are you asking? How fast can she run in the 1/4 on stock internals with full bolt ons and roughly 9-10lbs with a roush 2.3 blower?
@saggin 1 with a dialed in 3v you can easily get them into the mid 11s @117+ down the 1/4. If you go the extra mile with mild weight reduction and some lighter rotating mass components you can have a healthy low 11 second car. Many people got them into the high 10s on stock internals.
Walter Macknight yes, my bad I forgot to actually ask my question lolz
That explains why despite always hearing "it only goes to 450/500", I've seen turbo kit claims and boosted 3Vs that go way higher in HP. All I got is an 07 V6 right now, but after seeing this, I'm definitely someday adding a GT to boost(or better yet, a 3V-era GT500) in the stable. I was considering a Coyote for some time, but I've been in love with the 3V's nostalgic looks since I saw it as a kid around '05.
Thanks for the comment!
World record is 613.19 whp with on3 turbo kit for 3v
What are you saying? How much torque?
@@raimondhyperburia3855 what do you not understand about world record 3v on stock motor?
@@zeeshankidwai7110 you can put 900 hp on one run, after that change the engine,thats not a problem. Again... How much torque?
I watch the whole video, last year my wife and I purchased a 2010 Rough Mustang for our 50th wedding anniversary. When I called Roush to get a build sheet they claimed that the car didn’t come from Roush. It is an GT Mustang and had only 5000 miles on it. The car is pristine It does have Roush plate under the hood that said it has 450 hp with 425 pounds of torque, and to drive this car it is amazingly fast To me. Your video makes a lot of sense to me thank you for the video.
Thanks James.
Watched this video a few times doesn’t get old, fantastic videos excellent work can’t wait to shop with y’all much love from Texas 🤘🏼
Awesome! Thank you!
Great video! Being that they use the same connecting rods, would the 450 ft/lbs max torque rule also apply to the 2 valve engine?
Pretty much all of the 2v and 3v engines are limited because they all share the same rods which are...at best...adequate.
Would like to see more 2vs builds if you get any
Will try as they come in!
@@BrenspeedEngineering I'm building a full ARP 4.6L with 5.3 liters after bore and stroke, ford 5.0 boss block, stroker kit, and trick flow 195R heads. We're going to bring the little 2v to around 8K, I was wondering if you knew somebody who could spec the cams based on flow #'s
Everything is at the machine shop being assembled right now them I'm putting the top end on to longblock it.
Great Video I have a 2006 GT with a Vortech non-intercooled system from you guys, 3 years and 30,000 miles ago...ZERO issues with power or reliability. Doesn't matter how fast you are if your not running at all!
THANKS
'07 Mustang. Stock 3V. Detroit Rockers. Long Tubes. Stock auto trans and torque converter. Supercharged by Brenspeed in December 2008 and rolling strong at 116,000 miles +. Last dynoed in 2010 at 456 hp and 434 trq on an older style twin screw blower. Thanks for the good info. We all definitely need to see "No Love" rockin' the rollers and then you should take an audience poll to rename "No Love".......since she's obviously getting love now.......
hey Justin whats up glad the old Saleen is still kicking! Thanks!
Nice vidieo watched it all and would like to see a vid on "no love"
Looks like NO LOVE is getting some votes. Thanks for watching!
I watched to the end, it was very informative. I have a '06 GT that I've always wanted to supercharge and you explained it nicely. Have you heard of Department of Boost? If you have, what do you think about their set-up?
Thanks for watching! I have seen a couple DOB kits way, WAY, back in the day but never really see anybody use them anymore. Back then I did not care for the 3V kit, but maybe now they are different.
This was really helpful. I have an 05 and it was right on track with what I was planning on doing.
Great thank you!
I made it to the end, thanks for the info. I'm hoping to own a 3v mustang in the future and this information really helps👍👍
Great thanks Alex.
Watched the whole video. Love seeing all those 3v's on the dyno.
Awesome THANKS for watching!
Thanks a million for this vid. I picked up a really nice Vista Blue 2006 GT Mustang last summer. All stock save for a Steeda Tri-Ax shifter and a Magnaflow axle back. This vid has answered many questions because i have a lot planned for the car.
Glad it helped!
I watched the whole video. Awesome! Loved it. You make the best dang videos. Answering all my 3V questions.
THANKS!
I watched the whole video
Made me appreciate my 05 3valve running strong @ 107k can't wait to get one your packages!!!
GREAT glad you love your car.
Great info on a 3 valve engine I like the contents you did on all the Mustangs on all the superchargers
Thanks Vincent.
