LIVE! Real Lawyer Reacts: Karen Read Trial Day 15: Jen McCabe Cross Examination Gets Heated!
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Who else literally laughed out loud when Jennifer McCabe said she was an honest person?
😂
I’d believe her over KR
Me Me Me 😂
@@user-ji5gz5fu3g have you actually watched the trial?
@@user-ji5gz5fu3gno way!!!!!!!!!! You can not be serious?! 😂😂😂😂
I am shocked by this lady’s testimony. Big low for the CW today. Just my opinion though. No disrespect to you.
Every day I have a new theory on who killed John O'Keefe. Thus far, none of them have included Karen Read.
Me too, slipped fell on the glass maybe.
Where's the shoe? Why black eyes? Scratches? @@user-wg1bu2ct9r
Good point. Maybe he slipped on the snow and/or ice and then he was hit?
I don't think the M.E. report will lean towards slip and fall accident, but at this point it's leagues more believable than whatever the prosecution's theory is. That alone should be a not guilty verdict.
@@kikikipreos9987 There was only a thin layer of snow when Karen and John arrived. His body and his warm blood would have melted through the snow and into the grass below. The leaf blower video shows that there was a lot more snow than a dusting when John ended up there.
Jen: Kerry went on and on (in the interview) as she does.
Alan Jackson: and you listened to her interview on and on as you do. I died.
😂😂😂
That was amazing lol
He has the quickest come backs. Impressive.
Golden!
He’s so funny 😂
Jennifer McCabe is not only unprofessional, but absolutely hostile. And she looks really scary when she gets angry.
She’s pissy because he talks down to people I would’ve done the same
He’s rude AF
Just ask the questions
@@toniserevino5969because she's a moron that can't answer a simple yes or no question!
Yes! Her face gets very scary looking when she gets excited! I think she has anger issues!
@@toniserevino5969
The lawyer is behaving like a highly paid thug on behalf of the defendant. It’s immoral and makes a laughing stock of any decent legal system.
@@kjnest
I think the lawyer has anger issues and he is a bully.
She doesn’t recall, but corrects him. She overhears, but doesn’t hear anything. She talked with, but didn’t interview with. What a day.
I was so annoyed I even gave up towards the end she can't answer what she is being asked
And butt dialled alot 😂😂
@debsp4 the amount of butt dials in this case blows my mind And bear butt dials During sex apparently as well For Brian and his wife Nicole On the Night in question
She’s telling the truth. No one’s memory is perfect but she knew the important things that happened.
@@sasantipeshe couldn’t answer his twisting questions? I wouldn’t either. He was badgering and trying to trick her.
butt dialing on an iPhone is improbable. multiple butt dials by MULTIPLE people is downright laughable
I often accidentally dial people on my iPhone before it goes dark after I’ve called someone else. I’ll shove it in my purse with my contacts open and accidentally call, BUT you’ve got to hang up or you leave an extraordinarily long voicemail of the inside of your purse! You can’t just keep accidentally calling someone seven times in a 20 minute time. Your phone will eventually go dark. If there was one call to John with a muffled voices voicemail of 15 minutes, I would buy the story.
Yeah, 7 buttdials with zero voicemails or one short voicemails is unlikely.
I’ve had an iPhone for years, and the only time I’ve accidentally called someone was when I went to info to get their number for someone and accidentally hit the phone tab. I’ve never had anything like a butt dial.
Another obvious lie that can’t possibly be true
When a phone is locked, you can not butt dial
The fact that she supposedly “butt dialed” the same person 6 times , she’s such a liar
The creepy witness accused him of spinning and he said: "Ma'am I do a lot of things, I don't spin, there's a judge here to make sure that I don't spin". Today was better than any movie I can think of. She is so lucky to have found such a great defense team...
Yeah that was a “you need me on that wall” moment.
That was my favorite line! I replayed it a few times 😂 only a narcissist like JM thinks she can outsmart a seasoned and renowned lawyer like AJ. The way these defense lawyers have paired up their crosses to complement the witnesses has been brilliant lawyering also.
As a 31-year trial attorney, I have never seen anything like this. Why would a judge subject county jurors to a 7 week trial and tie up her docket for other litigants needing justice when a federal investigation is underway currently … these witnesses are clearly hiding something and her use of “small circle” and then going to the responding officer’s house the next day, monitors police interviews, sent texts stupidly … got rid of house, dogs, cell phone, job, texts, voicemails and lead investigator violated her 4th Am rights by searching for nudes and then bragged to buddies IN TEXTS about it? Blood in Beer Pong Cups next to the SUV and then blood’s on the SUV? No tail light pieces at scene until next day? It’s OJ’s “I was framed” defense but with ACTUAL evidence …
Because she’s a family friend “Aunt Bev” one of the Alberts kid Godmother. I think she believed this case could be quickly resolved, Karen would be found guilty and it would then be off her docket.
For what it's worth, I think that they thought Karen would take a plea deal & this would never get to court.
They severely underestimated her.
@My2Stents it’s got to be longer than 7 weeks at the rate we’re going plus all of these half days. Thanks for your perspective for all of us non-lawyers.
