Hey everyone! I've had a couple of people point out how my comments about the prologue can be perceived as me saying Navani deserves abuse. That was not at all what I meant, but absolutely understand how it can come across that way. Though this isn't at all an excuse, I had more meant my comment the same way I jokingly say, "Ugh, I hate this character, I hope they die," over something that by no means deserves death. Again, that doesn't change the fact that this came across the way it did! I have a lot of experience and trauma surrounding abuse and do not condone it or victim blaming. Thank you to those that pointed this out to me.
Ugh same. I came here (not liking kal) but offering an olive branch. Agreeing that Kal had some great moments here. And clearly shouldn't expect the same >_< The biased is strong with this one lol She can't even give Adolin or Dalinar the moments they deserve >_
I suppose this is unpopular, but as someone with a funny and adorable mental rock of a partner who has kept me from some really dark places, Adolin is literally my favorite character in SA.
Adolin reminds me more and more of my husband with how he handles Shallan’s instabilities. My hubby is also the stable rock to my unstable chaos. As a result, Adolin is quickly becoming my favorite character. 🥰
my thoughts: 1- I cried when I heard the name of the flying thing. 2- I cried when Moash was trying to convince Kal to die (I also cursed a lot) 3- I cried again when Dalinar retired Kaladin 4- When Adolin asked Kal if he should be alone.... damn, that was just a VERY powerful scene 5- I love how the Three are being written. And I laugh everytime I see Adolin trying to manage that. I just love seeing their relationship, it is very interesting to me 6- Vasher fighting against Kal was just straight up dope! 7- I love all of the cosmere explaining that is happening.
I love that your're going to review every part seperately and that you're so enthusiastic about the book (cause that's exactly how I feel). Also, I agree with most of the points you made in your review, except that Adolin is one of my favorite characters. The chapter where he refuses to leave Kaladin alone was my favorite one in this part. Of course, your are right though, that Syl deserves the credit for getting Adolin in the first place. I laughed at her exchange with Kaladin afterwards, when she explained that there were at best three people Kaladin would have listened to and going to the queen wouldn't have been so good.
I thought I was gonna like Leshwi as a villain the most. But she didnt get as much page time and Raboniel ended up being far more interesting and compelling of a villain. Honestly both are better than the pursuer. Hes so generic and weak. And his power is the worst.
I think there might more plans for Rock in the future. He told everyone not to expect him to come back or something, but never said he would explicitly die which is what was implied. This might just be Brandon not wanting to get people upset over a dead Rock, but that doesn't seem like his style, so he might be tucking Rock away somewhere to bring back in the future. Maybe he gets sent into the water pools in the horneater peaks and banished into Shadesmar, because I think there is a perpendicularity there?
Despite being on opposite sides of a war, they always treat each other with respect and share a love of flying. More than you can say for most Kal ships where, despite being on the same side, people tend to treat him with overt distain. I understand that people's relationships change but first impressions still matter. The two biggest ships for Kal are either with the guy who said he'd throw Kal out a window for literally no reason if it weren't for the fact that Kal saved his life or the girl who was so thrilled with herself for punishing Kal's (accurate) suspicion of her story by stealing his boots that she literally inadvertently summoned literal spiritual manifestations of joy and then had the _gall_ to refer to herself as "kind" for having a _fleeting_ moment of guilt for what she did.
@@typhoonzebra right?! Shalladin went downhill for me the moment they interacted. I get it was supposed to be goofy and funny and now the whole boots thing is a running joke but frankly I was unamused lmao. But aaaah, a guilty part of me kinda ships Adolin and Kaladin. I'm sorry, can't help it. But yeah, I'm totally rooting for Leshwi and Kal now. Boy deserves some love 😌
Perfect timing. I just finished Part One an hour ago and I’m currently reading the second chapter of Part 2. I’m having so much fun. Now onto my thoughts about Part 1: 1. Finally, Sanderson is introducing Fused as REAL villains. The Fused in Oathbringer weren’t terrifying at all. But the introduction of those two new Fused who mean business, one is ruthless, another is unstable. 2. I took close to an hour reading the interaction between Vasher and Kaladin. I had to savor in it because Vasher made it clear that “I am not from this world” and I enjoyed the same technical explanation he gave Vivenna is the same one he gave Kaladin. “Boy, she fights LIKE ME”. Vasher is DA BOSS!!!!!!!!! 3. I love the direction we’re going with Kaladin in this book. All his Part One chapters were just intense and Sanderson really portrays depression and anxiety with such grace and agility. 4. Let’s get this out of the way quickly- Formless will come up eventually, this isn’t healthy for Shallan at all and I’m so glad Adolin acknowledged that it is eating her up from the inside. So excited to see where the Shadesmar sequence takes us. The way you dislike Adolin is so FUNNY. I don’t even feel bad because I really like Adolin but the way you dislike Adolin that for every good thing he supposedly does, you find something against him. 😂😂😂 Anyway, great editing, and you didn’t answer the biggest elephant in the room from your previous ROW video, is it your favorite Stormlight book?
It’s tied for number one with WoK! Haha, I’m glad my Adolin annoyance is amusing 😂 I will definitely make a joke of it in the later chats A LOT, but hopefully everyone will know I’m just trolling 😆
This first part made me cry so many times 😭, and feel nauseous at the chapter 10 gut punch. I completely agree, this first part really set the high stakes tension to make me apprehensive over what waa going to go down in the rest of the book. "What's up with Wit and Jasnah?", I bloody called it and I love it 🤣. Wit is my favourite. So much of the comedy written for him is sooooooo damn funny!
The way you feel about Kaladin is how I feel about Shallan. She is my favorite character in all of Stormlight. I love love love where her character is going in this installment in the series.
Love your chapter by chapter format. Really helps me as I'm still processing this huge volume and there are things I want to go back too, but forgot where they happened. Keep it up!
I feel like my opinion of characters are almost the opposite of yours and it’s hilarious. I like Kaladin but of the 3 major viewpoint characters he is my least favorite. I adore Adolin even if he is a little clueless at times. I also think that I have a different read on the Shallan situation. I think she is doing better than Oathbringer in part one but that signs of a backslide are definitely there. Love the vid.
