7:48, definitely a gimmick, but I think the intended use case would be "Looking at personal information in public" (while protected by PIA, obviously ;) ), not "Looking at images in public". At least from how the camera captured it, it does a pretty good job of hiding TEXT, so it would help protect you from somebody looking at your banking information or something, but probably wouldn't save you if you were looking at something nsfw in public and somebody looked over your shoulder.
Dell does have a Type-C adapter that supports 130W of power but it's "non-standard" and doesn't work with any other brand. Technically HP can do similar.
@agentcrm Why would it defeat the purpose? It still works exactly like any other type-c port, with the bonus of also charging through it. If the laptop has a usb-c port on both sides, I can't overstate how awesome it is to be able to change the side on which you charge. That is seriously the only reason I care about usb-c charging at all lol
Since basically everyone is using a 2-in-1 for pen writing in school/uni nowadays, it'd be really cool if you could make a video about how good stylus support is for writing, palm rejection etc. on the popular products like spectre x360, surface studio/pro, xps 2in1, lenovo yogas, etc. It's surprisingly hard to find any good videos that explore this topic in depth. A lot of students would be very glad if you did.
I quite agree. Mobile phone USB C seem to last 3 years of daily use. My laptop is 12 years old and the barrel ports is still going. I would actively avoid a laptop that only came with USB charging.
Yep, USB-C is mechanically weak and when you break it, not just the port, but also the charging IC usually goes with it... Good luck to your pocket there. 💰
If they manage to include a 32GB version for 12th gen that uses LPDDR5, I'll give them a pass for soldering the RAM because IIRC, there is no standard for low-power SODIMMs. If they manage to include DDR5 RAM slots and USB-EPR in that revision, I'll be DOUBLY impressed.
@@michaloravec6431 And I thought HP was competent in higher price-ranges... I got a fairly cheap HP and it's plagued by that exact same problem (among other "design flaws" also present in other laptops of the same model)
I had a Spectre x360 15 repaired a year ago (the battery had died two months before the warranty ended) - early 2019 spec - and after I got it back, one of the rubber strips didn't hold well, especially after intensive workload (playing games). I'm pissed the authorized service didn't clean the residue glue and use a completely new strip, it's difficult to spread it evenly. I had to cut the strip to fit in the groove.
10:10 - This is my number one complaint with my HP Spectre x360 14". The rubber feet have started coming off in a month and a half, it's impossible to find the exact part number for the 14", and there's just not a lot of options due to it being a strip vs a circular pad design
I have the same issue with my envy x360 13". One of the strips started coming off after about half a year, the other one is still mostly fine. After trying to reattach it with various glues, I just slapped a long strip of adhesive tape over it for now. Which, of course, kinda defeats the "grippy" nature of the rubber foot and makes the laptop slide around a lot more.
I saw other people in the comments saying they called support and were able to get replacements sent for free if the device is under warranty. I don't have one but it seems PERFECT other than that. How much do you notice it?
@@musaty6528 It's noticable as once it starts to peel it will catch everytime it goes in or out of the bag and when you try to set it up on whatever surface you're using. I at first tried using super glue and the hot glue, either work as the previous adhesive is still there and prevents it from really sticking. Going to be calling support sooner than later
Can confirm about the rubber feet... I and my sister-in-law both own the HP Envy (Ryzen 4500U and 4700U), and the rear rubber feet came off after 6 or so months. Annoying, but still great laptops. These envy and spectre laptops are top-shelf in their class of product, and great all-around machines.
With the “awake on approach” feature, does that not mean your camera is going to be on all the time when you’re away from your computer? Or at least has the ability to access it whenever it wants?
HP, at least in recent years, hasn't been horrendous. I've had a 13" one for over a year now (definitely before Framework was shipping laptops I'm pretty sure) and a bunch of the components were replaceable and they even had video guides on how to do it.
@@wololomonk my guy, I own one and know what I'm talking about. Buy it yourself and have a taste. If it bothers you that much then return it. Unless you constantly have a seizure when typing with your laptop which causes it to move 24/7 in use, you will not be bothered by it
I'm really impressed with the specs and how they keep it very repairable while doing so. Great job to their engineers on that part! Keep up the good content, always love Alex's reviews as well.
@@bb69bb Of course I did, this is why I'm asking for arguments (not arguing). What exactly about this laptop is so amazingly engineered that it deserved to be praised so much?
@@bb69bb After *literally* thousands of laptops since 2008, I'm yet to witness a laptop camera that isn't just a tiny PCB module connected to the motherboard via a cable. Only exception would be an Apple product that has the entire screen frame glued shut. Just as for the rest of the laptop parts, unless HP silently released schematics and started selling individual components to everyone, a.k.a. support Right to Repair, Alex's claim is, intentionally or not, complete bollocks. Even worse - the RAM here is just memory chips soldered to the motherboard, so if (when) it fails, you throw the whole MB, instead of just changing a RAM stick (module) like with the other 99% laptops. 👀 I'm baffled by this video from such a "reputable" outlet.
@@em0_tion HP Spectre's x360's maintenance & serivce guide is downloadable on-line. You can Google it yourself or I can forward the link to you. HP also list laptop parts and spare part numbers on their website. As for getting the parts, you can contact HP or Google laptopinventory. HP ain't Apple, now delete your silly post...lol
@@noneofyourbusiness6100 Very pink way of looking at it. My point remains solid - absolutely nothing differentiates HP from the bunch in terms of repairability. Everybody sells modules and no one provides board layouts and schematics. HP also forbids manufacturers from selling board level components to 3rd parties/users. What good are these PNs doing for us when a $5 charging IC burns and the only thing you can buy is a whole motherboard that costs a limb? $500 just for the part? 👀 Any sane customer will laugh at us on the way out of the repair shop. 😂 And that's exactly what these corps want, hence - "Right to Repair". If things were so easy and black & white as you make it out to be, we wouldn't need the legislation. P.S.: "HP ain't Apple"? Huh? Never said it was. 🙄
That lock and return feature should be on the Omen series. Maybe if they make a more premium Omen than their current lineup they can implement the Glemcam in it as well.
