LIVE! Daybell Trial Update: Melanie Gibb Takes Stand - Why The Defense Thinks She Is The Key Witness
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I think that Melanie Gibb was the next one to be gone as she knew too much and was no longer an ally with that phone call in Hawaii.
And she told JJ’s grandparents that he wasn’t with her when Lori told them JJ was with her. Of course is understandable because the police was going to ask her to produce the kids too, but in Lori and Chad’s mind that must have been a betrayal.
I think you’re right.
@@lhr8833 I hate it when the attorney you keep saying right? It drives me crazy.
Oh! ZERO doubt! I just don’t know if this was before or after Alex, the “enforcer” conveniently died 🤔 lori doesn’t seem to have the guts to do it herself, or maybe she does but might as well use your psych0 brother since he’s offering? 🤦🏻♀️
@@sandygrogg1203 I know he is doing his job and Melanie covered way too much for them, but is not realistic to think the poor Chad was all the time involved and knew nothing about it.
She said the same thing at her sentencing. When Lori says "he's happy," it's code for dead.
Yep… free of the darkness=dead in body=alive and happy in spirit…that’s her twisted cult belief.
@@JackieOlanterntotally in her mind she is telling the absolute truth. They’re happy now in the spirit world. Lori defo believed all this crap but Chad! He is a million times worse. He never believed any of it.
I devoutly hope that nobody ever loves me as much as Lori loved Melanie, JJ, and Tylee.
Or as much as she loved Chad
Part of chads defense is blaming Alex, the phone call between Melanie, Lori and Chad completely dismisses that idea since Lori said “I don’t want AL to know where JJ is”
I hope the jury caught that!
Excellent point.
Except he did know where JJ was. He put him there along with Chad.
Charles Vallow is the one that changed the beneficiary to Kay. He made that decision based on his serious concerns and Lori's threatening ominous behavior. THEN approached his sister and let her know he's putting her as the beneficiary.
He changed the policy under the advisement of his attorney! Thank God Charles listened to his attorney. ❤❤
Catching up on the replay. Hello @Lawyer You Know, Peter, Mods, and Chat . . from Southern California. 👋🐾🇺🇸🐕🦺🦮
I despise John Prior!
I’ve been a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of latter-day Saints (AKA Mormon) my whole life. I promise you we do NOT believe in hurting children or weird dark and light spirits and stuff like this. We simple are taught to love everyone and be kind to everyone. All this weird crap is not part of our religion. Watching stuff like this where people go off and add their own evil take on things drives me nuts! Please know we aren’t crazy! Ha yes we are advised not to drink, do drugs and not have sex before marriage but it’s all there to prevent us from hurt and pain which drinking, drugs and all that leads to a lot of the time. Love your channel! I think you’re a very kind, caring and fair person! Thanks for all the videos! 😊
I'm a non Mormon, but was married to one and no, my husband did not believe in the garbage Lori and Chad do. They are psychos!❤
I think Mormos are some of the nicest people out there. I also think it is a cult! Their members are brain washed into all of these crazy beliefs. Look at Chad's kids as well as Tammy. So sad.
I know. I get it. I’m not Morman but because of some weirdos like, Lori, Chad, Melanie and then The 8 passengers/and the weirdo therapist, Cody Brown, etc are making it seem like all Mormans (LDS) are nutty. Most of us know this is not totally true. It’s like my religion (Judaism) and what’s going on in Isreal - the judgement from people! 😢. Can’t we all just get along! ❤
@Monica-gene1 The issue with the Mormon, LDS religion is the "claim" to be followers of Jesus Christ, YET...there's little to no mention of Jesus Christ. Every other name is mentioned above Jesus Christ...that's a huge problem...there are consequences for this. That's why you are seeing such deep, dark cases coming out of the Mormon faith. It's sad and tragic.
Be well and be at peace.
@@dz7a756 The name of the church is "The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day Saints." Jesus Christ is literally the first name mentioned! 😂
John Pryor isn’t aggressive. He’s blunt and direct. Big difference. I think he’s a brilliant attorney. He’s also doing it alone. As a lawyer myself, (family) I take my hat off to him.
Her is the thing with M. Gibb she was there with Chad and Lori at every major event. She was even there the night JJ was killed. Victim families believe she should have been charged too as conspirator. She is definitely selectively testifying what benefits her
I absolutely agree Gibb should have been criminally charged. Chad and Lori will never leave prison but BOTH Melanie's and Zulema shouldn't get off either. None of them reported to the authorities any information that could have saved lives. GIBB said on stand today the prayer circles for dark spirits meant, DEATH TO BODIES.