Ok hands down... best video on RUclips about gettin power out of your 3v mustang
What awesome dedication.. a shop and office and website and almost endless videos for every setup for every person budget or goal
Humble approach and inspire confidence in any mustang owners v6 or v8. Listen to this guy man he knows his stuff when he breaks out the dry erase board pay attention... he gives away gold in experience and has been through almost every mistake you can make so you don't have to
💯 recommend
Wow, thanks! Appreciate you watching and commenting!
Listening to your video now while I'm building engines. Keep up the good work, love the informative videos
LOL dont let me distract you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Want to start working on my wifes 06 3v car soon so I have been checking you guys out for the info and parts to do it with. Liked the video and subscribed to check out more content. Thanks for giving the 3v some love.
Great thanks surf the channel you will find a lot of 3V info.
Your videos are incredibly useful for the Mustang community. Thank you.
NO PROBLEM!
I watched the whole video. Very glad you do these. I've been thinking about doing this to mine. Thanks for the info see you this summer
See you this summer!!!!
I watched the whole video. I already have a few Brenspeed upgrades on my 07 Roush LC. But MAN do I need that boost! Thanks for all your vids. As a fellow Mustang lover, your vids always make me dream
Any time!
Phil Clark here I had you install an Edelbrock 560 supercharger on my 3V 2006 Mustang also had 373 Eaton gears, Moser axle and Borla axle back in 2010. Still runs great and no problems! thanks to Brenspeed!! 445 hp and 424 Torque at the rear wheels.
AWESOME
I watched the whole video. Thanks for clearing up the HP limit debate. Its acrually TQ. Makes so much sense.
Thanks for watching and thanks for the comment.
Awesome, thanks for the no BS info. I'll take solid lower numbers on the chart if it means stone axe reliability. I drive a Peterbilt for a living, so I agree, torque is where it's at.
Thanks!
Great video! thanks for all the information. You guys are def going to be my go to for upgrades.
Great to hear!
Lot of great info brother! Appreciate your contributions to the 3v world!!!
Thanks Big Daddy
Watched the whole video as always! Great one! Finally a cameo from Doug! He actually told me about "no love" on one of my phone calls to you guys. Man I need to get a blower.👍
Thanks for watching Eric!
You can usually find some in downtown Indianapolis on the main drag.
Watched the whole video.. you're welcome. Thanks for all the information. Yes, show us NO LOVE.
Best 3v tuner out there. My 93oct Brenspeed tune for my 07 Sporttrac is absolutely amazing. Went from a 0-60 in 7.8sec to 6.5sec on a 4,600lb truck.
Eventually I plan on making it a 400hp N/A screamer.
AWESOME
Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us. Super helpful. If you guys can do install videos also that would be freaking awesome. Keep up the good work!
Thanks Rick!
I watched till the end. Buying a 2006 gt Monday. Already convinced me to buy a kit from you. Good job.
THANKS
Looking at a 2006 vortech supercharged mustang tomorrow. This video was an amazing amount of help. Thanks a lot!
Glad it helped!
Of course I watched the whole video! Thank you for everything guys! Bitchin’. 🤘🏼
Thanks Kim!
I loved the video! I have a 05 stick car with a tvs2300 stage 2 kit. Its fbo running comp127550's I bought from you on the stock motor with 155,000 miles. Im so tired of my coyote buddies telling me that the motors are practically glass and won't hold 500whp. Keep the 3v Videos coming man.
Nice set up!
Thanks for this video! I’m about to build my dream 05’ mustang and this was beyond helpful. Thanks
Glad it helped!
I know it's been a while, but I watched the whole video! It's really fun learning new things about the s197
Great thanks!
Thank you for this video so hopefully the comments can stop about how much hp a 3V can handle. I was so tired of reading them after every video you did on a 3V great video. I watched the entire video as always and yes let's see no love
If you are tired of reading them, think about me reading them. Thanks!
Excellent!!! I have come to realize that every information video that I've watched of yours has been very helpful and easy to comprehend.
Proud Owner of a 2006 Roush Convertible. Its gonna get a SC in the near future. 👍
Glad it was helpful!
Watched the whole video. Informative as always guys!
AWESOME thanks for watching!
Got a bunch of work done from u guys a few years ago. Can’t wait till I can get it back to you for some more
Thanks for watching!
Stayed around till the end to make sure I didn’t miss any info, thanks for all the information, I plan on getting some Detroit Rockers and eventually supercharging my 2007 Stage 1 Roush, only thing is its got 128k but I feel like its been well maintained
You will like the Rockers. Such a nice lope and power.
Watched the whole video and really enjoyed it!! (:
I've had two 3 valves. First one auto, second one is a manual with full bolt ons
bbk cold air
Twin 62mm throttle body
Ford racing manifold
Msd coil packs
Hot rod cams
Kooks LTHdrs
Magna flow catback
Duel GT500 fuel pumps
Sitting at 109k miles
I hope I'm able to boost my car soon with a edelbrock or (what I'd prefer) a 2.3 Roush TVS. 500whp would be perfect for me. Been a fan of your work for the last 5 years. Keep up the good work on the videos. I cant wait to see some more awesome content!
