I totally agree that they were the best generation. I love this mini series I’ve watched it many times. My parents survived the depression and World War II, my dad was a foot soldier in the Army, and made it 7 months on the front lines. Survived 3 battles and was a part of freeing Buchenwald Concentration camp. They just lived every day to it’s fullest and viewed life as a gift. They viewed money very different than we do today. They were amazing and I miss them both so much!!
@@thevillaaston7811 If English isnt your first language, I can understand your question. Not everyone survived the Great Depression. You can read about it for yourself. Their father survived the war, but the expression is modified by the use of 'they' as well as describing a span of time throughout those. Either parent could have died during this time for any reason but didn't. 'Survived' is also descriptor of a difficult era throughout which someone lived and therefore did not die. Got it yet?
@@l.sophia2803 'Got it yet?' Perhaps not... Its this survial bit I am struggling with: 'My parents survived the depression and World War II' My parents survived the depression - the British depression. Was the US depression more dangerous to a person's well-being? Does anyone know? The Second World War ...The USA was in it for three and half years, with the enemy 3,000 miles from the US homeland. Britain was in it from the first day to the last day of the war, with the enemy 21 miles away for over four years, with Britain under fire from almost the start of the war until March 1945: The Battle of Britain, the Blitz, tip and run raids, the Baedeker Blitz, the Baby Blitz, the V1 campaign, the V2 campaign. The USA lost 400,000 out of a population of 131 million, Britain lost 450,000 out of a population of 46 million. Britain was blockaded for almost the entie length of the war. Perhaps there is a study as which civilians suffered more during the war?..Britons or Americans. This nkruse's father was in the US Army for three and a half years?.. Mine was in it for seven years. I would never have dared to use terms like 'the best generation' A generation or two later, Britons had their eyes and ears assaulted, when the BBC or ITV (I cannot remember which broadcaster) purchased 'The Winds off War'. Its all standard US fare. America this, America that, with the Americans portayed as the people who everyone else admires. Britons are shown in a seies of cliché characters: the old duffer, the English rose that falls for Robert Mitchum (as if), the 'cor blimey guv' Cockney, British officers being schooled by slick American professionals, and so on. All clear now?..
@@thevillaaston7811 : You can’t expect an American TV series not to focus on American characters. For an American TV show, the Winds of War does a great job of showing that WW2 started in September 1939, not in December 1941. Very few US TV shows acknowledge that fact. If you want a WW2 show about British characters, find a British TV production or movie.
"Are you well?" Talk about a masterpiece of understatement. My father was a career naval officer (enlisted in 34, went to Annapolis in 36 and received his commission in 40) and I have to tell you Robert Mitchum portrayed the character of a US naval officer of that era perfectly. Stoic, incisive, disciplined and superbly intelligent....and they could deliver a verbal dressing down that took a strip out of your hide without ever laying a hand on you. While I always liked Mitchum as an actor, it was this series and his exemplary portrayal of a naval officer that convinced me that he was truly one of cinema's greatest actors. Kudos Robert!!!
Well said. Everything that you wrote. My father was an air force officer..many similar qualities. Stoic, understated. And straight up hard, sharp, intelligent & determined. Beyond words, we're in that generation's debt. Robert Mitchum was an outstanding actor. He brought a quality of reality to his work that remains unique. Forever true. 🌹
Unfortunately, Pug ran aground the day he met his future wife. While her character provided a contrast for Wouk, the flawed spouse doesn't work in diplomatic circles. She would have been required to remain stateside while the Captain took on such a highly important and sensitive post. Flighty, loose-lipped, and alcoholic are not desirable attributes in a military or diplomatic wife. She's a character from Jane Austen.
I agree. I think Polly Bergen played Rhoda brilliantly as well, but they are an odd couple. Even reading the book I couldn’t imagine what Victor Henry saw in Rhoda Grover….flighty, temperamental and overly-chatty.
I so long for the days of epic mini series. This was one of my favorites. That and Shogun, War and Remembrance, Blue and the Grey , North and South , The Seekers. Great entertainment.
I love this mini series. My oldest uncle was in the Army CORPS of Engineers first to enter Buchenwald. My middle uncle in the Mighty 8th in England a Tail gunner in B-17s. My dad is a Korean War Vet USN
Michael cancer cannot survive with a carnivor diet. Meat, cheese, eggs, fish green LEAFY veggies, plain tea or coffee. Absolutely nothing else. AND ABSOLUTELY NO CHEATING....not even a little. I know someone with stage 4 lung cancer who went on this diet and the cancer was gone in 3 months. That was 6 years ago and Denis is still going strong. It's a bitch diet but it works.
Watching Winds of War, as well as War and Remembrance gives me an appreciation for this era that I didn't have before. My grandfather served in Pearl Harbor and my dad's town was bombed during WW2. When I think about how close both of them came to losing their lives, but BOTH survived, I'm in awe.
One of the best mini series ever. Watched it many times. Gives a great perspective of the war from many angles at a personal level. Great historical accounts of the key events too. A must see for WW 2 buffs.
