LIVE! Real Lawyer Reacts: Chris Albert Takes The Stand Against Karen Read
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The thing is this… they did not investigate the house. A dead man on the lawn of a party and they don’t go over that house with a fine tooth comb??? REASONABLE DOUBT.
A police officer at that who has died and no search of house.
@@sunshinecheryll They assumed he stole the glass from the bar and not the house. Thing is they were correct he did steal that glass from the bar. And Karen stole a glass from the first bar. Bostons finest glass stealing lushes. :)
Joking aside yes they should have searched the house and not assumed. SLoppy police work for sure.
They didn’t a potential investigate murder scene….the inside of the house.
Ohhh but the Feds did last Summer
@@joann5075 and the basement floor was replaced, house sold for 50k UNDER asking price (in a sellers market) and family dog was given away!
Peter please never change it is very hard to find true unbiased channels!!!!
I Agree 💯%
So he says he didn't have John's number until recently, but he ALSO said he was watching over John's house when they were neighbors. If you're keeping an eye on someone's house, wouldn't you have their number? I mean, the point is that you would contact them if there was some kind of problem.
Nothing in this trial makes any sense 😅
And he texted the pic in his yard… so he had to have it
His wife had it. Agree makes no sense
Good point. It leads to the question, why is he trying to distance himself from John so much? If he's not guilty of anything, there would be no reason to not just say, "Yeah, John and I were good friends". He's either trying to cover his own ass or trying to cover for the person who did kill John.
The best part of today's testimony is when the defense nailed Julie Albert on cross! She rarely spoke to Courtney Proctor on the phone & BAM, he confronts her with 67 phone calls! She was so pissed!
YEP !!!!!
Her point was they text more than speak. She wasn't denying the closeness or the fact they are friends who communicate often.
@@dukedematteo1995yes she was. She then switched to “I don’t know exactly how many times we phoned”. Which , of course , was not expected to. She went from having very good recall to no recall to support her not remembering “exactly”.
@@dukedematteo1995Wrong. I heard the testimony. She WAS trying to deny
If there is a dead body in a yard the morning after a drinking party……..they ARE going to search the house in EVERY other case EVERY time!!! This is so obvious
If it would have been anyone else other than them the house would have!
But that doesn't mean Alberts did anything or Karen didn't run him over (just as example, course I don't think she did on purpose)
he was not dead at the time he was found on the lawn
@rose I think the EMTs/Paramedic told the police that he was not likely to make it. One of the investigators (possibly Gallagher) stated that he was told by a medic that Officer O’Keefe probably was not going to make it. They needed to warm him up before he could be announced as dead because hypothermia can mimic death and so they need to make sure by warming him up. 😢
@rose I think the EMTs/Paramedic told the police that he was not likely to make it. One of the investigators (possibly Gallagher) stated that he was told by a medic that Officer O’Keefe probably was not going to make it. They needed to warm him up before he could be announced as dead because hypothermia can mimic death and so they need to make sure by warming him up. 😢
Even crooked cop proctor thought it was a fight. He never even considered he had been hit by a car. There is a reason for that.
I’m guessing Mikey was protecting his buddies.
His eyes were bulging out of his sockets from being punched in the face
CPD Detective Lank also thought it could have been a fight and like Proctor, he’s part of that Canton townie mob.
A guy who you don’t even have a phone number for did not ask you to watch his house.
His wife Julie had his number.
And how did Chris Albert text John O’Keefe, it was stated that he did not have O’Keeffe’s personal phone number.
@@DonnaJo3452 they are in the unique position that he’s not here to say that it never happened. They just want to try to say they wouldn’t do anything because they were friends. I’m not buying a word of this mess.
There is no way OJO asked Chris Albert to watch his house. Chris's son Colin is an absolute punk. Chris Albert knows Officer O'Keefe can't speak to this, which makes him more disgusting.Think about the testimony from Michael Cammareno, Officer O'Keefe's actual friend .He speaks to how meticulous Officer O'Keefe was. Chris Albert is a disgrace and uses his family of cops to protect him, feed him information about this case .He also killed a foreign exchange student in a hit and run ,only served 6 months .Officer Lank physically fought two men helping Chris A. . Lank bit one of those brothers,spit in the others face while handcuffed, claims self defense but no chargers of assault on an officer ? The brothers sued the town of Canton and won. Sounds crazy but all factual.😢
I watch my neighbors’ house for them all the time & don’t have either of their #s 🤷🏻♀️
But it’s definitely the reason his son and John O’Keefe had issues. I do not think he was lured there to be killed. I think this guy’s son got in his face when he got there taunting and laughing at him and things escalated to the point of no return. Now there’s a dead cop and they decided to protect themselves and frame Karen.
You nailed it. It definitely started with the son… that’s why they showed the photo of them on the lawn. “Nebercracker” nickname has a lot more meaning to it.
I think you have a good perspective on what might have happened. Everyone was drinking that night. Things could’ve escalated quickly.
Agree
I also don’t think they thought he was coming
Lolz
Eyeroll
Could be
OK, if this is them covering up for one of the sons then this all makes more sense now. Just saying not accusing.
IMO resonable doubt is already proven by the defense. The horrible investigation, the cops that worked with John being able to investigate AT ALL and the house John was in front of being tied to the same cops is all just to much for me.
I think reasonable doubt has been proved by the prosecution
Me too!!!
@@barbaral743 Good point!
If these people aren’t guilty of something…..WHY do they try so hard to DOWNPLAY their relationships ……ALL OF THEM?!?!?!? Why is the lead investigator stay in charge of investigating his FRIENDS?!?? If this was a hit and run incident……where is his other shoe?!?!? How does a vehicle scratch and bite a man’s arm?!?! This whole situation STINKS of corruption!!!!!
Exactly! The worst so far was the women firefighter. She isn't a part of the family/friends but she was so defensive and had a big attitude.
I really do believe that if Karen Reid did hit O’Keefe, it was a total accident. I think she has been way way overcharged. Furthermore, it is my opinion that the jewelry is going to look at how inept this police department was in, reserving the scene, and collecting evidence That they will see this as reasonable doubt. I believe that most of us, could actually do a better job than these Keystone cops did. Being an attitude, and just plain ridiculousness, it all is alarming. If I were on the jury, and had to vote at this stage of the game, I would definitely vote for an quiddle. I would vote for an acquittal at this point just because of the way this police department handled the investigation. I would see that as reasonable doubt.
I think Uncle Brian & O'Keefe got in a fight over Chris' kid, the dog got involved, then while he's putting his shoes on to leave they heave him out the door in the snow where he passes out and dies.
@@sandygrogg1203 I agree 💯
@@leannabedore Right! And given the position she's taken, exactly how much effort did she or her cohorts put into providing medical assistance to John O'Keefe while he was still clinging to life? Did they intentionally let him slip away?
