Thank you Cate and Saifedean. Information that needs to be deliberately widely broadcast. Thanks especially for the comments about statins and seed oils being a recipe for dementia. People need to hear that.
Hey Saifedean! Many thanks for this episode! I have been looking for a presentation of this book for a really long time. Related to an audience's question/reply: It is true that for ages young people have been pushed away from the farmer business cause it's tough, but it's also true that all over the world, more and more young men and women (who are also RUclipsrs) are going back to agriculture with different approaches than the "conventional" one, in order to grow their own nutritious food, not due to the income but to their health. More experts are popping up in the emerging field of soil restoration. So this open up other interesting points, as the doctor mentions: weak food production and soil depletion, which are again caused by many of the wrong ideas on which we founded our modern western society, as you were telling. I think this is as important and goes side by side with this, cause in the end it's always about what we eat. If you like to dive into these topics as well, you would find many experts out there. In case you have already made an episode on this, please share in the replies, I'd be glad to watch to it too. Many thanks again
Dr Knobbe also studied the Maasai and he said that they are healthy. Most live until their forties and very few until sixty. Every civilization is based on grains. I'm not against meat, I love a steak and I make my omelette with butter, never with any seed oil. Not even olive oil. I'm a little over halfway through the video and Dr Cate hasn't mentioned Ezekiel bread, my favorite! Best way to eat carbs for me, Japanese and Chinese along with Indians and if I am not mistaken, Middle Eastern peoples have rice as their main food. Raw milk cheese for fifty years, no pasteurized milk for fifty years.
It seems like as with economics, there seems to be "Austrian Nutrition", where if you understand how your body freely interacts with certain substances, and that they act with a purpose, you can be led down the right path. And if you follow the Keynsian staticians, you end up with seed oils, vegetable fats, and hundred ingredient patent foods
Also apparently the Inuits did at times eat up to 50% of their diet from whatever plant matter they could find. Chris Masterjohn has spoken about this, for example, referring to historical researchers.
Another great show! I am curious to know for people that eat fresh salads of raw vegetables, and avoid seed oils: what do you dress your salads in? Anyone have any good non-seed oil dressing ideas? Thanks! I cook with beef tallow that I render myself, but I dont think it will work for a vinaigrette. Perhaps thats further proof I shouldnt be eating rabbit food. ;-)
De Cate! I know that there’s a detrimental system that affects us. Although, How could Latin American countries overpass this situation and try to eat healthier in order to improve their health? It will be very nice if you set up a video for countries like Perú or Chile, or any other one here. I see here seed oils are being used as something uncontrollably unhealthy. Cheers ❤
I am eating carnivore. Nose to tail...and bone broth. Fruit / avocado / olives / eggs / little lactose-free milk / coffee in the morning / Hunny... never felt better. I got this from CarnicoreMD Paul Saladino
@@kingzion3032 3 months or so. Before that i eat meat but also plants and carbs, and sugar. I am still experimenting, but this seems to be working very well.
@@kingzion3032 The big change in diet is no more sugar (honey raw is oke), No more seed oils..only animal vet. Fewer plants, (read above). Big changes are Energy, mood, confidence (testosterone?). I think many problems people have will magically disappear when they try this...take care
It’s worse with socialized medicine, my taxes are now paying for diabetic supplies, free surgeries, free/subsided meds. So now, not only crazy toxic food, but crazy,metabolically unhealthy street people, attacking people, starting fires due to cognitive impairment! I’ve had numerous medical procedures in my 75 years- in retrospect- all due to diet….I remember in the 60’s, my parents stopping butter, no fat on meat etc.- in about 5 years 1972, my dad died of a heart attack at 48 years of age. I’d like to sue somebody over that. My point is, in countries with socialized medicine, this ‘parasitic’ grip of ‘the sickness business’ will bankrupt our economy…….Frankly I’m scared ! Bring back the buffalo! Also I’m so lucky to have a carnivore butcher here in Nanaimo🇨🇦, I can get all sorts of grass fed meats…..my latest tasty dish is fried chicken skin, then caramelize an onion, final add liver pieces and salt…yumm!🙏
As you go down the bitcoin rabbit hole, its really hard to process how the system is so broken and how nothing is ever done for the peoples greater good. Shocking stuff.
So are we saying that oils in seeds and nuts are bad? So would, for instance eating almonds be bad? Please clarify or are we only talking about "seed oil"? Are nuts and seeds different?
Yes nuts are bad. Most people have immune reactions to them, but can still tolerate them. But many people have allergic reactions. But they aren’t good for anyone. Maybe only few times a year.
