Thumb Shooting For Beginners
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- Опубликовано: 30 июл 2024
- In this video I go over the basics for new thumb shooters. These are the things I did wrong at the beginning and it took a while to unlearn the bad habbits. Anyway drop a like, or comment if you have any questions.
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0:00 Introduction
0:07 EQUIPMENT
1:14 STRING YOUR BOW
3:00 LOW POUNDAGE BOW
3:43 THUMB RING
9:15 LOADING THE ARROW
13:44 DISTANCE TO TARGET
14:50 CORRECT STANCE
15:44 BOW ARM AND
19:26 RELEASE
20:51 ALL THE STEPS 
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This should be a compulsory first lesson for just about any style of archery, clear, concise, brilliant
I have watched many videos on thumb ring use and this does a superb job of reviewing and demonstrating the entire process. Many thanks for your fine work.
Excellent explanation! Thanks. I just recently got into traditional archery, I've been shooting modern Barebow and now I'm waiting for my Turkish bow to arrive. Many things are the same but that thumb release is very different than the three finger release I'm used to, I will have to get used to that when I'm shooting with my traditional bow.
This is a great tutorial: clear, concise and comprehensive. Well done!
Thank you.
Hey,i've jusr ordered my first horsebow..Korean..I've tried a friends horsebow to practice..I've learned a lot from this video..Thanks so much..Greetings from the U.K.
Top video. One of the best I've seen for learning thumb release. Bravo!
Thank you.
Best beginners thumb shooting ive ever seen, thank you.
I'm always picking up bad habits, so this is great to reiterate the good habits back in, cheers mate.
This is the best video I've seen. I'm totally new to Asiatic bows and thumb shooting. In fact, I haven't even received my bow and thumb ring yet. But, I've been watching a LOT of videos on the subject. And this one does a great job of breaking it all down and giving important tips for each aspect of this form of archery. Really, really good job! This should be the first video anyone with an interest in learning thumb shooting should watch. There is other information available of course, but this one covers all the basics in detail and in a well thought out order. Thanks for putting this together!
Hell ye sort of wanted a vid like this
Great video, I wish I had seen this a few years ago, the grip position advice would have been very useful.
When you are in the preparation phase, you lower your shoulders but when it comes to drawing phase, your bow shoulders are hunched up especially when watching from behind. You should raise your arms slightly and lean forward to redirect the counterforce of the bow towards your lower back muscles.
Good to know thank you.
This video deserves a lot more likes. I used to teach archery and was an archer marshal / judge at interstate events. This video is one of the best I have seen both in technique and in teaching style. Now mind you-- I am not a thumb shooter and am not really a fan of it, but plan on practicing it a bit more just for the experience. But every step presented in this video is valid-- and it's presented in a clear, logical, easy-to-understand manner. I appreciated how near the end you say "Do what works for you" because yes, different styles work for different people due to different body shapes and strengths.
Two things I do differently than in the video (and are widely practiced in the archery field): 1) When I take my stance, I start out with my feet side by side and spread as shown in the video, but then step back 1/2 step with my left foot and turn that foot 45 degrees outward. This provides for a more stable, open stance that still allows the upper body to rotate at the hips in any manner desirable. But it does provide extra stability for the feet. 2) I never draw the bow with my right elbow upward. Instead I pull straight back like a piston. This keeps the arm constantly aligned with the arrow and does not alter the position of the back muscles as you line up for your shot.
What's shown in the video on these two things is not wrong-- it's just different. Again, people should choose what works for them. Some people (with lighter more brittle bones) can't use a thumb release at all. If you feel pain (as mentioned in the video) and that pain continues and even lasts for 2 or 3 days, you may need to use the standard 3-finger method and shoot with the arrow on the opposite side of the bow (Mediterranean / Olympic style). I VERY MUCH AGREE with the concept of starting with a light weight bow (20 or 25 lbs is fine)... and even then allow 30 seconds between each shot to allow your muscles to relax and so you don't tear out muscles, tendons, ligaments or even shoulders. (Ask experienced archers how many people they know who have torn out their shoulders or back from shooting too fast.) There's no hurry. Part of the art of archery is learning patience and focusing one's mind on the target, stance, and what you're about to do.
