Appreciate the video and your clear and concise explanations. You also do a great job of focusing on solutions rather than the problems. I have this job coming up. I’m still relatively new at it and this video helped me a great deal. Thank you.
Dude. I am 61 years old and no job. 04/20/24 and I am actually following you to fix my bathroom! thank you for the way you explain things. After watcthing so many people . you are the BEST !!!!!!!
I don't even need to know this but enjoy watching anyway. You always make things easy to understand and give out useful info.... And shower looks awesome
More power to you buddy. I don’t have the patience for things like this lol. I usually tell my customers “I’m not a plumber, I need the flange flush with the subfloor”.
Such great explanation even for someone like me who understands very little. Now I was able to have my husband leave the fear behind and show him how you did it😊
Good video, lots of good professional tips. Plumbing is sometimes a real challenge, there is always options for fittings to get the job done, just want to mention Ive used a reciprocating saw the reaches into tight spaces which works really nice for cutting PVC pipe, if you make a few slices into the edge of a fitting then uses a good HT heat gun you can actually peal away the fittings with out damaging the pipe or fitting you need to remain usable. this can be really helpful
As always great video and very knowledgeable. Ive been watching you for years. I noticed you stated that a plumber would never take the time to break out the concrete and replace that improper 1.5" trap. As a plumber myself i always take the extra time to do it the proper way (as the UPC book specifically states that you cant reduce the rated size of a fixture trap). Showers need to flow 2" for a reason including flooding purposes. But i also recognize that cheap customers don't want to spend extra money sometimes and sometimes it just ain't in the bid! (: Much respect for the effort and time you put into teaching us!!
Much respect, and I can appreciate where you're coming from, what I'm suggesting is that they're probably wouldn't be many plumbers that would go below grade to get to that P-trap because that's where it would be, but of course plumbers make six figures a year so I suppose you will still do what you need to do. But yes of course GPM that flows through a bathtub is much more than would be a shower but of course we have a shower curb that's extremely short compared to the size of a bathtub.... I've just never heard of a shower overflowing from the curb because the pipe was too small, that's just my personal take on it. Thanks for watching and thanks for the comment ✌🏻👌🏻
First of all your video four years ago really helped me do my first walk-in shower I believe you’re the only one that actually did it right on all the DIY RUclips videos that I saw. Regarding the 2 inch drain reducing to 1 1/2 I believe this could be a problem, as with a tub you You step out you pull the plug your tub drains in the timing it takes to drain. When you’re taking a shower if the drain can’t accommodate the GPM you’re going to be standing in a couple inches of water regardless if it goes over the curb or not, it’s not a comfortable feeling to stand in gray water while taking your shower. Just saying. I’m going to do this conversion and I’m a little concerned on when I did the first tub install over 20 years ago, where my 1.5 inch drain connects to the 2 inch to 2 inch. I Guess I will find out when I pull the tub and check. But I can definitely see through the access panel that it is definitely a 1.5 inch P-trap.
That looks great for people going tub to shower. But I'm going the other way: want to put a short bathtub onto a shower (without yanking that out). Is that possible?? Thank you.
I almost have the same problem but instead of 3" I have 2" to the drain base. Can I use 1/2" cement backboard on the floor area to gain 1/2" and them floor mud to level the whole floor?
Great job! Got a question... if I use Dennshield tile backer for my walls do you think it’s necessary to put a couple coats of redgard on it? I’m already buying a gallon to waterproof the floor and I don’t want it to go to waste. Is waterproofing the densshield an extra layer of protection or will it create a mold sandwich?
I recently asked this on one of your other videos my concrete slab is stained do I need to strip the stain off in order to use thinset and mud pack for my shower pan
So as I mentioned in the video it is not good to have straight 90s, you want sweeping 90s as I also mentioned @10:50... however in this case it wasn't possible but at the end there was a sweeping 90 at the drain. And any plumber will have different cable sizes for their snake in the extreme rare case they need to clear a p-trap
I’ve recently installed a new shower drain. Before i concrete it in, will it be an issue if the drain housing is an 1/8” lower than the existing concrete slab?
@@samdaniel5703 you are not mortaring your pan to concrete, there will still be a waterproofer or liner or something, you have a lot more research to do it appears
Haha😂 I'm not going to run into crappy home builder screw ups. You've never worked in Louisiana, where the lazy building inspectors don't inspect work done outside the city limits. That pipe job looked like an opps moment. Here, you'd have more WTF were they thinking moments.