I disagree, I think she got sucked into a cult and waaay in over her head along with Zulema. Who would believe or suspect someone was killing a child when you believe they are righteous?
I think she does have some culpability for not saying something but if they wanted to get Chad and Lori they needed their testimony. They became the lesser of the evil ones. I saw someone post the ZP was given immunity but who knows…
@ caliwm9869,
I completely agree. I sincerely hope karma gets her.
If the defense calls you as a witness. Do they have to pay for travel and accommodations?
Love your show. Very concise n real! Ty . Rock on. Old hippie from s tx..
Also, Chad came up with the light/dark system in order to control who was in his life ie: alive or dead. You notice none of HIS children were ever dark.
Counselor that was an excellent episode you recapped and explained. At the end of your program someone in your live chat made a profound point that when John Prior casted doubt for his client, Chad Daybell when they said Melanie Gibb was there the night JJ was murdered and where's the proof Chad was there when JJ was killed? Lori's hair was on the duct tape evidence as well as a fingerprint from Alex Cox on the trash bag JJ was wrapped up in.
Then Alex Cox cellphone pinged right where the children were buried on 2 separate dates in September 2019 definitely could turn the spotlight on Melanie Gibb. David Warwick, boyfriend, now husband, who was also there with her at Lori's apartment #174 when JJ died or over at Alex's apartment #107
As I watched her today on the stand, it felt like she was hiding something by not giving any details.
I completely agree. I don't trust her anymore than I trust Daybell.
I'm pretty sure Prior was trying to get those texts in with Rob Wood because Wood is also a LDS member. As though they were conspiring something.
Peter, can you please explain demonstrative and stipulation.... they keep saying this
You ain’t got no Google?
@@mrmtoadlol 🤭
Do you know how to use google?😂😂😂😂
So, you’re saying reading something on Google will give you the same context as hearing it from an Attorney? Ok 😒🤣
@astrialindah2773 yeah, but the whole point of this channel is to hear elaboration from an attorney. The concept isn't that hard to understand.
Peter, Rewatch crew! I hope you cover Karen Read case! SO MUCH wild things including Fed investigation still on going & how local LE was so shady. (My husband is a cop & we are both blown away).
There is a secret recording of Melanie Gibb speaking to another woman that she corresponded with. Melanie does not know she is being recorded. Full recording on Hidden True Crime. Extremely illuminating. She did not kill anyone but she could have saved those children. This call is mind blowing!
How do I take advantage of these gifted memberships? I’d love to be a member
M Fibbs should be her best friends cellmate. Mel only went to LE after she was aware of her part in this horror. Too bad she was giving immunity, I don't think prosecution needed her.
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Prosection has previously stated that Melanie Gibb-Warwick was never offered immunity..
There needs to be continuous professional development on how to ask questions and when. This asking bad questions seems to really affect some of these trials.... or at least allows people to critique a lawyer who otherwise wouldn't be bad.
The exchanging texts 340 times in 6 months - wasn't that during the time they were looking for the kids?
It would be understandable then.
Does anyone know if Chad is in isolation in jail? Accusations of being involved with killing kids… not popular for the incarcerated
Chad will be in prison calling his boyfriend's "DAD"
Peter is there a way I can get ahold of you? I am thinking about filing a lawsuit and I was hoping you would be able to tell me maybe questions that I should ask to know if I'm being taken advantage of or not, and mostly if it's a case that maybe one of your firms could bring on because if possible I would trust anyone that would work with you over anyone else
You said chad didn’t know he was being recorded,but before he speaks on the call Lori says idk if you are recording this for police .they had a suspicion because Melanie never acted like this before.I think that’s one reason Chad jumped in w his little speech
It’s up to the judge to assess fine or jail, today they said she is still under subpoena.
She didnt lie on the stand under oath however.
You have to let them know its a subpoena..... If you just go to someone and say this is for you and simply have a letter or piece of paper and try to give it to them...there is not law saying you have to take it... If you tell them its a subpoena, then yes you have to take it or you are now effectively served.
It is the same way with filing for divorce, if a person just trys to shove a bunch of papers at you, that you have to take them... You dont know what someone might be trying to do.
I've seen people serving someone and not telling them until its in their hands that thet say ... you've been served. You have to tell them what it is... Can't just assume they know what the paperwork is.
When that looney Lori said JJ was "happy" on the phone call, that chilled me because that's what she said at her trial when she knew he was dead. "He is happy and busy."