Crazy how Jen says she wanted to keep details of events in her “small circle”, especially since her kids read her texts…yet she’s letting her kids overhear the same conversation she’s able to relay details about to her Albert-McCabe group chat as they all eat dinner. There are so many weird little nonsensical details like that in her testimony.
Going to responding officers house and waits outside for an hour 🙄
You were around for OJ and this is the craziest thing you’ve seen? Plus, you’ve bought the defenses story hook line and sinker and are repeating the same half truths that the defense has been putting out there for over a year.
@@basicallyno1722yeah the CW still has like 40 witnesses left.
This is the 2nd most inefficient trial behind the Georgia RICO case against Young Thug
RIP John O'Keefe!
Somehow the lost get lost in the fog sadly. Frankly, I believe it's not worth it. Just let rest in peace prevail. I always remember "revenge is mine...". Way better justice than can be delivered here.
She is disrespectful. She's a bully. My question is this: why are so many lies and deleted texts/calls and unanswered calls coming from that camp if Karen hit him with the car?
“My children look on my phone” really? The “children” are grown adults, Jenn….
How does a man appear dead on your lawn.. you’re a police officer and you DO NOT COME OUT OF YOUR HOUSE 😳?????
Exactly
They wanted to distance themselves as much as possible
Why does being a police officer matter? Why would he even be looking for something he doesn’t know is there. Your too biased.
@@Anna-ww4pv it matters tremendously! He’s a first responder, I don’t know many cops that would not come out outside wen a dead man is found on his lawn
I’ve said that everyday,, especially a COP..
This witness was awful!!! I don’t care what anyone says, she looked suspicious, like she was hiding things!! It was horrible!!! This sealed the deal for me that something suspicious is going on
The way she so desperately wants to be in control of the conversation/situation drove me crazy too. I’m baffled at how she thought this attitude was a good idea.
Maybe if you had half truths put out there for over a year by this attorney about you and your family you might begin to understand why someone would be combative.
@@Steve-qn8gnyes but I don't understand the deleted calls and the oh I forgot that I went this place and I didn't remember that she said this until after I testify to the grand jury there's a bunch of weird stuff going on here dude
explain in more detail?
And how she testified to the grand jury completely different details than she did to today’s jury. Car in different places, didn’t make calls but her celebrite data says she did, she has 22 erased calls she says she didn’t erase… and that’s only the tip of the iceberg berg……
I absolutely would have let her go through 220 pages. Not there is it Jen? Liar.
She is a snarky liar. It’s so obvious she is hiding a lot.
The venom toward Karen Reed is palatable
And uncalled for. It says a lot, and not good for the Commonwealth
Catty and jealous women.
Yeah let’s say a friend of mine accidentally ran over her bf while drunk and I had to testify. A) that would be extremely sad and difficult for me but B) I would tell the truth while maintaining my positive feelings towards the character of that person. This is a friend of mine, someone I value and believe to be a good person (otherwise wouldn’t be a friend). I would be like “this is the biggest mistake my friend ever made or something like that but I wouldn’t get up on the stand and completely trash talk someone I consider a friend even if they made a mistake as bad as that.
@@heftyhefty_Exactly!!
100%
Brian Albert testified that he and his wife sleep with their phones and their eyeglasses IN THE BED just in case one of their kids call them. And Jen expects us to believe that 3 calls to them in the early morning went unanswered?? I’m calling BS!!
Very good point! That would have been a good point to bring up. "You keep the phone in your bed so you won't miss important calls, and yet you missed more than one that morning... "
Also would it not get lost in the bed ? I have slept with my phone and glasses in bed by accident and my phone was trapped in the blankets when I woke up - if not for my other alarm I would hav ne’er work up on time
There is a lot of “butt dialing”going on that day for sure. Don’t forget BA also said that he butt dialed Higgins while he was “engaged in a sexual manner” with his wife
Her phone could have accidentally been on silent. Y'all are making a big deal about small stuff. What motive would Jennifer have to lie on Karen Read
@@sierramcclary2897 O M G 😳🤦♀️
My good friend, a cop. 9-11 call: some guy is on the ground. Group text say “that guy” wasn’t in the house. Language tells what we need to know. They talk about John like he is not their friend on all the correspondence and recorded calls.
A sign of disassociatuon . And a vague word to use when you want to hide something
The guy never came in the house what terrible people and I see no sadness from them about his death. Only person freaking out about John dying was Karen I’m convinced Karen is INNOCENT
I’ll never understand why witnesses don’t just answer the questions. The snarky attitude never makes a witness look good.
I don't think this woman can help it. 😂
Another Amber Heard?
Court reporter here who’s sat through so many of these trials. I usually hate snarky attorneys with witnesses. Usually a turn-off. Jackson was terrific. This woman came across as a liar who was scheming behind the scenes. Requesting to see her prior statements to answer questions was actually a great tactic. If she was telling the truth, why does she need to see them? Her answers should be mostly consistent. And the woe-is-me, it was traumatic for her, did not help her. Adding her little narratives rather than answering yes or no made her look evasive with an axe to grind.
