When a Jealous Sister Does the Unthinkable
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- Опубликовано: 31 окт 2022
- In Maclean, Virgina, the wealthy Hargan family lived, headed by retiring Pam Hargan. Pam was living with daughters Helen and Megan Hargan, and one day Helen did the unthinkable to her mother and herself. Or was it just made to look that way?
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Anybody else realised the sick part about how her 7 year old daughter was in the house!!!? That means that poor child either saw or heard what was happening.
Indeed...I easily waiting for a follow up of what happened to the child or if she really was in the house or not
Yeah. A 7-year-old is old enough to talk to the police about anything they saw or heard. Also, the police would have to find somewhere for the child to go - perhaps with her father, perhaps with the other aunt who was not a suspect in a double homicide.
Oh, I thought about it and I also thought about how that poor, scared little thing had to leave that house with her nightmare of a mother and live with her until that woman was finally thrown into jail. The emotional scars that poor girl will always have because of her mother. So sad.
Exactly how could a mother do that to her own daughter
😮
“Those bombs ain’t gonna human resource themselves” might be the greatest line you’ve ever come up with…
Props to Helen for staying for her niece. That truly shows how much she cared for her family. Poor Ashley and Megan’s daughter. It blows my mind what family members can do to each other. Rip Helen and Pamela
Megan did get a new house after all, but there's a bunch of bars on the windows and she has a bunch of criminals for roommates 😐
Hey it's a house right?
@@moni2624 And its a BIG house too! 😉
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@tessaducek5601 with high ceilings too. We are going all out posh
@@NoniOfFive 🤣👍😂 Recessed lighting... !
She is used to the opulence...😅
Helen wouldn’t leave the house because her niece was still there 😔🙏🏼 if that alone doesn’t speak volumes to the huge heart she had, nothing will, may she Rest in eternal Peace ✝️
Hey you are beautiful? Was curious if you wanted to talk? Trade videos maybe
Agreed. Megan's poor kid. And the other sister, Ashley. I hope they have been able to get lots of counseling and support through all of this.
I would have died for my nephews safety too she must have been the coolest aunt ❤️
It was also foolish, she wouldnt be killing her own daughter. just get out of there and figure out the rest later.
@@sew_gal7340 If she’d kill her Mom & sister, what makes you think she wouldn’t kill her daughter too?
My heart breaks for the middle sister. She lost her entire family in the blink of an eye.
the middle child. always the forgotten one.
@@kly1994 hugs to all the middle siblings
Yep. That’s me. The forgotten middle sister. Truly! 🤷🏻♀️Poor Ashley!!
Throughout this whole thing, all I could wonder was, “Didn’t Mike say there was a third sister?” Poor Ashley. Her whole family just decimated, in an instant. I hope she’s doing well now.
And poor Megan's young daughter for having been in the house while her mom was killing her aunt and grandmother.
So odd... I went back and checked several times. I could have sworn he did... glad I am not alone in that.
@@amywietgrefe6629 I was thinking why she was not asked about this or did not say anything
Pamela had an older sister.@@AltaMirage
@@annafrohman6460 Yes, and there was a middle daughter, Ashley, who was mentioned early on. MEGAN was the murderer, Ashley was not involved, and Helen was murdered, along with the three sisters' mother, Pamela.
That’s heartbreaking she stayed because she feared for her niece’s safety
Where was her niece during this? Did she witness all of this?
What happens to little girl ??
@@robbiehammond3574 probably with the dad. But my guess is ran with the girl after she killed them both.
Yeah, I couldn’t believe that!!! By Helen’s own words, her 7 yr old niece was there during the murders. Just unbelievable. But if she could kill her own mother & little sister, it’s not a stretch to imagine she could care less what that would do to her own child. Just selfish & evil.
@@rankinrocks7806 12:43 is when she told Carlos she didn't want to leave because of the niece
The main thing I've noticed about Mike since subscribing to his channel way, way, way back when he only had a few thousand subscribers, he has NOT changed. The success he has earned has not changed his humble, genuine, appreciative personality. We love ya Mike!!
Love that!! Mikes the best 😘
He is truly such a great story teller
Mike has changed some in all these years. I think he feels more comfortable expressing his affection. He was shy about saying, “He loved us”. Or maybe he just has trust issues. 😆
@@shazanali692 He really is good. A balance of seriousness and respect for the victims, but is still very funny.
Yes even if the story is horrible Mike's always made us laugh. His style of narrating earned a million views.
This is such an unbelievably unnerving case. The fact that she did this for a house is crazy. What’s crazier is if you think about her mindset, she was really stupid. She fully depended on her mom for money. Her mother was a constant supplier of the things she needed. Killing her for that house, ended her ability to continue using her mom for money. If she got away with it, she wouldn’t have been able to keep that house. She killed her source of income. This woman’s greed destroyed her entire family. This is just insanity.
It's the "I love ya" at the end that gets me every time. Everything about you is just so endearing. Thank you for making it such a joy to spend time with you. I love ya.
The fact that Helen called Carlos and told him what had happened so that there would be someone who knew the story and could tell the police was a stroke of genius, even though I'm sure she knew she was going to die. That poor little girl must have been terrified of her own mother. And the husband and boyfriend...so many victims.
Me too always love that!!