Archery isn't just pulling a bow string and letting the arrow fly. It is very much getting your mind in phase with exactly what your body is going to do. As is very clearly shown in the video, that means every step of the process, including holding the bow, stance, stringing the arrow, hand grips, drawing, and proper release. The idea is to develop those skills so that they become consistent and automatic. This will take time... perhaps months... and that learning continues for years. It is like practicing a musical instrument; it takes some time for the body and mind to coordinate properly.
Oh wow appreciate the comment. Thank you so much.
@@TakalBrothers Truly... one of the best archery videos I've seen. Very well presented and balanced. Keep up the good work. You're a natural instructor. : )
Mashallah, this should have been the very first video I ever watched on thumb release technique. Very patient and through explanation, I've favorited this video to use as a reference in the future. Now to get a metal thumb ring and a decent horse bow...☝🏾🏹
Jzk brother.
Great tutorial my friend! I've watched some of your first videos on learning asiatic archery, you've progressed greatly! Everything you've said is spot on. Hopefully people will listen to your advice! Would love to see some more from you and your brother!
Great video! I am learning thumb draw and this is best how to video i have seen on youtube, and i have seen a lot! Keep up the good work (ps subscribed)
Appreciate it and thank you for the sub
Merci, votre vidéo est une des meilleures pour initier les débutants à ce style de tir : thumb- draw, trés claire, simple , elle devrait me permettre de progresser.
trés bonnes explications, je m'abonne🏹
de rien.
Nice Video. Well explained. I tought myself thumbdraw by books and Internet. Videos like this are helpfull to perfect the own style because everyone does things similar but not exakt the same. Keep up with this kind of videos. Best regards from Germany
Michael
Liked. Subscribed. Awesome.
Loved this! Would be interesting to get you guys' insight on aiming methods!
Hi Tex. Aiming is a very subjective thing. Some people like to aim from sheer instinct / reflex (whatever you want to call it). Others use the tip of their arrow as a "sight". Still others place colored ink or marker dots on their bows to shoot at different distances. No matter which method you choose, what is VERY important is finding your anchor point and maintaining that precise draw length every time. If you draw the arrow even 1/2 inch longer or shorter between shots, the difference can transfer significantly on the target. The idea is to draw the arrow the exact same distance and anchor it at the same spot every. single. time. Consistency of draw is most important on aiming. Beyond that, most archers will learn their preferred method of aiming as time goes along. Personally, my preference of aiming is just shoot a lot of arrows, watch where they land, and don't get in a rush. Sort of take a "back seat" and let your brain do its job, absorbing every shot you take. Then one day you'll go out and hit the target every time, because your brain has finally figured out what you're doing and how to do it.
This method is why I shoot a Tatar recurve instead of a Compound bow. The FUN that comes from traditional archery is letting the arrow fly and knowing that wherever it lands, it was your personal skill that did it. : )
(AF Archery on Amazon makes a fantastic Tatar bow for about $130. I've no association with the company; it's simply one of the best bows I've ever shot.)
Excellent lesson please make a lesson how to aim
All the best
Great video mate , I'll definitely be watching this many times over as I learn , thanks
Thanks for this Video. In Germany thumbdraw is not very popular and i want to learn this in the next time.
No problem. You can always aks us questions if you want 👌🏽.
Which gloves are you using? For your left Hand? Can i choose ervery one i want or should it be a thin one? I think its should be thin as possible?
Great video! Very informative. Thank you!
Excellent video! Thanks for breaking everything down. I appreciate you!
Nice and easy to understand for beginners. Thank you 🙏
Very nice explanation! Thanks!
