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Has the Rolex DateJust Been Left Behind? | Watchfinder & Co.
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- Опубликовано: 3 май 2018
- Two watch brands: one is founded half a century before the other, repeatedly obliterates accuracy competitions with clean sweeps and unbroken records, is selected by numerous global institutions to provide timekeeping-and the other is Rolex. With the five-pointed crown’s domination in this present era of watchmaking, it’s hard to believe that Rolex is, really, the new kid in town. Is it starting to show?
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I think the Globemaster is so criminally underrated in Omega's current lineup. It hardly gets mentioned and it's one of the nicest watches they make - discreet, loaded with heritage, and is a kind of "back to basics" watch from Omega.
Excellent comparison. And though i'm a big fan of the Rolex Datejust 41mm, Omega makes the kill with the Globemaster. Omega wins here in many respects.
A wonderful video as usual, and that Globemaster is, to me at least, a true competition for the Datejust, and although the Rolex will remain King in most people's eyes, I would choose the Omega in this case
Same, I just love Omegas
Rolex never went to the moon.
Actually there is compelling evidence that they did. Several astronauts on the Apollo missions wore Rolex watches. Go look it up. In any case, that's your yard stick? Rolls Royce never launched a car into space, but I think they make a decent car. Patek and AP have never been on the moon, last I checked they know how to put a watch together.
I don't have a problem with Rolex apart from the image; it's just not me. They do make truly beautiful watches, but one wouldn't feel right on my wrist. I like Omega because they seem to me to be more subtle. However I am starting to covet the Tudor Black Bay :)
Watch Geek yes Rolex is king
Omega Globemaster is one of the most beautiful watches of all time!
I own both omega and rolex date just. Omega is really having a robust and beautiful movement especially the coaxial master chronometer movements excel. Also Omega has a superior build quality.
Personally I like the Omega's design more. It's clean and subtle unlike the Rolex with the oversized markers. And the value proposition is just too good! For the price of that Rolex I picked up the anual calendar version of the Globemaster and I must say, the bigger face makes the watch even better looking!
You say Omega but Daniel Craig says "Omeega"
Daniel Craig says it wrong in that case..
Daniel Craig gets paid to do that lol
Daniel Craig is right
Vesper thought it was rolex.
" Oméga " french prononciation :)
Omega for the win! The stainless steel Globemaster with a bracelet and blue face is beautiful.
Alonso Castro and I own the exact piece that you're referring to! 😊⌚
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I have the blue one too. Got it a year ago and it still feels impressive. The tungsten carbide bezel is smooth to touch and the blue is just lively! Rolex looks like a faux-antique.
BOTH for the win ^_~
And a Tungsten Bezel
That was my first “real” watch. It’s just stunning. I don’t think I’ll ever part with it.
@1:49 that Datejust wrist shot is something to behold. OMG!
I'm looking to buy this exact Omega Globemaster. Although I have been looking at Rolex but finally decided on the Globemaster for 3 reasons: 1. I'm not a millionaire but indeed I can afford both but if I would to wear the Rolex many people will simply jump to the fake Rolex judgement. Howevere, with the Globemaster, you can't be mistaken (not with a top notch alligator leather band) which non of the fakes has. 2. It's not important to me the resale value as I don't ever think of selling my watches and may God well I will never have to. 3. Rolex is indeed make their own in-house movements, however, the finish is no different than Seiko or Tag. That's why you never see a Rolex with Crystal back. If you common customers saw the movement finish, it's game over for their marketing gimmick.
Rolex movements are better than Seiko and tag, the movement finish is not really an issue because they’re not highly decorated dress watches or complications. Who wants to see a 4r15 or a selitta sw200 through a case back? MYbe someone new to watches but for most of us we would prefer a top quality reliable movement like those in Rolexes, over off the shelf Sellita or seikos with poor accuracy (and a missaligned bezel and regain to boot).
