LIVE! Unbelievable Text Messages In The Daybell Trial - Will They Be The Key To The Conspiracy?
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Chad Daybel is like the Homer Simpson of serial
killers.
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Doh!! 🤦
Except they almost got away with it if it hadn’t been for the fbi tracing her brother’s cell phone pings they never would have found the kids. Tammy was originally ruled natural causes which was ridiculous.
They didnt want to divorce , that would mean no life insurance pay outs
And, Charles would still be around to advocate for the whereabouts of his kids.
@@lisasullivan1247 Charles did want a divorce but she talked him out of it because she wanted that insurance money. He changed the beneficiary and didn't tell her, he should have maybe she would have not killed him knowing she would get no money
Just don't understand how people can kill for insurance money how can that even enter their mind
@@arrivagabry Lori still got SSB survivor benefits money $6k/m. Even if Charles divorced Lori she still would receive the SSB survivor benefits for JJ. This why she was already getting SSB benefits for Tylee Ryan as she was divorced from Joe Ryan.
@@famousamos1 I know but she was greedy more was better
I like that police officer! He doesn’t let Prior to manipulate him.
I do too. He's slick. Daybells lawyer seems to be asleep at the wheel.
Agreed Lisa, he did a great job deflecting Priors manipulations. Clearly has a lot of experience testifying in court
I would have loved to have been in the room when Lori Vallow found out she wasn’t the beneficiary of Charles’s life insurance 😂
There is Not video of that, but there is a phone call with Lorie and the insurance company…explaining she is not the beneficiary.
Oh can u imagine how pissed she must’ve been!
Charles had to send an email to L&G bc he couldn't pass security over the phone. They said (employees name was Kevin who took Charles' call btw) write in or email us and we will get it investigated bc Charles said he NEVER had a pw on that particular ac and flipped bc he couldn't pass verbal security with Kevin. Charles emailed them immediately and he put a pw on the ac.
He also admitted to Kevin on this same call, that HIS WIFE had withdrew $50k from his bank (think it was biz but can't remember for sure or personal ac) and he now confidently suspected she was messing with his L&G ac. He also changed his address too. I'll dig out the audio link, I only listened to it, just the other day. Scary stuff eh. This, coupled with the knowledge he was being targeted to be unalived 😢😢💔💔
I'd love to hear her psychiatrist questioning her. What made you leap from divorce to killing everyone?. Do you feel you didn't quite think things thru and the possibility of prison or even the death penalty from those plans that might go wrong? Etc.
Oh I totally forgot what if someone killed Chad because he was dark or killed your mother would you want justice or would that be okay in the name of end times?
This crazy b. Doesn't have a shred of empathy, it's missing from her brain. Her psychiatrist must be beside himself to hear her crazy ass answers.
ABSOLUTELY
The fact that she refused to incriminate him actually makes him look like the leader and incriminates him even more
Lori had more incriminating evidence against her, I also think she actually bought into this garbage. Lori had Chad wrapped around her little finger. She didn't realize how spineless that worm is.
Everyone called Chad ‘Dad’. Even Ian. Ian says it was to support Melanie cause Melanie called him Dad, but Ian only knew a Melanie for weeks before calling this random toad dad.
Chad was the leader.
BINGO!!!!
Chad is as Guilty as Guilty gets!!!
Absolutely - he created the 'Zombie' theory, how the body has to be killed off once someone becomes a 'Zombie", he rated people as Dark and Light and how bad they were, he was the one the dished out the 'blessings' and in the same way the 'castings', he created this stupid religion - that Lori followed to the letter. The children were an obstacle (I notice none of Chad's children were ever 'Dark' or 'Zombies") but Lori's children had to go!! Tylee did not like Chad at all, Tylee knew he was bad news.
HELL YEAHHHH
@@JohnCarroll-tr3bk you said it Buddy!!! I hope that is the reaction of the jury - Hell YEAHHHHHH!!!!!
Chad and Lori believe they are walking and talking with God when they are walking and talking with The Devil!!!
100% They absolutely sold their souls to the devil.
They're cult members
I agree ❤
Exactly
No, they didn’t believe that but they want us to believe it…comical 😭😭😭
I think we all believe Melanie and Alex’s wife and others were more involved and less innocent than they pretend to be but that doesn’t mean Chad isn’t guilty as charged - trying to push the blame on others is simply avoiding the fact that they have no real defense for Chad
💯 I agree with you
I've seen crimes where an entire family knew, but kept their mouths shut. They weren't guilty of any legal breach, but moral... yeah.
Exactly! More charges and more guilt to share, not to take some from Chad. There is enough guilt l, misery and evil in this mess nobody is completely clean or innocent except Tammy, Charles, JJ and Tylee.
I think that is a very fair assessment.
When he was hitting at Melanie for potentially not asking after JJ that morning after he disappeared the obvious question is…Chad was Lori’s lover and soul mate…and he wed her, travelled the world, was privy to all her finances and knew ALL her contacts and HE never asked where her daughter or son were and why she didn’t have to support them financially? He just moved on telling the entire world they had died or that they had no children.
So at some point after they died he found out she killed her children to be with him and just stayed with her and supported her in jail?
Charles was killed intentionally. She was expecting his million dollar life insurance but unbeknownst to her, he’d changed his beneficiary from her to his sister.
