Archery FAQ: How to start with Thumb Release?

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  • Опубликовано: 2 янв 2018
  • As many asked me and many struggle at the beginning. Don't give up, follow some easy steps and you will soon shoot like Ghengis Khan himself :D
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  • @judddobson4941
    @judddobson4941 2 года назад +80

    I’m an American from Texas, and no one around here has even heard of thumb draw. If it’s not a big fancy compound bow, with the trigger and all the bells and whistles, they don’t care. So I’m proud to be the only historical archer in my community. Learning everything from Armin Hirmer’s videos and RUclips. lol

    • @ArminHirmer
      @ArminHirmer  2 года назад +12

      That’s great. I think I should move to Texas :)

    • @Jiraiyashouse666
      @Jiraiyashouse666 Год назад +9

      I'm just starting the thumb draw journey from instinctive Olympic style...trying to get back to my Mongolian roots. Greetings from San Antonio!

    • @jonnnybravo4092
      @jonnnybravo4092 Год назад

      I second texas. Just picked it up as well and I agree its all bout compound bows. Im a thumb guy.

    • @drivendefense
      @drivendefense 11 месяцев назад

      Virginia here! @arminhirmer impacting people everywhere with his skills and knowledge. ❤

    • @kevinmaughan4290
      @kevinmaughan4290 11 месяцев назад +2

      when you get use to thumb draw, it feels so natural, very hard to go back to 3 finger and arrow on left side of the bow

  • @mailais3403
    @mailais3403 4 года назад +163

    I went to my local club with my horsebow and they have like 80% olympic​ archer and when i used the thumbdraw and khatra the​y looked at me like i'm some sort of alien lol

    • @MiaogisTeas
      @MiaogisTeas 4 года назад +58

      Funny, that's what they look like to me with their sights and cams and fashion accessories. 😅

    • @rafayulhassan4254
      @rafayulhassan4254 4 года назад

      Are you from centrel Asia

    • @Tsizzle-ns8br
      @Tsizzle-ns8br 3 года назад +12

      Lol know the feeling, when I was teen I took my first Samick traditional into my small country town bowshop to get help getting the right arrow setup. Had the bow kinda hidden behind my back as I waded through the mass of hunters with the latest compounds and cams and blah blah....Long story short had alot of confused/judgemental eyes on me and felt myself shrinking till I got up to the counter and the bow "doc" goes "Is that a Samick?? Lemme see that that's a bada** bow" and took it out of my hand lol Immediately everyone got interested in it and I didn't feel so out of place.... going to new places now, I've discovered I still get weird looks, but they usually turn to curiosity and requests to try it if I volunteer explanation.

    • @wilmofosho
      @wilmofosho 3 года назад +7

      @@Tsizzle-ns8br its just peoples insecurity showing, don't sweat it. i was taught you start from the bottom so everyone should know how to shoot a bare bow before they get the bells and whistles, my grandfather woulda chewed me out if just started on cams. He switched to cams when get got 55 with cancer and was shooting for 4 other families on bow season.

    • @BA3676
      @BA3676 3 года назад +15

      @@Tsizzle-ns8br
      Just tell them you were raised by Nomads in a Mongolian Horde. 😎

  • @NUSensei
    @NUSensei 6 лет назад +230

    Already onto it! Great timing, and great video.

  • @gblan
    @gblan 4 года назад +18

    If your eyes are open you're aiming, if they are closed you are not aiming. -Instinctive Archery Simplified

    • @Lost_Hwasal
      @Lost_Hwasal 3 года назад

      Theres a video on youtube of "instinctive" archers shooting at the mark left by a laser pointer in pitch black. None of them could hit anything from 10 yards because they did not have the bow and arrow as a reference point. My point is all archers aim, some do it with sights, some do it with other things.

  • @mrtaffspoon
    @mrtaffspoon 4 года назад +35

    Only £40 for a snake bow here in the UK. That's how I started my journey into thumb release, after watching your videos. Lots of practice later & I am much improved. Thanks Armin & keep up the good work :)

  • @22tanmay
    @22tanmay 6 лет назад +116

    You are a fantastic teacher! Thank you for the fine points

  • @thomasselby3912
    @thomasselby3912 4 года назад +47

    I wish I would have seen this when I was a young lefty in a house full of right handed bows

    • @rosehep3301
      @rosehep3301 4 года назад +2

      Happy to see this as top comment. I just took up archery, and my left handed nephew and niece are interested as well. The starter bow they're using and my barebow are ambidextrous, so I'm learning to do both because I'm interested in archery as "total body" exercise. Nephew has taken to it like a duck to water, but Niece needs more confidence and some tips more specific to her natural tendencies.