I’ve owned pretty much every Seiko from an skx009 and Seiko 5 field watch to a grand Seiko and modern Rolex is just better. Seiko is great but putting a display back on a pedestrian movement doesn’t make them better than Rolex.
Much prefer the Globemaster. Cleaner looks and no cyclops.
Kraken1000
Yeah I hate the cyclops on Rolex watches.
But it will can't stop being a knockoff of the Datejust.
Ok mr. Nobody.
Well that escalated quickly
Nadie I’m afraid there’s some measure of truth to the knockoff comment. The original Globemaster from the 50s looked nothing like this, and the model ‘66 on which this 2015 re-release is based had a completely different case and fluted bezel. The model at hand simply reflects earlier Datejust models. And you will never be able to avoid comments like “is that a Rolex?”
I am fortunate enough to own a 300m Seamaster Seaweed, A new Sapphire Speedmaster and a Globemaster 2020 on the bracelet. Of the 3 the Globemaster is king - so comfortable, so cool and so underrated.
I have the blue Globemaster and the Speedy sapphire sandwich and love them both. Difficult to pick which one to wear.
The Omega is a much better value than the Rolex at initial purchase, but the Rolex holds its value better. However if you are in the market for a pre-owned watch, NOTHING beats the Omega.
Never have I clicked faster on a video notification...
same
Omega are definitely worth considering and in many ways represent excellent value for money. I’m planning on making the Planet Ocean 8900 my next watch. There are also major problems in terms of actually being able to buy certain watches from the Rolex sports range which frustrate me. No wait lists or over inflated prices for an Omega.
At 4:14 you can see imperfections on the interior edge of the bezel. In the opinion of Watchfinder and Co. are these imperfections due to wear and tear or are they manufacturing flaws? Thanks so much for any input! Love your videos!
The Omega wins again, nicer , better movement , elegant design. Great review as always
I chose the DJ36 blue dial over the Aqua Terra and Globe Master due to fluted bezel, jubilee bracelet and clasp. I likely will add an Aqua Terra in green dial.
"and the other is Rolex......" Lol
ThisnThatPackRat True, but who cares about Joe Blow?
independent hour hands adjustment! perfect omega watch for me!
The Datejust41 made me realise just how large the hour makers are on the DJ2. Too big in hindsight, for me.
yogogorillamix Same here. I didn’t realize it either until the 41 hit the market.
Beautiful watches and as usual amazing review. I would choose the datejust hands down. For some other people the omega might be a better choice
Omega all the way for me, Rolex just knew how to sell themselves out through marketing.
That Omega looks refined and modest, the Rolex is screaming for attention.
I'd take the Omega for its looks and its co-axial movement (something this channel just praised maybe three videos ago...)
99.9 percent of people have literally zero idea of what makes a good watch. But nearly 100 percent of people know what a Rolex is. It's not just a watch, it's a watch for the rich and powerful. If you went to the poorest African village and asked what Coca Cola was they would tell you a drink. If you asked what a Rolex was they would tell you a watch. A watch worn by presidents and billionaires and dictators. It's a Rolex.
So you can spend 5,000 on a watch that 1 percent MIGHT know is a nice watch or 6,000 on a watch that EVERYONE will know is a nice watch. You might not personally want the baggage that having a rich mans watch gives you (douchebag, bragger, doesn't know how to spend his money) but there will always be a market for Rolex. It's the king, it's the "best" in most people's eyes and because of that it will sell forever.
it certainly is not the best. You cannot compare the quality of a watch by how many people know about it. i bet more people know about tags than rolex or casio for that matter that does not make those watches great. On the other hand very few people ll know about patek AP vacheron and brands like that. Watch should be bought based on the quality and craftsmanship and the legacy that the brand holds not on how many people know about the watch that i am wearing on my wrist.
the best load of shit is still a load of shit. Best is just a marketing / sales strategy. I like rolex for their brainwash marketing.
Buy a watch to please yourself not others...