Because it was over 2 years ago….hello
@@user-ji5gz5fu3gyou'd remember stuff this important id think 🤔
@@user-ji5gz5fu3gYes, she had 2 years to go over her testimony and the evidence 😂
I thought Jen McCabe was very credible and Jackson came across as a bully who kept trying to twist the truth
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This was a nightmare day for the prosecution. Jen McCabe came across so badly. I still don’t understand why Karen Read is being charged for anything. Everything I’ve seen and heard from these court proceedings - it seems like Karen is the ONLY one who cared about John and what happened to him!
I think that’s the truth of that night. None of these people truly knew JOK like that. This wasn’t their group of friends. They lured him in. Karen was the only one who truly knew him and she loved him. She threw her body on top of him to warm him up as soon as she got to him ffs. That’s love. The only one to do cpr, the only one flipping out. All Karen read.
The world is watching the judge and she knows
She called him 7 times in 19 minutes and deleted them. So her story of the 7 butt dails means she called and then hung up 14 total times accidentally.
The whole point of the 7 "butt dails" was she was frantically calling John's phone to find out it and delete things or figure out exactly what she was going to do with the phone. This is where Alan Jackson is going with that. She called him 7 times after he was already dead because she was trying to find his phone and that's why she deleted those calls to hide the fact you were looking for his phone
She keeps digging her own grave: "I didn't listen to her because I was eating dinner" but at the same time "She was talking nonsense and I was horrified by what she said, she was oversharing". It is not a crime to say that you wanted to hear about something that affected your life, family, and friends. There are other suspicious circumstances, but because she is so hostile and stubborn regarding simple statements it seems like she wants to set a certain narrative which makes it even worse. Today the defense made me believe that Jen had access to certain information and that her intentions were not to find out who killed the person, but rather to create a certain story.
Lally said early on in the trial “ There is no proof these people know each other” … meaning the investigators and witnesses…. The people in the court laughed!… now we know they do!…
I think something happened over the weekend that changed everything because this Judge has completely changed her tune. She let the defense get more in than she has in the past 2 months. I was stunned.
I was thinking the same. At first she really shut everything down, but she has lightened up a lot. Maybe she's changing her tune.
Me too!
I wonder if she got reprimanded, maybe someone complained lol
Yea they monitor social media and starting see that the majority of the world thinks she's innocent and knows theirs a nepotism type blue pig cover up and now she's trying to distance herself, she don't wanna go down in that fucking ship trust me
Karen has a great defense team! I love to listen to Attorney Jackson, he pulls NO punches and so far has left no stone unturned. Yet, he’s still likable.
Jen came across as entitled, condescending, and very suspicious as she overcompensated for her differences or possible “untruths” in her varying testimonies by extreme combativeness!! The “coverup is always WORSE than the crime” and it’s CLEAR that the Alberts & McCabes colluded to get their stories straight and that their testimonies were REHEARSED!! The FACT that their LE buddies NEVER RECORDED their interviews, and never REQUIRED them to SIGN witness statements OR SIGN their LE reports documenting what they supposedly SAID in their interviews, is UNBELIEVABLE!!
And clearly had some deep seeded hatred towards Karen read. Hmmm. Possiblity was in love with John O'Keefe. Who tf focuses on her Hysteria and didn't even check on her dying friend? She's diabolical. And now throwing Kerry Roberts under the bus.
And the lawyer came across as a highly paid thug with anger issues and the manners of a pig.
I agree. I've mostly been listening to this without looking and when I happen to look at screen I see how much she looks at the jury and it's so similar to Amber Heard! Not as much as AH but it's the same way she does it.
The mcabes and alberts have tried their hardest to cover this up. No ring camera footage, no 911 call, deleted texts/calls, destroyed cellphones. It feels like the prosecution is on trial, not the defense.
Accurate.
& where is Higgins & his phone? Bring it Big Bri
Not only destroyed cell phones, but rehoming the beloved dog they had for years, and rehoming their multi-decade long home!
@@LoveKatherineElleand tore up the basement floor and sold the house for $50k under asking
@@nicolewhite1288he’s coming up later this week! I can’t wait!
His injuries look like he was beat up.
It’s a BLIZZARD! She looked out the window 6 times and not once check the lawn to see how much snow has accumulated?
HMMMMM. Storm last night. I went to the door numerous times to look outside and never measured the rainfall.
Exactly, and how couldn’t she hear a car revving at 24mph? Because it didn’t happen.
@Anna-ww4pv rain doesn't tend to accumulate in a visually obvious way unless you have bad drainage. And then yeah I totally track the progress of puddles
She was looking for John which would include scanning the area for him surely? This is what I can’t get past.
I’d have expected one text to say “ I just saw you why aren’t you coming inside ?”
Her saying I wasn’t asked is laughable because she clearly adds extra information to things asked lol. She isn’t someone who just answers the question asked CLEARLY lol
I would love to hear them corner her with that. Like get her to discuss how chatty of a person she is- and then hit her with that. Lol
This is SUCH a good point, I would love to hear Jackson ask her this!!!
JEN JEN JEN. No one believes you.
😅😂
Jennnnn! Jennnnnn! Jennnn!
Butt dial?…….My butt! 😂
😂
I find her to be very credible, admirable and inspiring
I actually like the aggressive cross testimony style when warranted against sketchy individuals. Liars should be called out of their BS and the harsh style makes it way more impactful
Jackson did great today as the witness was snarky and asking HIM questions. This witness was something else!