@@connorjones4893 That's not even true that most people have issues with them lol. Not everyone can handle nuts but many people have no issues with them at all. If you have issues with them don't eat them if you don't then eat them if you want to. People are scared of anything nowdays. Even food coming from nature itself... People need to travel more. From one continent to another people eat differently. Peanuts are a huge part of the diet in Sub Saharian Africa countries, and those countries don't suffer near much from all those chronic diseases than western countries are facing today. Which is why they did not get hit by Covid as much as the Western world. Same in many Asian countries by the way. People should focus on the elephant in the room (sugar, alcohol, processed food, stress) instead of supposed needle in the room.
@@HereDiianas yeah that’s true but I was just saying all people will have an immune responds to eating nuts… because your body sees it as a toxin…. Like most plant foods.
Though Dr Cate recommends peanut oil, she does make the disclaimer that it is higher in PUFAs than the other oils she recommends. Therefore, one must be careful when heating it while cooking. She covers this near the end of her book, Deep Nutrition (available in audiobook form, btw).
the problem is the omega6 (Linoleic Acid) quantity, which is too high in seed oils, we wouldn't be able to get this concentrated amount eating whole foods... this fatty acid was not designed by nature to be used as a fuel into our cells, it is used as a signaling molecule and as part of the cells membranes.... having your cell with excess of omega 6 will make them fragile to any kind of stress. when omega6 breaks down, it generates toxic byproducts such as aldehydes, which will react with other cells on a free radical cascade... when this pro oxidant state is too much, the body's antioxidant system is overwhelmed and can't stop the damage... then you got a broken cell, broken mitochondria and a disease... each organ will respond in a way, but the root cause is the same, at the celular level.... I hope this was clarifying... I recomend you to watch this recent summit which was 100% focused on seed oils harms: ruclips.net/channel/UCk1KVcKlqD1T3BvMqJ0n8Fwvideos I also recommend you to watch all content by Tucker Goodrich, Dr. Chris Knobbe and obviously Dr. Cate Shanahan.
largely seed oils themselves because they are refined bleached deoderized, 80% avg fat intake comes from this... salmon and while food sources have polyunsaturated fats that are better protected in the actual structure of the food itself, much less damage unless u just cook them in extremely high heat for some reason.... even the animal fats have some polyunsaturated fats in them, the issue is when the amount far exceeds what our antioxidant defense systems can handle which is what happens with seed oils.... combine that with a dependency upon sugar for energy and your in for a tough ride
Only 30 min in good stuff, when did the three meals a day/ 6 small meals science come in ? some fasting can be very beneficial, two books that were really helpful , last year for me Good Calories Bad Calories and Why We Get Fat author Gary Taubes
Good interview 👍 but dude got way too heavy handed and preachy about carnivore around the 1:20 mark. Not everyone feels great on a ton of red meat. Some people feel sluggish and not at their mental peak, this is how I am.
Another amazing podcast! And also The Fiat Standard is finally on Audible ;)
i love her so much , such a special soul
Dr. Cate,you are my Spirituality and Wellness Pillar❤
Very interesting and informative. Thank you for your efforts, and for sharing your knowledge and expertise.
Great interview!!
Dr. Shanahan's sincerity and teaching is absolutely terrific and adorably presented.
Dr Cate, You are a GEM!!!!
I cut out seed oils. And I still have back pain
Thank you Cate and Saifedean. Information that needs to be deliberately widely broadcast. Thanks especially for the comments about statins and seed oils being a recipe for dementia. People need to hear that.
I read Deep Nutrition in 2018 and the Bitcoin Standard in 2021, excellent to see these two worlds collide!
❤
Heres a good varierty:
Oysters
Clams
Shrimp
Lobsters
Crabs
Octopus
Duck
Chicken
Goose
Turkey
Beef
Lamb
Goat
Kefir
Saurkraut
Milk
Eggs
Organ meats
Stock & Broth
Tallow
Simply great! Downloaded a copy of "Nutrition and Physical Degeneration" and looked at the pictures, it's mind-boggling. Thanks so much!
I definitely crave liver! Saifedean, Thank you for this interview!! Dr Cate Shanahan is really helping me understand how we got into this mess.
Hey Saifedean! Many thanks for this episode! I have been looking for a presentation of this book for a really long time.
Related to an audience's question/reply: It is true that for ages young people have been pushed away from the farmer business cause it's tough, but it's also true that all over the world, more and more young men and women (who are also RUclipsrs) are going back to agriculture with different approaches than the "conventional" one, in order to grow their own nutritious food, not due to the income but to their health. More experts are popping up in the emerging field of soil restoration.
So this open up other interesting points, as the doctor mentions: weak food production and soil depletion, which are again caused by many of the wrong ideas on which we founded our modern western society, as you were telling.
I think this is as important and goes side by side with this, cause in the end it's always about what we eat. If you like to dive into these topics as well, you would find many experts out there. In case you have already made an episode on this, please share in the replies, I'd be glad to watch to it too.