He doesn't really "love ya"... he doesn't even know who "ya" are ! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Sorry...I'll go take my meds now 😵💫
@@mumtazamiri6409lol
It's a catchphrase..
I know it's sad, but I'm glad that Helen was at least able to contact Carlos. She may have known what was in store for her, but that-and the implausibility of her suicide-helped to clear the name that her sister tried to trash.
her mom definitely like her sister more i think its why she went insane
@@TheJarlath9 No, the mom liked the younger sister more because the older sister was a murderous idiot. She did not become murderous _because_ of the affection asymmetry.
@@TheJarlath9 Don't make excuses for a murderer.
It sounds like, to me anyways, that because Helen went to college & finished her education, maybe her mom made a deal w/ her that by doing that she would buy her a home. Megan didn’t seem to be doing anything w/ her life & maybe their mom used that as a tool to motivate her?? Megan just wanted what she wanted. Sounds like she helped her w/ her daughter so we don’t know all that her mom had helped her thus far. A very sad story all around.
@@Efecretion Megan was used as an unpaid babysitter/child minder/ housekeeper, whilst their mom went off to make herself a career and a fortune in the arms industry. Helen got all the benefits of having a rich mom, that Megan didn't when she was young. Including an expensive private education, traveling abroad... etc
Then Pamela blatantly favoured Helen in every way, and was totally unapologetic for forcing Megan to sacrifice her childhood and her future prospects in order to support her and Helen for all those years..
It's no wonder the by now messed up Megan eventually cracked when they both started to freeze her out.
Still not an excuse for murder, but She must have been utterly heartbroken, and the mother was entirely to blame for that.
I grew up the family outcast, cut out of a meager inheritance for not adhering to my family's religious beliefs...but wound up finding a way to get a home and way of life independent of my kin. I'm better for it now. As much as I understand the frustration of being put on the curb by blood, I don't understand those who think murder is the way to get ahead. Blows my mind.
See that's what I don't understand. You are obviously not evil. Killing them the way that she did doesn't make sense. The way you pulled Yourself by your bootstraps and you became successful is the normal way that people should go about their lives. Being a deadbeat loser like the older sister is not normal.
Still salty about not getting that free money huh?
Must be tough lol.
@@mjanny6330 how does commenting that your circumstance is similar to the one in the video but instead you took the complete opposite route and became successful = being salty? They are letting others know that they dealt with this but that murder is completely out of the question and insane.
Yep, my sister even got the free (our childhood) house. But tho I'm bitter about how I was treated, I never tried to kill anyone. (sure af wanted to at times, but I figured they weren't worth the aggro. And the best revenge is living well. So I'm getting there.)
@@mjanny6330 that was rude and in no way does he or she sound salty. They made it regardless of their family not giving them what should have been their inheritance. People like u are what's wrong with this world!
I 100% understand what it's like to be the "least favorite child". I'm the oldest sibling and my parents spoil my younger siblings and give them everything they ever wanted while I have to work for what I wanted. It's very frustrating working so hard while my spoiled sister "asks" for things and they give her what she wants. I understand the resentment, favoritism, and double standard. But instead of killing her and my parents, I cut myself from the toxic family and move on. I have never been so happy in my entire life. Murder is never the answer.
I don't know about your place but in my community, the child who is weak like physically or mentally not so strong or sharp( I am not talking here about disability though) automatically becomes parent's favourite as they are concerned he or she may not do well in life and pours in more love and support for that child. I believe it's in human nature even for parents to show favoritism on their kids but no way one should harm their parents. We should try to focus on our good qualities, work hard, love our parents and someday whether favourite or not, you will have their blessings to have a successful life. My uncle is a living example of this. Out of many siblings, my maternal grandpa never supported and showed much love to my uncle whom I am talking about here. When he first stared a small business of his own - a small grocery shop, my grandpa used to spit along the way of that shop showing his displeasure whatever his reason was. Later when he got too old and got paralysis attack, among all other siblings, all of them were away due to their work but this uncle was the one who took utmost care of him everyday. My grandpa was not rich so my uncle did not take care of him for money or land. Maybe during this time, my grandpa realised his mistake and I believe gave all his blessings to my uncle before he passed away. As of today, this uncle of mine is the most successful financially among all other siblings. He has the number one grocery shop in his place, everyone in the place respects him, he is like the chief of people. I always take inspiration from him on how to work hard and love your parents no matter what.
You just told my story.
@@ritsr2101 this is not true for everyone, and you shouldn't have to work to get any blessings from your parents.
My mother's "blessings" have absolutely zero value because she was a horrible mother. I do not need her to start liking me because I can do something for her. This is the opposite of the unconditional love a parent is supposed to give their children.
If it's natural for parents to have a favourite, then it is natural to hate said parents.
Chances are most people are not going to respect your younger siblings, whether it be secretly or openly no one likes a spoiled brat.
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Jami, as a survivor of a (different) cancer I am sending all of the positive energy (even prayers if that’s something in which you place trust) to you for your continued progress. You’ve already bested the odds! You are tough as h*ll and make all of us proud!!
Fellow cancer survivor here! Sending you both my very best ~
Mr Crowley, were you too messed up on a black magic blood drinking ritual and typed this comment to the general public by accident?
@@bakielh229Doesn't matter. I think a lot of people know who he's writing this to. I know😂😂
I'll never understand how she could kill her own BABY sister, and her mother. Unfathomable.