I actually know many rich people who don’t want one or own one. There are people who are rich and they may have one. I feel that many people who are not in that group of wealth prob go broke trying to obtain one or just buy a fake that is gutted and a generic movement is put in it with a real case because of past damage.
You could also just buy a watch that... you know: YOU like. Buying a watch because all other should know how good/expensive it is, isn’t for everyone. I love watches and love the history and craftsmanship, but buy what you like and love - not what others do
The Datejust looks stunning. Love the way Rolex does a fluted bezel. But I prefer the slimmed down hour markers of the new DJ 41.
I'm a retired guy that has a 41 Datejust with the fluted bezel that I just inherited. Beautiful but not overdone.
Omega is an incredibly accurate timepiece; Rolex is an incredible looking timepiece. Who does simplicity as beautifully?
Its all in the messaging - Its not enough to just create a great watch, you also need to be able to sell the idea to buyers. And Rolex takes the crown in that respect. Rolex has always had a uniform messaging about its simple watches. Omega on the other hand keeps changing its messaging and designs too frequently...One exception is the Moonwatch with a largely unchanged design and messaging, which is why it is such a bestseller.
Datejust is a classic and always will be. That oyster case, stick indices, silver dial, and fluted white gold bezel, just perfect.
with that ugly cyclops that will distort the 3 o'clock position...forever.
To bad they fucked the proportions up with the Datejust 2
Just love that Omega.
The Rolex really does not do well in the visual comparison here, does it?
Another quality review. Thank you.
the newer datejust is more refined and a much better movement then the one you got there!
You lose your credibility as soon as you put then instead of than.
I think the Datejust is better looking. Way down on the list of why to buy this watch though is how does it keep it's value. The Datejust will be able to be sold even if it's beat up, that Omega will lose value FAST from day one.
Dan only poor people worry about resell value
Dan they keep their value just because people are desperate to be noticed with a Rolex and it has been associated with wealth and power among common people with less knowledge on watches. Rappers and advertisements keep their value high.
TheReaper5125 regardless of the reasons he’s correct - they hold their value more so than Omega.
That makes really no sense whatsoever.
Ive had a few omegas that actually appreciated when i sold them. Difference is, on a long enough timeline, EVERY rolex appreciates
Hey! That’s exactly my first watch right there. The Datejust II 116334. Silver dial with baton hour markers. Also the minute markers printed behind it. It was given to my by my Father in February 2015, which was my birthday. This is 5 years to it which makes it more amazing.
Can you review the 2018 Omega Seamaster with the ceramic, wave dial and new co-axial movement? Very much enjoy your reviews.
Take a look at the omega speed master racing. You could compare its value to the professional perhaps.
The Datejust II is just a fugly thing. Why not refer to the new Datejust 41 instead?
If I were to bu the Globemaster, I'd go for the annual calendar version. It has a little more character and panache.
A great video as usual, the rolex datejust modern iterations are a bit superior in my eyes due to market value, and a general better fit and finish over Omega, id still choose the Rolex and I own both rolexes and omegas, i still pick modern rolex over modern omega, just my 2 cents, you should do an AP vs Patek video
A watchmaker friend of mine used to say there are three stages when it comes to Rolex: First you like it cause it's prestigious and everyone knows it, then you hate it because you realize that there are more high end brands like patek and AP, and finally you have to admit that, besides their snobbish reputation, Rolex still make quite decent, well-built watches
(but so does Omega)
Rolex are machine made mass produced...most watchmakers prefer an equally priced JLC.
