7 Min Friday: Thumb Release Beginners Issues and how to fix them
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- Опубликовано: 18 окт 2018
- Here are a few things I saw with beginners. I hope it is helpful for some of you. Keep in mind, it is just my way to deal with it, there are sure more ways to do.
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I've been shooting horse bow diligently for over a year. Even though I've gotten better I still couldn't account for some of the inconsistencies in my release and I've racked my brain and body trying to remedy it. You fixed my problem in 7 minutes. Vielen dank Armin!
I'm brand new to archery and have just discovered your channel. I really appreciate your knowledge and your videos are really easy to watch.
Thanks! This helped! Much Respect!
Me too
I just started trying the thumb release with my horse bow and it is so much better. However, since I'm so new at this my thumb hurts and I have to switch back for a few shots. This video is so helpful, thanks!
Always a good idea to come back to some older videos, specially when I have some bad days with constant bad shooting and want to correct my style or check what I might do wrong. This one - again - made me realize what the problem was with my release: tried a thumb draw with my middle finger locking my thumb while the index finger was pointing out, resting on the arrow for support. My middle finger was loose, pointing downwards and was crossing the string and my wrist wasn't straight. So yeah, thanks again, as usual 👍
Thanks for your videos my dude, i love your channel and find them super helpful
Thank you so much for taking the time to make this video!!!
Nice video Mr Armin. I believe the way you approach and explain archery’s topics is excellent ! thank you for the time and your effort
Thanks for your videos and demonstrations. I'm new to Archery and have just started learning about thumb release! Very different from what I'm used to.. Your videos are very helpful and encouraging :) keep up the Great work !
Your best and most important video on this channel, and the best and complete one there is on RUclips about thumb release.
Your talent to teach is a gift.
As always, thank you. Great teaching, beautiful bow and nice neck knife.
Much to do for me :)! Thank you Armin!
Thank you Sir - You have a beautiful way of transmitting your knowledge and I am grateful to you for sharing the wisdom of your experience - much love 🌞
Thank you for your work. You are great teacher.
Once again, Thank you Mr. Armin for another great video! ...I'm going to pick up my old horsebow and practice thumb draw.
Thank you sir! I enjoy so much your tutorials!
Thanks for this video I think it will help me a lot. It's a long way from three fingers to thumb, but I will do my best to achieve it. I saw a video of a disciple of you and it opened me more the desire to learn. Again thanks for your time to make these videos so splendid and informative.
Thanks, now i know what i will try to change in my technique during next week. :D
Great video. I'm going to give thumb release a try. Thanks!
I’m learning so much from you man. No fluff. Just pure technique.
You’re awesome. Cheers.
This is great, Wish i had found this video years back when i tried thumb release but gave up. Your video makes it so clear. Thank you
You're videos are very informative. Thanks.
Thanks for the insides. Nicely done video. With the fixed depth of field no detail is lost.
So glad I came across this video, I have plates on both sides of my forearm, and unable to turn my hand properly for three finger pull, but was unaware of the thumb pull, ....yes I'm very new to the sport, I thought I was going to have to learn with my non dominant side, thanks for this video and the others, they have been very helpful.
Thanks for the video! Great pointers.
Very informative, I still need a lot of practice but I’m learning thank you.
I really appreciate all your videos it's like having a personal trainer.
This video can help me a lot. I am one bend the arm wrist. I'm going to practice thanks.
Thank you for your insight. I have the worst thumb draw release you've ever seen. I believe this lesson will help
Das war sehr hilfreich, danke dir Armin!
Love your channel, you deffinetley deserve a bigger audience! Thank you for your videos!
better the right audience :D thank you for watching
Hahahaha, Ive nearly been doing it All Wrong!
Great pointers, a Refresher Course.
Thanks Armi.
This is probably more help than anything else for me
Un grand merci Armin pour cette video très utile pour moi 🙏😊🙏
Meilleurs voeux pour 2019!!!🍾💥🌞🍰🏹
Richard
Proper techniques equals best result another great video. You are my first bow and arrow 🏹 teacher.
Great video. Thanks Armin! 👍🏼👏🏼🏹
THANK YOU! This info made a huge difference on my accuracy!
Great video! I still force my release back and that's awful. Reason: lack of frequent practice and heavier poundages of my bows, thus 'struggling'. Started with 40lbs many years ago and still didn't correct my release. Would be also good for beginners to know they should start with lighter bow than 40lbs because difficult to correct imperfections later, also it should be done with coach . Cheers Armin and thank you for the tips!
Just wanted to say thanks for all your videos. Especially thanks for videos introducing me to the thumb draw.
I had surgery for long term nerve damage to my draw arm about 5 years ago, the doctor cut from palm of my hand up to almost my shoulder joint in an attempt to find and redirect some nerves.
Supposedly the surgery was to help with the nerve damage by putting the nerve in a new position but still, 5 years after the surgery I can still not draw a bow in any Western style without the substantial discomfort of feeling like I'm being electrically shocked from elbow to fingers....