I have never seen a judge be so blatantly biased during a trial! 😱🙊 She is favoring the Commonwealth hardcore. Aside from recusing herself from this case, is there any legal remedy for a biased judge? 🤔
Whoa! I did not realize she was arrested two days later! That seems like a very quick rush to judgment. I’ve seen cases where it was obvious the husband mutilated and murdered his wife and it took months to arrest them. That alone is a little sus in my book.
Yeah, it took them months to arrest that girl in New Mexico who threw her newborn in the hospital wastebin and she was literally red handed! The only reason they arrested the other lady who threw her baby in the dumpster is when they tracked her down she admitted to it and they already had most of the evidence.
Of course it was two days later. They had to get rid of her an order for them to make a case. Are you kidding me? They didn’t even go inside the house. Follow SA McDonough. According to him, not only was the house sold, the family dog of seven years was rehomed OUT OF STATE
conveniently… But prior to the house being sold, they dug up the basement slab. I can’t wait to hear from Higgins. Higgins who went into work, allegedly still drunk after a long night of drinking went into the police station, allegedly did check to see if a report had come in from present at the house
Exactly! That's what made me so suspicious.
When they arrested her the police said in a press conference they had ring door video. To this day that video has not been produced.
The investigator was in a hurry to see nudes. I can not believe there isn’t millions of women protesting that. A girl gets charged and subjected to that. It’s gross
I live in MA. Sadly, i must say that I know of one instance when the police literally set up an innocent person and charged this one with a crime. It was so traumatizing, and luckily the Judge dropped the charges, but the point I want to make is that the do it for sport. It is terrifying. And, obviously THEY are terrifying to some of us. It’s like they are on a big power kick.
Mass resident too
It must be rampant
“MASK”achusetts!!
This is complete corruption and a cover-up and I am so sorry to hear that this has happened before. It is terrifying to think how many times this has happened and thank goodness the world is watching because we can all see before our eyes what is going on. Karen will be found not guilty but the true culprits the Alberts and the McCabes need to be indicted. Also, the whole Canton PD and Massachusetts state PD needs a complete overhaul this is terrifying
Chris Albert testified that he knew his wife was starting her night at CF McCarthys, but I’m almost positive Julie Albert stated that their plan was to start at waterfall, and that’s where they went. Julie Albert wasn’t at CF McCarthys? Chris sure doesn’t remember a lot of things that the defense asks him about that night, but him and his wife recite what John Okeefe was wearing, verbatim starting with “a hat, blue jeans, and a top with a hood”. Weird how he remembers such minute details. They were coached, that’s obvious. And it’s also annoying that judge cannone has ended the day, or stopped for lunch ONLY during cross by the defense, and today ended 28 min early (on a already half day) just as Yanetti was grilling Julie Albert about her communication with. Courtney Proctor. That’s just weird, it’s like the judge isn’t even trying to hide her bias.
I don't think they were coached but I do think they tried to get their stories straight together. Nice catch on the clothes, they also both said "12:10" (oddly specific) and that time is far too early. Defense is trying to show that their son was at Brian Albert's around 12:30 when KR said she dropped Officer O'Keefe off.
@@danatowne5498 well I can almost guarantee that they had conversations with proctor about what would be asked, or if they’re real cocky, talked with Lally himself, and he helped them “refresh” their memory, they definitely saw those videos from the bar before getting onto the stand. No doubt it my mind.
The judge has stopped precisely when she said she would. Whether it was 1:00 for lunch or 3:30 at the end of the day, she was almost clock watching and calling it on the dot. You pair that with her frustration with the numbering on the evidence items and forcing the prosecution and defense to renumber all the evidence, I believe the judge is high OCD rather than biased.
The reason that the defense, Yannetti, hammer down so much on the times was because they significantly off… According to the video at the bar.
most people don't remember a lot when they have been drinking
I think the glass was thrown out after the fact to remove any evidence that he was ever inside the home.
That's exactly what I'm thinking.
Agree
Absolutely
If so, they were being overly careful since no one ever searched inside the home.
They forgot a hat and shoe. And possibly gave him someone's puffy jacket.
Pay attention to the timing with this crooked judge - because every single time the defense starts to gain momentum it’s side bar time, break time, that’s all for today time. And when it’s something helpful to the defense like a photo of Karen’s tail light busted at 8am - she makes sure to get it published just before dismissal - so they can start the following day with it back up on the screen. It’s ok - we aren’t dumb. She’s a disgrace to the court.
She is CROOKED to the bone. Its 💯 obvious
She must be friends with Judge Eileen Cannon down in my area Fort Pierce, Florida doing everything she can to keep the classified documents from going to trial
Pay attention to her coughing as well. When the prosecution doesn’t object as quickly as she wants them to, she coughs. She’s slimy and the most biased judge I have ever witnessed.
@@jackiek412 ya there is clearly a bias. Unfortunately I did realize something that is really going to hurt the defense- Karen’s car has a safety feature called PKSB that immediately stops it from making contact when backing up… unless the driver manually turns it off after starting the engine each time. And since it’s clear her car made contact with John’s at 5am - that means she manually turned it off as she backed out. In other words she hit his car intentionally. 😢
@shaunnal2560 it doesn't stop the car from making contact when backing up, it just automatically applies the breaks when it senses there might be a collision. Not a perfect system and is designed to lessen damage and in some cases prevent collisions, it just depends on how fast you're going or a variety of other factors. Also, you're supposed to turn the system off to take your car through a car wash, so she could have disabled the system a while ago and then forgot to turn it back on. It's definitely going to be an interesting point in trial and I'm interested in how they're going to argue it, but the existence of the PKSB on her car on its own doesn't prove that she his car intentionally
I’m less curious about them straddling the fence and more curious about the beer cans in the bushes and Collin flipping him off.
bingo! You have hit on the reason for the cover-up. I don’t know if it was Colin that beat him up probably so. But everybody decided to put John out in the cold. In my opinion they are all guilty of murder. Plus didn’t y’all see the blue puffer coat that Brian Albert was wearing at the restaurant at the end of the night? That was what the EMTs were talking about not wanting to cut off John because the stuffing would get everywhere!
Typical white privileged males and their bullying tactics and wasn’t one of these guys at one time dating Karen Reed was it Higgins yeah there’s something definitely going on here. Could’ve even been trashing Karen taunting John and it got out of hand and a fight started and before anybody could break it up, I think they punched him and he fell down the steps and then they staged the scene.
Them straddling the fence with the texts to come out is taunting
The entire city of Canton should be in a Rehab Center
Except for the lovely Greek couple who clearly have too much to lose to throw in with this bunch
Something is very off with this case
Yes, an investigation that was sloppy. Full of small town brotherhood.