I love my 13 inch oled spectre 360. They did allot right. I love the display. I would like to see them put in an AMD processor in a revised version. Go for ultimate power efficiency and performace trade off. Drop in an hdmi port and it is the ultimate refresh. Funny, the tech industry finally realizes we like ports. The addition of a usb-a port and touchscreen has made my laptop so much more usefull than any mac. I use the usb a port almost every day. I feel apple could do this better than anyone, they just dont. They also have arguably the best chips on the market.
@@conheo4 USB-A is the RS-232 of the 80s. It'll never die, and industries will continue to use it well into it's obsolescence because it just works. But now that wireless is catching on, I don't think we'll ever see USB-C in peripherals like we did USB 2.0. At least it has a place as the defacto standard for power & data for many laptops and phones. Those multi-sized barrel jacks were evil! Especially when they required a non-standard voltage.
@@stephennorth9529 Nothing is perfect. Those "evil jacks" are at least mechanically strong, unlike the fragile USB-C. And when they break, you change them easily. Try that with those puny USB-C ports and their blown charging ICs if you're "lucky"... complete nightmare. Let's hope we get a USB4 protocol on a Lightning-like connectors soon for all our sake. 🤞
I'll never go near another HP. I spent 6 months getting them to honour their warranty for a one month old Pavilion with a bad cooling fan. It was eventually fixed...after an _amazing_ amount of BS to wade through, including HP wanting me to ship the laptop overseas for them (at my expense), and one case manager simply deciding to refuse the warranty claim without actually letting me know, in the hopes that the problem (me) would magically disappear - only to have the new fan stop working 9 months later when the warranty had run out. Never again.
My girlfriend is going through something similar right now. Her laptop keeps crashing on her, and the power button doesn't work unless she spams it a few times(right from the start). But HP support was giving her bullshit suggestions like running their diagnostics, and restoring it to a previous state. Although it doesn't take a genius to see that when it's a problem that was there from the start, restoring to a previous state isn't gonna do shit. And they refuse to fix her power button, coz technically, it's working, isnt it? Never buying another laptop from those guys.
I have had HP laptops for over 10 years, and have not had any warranty problems. Also, HP is the 2nd largest laptop maker in the world and their primary customers are corporations, education, and government. So clearly others seem not to have any problems as well.
I bought a HP Envy like 7 years ago and even back then had the exact same stupid rubber foot strips that you had to remove to open the chassis but that didn’t really matter cause they fall off on their own anyway. How have they been doing that awful design for so long? So terrible.
The lock on walk away and wake on approach feature has been done by Lenovo long ago. They even have it in $700 laptops such as the Yoga/Ideapad Slim 7. They call it Zero Touch Login and Lock.
HP is doing a good job with the Spectre (except for the rubber feet - I had the same issue after a battery-related RMA). I'm gonna upgrade my Spectre x360 sometime late next year, probably 14" (I don't need 15.6"/16" anymore) and hopefully with Meteor Lake.
If the rubber feet come off, the solution is simple. You can put almost any glue, although I used the silicone glue for cell phones from aliexpress "T-7000" there are several brands but they all do the same.
By the way, I did this with my HP envy laptop, it fits very well, the glue is thin and firm, it is not noticeable. But if your laptop has screws under those rubber bands, you will not be able to put the glue on it for obvious reasons (in this case, you would have to use double-sided adhesive tape, although it is not perfect and there is a risk that the rubber bands will break in half if you you try to pull out when the adhesive is strong)
at a buffet, i personally sneak corndogs into the buffet so others can enjoy them. I hide 6 corndogs in my jacket pockets. it then, is a joy for me to see other patrons of the establishment eat my corndogs thinking they were part of the buffe
Dell and a few other manufacturers have implemented type c at over 100w. The XPS 15 has a 130w brick, for example. Extended power range (240w) should be available pretty soon but for now the spec is 100w
1:17 these corner placements of the power and USB-C ports is a mistake on HP's part, i've had numerous students at my job come in with those just mangled beyond all recognition because the back corner is the most likely place for the laptop to hit the floor. really wish HP would stop doing this, it's super bad design
@Ace-Balthazar: I second that. What kind of *idiot* thought that putting a PORT on the frigging CORNER was a GOOD idea?[!] 8-S The employee that thought that up must have been drunk.
the corner placement is only available on the spectre (uber-expensive) lineup. if the students bought a cheaper, or buisiness laptop, they'd be more durable.
Working in Corporate IT support, I detest USB C charging, as it is far too delecate with the majority of users. It wouldn't be so bad if the ports were on a separate board, however most seem to be on the motherboard (well the Lenovo's I have seen anyway).
I just bought one of those about a month ago almost exactly as speced here (I got it at about $1300 WITH the oled because of their pre-12th gen clearance sale), and I'm really happy I got it before the 12th gen refresh. While the 12th gen processors are miles better, it also comes with an Intel A370M dedicated graphics, which (from what I've heard) are nowhere near as good as the 3050 mobile, even ignoring the frequent driver issues and display problems with the new card. Overall, the refresh is more like 1 step forward and 1 step back. If they kept the 3050, I'm sure it would be perfect. So if anyone's looking to buy it, I HEAVILY recommend it.
Thanks fpr your great Infos. I got Dell XPS 15 9510 i7, the HP Spectre 16 12th gen and Dell Inspiron 7506 black edition, all of them are amazing laptops, though the webcam by the dell sucks :,)
That shoulder surf blur function is a really good idea, it's just horribly implemented here, lol. Maybe if it actually blurred the image instead of just making it fuzzy but still easy to tell what you are looking at?