And what is he busy doing? Psycho mom.
@@GWPdogmomin her head working all of these missions for G-D himself
Peter…I can’t get out of my head that the kids bodies were buried in his yard/property. There is no way he didn’t know anything! There’s even a text that he sent to Tammy which I believe is the day that Tylie’s body was burned and buried that says he killed a raccoon and burned it in the firepit!
Yep
Daybell knew.
Exactly and they did not find a raccoon in the firepit. I do think Prior was trying to shake MG up during her testimony.
Did the cell phone data place Chad in his yard the night he sent that text? I assumed he was having a rendezvous with Lori, and the text was to cover for Alec, who was in the yard. The data should clear that up.
@@windywednesday4166you’re right but proves he knew and was involved
If I was on the jury him telling his daughter “I’m not coming back” would be enough for me. I honestly would not need one more word of testimony, just his own words that came out of his own mouth
Excellent point.
Not freaking out that his wife's kids were found dead on his property shows he knew and was involved. That's all I need to show he was part of this.
And how the hell does the daughter not freak out about HUMAN REMAINS being buried in his yard??!!!! She was very passive about it… i don’t care if it was my mother/brother/kid…. I wld be like WTF! Why are bodies in the back yard??!!
The one thing i appreciated Prior doing was when he asked Gibb *paraphrasing- if you are doing castings on someone that is dark what is supposed to happen? Gets her to admit that the body dies when the evil spirit is casted out.
These ppl were doing castings on lots of people including CHILDREN! 😡. These nut jobs were essentially hoping for these people to die!
Now none of this excuses Chad and Lori and Alex for their direct actions but all these nut jobs have some accountability to all that happened as well. Gibb knew that they were doing castings on Charles…. He’s dead. They were doing castings on Melanie B’s husband and he almost died…. In fact Gibb went to spy on the aftermath for Melanie B and Alex & Lori. She was a willing tool and she knew damn well that castings were nothing more than a hit list that served Lori and Chad and Melanie B. Why isn’t Melanie B implicated in any of this?
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I completely agree with you. They need to go after the whole cult. I wonder how many more castings and murders they've committed and the authorities have no clue. I wonder also who has taken over Daybells position in the cult. 🤔
Dance like nobody is watching but text like it will be read in court one day.
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Hahaha 😂😅 so true!!
OMG 😂 I ❤ this quote!!! TLYK needs that is some new merch 😊 it is so true!
Good advice!
It's a good thing Chad and Lori were arrested ... Melanie would have turned 'dark' (and dead) in a big hurry.
I’m sure she as dark as soon as she hung up that phone. 🧟
No doubt. Probably at least partially explains why she and prosecutor communicated so much!
I love Nate Eaton, one of THE best journalist. So down to earth. No drama. Take note MSM.
Nate Eaton is The Best!
100%
❤Nate too
He even said if he got offered Dateline with Keith Morrison he’d still keep his EIN job.
Nate is a national treasure! ❤
Wait for it Peter….in Lori’s trial and her sister had said that Tammy was training for a marathon right before she died and also worked out..I think she even worked out with her daughter 🤔 you’re in poor health you’re able to do this….nope don’t think so
Working out with heart failure...no she would have shown symptoms like peripheral oedema , shortness of breath etc
And since the assumption they had was that she had heart failure like her dad, yeah right, fatigue would have been the first symptom. That is why I find insane that he didn’t have any evidence that she actually had any heart failure and the medical examiner didn’t determine that this young, healthy woman that died a sudden death needed an autopsy.
It will be a battle because Emma is going to testify that her mother was not feeling well weeks before her death. I believe they were taking dance classes
@@SweetKarina123 still that is not evidence of her having any heart failure. Something failed here and wasn’t her heart. I always had the understanding that an autopsy is obligatory when a person is otherwise healthy, young and dies suddenly. It blows my mind how whoever came to Chad’s house took his word for it. The daughter makes me a little mad protesting when they actually did it. I understand she wants to protect her dad, but if she really thinks he is innocent, then what is the problem confirming it. That is her mom and she is ok with just ignoring the elephant in the room.
Pryor likely pissed off LDS jurors or even non LDS jurors. His rudeness would totally turn me off if I were a juror!
right and then he is surprised when the witness is short with him.
to be fair, the LDS practices "conversion therapy" which include locking children inside a small room with no food or water.
It is considered torture by the vast majority of the UN and nearly all psychologists.