Red solo cups to collect evidence gave me reasonable doubt. You are 100% correct. Sloppy is an understatement. Not guilty. Hope the juror get this right.
@@karoleegregerson7600 yeah and “Stop & Shop” paper bags‼️
@@karoleegregerson7600They got the solo cups from the deputy sheriff (yet another townie) who lived across the street from the Alberts at the time. Tell me why that’s not suspicious!
So they would get supplies from the neighbors but didn’t want to knock on the door of the house the officer was found on.. it’s a circus
Appeal coming if she is found guilty. Judge should have recused herself and the awful investigation. All the lies on the stand. Wow
Unless the prosecution has totally irrefutable evidence that no one in the public has seen, she is undoubtedly going to be found not guilty. The thing is John O'Keefe is never going to get the justice he deserves, because of the atrocious investigation.
I missed why the judge should recuse herself? Can you tell me? Too many trials closing this week
@@SarinaSazi Her brother is one of the Albert's lawyers
In my opinion Chris Albert lied about his connections with the people investigating this crime. He tried to down play how close the relationships were.
Also, he tried his best to play up his relationship with John O'Keefe and how friendly they were. They were certainly not friends like Chris Albert tried to portray.
They are playing to the Jury (People that claim they know zero about these people) not the TV you tube audience that knows the truth.
We can see the lies but the Jury can't (Unless they cheat and peak) What you see might not be what the jury sees and we can't convict they can.
I agree
@@L.Piper214 Yes! Very disingenuous
@@L.Piper214 I disagree, I think Chris and John were probably friends who give each other grief, it's a blue collar Boston suburb.
I find it so disrespectful that people choose to attack you on YOUR channel when you are ironically been unbiased. It is bewildering . The Nevercracker story - reminded me of Goodfellas - when Joe Pesci joked and joked about the waiter and ragged him over and over and the waiter finally had enough , talked back to Joe Pesci and Pesci shot him.
I live ~15 away from Canton and have been following this ordeal for well over a year. I've already made my mind up as have many people. But not everyone can think unemotionally. I'm actually impressed by how Peter is able to remain unbiased this far into the case. Definitely a testament to his skills as an attorney.
The funny thing about bias is that if a person indeed has a bias one way, they view anything more towards the centre as a bias to the other side.
Totally
I think it is funny that Chris Albert thinks John OKeefe thought the lawn issue was funny - but John put up a fence. I'd say John did not think it was so funny
Hi Robin! I agree!
💯
True if JO'K didn't mind people going on his lawn or throwing stuff on his lawn why put up a fence? I don't think he thought it was a joking matter. Does KR know how he felt about it all? But that would be hearsay unless they texted each other about it. I wonder why JO'K agreed to attend the party there? Had he ever partied with the Alberts at any of their homes before?
Agree. And it’s not funny.
Totally agree. Fences are $$$
Things are only a joke if both parties think it's funny. He did end up putting up a fence....so I think it did bother him and either he downplayed it to them at the time or they are conveniently downplaying it now.
If I were a juror, I would be highly suspicious of just how dumb some of the witnesses have acted. I feel like the defense lawyer could ask them if they knew their own child and they would say something like, "I did birth that person but that's all I know."
😂 best comment. They all are.distancing from each other and it is so noticeable.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I don’t recall
Some of them act like their sh^t don't stink. They get VERY defensive at times. If not Reasonable Doubt a Hung Jury for sure. If she loses, I will fly to Massachusetts and hold my own sign!!
😂
Lmao! I did birth that PERSON! 😂😂
I bartended for years and any bar I’ve ever been to or worked at never let us fill up the same glass with another beverage of alcohol
I wonder if it's against OSHA.
@@Somegirl811osha is occupational safety - don’t think health protocol comes into it
@@aairsick they also inspect bars and restaurants to ensure health and safety such as sanitation. So, if they ran a buffet or something, and a restaurant was telling people to refill their dirty plate instead of getting a new one every time, someone could report them to OSHA. I'm just not sure if it is the same for glassware at bars.
No, but I don’t think these bars in canton followed many rules
@@Somegirl811where I live it would be covered under a separate thing called Food Safe. It basically covers safe practices for handling food and drinks in commercial settings. It may be covered under the Serving It Right certificate too (basically a certificate to show you know how to serve alcohol responsibly, but I think it has more to do with identifying minors and when to cut someone off). I'm not sure if MA has it all separated like we do, but it would be due to some kind of regulation in place.
I went into this having no idea how they would prove it WASN’T Karen Read, and now…I have every bit of confidence that she DIDN’T do it. The behavior of the Alberts on stand so far has been shocking. I truly believe one of the Albert’s sons did something they shouldn’t have, and Brian Albert and Proctor have tried to cover it up. The way Chris reacted when his son was brought up, and how Julie said she and the woman related to Proctor “rarely talked on the phone”….when they did….67 times.
B i n g o !
67 times in 7 months.
That’s where auntie Bev came from. They stay at her cape cod beach house. They call her auntie Bev.
And notice how Chris Albert’s wife keeps looking over at the prosecutor waiting/praying for an objection so she doesn’t have to answer.
Absolutely!! Lying on the stand!!
Noticed that.
I know my son got home at 12:09 2 years ago but can’t recall anything about my 67 phone calls.
Chris Albert said when his son got home he stuck his head in the door to say goodnight, but when his wife was asked the same question she said her son came in the bedroom and said good night and gave her a kiss saying he looked fine, no bruises.
Yep and how would she know unless the light was turned on which would be a weird thing to do late at night when Chris was supposedly sleeping
🎉THIS🎉
There are pictures online of their son after that day with his knuckles bruised...
@@penelopeoliveira3812 yep!!
I don’t believe a word
I haven’t liked this judge overall, but the allowing witness to chew gum just made my jaw hit the floor. What is happening…
Agreed, I hated that it's so disrespectful imo
this isnt school-you cant tell witnesses not to chew gum for goodness sake - it is the least of her concerns
The judge is shady. Her brother, an attorney, defended Chris Albert
That shocked me too!
@@cjsays19728there’s decorum that should be respected but many things that she’s allowed have shocked me..
She is lying. She is definitely lying. What else would she talking about on that day when her own son was at the house the night it happened? They all prepared themselves, they are not telling the whole truth, and the defense caught both of them, multiple times
I find it very telling that every time Proctor's name is brought up there is an immediate objection or side bar. Like no one is allowed to say his name..