No hyperbole here: I've never seen so many sketchy, snarky witnesses for the state: reminds me of mob defense witnesses stopping short of pleading the 5th.
Feeling very grateful for my own friends and family right now.
I'm not saying that a well-organized conspiracy occurred. Tbh, I've no idea what happened and do believe there's a chance that KR hit him with her car, but the commonwealth has not come close to establishing proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
They may even be getting further away from it.
I can’t wait for defense to start their case.
Drooling
I feel like it will be a lot more cohesive than the Commonwealth’s case thus far.
@@sngray11 yes the CW just seems to be trying to disprove the cover up instead of proving what they think Karen did
I’d say it’s well underway 🤣🤣
Same cause today was 🔥🔥🔥
In spite of her superior acting skills, she’s less believable than AH.
Wow! Now that’s brutal lol 😅😂
That's hard. Yikes!
I kept thinking that when I was watching her, she’s another AH !
So rehearsed and the added cantankerous attitude speaks volumes
There is NO WAY she is acting. I can see the pain and frustration in her face. Defense is unnecessarily brutal, and if I were on the jury, I would be very wary of the defense lawyers and recognize the trickery because it is so obvious.
She is so very defensive! All of the commonwealth witnesses have been but Jen McCabe is the worst! She has such a snotty attitude toward the lawyer! Why is she so pissed at him?
She's pissed because he's challenging her and she's losing. If she had nothing to hide, then she would have been way cooler on the stand.
She seems like the kind of person who is used to getting her way all the time. She probably believes she’s above everyone else. Gives off president of her kids PTA vibes to me 😂
Are u kidding me if u we’re being spoken to like that u would be the same
@@user-dc2kn1oq3i hmm...she is getting caught in many lies!!
No Notes?!
No Recorded interviews
No photos
No tissue samples
Sounds like the way they interviewed Hillary Clinton?
I’m from a third world country where they make you write your own report but damn. This investigation was shoddy.
"I was shocked by the things Karen was saying that I could not hear..."
😂 good point
😂😂😂😂😂
Did she say she was shocked by what she could hear Kerry saying?
@@TRUECRIMESPTVyes
Lol...good one!
I really think she walked in to the court today believing she would best Jackson and the jury would absolutely believe her. The way she fights everything or stares at the jury was a horrible idea. Jackson has so much more patience than me lol
Her ego is so big that she doesn't realize that agreeing with simple things (even if negative for her) would make her much more believable in her other testimony. But she's so adamant to be "right" in a nit picky way, her entire testimony gets discredited.
Jackson is an ass
I can't believe that this townie mom really thinks she can best a brilliant trial attorney such as Alan Jackson. She is mentally ill.
I don’t think the jury would like how he badgered her relentlessly and tried to bully her. She is frustrated and angry at what this case has done to her family. Who wouldn’t?
@@barbaramay1866 I disagree. The jury won’t like how she acted and I doubt they’ll give her testimony much weight.
I heard the judge say “overruled” for the first time today. 😂
There's no way in my mind this family is innocent especially after this testimony
This whole case is a waste of time and money. No one is going to get convicted. They are all going to go free. This Jenn McCabe is so frustrating to watch.
The McCabe's should be arrested
I agree with you. The real loser in this is the family of John okeefe. They won’t even get justice for their family member who by all accounts was a standup kind of guy. Having said that, Occams Razor
There may not be a conviction for murder among the McAlberts, but there is still a chance the FBI could charge some of the law enforcement officers involved for civil rights violations. And if convicted it wouldn't be a probation case. Those cops would do time.
I think that Karen Read is going to be convicted. The defense theory about the crime being a cover up is ridiculous.
Shouldn't they make nationwide laws for law enforcement based on this case so that they can never botch an investigation again?
Because when they reveal all the connects how the Albert's are friends somehow with so many people in law enforcement isn't that a conflict of interest? They don't have protocols in place to protect against this?
the McAlberts’ butts go insane around phones
😂😂😂
😅😂😂
LOL
6 'butt dials', because they were trying to find John's phone after he was bashed senseless.
More and more the evidence supports this theory
She has major attitude. Doesn't look good for a witness who supposedly lost a loved friend. 😕
Jackson is dissecting Jennifer 's lies one by one! Go get the red solo cup!!
You mean evidence collection container. Lol
@@CharlieLynne-eu9dzdon’t forget the stop and shop bag!!
She said she was a chatty person, yet made Kerry being chatty as a slur
I also felt that vibe when she talked about her friend. What is it Kerry? When she made that excuse that she is telling them everything because she goes on and on and on and never stops but then when they ask her that question in regards to herself she said it's normal for her to not be looking outside the car looking around for a body because she's chatty.....and other stories where she makes excuses for herself she uses "chatty" excuse. She makes a lot of contradicting statements if the jury had all her statements side by side.
Yes, she came across as being a back stabbing mean girl.
Sounds like she is trying to throw Kerry under the bus....can't wait for tomorrow!
Right! Shows what a 🐍 she is.