Hot rod cams will limit you as they bleed boost because of the overlap if I'm not mistaken
Watched the whole video multiple times now. Thank you for the information.
High Five thanks for watching!
I watched it until the end. Thanks for all your awesome videos.
You rock!
Great info. My 3v is at 450hp and 448 lbft/tq, and was afraid to go higher HP with the stock motor because of the HP "myth". Thanks!
Thank you for watching.
I'm only 4 minutes into it but I had to comment. So glad you are emphasizing torque over horsepower. I always tell my buddies torque moves the car. Horsepower is just a calculation of what the torque is at a given rpm.
THANKS
great information on the difference between the two types of superchargers and their ability.
Thanks for watching Lyndale!
thank you. my first time seeing your site. knew anyone with Jims pic on the wall had to be ok. My 07 is sitting in the tent waiting to be re- conditioned when the snow goes. hope to become more informed with such a great car. its a car that everyone comments on. bit of an Eleanor wanta be. have my 2016 Cali mags on it and can't believe the look. 3v's are such fun to rev. and shift. when i hit 3000 i can hardly hold on.
Fantastic video! I appreciate all the time and effort you put into your videos! You explain everything that the average Motorhead knows exactly what you are talking about. I have spent many evenings just watching Brenspeed tv!! I thank you, but not so much the wife!! 🤣 Keep up the great work!!
Thank you very much!
I hung around to the end. I’m am older dude who has had many older muscle cars over the years. After selling my Jaguar SBC/XJS I ran across a really clean 2008 GT/5sp. It looks great but after living with it a while I realize it’s not what I expected power wise. I’d like something to take to the local 1/8mi but it could use a little help. Glad I found your videos, I’ll be checking out more. Most of what I was finding was Kevlar shift knobs, halo headlights and stupid loud exhaust videos. I was starting to think maybe this just wasn’t my crowd lol. Most of what I know about are big cube motors with carbs so definitely a learning curve on this sweet little car.
Hey thanks for watching and follow this channel. Watch all the 3V mustang videos on the playlist you will enjoy. Thanks. ruclips.net/p/PLyyePPaOSI81BtzSrQjoJ_rJzqp6xzk1t
You guys installed my Roush two and a half years ago and I had to do a t56 conversion 8 months ago and with your calibration and it is truly amazing. I bought the 3.55 gears, moser axles and the eaton tru trac from you,
it.s killer... by the way I watched the whole video.
How much u paid
Great Joe thanks for watching and glad you love your car!
Great video love the work you guys do will be calling to get an appointment for my 14 Saleen mustang for a turn key package.
Awesome thanks
Excellent video and very informative Brent. Still diggin' the `12 F150 Sleeper from AK, really turns some heads - inside and outside of the beast!!
Yes that is one sweet truck!
Keep up the great work on these badass fords
Will do thanks!
Extremely well done video. I had a mustang that I so badly wanted to bring to you guys. From IL. Hopefully in a couple years I will be able to bring my stang for a big makeover.
That would be cool!
My dad and I bought a project mustang and your videos are the crucial when what your choosing your modification goals. In strwd going in blind with high hopes you go in prepared and result in reasonable expectations from your high hopes.
He really helps you choose " the right path" hah
Peace to all your pony owners out there
500hp is no joke but with this guy smiling @ the power you get laughing comes naturally
Thanks for watching!
I watch the whole video. You put out some very informative information keep it up
I appreciate that!
Excellent video Brent, and thanks for busting an internet myth. So the limit for the stock 3V connecting rods is actually ~450rwtq (stock drivetrain with manual tranny) rather than ~450rwhp.
As a 2006 GT owner, I'm always keenly interested in your 3V related videos. Keep up the great work.
Thanks for watching!
@@BrenspeedEngineering I haven't seen you do a turbo build up on a 3V. Do you plan on doing one?
I watched the whole video. Owner of an 06 for 10 years. After watching your Coyote swap, thinking about maybe doing the same and getting a price from your shop. I have 136000 miles with a fare amount of bolt ons mainly suspension, handling and SCT tuner.
Thanks for the great content.
Thanks for watching. Coyote swaps typically start at around $20k depending on what you want. The want list can really drive the price up also. THANKS for watching!
This video was very knowledgeable I always thought it was about your rear wheel horsepower but now I know it's your torque.
Thanks for the comment.
Learned so much from this. Watched the whole thing😉 thanks guys!
Great thanks for watching.
I have Saleen F150 Supercharged 5.4 3v truck. Unfortunately no one here in Australia has much experience with them.
This video answered a ton of my questions and I am very keen to have a talk about my options.
Thanks for watching!