A guy working at microcenter told me to steer clear of the spectre series, as it's the most returned laptop currently. Things he said go bad, black screens, hinge problems, battery problems etc... I been binging Northridge Fix (ruclips.net/user/NorthridgeFix), and he's had to replace burnt usb-c controllers like crazy which is probably why there is no longer usb-c power. I love their Zbook and older Elitebook series of laptop "workstations" (I still own an 8510 that although technically works has issues, I think either heatpipes or something) but besides that laptop from 2007ish all of the other ones I own still work great (I put an i7 into a 8770w that crashes every now and then but that may be an issue of a different heatsink). I also own the infamous dv9000 that I did the penny "mod" on (It's just been sitting there I don't know if it works actually) and that's the same vibes I get from the spectre series, and it's a shame because they look gorgeous. I wanted a spectre so bad, they have a nice 4k model I really wanted but with a crappy nvidia gpu so no...Now a legion 15 (ryzen) is my main lappy and ryzen desktop are my go to devices.
I love how this laptop looks and now that 12th gen Intel promises good battery life I can finally justify getting this over an envy... When it hopefully comes out
@2:20 This is not a complaint. This is not even constructive. Just an observation. Either the editor chose this music without ever watching Jayztwocents videos (Cheers Phil), or they really like Jayztwocents videos, and chose the music accordingly. =) I also really like Alex's sweater for some reason.
I have an Envy x360 15" and I know what you mean by rubber feet being bad, I have resorted to keeping a roll of double sided tape in my toolbag; keeps the rubber on but it's stretched
@@em0_tion You really like posting lies don't you. Please prove proof that they break "mad often". Apple are the laptops that break mad often. Every year there is a class-action lawsuite: cracked screens, key boards, connectivity, green screen, thermal throttling, etc.
@@noneofyourbusiness6100 I'm commenting of these particular HP series (Spectre X360). Just watch NorthridgeFix's repair videos here on YT. 😉 Apple does something bad, but HP can't? What is this nonsense law? Bias? Everyone can see the screen wobbles, "lies"?
The EliteBook's are much better with their rubber feet. They're not glued on like consumer laptops but parts of it are actually embedded into the chassis and have had no problems.
I have an envy 14 and I had to disasemble to clean the fan and that meant removing the strips. You can buy replacement ones but i actually didnt find it that hard to put them back i just needed to buy good doulbe sided tape.
7:47, definitely a gimmick, but I think the intended use case would be "Looking at personal information in public" (while protected by PIA, obviously ;) ), not "Looking at images in public".
i bet this laptop can charge with type c chargers too, in that case, i'm a huge fan of having a dc jack charger, it can free up a usb c port while deleverying more juice due to most type c charger are limited for 100w. you can use adapters to charge a barrow plug laptop but you can't adapt a dc jack to usb @0:50
As someone who has this laptop, I would really advise you to stear clear until they revamp it. For starters, if you are a student and intend to use it for note taking (that's what I do with it primarily) the screen scratches exceptionally easy. Furthermore, the screen rubs on the chasis at the top, so if you have it in ur backpack and you are walking orbwhatever, due to little flexes in the laptop from general movement you get fairly distinct scratches/fuzziness at the top. Past that it gets very very hot while in sleep mode and charging. Finally, and this is likely just mine, the TouchPad rattled pretty substantially, almost as if it has a warp or something. Like you can press it down a bit before actuating it. Battery life is pretty bad, the screen is however beautiful(when it isn't scratched to hell) and it is pretty powerful for everything I've thrown at it, I do light games a fair amount of cad and other engineering student stuff. It hasn't been well reviewed by people who use it dauly
This 16:10 (not 16:9) 2-in-1 HP laptop is a great combination of power and battery life, and the cost was $1094US open-box at Best Buy (comes w/laptop case and pen). My 16 inch Spectre x360 (i7, 16 ram, 512ssd) w/integrated graphics scores in the low 1600s on Geekbench 5.4 single-core and mid 5400s for multi-core. Most recent leaks of 12th Gen i7 processors range from 1600s to 1700s for single-core, and 6300s to 10,000 for multi-core. So for office/school work (single-core), Intel 12th Gen i7 processors are not a big upgrade. As for battery life, it gets 13 hours on balanced power setting (RUclips viewing, brightness at 40%, wifi and battery saver on, bluetooth off) and 10 hours on highest power setting (battery saver turned off). Screen is perfectly viewable at ZERO brightness and battery life increases to 15 hours on balanced power. I keep screen brightness at or just above ZERO working at home. Unlike performance, Intel has been silent on 12 Gen processors' battery life. So these new processors won't increase battery life (or Intel would be mentioning it). Rumor has it their 13th Gen processors are supposed to increase performance and battery life.
Okay reasons why OLED on laptops suck 1. They still use the pentile arrangement = less subpixels. 2. Laptops with touch and digitizers don't have them integrated on the panel. That produces the screen door effect. So I guess for now, go with LCD displays for laptops until like qLED panels make it onto laptops or smth.
I just ordered the updated 12th gen version, ironically, just before discovering this video. The model I got has 32gb ram and a i7-1260p (so 4p and 8e cores = 16 total threads). Instead of the rtx 3050, hp swapped an intel arc a370m GPU which from all reviews I've seen is totally comparable with the 3050 and actually performs better for productivity workloads (I'm not really a gamer anyway). I went forward with the 4k 16:10 oled because it's awesome! To save on HP's insane SSD markup, I picked the lowest capacity model (512gb). Here's the kicker...as part of their black friday sale, I bought this laptop for $1699. Essentially, it's ALL the upgrades Alex complained about for over $300 less than the price shown in this video. Additionally, I got an insanely good deal on a 4tb nvme pcie gen 4 ssd to upgrade the 512gb. Definitely, the best 2-in-1 laptop available with the best deal available.
For laptop gaming with something like this, I find that going for an in between resolution between 1280x720 and 1920x1080 works best. I usually go for 1600x900 (or whatever the 16:10 ratio would be) and it still looks pretty good. I've gotten a good 10-15 fps bump before by doing that.