The both series-Winds of War and War and Remembrance- are historically accurate and unbelievably well made! Excellent work, absolutely first class in all aspects!
actually not historically accurate. leave out inconvenient facts, like how when discussing "crimes" in this episode, they leave out how fascist poland invaded czechoslovakia with the germans( and hungarians) just a year before they got invaded themselves .
@@sitting_nutWW2 was incredibly complex; there’s no way that a TV miniseries could account for every complication. Winds and WR get more than a few details wrong, but the broad strokes are correct.
@@PaulGoodeK point i am making is not about "accounting for every complication", this is deliberate falsification of history, even in "broad strokes". and not specific to this show . almost all western shows portray poland as innocent victim of "crimes" of others, when they weren't. they were fascists who were collaborating with n germany, hungary, uk and france with aim of attacking ussr, after they collaborated with same to carve out czechoslovakia, year before. only to be the object of one of their collaborator's, when ussr/stalin turned the table to buy time and reclaim lands fascist poland has illegally annexed to itself after russian revolution. this german ussr pact is portrayed in show and elsewhere in west as either stalin getting conned or being ultra evil, when it was nothing of the kind. btw those lands stalin reclaomed are not part of poland even now. but are in ukraine and belorus; ie ussr did not carve out actual poland. by all means if they want to simplify, do that, but then don't moralize by portraying one party as innocent victims of "crimes" while claiming to be "historically accurate". results of such historical distortions propagandized as "accurate" and "correct" are never beneficial. could even result in west getting in to wars to help the "victim" . that they will lose with great loss of life..
For five seconds in my life I'd like to be as cool as Robert Mitchum is when he is, I don't know, tying his shoes or sharpening a pencil. Yeah, he's that cool. And the rest of us mortals...are not Robert Mitchum!
For people enjoying this series, I highly recommend reading the two books. It's quite a commitment--two thousand pages, if I recall correctly--but a wonderful experience. Strange as it seems, I remember regretting when the second book ended and hoped that it been even longer. .
> I would have enjoyed a sequel that explored the lives of Pug and Pamela in particular. Could have been "The Winds of War" "War and Remembrance" and "The Cold War". Pug would have had an important leadership position as the expansion of the United States into the American World Empire took place. And what about Byron and Natalie? Lots of loose ends!
I marvel at the production of these series . So well done, I was very little at this era,, and truly enjoyed looking at these beautiful series, and learning more and more of the facts, though I guess parts are exaturated , I know one fact, I am enjoying these series, thank u very much.
Polly Bergen plays an excellent Rhoda. She is a bored self centered individual. She cares more about her perfect hair and clothes etc than she does about reality.
This is one of the greatest World War II historic series ever uploaded on RUclips! The actors are a brilliant selection that make the action as real as it can get. The combined episodes are magnificent! Thanks a million to all involved making this realistic, historic video's!
Its not that historical. There were many more isolationist American's. As well as British. There were many protest marches to no go to war and accept peace deals before and after Dunkique
Another WW2 movie with Robert Mitchum that I enjoyed was "Heaven knows Mr Allison. In it he plays the survivor of a ship sinking, who finds himself stranded with a nun (played by Deborah Kerr) on a Japanese held island in the Pacific.
I loved that movie, first one I ever saw with Mitchum, have had a crush on him ever since! He was also in The Enemy Below a sub movie with Curt Jurgens!
Dad joined the RAF in 1940....moved into Aircrew on Wellington bombers, shot down Oct 1942, 27 missions, near Tobruk Rest of war in prison camp in mostly Poland. Thereafter trained as a teacher and head teacher until retirement
As you know, your father had some of the most dangerous duty in the war. The mortality rate in the early part of the war for British bombing crews in Europe was 70%. I doubt that it was much different in Africa. He deserves every bit of respect that he received and more.
I may have published this before; the novels winds of war and war and remembrance as well as the film versions of both should be required reading and viewing before high school graduation!!!!!
Exactly! I was just thinking the same thing. This series with questions and answers. I'm amazed at how well everyone mixed in before the actual war hit. How casual even as many saw it coming. Quite a bit like now.
It’s the producers the directors the whole team work Hard to find the people with great depth- today’s era is all about guns and violence and immorality 😢
My Father use to go crabbing and fishing w8th Robert Mitchum and Burt Lancaster! Got pics.....they were a Great Generation! I miss my Father, Mother and my Grandfather and my Uncle Jack who was killed in WW2 in a Sherman Tank! I Love Them All....Thank you!
Paying more attention this time watching the series. Now I understand how we DID KNOW what was going on in Europe (thru our Envoys, Ambassadors, news correspondants, etc) - AND STILL WE DID NOTHING.
Many well meaning people ( the good I suppose) failed to name names and events as you are doing now. Evil reigns when good people do nothing. That will never change!
I think a study of autocracies should be required in high school. Everyone should understand how the takeover occurs, what are the signs and perils of Fascism, etc. Making it to 16 years of age without understanding the Reichstag fire should be rare, not the other way around.
Ya, Robert Mitchum seems like he wasn’t even acting, also about this greatest generation, they were understated, these dudes storm Normandy & take down the Krout War Machine then go home & mow their lawn first day back, dads today would have selfie Sticks out on the beach & then start a podcast to tell everyone what a Hero they were when some dude like Mitchum saved his frightened ass!!!