Well said. Rolex are not bad. But overpriced. Omega and Seiko could make watches in similar quality for less money :)
I had slightly different 3 stages. Initially I disliked Rolex watches, found them boring and ugly. Then I got sucked into the hype, Instagram - how good Hulk looks in the pics, etc.. I had to buy it!!! But AD were empty, after putting my name on a list was told 1-2 years wait. Few weeks later at my next visit, I got told around 6 years wait (though a guy was taking a piss but I didn't want to create a conflict). At my last visit, a sales person told me wait up to 10 years, I just couldn't resist and started laughing. In 10 years it's possible to build a spaceship, there's no way someone will wait for a Rolex watch that long. She told me the demand is too high! So I asked how many Rolex watches do I need to buy in order to obtain it faster, as I know some people bough couple of watches to obtain desired sports model. Her reply was that it won't help, as one time they sold Rolex watches to one customer on 500K AUD$. Obviously I mentioned that it's most likely for a resale, as no person in their right mind would spend 500K on Rolex watches. Her reply was that their AD tries not to support grey market. Right ))) So after my last visit I realised, that I was bluntly gettinging lied in my eyes, at an AD shop. Why would I want to deal with people like that in the future?? Stage 3 was that I started to hate Rolex again and now I'm highly considering my second Omega watch, Globemaster.
Those index markers are way too big!
Agree. DJ41 fixed everything that was wrong with DJ2.
Tobias Dahlberg best thing about the dial
The Rolex OP, DJ, Air-King et al all look insipidly the same now.
Tobias Dahlberg I don‘t think so. In my opinion small indexes look like a waste of space on the dial. It looks weaker.
Just my opinion
Especially when you compare it with an omega :))
I love the style, pace and delivery of these videos. They make a very simple video into something very watchable and full of good copy and the usual excellent voice-over. For me if I had a gun at my head and had to choose one of these it would be the Rolex all day long.
Another great video. I would love to hear your thoughts on Stowa watches.
I have a Stowa Flieger with the ETA 2824-2 Top movement that I love very much. The finish is flawless and the flame blued hands are simply brilliant when they grab the light. It's been running an average of +0.6 seconds/day for months by leaving it crown-up over night. I know that doesn't make it a chronometer, but I'll take it for the fair price.
Can you make a video of the equipment and gadgets that you use to create your videos. Which camera, lenses, tripod, lighting, audio equipment, editing software do you use to create such pieces of art.
Behind the scenes would be great, but you could buy the same equipment without achieving his level of quality. It's the person not the tools.
"The story you tell is more important than what you use to tell it"
It's not the gadgets they use that make these pieces of art..
Thats true, but you're forgetting that there are people who enjoy making videos as a hobby and can appreciate this channel for THAT aspect in addition to great writing and direction.
You sound like someone I know in Qatar!
gtfo this is a watch channel not a filming channel. behind the scenes will only cause the magic in these videos to be lost.
That old 41mm datejust is just hideous. Too bulky, too wide indexes. The new one is completely different, and the 36mm works always.
Det date at 5:25 isnt even centered properly?
This is very common, how come?
The dial on the Datejust looks out of proportion. I'd Much prefer the Omega or a vintage Datejust.
Good video. Rolex is outdated overpriced and dealing with ad’s and everything surrounding it is not my taste. I’ve moved on after selling mine bye bye!!! Omega the king has taken back it’s 👑!! But please buy what you like.
I think there's a word for outdated. It's called classic.
Rolex for me😁
I cross shopped these. Bought a JLC geophysic instead.
Wise move.
I already have a Rolex OP39 with white dial, love it... but the Globemaster is next on my list, it's such a beautiful and elegant watch!
Funny, I have a white OP39 and I'm thinking the same thing
Once you guys buy Globemaster, you can dump your OPs
The Globemaster is highly underrated yet priced well. I would pick the Globemaster over the DateJust.
I like how Apple is described and the parallel between Rolex and Apple is incredibly deep.
I don't know why but I much prefer a vintage Rolex Datejust as opposed to it's modern counterpart. Something tells me I may not be the only one that shares this opinion
Oh yeh I'll take a vintage Rolie any day but not a modern one
I would put the Omega Aqua Terra as more of a direct competitor to the Datejust. The Globemaster is a little dressier. In fact, when I bought my Aqua Terra, it was between the AT and the Datejust. Both are great watches, but I prefer the look of the AT, and the >15,000 gauss technology. Like others here, I also like the more subtle profile of Omega brand.