@@huttonberries768 you would think, but it actually doesn't in my experience. Does it look as sharp as native, no. But I'm willing to sacrifice a little sharpness for a better overall gaming experience
I understand the convenience of USB-C power, but I really hoped they stopped using it in laptops. USB-C is not good for laptops if you are using them in uneven places (like on your lap). The connector will flex and become unreliable after a few months, no matter how much you care for it. The barrel connector can twist and has less chance of flexing. Not having USB-C as a power connector is actually a filter we've used for our latest purchases.
I didn't have issues with the feet coming off, but I did take them off after a couple of months to swap out the SSD (the one in the 13" one I have was garbage and vastly improved even with just a cheapish WD NVME 1TB drive.) But it was impossible to get them back in, I resorted to using super glue but it didn't really work. You can buy replacement strips from HP though I think.
HP X...BOX 360 THAT HAS AN SSD, ORIGINAL, AND RUN MINECRAFT WITHOUT CHOPPING/STUDDERING DUE TO THE GDDR3 512MB CLEARLY NOT OPTIMIZED FOR THE 2018 1.13 AQUATIC UPDATE? Jk, I'm just throwing my frustrations against a wall. I could try some Gelid or NAB thermal pads to improve temps and see if the memory/cpu+gpu combo was being held back.
The screen is insanely wobbly fyi, even the new 12th gen models. So if you are like me and want to do a 45 fold backwards to rest on your lap to use as a tablet it's annoying. I tried it in store and you can clearly see it in the video. I passed due to that.
Yo there is literally a $799.00 rtx 3060 MSI laptop on best buy right now with a 10500h. what a beast deal lol that's the type of stuff they should be reviewing
How is it that Samsung pulls off nearly 15" oled that looks absolutely gorgeous but literally all the laptops screw it so bad? How do they blow up every time?
I've had 2 decent hp laptops back to back and I find the batteries terrible, I used the first laptop for like not even 1.5 years and the battery was already dead and on the other one the battery was already dead at a half year of use.
7:48, definitely a gimmick, but I think the intended use case would be "Looking at personal information in public" (while protected by PIA, obviously ;) ), not "Looking at images in public". At least from how the camera captured it, it does a pretty good job of hiding TEXT, so it would help protect you from somebody looking at your banking information or something, but probably wouldn't save you if you were looking at something nsfw in public and somebody looked over your shoulder.
definitely
0:50 Current USB-C PD protocol only supports up to 100W of power, that’s probably why HP didn’t use it on their primary power port.
Dell does have a Type-C adapter that supports 130W of power but it's "non-standard" and doesn't work with any other brand. Technically HP can do similar.
@@essamal-mansouri2689 Which defeats the whole purpose of using type-C connectors.
The USB EPR standard allows for 240w, apple uses this standard on their 140w charging MacBook pro
@agentcrm Why would it defeat the purpose? It still works exactly like any other type-c port, with the bonus of also charging through it.
If the laptop has a usb-c port on both sides, I can't overstate how awesome it is to be able to change the side on which you charge. That is seriously the only reason I care about usb-c charging at all lol
@@AndreiTache problem is that most laptops with 2 type C only allow charging from one, Lmao
When you see Alex you know it's LAPTOP TIME 😁
For it’s more like “when i see laptops i know it’s Alex time”
Or it's jank throw some stuff together and hope it works time 🤣🤣
Or jank!
LOL you are right guys😂
Or he's about to commit critical psychic damage to all mechanical engineers in the audience
Since basically everyone is using a 2-in-1 for pen writing in school/uni nowadays, it'd be really cool if you could make a video about how good stylus support is for writing, palm rejection etc. on the popular products like spectre x360, surface studio/pro, xps 2in1, lenovo yogas, etc. It's surprisingly hard to find any good videos that explore this topic in depth. A lot of students would be very glad if you did.
As someone who has owned many laptops that charge via type C, I like the older barrel charge ports. In my experience they're much more durable.
At my job everyone is absolutely hating the USB-C charging ports on our new laptops, it's just too fragile for industrial environments.
I like Lenovo´s squared charger at the back of the laptop. It´s less intrusive
I have this on my current laptop, definitely wouldn't pick a laptop with usb c charging again. Maybe going to go for a thick thinkpad.
I quite agree.
Mobile phone USB C seem to last 3 years of daily use. My laptop is 12 years old and the barrel ports is still going.
I would actively avoid a laptop that only came with USB charging.
Yep, USB-C is mechanically weak and when you break it, not just the port, but also the charging IC usually goes with it... Good luck to your pocket there. 💰
If they manage to include a 32GB version for 12th gen that uses LPDDR5, I'll give them a pass for soldering the RAM because IIRC, there is no standard for low-power SODIMMs. If they manage to include DDR5 RAM slots and USB-EPR in that revision, I'll be DOUBLY impressed.
I also have problems with HP's rubber feet strips coming off. I think they might use it as an indicator that the user removed the screws underneath.
Yeah I have HP Envy and in a few months the rubber feet fell off. :( And I cannot even find them as spare parts...
@@michaloravec6431 And I thought HP was competent in higher price-ranges...
I got a fairly cheap HP and it's plagued by that exact same problem (among other "design flaws" also present in other laptops of the same model)
I had a Spectre x360 15 repaired a year ago (the battery had died two months before the warranty ended) - early 2019 spec - and after I got it back, one of the rubber strips didn't hold well, especially after intensive workload (playing games). I'm pissed the authorized service didn't clean the residue glue and use a completely new strip, it's difficult to spread it evenly. I had to cut the strip to fit in the groove.
i used to work in hp support i belive you can ask from them to send you new feet if you still have warranty and their policy haven't changed
@@michaloravec6431 You can find bottom covers (with feet) at Hp parts dealers, but $$
That wobbly screen would drive me nuts. Why is it every HP has wobbly hinges?
I see that shoulder surfing feature becoming a huge drawer for businesses. Especially if they can force it on.
They have it already since a very long time.. something close to it at least - HP SureView is meant to do the same, just not automatically.
