How to repair an Electric Fireplace --- Loud Motor Noise
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- To repair a electric fireplace mantel, I open the insides and show the internal working mechanisms and replace the faulty part.
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Thank you for explaining the wire colors. I wasn’t sure about how to replace since new motor had two blue wires and old motor had black and white 😊👏🏻
Thank you for this! I was able to use it to make my home fireplace silent again. Hint for others trying: I was unable to find a motor with a 4mm shaft, they only sell ones with a 7mm 1/4" shaft.
I simply got 1" of 1/4 " flexible tubing and removed the spring and used 2 - 1/4" spring clamps to hold it in place. worked perfectly.
Don't forget to check the bulbs when you have the back off!
I am having the exact issue not finding a 4mm shaft unit :( unfortunately I am not replacing it on a fireplace) so I need to find an exact match
Oh my gosh ... thank you!!! Just what I needed. Couldn't find the smaller shaft motor at all! Thank you for the tip
Thanks I was hoping it wasn't a big deal to fix thank god for you tube and poeple like u that take the time to make informative and helpful videos like this
Thanks to you I was able to repair my fireplace and save it from going to Goodwill 😊 Easy Peasy!
Excellent!
Thank you, thank you! I was so troubled after my son came in the room laughing at me because the flames were rolling backward. I knew it was probably due to this motor, so i set out to find information about replacing it. When you said some may say CW-CCW, I thought it couldn't be that simple, could it? Sure enough, unplugging it and replugging it in fixed it. I am thrilled 😊
This is great! I got a little fireplace second hand and after two years the motor died. Now I can fix it and continue to enjoy it. 😊 I’ve already ordered the part!
This is the exact info I was looking. Don't know if it will work on my fireplace or not, but will give it a shot. I have one of those newer ones with the crystal stones inside. I'll have to take it apart well before even finding the motor! I have a friend who is willing to help. Thanks for this info.
Thanks for posting this! I just replaced the same motor in our fireplace and the new one has a thicker shaft. This prohibits the spring on mirrored shaft from fitting over it. So I snipped off the narrower part of the extending spring and stretched out the remaining wider one. This made the set-screw collar unnecessary, so I slid the remaining spring over the wider shaft and secured it with some Gorilla Tape. Spliced the electrical wires like you showed, and everything works great!
Nice work!
Thank you for this! I think my unit is almost identical except white finish. I had it apart to fix the power switch and noticed the spinning mirror motor was struggling. Googled it and immediately found your video. I've got a part on order. Never done any wiring before but presume there are plenty of helpful videos from great contributors like you.
Glad it helped
@@donaldporta My motor arrived and I'm about to install. However the diameter of the shaft on the new motor is 1/8" thicker and too big for the spring. Is there a trick to thread it on or do I need to source a new spring?
Great how-to fix. THANK YOU. 👍 Our fireplace is a Southern Enterprise manufacture (made in China) , and the motor is disconnected with screws from the side. The pesky cotter pin is the hardest to get undone. Also, unclip one of the zip ties around the wiring, and follow the black and white wires to the two appropriate wire nuts to disconnect. The motor on ours says CCW ( the Jun Tuo brand) - so just match up what is on your old motor when looking online. Our fireplace gets LOTS of use (not using the heater all that much) so I will get a few extra motors, this one lasting us almost 4 years.
great!
It looks like Donald cut the old motor wires rather than following to an existing wire nut connection. I'm hoping I can cut mine at the motor, otherwise I'll have to remove more coverings and deep dive into a complex wad of wires!
Thank you! I am pretty sure my fireplace has this problem! Gonna try this! If it works, I'll paint it and move to another room for a change. Will touch base with you then👏👏👏
Thank you! The fireplace was expensive when I bought it and I was not going to trash it. Even a replacemnt firebox is fairly expensive depending on size. This was an easy, inexpensive fix. Thanks again!
Glad I could help!