It was Russia that dismantled the German war machine, at tremendous cost in lives. We had to rush to get to Berlin AFTER they did, just to keep them from keeping most of Europe. America did do the most to defeat the Japanese, though by VJ Day, Russia had placed forces around Asia, hoping for territorial gain. Not to mention the secret that the bomb was used the way it was in Japan not so much to convince Japan to surrender, but to keep the USSR from taking over most of Asia after VJ Day.
The dynamic between Pug and Rhoda is brilliant. The deep, reflective, disciplined gravitas of the man of few words, with the heavy burden of responsibility on his shoulders, matched with the frivolous, skittish and outspoken socialite. During his long pensive silences, with his ears ringing from a ceaseless torrent of trivia, I keep expecting him to suddenly call permanent time on it… but he never does. Never mind about the many years’ military service and navigating the perils of wartime politics… that my friends is fortitude.
First I read the book By Hermaan Wouk, and could not believe it when it became a Film, the acting is brlilliant, If you have not read the book it is well worth it. It reads the Jews journey as a section of the story intermingled with the war in small letters and while the war is raging in large letters so it becomes two stories in one. heavy reading.
@Lasse Riise I think that you have that exactly correct. I grew up very poor with not even indoor plumbing but I know most of my generation were not that way and had most every convenience. Today's generation? Except for a very few bright spots,; forget it.
God Bless the "World's Greatest Generation" may we never forget that "Freedom is not Free" and that the very foundation of our own country is Freedom of Speech. I pray that we never try to civilize war, nor try to pollitically correct it, for us all, we must keep it ugly and unacceptable. Have a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, God Bless everyone and all my brothers and sisters Veterans. 1776
The way Pug points his fingers You can tell he’s used to giving orders in real life. Isn’t that Rhoda nuts I mean for a military wife. My daughter is married to a colonel and I know it’s tuff and she’s complained a little to me but would never be like this with her husband in a foreign country, especially on the brink of war. How awful she acts.?
I originally watched this way back when it was on network TV and I've yet over all these years found anyone that likes Rhoda me included. I will give Herman Wouk credit though because this was such a different time in America. It was a very misogynistic time and children couldn't even leave home without a parent's permission until they were 21. Present politics aside I would like to think that we have moved somewhat past that for the better. BTW. How many married couples don't have tiffs from time to time 🥰🥰
@@thehangmancometh1813 Nah he was addicted to drugs & alcohol, lost part of his leg to an infection and died of cardiac arrest. He was fortunate to be one of those actors who didn't have to say much but just looked good on screen. Similar to the likes of John Wayne or Steve McQueen.
@@redrb26dett Airwolf eventually got cancelled because Jan was getting into bar brawls and getting himself arrested. Probably drink and drugs related at the time.
My oldest uncle was a marine in the 4th division and he landed on Guam and Iwo Jima. He would say things about Guam, but not Iwo Jima. He suffered from ptsd and my aunt mentioned how she would find my Uncle crawling on the floor. He was also a scout/sniper along with every thing else.
In 1967 - over 20 years AFTER the war, the English people were still suffering. They still bought groceries as if they were on rations. Half a cucumber, half a loaf of bread, 2 or 4 pounds of coal to eat & cook with, half an orange to be split among 3 children, half a tomato & lettuce, 4 ounces meat for 3 adults & 3 children (had to feed granny too). I found it insufferable. I ordered a tonne of coal to heat for the winter - had to get rid of the condensation running down the walls somehow. I bought a WHOLE turkey October, 10 lbs of potatoes (not one lone one for the pot), 10 lbs of onions & carrots, large steaks - had to teach the butcher how to cut them even - I could not fill up on stodge. I needed real food. More than just starches. I'd buy 2 dozen oranges & on my way home I would hand them out to the children & HELP them peel them, BECAUSE if they took them home they would only get 2 or 3 segments. This is REMEMBRANCE after the war. These children's parents, barely in their 20s, knew nothing else.
This is the same as many Jews. I lived in Jerusalem, Israel from 1980-90's. There are hospitals for Holocaust survivors who cannot care for themselves. An orderly there told me even though they get 3 meals a day and snacks in between, some can still be seen having escaped and have jumped into the garbage bins and are eating scraps as if they are starving . SAD.
A beautiful and productive life. And a good man, who gave credit to his wife for turning him from being a comedy writer into a fantastic historical novelist.
@@TheEriekayaker I'm starting to read WAR AND REMEMBRANCE for the first time. It's a huge book, 99 chapters long; WINDS OF WAR was only 64 chapters long.
One historical inaccuracy I noticed is the bit about Mussolini not speaking English. He learned English & French, possibly while studying in Switzerland. Also, he may have fought alongside British troops during WWI. There's a video of him making one of his famous harangues in English from a balcony.
El Duce didn't need an interpreter during the Munich talks, in 1938. Benito Mussolini was flawed, of course, but he wasn't stupid. Which makes his allowing himself to be tied to Hitler even more difficult to fathom.