"drawer" ? Illiteracy abounds.
Your content is very informative while being fun to watch keep it up.
I appreciate that!
@@ShortCircuit What would be a better pickup the iPad Pro 12.9 m1 or the go spectre x360 with 3k display ips. I mainly watch videos?
@@Johnmims65 ipad
@@nerdsuper1514 ok
10:10 - This is my number one complaint with my HP Spectre x360 14". The rubber feet have started coming off in a month and a half, it's impossible to find the exact part number for the 14", and there's just not a lot of options due to it being a strip vs a circular pad design
Have you tried hp part surfer?
I have the same issue with my envy x360 13". One of the strips started coming off after about half a year, the other one is still mostly fine. After trying to reattach it with various glues, I just slapped a long strip of adhesive tape over it for now. Which, of course, kinda defeats the "grippy" nature of the rubber foot and makes the laptop slide around a lot more.
Had this with my spectre a few years ago, and combined with the crappy trackpad drivers they had back then I sold it asap
I saw other people in the comments saying they called support and were able to get replacements sent for free if the device is under warranty. I don't have one but it seems PERFECT other than that. How much do you notice it?
@@musaty6528 It's noticable as once it starts to peel it will catch everytime it goes in or out of the bag and when you try to set it up on whatever surface you're using. I at first tried using super glue and the hot glue, either work as the previous adhesive is still there and prevents it from really sticking. Going to be calling support sooner than later
Can confirm about the rubber feet... I and my sister-in-law both own the HP Envy (Ryzen 4500U and 4700U), and the rear rubber feet came off after 6 or so months. Annoying, but still great laptops. These envy and spectre laptops are top-shelf in their class of product, and great all-around machines.
Love when Alex does laptop videos still looking for mine:)
With the “awake on approach” feature, does that not mean your camera is going to be on all the time when you’re away from your computer? Or at least has the ability to access it whenever it wants?
I think only the IR sensors will be on, not the camera itself, but I could be wrong
At the very least some sort of distance sensor, which might also be lower power than actually using a normal camera.
It is the IR sensor. Same thing in any Windows laptop that has Windows Hello support for facial authentication
Great question and it would've been cool if they had discussed potential security issues in the video.
@@rikwisselink-bijker I don't think they are commenting about the power. It's about security and privacy.
I love seeing the ripple effect that the Framework has already had. Look how much more repairable this thing is!
HP, at least in recent years, hasn't been horrendous. I've had a 13" one for over a year now (definitely before Framework was shipping laptops I'm pretty sure) and a bunch of the components were replaceable and they even had video guides on how to do it.
Does anyone else notice how much screen wobbles when he’s just using the laptop
Those hinges are going to break in under a year.
@@JUSTKOZ stop spewing bs please
screen wobbles when you move the laptop, not type on it so it's good enough for regular use
@@omegamalkior1874 I disagree. If you look at the laptop while they are just speaking about it, it wobbles a LOT!
@@wololomonk my guy, I own one and know what I'm talking about. Buy it yourself and have a taste. If it bothers you that much then return it. Unless you constantly have a seizure when typing with your laptop which causes it to move 24/7 in use, you will not be bothered by it
That’s a distracting amount of display wobble when there’s any mousing going on
Yes super annoying considering it is $2000
I'm really impressed with the specs and how they keep it very repairable while doing so. Great job to their engineers on that part!
Keep up the good content, always love Alex's reviews as well.
And how exactly are they keeping it very repairable? Any facts to support your argument or you're just blindly repeating Alex's marketing BS?
@@bb69bb Of course I did, this is why I'm asking for arguments (not arguing). What exactly about this laptop is so amazingly engineered that it deserved to be praised so much?
@@bb69bb After *literally* thousands of laptops since 2008, I'm yet to witness a laptop camera that isn't just a tiny PCB module connected to the motherboard via a cable. Only exception would be an Apple product that has the entire screen frame glued shut. Just as for the rest of the laptop parts, unless HP silently released schematics and started selling individual components to everyone, a.k.a. support Right to Repair, Alex's claim is, intentionally or not, complete bollocks. Even worse - the RAM here is just memory chips soldered to the motherboard, so if (when) it fails, you throw the whole MB, instead of just changing a RAM stick (module) like with the other 99% laptops. 👀 I'm baffled by this video from such a "reputable" outlet.
@@em0_tion
HP Spectre's x360's maintenance & serivce guide is downloadable on-line. You can Google it yourself or I can forward the link to you.
HP also list laptop parts and spare part numbers on their website. As for getting the parts, you can contact HP or Google laptopinventory.
HP ain't Apple, now delete your silly post...lol
@@noneofyourbusiness6100 Very pink way of looking at it. My point remains solid - absolutely nothing differentiates HP from the bunch in terms of repairability. Everybody sells modules and no one provides board layouts and schematics. HP also forbids manufacturers from selling board level components to 3rd parties/users. What good are these PNs doing for us when a $5 charging IC burns and the only thing you can buy is a whole motherboard that costs a limb? $500 just for the part? 👀 Any sane customer will laugh at us on the way out of the repair shop. 😂 And that's exactly what these corps want, hence - "Right to Repair". If things were so easy and black & white as you make it out to be, we wouldn't need the legislation.
P.S.: "HP ain't Apple"? Huh? Never said it was. 🙄
You guys purposefully skipped on
" Attention tracking " that's a dystopian thing.
There is a 32 GB option but you have to get the OLED screen with it
Still waiting for 12th gen Intel laptops :(
The "Sunday! Sunday! Sunday!" opening is a win. :D
That lock and return feature should be on the Omen series. Maybe if they make a more premium Omen than their current lineup they can implement the Glemcam in it as well.
I love my 13 inch oled spectre 360. They did allot right. I love the display. I would like to see them put in an AMD processor in a revised version. Go for ultimate power efficiency and performace trade off. Drop in an hdmi port and it is the ultimate refresh.