Lori specifically grabbed Charles' cell phone away from him and ran into the house to lure Charles into the house where Alex was waiting to murder him.
this is still my favorite detail out of the whole mess. Lori getting duped like that.🤌🏼
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Only thing, I wonder if he’d been killed if she knew there was no cash payday for the act. 😵
I still think Chad should be implicated in charles' death, bc of the money, they Both wanted him gone, and they( Chad and Lori) were already having an affair
@@BeegirlsHoneyHouseI still think he would’ve been killed because he would have raised hell about the kids being gone
I don't think Chad ever believed his own bs, just wanted to sell books and have a sense of power over others. Between the squad car conversation with his daughter and these texts he might as well hold up a giant neon guilty sign as far as I'm concerned.
Yes! His convo with his daughter while he was in the squad car is proof of consciousness of guilt. They hadn't even told him what they found and he's making arrangements with her because he knew he wasn't coming back.
I don't think he believed his BS. It was about getting people, especially women, to idolize him. Power and control. I do think his kids are true believers, though, especially Emma
I always wonder if people like him truly believe the stuff they are spouting or not. It's hard to decipher at times when it comes to religious nuts. However, I always come back to the thinking that, if, like people during genuine mental breakdowns, they really believe it, then they would still stand by their beliefs during police interviews and court proceedings.
I agree he didn't believe his BS it was just a tool to get what he wanted, money and power, and screw women by telling them they were married in another life. It worked with Lori, maybe not with the others.
If he believed his own crap, he wouldn’t be sweating bullets. And he’d be portal-ing his way out of jail…. He knows his lies are being exposed! He’s going down fast!
In reviewing the chat, some folks kept asking why they just didn't get a divorce instead of killing people. MONEY. Divorces cost money and other losses. Million dollar life insurance policies, and SSDI checks were, in part, the motive.
True. 💯 Other than DV or stalker cases, fewer childless ( no insurance) middle class couples resort to murder because there is no child support involved.
Custody battles usually also boil down to support payment.
Money money money.
Given that Tammy was the main breadwinner while he pissed money away on his books, he probably would’ve gotten some alimony. However he wanted it ALL, and he definitely didn’t want something like a divorce on his record. “Important patriarchal leaders of god,” such as he fashioned himself, don’t get divorces or people whispering that it was because of an affair.
Chubby wrote 25 books and peddled them on his website he set up in 2000. Yes, I checked out his URL/domain name 😉😉 ps. It's due for renewal in 2025. Wonder what bank ac he uses for his book royalties and domain name renewal/s (he may have more than one).
Neither one of them were too keen on working jobs😂
i keep seeing supposedly Godly men receiving a “word from the Lord” that their wife would die young😒🙄🥴
It would be funny if it wasn’t a disaster.
Why would Chad fear going to jail if he could see he life’s plan… it’s all so absurd and anyone that fell for his nonsense are beyond dumb
Good point!
It’s ok… I’m sure they see each other through the portal 😂
Beyond dumbell yep, I don't get these cults. At least come up with a good story of your gonna start a cult, but there all the same, about power over other deep rooted narcissism and se×. Every time, ever GD time!
@@buck4science1 right! cell block portal call coming through 'please hold.' charles tried to get her help, but the life insurance change was her snapping point. she had those kids chopped up to hurt all that loved them. slug's adult children refuse to see what colby has the common sense to understand. they protect him just as his lost not-LDS flock!
I think it shows how easily the mind can be warped through religion....
wow, the cheeeek of chad, telling everybody that Tammy would die young. poor tammy.
Mostly the other women he was having affairs with while he didn't work/barely worked and Tammy worked to support them both and support his delusion that he was an author. It doesn't count as being an author if you self-publish to a group of curated weirdos Chad.
@@GracieSpacecadet😂😂😂😂 Well said! Well said!
Prior acts like Chad saying for years that Tammy was going to die young is proof of his innocence when it actually just means he’s wanted out of his marriage for a long time.
@@elless4817 exactly! I pray the jurors see it this way too.
He was the PROPHET & talked to Jesus & angels...what do you expect 😂😂😂
This is the most absurd crap I’ve ever heard “light and dark scores etc” “I have two lives and this and that” disgustingly absurd
Self serving 💩 crap
Absurd.
Mostly Mormon doctrine, except for the ratings.
I never learned that crap when I was in the Mormon church. Some of it is vaguely Mormon, but mostly bastardized.
It reminded me of how the blacks were considered "unworthy" and less than whites (who are delightsome). It's the same mentality. If they were remotely following Christian doctrine, they would know that ALL races, colors and creeds were created by God and they were ALL good. We are all equal, we are all created by God, but we're not all His children. Only those who profess Jesus Christ as Lord and follow Him and Him alone.
Chad just put a different spin on it. If you were to study Mormonism from the beginning, this really is coming from Joseph Smith's playbook. If they knew Biblical teachings, they are NO other lives. You get one life and that's it. Mormonism teaches multiple lives, gods, all sorts of weird, unbiblical things.
This all gave me flashbacks to the insanity of Mormonism.