Wow! You are amazing. You need to come to my house and help me with mine. You make it look so easy.👍🏼
Thanks for making this video! I very much appreciate the thoughtful work to help others!
My pleasure!
Great video , thanks, I have the same problem of loud noise on my fireplace, will replace the motor too. 😀
Glad it helped
Great video....Any suggestions for removing the spring from the motor unit? On my unit when I turn the spring clockwise the faulty motor turns as well which prevents me from removing the motor off of the synchronized reflective bar.
Any help with this matter would be appreciated,
Please make video with more lighting. the whole video is very day, but great video.. Thank you
Don Porta, I'm searching on Amazon Canada, all the motors listed are cw/ccw, someone told me if you wire it one way for cw, or reverse wire for ccw. What do you think?
Thank you! You've just saved me three-four hours. Thanks again also for the link.
Many thanks! New part being ordered!
Great help. Going to search for the motor I need.
Good luck!
I have one almost like yours someone gave me. I WILL take it down like you showed me really helpful Don. I didn't know it was light an mirrows for the illusion lol
just like magic!
My electric fireplace is in my tv stand and it’s making that exact noise. I have no idea what to buy for it bc I can’t find a name on this tv stand anywhere. I might need to throw it away but I love it! 😩
Which part of back panel to remove? There are upper & lower panels.
Thank you.
Do you have a link to the new motor?
Are they’re different size shafts ?
amazing thanks for the link!
Before even seeing your video I did this although I purchased a Chinese one from Amazon in Canada. Same thing. Very loud. I am tempted to pay the shipping fee over to Canada on the one you have linked but was wondering how come it doesn’t look like the one in your video. If it’s not exact I am afraid it may have the same problems
Ok so how do you know length cutting wires and hiw do you know what a cargo key is i could really use a little step by step ty im older lady really apreciate if you help through this. Not sure about spring or how you took it off need help this thank you im little sllow
Mine is a simplex with similar specs but it has a third brown wire. What is that wire for? Can I get one with two wires as long as specs are the same and wire nut that third wire off? Mine is 120v also. Same as 110? 120V, 10rpm, 60hz, 2-5w, cw. It was making the same loud noise and then stopped rotating at all. There is vibration in the motor just no rotation so I’m pretty sure that’s probably the problem but I don’t know what this 3rd wire is for.
Dimplex * not simplex
I have the same problem. My motor is 42TYJ-F which has three wires, seems to be a two way motor. How do I replace this with a more up to date motor? I can't seem to find one?
It seems like it's next to impossible to have a CW motor delivered within the next month, although CCW/CW ones are abundant for some reason. Is there any hope trying to open up the motor to repair it, or am I out of luck? It looks like it's still going to be cold for another month, so I was hoping to have this fixed before temperatures are high enough that we don't need the fireplace until next winter.
A little late on this response but I just disconnected the motor (snipped the wire) while I await the new motor. Meaning, it still works fine as a heater.
The motor that I purchased is a two wire, but the original is a three wire. I purchased the same thing - 120V 2-5W 60hz. How can I wire this? What would I do with the third wire?
CCW. Is that counter clockwise? Cause the motor i need is CCW
yes
Question... if my fireplace motor is a 3 watt but I can only find 4 watts, is it going to be a problem if I use the 4W motor instead? All the other specs seem to match up nicely... thanks!
not a problem, just an overkill!
Same problem I had,. I bought my unit at Sam's Club same noise had to replace mine too..
Hi. Are all fireplaces in need of clockwise rotation?
If you aren't sure... Can you tell me how do I tell what direction I need? Do I Look towards the pin or the face of the motor to determine. ( I can't see the motors writing on it would like to remove it when the replacement arrives as I just got it used lol )
Mine says CCW - counter clockwise
Thank you so much 💓
You're welcome 😊
Ha Ha! I am in Canada and our Amazon was only selling CCW/CW motors. I did not know what it meant until I installed. The motor spins counterclockwise and clockwise on a random basis. ;-))) The "fire" appears to move backwards when it is counterclockwise. No big deal, but a bit annoying. Very quiet now but still hear a bit of a whirring sound.
too funny. turn it off when backwards and back on, it should then be the right way.