I'm just now reading Way of Kings, I'm on part 2 chapter 15. So I won't be able to watch this for a while. I'm so glad I finally picked it up, it is AMAZING so far!! ❤📚
9:59 OH GOD, THANK YOU. I thought I was the only one who was pissed at him. Others kept admiring his decision and wisdom and stuff, and I was just there FUMING. Also, I totally subscribed ;)
I clicked on this video automatically, seeing it in my feed, without really reading the whole title and about a minute in I was like - OMG, spoilers! LOL. I'll have to come back later for the rest. Peace.
I just started RoW and I'm incredibly happy about the fact that you decided to do the spoiler chats in five parts :D. I'm looking forward to checking out the rest of them once I've finished the next parts in the book.
I'm watching this on silent coz you're my go to for Sanderson and I want to give all the support to my favorite creators, lol, but I don't want spoilers so I'll watch it for realsies in a week after I've read ROW
Part One Adolin just re-affirmed all my feelings about him. I can't wait to watch the next parts of the review to see how your opinion on him might change.
Dalinar was in a bad situation with Kaladin. From the book, it seems clear that the Windrunners are only just getting to a point where they can act on their own without Kaladin, so I assume Dalinar was waiting for the first moment where he could pull Kaladin out without crippling the rest of the unit. That said, I agree that ideally they would've discussed it sooner.
I just finished part one this morning, and I agree with your opinion on Shallan and Adolin, I am sorry to say this, but they are so cringe together it is kind of painful to read about them. What is happening to Kaladin makes sense but at the same time it makes me sad to see him so sad, but the depiction of depression is spot on. I loved Venli's perspective, I found it refreshing and what we are learning about the Fused and their plans is very interesting. Great video by the way!
Interesting! I totally disagree. I really like where Adolin’s and Shallan’s relationship is going. However, I’m in part 4 or something so maybe your opinion will change as you read.
"Am I the only who's getting Final Fantasy vibes now?" NOW? We started the series with people fighting Giant Enemy Crabs in Anime Mecha Armor, complete with Laser-sword equivalents. And that's the nerfed version of both! It's been pretty wild from the get-go, although admittedly this is the introduction of Airships specifically, even if the "airship" is more of a "levitating barge" that "flies" mostly through smoke, mirrors, and a literal army of engineers and chulls.
I love that you're doing this by part! My book just arrived last night so I'm excited that I can keep up with these videos as they come out. I feel like you care about all the same characters I do and we're annoyed by the same people so this is really fun 😂
Thanks for sharing. In Dalinar’s defence, it does seem that the science on how to treat ‘battle shock’ at that stage was misdirected (non existent?). So while he may have seen others with the experience before, not pulling Kaladin aside to chat it out might be forgiven. At least he didn’t order Kaladin the usually prescribed treatment of blacked out underground cell!
Dalinar didn’t talk to Kal sooner because Kal is so crucial to the war effort: he single handedly resurrected a dead branch of Radiants by himself without the help of a herald. He was weighing the cost/benefits. The effect of pulling Kal out of command would have a huge impact on the Windrunners and there isn’t anyone who can fight like him. Understandable when you’re a general looking out for the best of the army rather than the a single person. Stills makes me mad that he waited, but it’s understandable.
Hooray I finally finished it! Now I can binge all of these spoilers. (I wish I knew o could have watched these as I read lol. I didn't put together your parts aligning with the book parts) This is such a good format. But the book has blurred together so much I couldn't review it the same.
The new fused... Teleporting.... So badass. Kal bringin it as always. Shallan is ... confused and that formless thing was not good. Moash, what a total traitor and blight. They should call him the blighted one. Just so wrong in so many ways. That Scene with him and Kal / through Dalinar taking him off duty just broke my bitsy heart. Lol. Adolin is one hellova friend. And a great guy overall. Vasher/Zihel fighting Kal was hugely cool. Dead man walking eh? More info plz. I read Warbreaker but hopefully we see more about this later. Venli and the fused ... Sigh. Such contradicted little singer people. Just saying. Kal doing the surgeon thing again is probably good. Let that trauma chill for a bit and just try and heal even a little. I love the Mink and the Dalinar Jasna dznamic. Glad she's not backing down but also forward thinking and letting people have their say. Also Taravanjan (will double check spelling maybe lol) is a real piece of work. Just saying. Peace and enjoy the rhythms everyone.
God, just finished it. I never take this long to read a book but parts 2 and 3 were soooooo slow that I took a break. I really thought the series had kinda lost its footing. Then I read parts 4-5. Those sections may be the greatest pages in any cosmere novel so far. Holy shit that made up for the slog. Not to say parts 2-3 were "bad"...it just felt like an endless cycle of Navani talking to the sibling, Shallan talking to Veil and Radiant to the point she almost became a parody of her split self. Adolin being unrealistical in NEVER even slightly teasing her about it and taking it fully seriously. Kaladin sneaking around the tower. Dalinar's chapters kicked ass but there were very few. The interludes are ALWAYS great, even going back to book one.
Taravangian at the end of the book was so unexpected. I was literally shaking for hours because you know for a fact that he's gonna pull some shit in book 5.
I had the exact same reactions ahah ! When Kaladin hurts I hurt ! And yeah Dalinar did NOT handle it well ! Kaladin gave him fake smiles 3 times and Dalinar saw nothing ! Thank God Syl and Adolin were there !!
It amazes me how my thoughts on Kaladin's parts are very identical to yours! I don't know anyone who reads or have read these books so I always look forward to your videos - it's the closest I'll get to "chatting" with someone about it haha!
Ah, well happy to have you here! There are lots of great discords that booktubers have where people chat about books, if you ever need another fun, bookish place 😄
Ok is anyone else super interested in how similar Renarins powers(what he did to Moash) are to Gold and Malatium from Mistborn? There's def some weird temporal stuff going on there, and I think it's something unique to Renarin's corrupted Truthwatcher status... Also, Jasnah and Wit?????? I need more info!
I agree with the Dalinar-Kaladin problem. Even one time is too many, you NEED soldiers who will never freeze otherwise it only takes 2 seconds and everyone is done.