If I were a juror, I can tell you, I would be put off with the manner in which Prior presents his defense. To me, his approach is just bullying the witnesses most of the time. Occasionally he may make some good points, but the way he delivers his cross, I would have zero respect for him and his approach, therefore I would not trust what he is trying to get to. I guess he may be doing as well as could be done, but treating the witnesses with disrespect just doesn't sit well with me at all. And we've just seen a drop in the bucket of the evidence so far (based on what was presented in Lori's trial). I think there's no way Chad will escape this. Thank you Peter for your insight as always. I learn so much from you (the augmentative question explanation was great!) and I love how you are not biased either way -- you just explain how you see what's happening! You are the best!
Agree 100%
IMO the way Prior, Chad & Daybell-Murray were so disrespectful to Tammy''s memory and about Tammy is Despicable
I have watched a lot of cases, and the defence lawyers really victim blame
I have watched this case from the beginning since the children were missing and I still have a hard time wrapping my head around this way of thinking
Same here....
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I think it’s a good thing that we can’t understand it!
They are satanically possessed.
This is what happens when there is no adult in the room to tell Chad that his fantasies are not prophecy and you have a ditsy blonde bimbo that is all too happy to play the staring role in an End Times Rapture drama with just enough insurance money and tropical locations to make it completely self indulgent.
Chaddy Potter's life will be in 2 parts, life till he met Lori, and then life in jail till he passes.
“Chaddy Potter” is hilarious! 😂 He couldn’t even get the reference right!
@@mxnjones I confess, that reference was how Gigi referred to him after he had made a comparison to his life under the stairs like Harry Potter. Gigi is hilarious, great humor and spot on!🤣😆🤣
If the “angels were mad” just because Lori quit talking to Chad for a day, can you imagine what he would have told her if she went out and killed her kids and put them on his property without him knowing?! But instead he calls Lori and tells her he loves her.
I might be overstepping in my opinion but, I could see in their way of thinking that the children were a type of sacrifice.
@@Planet_Shelyes, to their own selfish desires.
@@Planet_Shelyeah nah that’s satanic not Christian
AND makes sure he tells Emma to keep putting $30/week on loris commissary book! But he’s not guilty
@@BeccaLavelle483they arent christian, theyre mormon.
You nailed it! I’m a member of the LDS faith and do find Chad and Lori’s beliefs system so strange, cringe, and not normal. Those jurors are probably shocked. I know I was when I first learned of this case. I was like, “what on earth?! These guys are crazy!”
Me too! I've been a member for over 20 years and hearing these people completely manipulate and falsify our doctrine for their twisted purposes absolutely blows my mind. Side note-I appreciate Peter being so respectful when it comes to referring to the church.
I'm afraid to say that LDS doctrine isn't much better than this drivel once you take a looks t it from the outside. Excluding the darkness ratings, the cultish essence is blow for blow identical.
Chad and Lori are occultists, and because they were playing around with demonic spirits, are both demon possessed. In addition, Lori is 100% verifiably insane, which is what happens when you play around with the occult.
Crazy stuff. They live in their own little fake world. Under the stairs ..
Thank you so much for sympathizing with members of the LDS church following this trial. I’m a member and it’s horrible to see people twisting our doctrine into something bizarre and evil to justify these heinous crimes.
I know, it's especially frustrating because none of their nonsense is anything like LDS doctrine.
You should watch Mormon Stories Podcast. The religion is based on lies by a Charlatan.
As an ex Mo, I can say that this IS very much like the LDS doctrine. So tired of Mormons acting like it isn't. The ratings for light and dark are the ONLY thing I've heard that isn't straight from Mormon doctrine. Please, what else isn't from your doctrine? Daybell has pretty much followed the playbook of Joseph Smith.
@@jamiem2444 That's not true, it's almost ALL straight from the Mormon playbook. Daybell is actually doing what Joseph Smith did, but since you're still a member, you may not be aware of how all that went down.
@@samsmom400can you explain? What did this Joseph Smith do that Chad copied? Did Smith kill his wife to marry someone else too? Do LDS people call others light and dark, etc? Who is Joseph Smith or are you using that name as like a John Doe? Sorry, I don’t know much about these things. Another commenter said they are an exmo…do you know what/who that is?
I was raised in the LDS church here in Utah. None of what they did is real. Also Jodi Hildebrandt. Both Chad and Jodi went off their rockers.
I grew up with LDS kids They were my only play mates & I think of them still at 71.
@@denisekinzle1672this could happen in any religion. It has nothing to do with LDS. America gives us freedom to worship as we want. Chad and his followers were just plain practicing Satanic evil.
This garbage of married in past life living with Jesus is not LDS doctrine. Nor is 99% of what they talk about. The rest of the 1% is seriously screwed. Going to the temple with someone you're having an affair with to be 'sealed' is so far from ok, I just can't wrap my head around this. I can't believe the body count is so high! How many families and futures they have destroyed!😢
LDS are already crazy with their golden plates and magical underwear
Im LDS and I have to say , we get that all the time⬆️⬆️😂
I grew up LDS in Springville. Chad and Tammy Daybell were my Sunday school teachers, and Tammy was my tent group leader in girls camp one year. This whole thing is absolutely wild.
I'm confused, were they together then? Or they were separate SS teachers?
@@girlfriend126they were teaching together. They were fairly newly-wed at the time
@@reachingbeyond1316 ohhh I see, my mind read Lori when it said Tammy LOL that makes sense. Was she as lovely as described?