Aqua Terra 41.5mm: image.rakuten.co.jp/jackroad/cabinet/benefit4/om595_im.jpg
Datejust 41mm: cdn2.chrono24.com/images/uhren/images_25/s2/6742225_xxl.jpg?v=4
i am seeing datejust with embosed drawing in the bezel and datejust without....what about this?
how do you light and color the way you shoot the watches so well?
Can’t believe that some people have disliked this.?very informative high production value, outstanding
Is it me or the narration was a lot faster? Regardless, many prefer the globemaster out of the too because the datejust is just simply a bit bland. Better comparison: daytona vs. speedy.
If would choose between the two, well... I wouldn't pick any. The Datejust is too big for my wrist and the hour markers are huge. The Globemaster kinda “apologizes” for being there with such delicate bezel and hands (and as such, is not a true competitor to the DJ2 for me). Now, I love the clean, simple style of these dials and waches. But I would just go for a 36mm Datejust or Oyster Perpetual. From a stylistic point of view, they beat the Datejust and Globemaster in this video. At least, for now :)
I have datejust II, same design. 116334.
Thinking of selling it as i dont wear it much.
3k £ ?
Rolex all day, everyday and twice on Sunday.
Your watch channel is wonderful!
4:46 there is a bit of dirt on the 10 o'clock marker, and the right side of that marker has some black smudge on the lume.
I have a Hamilton Khaki Pilot Day Date and it's really nice for 600$. However, I need a new grail watch cause I love the non-abreviated Day/Date. Its a shame Rolex only has their Day-Date in precious metals for $30k+.
Nice comparison. Perhaps you want to have a look at the Horage Autark Titanium with the K1 movement. Something rare not many people have heard or seen ever. Just in case. Thanks Andi
Omega aqua Terra GMT blue dial is the best .
If money was no object between these two I'd pick the Datejust as I think this particular one is a stunning piece. With the exception of this pairing I'd take an Omega 98% of the time
I'll stick with the Aqua Terra. This Omega's bezel is so Rolex!
Omega actually brought out the fluted bezel before Rolex, so technically, the Datejust’s bezel is so Omega ☺️
Please review the 41 datejust in its entierty.... I have a difficult choise to make the gold bezel 41 or the white gold.
I love fluted bezel. I have one that is built and preserved inside the glass case. It's zaratsu polished, and, so are the hands and indices. They still glitters after more than 50 years. It's the 37.5mm 7619 7060 Sportsmatic. I also have the 7619 9060 which has lume hands and indices like the omega and rolex, only that, again, they are zaratsu polished. And, yes, they are Seiko 5, but, very high class ones. I bought them for less than $200 a piece in excellent condition. You don't have to pay a lot of money for a nice watch.
That DJ is pretty blingy, in a good way.
My take=Omega>Rolex.
Top notch video as always !! :)
I don't think that the presenter mentioned that the price of the Rolex is higher in part because of the solid, 18K gold fluted bezel, center links, hands and indices.
Wasn’t sure if centre links are polished as opposed to gold..
Please review the Omega seamaster aqua Terra
Rolex DateJust: The official timekeeper of the used car salesman
Yeah but the used car salesman probably has one from the 80s with a champagne dial. He bought it used just to say he had one, even though it was far cheaper than either watch in this video.
ZCT808 I once saw a gold datejust with a champagne dial in red nato. I dont know how, but it worked.
As fake as the odometers of cars he's trying to sell.
Viriatvs..... Jealousy is a terrible thing. Get over it.
😂😂😂😂😂
Putting aside the snobbish spirit imprinted in peoples mind about rolex (reason why some love it and some hate it), i personally like the datejust more. The globemaster doesnt look like an omega, it looks like a datejust. If it didnt say “omega” in the dial, and instead it said something like “pierre phidelis” ...we would all probably call this watch a rolex datejust homage. I would definetly go for the datejust and then buy another omega, maybe a speedmaster. Two classics with tremendous history and must haves in a collection.