Great instructional video. You've touched on every important aspect...
Great job 👍🏻🙏🏻🙇🏻♂️
That is a really lovely bow.
Thank you. Its my main bow. 73lbs Saluki Tartar Bow.
Very good and complete introduction, not only to beginners. 🙏
Bless you Brother!
The anchor point on this style of archery is way further back unlike recurve which is to the face right under the eye. Your release and shot is extremely quiet
The draw length/anchor depends on archers, I believe with Manchu bows the archer’s anchor can be at 34” but with Turkish bows the archer usually only draw 28”. But this again depends on the archers. My draw length is around 31” so my anchor is at my earlobe more or less.
This is a very good and useful video I have a question on aiming I still don’t understand how I should be among with a recurve bow using thumb draw technique and should I have both eyes open or 1
Definitely both eyes open. And the way i aim is I try to look down the shaft (I know its hard when the arrow is on the right side, but if you tilt your head a little you can see it). Then draw with both eyes open and looking at the target
Great video brother
Quick question, do you think you’ll release an intermediate thumb draw lesson, and even an advanced lesson?
There are different archery stances and none of them are wrong between crossing your feet (english longbow), open stance and parallel. With different style the release is different. Manchu archery release is sideways because your draw length is maxed out. I slightly disagree with you that you should draw with elbow up but I think it depends on persons body structure. I have a wide chest to my arm length so I find it more comfortable drawing with elbow slightly downwards.
Thank you for the video. Do you mind telling me what bow that is that your are using? It's a beauty!
Hey youre welcome. Yes its my main bow its a 73LBS Saluki Tartar Bow.
Very informative video I've been watching this multiple times so I can try and master the basics
I just wanted to ask does it matter where the odd fletch is pointing for example in most Mediterranean draw it faces the archer but I've seen people doing thumb draw they dont focus on it facing any particular way whats your opinion on that?
Sorry for the late reply. The odd fletching does not matter in my humble opinion. I have arrows where all my fletchings are the same colours or all of them are different colours. So I dont have any odd fletchings. We try to use khatra with thumb draw so odd feathers make no difference.
Great tutorial! One difference I spotted is placement of the arrow at the bow. You put it on the right side of the bow onto the thumb instead of the left side. Any advantage with this? Need to try that way now
@@laiebi_3639 thank you. Yes it is the asiatic style of shooting. Here is a video of
Me explaining it:
ruclips.net/user/shortsY1XXo4B-VgI?si=Cg7fO__NOJJ135UH
Thank you so much! Will try it out once the ordered thumb rings arrive 😁
@@laiebi_3639 awesome
great video, will defenitly help allot of people.
also noticed you have the arrow rest on your index finger and not on the thumb when you shoot,
Are you using the vermil victory ring?
and o man that saluki tatar bow is beautiful, you have a good taste in bows my friend.
Ive been told often that I use my index finger for the arrow, but in all honesty I think its a subconcious thing I do haha as I have no idea why I do it. I do use a vermil victory ring (my favourite). Saluki is amazing haha Ive orderded the Horn bow in the same style, I will be going full primitive when it arrives haha.
Thanks for the great tutorial. Really really helpful. I only have one question. I noticed that your index finger on your left hand is open. Wouldn't it be dangerous if using a broadhead arrow? It looks like your finger is very close to the arrow tip or is it a camera angle that makes it look so? I am no expert by any means and am just trying to get into archery. If there was level 1, then I am probably 0.5. Not trying to criticize or anything, just want to know what you think about it. Thanks.