I believe many world leaders, though they can speak several languages, will demand the conversation be conducted in their, or another, language not native to the person with whom they are speaking. This is a power move that puts the other person on edge. Remember, this is a very unusual meeting between a head of state and a non-credentialed emissary of another country.
For me one of the most moving but understated moments occurred Episode 1 at the event where Hitler was toasted. General von Roon refused to raise his glass, and Captain Henry seeing that refused to raise his glass as did the British journalist and his gorgeous daughter Pamela. (goofy Rhoda raised hers) Gen von Roon was a courageous man, played magnificently by Jeremy Kemp. A patriotic German who had no use for Hitler, who defined himself as a conservative monarchist. There were Germans like him who were sucked into Hitler's machine. One of the first stories I wrote after I finished journalism school was about a Dutch family who took in a teenage Jewish girl who had a job in a factory being managed by a German. The German warned the girl about how close the Nazis were getting to possibly arresting her.
Traditionally, there were many in the German Army who did not buy Naziism and did not care for Hitler at all. They were honorable men and decent human beings who saw Hitler for what he was, a maniacal sociopath who by the accident of time and place gained power he should never have achieved.
Many of Germany's senior officers did not like the national socialist dictatorship,but the army had collectively taken an oath of loyalty to Hitler and many of those officers saw that oath as being sacred.
@@josfitz The German élite sponsored and bankrolled Hitler and his Party. Without the support of top industrialists and bankers he'd never have been able to run for office. Once he had been installed, any would-be'socialists' in his Party were soon disposed of: he wasn't going to interfere with the social status-quo.
What an incredible Treasure this classic masterpiece is! I have no doubts it will still stand up beautifully 100 years from now, if the World hasn't been turned into a smoldering Radioactive Flag Pile. The more the younger generations become fascinated with intentionally erasing history, refusing to learn history, and/or intentionally altering history to what might seem pleasant instead of what are, at times,hard, uncomfortable, and unpleasant truths and the lessons and warnings they have to offer, the more assured we are to repeat the exact same devastating mistakes of the past. Hopefully the younger generations who believe themselves to be so very entitled, smarter than all, sheep people, or Sheeple, too lazy to even formulate their own unique thoughts and opinions, we will soon face another world war that will ultimately destroy all life as we know it today, guaranteed!
Yose Mite What kind of human would even SAY that? In a nuclear war, whole cities will be "cannon fodder". What "Front Lines" do you expect to be sending the youth off to?
25:00 that rant by Hitler I believe is a word-for-word quote of his real-life rants. In fact I think all the Hitler utterances in this series are from actual history.
Hitler wasn't like that try history visualised he takes his information from German archives and he is very unbiased and a German so he understands the literature and as a great grasp of the English language so is able to translate it verbatim
@alex carter - to use actual dialog by Hitler seems very much like something Wouk would have done. It would very much surprise me if what you said was not exactly true.
Wow! Security for that party was HEAVY! A dozen or so armed men watching arrivals with what was probably some kind of senior officer reviewing the paperwork of those arriving.
The actor playing Hitler does a wonderful job of conveying the effects of Hitler's growing drug addiction. In the next series he conveys the effects of meth well.
Hitler is often depicted as a decadent hateful hippie in uniform. Few know that he was a hardened soldier that often volunteered in the trenches of WWI. Not the man you want to lead a country, but with desperation of the 20`s germany, they would settle for anyone it seems. Extremely sad history after that.. Let us hope nothing like it ever happens in our lifetime.
Was a very realistic portrayal of the upheaval the war caused. My parents had a bunch of married friends who were all part of the WW2 generation. My parents were the only couple of that group who had known each other before Pearl Harbor. All the rest met because the men were stationed here and there, where they met their wives.
Even though I've watched this serIes many times over the years, I just noticed that Stoller refers to Goering as Reichsmarschall at the party in December 1939. But in real life, Goering didn't have that rank until July 1940.
Yes. And I think Goering laid out the foundations for the labor and death camps. Not sure of it, but I think that was brought out in the Nuremberg Trials
You misunderstood - she's acting perfectly, but the character she's playing is indeed insufferable. And Rhoda will become even worse, the only one who doesn't want to slap her in the face is Pug (and Byron, okay - but he doesn't have a plan at all ^^). Interesting, there are lots of comments on the actors, but very few on the content. Too hard for today's people, I guess... - I am a German and I'm watching the whole thing now for a second time, and it makes me far beyond sad and still some kind of ashamed what 'my' people have done at that time. And watch out - nowadays, 80 years later, at least some tendencies towards that direction are coming back to life in Germany. And not only there...
Stoller makes a script mistake at around 15:40: He refers to Goering as a Reichsmarschall, but Goering wasn't promoted to that rank until July 19, 1940 - after France was defeated.
43:15 I am reminded that I have heard there is a Russian saying: If you see a Nazi sitting at a table with 7 other people, you are seeing 8 Nazis sitting at a table.
greatest WW2 tv series ever by far they covered all parts of WW2 which is rare nowadays in 2022 everything is rush rush in this terrible movie industry now
Rhoda, in all her flightiness, is there to serve as a foil for Pug. Without her, Captain Henry might just come off as an uninteresting mule slogging through his work.