EXACTLY!! It's like he's Voldemort
Exactly cause that is what’s happening
im sure defence will call him , then the shiz is really ging to hit the fan
NOT saying it’s THE MOTIVE for the murder of John O’Keefe, but we’re talking about a KID, who probably has a hot head, thinks he’s entitled, because of his family and their connections, and obviously disliked O’Keefe. it’s brought up the possibility that this could’ve started as something small and trivial, turned into something a little bit bigger. Maybe there was an accident. Maybe some fists flew, because people were drinking. Nothing good ever comes from drinking too much, & maybe the dog got aggressive, and maybe something very simple took a terribly bad turn. It’s all a VERY BIG maybe, but it definitely plants that seed. It’s an absolute possibility. Absolute possibility creates reasonable doubt. I can see this story and the nicknames etc etc, happening in real life, so, I can also see it starting out as an innocent few words exchanged, that turns bad, and quickly.
But FRAMING AN INNOCENT PERSON IS DIOBOLICALLY HUGE!!!!
The entitled hothead you're talking about, is it one of the two guys that were bantering in the bar??
But then to FRAME someone for murder is beyond repulsive! They'll get their due.😁
Yes I think it could be a few things that could have happened..are the jury supposed to guess what happened cause there isn't much proof of anything other than it snowed karen dropped John off.. and it seems everyone is just trying to cover their own backs oh and the police are useless 😅
@@astrialindah2773 No.. Colin Albert Chris and Julie's son, an entitled punk who harassed John O'Keefe relentlessly...
Here’s what I learned from today, Collin wasn’t a suspect or even a thought in this trial, until his parents made it. The dad made the unsolicited comments that Collin was at the house, even though none of the police reports note it. The dad made an unsolicited comment about Collin coming home at a specific time (even though video evidence shows it as untrue), as if to create an alibi. His mom made an unsolicited comment about there not being any bruising or evidence of a fight on Collin. It all makes me think they doth protest too much.
Colin’s attorney was on another channel stating he was Colin’s attorney during fbi grand jury
Dang that alone I believe could create reasonable doubt
they may seem unsolicited but they know full well its going to come into play later , they are trying to get ahead of it while they have a chance
I don’t think it was anyone’s intent to kill John. But some sort of altercation took place and as a result-he was gravely injured. Maybe he lost his balance and hit his head after someone pushed him. But it’s how his death was handled is what’s suspect. That’s how a fellow officer’s death was treated by other officers?
Exactly
@TattedTara Things aren't adding up for the prosecution's theory of the case but things don't add up for the Alberts conspiracy theory either. If it was an accidental death in the house why would you dump the body on your own lawn?
What about his arm?!?!!!!!
@@Journey188 hopefully we'll know more with the medical examiner's testimony but from the injuries as described by the paramedics I don't see a car accident unless he was inside a vehicle. Now it's definitely possible something happened in the house but again why would you only move the body to your own front lawn?
Could be
A lot of these witnesses seem very hesitant and angry. In a very snoody and condescending manner
He is the definition of a hostile witness
The Alberts and McCanns are hiding stuff for sure. Their behavior and inability to answer directly and succinctly is very sus.
He's a selectman, appearing in court, and doesn't wear a suit jacket? Jeez, no respect.
geez, and fix that damn eyebrow!
Wants to downplay his status as selectman I believe, hence Lally not mentioning it in his direct with Chris either.
Karen Read would’ve driven by the Canton Public Library after dropping off John O’Keefe at Brian Albert’s house. The Library has security cameras affixed outside the building. Strangest thing, tho…the Library’s footage on 1/29/22, from exactly 12:37am-12:39am, is somehow missing. Why? Oh, I dunno…maybe it’s because the footage would show that Karen Read’s tail light was not broken. It would prove she never hit John O’Keefe with her car. And who would have access to that footage? Canton Selectman, Chris Albert.
Brian Albert was in the Marines and as far as I'm concerned, he's a rare qualifier of the title "Ex-Marine". We don't claim him.
Shame on you
The lawn thing is important in my opinion. Based on the fact the witness so staunchly denied an obvious fact, and the extreme shift in his behavior testifying did hit for me. Also, JO then put up a fence after these events occurred. And his explanation was so lightning fast with such extreme detail that it made it seem even less credible. I just think that this line of questioning was highlighting the antagonistic relationship between the Alberts and John O’Keefe- which the defense mentioned in their opening. I believe they are just starting to plant the seeds of that antagonist relationship. The excessive details and his ability to recount every detail from who called who, etc., the fact JO put up a fence afterwards, and the change in the way he answered questions (basically answering before the question was even finished) was all suspicious to me.
Except that when Chris texted John about the lawn in a joking way and told him to get to the bar, John went to bar. If they weren't friends, why would John accept the invitation? Perhaps John had an antagonist relationship with other members of the Albert family, but he sure didn't seem to dislike Chris and Julie Albert. Chris Albert's explanation of the get off my lawn joke, and the origin of the joke made sense to me, mainly because I understand their quirky sense of humor. I'm not on any side at all, still not sure if Karen did it. The so called "road rash" looks more like dog bites and scratches to me, so I have questions. The prosecution definitely hasn't proven anything to me. I'm still waiting to hear all the evidence from both sides before I make up my mind. Remember, 2 things can be true: Chris and Julie could have really loved John, but they might also be covering for their son who hurt John in a fit of rage that night. Or it could also be true that Karen did do it, probably by accident, and the defense is taking advantage of a really crappy investigation to create a very compelling defense for their client. Like I said, for now I'm keeping an open mind because neither side has really proven anything yet.
If the defense is right, likely someone drunk said something to another drunk dude who snapped back they started pushing the dog attacks, john hits the dog and they beat his ass then panicked. That or she hit him lol. But the dog bites & getting rid of the dog is difficult to get past.
God, someone else finally gets it. YES. YES. YES. A fight happened, the dog got involved, they thought they could throw him out and he would get up and go home... but they beat him to death.
Plus the "hos long to die in cold" I really dunno how they explain that coz I could be wrong on this part but as far as I know there were 3 searches with 3 different spellings and at 3 different times 2 of which were around the 6:30 mark and then there's the infamous 2:27 search
woohoo!!!!
@debsp4 yes! One at 2:27 am, one at 6:23 am, and the last at 6:24am
Exactly, it had something to do with that dog
I love how calculated the defense team is. I hope I never have to take the stand and hear someone on the opposing council ask me “are you standing by your testimony in front of this jury”?
The reasonable doubt is insane in this case! I can’t wait until the plow truck driver testifies!
I keep thinking the more and more prosecution goes the more doubt I have and we haven't even gotten into the defense case.
If John asked Chris Albert to watch his house while he was in Aruba, wouldn’t they have exchanged phone numbers then? In the beginning of January? Not January 28th. He’s not being truthful!🤔
Agreed. I bet he never asked them to do that. Defense should have asked the wife.
I think they’re lying through their clenched teeth.