I was seriously considering a datejust 41, but now I’m seriously considering a globemaster. Actually, I recently went to a local retailer that carries both of these brands. The old sales guy didn’t even know what the globemaster was! Of course he was more than familiar with the datejust. 🤦🏻♀️ He just wanted to talk about Rolex and Patek.
I am circling the Breitling Navitimer Cosmonaut for quite some time now, I would love to hear your comments on the watch. Best regards
I like the Omega in substance, but realistically the Rolex will always holds its value better and be seen by non-watch people as the more desirable piece.
When you think of holding value and watches as an investment then you are the best customer for Rolex lmao
When you are concerned about other people's opinions then you are an easy prey lmao
Finally a person who explained well the difference between these two brands and were they both lie in their vision.
I would get the Datejust mostly due to the overall aesthetic. I really find use and love the cyclops to let it go on watches that don't have it.
Globemaster is exquisite.
@watchfinder&co hi, im turning 25 this year, and im starting my own craft beer bar soon, i plan to get a watch for myself as a gift of my first foot step in the adulthood, right now, i'm stuck between the omega speed master, rolex submariner, rolex datejust , which watch should i actually get if its gg to be an everyday watch for myself. I just cant decide. HELP ME OUT!
the pie pan dial on the Globemaster is really awesome
Is this a 36 or 41mm datejust?
Love both brands . The problem with Rolex is when you open the steelcase (nothing to write home about, but built like a tank) while the Omega shows its innards proudly (that in itself says something ) . Rolex is timeless (which can be a bad thing ) , while Omega has too much on its plate. I just think Rolex is not worth what it offers (not a hater. i have an Explorer 2, and a Dytona and also own a Seamaster and a Constellation) . Instead of looking at another Rolex i find myself looking at other brands like GO (which i got recently) , and JLC (for example ) . BTW i don't care for resale as i get a watch that i like and use , and not to take care for the next person .
Could u plz do a video on the jaeger lecoultre master compressor chrono 2
Dear Watchfinder & Co, will you please let me know what music you use for your videos? I like it a lot.
I like the Globemaster, but only on the strap, the bracelet is ehhh. My new DJ 36 two tone on oyster however is amazing. Oozes quality. Omega will always play second fiddle to the 👑
My brain wants the Globemaster but my heart wants the Datejust.
You need to see a heart surgeon...pronto!
it's not your heart, it's your ego wants rowlex
Really digging that Globemaster!
I like them both and own the Rolex in this review. I’ve considered a Sedna Gold Constellation but the dial just seems somehow bland. It’s neither dressy, sporty or sophisticated. The DJ overall gets the win as a better all rounder.
My father's Globemaster 8900 caliber after 70 days it is precise, 0 seconds! Unbelievable
i thought that the number indicators with big white chunks make it less classy then the previous model .
Yes. Well made, but leaves me cold. Not elegant enough for dress, not ”sporty” enough for casual. And dated, id rather have an aqua terra or better yet an iwc. On a sidenote, accuracy is irrelevant.
Accuracy is relevant, your opinion isn't
Could not agree with you more sir.
Master chronometer and certification from METAS and cosc gives Omega tremendous value in any price segment
But the love it or hate it Cyclops love it or hate it fluted bezel. Both of them I personally love in the datejust and not to mention the optional jubilee bracelet justifies the high value of the Rolex datejust.
Although my choice would be a Rolex datejust and a Omega seamaster the new ceramic bezel.getting best of the two world's.
A question of personal taste and whether you got for image status or the better movement.
Another great video! Thanks for posting. I wanted to like the Omega, but overall it left me flat. At 4:14 that Rolex bezel between 6 o'clock and 7 o'clock has some imperfections that appear unrelated to wear to me. Omega really only wants $100 additional for the steel bracelet for this watch? That seems about $900+ less than expected. I bet they won't sell one at the boutique for that price!
Uhhh it is on the exterior of the watch, how do you think it is not related to wearing it
Can you review the Patek Philippe reference 3939?