From her aged appearance, it looks like she was an alcoholic or drug addict-- so her judgment may have been severely clouded. Or she just had some sort of personality disorder causing her to lack empathy.
Or she was just a shit human being, no need to look too far.
@@heidih3048 pp pp pp imma lpfnuL
not sure why it's so hard to understand- her mom was literally giving her sister a shitload of $ and she was getting nothing. seems that was the straw that broke the camels back from supposedly a lifetime of her mom treating her sister better than her.
then u add that her sister was much better looking, and was seemingly on the path to a good career and happy marriage....
yea makes sense to me
@@PunkinRB Helen had her shit together, Megan didn't. One's an earner that was getting rewarded, the other a moocher looking for handouts, doing zero to earn anything. Mother would have rewarded Megan if she would have grown up already...
Gosh, that poor middle sister… dad leaves the family, they move on and then your older sister kills your mum & your younger sister. Now she’s alone in the world, hopefully that aunt is looking out for her. And Megan’s daughter too, that’s a lot to carry through life 😢
What middle sister?
@@pipdippitydoooo1158 2:17 - 2:26. Pamela had a middle daughter named Ashley. There is nothing more about Ashley in the video.
I was thinking the same thing. Obviously she has done everything she can to stay out of the media. I understand that playing favorite is horrible thing to do. But Megan knew her sister would pay back her mother I have no doubt that is why her mother was paying for that house. Mom knew Megan wanted a handout and would NEVER do anything for herself if she got it. It's not hard to see the picture when you step back and look. It would not surprise me if there was a written contract between mom and daughter about repayment for that house that was not going to be mentioned in the press. Now the middle sister will get everything and would give it all back just to have her mother and sister with her. Greed and envy terrible outcome.
@@terriegilley6574
Well... that's a helluva lot of conjecture there, but ok.
@@ChA0s_AgeNt you are right. When it comes down to it there is always a grey area in everything. I think there was fault in all 3 of these women. Pam should have not played favorites. Like I said it is a terrible thing to do. She could have bought all of her girls a house. (Buy them all a starter home or give them all the same amount for a down payment. Nothing is known about what Pam did for Ashley and we will never know. Megan lived with and off of her mother for a while or some time I don't know how he phrased it. So she was supporting her and her daughter. (Car, gas, insurance, cell phone, food in the house, and a place to live). Not just a place to live she is living in a million dollar home. But greed and envy. I think she thought she deserved more than she was getting and was going to try to get away with taking it. The fact that Helen would agree to taking a gift of that size from her mother is inconceivable to me. She is 1of 3 if Pam did for Helen she should have done evenly for all her girls. There is another problem both girls were unemployed at that point. There is no way that Helen had a job and then could move a 1000 miles away from it while her house was being built. (This happened Pre-Covid). So mom is paying for a house to be built for you and you aren't employed but you have better prospects for employment than your sister so here's a house. Not exactly a good way to keep any relationship with your children. So that's my ramble. Thank you for reading.
On Oct 20th 2022 my twin sister and I lost our 89 year old mom. She was very sick. Mom graciously decided to leave us on our 60th birthday and we are at peace with her decision. Both my sister and I are crushed and would give anything for one more day with her. How can anyone kill someone they love, a family member.
Please don't get in touch with that scammer. That is not Mike. I am very sorry for your loss. I hope you are surrounded by those that love you and loved your mom.
Her mother was a free ride to her lazy drug addicted behind.
Sorry for your loss. My mom passed Oct. 15. I took care of her for 4 years. It was extremely trying sometimes but I could never, ever hurt her because I loved her. I hope you're doing well. I still don't know how I feel besides sad.
My mother was not a nice person, nor even a good person, and clearly had no love for me. Despite all of that I agree with you that it is sick that anyone could kill anyone but especially a family member.
its wonderful that you got so much time with her. My mother is gone too, too soon
“Those bombs ain’t gonna human resource themselves.” I’m only a few minutes in, but that was an amazing line.
Every time I hear or read about something like this I become even more grateful for my family. Jesus. No one's perfect but we genuinely love each other and have healthy relationships with each other.
We're poor, not worth hurting each other for 😂
Well remember many stories featured on here start with a loving and happy family,then suddenly the brother starts wearing his dead grandmothers clothes and……….🩸🗡️🤣😳 only joking it’ll probably your dad ‼️
You are so lucky
Most of my family is awesome but there’s a few I’d rather not be related to. Those are the ones we hide our addresses from and with good reason!
Wow Katie that we are poor statement is too true for so very many of , thank you for sharing that. It is so true in my family as well. Also being poor is not an excuse for being trashy. By that I mean that I was raised in a clean and safe environment, almost all my clothes and toys were second hand. But to us they were wonderful treasures. We were made to do chores go to church and Sunday school and when made really good grades at school we got to have Goodwin ice cream. It was a magical world and I was a blessed child of a large Irish family. Money can't buy what poverty can inspire, with the correct motivation
'Hey you!'
Is the best version of 'you've got mail'
Poor Ashley. Her entire family wiped out.
I like that tactic of the cops laughing at someone they know committed murder and are denying it.
Its just tragic that Helen couldn't escape after her mother had been killed . Very sad story.
@Nikki yep. It's sad that Helen cared more for her niece than Megan did. The child deserved a better mum
I can't imagine Helen's terror at seeing what her sister had done but also so worried about her neice that she couldn't leave. What a monster, and what acting! Just a waste completely.