The music in this movie is classically perfect of the time. It's near tragic how the American people in 1938-40 felt so completely comfortable from the threat looming in front of them. Both my parents and, by extension, all the other adults around commented that the US was essentially asleep as the "literal winds of war" increasing intensity. That period was truly the end of innocent for the USA. My parents, all the others, were the greatest generation. All, and I mean everything we have today is because of them.
I don't get it; the cast make reference after reference as to how beautiful Natalie is. Huh? They have got to be kidding. Ali McGraw is no beauty. Sure, casting could have gone a lot worse, but beautiful? No way!
I do agree with you about Ali McGraw being cast as Natalie, in my view, she was too old for the part, totally miscast and in this instance her acting was poor and over the top.
@@gillianlawlor868 Though youthful, Ali was close to 50 at this time. Plus Jan M. Vincent was also 40+ Poor casting. The episodes ONLY warm up a bit when there are some lukewarm love scenes.
Jan-Michael Vincent was 39, and Ali was 44 when they made this TV mini series. Hart Bochner and Jane Seymour were better actors and closer in age to the characters they played.
11:41-12:41 this scene would be repeated in part 11 of WAR AND REMEMBRANCE in which Hitler's generals were summoned by him to discuss strategy for the upcoming Battle of the Bulge in December 1944 exactly five years to the day after Captain Henry was invited to a ball at Goering's estate at Karinhall. It would be minus the footage with Pug and Luigi Gianelli however. The stock footage from this video for part 11 of W&R was tinted gray I guess to make it slightly different from from part 3 of WoW to make viewers to think it was new footage.
I enjoy this miniseries to no end. The real drawback for me and I don't know if others feel this way, is that the roles of Jan-Michael Vincent and Ali McGraw are played up so much that it detracts from the overall story. They are in way too many scenes whereas the other fine actors are ignored. I can actually see why they were let go prior to war and remembrance and replaced. The other problem that I have is that if there had been a real pug Henry then after his visit with FDR, he would immediately been promoted to Captain rather than Commander because FDR was well known for this type of behavior.
Interesting that Gianelli’s tact with Mussolini, (lavish praise, hyperbole, and repeated use of his name), was also recommended for a more recent head of state.
This movie has excellent Actors and It is very Realistic, VERY WELL DONE 👏👏👏❤️
You can definitely feel the fear and the stupidity and it is very scary in a lot of ways because this is the current climate of the world.
@@tiffanygrever8092 you retards realize this was a mini series made for tv.?
Ali McGraw is a terrible actress, but the rest were superb. And btw, Trump just won the election.😅
I totally agree that they were the best generation. I love this mini series I’ve watched it many times. My parents survived the depression and World War II, my dad was a foot soldier in the Army, and made it 7 months on the front lines. Survived 3 battles and was a part of freeing Buchenwald Concentration camp. They just lived every day to it’s fullest and viewed life as a gift. They viewed money very different than we do today. They were amazing and I miss them both so much!!
I would like to thank your family for their service. My Dad was in the Navy during World War II, he didn't speak much about it to me.
'My parents survived the depression and World War II'
But the USA was 3,000 miles from the nearest enemy. What was the danger to your mother?
@@thevillaaston7811 If English isnt your first language, I can understand your question. Not everyone survived the Great Depression. You can read about it for yourself. Their father survived the war, but the expression is modified by the use of 'they' as well as describing a span of time throughout those. Either parent could have died during this time for any reason but didn't. 'Survived' is also descriptor of a difficult era throughout which someone lived and therefore did not die. Got it yet?
@@l.sophia2803
'Got it yet?'
Perhaps not...
Its this survial bit I am struggling with: 'My parents survived the depression and World War II'
My parents survived the depression - the British depression. Was the US depression more dangerous to a person's well-being? Does anyone know?
The Second World War ...The USA was in it for three and half years, with the enemy 3,000 miles from the US homeland. Britain was in it from the first day to the last day of the war, with the enemy 21 miles away for over four years, with Britain under fire from almost the start of the war until March 1945: The Battle of Britain, the Blitz, tip and run raids, the Baedeker Blitz, the Baby Blitz, the V1 campaign, the V2 campaign. The USA lost 400,000 out of a population of 131 million, Britain lost 450,000 out of a population of 46 million. Britain was blockaded for almost the entie length of the war. Perhaps there is a study as which civilians suffered more during the war?..Britons or Americans.
This nkruse's father was in the US Army for three and a half years?.. Mine was in it for seven years. I would never have dared to use terms like 'the best generation'
A generation or two later, Britons had their eyes and ears assaulted, when the BBC or ITV (I cannot remember which broadcaster) purchased 'The Winds off War'. Its all standard US fare. America this, America that, with the Americans portayed as the people who everyone else admires. Britons are shown in a seies of cliché characters: the old duffer, the English rose that falls for Robert Mitchum (as if), the 'cor blimey guv' Cockney, British officers being schooled by slick American professionals, and so on.
All clear now?..
@@thevillaaston7811 : You can’t expect an American TV series not to focus on American characters. For an American TV show, the Winds of War does a great job of showing that WW2 started in September 1939, not in December 1941. Very few US TV shows acknowledge that fact.