@@girlfriend126she was nice enough but super quiet. Both kinda seemed to keep to themselves. Of course, I was early teens so my perspective could be totally different than others
Just wild,is that all?
What people don’t realize is when chad started saying Tammy was going to go early, he was flirting with Julie Rowe. So, I believe he started saying that because they were, either, having an affair or on the verge of one. So, he was saying that because of Julie Rowe, in my opinion. I do believe, after hearing the way he treated the bees, Chad may be a serial K……! It’s why he enjoyed his job at the cemetery, he was fascinated with people who weren’t alive.
Bees? Off to Google CD and bees. 🏃🏻♀️🏃🏻♀️🏃🏻♀️
What about the bees?
He was a grave digger because he had no talent
I am a new RUclipsr. Following the Murdaugh trial brought me to RUclips in acquiring the full scope of information about that story in its entirety. With the endless content given by a variety of podcasts I viewed. Somehow I stumbled across LYK. I must say that you are doing a phenomenal job!! KUDOS!!
Hope you subscribe and become part of the LYK family. Peter is an actual attorney, so is his dad who comes on with Peter occasionally. They both will go over these cases & explain the ins & outs so we understand. You really couldn't have found a better channel. I have been watching for over a year & I love it. I hope to see you in some of the live streams.
Also check out It’s A Crime. She’s done DEEP DEEP dives if you’re interested. She has a whole Daybell playlist.
So does Hidden True Crime. Which was the very first one I watched. With Lauren and Dr. John Matthias. Lauren is a former TV Reporter, and her Husband, Dr. John Matthias is a Forensic Psychologist.
Thank you SO MUCH for your suggestions on other informative podcast.
I think the fact that Lori would not turn on Chad during her trial tells you who was leading and who was following. Chad came right out of the gate throwing Lori (and Alex) under the bus. At least, Lori is much more devoted.
It amazes me that with these messages, his kids can still support him.
@avarice3333, your question is legitimate & not offensive. I live in Arkansas, and I am a conservative Christian. This area is considered part of the “Bible Belt.” In most small towns in the south, there are many denominations of churches. It is very common for church fellowship to be a major part of the average family’s life. But, there are also people in many denominations, not just LDS-which is not even prominent here-that venture away from the truth of scripture. And, yes, there are very many differing views of what the scriptures are saying. Oftentimes, in my area especially, where there are a few very fine lines of understanding that’s completely game-changers in acceptance or really socializing at anything except surface level. Some of those include: who was Jesus Christ, Trinity, Salvation by faith in Christ, Baptism, Security of the believer etc. Interaction among the parishioners from different denominations, is easier to do if there is mutual respect & understanding that everyone has a right to believe what he/she believes & you don’t argue over differences. What the Daybells’ have done is beyond the scope of normal & has only decreased the opportunity for folks who may have not grown up around traditional faith/based religion-thinking that all people of faith are weird & self-seeking fortune & fame mongers. This is so not true. But, I believe that if a person really wants to find God, he will not give up and scripture teaches us in Jeremiah 29:13 “And ye shall seek me, and find me, when you shall search for me with all your heart.” Hope this helped some…
I just spoke of the same scripture. 😍 My thoughts to a sceptic follow. (BTW- people can be sceptics, scoffers or seekers.) If people let the Bible read them by opening the Good Book (John, Romans, etc. ) they would know the Truth and the truth will set them free. Cults flourish because people don’t take personal responsibility to know their own Bible! And please don’t criticize if you haven’t let it read you! Hebrews 4:12. “For the Word of God is ALIVE and active and sharper than any two edged sword, piercing even between the joints and the marrow to discern the thoughts and the intentions of the heart.” Jesus is LOGOS, the WORD made flesh Who dwells among us. 🙌🏼
He is the WAY, the TRUTH and the LIFE… the LIGHT, the GOSPEL (which means GOOD NEWS!) 🙌🏼
Please let Him lead you and love you. ❤️🕊️🤍Biblegateway.com is just a click or two away.
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I didn't think a relationship with Jesus and God needed to be as complicated as this LDS religion seems to be! The layers of prophets and rules etc etc. It seems like a real mishmash of whatever was in the World before Joseph Smith got his visits. Maybe a "confuse the masses" doctrine, keep them from exploring the truth for themselves. Thankyou for your comment it was very interesting.❤
If a person is to find their personal God, it is most likely not in the church of someone else.
... Once hear and identify with a quote from I know not who:
"There is no hate...
like Christian love."
@@quiltygal6981 The relationship with God and Jesus are not at all complicated by the LDS religion. LDS members are able to love and worship God and Jesus Christ just as easily as members of any other religion. At least for me, it was and still isn't, difficult for me. I'm currently inactive, but that hasn't changed my relationship with the Lord. I guess I don't understand what you're referring to. I'm sorry.
@quiltygal but the “layers of prophets” and rules aren’t exclusive to Mormon brand of Christianity. It’s that way in Baptist/Protestant/Catholic/Evangelical/etc churches too…
Such a sick, demented case. My heart goes out to the investigators and other professionals involved with all this. (and of course, all the victims and their families.) I just can't fathom this evil.