Well Kaladin is mopey :P Also i think I will need someone to point out all the cosmere connections so far cause i feel like i'm missing something here...and it's not breath. 1- Ahh so you meant from Oathbringer, but i didn't notice Navani treating Evi poorly...except maybe when she told Dalinar Evi wasn't book smart? 2- Well that's exactly what he's saying, he would've pulled any soldier out long before, but he trusts Kaladin and wanted to give him the time to figure things out by himself. He maybe even hoped a relationship would help. 3- Poor Adolin, he's done nothing to deserve such hatred. 4- Well Hoid did tell Jasnah the truth about who the voidbringers actually are so they've been close, but i doubt it's....sexual. 5- How can none of them think that imprisoning spren is bad?! It's the exact same thing they did to parshmen, they assumed their lack of intelligence meant it's alright to enslave them...i am fuming. 6- So Szeth is in a prison he can escape at any moment if he wishes to. I guess it's meant as a proof that he'll do whatever Dalinar wants..which can be dangerous, Dalinar is just a man after all. 7- Wait, why did they not catch Moash? I gotta go back for that. 8- Ok so if the sibling is a deadeye and Maya is a deadeye, if Adolin finds out how to restore her they can restore Sibling? 9- Doubt anyone's still reading....
I'm not even a huge fan of bridge 4 and kal but I LOVE the name of the skyship and that the bridge was in it. And I totally see final fantasy vibes. Multiple worlds with different magic systems! Huge FF vibes
Elliott, my fanboy gush matches your fangirl gush over this entire series so PERFECTLY! Hmm, maybe why I love your content so much! I will say, more than any other SA book, RoW made me dislike Lirin HARD. Which made me sad because I loved him even harder in WoK. I also never liked the Shallon/Adolin pairing. In fact, until this book, I never much liked Adolin at all! But after how he treated his "dead-eye" shard by wanting to protect her, I like him so much more! btw...how DARE you try to make us choose between our favorite spren? I love them so much! Syl and Pattern, AND Wendle have to be three of my all time favorite side characters!! Ok, onto part two of your EXCELLENT RoW spoiler chat!
I think I actually flinched when I read that line from Dalinar about removing Kaladin from battle. Every Kaladin chapter so far has been a kick in the stomach it seems, but I am really interested to see where this goes- and more of his family dynamic. I don't think Kal will be doing the surgeon thing for too long with his dad, but I'm still kinda excited to see more with his family.
Rhythm of War has been great so far! I'm a bit behind as I haven't had that much reading time since launch day but I should be getting to Part 3 tonight.
I'm slowly making my way through this. Work sucks. Anyways, so glad you broke this up into parts. So much is going on I'm like 'wait a minute, wait a minute who's that again? Shallan has HOW many personalities? Moash did what now?! Who the hell is Leshwi and whhhaatt?' But yeah thank you
I love how even though a lot of your opinions are unpopular you don’t hold back at all, it’s very refreshing, so tired of people always trying to analyze everything instead of expressing their feelings nowadays.
Hey Elliot, was just wondering if you plan on doing another video talking about all the connections to the cosmere? Just finished reading it and the hype for book 5 is real, can't wait to watch the rest of your videos to hear your thoughts on it :D
Ahh thanks for this! I just finished RoW and am sliding into a bit of post-book-depression. I feel like there are things I may have missed though so a reread may be in order....
At the very beginning when Kaladin was sad and stressed and tired and everyone kept checking on him I kept thinking will someone please stage an intervention for this guy, he needs to step aside. His family, friends and boss are all here, it’s the perfect time, someone talk to him please! So when Dalinar did tell him to step aside I was practically singing hallelujah! I know he was sad but it felt so necessary by that point that I felt someone should have said something sooner.
Kaladin’s dramatic entrance in the first chapter reminded me of Elend’s dramatic entrance at the beginning of Hero in Ages and i was excited to see how the rest of the story will progress 😁
This is so awesome! Will you do a reading "chat" that mentions the links to other books in the Stormlight universe? ie: the intertwining magic systems, characters, etc?
When will you talk about the Cosmere connections? I am totally excited for book 5. Sazed/Harmony making an appearance/Commentary was a great surprise. Wit said something about his "Breaths" with his memories being corrupted. I feel like I missed something in that scene. Wit is in for a bad time. The angle about getting Stormlight out of the Roshar system is really interesting. Major implications for Scadriel and the other planets. Finally bringing it all together!!! I always wondered how humans came to Roshar from another planet when the people obviously are not technologically advanced enough for space travel. The Answer was Amazing and it was there in book 1.
I'm a little late to this because I took a LOT of breaks while reading this book (and of course didn't want to spoil anything for myself before I finished the whole thing), and I'm so glad that I did. There were so many heart wrenching moments that I needed to break up my reading patterns for this one to give myself time in between to process (Kaladin being relived of duty and that whole thing with Moash right before that were big ones, I think I took break for a couple of days after that before I started reading again.)
Your reaction to chapter 10: I’ve had a few of those moments in RoW so far. My husband is just like “why are you such a dramatic reader?” 😂 He just finished Oathbringer last night though, and I have a feeling my reactions while reading is what started him reading the series in the first place. 🤪
I think that with the time jump between books 5 and 6, that Kaladin’s brother and Elhokar’s son will play a bigger role! At least that’s what I’m hoping!!
1. This whole war pretty much started with Gavel…and he’s an evil ass!!! 2. I’m sooo concerned that Shallon is NOT going to be able to keep herself under control…is she going to eff stuff up with Adolin?! She seems so unstable 3. Hot take: Kaladin and Leshwi Romeo/Juliette style romance? 4. THE WARBREAKER MAGIC!!! WB is my fav book
Gavilar was *such* an asshole in that prologue. Imagine being married to someone who wants to sleep with your brother, and *still being the worse person in that marriage.* How do you even manage that? I felt so bad for Gavilar being married to Navani as her obvious second choice all this time, until I read that prologue, and realized "wait, no, actually Gavilar is even worse, somehow I'm on Navani's side here." edit: and yeah, unlocking the Oathgates and the Airship for quick travel in the late game is SO Final Fantasy lol
thanks for the Dalinar bashing 😉 I was absolutely not OK when he made that decision. And yeah, it was a correct decision, but seriously delivery was wrong and just like hey, find yourself sth else to do rather than actually see how he could help Kaladin
Elliot: everytime I read shallan, I want to just get back to kaladin Me: everytime I read kaladin, I just want to get back to shallan. Part 3 was the worst for me because there was no shallan! I did love the chapters with kaladin and moash though 😭 oof! And the stuff with him be relieved of duty... Dalinar was so right though! (maybe they had talked before since there was a whole year between?) Kaladin as odiums champion oooo I like it! And you have to give adolin some credit! Syl knew that adolin was the person who was best for kal at that moment! And renarin is the best ❤️ Also part 1 definitely ended with a bang 😏😉
Despite reading the first three chapters, I still can't remember who or what the fused are. Mr Sanderson, you really need to give us a summary of what came before. I haven't had time to re-read the previous three books.