    • @visamedic
      @visamedic 4 года назад +1

      Yeah I know. I’m a lefty shooter. ONLY with a bow. Everything else I’m either ambidextrous or right handed with firearms. I just ordered a left handed Sammick Sage. Thinking of swapping it out after I get it now.

    • @TravisTennies
      @TravisTennies 4 года назад +2

      you CHOOSE to be a lefty. ugggg

  • @rayzerot
    @rayzerot 3 года назад +7

    Educational while being oddly soothing and relaxing

  • @dannyharris2091
    @dannyharris2091 3 месяца назад +1

    M8 my name is Danny. I'm a new Artcher. I'm practicing at home in my apartment in Manchester I'm waiting for an opperasion and then I'll be able to get outside. So I watch all your stuff and I think your a grate man..... Teacher. As soon as I get money I'll become a patrent so I can send you the money because you deserve it. You have answered all the questions and I'm sure wen I'm able to shoot over a distance it will all come together. So thanks M8 you are a star. Danny from Manchester

  • @WRMonger1
    @WRMonger1 5 лет назад +21

    I wish that you were somewhere in the US so that I could send my daughter to learn from you. She's training for mounted archery and she needs what you know, what you can teach.

  • @rachaelcain3562
    @rachaelcain3562 2 года назад +7

    Thank you so much for this video Armin, I can't tell you how helpful it's been! I started archery 6 years ago with thumb release then a year in had an instinctive or intuitive as you say, archery lesson where I tried three finger Mediterranean release. I left the club and started shooting in the garden at home. I've now got an opportunity to try horseback archery and so needed to go back to thumb release....I think I was almost dreading the challenge then I watched this and I was so inspired! I am absolutely loving everything about thumb release and shooting from the right. So thank you for your generous and empowering videos, for sharing your profound knowledge and the fun with trampolines, motorbikes, feet and moving around, so inspiring!

  • @martink2875
    @martink2875 3 года назад +6

    Two years of shooting, never would I have known I "shouldn't" knock 90° because I can still shoot accurately, just without the bloody marks after each training :D

  • @mauriciom8430
    @mauriciom8430 6 лет назад +2

    This is how I started to do instinctive shooting on the thumb draw. Thanks for such great tutorial

  • @humanbeing2009
    @humanbeing2009 2 года назад

    Incredible instruction as always. Thank you Armin!

  • @johnfretz1938
    @johnfretz1938 3 года назад

    Thank you for the lessons/tips. I'm glad I came across your channel.

  • @stefansteiner2670
    @stefansteiner2670 5 лет назад

    Very inspiring. Just found your channel yesterday while being at home with the flu and already watched quite a bunch of your videos learning a lot. Need to get out and test some of it soon.

  • @alexanderson5140
    @alexanderson5140 6 лет назад +22

    I’m a huge fan of archery and I love the thumb draw technique on eastern style bows. The hunter/ swat team leader Joel Turner demonstrated this method of shooting on his RUclips channel ShotIQ with modern bows and it looks like a cool challenge for me. Keep up the videos on different bow reviews, shooting techniques and other stuff.

  • @gilanbarona9814
    @gilanbarona9814 4 года назад

    Thanks for this lesson. I have only recently started. Being a 3 finger archer, this takes some getting used to, but this video has helped a great deal. I am grateful.

  • @pallejensen6522
    @pallejensen6522 5 лет назад

    Armin, thank you so much for this introduction! After watching it, I gave thump release a try with my right-handed recurve, switching side. And it felt... right from the first shot. Snake bow is ordered, looking forward to shoot thump released right-handed!
    Thanks for your inspiring videos and cheers to Malta 🍻

  • @kenhouston814
    @kenhouston814 4 года назад

    Excellent video! I've just ordered a horsebow, and this was excellent instruction to start! Thank you for the fantastic content, I'm off to watch more of your videos

  • @arthurrobey4945
    @arthurrobey4945 5 лет назад

    Excellent.
    I was watching closely for the advantages of thumb release.
    Now I know.