I found this questioning to be overwrought and deliberately misleading, and if were a juror I’d be so irritated with the defense attorney at this moment.
The reason Miu’s lies were so devastating to his case is that they were lies designed to help HIMSELF. How could he expect OTHER people to believe it was self defense if his lies make it seem like HE doesn’t even believe it?
On the other hand, Melanie’s lie was meant to help her cousin who she believed was in need. She was lead by Lori to believe that Lori was being falsely accused or railroaded, and as soon as she realized that it was in fact HER that was being mislead, she immediately corrected her lie and told the police the truth.
And at that point, there’s no further incentive for her to keep lying. Unlike in Miu’s case, she didn’t admit to the lie only when she was caught and has no choice. And unlike Miu, once she was no longer on board with helping Lori escape justice it doesn’t make any sense for her to continue lying about other things. The entire incentive structure behind the initial lie was gone.
So any comparison between Miu’s lies and Melanie’s is, in my opinion, a false one.
So I find this lawyer to be harping on the one lie she did tell, because he doesn’t have much else to say to this witness or anybody else for that matter, so he’s resorted to making mountains out of molehills.
I agree with most of your reasoning. Quick FYI: Melanie Gibb isn't related to Lori. The other Melanie (Brandon Boudreaux's ex-wife) is Lori's niece.
I completely agree. She wasn't lying for her self, she was lying for a trusted friend. Hence why she was conflicted. She wanted to believe her friend. But like you said, when she realized she'd been manipulated and used she came clean. Definitely NOT the same as Miu. Good argument. 😊
@@MaybeitsclusterB And the niece spells her name Melani without the e at the end.
@@Skyesoceaneyes ah thank you!
Chad was a gravedigger….JJ & Tyler were in professionally dug graves….if he wasn’t in on it, how would that be explained? 🤔
I'm definitely not rooting for the defense in this case, but it's super cathartic to see Melanie Gibb finally called out for her own lies. She better be thanking her lucky stars that she was somehow able to gain immunity because she should really be behind bars with Chad and Lori.
Totally agree.
Completely agree. In fact rewatch her interview with Nate, pay attention to how she talks about the kids. She reffers to them as "passed away" and the interview was BEFORE the kids were found. Rewatching the interview was really interesting comparing to what she is saying on the stand now.
And I'd like to know who she blew to get that immunity.
In the Nate interview, he asked her if she felt the kids were still alive and she said no none of us thought the kids were alive at this point. it’s not because she had prior knowledge. It’s because it was obvious.
Another Prior Prank!! Win at any cost...ridiculous!
I mean… yeah that’s kinda his job. It’s obnoxious but most of winning a trial is psychology. And if you don’t have the evidence on your side you have to use that to the fullest extent, like repeat 10 times in 1 minute that Mel. give us a liar 😂. It’s actually a brilliant tactic. Cause she IS a liar and now the jury might second guess everything she says. I can’t stand him but he’s a great lawyer.
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They are trying to make this look like Lori was the principal. For me both are equally guilty, however the way Lori didn’t allow the defense to attack her beliefs and Chad, gives the idea that she was actually convinced in her own mind. Chad is like all is fair in this defense, feels like he always knew this was bad, but was trying to convince people. Feels like when Ruby said that she was defending everything until she noticed that Jody changed her convictions as soon as they got caught. All guilty, but I don’t think this defense is making Chad look like the poor manipulated victim.
Even if he didn’t actively murder Tylee & JJ, how can he even try to blame someone else for Tammy? Him and Garth were the only ones there.
@@SheezaPI he is throwing spaghetti at this point to see who else he can incriminate. I hope the jury sees his true colors.
@@SheezaPI and remember, Tammy hadn’t been to the doctor in ages, but somehow he was convinced she inherited her dad’s heart failure. Must be because of those visions he had about her dying young. I just can’t believe the first responders that went after Tammy’s death took his words as fact without any medical evidence.
I agree. I've been conflicted about what each of them really believed. But the more I see the more I'm believing that Lori really is delusional, and became convinced of all of these beliefs.(And since she relied on Chad's "powers", she can delude herself that he REALLY DOES have these powers. On the other hand it's much more likely that Chad knows hes full of shit. The answers come for himself. So he'd have to be really warped to think God is just providing them to him. And I fully believe the rating of people was decided on what benefited him, AND what made Lori happy. I'm sure he did rate Tylee as dark. AFTER Lori bitched about her for 20 minutes, and then asked him if he'd sensed any "darkness" in her. She was telegraphing to him exactly what she wanted from him.