Excellently done Mike-o. You’re the Man.
11 years between me and my little sister, Like Megan I raised her but unlike Megan, I could never hurt her.
Sibling rivalry can be deadly. RIP Helen and Pam.
It’s always such a bright and happy “hey you!” Just before some horrible gruesome murder. And that’s why we love Mike!
It’s always “hey you” but never “how are you” 😔
It's that Spoonful of Sugar to help you take your medicine.
I'm here for the "trees".. the "hey you" is another perk!! Lol
Yep Mike funny and loveable! The “Hey you and Let’s give it a go” you are different and amazingly good at what you do! Thank you!
And he's funny, too! The BEST!
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Mcdirty by night 🤣🤣🤣
So glad to find your channel. Well researched, interrogation and other video footage I haven't seen even if I've heard the story before. Great work!
Love ya too!
Mike always makes me snort-laugh 😂
So lame and so hilarious!
Mike is sharp lol
I wanted to tell you thank you your programming has brought me and my wife closer together more than ever. My wife is my whole world. Whatever we're having a bad day we're stressed out. We sit down together we hold each other and we watch TC. Thank you Mike you're awesome
She was so brave for staying with the child, and also smart for calling her bf and telling him what was going on. She likely knew she was next, and obviously feared that her niece might also be on her sister's kill list.
She should have grabbed the kid and done a legger.
@@nhmooytis7058 We don't know if she was able to. We don't know what her last minutes were like. All we concretely know is that she called her bf and told him what happened, and was scared for her niece. In my book that makes her far more brave than most of us ever will have to be.
@@BoxOKittens true but if I saw someone murdered I’d make a run for it and go to a neighbor’s to call 911.
@@nhmooytis7058 So would I, but again, we can't know what was going on.
@@BoxOKittens I had a gun pulled on me in the Seventies on the street and was very calm, my BF ran away. He asked later why I wasn’t scared. I said it was daylight and there was a witness (him). He said people get killed all the time in broad daylight with witnesses. Then I realized I was an idiot. Sometimes the line between being brave and being stooopid isn’t clear. 😂
Poor Helen... She just wanted to protect the child... She gave her life for that. She cared more than the girl's own mother.
What a horrible story and so sad. What a diabolical sister.
Thank goodness Helen was able to talk to Carlos and she didn't get falsely blamed.
Absolutely adore you Mike ... Been watching since about 30k 😂 long time fan 🤗🥰💜
Me too! This was such a sad tale. Helen did stay to protect her niece. From her own mother! Unbelievably sad. This kid is dealing with trauma laid at her feet by her own mother. It’s so difficult to wrap my head around this fact! Hopefully she’s with family that are able help her through this pain.
Thank you, Mike…. I love you too, buddy! 🍁😘
💙 SO HEARTBREAKING. MAY HELEN & HER MOTHER REST IN PEACE 🕊🙏😇💙
@@arcticfox7153 your sister just killed your mom and you’re thinking about that crazy bitch daughter ? Some people are too nice , may she Rest In Peace.
Yep, thank goodness Carlos didn’t get the blame also! xx
Just found this:
On November 9, 2022, a judge overturned Megan Hargan's double murder conviction, citing juror misconduct. The ruling came after a juror tried to re-enact Helen Hargan's shooting using a rifle, and during deliberations told other jurors that the defense's theory of the case was not possible. In a statement, the prosecutor said his office plans to retry Megan Hargan. She remains in custody.
Oh, thank you for the update
What would be wrong with reenacting the murder? I don’t get it.
@@norbertomoran4575 not allowed . Have to judge only on the facts and testimony presented in court .
@Norberto Moran You certainly can't reenact the scene and then tell the other jurors the defense theory is improbable. I cannot believe someone would risk letting a killer out to do something so obviously wrong. A teenager would know you can't do this as a juror. I cannot believe a killer might walk because of this dumba$$.
She was once again convicted.
I was getting worried because it seemed to be a day where Mike wouldn't be here to help us give it a go.
Don’t worry, we just went back an hour in Ireland over the weekend
@@ThatChapter waaaaay too many jokes to be made about that comment. Lucky I love you Mike.
(And that we also have daylight savings in Australia and people generally see us as backwards lushes too, so who am I to talk?)
@@ThatChapter lawd. I was wondering too. Thanks! I woulda had a mild panic attack on Friday when it was an hour late again lol.
I was getting a little antsy myself!
I was getting a little antsy myself!
I think it's awful that the police released a statement saying that Helen killed her mother and just let the media run with that for months! Dragging Helen's name through the name through the dirt. She and Pamela deserved so much more and had so much more ahead of them.
I know that part was crappy, but by doing that the police allow the real killer to get comfortable. They do that a lot. Now Helen’s name has been cleared and the actual person who deserves it is spending life in prison.
CNN: “The world ends at 10, Details at 11”
I was thinking the same thing.
@@MissJellybean
That was my thought also....
I have a younger sister who is definitely the favourite child, plus a strained relationship with my mum. Im also certified loopy but ID NEVER go to these extremes! Its really sad when people feel so alone and left behind that they commit these crimes. Peace and love to Pamela and Helens families ❤
"Its really sad when people feel so alone and left behind that they commit these crimes"...Ridicilous, you paint her like a victim too. She is not, she is a monster and she can rot in hell
Same!!! I just avoid my family as much as possible.