In Texas too. I had two 3" stack drains both leaking, one was cracked, my guess is a limb may have hit the stack on the roof, I had to peal the exterior siding & sheathing cut to reveal the area, found a Tee that had a big crack, silicon-ed & duct taped! then 12 feet down the wall wear a water supply froze I had to do an emergency fix on, found that someone had been into the wall already, (sheathing cut) sill rotted & non existent, cold air pouring in the wall, some bonehead again performed a hack job where they drilled a 2" hole in the side of a 3" stack for a shower drain & silicon-ed it, leaked like crazy. I just did a quick band aid repair with the sill & insulation to get it tight from the weather the I tore that all out this spring when I remodeled the bathroom all new plumbing, drain, pex for supply. insulated the pipes & wall repaired the sill. It's not often to cold in Northern Texas but we get some 20 degree weather sometimes. Never mind the zero degree temps a few years back. There's only so much you can do when dealing with temps that cold here, the city supply pipes are just not deep enough in the ground.
So former tub’s P-trap (and shower to be) is in the dirt way below, away from anyones reach? How do you know that is the case? Is that a regular plumbing practice? Bizarre!
This little ruclips.net/user/postUgkxVoi3B4CB6Oygq1-vo4OTL1M_M5JkrXif tub works perfect in our 6 x 6 shower and is easy to get in and out. Also easy to drain.
Frankly, I don't see any reason that a shower would require 2 inch drain piping. Many operate from 1 1/2 inch piping so when the OP says "the hardest part of a slab floor is getting the drain configuration correct and increased to 2 inches from 1 1/2 inches", however one needs to realize that the piping that's hidden below the slab, the P-trap and so on, is only 1 1/2 inch because this was a Tub before this conversion. I plumbed mine all the way to the flange with 1 1/2 inch and coupled it to the 2 inch flange by using a 2 x 1 1/2 inch flush mount bushing inside the flange and a 1 1/2 street elbow into that.
Don’t ever do it this way. Take the time to do it right. Break floor and move trap. Shower drain should be directly above p trap. Doing it this way will cause slow drains and possibly a bubbly drain
First off the trap might be a foot or more below grade so no one will be digging that far...only to realize it feeds from a 4" main and now you need Y to reconfigure the whole thing, are you on drugs ??? Secondly code allows for drain to be up to 20inches away from trap. Thirdly no one will ever see your comment so not sure who you're warning 🤣
@@StarrTile reall plumbers that I learned from will dig down to trap no matter how far it is. Professionals do their work the right way not the convenient way. Yes 20 inches in height as to not make the ptrap empty when the water flows through it but still directly under the drain. (Again I’m speaking professionally not handy man I can do it cheaper special) and apparently someone did see my comment otherwise u wouldn’t have answered.. thank you for showing ur ignorance. Have a blessed day and hire professionals
@budizyzerhernandez8514 excuse me but I believe you showed your ignorance. Last thing 1st...I saw your comment because this is my channel for 14 years, so I get notifications and analytics, and I choose to respond, ignore, delete comments or ban you from making comments. And yes, even plumbers can & will follow path of least resistance to extend drain pipe up to 20inches away from trap, seen it...in fact a plumber showed me this method in 1988...yup, I've done plumbing longer than tile, and with 25 years building showers I'm confident I know both more than you 👍🏻👌🏼👋🏻
@@StarrTile wow what a communist threatening to shut down my freedom of speech. I don’t give a flying cow if it is ur channel ur giving ppl outdated and wrong info?? Going off things people taught u almost 30yrs ago. I have currently passed my plumbing test and know for a fact that the shit here won’t pass code.. period. So delete if u want block me if u wish it just shows how communistic and childish u really are. I bet u voted for Obama.
Because everything is the point depending on who is watching it, some people are really ignorant and other people are really bright, how would I know ??? How would you like it if you were really ignorant and then I skipped over stuff, you start asking questions in the comments section and I'd have to go back and forth answering every single one
Appreciate the video and your clear and concise explanations. You also do a great job of focusing on solutions rather than the problems. I have this job coming up. I’m still relatively new at it and this video helped me a great deal. Thank you.
Thank you sir, and thank you for your donation as well, much appreciated
Dude. I am 61 years old and no job. 04/20/24 and I am actually following you to fix my bathroom! thank you for the way you explain things. After watcthing so many people
. you are the BEST !!!!!!!
Don't know how my dad did it 30 years ago without...this! I needed this video!
I don't even need to know this but enjoy watching anyway. You always make things easy to understand and give out useful info....
And shower looks awesome
Thank you sir 👍
Never mind Bob, this video just answered my question. Thank you, your videos are very informative!
More power to you buddy. I don’t have the patience for things like this lol. I usually tell my customers “I’m not a plumber, I need the flange flush with the subfloor”.
I like mixing things up in my job, plus I have lots of patience on challenges👌
Such great explanation even for someone like me who understands very little. Now I was able to have my husband leave the fear behind and show him how you did it😊
Most educational video ever thankyou !!