Thank you for explaining the stuff that happens in the courtrooms. It's like a foreign language. You have the best law channel on RUclips! ❤
Most (95%) of us LDS are hearing this is about casting and portals and dark scores and zombies for the first time. It's Chad Daybellism, not Mormonism.
Chad Daybellism. Oh no, now yiu started a new cult! Not really lol 😂
I'm no longer religious but I think/hope that most people understand that there are bad apples in every religion or organisation. As someone who was raised as a Jehovah's Witness, even though I left almost 30 yrs ago I still feel pain and shame at the CSA horrors, amidst others, that they perpetrated and hid for decades, and continue to hide, so I feel for your position. This is on Chad and Lori. Let's hope for justice ❤️
Exactly, is common in religion but not exclusive. Anytime there's a position where somebody can grab power ($$$) there will be somebody that will abuse it.
Well your cult isn't speaking up against them OR RUBY & JODY...Im sorry but you really need to look at the spiritual & emotional blackmail w in LDS!! Plus its just strange, cringe patriarchal power $$$ structure in your organization.
I think we (LDS) are just as shocked and cringed out following these nutjobs and feel for the victims in all these cases. Charles vs Chad? 😮
Prior is doing a good job of zealously advocating for his client, but does he have to be so condescending and obnoxious? Doesn't that just make it harder for the jury to have any sympathy for his client?
He is doing a excellent job
I think he is one of the most pleasant defence lawyers I have seen in these trials.
I understand your perspective. He does sound condescending but he is doing his job.
Has someone that set on many juries even a Dr Murder For Hire. The way that he talks to Witnesses nasty rude condescending and then not listening to the judge when he has stated multiple times to shut his mouth when there is an objection to one of his questions. As a juror that kind of attitude is really bad whether it's the defense or the state. It most definitely comes up when you deliberate
I think he’s doing a great job, personally. He’s only annoying when put into context that he’s defending Chad Daybell.
He has no way out, if he’s found guilty it’s premeditated and his premeditation even predates his relationship with Lori, starting with Tammy. The children were buried on his property. There’s not any room for doubt in Tammy’s and other cases, due to the evidence of the children’s murders. There’s nothing in between for him. The law is very clear. I don’t think any reasonable person can look at this and say oh, well he killed the children in the name of his supernatural beliefs which are completely false but, his wife was just his premonition and he’s actually gifted. Oh, and the husband of his mistress cum wife was self-defense. It had nothing to do with him and his-partner in crime Do-boy Alex was also just a coincidence - except he profited from every single death - oh, but, they were all just coincidentally related. No. It’s first degree on every single count.
Pryor really lost on that one the detective just connected the dots, the state would have had to connect them differently.
The jurors got a clearer picture.
It wasn't just about becoming dark but once you hit a certain number you became a zombie which means you were possessed by something and that's why they changed your name Charles then became Ned that's when your life was over. Maybe that couple didn't get to be zombies yet. But I believe Kay was next
Kay was Rhonda
@@TheRealLittleBiddle Oh no! 😨
@@TheRealLittleBiddle I KNOW it has NOTHING to do with me, but when I first heard Lori and Chad's name for Kay I was like 😳😲
@@TheRealLittleBiddleI have no doubt, had Lori and Chad had access to Kay, she would be dead. She was lucky that she was so far out of their sphere of contact that they didn’t fixate on her. And tellingly she may have been as dark as anyone…but she didn’t die because she wouldn’t benefit Chad and Lori financially to die.
Shows the motives to the murders were the money…not the religious beliefs to me.
May the actually believed their BS about light and dark. But they didn’t kill people because they were dark. They killed people for money and justified it to themselves by saying it was OK because they were dark.
Chad’s dark, if you ask me?!
Thank you for covering this case. I can’t handle listening to John Pryor all day so the recaps really help.
You gotta love how Lori's nickname for Chad's manhood was "storm", something no one looks forward to, and they even put out a warning for. 😂
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lol - “what book, line and verse talks about life insurance policies”
Perfectly Stated!
My biggest shock in this entire case was that Chads kids are still standing beside a CHEATING/ lying child killer! I would not be shocked to learn down the road that they were aware of all of this crap!
Today, they showed texts between 2 of his kids talking to Chad about the light/dark bs. Chad even rated a child in Sunday school a 4 dark... His daughter Emma replied that she was shocked that he was dark because she liked him and thought he was a good kid. So creepy
Yes they are FOLLOWERS😱😱😱
I'm noticing, this is the first time I have seen Chad not sitting with his his head held high
This case (the relationship between C &L) is like a cheap erotic novel written for teenagers. Almost as bad as MM and Harry🤮🤮🤮
They are gross. Their “sexting” is so cringe; it’s worse than if they were actually talking dirty.
@@techninja4136lol
rent free………
So, have neither Chad nor Lori heard of divorce?? You feel trapped then you get divorced. You don't kill the people. Money is involved in this. They both wanted the insurance payouts.
Lori was divorced from her 1st and 2nd husbands. I'm not sure if she was divorced from Joe Ryan before he was killed. She knows what divorce means, it means no life insurance pay out. 😮
There are a few active LDS reporters/ you tubers that give great explanations of church lingo. Daybell made up his own beliefs and tried to recruit LDS members, using the Temple and other verbage.