@@lhr8833 If I were a juror, I'd be pretty skeptical of this "spaghetti" defense. Pointing the finger at one or two other people who may have been working against your client is possibly a really good strategy. Attempting to throw suspicion on absolutely everyone comes across as desperate and disingenuous.
The reason why MG lied and said that JJ was with her, was because she told MG that Kay and Larry were trying to take JJ away and that people were after her (Lori). Lori asked her to lie to protect JJ. and herself. THEN she figure out that something was OFF. THUS THIS CALL.
Yep… I think Melanie is a wacko who believed in and may still believe in all this hocus pocus but I don’t know if I believe she would keep quiet about the murder of 2 children… 😟
I agree! And as soon as she knew something was really wrong she went to the police and told the truth. Everything she knew.
Lori's manipulating is off the charts. Her tone of voice when she says "Sorry you feel that way. I love you so much" So fake
I'm waiting for John Prior to ask Melanie Gibb, "Is it true, ma'am, that YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH? Mr. Prior is not phased at all by the objections because he keeps it going! You may not like him but one thing for sure, he's not a wimp, and he is defending his client to the best of his abilities. I give him props for that. As for Melanie Gibb, regardless of Prior's curt questions, she remains calm, cool and collected. She lied once, and she could lie again! Prior is baiting her.
I agree! If a defense lawyer is likable, they’re not doing their job! It’s walking a fine line between being aggressive but not making the jurors loathe you. I think he’s just barely pulling it off. It reminds me of Hannah Gutierrez’ lawyer from the Rust trial- a total wimp and came off as incompetent because he wasn’t aggressive at ALL. Not even assertive. It was like he was afraid to be there 😂.
@@kateashby3066That’s what I’m saying! Maybe Prior is annoying and unlikable, but at least he’s doing his job 🤷🏼♀️
Hannah’s lawyer was sitting comfortably with his phone at the police station, while Hannah was being interviewed and told on herself and he didn’t intervene ONCE!
@@joakuz it’s ok if we don’t like him but there are reports coming out of Boise that the jurors find him unlikable
He’s had years to perfect his role in this case. Also, he sat in Lori’s trial every day.
@@yankeecitygirl Prior doesn't give a sh*t if the jurors don't like him, he is doing an excellent job for his client, that is the role of a defence lawyer! In addition, there should not be reports that the jurors don't like him, they are not supposed to be talking about any elements of the case, period!... So where else could the so-called reports be coming from?
I think the jury is smart enough to realize that many of his questions are dishonest so he has nerve to focus on her admitted lie.
His credibility isn’t nearly as important as a witness’. The fact is, MG is as bad as the rest and only flipped to save her own a s s. Plus she’s a proven liar. So they SHOULD take what she says with a grain of salt. They should also keep a close eye on Pryor and be careful not to latch onto any of his B S.
I hope so. If I was a juror, I would respect that he has a job to do, but at the same time find his bullying tactics a turn off.
Is it possible, if Tammy was indeed presenting as “sick”, that she was being poisoned?
Ive thought this for a long time. And especially bc i just watched old movie Notorious where Ingrid Bergman was being slowly poisoned by her husband. Slowly getting sicker and sicker…
Malachite, ingested in powdered form is LETHAL! Mimics natural death! Me thinks Joe Ryan, Tammy Daybell, Alex Cox, and Chad's nieghbor all drank/ate something sprinkled with MALACHITE DUST.😮
Of course! Just like we all think that’s what happened to Alex. Frankly I can’t believe how easy it was for him to k!LL her and take a ton of money in insurance and no one investigated (she was young and very active!).
I believe she was being poisoned.
I think Melanie is truly confused about much of this , and I’m not giving her a pass because i quite frankly can’t understand how this case doesn’t haunt her day and night but ….it does make sense to me that she knows some of the details better because they have been discussed more often.
The way the use religion to exert power and control over each other. Bloody weird
I agree with Peter. The defense needs to focus on Chad and his actions, not on Lori.
Prior would have the jury believe that a comedian killed and buried 2 bodies at different times in the yard of an undertaker without him ever knowing about it.
I hope the prosecution will hammer that point home and how ridiculous that scenario is.
Living in Clearwater Peter is probably aware of the expert suppena avoider himself David Miscavage
I recently learnt about the Clearwater-Scientology connection! If I lived in Clearwater, I probably wouldn't speak publicly about Scientology 😂
You a fan of AAron???
@@amandamacabre 😂😂yeah I'm sure Peter wouldn't dare to say a word against them. It's sad tough that they're so powerful there that people are scared of them
But he finds a way to sue everybody.