Many thanks again
Dr Cate Publix has great grass fed beef options! I’ve also found some farms near Clermont that sell heart etc
So powerful and true. Resonates with everything I've learned in regards to health and diet in my life.
Excellent info -- life changing info - quality of life changing info - thank you.
She's the best. 🎉
Dr Knobbe also studied the Maasai and he said that they are healthy.
Most live until their forties and very few until sixty.
Every civilization is based on grains.
I'm not against meat, I love a steak and I make my omelette with butter, never with any seed oil.
Not even olive oil.
I'm a little over halfway through the video and Dr Cate hasn't mentioned Ezekiel bread, my favorite!
Best way to eat carbs for me, Japanese and Chinese along with Indians and if I am not mistaken, Middle Eastern peoples have rice as their main food.
Raw milk cheese for fifty years, no pasteurized milk for fifty years.
It seems like as with economics, there seems to be "Austrian Nutrition", where if you understand how your body freely interacts with certain substances, and that they act with a purpose, you can be led down the right path. And if you follow the Keynsian staticians, you end up with seed oils, vegetable fats, and hundred ingredient patent foods
Loving the low time preference discussion.
Excellent interview, thoughtful questions too.
Amazing episode , thank you safedean.
We need to start a movement to draft Cate to become Surgeon General for life.
Great info in this interview. Thanks Saif.
Great video!
Also apparently the Inuits did at times eat up to 50% of their diet from whatever plant matter they could find. Chris Masterjohn has spoken about this, for example, referring to historical researchers.
Another great show! I am curious to know for people that eat fresh salads of raw vegetables, and avoid seed oils: what do you dress your salads in? Anyone have any good non-seed oil dressing ideas? Thanks!
I cook with beef tallow that I render myself, but I dont think it will work for a vinaigrette. Perhaps thats further proof I shouldnt be eating rabbit food. ;-)
olive
Olive oil, lime, salt. That’s it 😀
De Cate! I know that there’s a detrimental system that affects us. Although, How could Latin American countries overpass this situation and try to eat healthier in order to improve their health? It will be very nice if you set up a video for countries like Perú or Chile, or any other one here. I see here seed oils are being used as something uncontrollably unhealthy. Cheers ❤
So valuable thanks a lot to you both !!
I am eating carnivore. Nose to tail...and bone broth. Fruit / avocado / olives / eggs / little lactose-free milk / coffee in the morning / Hunny... never felt better. I got this from CarnicoreMD Paul Saladino
@Ronald Smeman how long have you been doing it?
@@kingzion3032 3 months or so. Before that i eat meat but also plants and carbs, and sugar. I am still experimenting, but this seems to be working very well.
@@Iambadron can you give us more details as to what changed and why you feel more healthy?
@@kingzion3032 The big change in diet is no more sugar (honey raw is oke), No more seed oils..only animal vet. Fewer plants, (read above). Big changes are Energy, mood, confidence (testosterone?). I think many problems people have will magically disappear when they try this...take care
It’s worse with socialized medicine, my taxes are now paying for diabetic supplies, free surgeries, free/subsided meds. So now, not only crazy toxic food, but crazy,metabolically unhealthy street people, attacking people, starting fires due to cognitive impairment! I’ve had numerous medical procedures in my 75 years- in retrospect- all due to diet….I remember in the 60’s, my parents stopping butter, no fat on meat etc.- in about 5 years 1972, my dad died of a heart attack at 48 years of age. I’d like to sue somebody over that.
My point is, in countries with socialized medicine, this ‘parasitic’ grip of ‘the sickness business’ will bankrupt our economy…….Frankly I’m scared !
Bring back the buffalo! Also I’m so lucky to have a carnivore butcher here in Nanaimo🇨🇦, I can get all sorts of grass fed meats…..my latest tasty dish is fried chicken skin, then caramelize an onion, final add liver pieces and salt…yumm!🙏
I cut out seed oils meat Dairy and gluten and I still have back pain
As you go down the bitcoin rabbit hole, its really hard to process how the system is so broken and how nothing is ever done for the peoples greater good. Shocking stuff.
That was fun.
One of my concerns with Carnivore (especially when not including plenty of varying seafood / shellfish & organs) is potential lack of manganese. 🤔
if collateral blood flow steps in when there is a blockage, why do people still have heart attacks?
May want to review the work of Udo Erasmus. Ratio of omega-3 to omega-6.
Love it safe!!!
Is olive oil a seed oil? Is it good to cook with?
olive oil is not a seed oil. It is the healthiest oil to cook with.
So are we saying that oils in seeds and nuts are bad? So would, for instance eating almonds be bad? Please clarify or are we only talking about "seed oil"? Are nuts and seeds different?