Everyone else: wow let's talk about the masterfully interwoven themes and character arcs that unfold in part 1! Elliot: Eh, Navani deserved her husband's abuse, I'd rather skip Shalan's parts, Adolin is still unbearable (even when helping Kal with his suicidal thoughts), Venli is uninteresting, but omg Kaladin is the best, I loved part 1 so much! Me: I... what?
I can relate to all your responses and emotions so much.. especially about chapter 11.. I was so lost in previous chapter that I just couldn't care.. but I do not agree with your thoughts about Dalinar's decision for kal or the way he did it.. nonetheless curious about szeth's and zahel's storyline.. thanks for the schedule.. it's perfect for my reading pace and will encourage me in case I am lagging behind 😂😂 (not likely though) P.S. Adolin is such a good guy.. He was so concerned about Kal and went out with / forced him to cheer him up . I hope you will like him more by the end of this series
@@ebnovels that’s actually really interesting that you hate Adolin. I grow to like Adolin every time I see him. It seems to me that you kinda irrationally hate him lol. Why don’t you like him?
@Kopal Gupta interesting! I suppose that’s reasonable, but if it’s the only reason it’s still irrational and generalizing. Adolin is a pretty cool guy despite being a prince. This debate is way too serious for the topic lol
Ok, i get it that if we someone wants to spoiler talk with me just watch this video she has the exact same reaction and experience, I mean totally Same.
Also, I keep thinking that maybe the whole "Wit and Jasnah" thing happened bcz we needed someone close enough to Wit to understand something might be wrong with him. That'd be quite interesting
Well....apparently I'm a heartless monster hahha I don't hate Kaladin, I'm just not invested into him for some reason. However, I'm liking where his arc is taking him (although I'm only 25% in so far)
@@ebnovels also this book got too emotional 🤧🤧 and i kno how u get while talking about ur fav char......... i really want to see u talk about kal's 4th oath, i mean that scene after all this time hits even harder then the first oath which was ur (and mine) no. 1 scene of the series. Ur contents super good keep it up 🙏
I honestly didn’t hate Moash until Part I of RoW. He knows Kaladin so well and knew just what to say to him to mess with his head. Sent Kaladin spiraling into an intense depression. Oh, how I hate Moash now 🤬
Why does nobody address the fact that Kal got releaved of duty due to his depression, meanwhile, Shallan gets a free pass while being super depressed and talking to herself and shit. Anyone wanna talk about that?
Hey everyone! I've had a couple of people point out how my comments about the prologue can be perceived as me saying Navani deserves abuse. That was not at all what I meant, but absolutely understand how it can come across that way. Though this isn't at all an excuse, I had more meant my comment the same way I jokingly say, "Ugh, I hate this character, I hope they die," over something that by no means deserves death. Again, that doesn't change the fact that this came across the way it did! I have a lot of experience and trauma surrounding abuse and do not condone it or victim blaming. Thank you to those that pointed this out to me.
"Wassup with Wit and Jasnah?" Glad to know I'm not the only one who thought that!
ELLIOT I WILL NOT STAND FOR THIS ADOLIN SLANDER
WILL YOU SIT?!?
BEGRUDGINGLY!!!
@@kirker87 This is how all arguments should go
Came to say the same thing lol.
Ugh same. I came here (not liking kal) but offering an olive branch. Agreeing that Kal had some great moments here. And clearly shouldn't expect the same >_<
The biased is strong with this one lol
She can't even give Adolin or Dalinar the moments they deserve >_
I suppose this is unpopular, but as someone with a funny and adorable mental rock of a partner who has kept me from some really dark places, Adolin is literally my favorite character in SA.
He's my favorite himbo
I agree with the himbo title 😂
@@ebnovels poor Adolin gets no credit. Fine I will keep him all to myself. :P
I'm with you on this one. Kaladin is too Shinji for me
Adolin reminds me more and more of my husband with how he handles Shallan’s instabilities. My hubby is also the stable rock to my unstable chaos. As a result, Adolin is quickly becoming my favorite character. 🥰
my thoughts:
1- I cried when I heard the name of the flying thing.
2- I cried when Moash was trying to convince Kal to die (I also cursed a lot)
3- I cried again when Dalinar retired Kaladin
4- When Adolin asked Kal if he should be alone.... damn, that was just a VERY powerful scene
5- I love how the Three are being written. And I laugh everytime I see Adolin trying to manage that. I just love seeing their relationship, it is very interesting to me
6- Vasher fighting against Kal was just straight up dope!
7- I love all of the cosmere explaining that is happening.
All of this. Exactly.
@S'arah Triel yea!! I forgot to write it down, but that hurt me too
Let’s not forget about rock...
@@ryangause6443 yeaaah, I'm sorry I did. But that scene broke my freaking heart
Alllll of the above
I love that your're going to review every part seperately and that you're so enthusiastic about the book (cause that's exactly how I feel).
Also, I agree with most of the points you made in your review, except that Adolin is one of my favorite characters. The chapter where he refuses to leave Kaladin alone was my favorite one in this part. Of course, your are right though, that Syl deserves the credit for getting Adolin in the first place. I laughed at her exchange with Kaladin afterwards, when she explained that there were at best three people Kaladin would have listened to and going to the queen wouldn't have been so good.
Oh yeah, Kaladin and Lyn. OFF SCREEN. WHEN IS THAT BOY GOING TO GET SOME LOVE
Yeah I yelled at Brandon a bit when Kaladin got a gf OFF SCREEN. BRANDON HOW COULD YOU
Right ? I can't beilieve he off screened that, so annoying.
I was emotional for the whole book. Lewshi is probably my favorite complicated villain.
I thought I was gonna like Leshwi as a villain the most. But she didnt get as much page time and Raboniel ended up being far more interesting and compelling of a villain.
Honestly both are better than the pursuer.
Hes so generic and weak. And his power is the worst.
Unpopular opinion: I grew to love Leshwi so much that I don't consider her a villain/antagonist. She IS a protagonist
@@ГеоргиПеев-й3ы protagonist is probably the wrong term. She is more likely an anti-hero or anti-villain.