@@amandamacabrethey would make you disappear.
The way Lori said "You know Kays dark" makes me feel like theyve had that conversation about Kay before and were in agreement about it!
You know I think you’re right. The more I think about it and the more times I listen to this recorded call, Lori gets very annoyed and suspicious because MG isn’t agreeing with her as if they had been in agreement about such things before.. perhaps about who is light and dark, but I really don’t think MG knew the kids were in danger or dead. Lori didn’t react to her questions about JJ like she did when discussing Kay. But who really knows with these weirdos.
1:03:45. This the defense attorney is a beast. Did He just plant reasonable doubt?!! But that still doesn't explain them trying to find an apartment and him saying the have no kids. And the remains being left on his yard. And the text messages about the pet cemetery ( did they mention that in this trial)
Melanie made me sick on the stand....she was really evasive. I know people forget things when it's been years...but we remember all the things you said
Melanie has always made me sick...
I completely agree with you. I can't stand her. She loves being the center of attention. It makes her feel important.
Amen. She’s slippery & spineless. When the heat got to her, then & only then, did she begin to cooperate with authorities.
LYK: You can not serve someone who is in the couet under subpoena in Idaho. If you look back at the video in the BK case when the defense wanted to subpoena someone from out of state, it said in the subpoena that under Idaho rules they can not be served during that time.
Washington State courts also have an arrest rule, unless specifically authorized by judge LE can’t enforce an arrest wart in courthouse. Designed to keep the courthouse open to defendants trying to address cases.
Well she has an all encompassing 'the Lord's plan' do whatever she wants pass it seems. That's an amazing life cheat code... The ability to twist and use that for doing such horrible .. unloving, cruel.. dark things. Just can't wrap my head around it.
Wondering why Melanie G.’s “relationship” with a prosecutor is important, ie the number of emails between them? What am I missing?
I don’t know how many of the jurors really know about the story, but if they didn’t hear the chronological order of how this hideous crime happen I think they would be quite confused. I’ve been following this story from day one it’s atrocious. I don’t even know if Stephen King could write the story. That’s how bad it is.
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I’d like to think the prosecution will neatly cover that in closing bc you’re right, it’s a lot!
Lori says I wouldn't do anything to harm you that's a very telling statement
How could anyone have "cardinal" feelings about Chad? Blaaaahhh! Gross!
Based on what Melanie Gibb is saying, could the police charge her in helping cover up the murder of JJ & Tylee? Or would have have signed something with the police before all of this that she can't be charged? Because she lied to the police about the kids. I understand why she is such an important witness but she still lied. It's really difficult for me to look past that. I also noticed in her interview with Nate that she referred to the kids as "passed on" in the same way she referred to Tammy & Charles. This was BEFORE the kids were found. Maybe in the end it doesn't matter maybe it's more important she stand trial and help prove Chad had a huge part in this entire case and is responsible for the death of Tammy, JJ & Tylee. I really don't know if Melanie testifying helped their case..
I feel like it did for Lori's trial but I feel a lot differently now that more time has passed when it comes to Melanie..
I'm sure Melanie wishes this would end. She has been dealing with this for years.
That's her karma for getting involved with these evil people that let's not forget she enjoyed spending a lot of time with. I believe she could of saved the children's lives. IMO I have no sympathy for her.
@@a.j2603 I don’t think she or anyone else thought what happened would ever happen. It’s a cult run by Chad daybell lots of brainwashing in cults. She knows something isn’t right but I don’t believe at all she thought the kids were in danger or dead.
@@a.j2603. Well said let her suffer for not reporting this to police.
Oh please… She loves all of it. She loved being interviewed. Did you watch that interview? My God you would’ve thought she was a movie star being interviewed for a new show! She kept flicking her hair and smiling children are dead. Spouses are dead and she literally is grinning and flicking her hair through the whole thing she is disgusting… She’s as bad as they are… She should probably be in prison as well
I really found her to be suspect! She should be charged as an accomplice. Both Melanie’s knew and they were both all in when Charles and Tammy died. They are disgraceful. That fact that Melanie Fibb came back with the testimony she presented shoes her deviousness.
The kids were buried so that Chad could see their graves out his kitchen window one way and the other within view of his bedroom window so he could look at them every day. Creepy!
I thought Melanie held her own against Prior. I wouldn’t be able to remember every event, the time of day and who attended every event during a weekend with friends 5 yrs ago. Of course I’d remember some of it, but not exactly what, when & who, especially under oath.