Good point
Great point!!
Also, ever notice how when liars retell a conversation, the dialogue is so awkward? Always reminds me of the scene in the movie, There’s Something About Mary, when Matt Dillion’s character Pat Healy has the scripted conversation Mary overhears.
It's sunny in Naples... Excellent point!
To me, The lawn joke started as a joke, but may have been overplayed over time and became a sore spot. Kind of like, just let it go already. I feel a fight started in that house, it went too far, he was placed on the lawn, knowing a blizzard was happening and the snow plow would be coming through. They were thinking he’d be roughed up by the snow plow, or at the least, covered in lots of snow by the plow. We shall see what happens. Still waiting for some real evidence to come in. Can’t believe no one came out if their house independently when seeing emergency vehicles in front of your house. Most people would want to know what’s happening on their property and to offer assistance. Love your content Peter. Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge.
I think they deliberately left one shoe off since it’s common for a pedestrian to lose their shoes when hit by a car.
She sustains EVERY objection from the state. It’s ridiculous
She is a very very dirty judge.
Bc the questions are stupid and leading.
@@dukedematteo1995 Hmm Not all of them are. Some yes, like compound questions about the family.
Judge appears to be coaching and hand holding the prosecution at times "Are you sure you don't want to object?"
She doesn’t even wait to hear the objections
She coughs, and the state immediately objects and has been for three days……
How can you say the judge is anything but running 2nd chair for the State? Listen for her coughs - "cough- object- sustain" every time.
She cuts the defense off constantly. It’s gross
Is she the one coughing? The timing …
The judge's brother was Chris Albert lawyer when he got 6 months for a hit and run and killed a 22 year old man 😑
. YUP
14:34 to 14:36 I heard a cough an objection and a sustained
A bunch of townies trying to railroad the outsider. Why is that lady chewing gum on the stand? This is the biggest witch-hunt in Massachusetts since the Salem Witch Trials
Ummm…she’s clearly MA trash. Everyone sounds like 3rd grade was the best 3 years of their lives. I made a joke a week ago that there was no way this trial was going down without Dunkin Donuts (Dunks) or a “tall regula” mention and…
History repeats itself when we don't learn. 😒
Involving many of the same families, even!
She seemed like she was on speed or super nervous!
@@taze8230to be fair, it was sped up
I'm curious how the locals will feel about their Police department after watching the trial.
@Adallace that’s a whole different Dateline special😂. A few months ago the citizens of Canton voted to have their town audited because of all of the issues. All the Alberts and McCabes voted against the audit but it passed. Hopefully the audit will expose the inadequacies and lack of procedures within the police department.
Watch the town meeting
They think the Albert’s made a laughing stock out of canton and their property values are declining
I didn't understand the dislike for LE in Canton until I read about the Sandra Birchmore case..
I started thinking this is another case where the parents are protecting their kid.
Yes! If the blue line protects their own "except John O'Keefe ", Iof course they would kill for their kids.
oh damn! I thought I was the only one that thought Colin beat up John! I think it was a group decision to put John outside in the snow. They are all guilty of murder. Colin, definitely his parents, definitely Brian Albert, and really everybody that was there, especially since no one protesting putting him out there. They are all guilty, they could’ve stopped it they could’ve saved John O’Keefe‘s life.
I think this is about the kiss between Higgins and Read. I think John found out that night. I also think that’s why Karen didn’t want to go inside.
@@2TurntKarenKaren and Higgins kissed?? That is new info to me and does explain a lot. Wow.
@@user-my5xp2vi6g yes - it was in Yanettis motion for 3rd party culprit. The judge asked him specifically what motive existed and he made reference to Colin’s “beer cans in shrubs” conflict and Karen’s “closed mouth” kiss with Higgins.
Ugh. My kids went to all private catholic schools. In st. Louis city mo. Elementary and hs. I despised these type of catty, drinking, nosey over involved parent group's. It always kind of infuriated me that these types always let the kids drink (n drive in hs) Im also wife of a 43 year, now retired fire chief. I can relate to soo much of this...social bullcrap. !
I do not believe the police officers explanation of the fight he got in.
I don’t know what that explanation is, but my opinion is: Albert was involved in the fight. and I think it’s because the old walking across John O’Keefe’s property and John told him not to. I think that’s the reason for the fight. A man’s life because he doesn’t want juveniles walking across his yard, making paths by taking shortcuts, messing up the snow,.
Can't wait till you hear about the text from Julie to Proctor thanking him and going to buy him a gift after rhis is over
What?! I missed that! 😮
@@elycezynski- It’s coming down the pipeline! This trial is about to seriously pick up next week.
What..... is this like common knowledge ( I live Ireland so Irish small town keystone cops but no federal law enforcement- thank God) but Chris's wife texted proctor telling him she'll get him a gift - an oak barrelled triple distilled Jameson Irish whisky- but where can I find these jewels
Yep! This came out during pretrial hearing.
@@kristiedeloreto4622 omg!!
Other shoe had dog bite marks, so they got rid of it.
Shoe and hat are missing?! I mean, what did Karen grab those two things and hide them somewhere but after she hit him with the car? It’s just so sad that they did not investigate it properly and figure out what actually happened to this poor man.
That's interesting
This judge seem bought and paid for.
She is connected to the family
Phone calls instead of text so they can’t be pulled
@jlynn468 EXACTLY! "We mainly text." Translation: U can check my texts and you'll find nothing . . . (we know better than to leave a trail of texts!)
I do not think the lawn thing was a joke. Not sure if you noticed but Mr. O’Keefe put up a fence around his yard. A statement was made like Mr.O’Keefe put up more fencing later on the front of his house, during Mrs. Albert's testimony . Plus you do not name a "friend" Nevercracker the first time it happened and stick with it.
I agree. I think it was bullying.
Peter, you have taught me, admittedly, an old lady, to be more cognizant of both sides of anything. Thank you so much for being such a great teacher. I think yours is the best attorney out there.
Judge abruptly calls it quits a half hour early just as Yannetti is gaining momentum. Obvious bias! Makes you wonder if someone got to her.
She said they were stopping at 12:30 today. I’m actually glad Yanetti gets back to an Albert tomorrow to reiterate their “forgetfulness”
It wasn't 1/2 hour early.
@@smallsLT22 She announced they'd stop at noon, yesterday. And they're off, tomorrow.
Nah she’s been doing that since the beginning. It’s annoying, but I think it helps the defense in this situation. Yannetti gets to reiterate and re-ask some of those major points and questions tomorrow to really hammer them home. So while I find the judge annoying and I don’t like her style, nor do I understand or agree with a lot [most] of her rulings, I believe this is will work in the defenses’ favor.