Appreciate it. So I have been asked or it has been pointed out to me before as well that I leave my index open. Its a habbit I developed from the beginning haha. It might seem dangerous but I know all my arrows and their length to know my finger is safe. Also we are not allowed to shoot broadheads at targets, and hunting is also not permissible haha. but all I can say is that its not as dangerous as it seems. haha
Mashaallah Alhamdulillah❤
I have glove instead of thumb ring, its much better - no pain at all (Buck Trail Leather Thumb Guard With Leather Strap)
respect,
great video, I learned a lot from you about thumb release. but it remained unclear to me how to aim? until now I have been shooting Mediterranean style from the left side of the bow, so now it is strange to me how to aim with this method. do you have any advice on that? thank you very much in advance.
Hey thank you. Aiming is one of those things that can be very subjective. Every person will have its own method that works for him/her. Here is a link on how I aim and how that works for me: ruclips.net/user/shortsK8YP63lNUs8?si=994COKQR-9BHoSjy
@@TakalBrothers thank You very much for sharing your knowledge. And that was a fantastic shot from 50 yards!
@@sasadjakovic2953 my pleasure I hope it helps. If you have questions please do ask, and we will get to you as soon as we can.
Anyone just shoot thumb release without a ring? I’ve built up a callous and can shoot 45# pretty comfortably for an hour. Is this not recommended?
Good vid 👍, I have a question regarding thumb ring. Is that ring you are using a Vermil ring ? How do you prevent the forward lip of it digging into your thumb tip ? I bought one of those of the correct size but it is deeply dished so when drawing the front edge digs in painfully 😑. I made my own in the end from horn but am wondering if anyone else has this problem 🤔.
oh really, I never had issues with the metal thumb rings from Vermil, however I own a plastic one an it is absolutely terrible using it with my heavy bows, the strings slips off the ring and very often I ended up releasing before Id reach my anchor point, but yeah maybe the ring is not shaped properly as it should not dig in to your thumb or maybe the lip is too narrow or too long for your thumb?
@@TakalBrothers its more like its too short so I suppose I have skinny but long thumbs 😑 I am toying with filling the dished bit with some epoxy so I can reshape the inner surface so it is flatter and my thumb pad has more support to prevent the front edge from digging in 🤔.
@@davewebster6945 I see. Which ring do you have from Vermil? I know the victory and lotus one have the longest lips, because I use two mainly. However I also own the Turkish one (the smallest lip) and the Lantern one was well. but yeah I have no problem shooting any of those rings.
@@TakalBrothers It is the Vermil Victory Silver Plus.
@@davewebster6945 ah interesting. Thats my favourite one hahaha.
can u chrono your arrows im curious how fast they shoot?
Hey we do not own an arrow chronograph to calculate the speed unfortunately. Sorry.
I disagree with your choice of thumb ring for beginners. Metal rings are expensive. You will never, ever get the size right for your first, second or even your third ring. Your thb size will also increase as you shoot thumb draw over time. Plus your thumb size changes from season to season. It is much more practical and affordable for beginners to start with plastic rings and then only when they have a ring size correct and ring style that suits them should they even think about investing in rings of more expensive materials
I appreciate your opinion but my first ring was a metal thumb ring from Alibow, which was $20 and it still is at that price to this day. Its a great thumb ring for beginners and I still use/fit mine after 3years, and I shoot daily lol. But yeah some leather thumbrings are more expensive than metal ones.
I just subscribed to you guys. Very, very nice archery! I enjoyed your how- to video. I am not an archer the of Asiatic practice but of longbow and recurve, and fabricate my own arrows. I have always been fascinated by the stored energy of the horn bows of antiquity and the style of that shooting that surrounded them . Very enjoyable to watch your form of archery! The best to you guys !
Thank you for the kind words. We are looking to shoot longbows in the near future.
Great job. You answered all my questions. What now are you using here and how many pounds for draw length. Thanks
Thank you. In the video I am using my main bow, which is a Saluki Tartar Bow it's 73LBS at 30'.
Assalamu alaykum bro how are you ? . i m from uzbekistan and i archer too. you wonderful archer i saw. and also i have channel too @nurullohKemanci
Walekom salaam brother. Thank you. I will check out your youtube and subscribe to you inshaAllah.