Funny this pops up in my feed. I just bought that exact spec HP yesterday at Best Buy for $1250 (on sale). I'm a person who prioritizes battery life and still likes ports so with the low price it was an absolute winner.
Does the HP Spectre actually come with the docking hub in the box? I purchased one with the exact specs but it did not come with the hub. HP says it does not include the hub in the box it is separate only as a bundle deal.
Had an envy 360 i7, loved it. Dropped and broke it. To replace I went with asus duo, totally does my head in. Not sure whether to go for another envy or go up to the spectre oled 13.5 i7. Any help please
This was the comparison I was waiting long ago. Thanks! Would be great to test the pen functionality. If I'm right, the xps plus doesn't support and active pen.
One possibly interesting new test category category that I think *a lot* of consumers are interested in: heat & fans during web browsing & office multi-tasking (e.g., Teams / Zoom / Meet call with screen sharing). How hot is it? How loud are the fans running?
i've done some reading on this and found that the more powerful the processor you buy, the louder and hotter it runs. So the XPS with an i5 chip will run significantly cooler than the XPS with the i7. Thus, it's not the laptop brand that makes the difference. When buying a new laptop, you want to match the performance to what you need- don't just buy the fastest CPU with the most cores possible.
I have used the Dell xps 13 plus for about a week now and I would have to say its the best small laptop that I have ever owned. Very easy & comfortable to use and so light & small. For me its almost perfect, I'll give it a 9.9 out of 10 bcuz of the lack of earphone jack.
Great review. I got the spectre December of 2021 and it has been my daily driver- productivity, hdr content consumption and it has been great. I don't even use iPad pro snymore.
Features are nice but reliability rules. For many decades, I have always learned more from the repairman than the salesman. Accordingly, it is interesting to note how many HP Spectre X360 that Alex of NorthridgeFix (see YT-channel of same name) has repaired since their lunch in 2015.
honestly not bad. Ever since Apple's M1, it feels vendors now put more thought into fan noise. On the Dell, it's legit far less than I've heard in the past in similar class laptops--and this one is much faster.
all these new laptops without sufficient ports - makes these useless. Carrying around dongles (which often break because of lousy USB standards) is inexcusable. Why is the world going backwards with portable devices? Also, I bought 3 laptops in the last year and ALL 3 developed faults within 2 months (without even being used much). Goes to show how flimsy these devices are. BTW I still have my dell inspiron laptop from 2001 with a geforce 256 and it still works great.
I'd love to see what would Gordon say about the EliteBook 845 G9 You can spec it with Ryzen 6000 APUs, it has two USB4 ports with Thunderbolt support and even a USB-A and HDMI ports.
I like the idea of the x360 design, a lot of uses and flexibility are nice in a laptop (or any device really.) However, I bought my parents an Envy a couple of years back, the pen functionality was garbage, useless for drawing and even if it wasn't the screen was waaay too flimsy (in my opinion) to be poking at it with a big plastic stick... Then after a couple of months (with little use) the hinge self destructed, which it turns out is a pretty common fault with those hinges (having a metal hinge screwed to a bit of weak plastic it seems isn't the best idea.) Still nice enough to use as a laptop, if the hinge doesn't go again (at least HP did repair it under warranty) but I wouldn't pay extra for features that just don't work all that well.
After 6 months of usage, the most disadvantage is the battery running away so fast maybe last for maximum 6hr working from 100% to 20%. I am really very upset.
All vendors can and have had design issues. Period. I don't honestly think the average person who uses these class of laptops needs or is willing to pay the premium for more RAM. Let's be honest: most people don't do squat on a laptop except browse, Office and very light duty content creation. So why make everyone take the extra cost? If you need more perf/RAM/etc. then choose the right tool for the right job.
@Imya Familiya 16GB is still very reasonable especially either an NMVe SSD system and I still can't see forcing all consumers to pay for 32GB of base RAM for that. More RAM costs more money.
@@lakshita6748 I have both the HP Spectre x360 from 2020(around 13 inches) and the 2023 (around 16 inches) in front of me and the difference is insane. One of them would be the fan noise. The 2023 is MUCH more quieter than 2020 and 2023 does not sound like a damn helicopter taking off after 30 minutes to 1 hour of RUclips usage. Of course keep in mind, I have just received this laptop today so there's no extreme downloads of my architecture and live wallpapers- but the difference is "in your face" type of deal.