  • @steveg8322
    @steveg8322 5 лет назад +1

    Answered a great many questions in a small amount of time, thanks!

  • @MelissaMaverick
    @MelissaMaverick 4 года назад +1

    I so appreciate your tutorial videos. I've picked up a bow 2 months ago to teach myself mounted archery. This video confirms I'm on the right path and now thanks to you I know how to prevent feather burn! No more taping my left thumb to shoot.

  • @maxyong520
    @maxyong520 6 лет назад +5

    Fantastic video, Thank you very much for posting. Your vieos are always a joy to watch.

  • @rajeshkhilari
    @rajeshkhilari 5 лет назад +1

    I liked your explanation of the Horse Bow and Thumb release.

  • @joeyflores8809
    @joeyflores8809 6 лет назад +1

    Also loving the channel found it a couple days ago and have probably watched around 30 different videos already! Learning the different styles of bows and ways to draw them.

  • @jo-annandersen4042
    @jo-annandersen4042 Год назад

    Thank you! I am starting mounted archery and this was VERY helpful.

  • @seeingthepattern
    @seeingthepattern 4 года назад

    What a wonderfully calm delivery. You are an excellent teacher, sir.

  • @GClark-dv4vz
    @GClark-dv4vz Год назад

    Excellent tutorial Armin. I never thought of trying thumb draw and release until now. I couldn't believe how smooth and accurate it is. I'm definitely going to try this method. Thanks again for a great video!!

  • @mikker32
    @mikker32 4 года назад

    I have seen, I know not how many videos and, you Armin are just the best

  • @MagicAmmo
    @MagicAmmo 4 года назад

    Excellent video - helped a lot since I just started out using this technique and needed some help with it. The way you teach is excellent and very clear.

  • @Jazzman-bj9fq
    @Jazzman-bj9fq 6 лет назад +1

    Wow, such a simple approach... I would think that this would have been similar to how archers of hundreds of years ago would have learned. Thanks for posting!

  • @mepotiranul
    @mepotiranul 4 года назад

    Finally the explanation that i need, Thank you Armin

  • @roflswamp6
    @roflswamp6 5 лет назад +1

    This video is amazing I was pulling too much for a beginner and have a very light bow and pulling less immediately gave me better groups thank you for your teaching it is great!!

  • @MichaelJones-ti9fx
    @MichaelJones-ti9fx Год назад

    Thank you for the video. I look forward to trying this method.

  • @devinderkumar8738
    @devinderkumar8738 4 года назад +4

    Great teacher.... Thanks a lot... May God bless you with good health prosperity and peace and love...

  • @valentinsignargout4744
    @valentinsignargout4744 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for the tips. I just bought my first "horsebow" today, a 25# laminated bow. Pretty happy with this, it will allow me practising my Mediterranean release without the full 50# of my "hunting" recurve, and of course start having fun with thumb release!
    I have to say it's both frustrating and pretty fun at the same time having to re-learn everything!
    Anyways, your videos played a big part in me coming back to archery after years without shooting, and now wanting to experiment with this new kind of bows!
    Cheers

  • @mkayoldschool
    @mkayoldschool 5 лет назад +2

    Hi Armin...i'm from Malaysia...great teacher you are.....so far your methods and tips are the only things works for me...thank you

  • @gwenwier7187
    @gwenwier7187 4 года назад

    I cannot thank you enough for this VERY informative and helpful post. I have only just picked up a Turkish Horseback bow. Of course, I have always had a shelfed bow and this instruction allowed the knowledge of focusing either a little left or a little right, depending on which hand I am using. Thank you ever so much.

  • @dogstarstudios718
    @dogstarstudios718 6 месяцев назад

    Fantastic video Armin! Thank you for such a great teaching aide!

  • @martynbealing79
    @martynbealing79 5 лет назад +9

    I started with a 50lb bow and it's been a little hard but I got used to it. I would not have started with it out of choice but I knew nothing about archery when I bought it. I also bought a thumb ring and it works great. Thanks for your great instructional videos. Very helpful 😁

    • @kristineschilling6917
      @kristineschilling6917 4 года назад +2

      yeah, my first bow is a mongolian 40#. I dont regret it, but knowing a cheaper light weight to start would have been good.