Then, I saw one of your videos and tried to draw my 90 pound long bow with thumb draw a few times... Suprise, no pain at all!
I have been hooked on thumb draw and your channel ever since.
I just received my first Turkish Bow in 45# Today... with no thumb ring, I still have no problem pulling and holding a thumb draw!
I am very happy to have found your channel and it has not only allowed me to reopen my hobby of archery but also opened up a whole new aspect of it as well.
Thanks again, much appreciated.
dont you have pain without ring or guard? i just draw 35# horsebow with bare thumb and its hurt
@Armin Hirmer. I just got a mongolian bow to learn how to shoot traditionally. It is a light draw bow to learn form as your video taught. Thanks for this video on how to troubleshoot thumb release.
Thank you so much Armin for this and all your videos...I'm not new to trad bows at all yet am to my new love "horse bows".. been having a problem on thumb draw yet after this video I've found out where all my problems were.. thank you...also coming from shooting 55# plus recurves I purchased a 30# Tatar bow for learning thumb draw and it sure has improved my abilities.
Thank you, this is a real lesson.
Excellent video to be able to continue fixing the release. Thank you Mr. Armin for taking your valuable time and teaching us with such determination.🎯✌
learning much from you, thank you!
Thank you I have been trying to learn how to the draw ,I was pinching the string instead of rapping my finger around my thum thank you for showing me Mark
Thanks alot for your info.... iam gonna start practicing with this guidance....👍👍👍
Very informational. Thank you
You are truly a great instructor. You teach simplistically and precisely. Always short videos that go a long way in education
Thank you
Rewatching this while thinking about something. I recently only discovered that how you shoot depends on how much you press the arrow to the bow. Something I was unaware of previously. 😁
Really nice video Armin, very clear explanations... and last but not least, beautiful image due to your (new?) camera.
new but used :D
Thank you Armin
Great video - thank you!
Thank you for teaching so we’ll.
Thanks for the information I appreciate you sharing
Just picked up a snake bow from my local archery shop. Excited to finally begin my thumb release journey!
wohoo, fan fun and enjoy your journey
Your channel is excellent and I love it. Happy new sub here.
Thanks coach.. i am your faraway student.. From indonesia
awesome video man, loved it
It all made sense once you explained the Phoenix eye - thank you!
You are the Mr Myagi of archery for me So much great explain and nice.
Wax on wax off :) merci
An dieser Stelle möchte ich mich mal für Deine informativen Videos bedanken.
Man findet ja vieles bei RUclips, aber es gibt nur zwei Leute, bei denen ich wirklich viel übers Bogenschießen gelernt habe.
Der eine ist NUSensei, der andere bist Du.
Herzlichen Dank noch einmal dafür.
Ich danke Dir
Nice, very useful.
Why is it that u explain stuff better than books that I have read. I mean the way u explain stuff is totally incredible. Your a true master
Thank you
I waa recommended to your channel and now i can see why. You're very informative. I've just started shooting horse bow and I'm having two issues I'm not sure how to fix.
First issue is if I don't use a thumb guard, when I release, my thumb starts to hurt pretty bad I assume from all the pressure being shoved to the tip of my thumb. Is there a way to fix this or do you just get used to it?
Second issue is even with feather fletchings and heat shrink on the tip of my fletching I'm still cutting up my hand pretty badly. I've noticed that sometimes when I release, the fletchings don't seem to touch my hand at all and those actually tend to be my more accurate shots, I just have not the slightest clue what I'm doing differently on those shots to make it release differently. I don't really want to shoot with a glove or thumb guard because I to feel what I'm touching/doing, so I guess my second question is how can I release without shredding my hand?
Very helpful!
Thank you sir
Thank you.
Great video, i really like your new camera, its much better quality than before :) these videos are great help, but I have one problem while trying thumb release. I never know where to “put“ my bow hand, how to “aim“ basically (hope it makes any sence).
makes sense. I did a video about how to start thumb release, there I explain it - more or less. maybe it helps. Thanks for watching
Thank you Armin, I’m a beginner to traditional archery. I have a compound bow that is so heavy to draw I gave it up . I’m 6’2” and after watching most of your reviews, I’m considering getting the long version of the Manchu Yarha from Ali bow. It looks like a great place to start. Thank you for your videos, I have learned so much from you already, and can’t wait to get back into archery 🏹 🙏
Enjoy :)
its been a years since ive started thumb release, i watched this video so many time just to keep on track what to do what not
Good boy :)
Very helpful for us beginners!
Hello, Armin, great videos! I love your channel!
One question about thumb release:
My name is André and I'm an amateur archer, I've only practiced kyudo for some months while I was in Japan. Now I have a Turkish bow and, to be honest, since the only way I learned to release was the one I was taught in Japan, I am using it now.
The question is that I had two teachers who taught me different methods of releasing an arrow: one was like you were saying, just letting the string go and the other was to actually release the arrow using the left arm, the arm holding the bow, by pushing the bow towards the target and then making the string naturally release from the fingers holding the string.