The issue is Melanie would be able to recall certain things on a certain day, but other things that happened on the same day she ‘can’t recall’. As a juror those inconsistencies would stick out to me. I noticed it a lot during her testimony on cross examination
@@JamesCM86 so what you’re saying is you can remember every moment of every day that you did from four or five years ago?
@@Tammy_26Irwin erm, no that’s not what I’m saying, not sure how you deduced that. But when questioned by the defense Melanie’s memory quickly disappeared even though when asked by the prosecution about something on the same day, she could remember. Even when related to the SAME event on a certain day. Not credible. So if you are a juror with a reasonable IQ you would be able to see how inconsistent her testimony is. Not sure why you are triggered by that.
She's saying she has selective memory. She remembers what she wants to remember and forgets what she wants to forget.
Remember when Chris Watts called his children's preschool and unenrolled them the morning they went missing? I didn't think anyone was that stupid.
In Boise John Prior is referred to as 'Prior with a prior'. I would encourage you to Google John Prior plea deal 2012. Prior was 50 years old at the time. His victim was a single 19 year old girl.
Oh my goodness…. Well that explains the strange vibes I was getting from him! How terrible. :(
Wow I appreciate the information. He’s disgusting
Prior did nothing with Gibb. Everyone was so worried and she did great.
I agree! I was worried at first but she held her ground and didn’t allow Prior to set the narrative
What do you mean she did great? Because she only confessed to ONE unforgivable lie? Couldn't remember anything helpful at all?
She came across as unreliable. Her selective memory was laughable
Yes, thank you
@@Somegirl811 I believe she means great because the other witnesses have allowed Prior to manipulate their testimonies. Prior has done a good job twisting and setting the narrative and with Melanie we thought he would do the same.
I would ALWAYS assume I'm being recorded if I was involved in something like this.
Not only that but lori and Chad are narcissists and narcs are very paranoid. They have no morals and will do anything to get what they want, so they assume everyone else is like that too and it makes them paranoid-delusional. My dad was a narc (deceased now) and he came up with some whoppers! He accused me at age 15 of stealing a diamond ring from his room and replacing it with a CZ 🤦🏻♀️ as if a 15 year old knows how to do that. That’s just ONE example. So Lori and Chad were def experiencing this, enough to not tell their BFF Melanie where they were when she called! And Lori immediately accused her of working with police as soon as MG confronted her about the lies regarding JJ.
She knows way more than telling! This is not difficult to see by layman. There is a problem.
They wouldn’t have buried the kids on his property if he didn’t know anything about it.
He is GUILTY AS SIN!!!
These people are so bizarre. They are the "dark" ones accusing others of being so. Incredible, they are "light?"
Wow!
How was Lhori so stupid.she didn't know Melanie was recording this ?
Mel Gibb helped Lori come up with a story (that Lori had cancer) so Kay Woodcock could take JJ full time to live with Kay in La., and then Lori could devote full time to her so-called “mission,” yet Lori is hiding JJ from Kay bc Kay wants to “take” JJ. Make that make sense???
She's really good at avoiding questions. Just pretend she doesn't understand. There is a name for that.. I can't recall. Not hostile 🤔
The lord does not instruct you to lie . Not turn y this into a religious thing . Fear the one who can take your soul and place it where he pleases . They are both guilty as sin . Total blasphemy by lorri vallow and Dayybell
#1.thou shalt not kill, !
Tammy was training for some type of marathon or 5k. She wasn’t sick or weak!
Those beliefs are NOT Christian. God is supreme power to Christians. He does not allow possession or zombies for his children. Just pray. You are 100% safe with Christ.
In Texas, it is legal to record as long as one party approves. My dad used it to help him prove he didn’t know about crap a partner was doing.
That's not true for every state but it is in Idaho.
Regardless of any diversion tactic, the bottom line is the children were found on his property and there’s no way he didn’t know they were there and that’s exactly what the juries are going to be thinking when they fry him
Pryors condescending snarky tone really turns me off. I can’t see how that wouldn’t be noticed by the jury. It makes him un-likable
These ppl are so crazy. Chad and crazy woman already convicted. These ppl are DISTURBED
Chad is guilty. Lori is guilty. Melanie should have been charged. Not remembering key points from a trial that was less than two years ago is convenient.