  • @ThePirhi
    @ThePirhi 6 лет назад +1

    really nice video, I'm looking forward to try this, as soon as weather allows

  • @humblebug4526
    @humblebug4526 6 лет назад +11

    Wish this video existed when I learnt how to shoot lol. Would have helped me a bunch. Lucky newbies. ;)

  • @rayjohn3946
    @rayjohn3946 3 года назад

    Thank you very much for this video Sir. Been looking for some solid information and found it here! Great video! Thanks again!

  • @salahuddincostaschreiner4869
    @salahuddincostaschreiner4869 3 года назад +1

    Thanks a lot, Arnim. I was behind it, to know about this technique, since a Korean 60 pounds bow was gifted to me, many years ago!
    I look forward to find out about that thumb ring.
    Best regards from another Mediterranean island!

  • @miguelveratraditionalarche9374
    @miguelveratraditionalarche9374 5 лет назад +1

    Mr. Armin Thank you for this instructional video, it will help me a lot. Now to start my path Practice !!!

  • @l.ashleygarr6537
    @l.ashleygarr6537 4 года назад +4

    Thank you so much. I just ordered my first recurve bow (right hand) and have been trying to decide how shoot it and this video helped me make a the decision. I think I’ll try 3 fingers under. Now I gotta decide glove or tab. I love your videos. Wish I could attend your school.

  • @jaredsmith474
    @jaredsmith474 5 лет назад +2

    Thank you for this! I just returned from archery range after my 35# horsebow arrived. My next visit to range I will start this training. Normally I shoot mediterranean 45# recurve with fairly good groups at 6meters. When I tried horsebow with thumb-release at 6m at full draw, I was shooting 2m to the right. I will be following this advice my next visit. :)

  • @robertocatrone715
    @robertocatrone715 3 года назад

    Outstanding instructive video. You're a very good instructor. Thank you

  • @stevedecou2248
    @stevedecou2248 2 года назад

    Best explanation of thumb release that i have seen - well done. Inspires me to set up my range and do it!

  • @maskcollector6949
    @maskcollector6949 3 года назад +1

    The thumb not squishing the arrow part was extremely helpful, thanks! Seems like practicing half-draws overlaps a lot with Lars Andersson's style of shooting, incidentally.

  • @GardenMyselfHappy
    @GardenMyselfHappy 5 месяцев назад

    Great demonstration and clear instruction.

  • @susanscandles
    @susanscandles 4 года назад +1

    Great teaching and reinforcing technique. Thank you.

  • @christophercosher1495
    @christophercosher1495 2 года назад

    I knew a few guys back in Alaska who put cord loops on the strings of their western style recurves so they could use thumb rings to shoot off of the shelf on the right of the bow. It worked really well for them.

  • @shadowrfox
    @shadowrfox 5 лет назад +1

    Wish I could have found your videos when I first started archery. You would have save me time on a lot of things I learned via trial and error.

    • @ArminHirmer
      @ArminHirmer  5 лет назад +2

      when the student is ready, the teacher will appear :D

  • @bluebirdaz1
    @bluebirdaz1 6 лет назад +1

    Wow! The best archery help I've ever seen. Love your teaching Armin!
    Keep up the amazing work!!!

  • @zijtsel1
    @zijtsel1 5 лет назад +1

    Just started with thumb release last week ago with after seeing the videos.. It so much fun.. Keep up the good work with the videos

    • @ArminHirmer
      @ArminHirmer  5 лет назад

      thank you ver much. keep on shooting :D

  • @Elementaldomain
    @Elementaldomain 5 лет назад +2

    So the Turk Alps used the thumb ring as a guide. This makes sense, a useful tool for shooting from horseback. Thank you for the video, and giving us a whole tutorial instead of one minute like so many do.

  • @douglasfrancis4158
    @douglasfrancis4158 2 года назад

    Love this guy. Great video. Will give it a shot. Was thinking i wouldn't be able to do it w/o a thumb ring.

  • @kristineschilling6917
    @kristineschilling6917 4 года назад +1

    oi! I was taught thumb draw with it still to the knuckle instead of the thumb! No wonder I was having so many issues! Thank you!