@@EC-dz3fbnot off tomorrow
I am looking at this as a juror! I kinda remember hearing this about a woman who hit and killed her boyfriend but nothing else. I've been really surprised by all this. I am really enjoying this case and learning as I go. I only watch with EBD. I thought it was weird Chris was trying to deny the nickname and distance himself from it. Now Chris seemed to take his time answering the questions but when it came to questions about his son the answers came quick! Now Julie the wife was my boom moment. Your best friend is calling and not texting early in the morning and you don't call or text to see whats wrong? Then you get to Brian's house and see the cars and your friends call there and Brian asks you to come and your like nah I am good I don't need to come in! She doesn't ask what's wrong. At this point I am thinking maybe the son started egg John on he ask something to the son Uncle takes offense. Than you got all the calls and the timing of them. Both parents have a different story about the son coming home and Chris waking up in the morning.
Yes they seem very defensive of the son..
Is it normal for a judge to micro-manage counsel like this? She’s like a mean nanny.
She's friends with the McCabe and Albert families - rents her summer home to them.
@@mamacita8688😮😮
That’s what I want to know… how can the judge block the mom from saying her child was a ring bearer. Like why can’t she be asked that? Why does the judge get to pick who can get asked that?
No judge should be doing what she is doing. I have never ever heard of a judge deciding what an objection is from either the state or defense when either objects. Like they don’t get to say “objection hearsay” they only get to say “objection”! It’s like she doesn’t want the jury to hear what the objection is for. 🤷♀️. Plus she isn’t allowing evidence that directly ties the Alberts and Proctors together it’s insane. Karen is not getting a fair trial because of the judge and the state! I hope the Feds go after all of them!
Not normal. She's extremely biased.. she should never been on this case.
Look at the witness facial reactions to those questions regarding that lawn photos. Looks like they hit a nerve
Absolutely 💯 his answers became short, his eyebrows raised, and pursing of the lips were just a few signs I noticed....I noticed when Yanetti was digging more in to John's issues with Colin, Chris' ear lobes became more and more red. He's got a horrible poker face 🥴
How does a judge end it right in the middle of questioning smh
She's obligated to not keep jurors beyond the designated time.
@@EC-dz3fb I disagree! To stop right in the middle of cross examination and especially during a contentious cross is bologna!! Totally bullshit in my opinion
@@EC-dz3fbshe stopped almost 30 min before scheduled end time! And every time she’s stopped, to end or lunch or recess, it’s been when the defense is in the middle of cross examination.
😔😪
@@EC-dz3fb She always stops at 1pm, today it was 12: 30…🙄
There is something about how Yanetti speaks and carries himself that makes him seem very credible especially when the prosecutor doesn't seem to want to be involved in this case and shows a limited vocabulary by overusing certain phrases like what if any.
That lady has lived pretty hard and it shows… Her attitude shows too.
I don't think she has lived hard at all. Look at the size of the homes on that street, they are huge. John OKeefe's home is valued at 1.2 million and since they live just down the street I'm sure their home is of similar size and value. I do, however, think she drinks a lot and probably always has. That alone will make you look rough.
@@Floridafanatic28 yeah that’s kinda what I meant. Not sure sure if u took it to mean “she’s had a rough life”. More that she looks like a hard drinker and there’s nothing that can hide that look. Highlighted hair, nice clothes, and a low bmi do nothing for most heavy drinkers/smokers lol
She looks like she’s aged 20 years
@Floridafanatic28 Home worth doesn’t mean anything if you purchased it years ago, because they could have purchase it for way less.
@@RationalNon-conformist facts. My parents built their home themselves (my dad was a skilled carpenter when that used to be a thing). It cost them about $30k in the early ‘80s.
In 2018 I think they sold the home and property for well over $250k. Insane I know. But it was on 6 acres with a shop he built later and a stocked pond. So yeah. A big house/property doesn’t mean much if it was bought in the distant past… where people could afford a home.
Karen Reed has MS if she has MS she’s on a drug for treatment that makes alcohol unadvisable. The fact that she was drinking from the same glass all night a clear liquid really makes me think that she had water and was just trying to not bring down the vibe. I say this as someone with MS whose mother has advanced MS.
I hadn't read your comment but just commented the same thing. It completely throws out the theory that she ran him over because she was drunk.
I've carried around a glass of water or seltzer with lime in it ( looks like a gin & tonic) when I don't want to drink or want to pace myself.
Does anyone know what her blood alcohol level was ?
Both defense and CW wanted to delay trial. Judge said no. Also in one of the pre-trial hearings, there was an email or report where judge was referred to as Auntie Bev by an Albert.
@@ivelearnedalot8354 not from what weve seen so far! To be clear I’m not trying to definitively deny she could have been intoxicated, but from what’s been provided as testimony and evidence so far, and from my perspective as a person living with MS and watching my mom live with the advanced form, the glass just seems a lot less plausible as a large alcoholic beverage (even cut) that was refilled through out the night.
Alcohol tolerance on medications like orchavist (sic) tends to look magnified, which I recognize might seem like a mark in favor of her being more intoxicated, but for me it pushes me in the other direction. She wasn’t having any jerking movements, stumbling or similar that I noticed during the clips we’ve seen so far, and I just don’t see how someone with a smaller body weight like she has, on any maintenance medication for MS, could present as that put together, even if they were a severe alcoholic.
Wait until tomorrow!!!! All the phone information for Julie came from the fed toughy reports! I think it shocked her.
I can't believe people aren't making a bigger deal omg busted with 67 phone calls!! That's a lot for only texting each other 😮 he was smart too he had her answer it twice NO MISUNDERSTANDING 😮
I don’t know a lot about this trial. What I can say with certainty is that there was very poor police investigation work done and I am frustrated because I still dont understand why we are in court. Neither side has proven their case to me yet, but I can’t help but feel like these witnesses are being evasive. I also do not care for this judge.
What is most troubling is all the main LEO involved have been friends since school days. Townies backing townies where Officer O’Keefe & Karen were “outsiders.”
I agree. Also, Go Blue 〽️🟦
@@greenthumbnail1831 Im alumni so forever Go Blue 💛💙
@@Qbert2407 that is “convenient” isn’t it….so strange.
Random question but have you ever heard of Coach Lloyd Carr for the Wolverines or am I thinking of the wrong team? (Pats territory here!)
Am I wrong that the Judge protected Julie shortly after "readers gate" 😂? The Judge appeared to say, "no no! Don't...."
I know nothing of this case but what I watch here. It is all confusing for me and I know something is not connecting. I am waiting for the "ooohhhhh!" but it is not happening. Anyway, this Judge worries me frankly.
you came at the exact right time! The reason for the cover up is being unveiled partially today and probably tomorrow too.