I was a HP laptop user in the past, and now I am a Dell laptop user. The main reason I switched is because of the lack of services HP provides. But, after looking at the Spectre x360 13 at best buy, I wanted to give it a try, and when I compared the Spectre x360 13 to the Dell XPS 13 plus, I liked the Dell more (my personal choice) because I barely us external thumb drives or conventional USB connectors (I store everything in the cloud). When I decided to return the HP Laptop, they charged me 10% (~$125) as a restocking fee, which is not at all fair for such a top brand company, and if I wanted to return a Dell laptop it is hassle free, and their services are top notch, and one example I can say is the shipping time, for HP to ship and deliver it took minimum 5 business days, and dell delivered the laptop the very next day I placed the order, and I had to replace the Dell laptop that I first bought because of the miss alignment of one of the buttons on the keyboard, and the replacement one arrived on the 3rd business day from the day I placed the order. Finally the services between Dell and HP are like Heaven and Hell, and I wouldn't recommend HP over Dell, because their customer service sucked. So, if you don't care about the customer service, and don't mind HP breaking your bank by charging a hefty restocking fee from your wallet, then buy an HP laptop, and if you want top notch services then go for dell.
@@FakeGordonMahUng you could get a smaller Type-C charger if you plan to bring it outside as long as you don't game with it. It supports up to 100w with the new G14 but the older ones support only up to 65w
@@alesterpadua7884 Yeah, that works in theory but ask Ian Cutress about leaving the big power brick behind one day. Either way, it's a bigger and heavier laptop. In the end, you pick the best tool for your needs. While a faster CPU and GPU would be nice--many people really don't do much in ultra portable laptops. But again, pick the best tool for your needs.
@@chanthana7694 Too much blooming and the hinge made a weird noise every time I open it. In my house it wasn't too much of a problem, but in class... If I spent that much on a laptop I don't want everyone looking at me every time I open my laptop lmao
Funny this pops up in my feed. I just bought that exact spec HP yesterday at Best Buy for $1250 (on sale). I'm a person who prioritizes battery life and still likes ports so with the low price it was an absolute winner.
Did the EXACT same thing 3 days ago. 👍
Google mining your data and it knows more about you than your family😮
How do you like it? I'm considering getting it while it's on sale now too.
@@TheCodeda So far so good. There's a few unnecessary HP bloat apps, which are easily uninstallable. Other than that, it's been a dream to use.
Keep your eyes on open box sales. I bought one open box for $1k flat.
I go with the Spectre because it's cheaper, I like the new aspect ratio, and I like that it has ports.
When it comes to video editing, like 4k videos, and using Adobe Premiere and DaVince Resolve, which laptop is better? Or should I get something else?
Does the HP Spectre actually come with the docking hub in the box? I purchased one with the exact specs but it did not come with the hub. HP says it does not include the hub in the box it is separate only as a bundle deal.
Just found your reviews, and they are excellent!
Had an envy 360 i7, loved it. Dropped and broke it. To replace I went with asus duo, totally does my head in. Not sure whether to go for another envy or go up to the spectre oled 13.5 i7. Any help please
I wish Gordon would have shown off his drawing skills with that hp pen. I'd like to know how it compares to the surface pen.
This was the comparison I was waiting long ago. Thanks! Would be great to test the pen functionality. If I'm right, the xps plus doesn't support and active pen.
Correct, no active pen support.
I want to edit travel vlog for family. I wonder which laptop for me (to go, light, strong): Hp spectre or Dell? Thank you
One possibly interesting new test category category that I think *a lot* of consumers are interested in: heat & fans during web browsing & office multi-tasking (e.g., Teams / Zoom / Meet call with screen sharing). How hot is it? How loud are the fans running?
i've done some reading on this and found that the more powerful the processor you buy, the louder and hotter it runs. So the XPS with an i5 chip will run significantly cooler than the XPS with the i7. Thus, it's not the laptop brand that makes the difference. When buying a new laptop, you want to match the performance to what you need- don't just buy the fastest CPU with the most cores possible.
Good review. But the words spoken often to not match the slides on the screen. Example: HP screen is spoken to be 3x2 format. But slide says 16 x 10.
me mum worked for Hewett Packard years ago used to solder the legs on chipsets for motherboards
I'd love to see you play with some Lenovo Thinkpads, Dell Latitude, HP EliteBook. Some businessy stuff.
I have used the Dell xps 13 plus for about a week now and I would have to say its the best small laptop that I have ever owned. Very easy & comfortable to use and so light & small. For me its almost perfect, I'll give it a 9.9 out of 10 bcuz of the lack of earphone jack.