  • @aratanatar
    @aratanatar 6 лет назад +1

    Thank you much for this really easy to follow instructions !

  • @josephad9242
    @josephad9242 3 года назад

    Such an excellent teacher!

  • @berndvonhosslin9062
    @berndvonhosslin9062 5 лет назад +1

    Hi Armin, thank you for your great videos, just getting started with thumb release, having lots of fun and blood blisters on my thumb....
    Still trying to find right spined arrows, that don't smack against the side window of my bow...
    Greetings from bavaria, Bernd

  • @visamedic
    @visamedic 4 года назад +3

    I know you’re like 3-5 yards away, but your grouping is awesome for just messing around. I use to shoot tournaments with my compounds back in the 90’s. I got two “Robin Hood’s”, one accidentally at 60-70 yards, the other, after probably 50 shots, at 20. Even small game hunting, my best shots were taken on the fly at 15-30 yards, not even thinking about the yardage. Always shot worse when I was fixed on bullseye only.

  • @michaelshapiro1543
    @michaelshapiro1543 5 лет назад +2

    THANK YOU for the encouragement & clear, relaxed explanations. Enjoyed shooting as a boy. Interested again as a retiree. Glad I found your channel.

    • @ArminHirmer
      @ArminHirmer  5 лет назад

      welcome and thanks for watching

  • @janedagger
    @janedagger 5 лет назад +1

    I have learned so much and in only one video. You sir, are generous and most awesome. *bow* Thank you.

  • @cushionface09
    @cushionface09 3 года назад +1

    Very nicely done. Thx for the helpful instruction.

  • @mmmarv
    @mmmarv 2 года назад

    Very well explained. Thank you for sharing your wisdom! 😎👍

  • @harrysainsbury909
    @harrysainsbury909 Год назад

    Great video I can't wait to try this.

  • @Seofthwa
    @Seofthwa 5 лет назад +1

    Great video, I always wanted to learn the thumb draw method. Thanks.

  • @roberta.5593
    @roberta.5593 2 года назад

    Super erklärt 👍🏻 Da ich mich seeeeehr für das Schiessen mit einem Reiterbogen interessiere hat mir Dein Video sehr geholfen !

  • @marktaskerlyngfarm7596
    @marktaskerlyngfarm7596 2 года назад

    Thank you so much for this explanation. Such a great tutorial. 🙏🌞

  • @Cogitovision
    @Cogitovision 2 года назад

    Thanks for doing this video. My thumb draw journey has already demotivated me several times, but I might try it again.

    • @ArminHirmer
      @ArminHirmer  2 года назад +2

      Giving up is not an option hehe

  • @djokicmetamora
    @djokicmetamora 5 лет назад

    Thank you for the inspiration and great information , from Detroit.

  • @gellydesigns
    @gellydesigns Год назад

    I really like your videos. I am going to get a low poundage hopes bow and try this. Thanks for making this.

  • @kristiangustafson4130
    @kristiangustafson4130 4 года назад +1

    I think I am a pretty good archer. After this I realise it's a learning journey for everyone. Now out to practice BETTER

  • @BGH1961
    @BGH1961 Месяц назад

    I tried thumb release last summer and the result was... really, spectacularly awful. Yesterday, I did as you said, and my arrows are dead on target and fly straight.
    Thank you so much for the clear explanation and demonstration.

  • @rondumontier1187
    @rondumontier1187 5 лет назад +1

    Just ordered a mongolian bow found on your site. I plan to shoot w/ thumb.
    Great video

  • @SamUrai-gl1cy
    @SamUrai-gl1cy 3 года назад

    You‘re an excellent instructor

  • @rooroo9216
    @rooroo9216 3 года назад +6

    I’ve just gotten into archery since about late 2019 with the Samick Sage and Christmas 2020 I got a new horsebow, my first traditional bow. I’ve started doing the thumb draw recently but I also got a thumb ring because 60lbs of pressure is a lot to put on just my thumb alone! I will definitely try that half draw method though, usually when I get tired I just go back to the western way of doing it. The thing I also struggle with is the actual sight picture. Like with the western method I tend to aim off my knuckle and I’m still doing fairly close targets, with the anchor point just literally under my eye. It’s three fingers under, not Mediterranean so I can anchor it as close to my eye as I can, but with the thumb draw it’s like somewhere at the 10 o’ clock position. So I can kind of see the elevation of the shot but I’m still struggling with the sight picture, I think I have the release down though, I have to kind of bob the bow to the side like you did there on the release.^^

  • @andrirabiansyah7343
    @andrirabiansyah7343 4 года назад

    i watched many of your videos.. your explanation is good,, easy to understand... subscribed :D

  • @lucianeugen3737
    @lucianeugen3737 4 года назад

    So informative and useful! Thank you!