I had a incident many years ago with a follower of Julie Rowe. I have never felt so weird and uncomfortable.
lol Peter…”yughhh…” reading their text outloud. 😂
Well, Brandon was dark and he’s not dead either, but not for lack of trying. No telling where it would have all ended.
The timing of the attempt on Brandon's life is important. He was not yet divorced from Melani b, he also had a million dollar life insurance policy.. which Melani b would have recieved.
@@missmiss5051You’re correct. Thereafter Lori and Chad would have convinced Melani easily to give them that 1M for their 144 gathering. They used everyone for monetary, support, murderous or manipulative reasons only.
Have you watched the video of melani trying to get to their kids? Alex was with her, she got caught 2 nights in a row. Brandon went into hiding with their kids, he likely saved their lives as well as his own.
Dont forget about how Brandon and Melanie’s kids were considered dark. I believe Mel and Alex went to get them from Brandon and were planning their demise. The story here is so outrageous there’s no way the jury could believe anything but that Chad Daybell is guilty of every charge against him.
@@denisecerny4166 I believe this was totally possible!
The defense should bring in a walking dead expert.
We need to come up with better self-defense laws for zombies 😂
Hilarious thought although it wouldn’t surprise me if JP tried this😂
Or at least Doc from Z Nation lol
Zombies have rights too 😅
No subpoena, no show.
Of all the judges of all the trials we've watched together, I think this judge is exceptional he gets all the calls he pays attention he knows the law so specific. I would love to see you just pull out some of the best calls from this judge and go over why he is so exceptional and sets the bar
If I truly felt like my husband would leave me behind at a young age. Id fear speaking about it, would cause it to come true.
& I definitely wouldn't want to risk our kids or spouse finding out.
Peter, are you going to cover Kouri Richin’s trial?
He says he is going to cover it
@@Atalinay thanks. That should be another good one.
I do appreciate your coverage and point-of-view as a lawyer. Thank you so much Peter. Watching from UK 😊
Js, I was dying laughing while you read about the nakedness 😂😂😂
Chad had a bad case of, what he called, 'loin fire' 😂
For the first time ever the court audio is louder than your voice, Peter. Usually it’s too quiet. Almost have it dialed. Thanks for all you do !
Thank you for continuing to point out that this is NOT part of the main stream LDS religion. Life time member here just trying to live the golden rule & help my neighbor.
YES! It IS mainstream Mormonism, except for the ratings. Name something that isn't!
What's your feeling on so many Bishops being found out to be child abusers? I can't imagine how many are being protected to 'protect' the church above the protection of children?
@@samsmom400no one says we have been married to other people in precious lives. The only thing different between LdS church marriages and. Other Christian marriages is they continue after the resurrection. Every other religion marries until death on this earth. We read and believe the same Bible as other Christian churches. The problem here is Chad is totally wrong in the things he is saying. He has no authority to say or do these from the church. He is totally on his own and a fringe org. It’s sad really in many ways.
@@dorothyd7929 They do protect pedophiles and the "church" corporation comes above and beyond everyone and everything else. ALWAYS. All the time. Melanie Gibb wasn't kidding when she said, "I wanted to protect the "church".
Having dealt with it first hand, I know it absolutely happens on a regular basis. It's the "dirty little secret" that they hide. Everyone knows about it. That's one of the 3 reasons I left.
If someone rises in the Mormon "church", they have to be complicit in this. Knowing what I know now, I would NEVER EVER let a child of mine EVER spend ONE MINUTE with ANYONE from that cult. Because I know if something DID happen, they would lie about it.
Pedophilia is rampant in that organization. I do know a former "sister" who was raped repeatedly by her father while she was growing up and her mother would come in afterwards and tell her that God wanted her to learn how to deal with it, that's what her purpose was in this life. Something like that.
Her father was the bishop. This is not uncommon.
@@cindyxci First of all, you are Mormon, not Christian. Your cult doesn’t follow or believe basic Biblical principles.
Mormons don’t believe in the Trinity. That is critical to followers of Jesus Christ.
Mormons believe that Satan and Jesus are brothers. They are NOT. Jesus is the ONLY begotten Son of God.
Mormons believe that God was once a man and he had to achieve perfection through multiple lives to become a God.
Mormons also believe that they knew each other before coming to planet Earth.
Mormons also believe they get their own planet and become gods. Christian’s don’t want to become gods. We just want to go to heaven and be with Jesus Christ.
Mormonism teaches that worthy Mormon men may follow the same path as Heavenly Father (“the law of eternal progression”). They can evolve from preexistence to mortal human existence to divine exaltation. Women too may achieve celestial exaltation, becoming like Heavenly Mother, the wife of God the Father, though the LDS church admits their knowledge of Heavenly Mother is limited.
In sum, the LDS God (Heavenly Father) is an exalted man who once lived on a planet like ours. He achieved celestial exaltation, exists with a physical body in the celestial realm, has Heavenly Mother as his eternal wife, and populates our planet with his children.
Don’t even get me started on the whole “mark of Cain” and how blacks are inferior to whites. You know that your doctrine says that if you aren’t 100% white when you die, you can’t go to the celestial kingdom, you know that, right?
You do not read the same Bible. Joseph Smith made changes to it. We don’t have the same beliefs AT ALL!!!! Not even close!!