My family was complicated and as the oldest I've been through the most. I am estranged from my family. Yes, I'm "certified loopy" and harbour anger still sometimes but it would never occur to me to be violent. My inclination is to run fast, run far. It's the worst feeling in the world to feel like you were dropped into the wrong family. After trying for so long to understand it all cutting ties was the best decision and my mental health is better for it. I believe one can only heal from a distance.
I’m Pams sister. Thank you so much for your kind words
I am a diehard true crime fan. Most of the stories you tell are stories I’ve heard before. You tell them in such a way that I don’t mind hearing them again. You are a great storyteller.
Sibling rivalry can be an extremely dangerous thing.
William, please watch your back!
I couldn't agree more
True, very dangerous. I used to pin him down and fart on my brother's head.
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@@LoveThinkLaugh You sure you didn’t do those criminal acts and you’re now trying to frame your sister for “framing” you?
I remember watching this interrogation & was surprised how she thought she would get away with this. I understand it’s upsetting to not be “the favorite” child, but no one owes you anything.
I like this comment so true !
@@tinygrim so true. Its so sad
@@tinygrim ❤️ i respect you for everything you’ve been through. Sending love
Generally speaking, parents owe everything to their offspring. There's detailed cases where offspring doesn't deserve shit, but in most cases they were forced by their parents into this world and so the parents have a responsibility to provide for them within reasonable parameters.
Not surprising since Dalia Dippolito was audio/video recorded placing a hit on her husband, only to later blatantly deny to him that was her in the recording.
You can't underestimate modern people's sense of self-importance and uncontrollable desires. People are becoming quicker to offend, and they may do anything for a chance to flex.
@jamicurry Jami, you hang in there, girl. I was diagnosed w metastatic uterine cancer a year ago. Getting ready for 2nd set of chemo treatments. Mike’s been with me every step! It’s amazing how something like a good murder story told with compassion and a touch of humor means so much to us! Good luck to you!
Cancer don't own you! Stay up Lizz!
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Good luck! F!luck Cancer!
Good luck to you, and hope you have many healthy years ahead of you 💝
Hi Mike! UPDATE: 10 days ago the judge tossed out her conviction for Juror misconduct. I live about a mile from this home and saw it on WUSA9.
Yeah but she's not going free. She's going to be re-tried and is still being held w/o bond. She will surely be convicted again or will take a plea they offer her before trial.
A convict's dream come true: technicalities.
@@cdes1776juror misconduct isn’t a “technicality”.
She was denied due process by that juror. And is remind you that due process does not depend upon any particular outcome. Everyone has a right to a fair trial, even evil people like this woman.
@@cargopilotguy305what happened? What did this juror do to cause the conviction to be overturned? I agree everyone deserves a fair trial, so I'm really curious. Hell, if I were a juror in a trial for an evil waste of a human, I'd be extra damned careful to fo it all correctly to make sure I wasn't contributing in any way to the possibility that they could be let go.
She was retried, convicted, and sentenced to life imprisonment. Virginia has no regular parole. We have geriatric parole. Inmates can petition for geriatric parole at age 60 after doing at least ten years as well as age 65 after doing at least five years. It's rarely granted.
Helen worked her ass off to build her life while the other one, leeching off their mother, felt entitled to have everything and more. What's very sad is that poor Helen, probably knowing what was going to happen, didn't leave the house because she was worried for her niece. Greed is the worst human trait.
Hey mike ,I’ve watched every episode since you started ,I’ve never commented though but I should have ,I am Irish born lady myself and you are such a very good example, very intelligent and delightful to listen to .
I’m not up for the RUclips stuff but you’ve changed my mind so thank you very much and you are a pleasure to listen to love Wendy xx
Hello fellow Wendy ❤
He makes me want to marry an Irishman! :D
I ship Mike x Wendy
Hey Wendy from the states. Check out the channel Explore with Us. It’s nothing like Mike.He’s one of a kind for sure! It’s interrogation videos with intelligent commentary along the way. Quite a bit of their episodes Mike ends up covering too. Check it out if you want. Take care.❤
He’s Irish ☘️? Even better ❤️
I love how you always find a way to add a little humor to intense situations but never in a disrespectful way! That’s why your channel is my favorite true crime channel on RUclips!
Big thanks to you Mike. Another fantastic video.
I've always been interested in true crime stories, but could not stand many of the RUclips channels that focused on it.
Then I found your videos and was immediately hooked. Your style and presentation and delivery is the best.
I've seen some of the same cases done on other channels, but even though, I watch your version too, and except for Mr Ballen you blow them all away. You do edge out Mr Ballen on true crime stories, it's just not a blowout.
Your stories and your delivery are absolutely top notch.
Thank you for giving us this. And for the record, I love you too.
I agree with you, there's a lot of wannabe rubbish out there but, our Mike is consistently on the ball!
While not similar to Mike, the channel Unsolved No More is a great channel for cold cases. I also dislike most True Crime channels
As a manager of a "bottom shelf bar", let me assure you that these are the exact regular clientele that come to depend on our distance and discretion regarding their extrafamilial antics.
Makes sense. They want to get drunk and other things without coworkers and stuff knowing.
I'm loving your candour. Is that your job title & is it on your CV ?!.