If you want a WW2 show about British characters, find a British TV production or movie.
"Are you well?" Talk about a masterpiece of understatement. My father was a career naval officer (enlisted in 34, went to Annapolis in 36 and received his commission in 40) and I have to tell you Robert Mitchum portrayed the character of a US naval officer of that era perfectly. Stoic, incisive, disciplined and superbly intelligent....and they could deliver a verbal dressing down that took a strip out of your hide without ever laying a hand on you. While I always liked Mitchum as an actor, it was this series and his exemplary portrayal of a naval officer that convinced me that he was truly one of cinema's greatest actors. Kudos Robert!!!
Well said. Everything that you wrote. My father was an air force officer..many similar qualities. Stoic, understated. And straight up hard, sharp, intelligent & determined.
Beyond words, we're in that generation's debt.
Robert Mitchum was an outstanding actor. He brought a quality of reality to his work that remains unique. Forever true.
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Unfortunately, Pug ran aground the day he met his future wife. While her character provided a contrast for Wouk, the flawed spouse doesn't work in diplomatic circles. She would have been required to remain stateside while the Captain took on such a highly important and sensitive post. Flighty, loose-lipped, and alcoholic are not desirable attributes in a military or diplomatic wife. She's a character from Jane Austen.
@@tomcat4841 She doesn't realize all her friends are criminals
I agree. I think Polly Bergen played Rhoda brilliantly as well, but they are an odd couple. Even reading the book I couldn’t imagine what Victor Henry saw in Rhoda Grover….flighty, temperamental and overly-chatty.
...my dad was a 22 year Navy pilot...I agree, mitchum pulls it off as well as I've...seen...
I so long for the days of epic mini series. This was one of my favorites. That and Shogun, War and Remembrance, Blue and the Grey , North and South , The Seekers. Great entertainment.
Murder One.
I also miss the mini series. I grew up watching them. They were entertaining and educational.
I was totally engrossed by “Centennial”.
Yes that was when tv was good entertainment. No more.
@@merriedge8186 Ditto that same here.
The best you can find in RUclips , thank you for sharing
What a great series; I am thoroughly enjoying it. Mitchum was just a great actor, an Herman Wouk a great historical writer.
Watching in 2023 I remember watching with my mum and dad back in the day forgot how good this series was so big at the time
I love this mini series. My oldest uncle was in the Army CORPS of Engineers first to enter Buchenwald. My middle uncle in the Mighty 8th in England a Tail gunner in B-17s. My dad is a Korean War Vet USN
Both your dad and uncle were heroes if it weren’t for men like them we wouldn’t enjoy the freedoms that we have today.
I'm watching this while going through chemotherapy, such an epic mini series. Thank you for posting 🙏
May you have a speedy recovery.
I hope you are doing well.
Prayers for you in the name of Jesus I’m gonna say a prayer for you now in Jesus name.
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Michael cancer cannot survive with a carnivor diet. Meat, cheese, eggs, fish green LEAFY veggies, plain tea or coffee. Absolutely nothing else. AND ABSOLUTELY NO CHEATING....not even a little. I know someone with stage 4 lung cancer who went on this diet and the cancer was gone in 3 months. That was 6 years ago and Denis is still going strong. It's a bitch diet but it works.
Watching Winds of War, as well as War and Remembrance gives me an appreciation for this era that I didn't have before. My grandfather served in Pearl Harbor and my dad's town was bombed during WW2. When I think about how close both of them came to losing their lives, but BOTH survived, I'm in awe.
One of the best mini series ever. Watched it many times. Gives a great perspective of the war from many angles at a personal level. Great historical accounts of the key events too. A must see for WW 2 buffs.
The both series-Winds of War and War and Remembrance- are historically accurate and unbelievably well made! Excellent work, absolutely first class in all aspects!
We will never know if there accurate.
actually not historically accurate. leave out inconvenient facts, like how when discussing "crimes" in this episode, they leave out how fascist poland invaded czechoslovakia with the germans( and hungarians) just a year before they got invaded themselves .
@@sitting_nutWW2 was incredibly complex; there’s no way that a TV miniseries could account for every complication. Winds and WR get more than a few details wrong, but the broad strokes are correct.
@@PaulGoodeK point i am making is not about "accounting for every complication", this is deliberate falsification of history, even in "broad strokes". and not specific to this show . almost all western shows portray poland as innocent victim of "crimes" of others, when they weren't. they were fascists who were collaborating with n germany, hungary, uk and france with aim of attacking ussr, after they collaborated with same to carve out czechoslovakia, year before. only to be the object of one of their collaborator's, when ussr/stalin turned the table to buy time and reclaim lands fascist poland has illegally annexed to itself after russian revolution. this german ussr pact is portrayed in show and elsewhere in west as either stalin getting conned or being ultra evil, when it was nothing of the kind. btw those lands stalin reclaomed are not part of poland even now. but are in ukraine and belorus; ie ussr did not carve out actual poland.
by all means if they want to simplify, do that, but then don't moralize by portraying one party as innocent victims of "crimes" while claiming to be "historically accurate". results of such historical distortions propagandized as "accurate" and "correct" are never beneficial. could even result in west getting in to wars to help the "victim" . that they will lose with great loss of life..