I'd turn the old motor into a musical instrument
Seems like it would probably be fine, but I'll ask just to be thorough. If all someone cares about is that it's putting out heat, is it okay to simply remove the noisy part that's creating the visuals and just to be done with it?
EDIT:
So since this of course started happening at the coldest part of the year, I decided to just poke around in it and test for myself. So if anyone else comes wondering what I was wondering, I removed the reflector thingy and the motor. There is no light at all anymore, but the heat works fine, which is all I care about.
yes you can!
How do i know that it's not just the flame getting stuck that is making it make that sound
My old motor has three cables. The new ones all show 2 cables. Which ones do I Cut?
I couldn't tell you, but what I would do is power up the different pairs till I get the direction rotation I am after.
The beginning part of your video is dark please consider using a lamp behind you so people can see what you're talking about. My son does a lot of RUclips videos so I'm aware of the lighting issue.
working on it, thank you!
I cannot find these motors on amazon or ebay. All seem to be CW/CCW or wrong RPM. Maybe there are some that take forever to ship from China.
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How did you get the spring back on the larger axel
If I remember correctly, this spring is twisted on in the direction that forces it to expand and screws on.
What if I just wanted the light, can I just disconnect the motor so that it doesn’t make that part spin?
yes but the light will not flutter.
I had this question too. I removed the motor but now it wont turn on. Do I need to connect the two wires to close the load?
Just hoping that I find the part on Amazon
What happened to the spring part???
Just repaired mine today, same problem
hi. i just bought a little motor like you, but why it have 2 black wire?
probably these are the power. should be black and white, not sure what the manufacturers are doing.
@@donaldporta Thank you Donald!
It work very well, like new, i changed trhe motor as you said! i think the two wires was dc..A big thank you for you! i have a new fireplace whithout noise! Have a good day Donald!
@@donaldporta Didn't your replacement motor in the video have two black wires? Hence the comment regarding non-polarization in the 110-120 range and indifference as to which color (or lack thereof) matches which wire? Please excuse my electrical ignorance.
I'm Welsh but I will give it a go ,if not back up to my old pit and get some coal ,it's been shut 21 years now ,but I know my way and the black gold will illuminate just as good 🐲🐲🐲🐲😈 dai Bach Rhondda
Can you run it without the flame motor and just use the heater?
yes
@@donaldporta how? And i just unplugged it from an exstendion cord power bar and put it in a straight wall outlet and it wasnt loud for the first two hours but then it was after that.
Hi Donald, great video, I have the same problem but I am in the UK, I took my fire apart and my motor has 3 wires, a black, a red and a white. Can you please help as I do not know what the 3 wires are for and don't seem to be able to find a replacement with 3 wires. My original motor is rated at 220-240 volts 50/60hz 3.5w 15-18r/min ddww-electromotor GX-EF420. please help, the sound is driving us nuts.
the three wires is because it is 220 volts--- the red and black are the live wires, the white is the neutral. search for a 220 volt motor and if only two wires--- connect to the red and black wire.
@@donaldporta Thank you so much for your reply. So I can just snip off the white wire and put it to one side, I won't need it?
did you ever find a replacement motor i have the exact same it`s making a noise and driving me crazy.
Your rite light an mirrows equal magic a lil smoke would make it even better
Having the same problem but can't seem to find the replacement part like you got for less than $70. Do you have a link?
would lubrication be a solution?
no--- the motor is damaged.
Where did you purchase replacement motor...????
from amazon--- there is a link to the motor in the video description.
i have small fireplace wood frame heats no flicker
sounds like projection bulb
There are no specs on my little motor. 😢
Mine make the same noise and it’s brand new 🥴🥴