I'm loving your candour. Is that your job title & is it on your CV ?!.
I like hole in the walls
I don't drink in dives.
It really puzzles me why Helen didn’t call 911. She called her fiancé states away (who could do nothing to help) but didn’t call the police who have experience dealing with things like that. Was her niece being physically held by the killer?
Did she try to get the niece and escape? Such a puzzle.
I think she feared her sister would take the niece hostage or harm the niece of the police came. But I’d still call 911.
It's tragic but overall Helen made so many stupid decisions.
people react differently in shock
If she called 911, the police would have come. You stated yourself that she likely thought the neice would have been harmed if the police came. Looks like you answered your own question as to why Helen didnt call 911.
Yeah most definitely very puzzling situation
Why does anyone call a husband/wife/mother/friends or neighbors rather than 911? Never have understood the thought process there. Maybe she knew and wished to speak to him one last time. Heartbreaking.
I called the police for an abandoned gun near the neighborhood where I live in McLean. Luckily they came and took care of it. They asked me “Can you stand by its location?” My response was No, of course not I’ll be back at my home with the doors locked. 😂
Smart decision; YOU could have been brought in.
But her jealousy did not drive her "insane" because that's a legal term meaning she was not responsible for her actions. She planned their murders and tried to hide it. I feel soooo bad for Carlos, his true love Helen lost to him. I would love to know their love story- their photo was so beautiful, how tragic. And Pamela just gets to retire.
I've said it many times b4 but dependent adult children are just plain dangerous.
Mike ❤️
Hey y’all! Have a good week fellow TC Crew! Thanks Mike! Now let’s have a goo! 🎉
You as well Lara❤️
You to my friend 😊
You toooo!
Tuesdays are always better with TC
Thanks! You too 😊
I can't believe no one has commented yet on how shocked/disappointed the garage door looks. Too bad we can't get the thumbs up to register each time Mike makes us smile 😊
I come here for my daily doze of disappointment, and I never get disappointed... you always do a great job Mike. Thank You
RIP Pamela 👼 & Helen 👼
Hey Boise girl!😊
I was glad to see so many replies to your post. I just wanted to tell you that my best friend beat pancreatic cancer 6 years ago. It was a hard road and the treatments were sometimes quite difficult but, life is a rollercoaster ride. Sometimes it's a lot of fun then there are some scary parts. Living through the scary parts just makes you cherish the fun parts even more.
You're going to be fine dear❤️
Plus, you picked a great community here at That Chapter. The people here are awesome 👍
Have a wonderful holiday season!!❤️🎄⛄
So sorry I couldn't apply this post to your thread....the limit has been reached.
My brother was highly favored by my father while we were growing up. It hurt deeply, but I can't even imagine hurting, let alone killing, either one of them. Thankfully, Carlos had the presence of mind to take Helen's call seriously enough to contact the police with the information. RIP, lovely Pam and Helen... 😞🌹🌹
The only way to off family is a murder suicide really
Women tend to favor the daughters and men tend to favor the sons. Sometimes it's the other way around. If they have all boys or all girls, they'll still find a favorite.
You guys have to be Americans with shrinks encouraging to live in the past. Live in the now, enjoy yourself, the past is dead and gone. You only have the now and whatever the future brings
@@personalcheeses8073 What an ignorant comment. Being able to relate to something from the past does not mean you're living in it. I am certainly not American either, and I have a good life and am content and happy but I too have made comments in here as my childhood was far from ideal. I don't dwell on it, but it is what it is and there is no use pretending otherwise.
in my family my brother was favored by both parents since our childhood. I was very deeply hurt, but doing something like this never even crossed my mind
Wow, this one was close to home, having grown up in Northern Virginia. You did a good job describing McLean . How sad that greed and envy can lead someone to kill their mom and sister. But, as we know, these are two motivators that seem to show up again and again in these cases. Stay safe folks!
I live in Vienna Va just down the road. Very sad indeed!
Love the 'light hearted' attitude of Mike...happy-go-lucky story teller.
This kind of shit is the reason that EVERY SINGLE TIME my two young boys accuse each other of being the favorite (which is 100% untrue for both of them, thankfully), I sit them both down together and i let them see that they BOTH think the other is the favorite bc they're actually BOTH the favorite. That poor mama. 😭
I live in the DMV and your description of the area was spot on. Prayers to the family, such a sad and senseless situation.
you live at the border between north and south korea? 😅 hows Kim these days?
@MrPaxio that's the DMZ.
I think you're asking about the smokable powder that crams an entire acid trip into a 20 minute crash course
Deep mountains of Virginia? I’ve never heard that before but that would be my guess because on the story I think they said they live in either Virginia or West Virginia
God I wish I could tell Helen "You can't help your niece if you're dead!" This one was pretty rough to watch. And it might be your first all female story save for that one woman who pushed her elderly mother off the balcony. My heart hurts
I love the way you tell the stories, it makes us feel like we know things on a more intimate level instead of how one would feel while just watching the news
Hi Mike Thank you for sharing with us allowing us to be here with you while you give it a go. Keep up the great work mate!