As for the Bible, if the Mormons actually read and STUDIED the Bible, you’d know that you were in a false religion.
Mormonism will take a few verses and insert them once in a while, but the corporation never reads the Bible verse by verse, chapter by chapter, book by book. If you did, it would destroy everything you know.
Daybell is NOT “fringe”, the Mormon corporation sold his books and therefore gave him the “seal of approval”. If you knew about Mormon history and how it evolved, you’d know that Chad was using Joseph Smith’s playbook.
This case, and the Karen Reed case, are so convoluted that they give me a headache. I mean.……… who does these things? Both cases are way out of the box. I think that’s why we were also fascinated by them. Those cases are just weird, and insane. Peter, thanks for bringing both of these cases to us, and offering your commentary. I am always interested in hearing your perspective, because you pretty much filter, everything through what you know about the law, which is a lot, and the necessary grace that we all need, because we are all imperfect.
Tammy D was by all accounts a devoted wife and mother. Chad was no grand prize! It’s so tragic that her life ended way too soon! Chad and Lori were each on power trips in their own ways. They fed into one another’s worst instincts. Lori may have been externally attractive…but as my grandmother taught me…”pretty is as pretty does.”
In Loris's trial, Tammy's sister testified that when she called Chad to discuss his new marriage after finding out that Lori had young kids... when he was asked if they would be raising children together, he said that they would be EMPTY NESTERS. This is right after their wedding and way before the kids's bodies were found. This would be powerful testimony, but would it be considered hearsay? How come Tammy's sister wasn't called to testify?
Trial is not over, yet
@@IAmALawyerToo We'll see if she's called...
If Lori had actually walked away at that point, we may not be here, and the kids and Tammy would still be here.
Lori wasn’t serious sadly, it was done to motivate Chad to hurry up in Tammy’s death given she had completed her’s against Charles. 👍
All this extra-biblical spiritual fabrication shows me, as a traditional Christian, how important it is to know what the Bible actually says about things.
I really appreciate your coverage of this...
You have to be off your rocker to fall for someone like chad daybell
Thank you Peter. Watching all your coverage of this case, from Liverpool, England 🇬🇧
On the replay. Thanks for pointing out things in these texts that I hadn’t considered.❤
The things people do to their own children is so sick.
Thankyou Peter, Your wise legal council makes understanding this heinous case easier. Watching from Australia.
Chad and Lori when insurance $ didn’t come through- Devastated! C and L when the kids bodies were found buried in C’s yard- Everything is ok because it’s in God’s hands! They’re DISGUSTING
Thank you for covering this!
The accusing people of being Light/dark" is reminiscent of The Salem Witch Trials.
Those religious nutbags got away with it
How shameful! I feel bad for this guy on the stand having to read these text messages to the court!
Are you FOR REAL??? Its rated R crap...you feel bad for a twisted murderer??? COME ONNNNN
@@TararyzeMcg NO! I feel bad for the person testifying who had to read these filthy text messages outloud for the public to hear. I couldn't care less about Chad Dumbell and his stupid face.
@@TararyzeMcg NO!! I feel bad for the person who is TESTIFYING and has to read Chad's sick messages outloud for everyone to hear... not Chad. Unless I missed something and the witness is some sort of twisted murderer too. I definitely do not come down on the side of Chad Dumbell and his stupid face!
Does anyone know for how long Chad was saying that his wife would not live long? Was it before he met Lori? Or maybe another woman caught his eye before Lori and instigated the “early death” theory.
Before he met Lori. I think he wanted Julie Rowe, a writer about LDS more popular than his writings.
@@kerrylewisRN ahhh. Thanks!
And remember- he was envious of/drawn to Julie Rowe bc of her near death experiences.
Watching listening to Peter I feel like I have been to law school.😊
Watching from Cape Town.. 6 mins away from 10 pm.
Lori (and probably Chad since he was listening) said that she suspected the call was being recorded. So everything said by her and Chad would have been filtered. I also think some of the jurors will remember that part of the conversation and will reach the same conclusion.
There were layers and categories to the depth and breadth of awareness each person had. But everything I see suggests that Chad and Lori were 100% aware of everything. They only pulled in the others as needed. I think some were mostly aware of what was going on (niece Melanie, because she wanted her ex dead; Alex, especially right before he died and worried that he was their patsy), some knew too much and were scared into silence (Audrey, Zulema), and at least a few who would have stopped or outed them sooner if they knew how depraved C&L are (Melanie Gibb, her boyfriend David Warwick, maybe that one cop who was part of their survivalist clique).
Im commenting again because Im so happy!! Coming home at the end of the day and seeing you did a video about this trial! Everyone tell him to keep reporting on it!
How do the jurors listen to these text messages without bursting out laughing
I couldn’t do it…
Lori has been married five times? The writing is on the wall.
Replay crew: There’s plenty of shade to throw at Mel G., she knows what happens to zombies and she might have been able to help those kids. Again, however: THEY WERE ALL FOUND ON THE DAYBELL PROPERTY. That’s Prior’s big problem. I submit no reasonable person will believe this frame up story.
His win will be LWOP that's what he is going for
great point, insurance here is a problem
Thanks Peter! I appreciate your knowledge on these cases. Really looking forward to the Karen Reed trial.