As far as I could tell from your other videos, the Turkish - or Arabic - name of that movement is KHATRA.
Is that correct?
I think that I can get much more accuracy by using the khatra, releasing the string by moving the left arm (I'm right handed) instead of just let the string go. Intellectually, just letting string go would sound more natural, but, for some reason that I still do not understand well physically, using khatra is way more accurate!
Could you be so kind and make a video about those different techniques together, comparing pros and cons?
Thank you so much in advance!
Cheers from Brazil!
Wow thank you very much
Thank you! Your videos are extremely educational and help full, I'm a self tought archer with a few tips along the way. I would love to ask you to pick apart my form so I review an impove. Reguardless I utilize your knowledge of archery to study an continue the Archers tradition a big thank you very much!
Thank you
Merci !
Hi Armin, I've recently bought a Mongolian horsemans bow, about 58" long and 29" arrows. It still has the string for packing and transit on and wondered how to string a bow by watching videos like yours. That's how I found you and have seen a couple so far but will watch your channel from now on because the way you teach makes it very easy to follow. I'm right handed but have always held the bow in my right hand. I have tried with the left hand but find it awkward. I also would fist fight south paw, could this be why I shoot arrows left handed? Thanks again for your patience in showing us beginners how to be an archer correctly.
Thanks
this is really helpful.
Perfekt, super💪👍🏹
My thumb is always bruising until i saw this video, thank you
It's not to late for you Armin, with some practice , you could get good at this.
What a pretty necklace you have on today. 😂
Thanks!!!
Have to try
Thumb release changed my life.
great info. thank you. :)
wusste gar nicht, dass du n channel hast! thumbs up!
Hehe
After watching this video, a light bulb appeared over my head ;)
- Thank You Again, Sir.
hehe nice
Thank you Master :-)
thanks
Big thanks to your channel: your videos inspired me to try out thumb draw. After more than one year of shooting mediterranean feels fun and refreshing. And a bit painful, for now :)
Dont quite get it: why rotate right wrist upon release?
Hehe thank you
I've been a longbow archer for some years now using a right handed Mediterranean draw on a 50lb bow and recently gifted myself a 15lb 'horsebow' as a trainer. I tried the thumb release and draw on the right of the bow for the first time this morning, shot 50 arrows without a thumb ring, and shot the last 20 whilst holding two more arrows in my draw hand, AND hit the target every time...a feat i thought only possible in films, and therefore kind of fantastical. Suddenly I have a whole new world of archery before me! Ordered a leather thumb ring ;-) . Thanks, Armin.
Hello. What thumb ring did you get and where? I've started thumb release with the snake bow last year and love it.
Kevin Maughan I bought something very cheap on Amazon, used it for one day and threw it in the bin. I have since ordered an Alibow “Shallow Hook” but it has a two month lead time, so just skin to string at the moment.
I'm the same. Trying to build up the skin on my thumb. It was fine on the snake bow but I got the tar tar fibreglass bow from alibow a couple of weeks ago in 30 pound draw and my thumb is very sore now. Just thought a leather thumb ring might help
Great tips
I like your videos, they are very informative and I love the neck knife (where did you get it?)
It's a boeker. But I got it from AliExpress :)
Always held the arrow with the thumb grip never had a problem with accuracy or penetration
That is awesome!!
Thank you
This stuff is helpful if you're learning mostly on your own like me (In my entire country, there are very few thumbring shooters, let alone trainers/proper coaches) I really often make the mistake of 'forcing' the shot and also of keeping the hand level. The bit about the index finger being what takes the pressure really made something 'click' for me, also keeping the thumb 'down' will probably solve some issues with arrow flight I've been having. As always thanks for the great advice, good shooting to you!
where do you live? thanks for watching and your kind words
I live in the Netherlands, specifically in the middle/center of it. I have only ever heard of other thumb shooters, never actually seen them shoot, only on the internet. There is a great guide to Manchu Archery/history, you might know it's called 'Fe-Doro Manchu Archery'. This is made by Peter Dekker, who I think is Dutch, but that's about it as far as I know.
of course I know Peter Dekker. We might organise a thumb release workshop in the Netherlands beginning of next year :D
Wow that would be awesome, just for advice about thumb draw, this would be ideal. Thanks a bunch in advance, wouldn't want to miss it!
Master!
Thanks for this great video. Which bow are you using there please?
thank you. short turkish bow by Alibow
Please can you do a video on how to teach beginners about aiming with thumb draw?
If you want an even cleaner release ;) Do not use the index finger to hold the lock closed.
Instead the strength of the lock should come from pressing the tip of the thumb onto the knuckle of the clenched middle finger. The index finger then simply sits on the already formed lock with no tension.
The rest of your info is good tho :)
That's how I personally shoot :)
The biggest problem I have is when I release I bruise my thumb. I don't know whether its my draw weight or technique