Great review. I got the spectre December of 2021 and it has been my daily driver- productivity, hdr content consumption and it has been great. I don't even use iPad pro snymore.
Nothing on the graphics chip?
Features are nice but reliability rules. For many decades, I have always learned more from the repairman than the salesman. Accordingly, it is interesting to note how many HP Spectre X360 that Alex of NorthridgeFix (see YT-channel of same name) has repaired since their lunch in 2015.
I think all laptops should be convertibles! Sometimes a person needs to put them in other positions than just clamshell.
I'd love to know which is noisier. Some high performance CPUs are unacceptably loud.
honestly not bad. Ever since Apple's M1, it feels vendors now put more thought into fan noise. On the Dell, it's legit far less than I've heard in the past in similar class laptops--and this one is much faster.
Thanks for the review Gordon! That HP laptop looks really nice.
No iGPU and thermal throttling comparison :/
I bought the Spectre and I love it!
all these new laptops without sufficient ports - makes these useless. Carrying around dongles (which often break because of lousy USB standards) is inexcusable.
Why is the world going backwards with portable devices?
Also, I bought 3 laptops in the last year and ALL 3 developed faults within 2 months (without even being used much). Goes to show how flimsy these devices are.
BTW I still have my dell inspiron laptop from 2001 with a geforce 256 and it still works great.
With the design I hope hp is watching this.
For me Dell's weak points are the keyboard and and touch pad; could have done a lot better!
Asus actually made a 16" 2in1 rog laptop if you want all, though it will be expensive and I don't know the compromises
Thanks, Gordon, for this look at two, somewhat different laptops.
Have to say I love HP's copper and charcoal style.
I agree here with HP this should be the form factor for 13 inch laptop
I'd love to see what would Gordon say about the EliteBook 845 G9
You can spec it with Ryzen 6000 APUs, it has two USB4 ports with Thunderbolt support and even a USB-A and HDMI ports.
I have the spectre and it’s magnificent !
Isn't it loud and hot as many people say?
Yeah does it make a lot of fan noise?
I like the idea of the x360 design, a lot of uses and flexibility are nice in a laptop (or any device really.) However, I bought my parents an Envy a couple of years back, the pen functionality was garbage, useless for drawing and even if it wasn't the screen was waaay too flimsy (in my opinion) to be poking at it with a big plastic stick... Then after a couple of months (with little use) the hinge self destructed, which it turns out is a pretty common fault with those hinges (having a metal hinge screwed to a bit of weak plastic it seems isn't the best idea.)
Still nice enough to use as a laptop, if the hinge doesn't go again (at least HP did repair it under warranty) but I wouldn't pay extra for features that just don't work all that well.
I've owned 4 HP Spectres (I keep upgrading) and haven't had any hinge issues.
@@lowbird7947 me too, i also own a spectre 13 and the only problem is the rubber feet fell off my laptop and i lost them
HP Spectre for me, Thanks for the great video.
Obviously HP cannot keepup in laptop race with their big border screen. Gladly, they're still have some hardcore fanbase.
what about Hinges
I think dell XPS hinge better then hp laptop
Compare these two with a MacBook Air M3.
Tried the XPS 13 plus keyboard, hated it. You can't tell where the tips of your fingers are at times.
Thank you for review. Worry about xps because of keyboard and motherboard issues
How can this guy say that upgrades are not important?
dell for the win..perfect portable size for me ..regarding the ports, a usb c hub that consist all other essential ports solves the issue..
9:30 you put 16:10
After 6 months of usage, the most disadvantage is the battery running away so fast maybe last for maximum 6hr working from 100% to 20%. I am really very upset.
Hp or Dell?
Dell of course
So Dell it is for the categories i care about..appreciate it
Whoever design the XPS 13 Plus is definitely someone who goes after bimbo in real life. (Aesthetic > Functionality)
32 gb should be standard by now.
300 dollars is a huge difference.
Doesn't the dell have huge hardware problems?
All vendors can and have had design issues. Period. I don't honestly think the average person who uses these class of laptops needs or is willing to pay the premium for more RAM. Let's be honest: most people don't do squat on a laptop except browse, Office and very light duty content creation. So why make everyone take the extra cost? If you need more perf/RAM/etc. then choose the right tool for the right job.
@@FakeGordonMahUng what about many chrome browser tabs on many virtual desktops?
@Imya Familiya 16GB is still very reasonable especially either an NMVe SSD system and I still can't see forcing all consumers to pay for 32GB of base RAM for that. More RAM costs more money.