Adolin is legit one of my favorite characters lol. I like him a lot.
I was so moved when Navani named the ship the Fourth Bridge. Also why did Rock have to leave? Poor Kaladin. And Moash is absolutely the worst!
Yes, yes, yes, and yes 😆😆😆
I think there might more plans for Rock in the future. He told everyone not to expect him to come back or something, but never said he would explicitly die which is what was implied. This might just be Brandon not wanting to get people upset over a dead Rock, but that doesn't seem like his style, so he might be tucking Rock away somewhere to bring back in the future. Maybe he gets sent into the water pools in the horneater peaks and banished into Shadesmar, because I think there is a perpendicularity there?
I think Rock might get a novella of his own 👀👀
"Whats up with Wit and Jasnah!?!" Honestly my exact same reaction. Are the a couple? Couple of bros? Who's to say. I need more POV from them!
Why do I ship Leshwi and Kaladin now?
Despite being on opposite sides of a war, they always treat each other with respect and share a love of flying. More than you can say for most Kal ships where, despite being on the same side, people tend to treat him with overt distain. I understand that people's relationships change but first impressions still matter.
The two biggest ships for Kal are either with the guy who said he'd throw Kal out a window for literally no reason if it weren't for the fact that Kal saved his life or the girl who was so thrilled with herself for punishing Kal's (accurate) suspicion of her story by stealing his boots that she literally inadvertently summoned literal spiritual manifestations of joy and then had the _gall_ to refer to herself as "kind" for having a _fleeting_ moment of guilt for what she did.
@@typhoonzebra right?! Shalladin went downhill for me the moment they interacted. I get it was supposed to be goofy and funny and now the whole boots thing is a running joke but frankly I was unamused lmao.
But aaaah, a guilty part of me kinda ships Adolin and Kaladin. I'm sorry, can't help it. But yeah, I'm totally rooting for Leshwi and Kal now. Boy deserves some love 😌
@@toastedmarshmallows6348 "a guilty part of me kinda ships Adolin and Kaladin" Brother what?
ayy my books hasn’t arrived yet but I can still watch this cause of the previews
Yay for the preview chapters! I hope you get your copy soon :D
Perfect timing. I just finished Part One an hour ago and I’m currently reading the second chapter of Part 2. I’m having so much fun. Now onto my thoughts about Part 1:
1. Finally, Sanderson is introducing Fused as REAL villains. The Fused in Oathbringer weren’t terrifying at all. But the introduction of those two new Fused who mean business, one is ruthless, another is unstable.
2. I took close to an hour reading the interaction between Vasher and Kaladin. I had to savor in it because Vasher made it clear that “I am not from this world” and I enjoyed the same technical explanation he gave Vivenna is the same one he gave Kaladin. “Boy, she fights LIKE ME”. Vasher is DA BOSS!!!!!!!!!
3. I love the direction we’re going with Kaladin in this book. All his Part One chapters were just intense and Sanderson really portrays depression and anxiety with such grace and agility.
4. Let’s get this out of the way quickly- Formless will come up eventually, this isn’t healthy for Shallan at all and I’m so glad Adolin acknowledged that it is eating her up from the inside. So excited to see where the Shadesmar sequence takes us.
The way you dislike Adolin is so FUNNY. I don’t even feel bad because I really like Adolin but the way you dislike Adolin that for every good thing he supposedly does, you find something against him. 😂😂😂
Anyway, great editing, and you didn’t answer the biggest elephant in the room from your previous ROW video, is it your favorite Stormlight book?
It’s tied for number one with WoK! Haha, I’m glad my Adolin annoyance is amusing 😂 I will definitely make a joke of it in the later chats A LOT, but hopefully everyone will know I’m just trolling 😆
This first part made me cry so many times 😭, and feel nauseous at the chapter 10 gut punch. I completely agree, this first part really set the high stakes tension to make me apprehensive over what waa going to go down in the rest of the book. "What's up with Wit and Jasnah?", I bloody called it and I love it 🤣. Wit is my favourite. So much of the comedy written for him is sooooooo damn funny!
I've never been so mad at a time jump as I am with this one, denying me scenes of Kaladin in a relationship.
Hahaha, we all want Kaladin to get a hug 😆
The way you feel about Kaladin is how I feel about Shallan. She is my favorite character in all of Stormlight. I love love love where her character is going in this installment in the series.
BUT ALSO. What IS up with Jasnah and Wit??
Same! I adore Shallan's (and Veil's and Radiant's) voice in this series.
Ma boi Kaladin...he is just so beat up in this part! I JUST WANT YOUBTO BE HAPPY, KAL!!!
The tension just kept building! What a great book, I enjoyed it!
That moment where you barfed when talking about adolin and shallan. Ugh it's exactly like that for me.
Love your chapter by chapter format. Really helps me as I'm still processing this huge volume and there are things I want to go back too, but forgot where they happened. Keep it up!
I feel like my opinion of characters are almost the opposite of yours and it’s hilarious. I like Kaladin but of the 3 major viewpoint characters he is my least favorite. I adore Adolin even if he is a little clueless at times. I also think that I have a different read on the Shallan situation. I think she is doing better than Oathbringer in part one but that signs of a backslide are definitely there. Love the vid.
Saaame.
I'm trying not to harp on how much she puts down adolin and shallan. And just gush with the parts we found mutually good lol
I'm just now reading Way of Kings, I'm on part 2 chapter 15. So I won't be able to watch this for a while. I'm so glad I finally picked it up, it is AMAZING so far!! ❤📚
Hurray!!! I’m so glad you’re enjoying it :D I loved book one.
I hope by now you're onto or finished with Rhythm of War!! The Stormlight Archive is such a wonderful series!!
9:59 OH GOD, THANK YOU. I thought I was the only one who was pissed at him. Others kept admiring his decision and wisdom and stuff, and I was just there FUMING.
Also, I totally subscribed ;)
Haha, well thank you. Also, love the username 💁🏻♀️
@@ebnovels aye, thanks!
I love that you broke down each chapter! Keep doing this for all of the books. So helpful!
I clicked on this video automatically, seeing it in my feed, without really reading the whole title and about a minute in I was like - OMG, spoilers! LOL. I'll have to come back later for the rest. Peace.