Yes nuts are bad. Most people have immune reactions to them, but can still tolerate them. But many people have allergic reactions. But they aren’t good for anyone. Maybe only few times a year.
@@connorjones4893 That's not even true that most people have issues with them lol. Not everyone can handle nuts but many people have no issues with them at all. If you have issues with them don't eat them if you don't then eat them if you want to. People are scared of anything nowdays. Even food coming from nature itself... People need to travel more. From one continent to another people eat differently. Peanuts are a huge part of the diet in Sub Saharian Africa countries, and those countries don't suffer near much from all those chronic diseases than western countries are facing today. Which is why they did not get hit by Covid as much as the Western world. Same in many Asian countries by the way. People should focus on the elephant in the room (sugar, alcohol, processed food, stress) instead of supposed needle in the room.
@@HereDiianas yeah that’s true but I was just saying all people will have an immune responds to eating nuts… because your body sees it as a toxin…. Like most plant foods.
Thanks Saif
Hey Saif, does peanut oil fall into this category of seed oils or this is ok?
Dr Cate recommends peanut oil.
Though Dr Cate recommends peanut oil, she does make the disclaimer that it is higher in PUFAs than the other oils she recommends. Therefore, one must be careful when heating it while cooking.
She covers this near the end of her book, Deep Nutrition (available in audiobook form, btw).
Absolutely, it’s a seed. Not okay.
unrefined peanut oil is fine, commonly mixed with a touch of unrefined sesame oil when finishing dishes
So which is the least harmful deep frying oil?
Beef tallow
Outback Steakhouse fries with this
Is the Problem Seed Oils?
Or is the problem all polyunsaturated fats?
(salmon, avocado, walnuts etc)
It is not clear in the video ...
the problem is the omega6 (Linoleic Acid) quantity, which is too high in seed oils, we wouldn't be able to get this concentrated amount eating whole foods... this fatty acid was not designed by nature to be used as a fuel into our cells, it is used as a signaling molecule and as part of the cells membranes.... having your cell with excess of omega 6 will make them fragile to any kind of stress. when omega6 breaks down, it generates toxic byproducts such as aldehydes, which will react with other cells on a free radical cascade... when this pro oxidant state is too much, the body's antioxidant system is overwhelmed and can't stop the damage... then you got a broken cell, broken mitochondria and a disease... each organ will respond in a way, but the root cause is the same, at the celular level.... I hope this was clarifying... I recomend you to watch this recent summit which was 100% focused on seed oils harms: ruclips.net/channel/UCk1KVcKlqD1T3BvMqJ0n8Fwvideos I also recommend you to watch all content by Tucker Goodrich, Dr. Chris Knobbe and obviously Dr. Cate Shanahan.
If salmon is bad for you, I'm not interested in doing good
largely seed oils themselves because they are refined bleached deoderized, 80% avg fat intake comes from this... salmon and while food sources have polyunsaturated fats that are better protected in the actual structure of the food itself, much less damage unless u just cook them in extremely high heat for some reason.... even the animal fats have some polyunsaturated fats in them, the issue is when the amount far exceeds what our antioxidant defense systems can handle which is what happens with seed oils.... combine that with a dependency upon sugar for energy and your in for a tough ride
Speaking of "climate science", it would be fantastic to get Tony Heller on. I haven't seen anyone better at combating climate change propaganda.
Boring 🥱
Ahh I'm so confused here. I don't know what to believe anymore.
COOL AS A RULE
THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU ARE DOING.... BUT HOW MANY ANIMALS WOULD IT TAKE FOR ALL THE WORLD TO BE EATING RIBEYE ONLY.... NOT POSSIBLE..... CRAZY!
Interesting discussion. A lot of what she says about bypass, and statins is verifiably false though. I’m a cardiologist
please tell us the research I would love to know why it's false.... im asking respectfully not being sarcastic
Prove it, please. That's a bold claim with no substantiation.
Only 30 min in good stuff, when did the three meals a day/ 6 small meals science come in ? some fasting can be very beneficial, two books that were really helpful , last year for me Good Calories Bad Calories and Why We Get Fat author Gary Taubes
Good interview 👍 but dude got way too heavy handed and preachy about carnivore around the 1:20 mark. Not everyone feels great on a ton of red meat. Some people feel sluggish and not at their mental peak, this is how I am.
I thought raw cashews were poisonous! What am I missing here?
Razor , maybe?!?!!?
Unfortunately none of her claims are actually backed by science and data except for a few mice studies she cites in her book.
So the brain is 60% fat. The overwhelming composition of brain fat is what...saturated? No...Omega-3 and Omega-6.
Great duo! I'm eating a salad, tho.....I just LOVE salad, but my son & I will try carnivore modified soon. Thank u!