WOW!! This one felt close to home. I have a similar family dynamic in the fact my mom raised my little sister & I on her own after our father died. After my ex & I split, my daughter & I moved in w/ my mom. My sister was away at college & now has a very successful career. My mom has helped both of us so much but in different ways. I have the kids & she has the big career. We are all very close & live w/in a mile of each other. I’m so proud of my sister. She spoils my kids (she doesn’t want kids) & we are so lucky to have each other & such a great support system. My mom is getting older & not feeling great & I’m here to take care of her. While every family has little issues, I don’t know what I would do w/ out them. I cannot fathom doing something like this. It just blows my mind. Just horrible!!!
Well I am sure the materialism was how Megan was raised. Mom maybe planned to spend winters in the Texas house and leave it in Helen's name. It is a known phenom that parents of millenials are buying houses and then letting the kids take over the mortgage. It skews the housing market, making young families that are disadvantaged, have a hard time finding a first home that's affordable. Or the mom had said, ``if you go to college, I will give a house to you, but not if you go out and have babies.'' Or she was planning on leaving the Virginia home to Megan or thinking about it. But Megan was impatient.
Hi, sounds like everything is working out great in your family. I am happy for you. On Oct 20th 2022 my twin sister and I lost our 89 year old mom. She was very sick. Mom graciously decided to leave us on our 60th birthday and we are at peace with her decision. Both my sister and I are crushed and would give anything for one more day with her. We lost dad 20 years ago but this loss is very difficult and different
Since the jab?
@@Eyeballpaul84 Pardon me; but, huh?
@@Eyeballpaul84 people get older and we all break down eventually. Stop trying to spread bs about vaccines.
I love That Chapter. You’re an amazing host. Love your personality, great sense of humour, and storytelling skills. Thanks for doing videos. 😊
Thank you for your videos, you are an amazing story teller. I live in Vienna, Va and work in McLean, Va. I heard about this story. You think that house is expensive...you should look up housing prices in the area...that's NOTHING compared to most. some are 8 digits big
Wow!! I’m a long time watcher and clicked this one today. I work in McLean and I have never heard of this!
What a sad story. I have a sister, and I couldn't even fathom getting rid of her because of hatred or any other reason. I'm happy Megan was found out and sentenced accordingly. Jealousy is the root of all evil in this case. Good job, Mike! Can't wait until Friday for your next video. You truly make two days a week something to look forward too 🥰
All my life I’ve always wanted sisters. I have cousins I’m close to that I view as sisters, and my brother’s SO is filling that role but I can’t imagine hurting any of them. I would go through fire for them. It’s unthinkable to murder your own sister and mother.
Parents playing favoritism usually does not end well. My parents played favorites with my sister & brother & I was the black sheep of the family that was disowned 25 years ago. About 4 years ago my mother & I are back in each others lives & my mom confessed too me that she royally f**ked up with spoiling my sis/bro...because to this day, they both are STILL living in my moms home, living off my mom. My mom is so impressed that I've done so well for myself without any help from them. I've traveled all over, live in my own home, am independent af & all without any help from my family.
I have had a somewhat similar experience. My folks are both gone now - although I was the one who stayed with them and helped them through their final days. I was holding my dad's hand when he passed, even though he had disowned me several years earlier. My (ex)brother got the entire inheritance, but he hadn't helped them at all.
I'm glad you worked things out with your mom.
I had also worked out the relationship with my dad, even though he never changed his will.
I don't think it was "favoritism" as much as it was exasperation with a useless do-nothing daughter whining about her well-educated successful sister. Probably "mom" didn't want to reward Meeegan for being a lazy sloth and DID want to reward the daughter that got her college degree and was living life responsibly.
Maybe Megan shouldn't be a sack of crap and she'd get more praise.
Mike is def my fave!! I love how he goes into detail and does it in under 30mins.. never is he giving windbag explanations n boring the shit out of me like others do.. UR AWESOME MIKE!! keep the good shit coming!! Also do Victoria Martens' case please.
Mike, I’m going back through old videos and I have to say… you’ve come so far in the last 4 years, your storytelling is always entertaining and you always make me laugh. No eating or drinking while watching… I end up snorting and shooting something out of somewhere… 😅 Anyway, thanks for all you do and let’s give it a Goooo! ❤
U Jack it to these videos? I mean love Mike and true crime but gross
It's lovely just how much his channel has grown!
Yes he has. More confident found his voice in a way. It's so lovely to watch how he has developed his show and his self but not letting go of his core self either. Hope I am making sense .lol.
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Mike I love your work sir! I'd like to suggest covering the case of 6 year old Alanna Gallagher(2013 Saginaw, TX). Her body was found literally a few streets down from where I lived with my 4 siblings who were at the time the same age as her. It really struck the community hard and they left purple ribbons all over town to honor Alanna for like 2 years. I'd love it if you covered this case because you're so thorough and we never really did find out exactly what happened to her.
I don't think Mike covers cold cases. At least not that I've seen any on this channel. Usually his case recounts know what happened to the victims and the perpetrators have been apprehended.
@@ahenwaa5133 he did in his early videos and occasionally there’s some cases with inconclusive endings/cold cases.
@@ahenwaa5133 It's not really a cold case, they caught/killed the guy who did it. It was just crazy because the person who did it, everyone knew around town. There's just details to the case I never learned is what I meant.
If I watched this correctly, after the police/coroner found out that the rifle shot into Helen was impossible for it to be self-inflicted, thus ruling out suicide, they continued to report to the news it was a murder/suicide??? Maybe to prevent the real murderer from getting too suspicious and running? I don't know, it just seems weird.