The 1280p throttles in the Dell XPS. Beware.
Hp spectre is the winner. We can't compare 360 2 in 1 spectra with normal 180 laptop. Obviously 2in 1 has to be thicker. Hp spectre is the winner 🏆
I've had two spectre x360 , both got about 3-4 hours battery on full brightness watching youtube
so there is that
Hey. Thanks for your review. I’m looking to get this laptop, so could you tell me about the hinge as I’ve heard some complaints regarding that?
And also is it too loud? The fan noise etc?
@@lakshita6748 I have both the HP Spectre x360 from 2020(around 13 inches) and the 2023 (around 16 inches) in front of me and the difference is insane. One of them would be the fan noise. The 2023 is MUCH more quieter than 2020 and 2023 does not sound like a damn helicopter taking off after 30 minutes to 1 hour of RUclips usage. Of course keep in mind, I have just received this laptop today so there's no extreme downloads of my architecture and live wallpapers- but the difference is "in your face" type of deal.
I think the spectra 360 is more beautiful
clever report framework. mb
Thats bad Gordon top bin v bottom bin . . . mb
So the bottom bin is fast for bottom bin? mb
I was a HP laptop user in the past, and now I am a Dell laptop user. The main reason I switched is because of the lack of services HP provides. But, after looking at the Spectre x360 13 at best buy, I wanted to give it a try, and when I compared the Spectre x360 13 to the Dell XPS 13 plus, I liked the Dell more (my personal choice) because I barely us external thumb drives or conventional USB connectors (I store everything in the cloud). When I decided to return the HP Laptop, they charged me 10% (~$125) as a restocking fee, which is not at all fair for such a top brand company, and if I wanted to return a Dell laptop it is hassle free, and their services are top notch, and one example I can say is the shipping time, for HP to ship and deliver it took minimum 5 business days, and dell delivered the laptop the very next day I placed the order, and I had to replace the Dell laptop that I first bought because of the miss alignment of one of the buttons on the keyboard, and the replacement one arrived on the 3rd business day from the day I placed the order. Finally the services between Dell and HP are like Heaven and Hell, and I wouldn't recommend HP over Dell, because their customer service sucked. So, if you don't care about the customer service, and don't mind HP breaking your bank by charging a hefty restocking fee from your wallet, then buy an HP laptop, and if you want top notch services then go for dell.
with the size of these laptop, Asus ROG Zephyrus G14 would be good enough for me. Don't really need something more premium
I love the ROG G14, but the power brick and the laptop itself is definitely a step up in weight and size over these.
@@FakeGordonMahUng you could get a smaller Type-C charger if you plan to bring it outside as long as you don't game with it. It supports up to 100w with the new G14 but the older ones support only up to 65w
@@alesterpadua7884 Yeah, that works in theory but ask Ian Cutress about leaving the big power brick behind one day. Either way, it's a bigger and heavier laptop. In the end, you pick the best tool for your needs. While a faster CPU and GPU would be nice--many people really don't do much in ultra portable laptops. But again, pick the best tool for your needs.
It is not that tough a call TBH…the MB Pro 14 M1😅
DVD ps5
Dell or HP? Marvel or DC? PS or Xbox?
I don’t think I’m supposed to be here
On my dell xps, that's one of the main things for me, I never know when I'm on function keys or accessory keys.... this dell fixes that problem
Spectre feels too clunky
USB-C charging port on the Spectre is the epitome of cost-cutting poor design with no durability. "Premium" SMH
i will just SIT BACK AND WATCH YOU FALL while i get stronger and get my finances returned to me.
The Dell wipes the floor with HP
*But it's opposite day.*
Dell build quality, historically, has always exceeded that of HP.
Yup, I got this Spectre and my brother got the 13 Plus… I made a horrible choice, but hey, I already spent the money so I gotta suck it up
@@Spidr-ManI'm debating between the two, simply because I don't want to spend too much. What was wrong with you hp if you don't mind me asking.
@@chanthana7694 Too much blooming and the hinge made a weird noise every time I open it. In my house it wasn't too much of a problem, but in class... If I spent that much on a laptop I don't want everyone looking at me every time I open my laptop lmao
@@Spidr-Man that's good to know and I hear you, definitely don't want to draw attention. I'm sorry that you had to deal with that. Thanks!
@@Spidr-Manstill think this way?
Everything from HP is ugly.
None of this is any good
overpriced crap