I watch this series every 2 months. Addicting. Still as good as when i saw it first.
Yes,once you,re hooked.
Stalingrad Heritage:. Thank you so much for posting this! Brilliant.
This mini series is epic.
These series are true a masterpiece,
ROTFL
@@thevillaaston7811 MORON ALERT
Fabulously made series / Mitchum at his Best 👍🤪 amongst many others etc cheers. & thanks for all these 🍷🌈
For five seconds in my life I'd like to be as cool as Robert Mitchum is when he is, I don't know, tying his shoes or sharpening a pencil. Yeah, he's that cool. And the rest of us mortals...are not Robert Mitchum!
His coolness is not matchable 😅
For people enjoying this series, I highly recommend reading the two books. It's quite a commitment--two thousand pages, if I recall correctly--but a wonderful experience. Strange as it seems, I remember regretting when the second book ended and hoped that it been even longer. .
You are so right. I read them when they first came out. For my money,the book is always better.....
Books were great! So glad Wouk adapted YWoW himself.
I’m reading them and watching the movies!
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I would have enjoyed a sequel that explored the lives of Pug and Pamela in particular.
Could have been "The Winds of War"
"War and Remembrance"
and "The Cold War".
Pug would have had an important leadership position as the expansion of the United States into the American World Empire took place.
And what about Byron and Natalie? Lots of loose ends!
Agree 100%!
Some of the best books I have ever read in my life!! 😊
I marvel at the production of these series . So well done, I was very little at this era,, and truly enjoyed looking at these beautiful series, and learning more and more of the facts, though I guess parts are exaturated ,
I know one fact, I am enjoying these series, thank u very much.
Polly Bergen plays an excellent Rhoda. She is a bored self centered individual. She cares more about her perfect hair and clothes etc than she does about reality.
Well, it's a type and Polly did GREAT at portraying one.
This is one of the greatest World War II historic series ever uploaded on RUclips! The actors are a brilliant selection that make the action as real as it can get. The combined episodes are magnificent! Thanks a million to all involved making this realistic, historic video's!
Hey there saw you comment in a vivaldi video and now here
I remember watching it when I was 8 and quite liking it, not loving it, but I always remembered it. Now I think it's fantastic
Its not that historical. There were many more isolationist American's. As well as British. There were many protest marches to no go to war and accept peace deals before and after Dunkique
@@ozdavemcgee2079 What about after Pearl Harbor?
@@josfitz does anybody of you american guys have a clue, what happened in SO Asia? I guess ZERO
This is an excellent series. I have watched it several times!
Robert Mitchum is a great actor as well as handsome.Love this film have watched it several times.
This a good supply of a character driven cast...always there are some we like, some that irritate, etc.
Another WW2 movie with Robert Mitchum that I enjoyed was "Heaven knows Mr Allison. In it he plays the survivor of a ship sinking, who finds himself stranded with a nun (played by Deborah Kerr) on a Japanese held island in the Pacific.
I loved that movie, first one I ever saw with Mitchum, have had a crush on him ever since! He was also in The Enemy Below a sub movie with Curt Jurgens!
Great film
Great and entertaining film.
@@nhmooytis7058 Yet another great one. Always saw Mitchum as the dad I'd pick if I couldn't have the one I had.
@@guyjohnson259 me too!
Dad joined the RAF in 1940....moved into Aircrew on Wellington bombers, shot down Oct 1942, 27 missions, near Tobruk
Rest of war in prison camp in mostly Poland.
Thereafter trained as a teacher and head teacher until retirement
As you know, your father had some of the most dangerous duty in the war. The mortality rate in the early part of the war for British bombing crews in Europe was 70%. I doubt that it was much different in Africa. He deserves every bit of respect that he received and more.
Many thanks and much respect to your dad if it weren’t for heroes like him we would enjoy the freedoms that we have today.
wasn't it a Wellington bomber that Pug Henry got to ride on in the later episode?
A lovely Episode--the song coming in the midst of a world war and the smooth entry into the Submarine School of the young man!
I may have published this before; the novels winds of war and war and remembrance as well as the film versions of both should be required reading and viewing before high school graduation!!!!!
Exactly! I was just thinking the same thing. This series with questions and answers. I'm amazed at how well everyone mixed in before the actual war hit. How casual even as many saw it coming. Quite a bit like now.
Totally agree!!!!
Agree as well! I was a history major in college and learned things from the Wouk books I wasn’t taught!
It’s the producers the directors the whole team work
Hard to find the people with great depth- today’s era is all about guns and violence and immorality 😢
My Father use to go crabbing and fishing w8th Robert Mitchum and Burt Lancaster!
Got pics.....they were a Great Generation!
I miss my Father, Mother and my Grandfather and my Uncle Jack who was killed in WW2 in a Sherman Tank!
I Love Them All....Thank you!
Bob and Burt, 2 great actors!
@@nhmooytis7058 how did your father get to know them? When did he first meet them?
@@67nairb I think you meant to ask OP.