Good video, lots of good professional tips. Plumbing is sometimes a real challenge, there is always options for fittings to get the job done, just want to mention Ive used a reciprocating saw the reaches into tight spaces which works really nice for cutting PVC pipe, if you make a few slices into the edge of a fitting then uses a good HT heat gun you can actually peal away the fittings with out damaging the pipe or fitting you need to remain usable. this can be really helpful
As always great video and very knowledgeable. Ive been watching you for years. I noticed you stated that a plumber would never take the time to break out the concrete and replace that improper 1.5" trap. As a plumber myself i always take the extra time to do it the proper way (as the UPC book specifically states that you cant reduce the rated size of a fixture trap). Showers need to flow 2" for a reason including flooding purposes. But i also recognize that cheap customers don't want to spend extra money sometimes and sometimes it just ain't in the bid! (: Much respect for the effort and time you put into teaching us!!
Much respect, and I can appreciate where you're coming from, what I'm suggesting is that they're probably wouldn't be many plumbers that would go below grade to get to that P-trap because that's where it would be, but of course plumbers make six figures a year so I suppose you will still do what you need to do.
But yes of course GPM that flows through a bathtub is much more than would be a shower but of course we have a shower curb that's extremely short compared to the size of a bathtub.... I've just never heard of a shower overflowing from the curb because the pipe was too small, that's just my personal take on it.
Thanks for watching and thanks for the comment ✌🏻👌🏻
First of all your video four years ago really helped me do my first walk-in shower I believe you’re the only one that actually did it right on all the DIY RUclips videos that I saw. Regarding the 2 inch drain reducing to 1 1/2 I believe this could be a problem, as with a tub you You step out you pull the plug your tub drains in the timing it takes to drain. When you’re taking a shower if the drain can’t accommodate the GPM you’re going to be standing in a couple inches of water regardless if it goes over the curb or not, it’s not a comfortable feeling to stand in gray water while taking your shower. Just saying. I’m going to do this conversion and I’m a little concerned on when I did the first tub install over 20 years ago, where my 1.5 inch drain connects to the 2 inch to 2 inch. I Guess I will find out when I pull the tub and check. But I can definitely see through the access panel that it is definitely a 1.5 inch P-trap.
That looks great for people going tub to shower. But I'm going the other way: want to put a short bathtub onto a shower (without yanking that out). Is that possible?? Thank you.
Thanks this is just what I needed!
Thanks mate for the video
You can heat pvc and make custom bends.
Thanks 👍
Man I would like to transform my bath like u did,with just a finger flip 😂😂
Right ??? Wish it was that easy
@@timtoolman6442 10 days later 😂
You're a star
I almost have the same problem but instead of 3" I have 2" to the drain base. Can I use 1/2" cement backboard on the floor area to gain 1/2" and them floor mud to level the whole floor?
Very nice job,
Thanks 👌
Great job! Got a question... if I use Dennshield tile backer for my walls do you think it’s necessary to put a couple coats of redgard on it? I’m already buying a gallon to waterproof the floor and I don’t want it to go to waste. Is waterproofing the densshield an extra layer of protection or will it create a mold sandwich?
Denshield is waterproof...but edges and fasteners still need mud or caulk and waterproofing
Great vid.
I recently asked this on one of your other videos my concrete slab is stained do I need to strip the stain off in order to use thinset and mud pack for my shower pan
No
@@StarrTile so just any old thinset and mud right ontop of the concrete? Will work just as good?
Sir, Don't you think that using a straight 90 will cause problems in the future? It might be not possible to snake. Thank you for the answer.
So as I mentioned in the video it is not good to have straight 90s, you want sweeping 90s as I also mentioned @10:50... however in this case it wasn't possible but at the end there was a sweeping 90 at the drain. And any plumber will have different cable sizes for their snake in the extreme rare case they need to clear a p-trap
I did this exact conversion but the show isn't draining well. I thinking its due to poor venting.
Reworking tub to shower drain always a challenge it seems. You never know how the original install is situated.
You don’t need to add space between slab and flange for a pre slope? You usually leave concrete leveled when you put liner?
I don't do pre slopes...and you waterproof surface of pan and walls making pre slope obsolete
@@StarrTile Thank you.
I’ve recently installed a new shower drain.
Before i concrete it in, will it be an issue if the drain housing is an 1/8” lower than the existing concrete slab?
You could have considered the reduction in size on your horizontal section, you kept trying to force it in the vertical section
Is the PVC pipe/fittings for the new shower line schedule 40 or 80?
40
Also when installing my drain do I need a pea trap in the drain as well?
Yes...but tub to shower conversion it'll already be there below grade
@@StarrTile thank you very much for the advice
@@StarrTile one more question if I mortar my pan to a concrete slab do I need to use self leveler first?
@@samdaniel5703 you are not mortaring your pan to concrete, there will still be a waterproofer or liner or something, you have a lot more research to do it appears
@@StarrTile OK thank you
Is there a p trap further down the line Bob?