Funny, the tech industry finally realizes we like ports. The addition of a usb-a port and touchscreen has made my laptop so much more usefull than any mac. I use the usb a port almost every day. I feel apple could do this better than anyone, they just dont. They also have arguably the best chips on the market.
Can we stop using type-A now please and move on to type-C from now on.
@@conheo4 USB-A is the RS-232 of the 80s. It'll never die, and industries will continue to use it well into it's obsolescence because it just works. But now that wireless is catching on, I don't think we'll ever see USB-C in peripherals like we did USB 2.0. At least it has a place as the defacto standard for power & data for many laptops and phones. Those multi-sized barrel jacks were evil! Especially when they required a non-standard voltage.
@@stephennorth9529 Nothing is perfect. Those "evil jacks" are at least mechanically strong, unlike the fragile USB-C. And when they break, you change them easily. Try that with those puny USB-C ports and their blown charging ICs if you're "lucky"... complete nightmare. Let's hope we get a USB4 protocol on a Lightning-like connectors soon for all our sake. 🤞
Emiliyan Yankov very true, and with the licensing costs of thunderbolt... yeah USB-A sure has its place as a robust connection
I'll never go near another HP. I spent 6 months getting them to honour their warranty for a one month old Pavilion with a bad cooling fan. It was eventually fixed...after an _amazing_ amount of BS to wade through, including HP wanting me to ship the laptop overseas for them (at my expense), and one case manager simply deciding to refuse the warranty claim without actually letting me know, in the hopes that the problem (me) would magically disappear - only to have the new fan stop working 9 months later when the warranty had run out. Never again.
My girlfriend is going through something similar right now. Her laptop keeps crashing on her, and the power button doesn't work unless she spams it a few times(right from the start).
But HP support was giving her bullshit suggestions like running their diagnostics, and restoring it to a previous state. Although it doesn't take a genius to see that when it's a problem that was there from the start, restoring to a previous state isn't gonna do shit. And they refuse to fix her power button, coz technically, it's working, isnt it?
Never buying another laptop from those guys.
I have had HP laptops for over 10 years, and have not had any warranty problems. Also, HP is the 2nd largest laptop maker in the world and their primary customers are corporations, education, and government. So clearly others seem not to have any problems as well.
I really love how HP and Dell are really pushing each other with each generation of Spectre/XPS!
I bought a HP Envy like 7 years ago and even back then had the exact same stupid rubber foot strips that you had to remove to open the chassis but that didn’t really matter cause they fall off on their own anyway. How have they been doing that awful design for so long? So terrible.
The lock on walk away and wake on approach feature has been done by Lenovo long ago. They even have it in $700 laptops such as the Yoga/Ideapad Slim 7. They call it Zero Touch Login and Lock.
Why only your Lenovo?
@@horsthorst11 Its not in every lenovo as it requires the IR sensor + ToF sensor.
⭐️ Great Video.
I always find myself smiling when you’re hosting, you radiat positive energy. 👍
HP is doing a good job with the Spectre (except for the rubber feet - I had the same issue after a battery-related RMA). I'm gonna upgrade my Spectre x360 sometime late next year, probably 14" (I don't need 15.6"/16" anymore) and hopefully with Meteor Lake.
If the rubber feet come off, the solution is simple. You can put almost any glue, although I used the silicone glue for cell phones from aliexpress "T-7000" there are several brands but they all do the same.
By the way, I did this with my HP envy laptop, it fits very well, the glue is thin and firm, it is not noticeable. But if your laptop has screws under those rubber bands, you will not be able to put the glue on it for obvious reasons (in this case, you would have to use double-sided adhesive tape, although it is not perfect and there is a risk that the rubber bands will break in half if you you try to pull out when the adhesive is strong)
Alex goin full how to basic mode.
00:30 love to see you guys keeping the tradition alive
at a buffet, i personally sneak corndogs into the buffet so others can enjoy them. I hide 6 corndogs in my jacket pockets. it then, is a joy for me to see other patrons of the establishment eat my corndogs thinking they were part of the buffe
what lmao
MSI-sponsored first look at an HP laptop😂. Of course i trust you guys, but couldn’t help the irony..
But if you look in the description, it says to buy a Dell.
Don't trust them so lightly, cause that HP great repairability is a whole bunch of marketing BS. Did not expect that from Alex.
Isn't the type C connector only rated for 100W? So HP really didn't have a choice?
I think soo too
USB 4 PD allows for up to 240 W
Dell and a few other manufacturers have implemented type c at over 100w. The XPS 15 has a 130w brick, for example. Extended power range (240w) should be available pretty soon but for now the spec is 100w
yeah but dell for example did laptops with 130w charging via type c. It's proprietary but it works afaik.
@@G33kyAli did that come in consumer devices? It's a pretty new standard. So i think it'll take time
1:17 these corner placements of the power and USB-C ports is a mistake on HP's part, i've had numerous students at my job come in with those just mangled beyond all recognition because the back corner is the most likely place for the laptop to hit the floor. really wish HP would stop doing this, it's super bad design
@Ace-Balthazar:
I second that. What kind of *idiot* thought that putting a PORT on the frigging CORNER was a GOOD idea?[!] 8-S
The employee that thought that up must have been drunk.
the corner placement is only available on the spectre (uber-expensive) lineup. if the students bought a cheaper, or buisiness laptop, they'd be more durable.
Working in Corporate IT support, I detest USB C charging, as it is far too delecate with the majority of users. It wouldn't be so bad if the ports were on a separate board, however most seem to be on the motherboard (well the Lenovo's I have seen anyway).
No one:
Me: admiring the deep blacks of the OLED screen on my phone’s LCD screen
I just bought one of those about a month ago almost exactly as speced here (I got it at about $1300 WITH the oled because of their pre-12th gen clearance sale), and I'm really happy I got it before the 12th gen refresh. While the 12th gen processors are miles better, it also comes with an Intel A370M dedicated graphics, which (from what I've heard) are nowhere near as good as the 3050 mobile, even ignoring the frequent driver issues and display problems with the new card. Overall, the refresh is more like 1 step forward and 1 step back. If they kept the 3050, I'm sure it would be perfect. So if anyone's looking to buy it, I HEAVILY recommend it.