Interesting fact as to this Judge, and the first witness Peter highlighted here Chris Albert - Judge Bev's brother defended Chris Albert in a hit and run that resulted in the death of a college student, several years ago. There's absolutely history there - oh, and Chris was drunk but bc He didn't turn himself in until the next day they were unable to prove it. He served less than a year...😏 this judge's brother was Chris' defense attorney...
Who is ok with people being on their property especially if he previously told this family not to be on the property. I also find it very juvenile and mean for Chris and his wife to send pictures of them farting around his lawn to piss John off. Personally, would not find this amusing friend or not!!! There may be more to this, but since everyone is sooo cliquey, the truth may not come to light unless someone who is not part of the group provides testimony to establish resentment from John of the Alberts being disrespectful of his property.
Trying to antagonize John when he can’t do anything
And he’s still smirking about it even after what happened.
Karen didn’t do it
Already a ton of reasonable doubt!
I'm really enjoying your analysis of this case. It's nice to get the perspective from someone with no personal or geographic ties to it. Keep up the great work!
This judge is so off to me it's grounds for an appeal.
TOTALLY!!! ⚖️
The defense made a motion for her to recluse herself (because of her connections and bias) and she refused
Exactly why would she not recuse herself
Peter, Chris Albert didn’t have John’s phone number until January 28th. I didn’t think this from the beginning but now I think John was lured to the house. Also cause Jen McCabe went to Karen, put her arm around her and said, you are coming with me. If Karen went with Jen it would ensure that John also went, even though that part didn’t work.
@@sevenitta-_-I know he testified to not having his # until that night, but later it’s mentioned that he and his wife watched John O’Keefe’s house for him, took a picture of themselves on Mr. O’Keefe’s lawn (as a joke supposedly) and sent it to Mr. O’Keefe. So he had to have had his number before that night!
I don’t think the Albert’s intentionally killed him, I think a fight happened, dog got involved and they threw him out. Maybe they didn’t realize he had just went out and passed out in the front yard and thought he went home. The biggest red flag to me is the officer never came outside to see what was going on with all the commotion in his front yard. Every cop I’ve ever met would be out there asking questions if they truly didn’t know what was going on. I mean I’m a civilian and if there were dozens of cops in my yard and ambulances and all the rest I’d be out there asking what the hell is going on. It just boggles my mind that not one of them went out to see what the commotion was about
Exactly IT PROVES ITS A COVER UP!!!!
They possibly thought he went home? Not even close. You're forgetting that the blow & laceration to the back of his head was a fatal injury (as the medical examiner stated) and that the doctors later estimated he had lost approx 3 liters of blood. Since there was hardly any blood at the scene outside, that massive amount of blood was inside the house and they surely knew he was inconscious and he was near dead before they even brought him outside.
right, and Brian AlbertI immediately came out side to his son’s car whenever his aunt was delivering the damn donuts! He’ll come out to see to check on donuts but he won’t check on a dead or dying man!
A cop made the statement on the stand, that when the light on the house came on, then they knew the inhabitants were up and only then they sent in a “friendly face”.
How was he EVER expected to get home when KR dropped him off there??
NOBODY in the vicinity came out of their house despite police cars & an ambulance there..
Betting that BA was passed out drunk..
A lot of the Albert’s answers on cross wouldn’t seem odd if they didn’t act weird, get defensive and answer evasively. Super bizarre and gives the impression that there’s something they’re trying to hide.
The witnesses are extremely defensive and angry
I mean their son is the defenses prime suspect. Of course they would be defensive either way.
Because they are used to getting away with everything & anything
Thats the majority of Massachusetts 😂
To be fair, Turtle Boy sees them in public and accuses them loudly of covering up a murder. That would make me feel pretty defensive, too. Just saying. He just posted another video doing the same thing to Caitlyn Albert's boyfriend a few days ago. It gets him views and makes him money to paint the Albert's as sus. Things were done incorrectly in this investigation, but I'm still not seeing evidence in the court of law to show a massive coverup. I'll believe it only if the defense case proves it to me, not because a guy on RUclips making barrels full of $ tells me to. Clearly that's the angle they're planning to take, so we'll see if they can prove a conspiracy. One thing I will say, the marks on John's arm don't look like road rash. I want to hear how the prosecutor explains those.
@@francesca6301I don’t think the defense plans to “prove” their third party culprit theory. I think they’ll prove there is enough reasonable doubt that Karen didn’t do it and a third party may have.
Chris Albert also had a hit and run accident where he killed a man , he didn’t turn himself in for 2 days and his attorney was Judge Cannone father.
Oh my. Did not know that. Reasonable doubt. Fishy.
What's that mean in this case?
Omg why is this judge even on this case
@@rocsti5402proves the family is treated with kid gloves by the law!
Yikes. 😳
I’m mind blown by this judge, I started watching this trial with absolutely zero knowledge of this case…. This is one of the most ducked up trials Ive ever seen! Between her and the witnesses clearly lying I cannot stop shaking my head. Oh yeah, and the TERRIBLE Police work
Peter is the humble and most naturally sincere attorney ive ever met. The level of how your knowledge and wisdom combined with the humility is surreal. Just speaks volumes about your character. Im blessed to have the chance to have found this. Thank you kindly
The prosecution with the “sort of” is driving me crazy!
Peter 🤣 I’ve never been so entertained watching a trial. I can tell you absolutely love what you do. From the pickle, to the commentary, the tiny pelvis, and you loving the moment Yannetti gave the witness his readers…loved every minute! Thank you for sharing your knowledge and keeping us entertained! Hearing your commentary helps me so much to put things into perspective. I’m not watching this trial at all and get lost at times! Also, I’ve never seen a judge intervene so much while the defense is asking questions. She barely lets him get his questions out. She constantly interrupts and dismisses the question. She doesn’t even let him rephrase the question to try to obtain his answer 😢 is this normal?
I agree with you. Many of the judges rulings..like not allowing defense to ask Chris Albert if his wife is friends with someone because they can ask the wife . . .do not make sense.
This judge needs to be taken off the case!
Definitely!
@MelanieLewis-in1zd I agree she is definitely biased. I noticed it during the motions in limane but thought IS wait til the hearing but the ruling she makes are wrong. A judge doesn't get to decide what questions can be asked to a witness just that the question meets the legal standards.
They tried. There will be appellate issues if Karen is found guilty,for sure
She’s doing exactly what she should do. She runs a very tight courtroom. She’s on top of things.
1. Beverly Cannone has known the Albert family for over 30 years. Her brother or father represented Chris Albert when he was charged with DUI homicide back in the 90's.
2. Beverly Cannone and Jennifer/ Matt McCabe both own cape houses in Barnstable, MA. They know each other and reports are that Cannone rents out her cape house annually to the Albert family, likely so the Alberts and McCabes can enjoy time together in Barnstable.