  • @Hutchie2112
    @Hutchie2112 6 лет назад +1

    Thank you for the most timely instruction video ever. Weather and soft thumb permitting, I'll be putting this into practice over the next few days.

    • @ArminHirmer
      @ArminHirmer  6 лет назад +1

      great and do a video about it :)

    • @Hutchie2112
      @Hutchie2112 6 лет назад

      Aye, definitely. I've a little short box arrived from Alibow China today too, not much longer than an arrow, not opened it yet, but suffice to say, other than for a wee try, I will ONLY be using thumb draw/release with it :)

    • @ArminHirmer
      @ArminHirmer  6 лет назад

      :D enjoy

  • @mpccenturion
    @mpccenturion 5 лет назад +1

    Thank you. I started at a local club. In short order, I managed to find a small recurve. It was 48 lbs. I drew 31 - 32 inches, so I was higher. I must admit, that I should have continued with a 30# bow. It would have been easier. That was 1990. I still have a bow, and plan to give this technique a try. It is about learning the bow. Like ladies, they take a soft touch.

  • @fredmecoy6583
    @fredmecoy6583 3 года назад

    Great skills! Thank you for this.

  • @simonsas1492
    @simonsas1492 5 лет назад

    Just waiting for my bow to arrive . thanx for a great tutorial *o*

  • @gloriaimang8027
    @gloriaimang8027 4 года назад

    thank you so much for this video,learned alot and im on fire to practice more with your tips,
    thank you
    thank you
    THANK YOU!!!!!

  • @AnthonyDibiaseIdeas
    @AnthonyDibiaseIdeas 2 года назад

    Thank you. I'm going to try the thumb and middle finger release.

  • @charleshanbury4062
    @charleshanbury4062 11 месяцев назад

    Snake bow is probably my most recommended bow when asked what bow should I buy first there cheap and pretty much indestructible great to give kid and adults their first archery experience

  • @georgegeeseman6652
    @georgegeeseman6652 3 года назад

    Completely foreign to me and fascinating. Great instruction

  • @vladimirpetrov1766
    @vladimirpetrov1766 5 лет назад +1

    Thank you very much. Good lesson.

  • @eqlzr2
    @eqlzr2 5 лет назад

    Your videos are pretty excellent. I had to look up Malta, though. Thx.

  • @hatsuunjindo
    @hatsuunjindo 5 лет назад

    Lovely video. Thanks!

  • @dukeitsk9624
    @dukeitsk9624 Год назад

    Awesome you make it look so easy 😀

  • @dermotshaw5722
    @dermotshaw5722 2 года назад

    I have a Korean war bow, fiberglass, it's a bit too powerful for me at the moment, I'm gonna buy a 25 pounder as you recommended and practice this. Great video as always Armin 👍

  • @ydocc3374
    @ydocc3374 3 года назад

    You are my teacher. Thanks!

  • @nair.127
    @nair.127 6 лет назад +1

    "all manlyhood aside"
    It's amazing the desire to shoot
    Heavy bows just never goes away.
    Cheers

  • @bayuyudhasaputra3169
    @bayuyudhasaputra3169 4 года назад

    Great explaination...
    Thank's master...
    I'm going to try it at home...

  • @jerrycollins4893
    @jerrycollins4893 3 года назад

    Great video as usual!..I just ordered a Laminated Pearwood ‘Goldilocks’ bow from Canyon thanks to your review...I mentioned your influence in that purchase...Looking forward to receiving it in mid June or so... Thanks again..

  • @dreadsta001
    @dreadsta001 5 лет назад +2

    9:44 Aiii La Madona :D just kidding. Great teacher!