Narcissism
Do you think the judge was more lenient because she saw or heard what social media was saying about her over the weekend.
Great point.
She doesn’t seem to care otherwise she would have told Jen to respect her court room. At some point AJ said “ May I approach? And Jen McCabe said “YES”
@@francescawilliams8177 omg I missed that!
She is literally giving a running commentary to Brian, Nicole & Matt through a group text during Kerry’s interview with LE….” She’s telling them everything “ !
She claims to not be listening as she was eating dinner & getting the girls ready for basketball yet she has time to send these texts. They were very worried about what “ Non Family Member” Kerry would tell Detective Proctor !
She also said “ We were working with police trying to figure out what happened “
Then why on earth would she delete all those phone calls between her & John ? Calls made at the EXACT time of the alleged incident?! That’s not “ Trying to figure out what happened “ that’s an attempt to hide evidence.
Let's go with conspiracy for a sec, what was EVERYTHING? J maintained k was telling all the dirty laundry of John and kr.
This is drama I don’t understand how this ended in trial against Karen . There is no evidence Karen did anything wrong …
@@yawninggreyhound I’ve always thought this was simply a drunken fight that got out of hand. They never intended to kill him & when they realized the6 went to far Brian Albert & Higgins just tossed him on the corner in hopes that LE would think he was struck by a car or plow. Once Karen showed up, which they never intended on, she just became a convenient patsy.
Her looking at the jury is SO annoying lol
Yup someone should tell her it did not work for Amber either.
Amber 2.0
@@sasantipe and Jodi Arias 2.0
Amber vibes!
She's looking to see if the jury believes her lies. Remember the truth doesn't change, yet her story keeps changing. What does that tell you.
"you'd be suuuuuper helpful about that." Omg the way I screamed.
I could not be on this jury. My facial expressions. My pearl clutching. My "aint this some shit," statements under my breath. Id have been kicked out on day one. 😭
😂😂😂
I love your "ain't this some shit" I should use it 😂
@@starsalways7922😂 I also like to say,* "ain't that 'bout a bitch?"
@@starsalways7922 that would be a dead ringer she’s not from Canton and therefore kicked off jury 😂🤣
@@starsalways7922 I’m from Alabama and “ain’t that some shit” is definitely associated with southern phrases in my head. I assume people in Massachusetts don’t phrase it like that lol
The biggest thing that bothered me was her and her husband said the same exact thing. They kept looking out the window or door. What did they do? Take turn? So rediculous.
It was an accident… there’s no way, that many people could keep a “story” straight. The defense attorney is a Bulldog . Case closed.
Right? And just why is everyone so sure Karen’s innocent …
@@toniserevino5969have you watched the whole trial so far? 😂😂😂
They aren't keeping a story straight! That's the point. They're stories are all over the place. If they were being truthful, there wouldn't be so many discrepancies.
@@Alison1973 yea I have oh I’m sorry you must be in the Karen fan club
Look at the corpse
Jen definitely has a bone to pick with Karen 🙄
i think she liked John
@@scroogemcduckrich9705totally! I believe she was in love with him. Her husband even said that Jen and John were like mother and father to the kids. I don’t think John returned her feelings so nothing physically came of it but when John brought home Karen, his old flame, who also happened to have brown hair brown eyes and MS, she took it as him replacing her and took it as a slap in the face. These feelings had to intensify and rot in a secret corner of jen’s heart because obviously she is married. But jen seems like she can hold a grudge and digs revenge and, in my opinion, saw the tragic death of John as her opportunity to punish Karen simply because she was jealous of Karen in every way.
Jen is the adult version of a mean girl.
She’s in love with Karen 😂
@@lifeonmakeup6458holy crap. That’s definitely a theory. I haven’t seen much of this case, but last week the way Jen was mocking and making Karen look completely irrational and crazy when finding her dying/dead partner absolutely disgusted me. She has to be harboring something really vile inside of her to treat Karen like that.
@@Tazazakunless she really thinks Karen is guilty idk what her deal is
I would LOVE to hear The Behavior Panel cover Jennifer McCabe 's testimony. I thought she was close to assaulting the prosecutor, she seemed so enraged... 👀😐
Love BP
And how she testified to the grand jury completely different details than she did to today’s jury. Car in different places, didn’t make calls but her celebrite data says she did, she has 22 erased calls she says she didn’t erase… and that’s only the tip of the iceberg berg……
Why did I not see any enragement..? I think she was upset at the trickery. She stayed with it well.
I really hope they do a take on several of these witnesses. Jens big tell is if she is stating it at the jury she is being deceptive. IMO
I think one, or all, may have been retained for trial or jury consulting on this case hence why they've haven't covered it.
Jen’s cross examination proved the defenses’s theory
It’s also very strange that none of these SO called friends went to the hospital or to the funeral
They did not go to the funeral? Is this for real
Imagine thinking you're smarter then the lawyers
Cause she is…they are bumbling trickeries trying anything to get their guilty client off.
Sarah Boone does.
@@wendygorman1027 😂😂😂
I haven't kept up with that one yet. Unfortunately a lot of people think this
Mr. Brooks would like to be excluded too.
Maybe the 6 calls to John were them looking for his phone to make sure it wasn’t left in the house
Yessss indeed!