3. A member of the McCabe family referrred to the judge as “Auntie Bev" in an online conversation with a local journalist.
4. The defense is well aware of all these conflicts and asked the judge early on in this case to recuse herself. She refused. (I'm not sure how there isn't someone above her to make that decision, that is mind blowing).
5. The judges typically rotate off cases every 6 months, but when it came time for Cannone to rotate off this case, she refused to do so.
So, to summarize, Beverly Cannone is friends with the true murderers in this case and she is doing all she can to protect them. She's one of the many reasons that people are paying such close attention to the vast corruption in this case. It extends to so many levels of law enforcement, it's almost beyond belief.😮
I think they bullied and teased him with some dislike/possible hate behind it. Things went too far 😔
I found it interesting too that John’s best friends were not cops.
@@cherylj7460 who are his best friends? I’m wondering where all his works friends are at. Like why aren’t they filling the court room. Maybe they know there are some strange things going on and they want no part of it. I just can’t even believe his crime scene was treated so sloppy. Who would do this to anyone let alone another cop. He seems like such a great guy and to just be treated like this is awful and heartbreaking.
@@NYLI11 Two of his good friends testified very early in the trial. One was a heavy equipment operator and the other is a union laborer.
Karen needs to SUE THESE DIRTY CONSPIRATORS‼️‼️‼️‼️
She's probably had enough of this whole Court nightmare to even consider more
I agree. She has had to spend a TON of money on her defence. She has MS and the stress has probably really made things hard for her. I’m sure if she is found not guilty she is gonna go after these fools. Especially once the feds get after them
How dumb are you people? She did it.
@@Ginger_H yes, killing your boyfriend has its consequences.
Lol there no conspiracy that for certain. But karen already confessed
Rewatch crew! Love your break downs. Chicken "tendies" cracked me up. Yep, you again keeping it real.
This defense lawyer??? Chef's kiss!
Why does JO ask Chris Albert which Albert’s are at the Waterfall bar before he goes? Was JO concerned about Kevin being there? 🧐
I Thought the same
I thought he asked what Brian was there. I think Higgins was smitten with Karen. I’m guessing that’s why Karen didn’t want to go there.
Hmmmmm??????
So far we know Karen has only been sipping on 1 clear drink with a lime … NOT the rumored 9 drinks
Yes. During pretrial motions the CW claimed they had both receipts and video for 7 or more vodka drinks for Karen.
I would think that would’ve come up when the bartender testified.
But we haven’t seen anything like that.
The freeze frame of the look the defense attorney gives to the jury when he hands her the glasses. 🤣🤣🤣
The Albert parents house was purchased from Jen McCabe’s family (the Weeks family)
Interesting! I figured there was something more to that sale, especially since they agreed to sell it under FMV.
@@TeeshaMarie92buying silence
@@TeeshaMarie92I don't think she is talking about 34 Fairview
Please clarify. Was 34 Fairview pitched from the Weeks by the Alberts prior to the children growing up there?
@@robinmaynard1640 “the Albert’s family house” is the one on 34 Fairview. They sold it after this happened and re-homed the family dog…
I appreciate that you emphasize the process of our judicial system. The outside noise is interesting, but irrelevant to the verdict.
Do you consider the fbi investigating canton pd and state police as outside noise?
Hopefully they’ll get the two Brian’s on the stand..
I'm with Peter on this one. No motive has been proven yet on either side. That said, sloppy, sloppy work, and very suspicious circumstances with all these cops.
The Defense hasn’t presented its case yet. When it does, it’ll establish motive.
Why are the Feds watching and waiting in the wings? There is more to this than people realize.
@THEDubbleHelixx there's definitely a world where neither Karen Reed nor the Alberts are responsible for John Okeef's death. I could easily see Brian Albert using his connections to change the addresses on the reports just because he doesn't want to tank the property value of the house he's trying to sell, especially if the retirement was planned.
@@fictionjunkie The different addresses on the reports were the least fishy (but still very sloppy) thing to me lol. But I agree; for all we know, John got a ride home, got into a fight in the car on the way there, then was dropped back off on the lawn where he was picked up. Or maybe someone else drunkenly hit him. At the end of the day, I think the only thing that's clear (to me) is that the police force was trying to protect the Alberts from being implicated.
@@THEDubbleHelixx see the part that doesn't make sense to me is if John dies in the basement from an accident or fighting and they move the body why would you dump it on your own front lawn?
@@fictionjunkie Good point! If there WAS a fight inside, maybe he got kicked out and lost consciousness in the snow..? That still opens up other questions, though.
Never thought about it but nobody seems to know what the clear liquid in her glass was. Nobody really brings their own glass of liquor to the bar. Maybe it wasnt alcohol at all. She has MS. Maybe to avoid having to drink at the bar. Not sure people knew she had MS. Everybody said she didn't appear intoxicated at all. Would throw out the theory that she was smashed and ran him over.
48:38 Peter I wish you could see videos of how the son Colin behaves. Drinking under age, acting like a complete punk ,hot head . Proctor lied on police reports and interviews saying Colin wasnt at Fairview, yet at the same time saying OJO never came in the house . There is a reason Officer O'Keefe wasnt friends with the McAlbet's. They are Canton entitled trash.
I do appreciate you reviewing and covering this case with unbiased prospective. Especially to keep my own mind in check .
I think they intended to teach OJO a lesson,scare him ,bully him and it went way too far ,they panicked and went into cover up mode ,instead of trying to save his life.😢
He’s a punk
How did he text him in Aruba if he didn’t have his number? He said he was house sitting for him.
Peter you would be a excellent Judge! You got people trying to pull you into a direction and you are staying totally unbiased and fair! That is the reason your channel grew so big❤ You really do need to be a judge!
Theory...... Colin Albert leaving the uncle's drunk ; hit John and ran away leaving John to die. Alberts covering for the kid and blaming Karen. God forbid an Albert did anything wrong that sends them to jail.
Nobody was hit by a car. Clearly the black eyes, gash on back of skull, dog scratches up his arm and defense bruises on his hands explains that
@@rb8910Colin didn't join the Navy. He went to Bridgewater State for a year or two and then dropped out when he couldn't take the heat from this case.
Dog bites make me positive no car was involved. I think likely a little fight until the dog got involved and then a tragic accident happened. I can’t wait until we get to the medical info.
@w.5141 Oh shoot right Chris is the oldest..... he joined the navy
This judges brother was the defence attorney for one of the Albert’s when he killed someone drinking and driving. If you want to know who did this, watch an interview with Sean McDonough. He’s an ex DEA agent who has a lot of behind the scenes info, that won’t be allowed in.