Yes...always
l'm just here for that intro tune...🥳😚
Do you need to add a vent to that?
It's already vented below-grade
Haha😂 I'm not going to run into crappy home builder screw ups. You've never worked in Louisiana, where the lazy building inspectors don't inspect work done outside the city limits. That pipe job looked like an opps moment. Here, you'd have more WTF were they thinking moments.
In Texas too. I had two 3" stack drains both leaking, one was cracked, my guess is a limb may have hit the stack on the roof, I had to peal the exterior siding & sheathing cut to reveal the area, found a Tee that had a big crack, silicon-ed & duct taped! then 12 feet down the wall wear a water supply froze I had to do an emergency fix on, found that someone had been into the wall already, (sheathing cut) sill rotted & non existent, cold air pouring in the wall, some bonehead again performed a hack job where they drilled a 2" hole in the side of a 3" stack for a shower drain & silicon-ed it, leaked like crazy. I just did a quick band aid repair with the sill & insulation to get it tight from the weather the I tore that all out this spring when I remodeled the bathroom all new plumbing, drain, pex for supply. insulated the pipes & wall repaired the sill. It's not often to cold in Northern Texas but we get some 20 degree weather sometimes. Never mind the zero degree temps a few years back. There's only so much you can do when dealing with temps that cold here, the city supply pipes are just not deep enough in the ground.
No P Trap? I didn’t see one
On concrete slabs they are always below grade
So former tub’s P-trap (and shower to be) is in the dirt way below, away from anyones reach? How do you know that is the case? Is that a regular plumbing practice? Bizarre!
He knows because it's always the case on a slab
This house must have been built in the 70s, my house had all the nightmare plumbing angles, I was fxxxxx like chuck as well.
@@matthewbegin3462 😂😂😂
@splanzza... What Tim said, always p-trap in the dirt under slabs
@@timtoolman6442 it’s actually not always the case, there might not be a p-trap in there at all. It should have been dug up completely to check.
This little ruclips.net/user/postUgkxVoi3B4CB6Oygq1-vo4OTL1M_M5JkrXif tub works perfect in our 6 x 6 shower and is easy to get in and out. Also easy to drain.
Frankly, I don't see any reason that a shower would require 2 inch drain piping. Many operate from 1 1/2 inch piping so when the OP says "the hardest part of a slab floor is getting the drain configuration correct and increased to 2 inches from 1 1/2 inches", however one needs to realize that the piping that's hidden below the slab, the P-trap and so on, is only 1 1/2 inch because this was a Tub before this conversion. I plumbed mine all the way to the flange with 1 1/2 inch and coupled it to the 2 inch flange by using a 2 x 1 1/2 inch flush mount bushing inside the flange and a 1 1/2 street elbow into that.
Don’t ever do it this way. Take the time to do it right. Break floor and move trap. Shower drain should be directly above p trap. Doing it this way will cause slow drains and possibly a bubbly drain
First off the trap might be a foot or more below grade so no one will be digging that far...only to realize it feeds from a 4" main and now you need Y to reconfigure the whole thing, are you on drugs ???
Secondly code allows for drain to be up to 20inches away from trap.
Thirdly no one will ever see your comment so not sure who you're warning 🤣
@@StarrTile reall plumbers that I learned from will dig down to trap no matter how far it is. Professionals do their work the right way not the convenient way. Yes 20 inches in height as to not make the ptrap empty when the water flows through it but still directly under the drain. (Again I’m speaking professionally not handy man I can do it cheaper special) and apparently someone did see my comment otherwise u wouldn’t have answered.. thank you for showing ur ignorance. Have a blessed day and hire professionals
@budizyzerhernandez8514 excuse me but I believe you showed your ignorance.
Last thing 1st...I saw your comment because this is my channel for 14 years, so I get notifications and analytics, and I choose to respond, ignore, delete comments or ban you from making comments.
And yes, even plumbers can & will follow path of least resistance to extend drain pipe up to 20inches away from trap, seen it...in fact a plumber showed me this method in 1988...yup, I've done plumbing longer than tile, and with 25 years building showers I'm confident I know both more than you 👍🏻👌🏼👋🏻
@@StarrTile wow what a communist threatening to shut down my freedom of speech. I don’t give a flying cow if it is ur channel ur giving ppl outdated and wrong info?? Going off things people taught u almost 30yrs ago. I have currently passed my plumbing test and know for a fact that the shit here won’t pass code.. period. So delete if u want block me if u wish it just shows how communistic and childish u really are. I bet u voted for Obama.
Sir,you talk too much, why you just go to the point?
Because everything is the point depending on who is watching it, some people are really ignorant and other people are really bright, how would I know ???
How would you like it if you were really ignorant and then I skipped over stuff, you start asking questions in the comments section and I'd have to go back and forth answering every single one