Ohhhh good point!
Exactly
My thoughts
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She keeps saying that she didn't give certain information to grand jury because she wasn't asked specific questions about particular topics. Yet throughout her whole testimony, she constantly offers information not asked about (to the point that it is problematic). Seems like a contradiction.
She was calling JOK phone trying to locate it!
My gosh, this woman is a real peach.
Lmao my dad used to say that and it still cracks me up. Says so much more than just ‘peach’
“Impeach”
@@yukihiromol2091lol nice one 😅
Imagine being married to her! 😂
@essy311. Maybe, but her memory is too fuzzy
She called her friend. "The body" 😮
That tracks with “The Guy”. 😐
“Someone she loves” right?
Sad! 😞
😔 I hope his parents aren't in court.
@@mariee.5912yes they are! Of course they are.
Peter, don't apologize for the videos being long. I listen to them while I'm working and you get me through my workday. The longer the better! 😄
She’s not a reliable witness. How is she going to say she didn’t offer up information to the cops about Karen’s statements YET she’s adding to her answers on the stand
So sad they are worried about the harassment and not the family!
Exactly. Because they are selfish and care about themselves. That was a manipulative move on her part to garner sympathy.
Being harassed the way they were must be quite scary. However, this is not the place or the opportunity for them to present themselves as the victims. There is a dead man and a family that lost a valuable and loved member.
Big-time lawyers are going to protect their reputation. They would not say so boldly that Karen Read was framed unless they had strong evidence.
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Her lawyers are fantastic.
Absolutely. They wouldn’t risk their reputations saying such without having the receipts. Even if KR did accidentally do this, the Pros and all these cagey witnesses being evasive, poor investigation is giving reasonable doubt.
Exactly, they don't care if they're getting paid millions to defend her.
The defense IMO has won every single day of this trial so far. I usually mentally score them- like one wins one loses each day. Lol and the commonwealth has yet to win. They had one ok day.
She seems to offer their harassment narrative without being asked so why couldn’t she mention the Jeep or anything else without being asked?
We’re trying to figure out how someone died here lady, why are you behaving like this if you’re trying to help and have nothing to hide??
Well.. Cops should have figured it out prior to this trial but, I agree!
Agreed
The most important thing about her looking out every 3 minutes for 15mins until the SUV left, is that she would have HAD TO see the SUV hit John at some point and she did not.
Exactly! She didn’t hear anything!! Who wouldn’t hear a car revving in reverse at 24mph? What a liar!
I don’t know which is worse. Being married to her or being married to her husband. They are both pieces of work! 😅
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They are really disgusting 🤮
Ok you don’t like witnesses standing up for themselves. Who’s on trial here. He’s the one defending the currently accused and charged person of a criminal offence. Witnesses are not and conspiracy theories are not evidence!
@@user-ji5gz5fu3gmost of the witnesses so far are criminals. How many of them drove drunk, rode with a drunk driver, and/or let someone drink on top of allowing underage drinking. They're not stand up people. If they were stand up people, their stories wouldn't have major inconsistencies, data wouldn't have been deleted, phones wouldn't have been destroyed, and the defense wouldn't have anything to use against them.
Her husband was very likable until the "the guy" text message.
Alan Jackson is effing AWESOME!!!!!
Common language between the witnesses:
- Butt dials
- “Absolutely not!”
- “I wish he would have.”
- 12:10am
- they all told the ‘Bread in the back seat of the car’ story identically
- The “crazy diet” the older generation of men were on
- “Can I see the report?”
“Can you rephrase that”
And the reports are wrong
So true when you see them laid out like you've done. I'm also thinking "10 and 2", "clear liquid", "everyone was just having a good time".
Haven't even asked her about her 2:30AM google searches and deletions yet. I also want to know why why she didn't immediately run and alert/get her brother in-law instead of waiting until other first responders arrived. And why did she refer to her "friend" as "a man is passed out in the snow" during the 911 call. Everything about this lady is super sketchy.
They’re probably saving it for last 😅
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The testimony from today has me convinced something sneaky is going on. I was truly on the fence every day of testimony from everyone leading up to today. Today has sealed the deal for me. Something happened and there is a coverup happening. I don't know exactly what happened, but the testimony from today is insane. Also, I love this DL! He is amazing. I'm taking notes.
She's lying, she's lying, she's lying
My husband butt dialed me sometimes and I’ll just sit there and listen to make sure he’s really at work lol
My friend's husband butt dialled her from overseas and she overheard him negotiating with a sex worker! 🤮 Omg .... Horrifying.
This is completely shady. She is totally lying!!!!
Why do you think she is lying and drunk Karen is truthful?
Proof? Evidence of her lying?
@@megmeyer7563where’s the evidence she was drunk? Haven’t seen any so far.
@@enigma_-_79her testimony not lining up with police reports for one. She can’t answer any questions without finding the answer in documents first.
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It’s been over two years, I’m not surprised she doesn’t remember everything.
After seeing how she’s being treated by the lawyers and the backlash from the online rabble, I would never be a witness to a crime. Wild horses wouldn’t get me in that box.