These people, these beliefs, are just whack. I love Lori using the Lord told her when Melanie called her out on not being a loving friend. It's just wild what what people will do under the cover of religion..
you’re the man!!! As always, well done, Sir!! 🤩
The narrative made by Prior in regard to accusing Melanie Gibb of "plotting a murder with Lori" sounded absolutely absurd. The phone call made it sound pretty clear that Melanie didn't want to let on that she was recording them to find out where the kids were - so to turn around and insinuate she was involved with their homicide was simply idiotic IMO.
Like Peter said, what motive would Gibb have for wanting the kids gone!?
Really? She was putting on a show for the cops to try to make herself look innocent because she was in trouble for lying about having JJ which directly contributed to the delays in finding him and saving his life. Tired of people excusing her.
@@Somegirl811
Exactly. Thank you. She has immunity for a reason and it's not innocence.
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Just because you can't figure out a motive, doesn't mean there wasn't one. It didn't have to have anything to do with wanting the kids dead. It could have had to do with something she did and wants Lori or Lori and Chad to keep their mouths shut.
She didn’t know he was dead , I n my opinion
Melanie and David heard this kid being murdered and called it a "nightmare" or David having a "vision", that led to Melanie going to Lori's bedroom in the middle of the night.
He was focusing on Melanie’s “ not remembering what actual day of the week that things took place” I wouldn’t remember those details 4years later either. She remembered the actual events that took place. Prior just wanted to have the jury see that Melanie’s faculties aren’t to be trusted
This was Melanie playing CYA bc she knew Tylee was gone. She also suspected or knew JJ was gone. She also knew that she was on this up to her neck and is implicated. She had to put a block wall between them, so she made this call and recorded it. I cringe at MG!
Yes, this! She was totally protecting herself only! She wanted confirmation on record that she didn't know anything. She was there the night they 'disappeared' him to uncle Alex's next door.....
After the call, wouldn’t an innocent husband look at their wife and demand to know “where the children are?”
Lori’s son Colby announced he is having a son with his wife ❤
When was this ?
If you have not effectively been served with a subpoena, you have no obligation to appear. Once you have been legally served, you are obligated to appear.
I hope Kay takes the stand soon after MG’s testimony so the jury can meet the woman they were calling dark. 💔
Could the "intervenor" lawyer from yesterday have just withdrawn his motion instead of having to appear yesterday?
SURE WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER OFF HAD HE DONE SO..or been able to do so!!😅
They had to deal with his crap on Easter Sunday they wouldn't let him get away that easily 😂
No, the appearance was required because he should never have filed it in the first place and had to be sanctioned for that.
Both men seemed like they truly believed they were 100% correct and our judge was way wrong so it seemed like they were arrogant and defying enough that they would never back down. I bet they proceed to appeal.
Intervener 😂 my new favorite word!
You HAVE TO WATCH “Hidden True Crime” interview with HEATHER DAYBELL- It’s a MUST WATCH
Very good interview with Heather who is very credible
Who is she ?
This is my beat laboratory. Don't touch my drum set. Don't look at it! Good show Peter!
I am the rewatch crew. I watched the trial but so appreciate you breaking things down the way that you do. I also saw Friday Frenzie. So many people said they found Rob and Emily from you and vice versa. I found them and Runkle from you. You have all enriched my life beyond what words can say. Be well and thanks you for all that you do Peter❤
They are all such great people! I watch all of them too. I discovered them during the Johnny Depp & the witch's trial.
This call occurred early on in the search for the children, but it's very telling to me that M. Gibb NEVER MENTIONS TYLEE! Not once! Mrs. "I felt an obligation to share with them everything I knew" is also evasive around certain topics. This call sounds like a blueprint of self-servitude. "Not from someone who knows as much as you, Mel!" says a lot that I would hope could be revealed.
Sidebar: Gibb's comment re: "Oh honey, you've got a lot of natural desires. We all know that." combined with the brief excerpt from one of Zulema's interviews with police which the defense wrongly played on cross where Z mentions that Gibb and Lori shared a room... Gadzooks! This murderous sex cult appears bigger than just C+L.
It feels so telling that Chad mentions the need to "testify," and that his children have "testified." An odd choice of words indeed.
Daybell is guilty. Why do I think that? Alex was in his yard with JJ’s body on September 23rd from 9:55am to 10:12am. That’s 17 minutes. The grave must have been pre-dug (by Chad who digs graves for a living) and the boards and rocks placed there for him to use. Alex only had to place the wrapped child’s body in the hole and cover using what was prepared for him. There is no way Alex could have dug the hole, found the boards and rocks and covered the grave in 17 minutes by himself. Chad knew where J.J. was.