Thanks fpr your great Infos. I got Dell XPS 15 9510 i7, the HP Spectre 16 12th gen and Dell Inspiron 7506 black edition, all of them are amazing laptops, though the webcam by the dell sucks :,)
I'd love to see the 12 gen intel version with 32 GB RAM
That shoulder surf blur function is a really good idea, it's just horribly implemented here, lol. Maybe if it actually blurred the image instead of just making it fuzzy but still easy to tell what you are looking at?
That is a wild amount of screen shaking while typing, I don't know if I could live with it.
I love that opening energy from Alex.
Love the intro - " I felt violent this morning."
Love how Alex always ask Jono for validation
2:58 That SSD icon really does look like a graphics card
A guy working at microcenter told me to steer clear of the spectre series, as it's the most returned laptop currently. Things he said go bad, black screens, hinge problems, battery problems etc... I been binging Northridge Fix (ruclips.net/user/NorthridgeFix), and he's had to replace burnt usb-c controllers like crazy which is probably why there is no longer usb-c power. I love their Zbook and older Elitebook series of laptop "workstations" (I still own an 8510 that although technically works has issues, I think either heatpipes or something) but besides that laptop from 2007ish all of the other ones I own still work great (I put an i7 into a 8770w that crashes every now and then but that may be an issue of a different heatsink). I also own the infamous dv9000 that I did the penny "mod" on (It's just been sitting there I don't know if it works actually) and that's the same vibes I get from the spectre series, and it's a shame because they look gorgeous.
I wanted a spectre so bad, they have a nice 4k model I really wanted but with a crappy nvidia gpu so no...Now a legion 15 (ryzen) is my main lappy and ryzen desktop are my go to devices.
the screen wobbles a lot,the lid flexes.
I love how this laptop looks and now that 12th gen Intel promises good battery life I can finally justify getting this over an envy... When it hopefully comes out
Intel has been completely silent on 12th Gen battery life which means, it ain't that good.
@2:20 This is not a complaint. This is not even constructive. Just an observation. Either the editor chose this music without ever watching Jayztwocents videos (Cheers Phil), or they really like Jayztwocents videos, and chose the music accordingly. =)
I also really like Alex's sweater for some reason.
I have an Envy x360 15" and I know what you mean by rubber feet being bad, I have resorted to keeping a roll of double sided tape in my toolbag; keeps the rubber on but it's stretched
No point, take it off and replace with a long streak from a hot melt glue gun. Done right - it's rock solid for years, no slips. 😉
That was SO extreme.
Just clicked bcz its 2 in 1 i think 2 in 1s are underrated and companies should make more of them and at competitive pricing
that moment when you work at hp and you watch this this man took out the box like that...
Loving the jay2cents music
Jay's two cents music baby
I have the last mode HP spectre from 2018 and it still works very well.
The wobbling screen is pretty disturbing. Lol
Great review as always!
i love how you guys chose to review an HP laptop for an MSI sponsored video. takes balls
I'm gonna be buying one of these as soon as it becomes available with 12th gen
They break mad often, you'll be better off with another model.
@@em0_tion You really like posting lies don't you. Please prove proof that they break "mad often". Apple are the laptops that break mad often. Every year there is a class-action lawsuite: cracked screens, key boards, connectivity, green screen, thermal throttling, etc.
@@noneofyourbusiness6100 I'm commenting of these particular HP series (Spectre X360). Just watch NorthridgeFix's repair videos here on YT. 😉 Apple does something bad, but HP can't? What is this nonsense law? Bias? Everyone can see the screen wobbles, "lies"?
@@em0_tion translation: i have never touched, nor do I currently own a 2016 HP Spectre.
So thankful my Spectre x360 13” came with a 65w USB-C plug
Fun fact, HP type c ports fail all the time so a barrel jack is kinda nice to see
When a competitor is sponsoring your laptop video :D
Is that the Donut Media logo on Alex's laptop screen @4:14 ? I spent the morning listening to their podcasts.
“I don’t know! I felt violent this morning!”
The EliteBook's are much better with their rubber feet. They're not glued on like consumer laptops but parts of it are actually embedded into the chassis and have had no problems.
I've had an x360 envy 13 incher and the SAME rubber foot is on there and it ALSO came off.
alex is so canadian, the way he says charging, rtx, processor, start, anything with an r. eyar
Ayyyyy nice, we do need repairability scores, I'm glad alex said repairability, we need to reduce carbon foot print and reduce e waste
Maybe they also made it so that it doesn't blast the fans at 15% usage but somehow I doubt it
I have an envy 14 and I had to disasemble to clean the fan and that meant removing the strips. You can buy replacement ones but i actually didnt find it that hard to put them back i just needed to buy good doulbe sided tape.
7:47, definitely a gimmick, but I think the intended use case would be "Looking at personal information in public" (while protected by PIA, obviously ;) ), not "Looking at images in public".
is he not observing the wobbly hinge? it feels like it's headbanging on a metal concert
I hated those combo jacks... You can't find a quality adapter for older headphone sets at normal prices
i bet this laptop can charge with type c chargers too, in that case, i'm a huge fan of having a dc jack charger, it can free up a usb c port while deleverying more juice due to most type c charger are limited for 100w. you can use adapters to charge a barrow plug laptop but you can't adapt a dc jack to usb @0:50
Yes it can...
2:56 Oops! You have used the graphics card logo for the storage of the laptop
Do a video wher you rip apart the laptop speakers and identify them by brand and model number, and which laptops they are in.