I just started RoW and I'm incredibly happy about the fact that you decided to do the spoiler chats in five parts :D. I'm looking forward to checking out the rest of them once I've finished the next parts in the book.
I'm watching this on silent coz you're my go to for Sanderson and I want to give all the support to my favorite creators, lol, but I don't want spoilers so I'll watch it for realsies in a week after I've read ROW
That’s so kind of you!!! Thank you for that 💕
Part One Adolin just re-affirmed all my feelings about him. I can't wait to watch the next parts of the review to see how your opinion on him might change.
Dalinar was in a bad situation with Kaladin. From the book, it seems clear that the Windrunners are only just getting to a point where they can act on their own without Kaladin, so I assume Dalinar was waiting for the first moment where he could pull Kaladin out without crippling the rest of the unit. That said, I agree that ideally they would've discussed it sooner.
I just finished part one this morning, and I agree with your opinion on Shallan and Adolin, I am sorry to say this, but they are so cringe together it is kind of painful to read about them.
What is happening to Kaladin makes sense but at the same time it makes me sad to see him so sad, but the depiction of depression is spot on.
I loved Venli's perspective, I found it refreshing and what we are learning about the Fused and their plans is very interesting.
Great video by the way!
Thank you! And yes, Kaladin’s depression is so well done. There are so many tabs from lines about mental health 😩
Interesting! I totally disagree. I really like where Adolin’s and Shallan’s relationship is going. However, I’m in part 4 or something so maybe your opinion will change as you read.
@@belalaloca I just started part 3, so I am not there yet, but I hope I am going to change my mind. We'll see :)
"Am I the only who's getting Final Fantasy vibes now?"
NOW? We started the series with people fighting Giant Enemy Crabs in Anime Mecha Armor, complete with Laser-sword equivalents. And that's the nerfed version of both!
It's been pretty wild from the get-go, although admittedly this is the introduction of Airships specifically, even if the "airship" is more of a "levitating barge" that "flies" mostly through smoke, mirrors, and a literal army of engineers and chulls.
I love that you're doing this by part! My book just arrived last night so I'm excited that I can keep up with these videos as they come out. I feel like you care about all the same characters I do and we're annoyed by the same people so this is really fun 😂
This is so off-topic but your makeup is stunning!
Thanks for sharing. In Dalinar’s defence, it does seem that the science on how to treat ‘battle shock’ at that stage was misdirected (non existent?). So while he may have seen others with the experience before, not pulling Kaladin aside to chat it out might be forgiven. At least he didn’t order Kaladin the usually prescribed treatment of blacked out underground cell!
Dalinar didn’t talk to Kal sooner because Kal is so crucial to the war effort: he single handedly resurrected a dead branch of Radiants by himself without the help of a herald. He was weighing the cost/benefits. The effect of pulling Kal out of command would have a huge impact on the Windrunners and there isn’t anyone who can fight like him. Understandable when you’re a general looking out for the best of the army rather than the a single person.
Stills makes me mad that he waited, but it’s understandable.
Hooray I finally finished it! Now I can binge all of these spoilers.
(I wish I knew o could have watched these as I read lol. I didn't put together your parts aligning with the book parts)
This is such a good format. But the book has blurred together so much I couldn't review it the same.
The new fused... Teleporting.... So badass. Kal bringin it as always.
Shallan is ... confused and that formless thing was not good.
Moash, what a total traitor and blight. They should call him the blighted one. Just so wrong in so many ways. That Scene with him and Kal / through Dalinar taking him off duty just broke my bitsy heart. Lol. Adolin is one hellova friend. And a great guy overall. Vasher/Zihel fighting Kal was hugely cool. Dead man walking eh? More info plz. I read Warbreaker but hopefully we see more about this later.
Venli and the fused ... Sigh. Such contradicted little singer people. Just saying.
Kal doing the surgeon thing again is probably good. Let that trauma chill for a bit and just try and heal even a little.
I love the Mink and the Dalinar Jasna dznamic. Glad she's not backing down but also forward thinking and letting people have their say. Also Taravanjan (will double check spelling maybe lol) is a real piece of work. Just saying.
Peace and enjoy the rhythms everyone.
God, just finished it. I never take this long to read a book but parts 2 and 3 were soooooo slow that I took a break. I really thought the series had kinda lost its footing.
Then I read parts 4-5. Those sections may be the greatest pages in any cosmere novel so far. Holy shit that made up for the slog.
Not to say parts 2-3 were "bad"...it just felt like an endless cycle of Navani talking to the sibling, Shallan talking to Veil and Radiant to the point she almost became a parody of her split self. Adolin being unrealistical in NEVER even slightly teasing her about it and taking it fully seriously. Kaladin sneaking around the tower. Dalinar's chapters kicked ass but there were very few.
The interludes are ALWAYS great, even going back to book one.
Taravangian at the end of the book was so unexpected. I was literally shaking for hours because you know for a fact that he's gonna pull some shit in book 5.
I had the exact same reactions ahah ! When Kaladin hurts I hurt !
And yeah Dalinar did NOT handle it well ! Kaladin gave him fake smiles 3 times and Dalinar saw nothing ! Thank God Syl and Adolin were there !!
I haven’t checked yet but do you have a video where you talk about the Cosmere connections???
Yes, the Dalinar/Kal scene was not an example of great leadership.
It amazes me how my thoughts on Kaladin's parts are very identical to yours! I don't know anyone who reads or have read these books so I always look forward to your videos - it's the closest I'll get to "chatting" with someone about it haha!
Ah, well happy to have you here! There are lots of great discords that booktubers have where people chat about books, if you ever need another fun, bookish place 😄
Ok is anyone else super interested in how similar Renarins powers(what he did to Moash) are to Gold and Malatium from Mistborn? There's def some weird temporal stuff going on there, and I think it's something unique to Renarin's corrupted Truthwatcher status... Also, Jasnah and Wit?????? I need more info!
Jasnah and Wit was SO UNEXPECTED!?! I was thrown when it was mentioned that they were close.
I agree with the Dalinar-Kaladin problem. Even one time is too many, you NEED soldiers who will never freeze otherwise it only takes 2 seconds and everyone is done.
Well Kaladin is mopey :P
Also i think I will need someone to point out all the cosmere connections so far cause i feel like i'm missing something here...and it's not breath.