Aunty Bev seems much more relaxed and accommodating today. Maybe it was the long weekend or maybe she just detests this witness just as much as we all do 😂😂
Jen probably has a reputation..😂
The latter is precisely what i said in my previous comment!
Jenn McCabe comes off as personally invested, way too much, and that she has something to loose if her narrative isn't what's portrayed. Ugh. Loathe this woman
And Lally barely objected too.
Noticed the difference as well!!
She chilled about a week ago. She pulled it back a little. I noticed a shift. I think she knows her life/job will be questioned if she fucks this up or shows to much bias. She also can leave major room for appeal for Karen should this go sideways for her. I don’t think it will but still.
Peter, I agree with your comments at 1:08. They (Albert's, McCabes, etc) are making it seem shady! I/my family and friends would absolutely be conversing about this horrible event. But their actions lead me to think they are trying very hard to hide something. Deleting calls, NOT going outside to investigate what is happening on your very own lawn!! Are you kidding me?? Me and my neighbors come out of our homes whenever something serious is happening on our street, as indicated by police cars, ambulance, etc, let alone in our own yard!!
*Those who have nothing to hide, hide NOTHING*
1. ‘WBZ-TV Report ‘ on 3 Feb 2022 (on YT) regarding the court hearing on 2 February 2022 (where KR faced the charges relating to JO’s death and was released on $50k bail) and upon questioning (as verified by the above report on YT) she told LE:
- She dropped JO off because she was having stomach issues.
- She made a 3 point turn in the road and left.
- She did not see JO enter the house (this contradicts her interviews a year later).
- Therefore confirming she did take JO to the Alberts house in her SUV (verifying the sightings of her SUV out the front are true).
- She first observed her broken taillight on that morning and did not know how she broke it (this contradicts the allegation it was due to hitting JO’s SUV on that morning - if she had hit JO’s SUV at around 5:00 am she would have known exactly why her taillight was broken and said so if it were true (story that’s also come out later).
- Confirmed she had said at the time of finding JO: “I hit him” - 4 times.
@@user-ji5gz5fu3g There are just SO MANY THINGS wrong with everything you just said lol. Stick to your day job which is DEFINITELY not being a lawyer 🤣
@@LittleMissStamper I have LE and an attorney in my family you f 🤡. Best you don’t contact LE for assistance in future. Who do you think you are, a nobody conspiracy theorist. I know what you mean though, I have a problem with KR making up the conspiracy theory over a year later and saying she saw JO go in to the house but had never said it before and also no one mentioning anything about her alleged MS. Is she a compulsive liar?
If I wanted your opinion of my opinion I would have asked for it. Good luck with your gf….ewww cringe! 😂
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THE “DEFENSE” THING:
1. Is this an innocent fraud campaign and the people giving evidence being witnesses, and/or, mere bystanders, are being treated as accused and charged potential criminals yet are not on trial here….KR is?
2. Is the Defense team a “team wrecking ball” and it’s a case of who are they going to blame next…..’Oscar the Grouch’ (if there was a trash can in the road), a stray cat, a crazy owl, and/or, the neighbours in Fairview Road, and them all being…..”IN ON IT”?
3. And continuing to create smoke and mirrors without providing any real factual evidence of an alleged “conspiracy theory” and “frame job”, yet they can’t even name who they (allegedly) think did it and put their money where their mouth is?
4. And if there really is something in the “conspiracy theory” and “frame job” why did they not appeal the judge’s decision (to the superior court) not to put the trial on hold pending the outcome of the FBI investigation that they allege is still ongoing after about a year or so (?) rather than pressing on with the trial?
5. Rather than, are they acting like car salesmen, d-grade actors or game show hosts, in the worst d-grade movie or game show you’ve ever seen?
6. Are they ignoring the facts and evidence which includes; it was a year after the fact that the “conspiracy theory” and “frame job” (which are not evidence) were formulated and the charges were upgraded to include second degree murder (with nothing being said of it earlier via court hearings or otherwise, and amongst other things including things said by KR to LE (eg. she did not see JO enter the Albert’s house yet via interviews over a year later she said she did) and KR hiring AJ who had acted for Weinstein and Spacey and had lost his bid to become a district attorney?
7. All of which contradicts what is being said now as part of the alleged “conspiracy theory” and “frame job”?
Go figure….?
Word on the street is that after this trial ends Erin Brokovich will be investigating the water supply in Canton because all these "Cantonites" on the witness stand seem to have amnesia....must be something in the water
Must be something in the booze 🫣
For me the biggest thing today are those deleted calls. I can tell you it’s been years since I’ve deleted a call and the last time I did I was being sneaky. So for JM to all of a sudden state she doesn’t know how all these many calls got deleted is just so suspicious. Literally nobody has any reason to delete those calls, only JM has reason to delete them.
22 of them at that
Yeah nah, didn’t want hubby to see them.
Deleting that message as I type. Lol.
I agree. The bunch of calls to his phone that she doesn't remember PLUS deleted the calls. I don't believe it. That was the point where I was like no... She is lying.
The deleted calls issue should have been handled as ‘the calls were deleted from your phone, if you didn’t do it, who had access to your phone except you during this time? Let’s see if she wanted to throw someone under the bus. If she said no one had access, then it’s a case of ‘the calls deleted themselves- correct?’. Highlight to the jury just how dishonest this was.