You should reach out to john dehlin of the mormon stories podcast, hes said john prior asked him to be an expert in the case, but he turned him down
I love john and his podcast
Yes! I watched him and Hidden true crime the other night on a panel. It was eye opening
I haven't been watching the trial, just watching your recaps, because I can't stand to listen to Prior for that long of a period of time, LOL. Chad's defense really seems like they're hurling the entire pot of spaghetti at the wall and praying that a single noodle sticks. Prior is all over the place, there was no plan,wait, there was a plan but Chad didn't know, wait, Melanie Gibb did it, and on and on. It's insanity!
You are spot on!!
We appreciate you also!!! This case is proving to be as wild as i tjought
Although there seems to be no questions about Alex’s death, it was awfully convenient since he started questioning Lori and Chad’s intention to use him as the fall guy.
He knew his goose was cooked
They both deserve to go to jail for life/death, but I think Lori's defense should have presented more evidence of Chad's manipulation of her religious obsession. He wanted her but didn't have anything to offer. He had to use religion to manipulate her because it was his only tool. He had done it before with other women. He's a loser and a predator.
I think Lori had everything or at least a lot to say about whether they would put blame on Chad.
She wouldn’t let defense do it. She was protecting Chad.
when there's children in your backyard hidden underground, there is no defense I can think of
Hello from the great bluegrass state of Kentucky. Love your channel❤️
Daybells attorney may not be able to win this, but….he is pretty good, gotta give him that!
Definitely doing his job
Much better than Lorie's Lawyers. The good of that is it leaves less room on apeal to claim they didn't receive an adequet defense.
Remember all he has to do is put enough doubt for at least life in prison . And not the dead penalty , and that’s a win for chad
@@chriseaton6203I think Lori didn’t allow them to defend herself..
He is doing great
Chad instigated ALL OF IT! And then Crazy Lori met Chad nd it was like pouring kerosene onto a forest fire!🔥
Great work! Thank you.
Murder and adultery. I feel like that’s generally not welcomed in most religions.
That is what I thought - what a crap husband - going about telling people that Tammy was going to die young. !! No compassion for his own wife, of her feelings.
Replay crew! Thanks LYK!
At 49:26 it really explains Joe Murray opinion regarding law enforcement. He seems to mirror Daybell opinion regarding law enforcement.
Replay crew here. I am beginning to wonder if Chad thought he could talk Tammy and Lori into practicing polygamy because the original LDS leaders did and he was trying to resurrect that doctrine.
That's a definite possibility of course. I think that Chad needed Tammy to die because he wanted her life insurance money. Nothing else would suffice. IMO
In my opinion he wasn’t half as smart as he thought he was, and the only ones falling for his phony baloney were weak willed women. Note how they all have those little girl subservient voices and attitudes. Not too hard to seduce someone who has been indoctrinated to be a literal slave to the men in her family. He met his match in Lori, only he hadn’t a clue how conniving a black widow she was. Both gave as good as they got and what they gave was murder to anyone who bucked their system, and got money in return.
I don’t believe Lori would be part of this given she is a “goddess”. She also doesn’t seem the type in to which to share… however he was able to convince Lori to end her children’s lives so what do I know 🤷♀️ It’s all totally WILD!
@@samantham4351 I think Lori would have done whatever Chad said, as long as she was the primary wife. I think. I could also be wrong. It just seems like most LDS offshoot groups end in polygamy.
@@melissafeagins264 You’re right they do. I don’t know if Chad had the confidence, swag and let’s face it energy to pull it off. He is a lazy man I can’t imagine he’d want to put the work in given he couldn’t even do so to get a job. He’s grand scheme was to get Lori, imo then when he did then layed by the pool in Hawaii. Just my observations of him over the past 4 years, not to mention they call him in jail “the slug” Lol. Your thoughts? Take care, Mel. 🌸
Just curious, my cousin lives in Phoenix and this is being covered by a local station, is there any chance Lori could be watching this in jail? At LEAST she must be hearing about her mighty profit (sic) hubby, throwing her under the bus?
Wondering how that could affect her upcoming trial for Charles losing his life.
She’s so self deluded she probably thinks she’s furthering her goddessness by accepting that she’s saving him.
😊 I wonder what she thinks too because surely she knows by now her dear hubby is throwing her under the bus, backing up and running over her again 😮
I think I have even heard Prior say that her and Alex murder Charles. It may not work for Chad because we already heard the funeral home call etc.
If I recall, I think Peter responded to a similar comment about this last week. He said that he doubted Lori is able to watch the trial. I agree with Peter. I would be surprised if she's allowed to watch it. That doesn't mean that others might not be reporting to or telling her things.
Nate Eaton on east Idaho news found out she’s in solitary. She does not know defense is throwing her under the bus. She doesn’t have a tablet even.
Excellent show LYK!
Great coverage
Also divorce would be costly and would substantially reduce their financial status. Lori would ran as fast as she could if she had to live in poverty. Those people were vile and the murders were all about $$$.
The Daybell lawyer rubs me the wrong way
He doesn’t Chad and that’s a good thing as Chad chose a prickly, rude lawyer which only bodes well, imo.
Same. It's disgusting that he body shamed Tammy. That REALLY rubbed me the wrong way.
You are the best Lawyer I know!!