1- Ahh so you meant from Oathbringer, but i didn't notice Navani treating Evi poorly...except maybe when she told Dalinar Evi wasn't book smart?
2- Well that's exactly what he's saying, he would've pulled any soldier out long before, but he trusts Kaladin and wanted to give him the time to figure things out by himself. He maybe even hoped a relationship would help.
3- Poor Adolin, he's done nothing to deserve such hatred.
4- Well Hoid did tell Jasnah the truth about who the voidbringers actually are so they've been close, but i doubt it's....sexual.
5- How can none of them think that imprisoning spren is bad?! It's the exact same thing they did to parshmen, they assumed their lack of intelligence meant it's alright to enslave them...i am fuming.
6- So Szeth is in a prison he can escape at any moment if he wishes to. I guess it's meant as a proof that he'll do whatever Dalinar wants..which can be dangerous, Dalinar is just a man after all.
7- Wait, why did they not catch Moash? I gotta go back for that.
8- Ok so if the sibling is a deadeye and Maya is a deadeye, if Adolin finds out how to restore her they can restore Sibling?
9- Doubt anyone's still reading....
I'm not even a huge fan of bridge 4 and kal but I LOVE the name of the skyship and that the bridge was in it.
And I totally see final fantasy vibes. Multiple worlds with different magic systems! Huge FF vibes
Elliott, my fanboy gush matches your fangirl gush over this entire series so PERFECTLY! Hmm, maybe why I love your content so much!
I will say, more than any other SA book, RoW made me dislike Lirin HARD. Which made me sad because I loved him even harder in WoK.
I also never liked the Shallon/Adolin pairing. In fact, until this book, I never much liked Adolin at all! But after how he treated his "dead-eye" shard by wanting to protect her, I like him so much more!
btw...how DARE you try to make us choose between our favorite spren? I love them so much! Syl and Pattern, AND Wendle have to be three of my all time favorite side characters!!
Ok, onto part two of your EXCELLENT RoW spoiler chat!
I still have some 4-5 hrs until i finish part one so i'll prolly watch this tomorrow. Can't wait to get into it!
Hurray! I hope you enjoy it 😄
I think I actually flinched when I read that line from Dalinar about removing Kaladin from battle. Every Kaladin chapter so far has been a kick in the stomach it seems, but I am really interested to see where this goes- and more of his family dynamic. I don't think Kal will be doing the surgeon thing for too long with his dad, but I'm still kinda excited to see more with his family.
Thanks for the part by part reviews. It is keeping me going through this book that is not my favorite so far.
Perfect timing, finished part one this morning!!
4:42 "And then, Moash!" Lol love it.
Rhythm of War has been great so far! I'm a bit behind as I haven't had that much reading time since launch day but I should be getting to Part 3 tonight.
I'm slowly making my way through this. Work sucks.
Anyways, so glad you broke this up into parts. So much is going on I'm like 'wait a minute, wait a minute who's that again? Shallan has HOW many personalities?
Moash did what now?!
Who the hell is Leshwi and whhhaatt?'
But yeah thank you
I love how even though a lot of your opinions are unpopular you don’t hold back at all, it’s very refreshing, so tired of people always trying to analyze everything instead of expressing their feelings nowadays.
Anyone ever mention the cameos of characters from other books like warbreaker and mistborn? I always love seeing how he puts them in.
I LOVE finding worldhoppers! It’s what has sucked me into Cosmere so deep. 🤓
Hey Elliot, was just wondering if you plan on doing another video talking about all the connections to the cosmere? Just finished reading it and the hype for book 5 is real, can't wait to watch the rest of your videos to hear your thoughts on it :D
Ahh thanks for this! I just finished RoW and am sliding into a bit of post-book-depression. I feel like there are things I may have missed though so a reread may be in order....
Chapter 12 was my favourite chapter in the book. Seeing Kaladin choose to accept help hit me really hard.
At the very beginning when Kaladin was sad and stressed and tired and everyone kept checking on him I kept thinking will someone please stage an intervention for this guy, he needs to step aside. His family, friends and boss are all here, it’s the perfect time, someone talk to him please! So when Dalinar did tell him to step aside I was practically singing hallelujah! I know he was sad but it felt so necessary by that point that I felt someone should have said something sooner.
Kaladin’s dramatic entrance in the first chapter reminded me of Elend’s dramatic entrance at the beginning of Hero in Ages and i was excited to see how the rest of the story will progress 😁
This is so awesome! Will you do a reading "chat" that mentions the links to other books in the Stormlight universe? ie: the intertwining magic systems, characters, etc?
This is such a good idea for a video series of reviews.
When will you talk about the Cosmere connections? I am totally excited for book 5. Sazed/Harmony making an appearance/Commentary was a great surprise. Wit said something about his "Breaths" with his memories being corrupted. I feel like I missed something in that scene. Wit is in for a bad time. The angle about getting Stormlight out of the Roshar system is really interesting. Major implications for Scadriel and the other planets. Finally bringing it all together!!! I always wondered how humans came to Roshar from another planet when the people obviously are not technologically advanced enough for space travel. The Answer was Amazing and it was there in book 1.
You definitely weren't the only one to get emotional at The 4th Bridge
On the Audible audiobook, they pronounce Ialai as EE-AH-LAY
I finished Rhythm of War 30 minutes ago. 😁
I'm a little late to this because I took a LOT of breaks while reading this book (and of course didn't want to spoil anything for myself before I finished the whole thing), and I'm so glad that I did. There were so many heart wrenching moments that I needed to break up my reading patterns for this one to give myself time in between to process (Kaladin being relived of duty and that whole thing with Moash right before that were big ones, I think I took break for a couple of days after that before I started reading again.)
Your reaction to chapter 10: I’ve had a few of those moments in RoW so far. My husband is just like “why are you such a dramatic reader?” 😂 He just finished Oathbringer last night though, and I have a feeling my reactions while reading is what started him reading the series in the first place. 🤪
They exist! But they're napping now... Whose kids are these and can they have a heart to heart with my infant *please*
Great video!!! Happy reading to u!! 😊📖
Happy reading to you!
I also teared up when I found out the name of the ship was The Fourth Bridge.
I get dramatic when reading too! Lol!