The reason why it seems shady is because it is shady!
Only Cloe knows the truth!!
Arf arf arf! Ruff Ruff Arf 🐕
He was ruffed up.
@@lilgnomeydude - we are family friends of the kids. It’s not funny
@@nicolewhite1288no it isn’t funny at all. What has happened to the kids is awful. Just terrible. My heart absolutely breaks for them. The terrible trauma and suffering, I hope they are ok. And I sure hope they don’t have to step foot in that courtroom.
Yeah and where is Chloe? We have no proof of where she is!
When John's arm is presented and the jury see those horrid dog bites (not road rash), this blows wide open and proves John was in the house. (AKA Murdaugh)
Butt dialing my foot. She was trying to find John's phone!! She is quite nasty on the stand.
Will John O'Keefe ever get justice?
I legitimately want to hear the explanation from prosecution as to how and what those injuries are supposedly caused by. And where is John's jacket? The reason those DOG BITES aren't worse is because I bet John was wearing a jacket during the attack.
John was murdered and Karen is being set up
Ooh! To find his phone! I couldn’t figure WHY she would delete them..that makes sense. The timing matches right?
I Think they’ve shown him in the house with the cell records showing “unknown” for the call at 12:29 and BA’s testimony about their being a cell tower dead spot in the house.
I too thought today when listening to this that they were trying to find his phone as well. These people are something else! Justice for Karen AND John!
I think this is the icing on the cake for the jurors:
All those calls in quick succession to Mr. O'Keefe's phone number . . . HAD to have been immediately after the scuffle (for lack of a better word) and were made because they were FRANTIC to figure out where it was or where it ended up. Maybe they thought it got dropped outside somewhere while they were moving him from the house to the lawn.
Mr. Jackson did well to present it in the context of human behavior that everyone recognizes and can relate to, including jurors. I don't think there's anything she could try to sell them on that they would entertain even for a second.
She was a piece of work today!!
I think auntie Bev isn’t buying Jens testimony and she’s letting Mr Jackson go at her
And Lally was asleep or dying 😂
Judge Cannone shocked me today letting all that in.
@@user-my5xp2vi6g I was surprised too. Maybe the FBI sitting in the background is something she can't ignore and she's having to properly call balls and strikes.
Judge related ?
This lady is the epitome of a “Karen”.
And if you’re offended, you are probably one.
Yes she is 😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂 Best comment yet! ❤💙🐧
Exactly!!
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Way way worse. Karen complains about dog poop. Looks to me like she set up her "good friend" to be assassinated and his gf to take the fall.
I agree with you I Peter, the judge was much less biased today. She's been infuriating me this whole trial. I definitely noticed far less sustained objections
She was calling to find his phone?? Oh my. This is a bad.
I used to live in a snowy place, and the more these people describe the yard around 12:30ish the more trouble i have believing John OKeefe could have been on the lawn and not seen by someone. By all accounts he wouldnt have been able to be buried under snow until hours later, and there was a light, just beginning to stick, covering of snow. Snow reflects so much light, even if that part of the yard is darker, no one saw a full frown man crumpled there?
Exactly, it's hard to believe that nobody leaving the house saw him
Especially when a dozen or more people have been coming and going for hours after midnight.
Only family friend Julie Nagel so far…oddly enough the first time she mentions seeing a ‘“blob” is during this trial.
Yes! When it snows in at our house at the Jersey shore, when there is fresh snow, everything is so bright no matter what time of day. Even in the dead of night!
And Jen lies constantly: places, didn’t make calls but her celebrite data says she did, she has 22 erased calls she says she didn’t erase… and that’s only the tip of the iceberg berg……
Peter is questionable on this case. I can’t believe he says defense doesn’t “prove….” Anything. They don’t have to. But in mind they have enough to get these liars on the stand charged.
She’s supposed to be the prosecutions smoking gun as far as witness statements go. She is the one who spearheaded the entire “I hit him claim” and today she got caught in several lies and prosecution did a great job in showing how she possibly was the puppet master for getting everyone on the same story that Karen hit him with those texts, getting Kerri over her house to form a timeline, going over to the Proctors house (super inappropriate btw), deleting calls and texts before turning her phone in, and listening in and reporting back to the group about Kerri’s statements. Then her husband is over there monitoring the crime scene reporting back about their “progress” in looking for more evidence. It’s not looking good. These are not normal actions of people who are not hiding something.
I mean defense did a good job
The McCabes daughter was driving around a lot. Who would they go to so much trouble protecting?
She spearheaded nothing. She and others heard her as well.
@@MelS4141I can’t figure out what he has on them - other than his daddy served a lil time for killing someone & maybe they are protecting him for Chris - daddy. Selectman for the town. The entire town voted to audit the police department because of this. I’ve heard awful things about Colin
@@nicolewhite1288I think at this point the world has heard horrible things. He's on the defence witness list, I wonder if they call him back?
I agree. The truth shouldn't sound like creating circles by these witnesses who appear very agitated, nervous, rehearsed with matching answers. Very suspicious.
Our friend, the guy…
Who needs enemies when you have "friends" like that