As someone who has this laptop, I would really advise you to stear clear until they revamp it. For starters, if you are a student and intend to use it for note taking (that's what I do with it primarily) the screen scratches exceptionally easy. Furthermore, the screen rubs on the chasis at the top, so if you have it in ur backpack and you are walking orbwhatever, due to little flexes in the laptop from general movement you get fairly distinct scratches/fuzziness at the top. Past that it gets very very hot while in sleep mode and charging. Finally, and this is likely just mine, the TouchPad rattled pretty substantially, almost as if it has a warp or something. Like you can press it down a bit before actuating it. Battery life is pretty bad, the screen is however beautiful(when it isn't scratched to hell) and it is pretty powerful for everything I've thrown at it, I do light games a fair amount of cad and other engineering student stuff. It hasn't been well reviewed by people who use it dauly
This 16:10 (not 16:9) 2-in-1 HP laptop is a great combination of power and battery life, and the cost was $1094US open-box at Best Buy (comes w/laptop case and pen).
My 16 inch Spectre x360 (i7, 16 ram, 512ssd) w/integrated graphics scores in the low 1600s on Geekbench 5.4 single-core and mid 5400s for multi-core. Most recent leaks of 12th Gen
i7 processors range from 1600s to 1700s for single-core, and 6300s to 10,000 for multi-core. So for office/school work (single-core), Intel 12th Gen i7 processors are not a big upgrade.
As for battery life, it gets 13 hours on balanced power setting (RUclips viewing, brightness at 40%, wifi and battery saver on, bluetooth off) and 10 hours on highest power setting (battery
saver turned off). Screen is perfectly viewable at ZERO brightness and battery life increases to 15 hours on balanced power. I keep screen brightness at or just above ZERO working at home.
Unlike performance, Intel has been silent on 12 Gen processors' battery life. So these new processors won't increase battery life (or Intel would be mentioning it). Rumor has it their
13th Gen processors are supposed to increase performance and battery life.
I love Alex's and linus's reviews. They know when its time to be funny and not.
Okay reasons why OLED on laptops suck
1. They still use the pentile arrangement = less subpixels.
2. Laptops with touch and digitizers don't have them integrated on the panel. That produces the screen door effect.
So I guess for now, go with LCD displays for laptops until like qLED panels make it onto laptops or smth.
I just ordered the updated 12th gen version, ironically, just before discovering this video. The model I got has 32gb ram and a i7-1260p (so 4p and 8e cores = 16 total threads). Instead of the rtx 3050, hp swapped an intel arc a370m GPU which from all reviews I've seen is totally comparable with the 3050 and actually performs better for productivity workloads (I'm not really a gamer anyway). I went forward with the 4k 16:10 oled because it's awesome! To save on HP's insane SSD markup, I picked the lowest capacity model (512gb). Here's the kicker...as part of their black friday sale, I bought this laptop for $1699. Essentially, it's ALL the upgrades Alex complained about for over $300 less than the price shown in this video. Additionally, I got an insanely good deal on a 4tb nvme pcie gen 4 ssd to upgrade the 512gb. Definitely, the best 2-in-1 laptop available with the best deal available.
Could you link it please?
Pretty sure Alex is ripped stoned! Happy Saturday!
Looks super comparable to the Microsoft laptop studio I just bought, except I can actually open up an HP! WHY MICROSOFT? 😭
For laptop gaming with something like this, I find that going for an in between resolution between 1280x720 and 1920x1080 works best. I usually go for 1600x900 (or whatever the 16:10 ratio would be) and it still looks pretty good. I've gotten a good 10-15 fps bump before by doing that.
It's common knowledge that picking a resolution that doesn't scale linearly to your display will look awful
@@huttonberries768 you would think, but it actually doesn't in my experience. Does it look as sharp as native, no. But I'm willing to sacrifice a little sharpness for a better overall gaming experience
The screen shakes so much when typing!
Anyone else thought they were watching JayzTwoCents just because of the background music?
I understand the convenience of USB-C power, but I really hoped they stopped using it in laptops. USB-C is not good for laptops if you are using them in uneven places (like on your lap). The connector will flex and become unreliable after a few months, no matter how much you care for it. The barrel connector can twist and has less chance of flexing. Not having USB-C as a power connector is actually a filter we've used for our latest purchases.
I didn't have issues with the feet coming off, but I did take them off after a couple of months to swap out the SSD (the one in the 13" one I have was garbage and vastly improved even with just a cheapish WD NVME 1TB drive.) But it was impossible to get them back in, I resorted to using super glue but it didn't really work. You can buy replacement strips from HP though I think.
HP X...BOX 360 THAT HAS AN SSD, ORIGINAL, AND RUN MINECRAFT WITHOUT CHOPPING/STUDDERING DUE TO THE GDDR3 512MB CLEARLY NOT OPTIMIZED FOR THE 2018 1.13 AQUATIC UPDATE? Jk, I'm just throwing my frustrations against a wall. I could try some Gelid or NAB thermal pads to improve temps and see if the memory/cpu+gpu combo was being held back.
holy shit that unboxing was awesome
I wish there was quality products in the $1k-$1.5k range. Every review I like when they say the price it is around $2k or over.
The screen is insanely wobbly fyi, even the new 12th gen models. So if you are like me and want to do a 45 fold backwards to rest on your lap to use as a tablet it's annoying. I tried it in store and you can clearly see it in the video. I passed due to that.
Yo there is literally a $799.00 rtx 3060 MSI laptop on best buy right now with a 10500h. what a beast deal lol that's the type of stuff they should be reviewing
Good first look! Although gimmickyish, the added camera features are quite cool!
How is it that Samsung pulls off nearly 15" oled that looks absolutely gorgeous but literally all the laptops screw it so bad? How do they blow up every time?
translation: i have never seen an HP OLED and believe everything some stranges on RUclips says...lol
The technology of yesterday at tomorrow’s prices!
I've had 2 decent hp laptops back to back and I find the batteries terrible, I used the first laptop for like not even 1.5 years and the battery was already dead and on the other one the battery was already dead at a half year of use.
Bang and OFULSEN...we will never forget Alex...