I think that with the time jump between books 5 and 6, that Kaladin’s brother and Elhokar’s son will play a bigger role! At least that’s what I’m hoping!!
kaladin POV is just painnnnnnnnnnn
but i love him so much uwu
1. This whole war pretty much started with Gavel…and he’s an evil ass!!!
2. I’m sooo concerned that Shallon is NOT going to be able to keep herself under control…is she going to eff stuff up with Adolin?! She seems so unstable
3. Hot take: Kaladin and Leshwi Romeo/Juliette style romance?
4. THE WARBREAKER MAGIC!!! WB is my fav book
Gavilar was *such* an asshole in that prologue. Imagine being married to someone who wants to sleep with your brother, and *still being the worse person in that marriage.* How do you even manage that? I felt so bad for Gavilar being married to Navani as her obvious second choice all this time, until I read that prologue, and realized "wait, no, actually Gavilar is even worse, somehow I'm on Navani's side here."
edit: and yeah, unlocking the Oathgates and the Airship for quick travel in the late game is SO Final Fantasy lol
Just finished the book. For max enjoyment, you gotta read all of the cosmere for this book. Even white sands!
What was the light that moash saw before he ran away?
thanks for the Dalinar bashing 😉 I was absolutely not OK when he made that decision. And yeah, it was a correct decision, but seriously delivery was wrong and just like hey, find yourself sth else to do rather than actually see how he could help Kaladin
Adolin is a PERFECT CUPCAKE tyvm. :)
Elliot: everytime I read shallan, I want to just get back to kaladin
Me: everytime I read kaladin, I just want to get back to shallan.
Part 3 was the worst for me because there was no shallan!
I did love the chapters with kaladin and moash though 😭 oof! And the stuff with him be relieved of duty... Dalinar was so right though! (maybe they had talked before since there was a whole year between?)
Kaladin as odiums champion oooo I like it!
And you have to give adolin some credit! Syl knew that adolin was the person who was best for kal at that moment!
And renarin is the best ❤️
Also part 1 definitely ended with a bang 😏😉
Despite reading the first three chapters, I still can't remember who or what the fused are. Mr Sanderson, you really need to give us a summary of what came before. I haven't had time to re-read the previous three books.
Hopefully this helps! stormlightarchive.fandom.com/wiki/Fused
Finished the Book and now i have to wait until December 5th :(
Ah, don’t worry, it’ll be here soon! 😄
Everyone else: wow let's talk about the masterfully interwoven themes and character arcs that unfold in part 1!
Elliot: Eh, Navani deserved her husband's abuse, I'd rather skip Shalan's parts, Adolin is still unbearable (even when helping Kal with his suicidal thoughts), Venli is uninteresting, but omg Kaladin is the best, I loved part 1 so much!
Me: I... what?
Kaladin (as always), Raboniel and Leshwi were my faves in this one.
I can relate to all your responses and emotions so much.. especially about chapter 11.. I was so lost in previous chapter that I just couldn't care.. but I do not agree with your thoughts about Dalinar's decision for kal or the way he did it.. nonetheless curious about szeth's and zahel's storyline.. thanks for the schedule.. it's perfect for my reading pace and will encourage me in case I am lagging behind 😂😂 (not likely though)
P.S. Adolin is such a good guy.. He was so concerned about Kal and went out with / forced him to cheer him up . I hope you will like him more by the end of this series
Haha, I don’t think I’ll ever like Adolin 😂 At this point it’s like Leslie hating libraries in Parks and Rec (sorry, I hope you know that reference!)
@@ebnovels Lol.. is it that bad?? well! I feel for the guy.. I think even Jasnah has a larger fanbase than him 😭
@@ebnovels that’s actually really interesting that you hate Adolin. I grow to like Adolin every time I see him. It seems to me that you kinda irrationally hate him lol. Why don’t you like him?
@Kopal Gupta interesting! I suppose that’s reasonable, but if it’s the only reason it’s still irrational and generalizing. Adolin is a pretty cool guy despite being a prince. This debate is way too serious for the topic lol
Ok, i get it that if we someone wants to spoiler talk with me just watch this video she has the exact same reaction and experience, I mean totally Same.
I use to be depressed and Kaladin throughout this book hit me so hard.
I need someone to talk to about the part 5 😭
Let's talk. A huge emotional Rollercoaster but didn't see Nightblood and Taravangian thing coming.
Nor did I. Also...the epilogue 😟
The ending had me like "oh storms! Everyone is in such. Deep. Crem."
Also, I keep thinking that maybe the whole "Wit and Jasnah" thing happened bcz we needed someone close enough to Wit to understand something might be wrong with him. That'd be quite interesting
Well....apparently I'm a heartless monster hahha I don't hate Kaladin, I'm just not invested into him for some reason. However, I'm liking where his arc is taking him (although I'm only 25% in so far)
How dare you sir, HOW DARE YOU! :P
There's actually mofos in a subreddit called r/moashDidNothingWrong. And some of those mofos actually hate Kaladin.
Almost done with part 1, be back soon
I’ve not read the book so I’m going to skip the vid. Just wanted to leave a like and comment
That’s so kind of you, thank you!!!
I neeeeeed part 2 and 3 reviews fast !!!!!!! Please 🙇♂️🙇♂️🙇♂️
Dont push ur self..... i just m waiting for u to get to the juicy part!!!
I’ve read the whole book already :) Unless you mean you’re waiting for me to get to the juicy part here on RUclips! I also can’t wait :D
@@ebnovelsi find ur reviews really similarly to the way i see the book... and i kno u read the book just wana see ur reaction on the rest of it
@@ebnovels also this book got too emotional 🤧🤧 and i kno how u get while talking about ur fav char......... i really want to see u talk about kal's 4th oath, i mean that scene after all this time hits even harder then the first oath which was ur (and mine) no. 1 scene of the series.
Ur contents super good keep it up 🙏
When he realized the brand was gone 😭😭😭😭😭😭
@@ebnovels 🤧🤧🤧😖😖😖
Those tabs tho❤
I honestly didn’t hate Moash until Part I of RoW. He knows Kaladin so well and knew just what to say to him to mess with his head. Sent Kaladin spiraling into an intense depression. Oh, how I hate Moash now 🤬
Same, I was willing to give moash the benefit of the doubt and a chance of redemption, but after what he did...... n o
Why does nobody address the fact that Kal got releaved of duty due to his depression, meanwhile, Shallan gets a free pass while being super depressed and talking to herself and shit. Anyone wanna talk about that?