Absolutely!
It was done to keep the killer unaware of how much they actually knew.
It's a common police trick. This way they can invite the other sister to an interview "as a witness" and get her on tape say blatant lies that they know to be lies and use it to convince the jury.
@@leparfumdugrosboss4216 oooo
@@leparfumdugrosboss4216 and it worked perfectly. Megan was great at incriminating herself. Especially about the money transfer.
Nothing calmes me more down than to fall asleep with your voice...Thank you ,Mike...that means a lot to me and you also. Best wishes from Hamburg/Germany
Mike... you are the BEST at sharing true crime stories!!! You are so thorough, showing actual videos and documents and with a funny personality! I watch all your videos and always look forward to the newest!! Keep up the amazing work!!! Much love..watching from New Hampshire ♡
Damn, how do find all this crazy shit Mike? You do a hell of a job researching and presenting the story. Appreciate you sir
United States…..
@@MT-dh2tr More murder happens in China, Russia, South Africa, south American countries etc.
I'm sure Mike has a very busy schedule. Presenting two videos a week seems like a tall order.
Everyone of his cases are high profile in their respective areas so there's alot of info available on them... it isn't that hard but alot of work nonetheless
this case was recently on "48 hours"
Hey Mike do a Delphi murder update about Richard Allen love your work
Will do when we know more!
I was thinking the same thing
@@ThatChapter omg it's the first time you have personally commented back I feel like I won something
Maybe an update on Faith Hedgepeth in the future, once the trial is completed. Thanks for all your hard work.
@@StRiKerhost you did 😅
@Jami Curry, God bless you. Lots of hug, love and good vibes from NC. You got this!
I like this guy cause he doesn’t even pretend to be respectful.
I think he does respect the victims. He does these videos in his own way, adding humor to lighten the dark mood considering the topics are heavy to deal with.
@@annsu77 I thought that too at first I almost commented the opposite like thank you for lightening things up, but after watching a lot of his videos I realize that his goal of humor kinda overpowers the need to be like should I make a joke here? Or should it be this joke?
Thank you, Mike. I've been watching you every week for several years now. Take care of yourself, brother. Love TC. Stay healthy and safe.
Cough it up chompers nearly killed me!!! I laughed so hard I couldn’t contain myself😅Thank you for doing such an amazing job!
Hi Mike ❤️ your video's we've listened to you for 2,yrs now and have enjoyed every minute thanks for all your hard work makes life a little better. ❤️🙏🏼
Your story telling is by far unparalleled
Your editing and putting a story together is must see
Time and time again you hit home runs
Thank you very much
Keep on keeping on
Thanks for all your hard work Mike. Had an awful week but I always enjoy giving it a goo.
I hope things get better for you SkeletonRabbit. May all your following weeks be a lot better, easier, in your favor.
So what happened to the little niece that was there? Did she witness this? I wonder if she testified against her mother? This must've had lifelong PTSD effects on the poor girl...?
You are an amazing dude! Some of your subscribers described you as humble, endearing, smart, cute, humorous, etc., I could go on & on, you are all that and so much more! You can do no wrong Mike ❣😍🥰
God bless you Jami! Sending healing prayers to you and your family!
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This really pulls at my heart having a little sister. Have you heard the news about the Delphi case, Mike? Really looking forward to your updates on that and the Vallow-Daybell cases!
This is a very rare Chapter, an all female cast!!! I know what jealous sisters are like, I have one. Thanks Mike, another excellent Chapter, pity there was no life insurance jiggle in this one.
Mike has such an infectious personality, and he seems like a nice guy too. Hats off to him for putting together awesome videos full to the brim with content.
We love you too, Ole Mike. Lol. You brighten our days! This one was really interesting.. I would normally say, “I wonder what went on to make her that bitter??” But, she had her child there during the murders! HER CHILD. That explains everything I need to know.
Today hasn't been one of the best days for myself, this was the first suggestion. Thank you for your friendly and funny delivery in your videos, and I really needed a friendly voice. Thanks for being a friend, and remember, we love and appreciate ya ❤️
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Looks like a beautiful place. When you first mentioned Pam's daughter Megan, my money was on her straight away. No job, no money and was living at home with her mother She obviously had a sense of entitlement. It seems Pam was a good mother, looked after her children, and took Megan and her daughter in, Pam obviously knew that Megan was not like her other daughter who seemed to have her life sorted, and Megan hated this fact. Listening to Megan talking about her sister, Helen I get the feeling that Megan is talking about how she felt, and just flipped the story onto Helen. They say money brings you happiness, well from where I'm sitting it seems this is far from the truth. What a self-absorbed, embittered, and jealous woman.
Love how your the only storyteller who can take a crime story and add some comedy without insulting any of the victims! I love watchin your videos mike you tell the story so seriously ,.but a little comedy on top! Awesome videos!
Another Brilliant video Mike☘☘.The twist and turns,just great.....Well done our Mike
Mike alway's bring's it gonna be another great installment of jealously backstabbing affairs etc..etc.. the list is endless..
Thank's mike
MIKE. Thank you for existing. You are amazing 👏
Awesome Mike, your video was way more in depth than 48 hrs episode. Yours was more entertaining also bc of your amazing narration. Thanks and don’t stop the great work!
This is one of the best channels on you tube, thanks Mike for the content.
Stay aware and stay safe!