@@nhmooytis7058 Who's OP?
@@67nairb original poster.
Paying more attention this time watching the series. Now I understand how we DID KNOW what was going on in Europe (thru our Envoys, Ambassadors, news correspondants, etc) - AND STILL WE DID NOTHING.
The American right...which is doing the same thing in the face of Russian aggression against Ukraine. They haven't learned a thing.
The themes in WoW are just as relevant now as they were 80 years ago. Certain elements are scary in how similar they are to some current events.
Ummm sure but WoW is set in WWII so why would I? 🤷🏼
Real Thailand does your mom know you’re on the internet? 😂
@@ronniebishop2496 nope people are the same
Many well meaning people ( the good I suppose) failed to name names and events as you are doing now. Evil reigns when good people do nothing. That will never change!
I think a study of autocracies should be required in high school. Everyone should understand how the takeover occurs, what are the signs and perils of Fascism, etc. Making it to 16 years of age without understanding the Reichstag fire should be rare, not the other way around.
What a great mini-series
Excellent tv series. Thank you for uploading the episodes.
Ya, Robert Mitchum seems like he wasn’t even acting, also about this greatest generation, they were understated, these dudes storm Normandy & take down the Krout War Machine then go home & mow their lawn first day back, dads today would have selfie Sticks out on the beach & then start a podcast to tell everyone what a Hero they were when some dude like Mitchum saved his frightened ass!!!
So very true.
We disgrace these great men with how we've allowed our great nation to be destroyed.
Mitchum didn't serve in WWII. Wouk, on the other hand, served on minesweepers. The Wikipedia about him is interesting reading.
It was Russia that dismantled the German war machine, at tremendous cost in lives. We had to rush to get to Berlin AFTER they did, just to keep them from keeping most of Europe.
America did do the most to defeat the Japanese, though by VJ Day, Russia had placed forces around Asia, hoping for territorial gain.
Not to mention the secret that the bomb was used the way it was in Japan not so much to convince Japan to surrender, but to keep the USSR from taking over most of Asia after VJ Day.
Watching Pug in near despair at having to watch the horror that Germany had become was a masterpiece of acting by Mitchum
The dynamic between Pug and Rhoda is brilliant. The deep, reflective, disciplined gravitas of the man of few words, with the heavy burden of responsibility on his shoulders, matched with the frivolous, skittish and outspoken socialite. During his long pensive silences, with his ears ringing from a ceaseless torrent of trivia, I keep expecting him to suddenly call permanent time on it… but he never does. Never mind about the many years’ military service and navigating the perils of wartime politics… that my friends is fortitude.
First I read the book By Hermaan Wouk, and could not believe it when it became a Film, the acting is brlilliant, If you have not read the book it is well worth it.
It reads the Jews journey as a section of the story intermingled with the war in small letters and while the war is raging in large letters so it becomes two stories in one. heavy reading.
Robert Mitchum is so much like my late father......that was the Greatest Generation.
@Lasse Riise I think that you have that exactly correct. I grew up very poor with not even indoor plumbing but I know most of my generation were not that way and had most every convenience. Today's generation? Except for a very few bright spots,; forget it.
So was my dad, of that generation. They really came through for us, didn't they. And now look what we have, a draft-dodging, lying crook.
@@TheEriekayaker You've got that right; I hope somehow it will all catch up with him.
Did your dad LOOK like Mitchum? My dad was a carbon copy.
@@williamsnyder5616 Nope.....Dad was a little fella but classy as hell if he wanted to be and saw it all in the Pacific.
God Bless the "World's Greatest Generation" may we never forget that "Freedom is not Free" and that the very foundation of our own country is Freedom of Speech. I pray that we never try to civilize war, nor try to pollitically correct it, for us all, we must keep it ugly and unacceptable. Have a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, God Bless everyone and all my brothers and sisters Veterans. 1776
Who was the "World's Greatest Generation"?..
The way Pug points his fingers You can tell he’s used to giving orders in real life. Isn’t that Rhoda nuts I mean for a military wife. My daughter is married to a colonel and I know it’s tuff and she’s complained a little to me but would never be like this with her husband in a foreign country, especially on the brink of war. How awful she acts.?
I originally watched this way back when it was on network TV and I've yet over all these years found anyone that likes Rhoda me included. I will give Herman Wouk credit though because this was such a different time in America. It was a very misogynistic time and children couldn't even leave home without a parent's permission until they were 21.
Present politics aside I would like to think that we have moved somewhat past that for the better. BTW. How many married couples don't have tiffs from time to time 🥰🥰
Doug Ohaver Yes Rhoda’s character achieves what they wanted to the T in fact they all did.
Yes , a very unflattering role for Miss Bergen
Rhoda should have stayed on the Mary Tyler Moore Show. How dare she run off with Robert Mtichum....
I love the way Pug breaks into Italian and German! They thought he didn't understand what they were saying!
Thank you so much for this great miniseries!
Jan- Micheal Vincent (Byron) had great presence, such a shame how life panned out for him. RIP
yeah, really sad> didn't he get the old big gay A or something?
True still waiting for Dom to turn up with airwolf so he can beat the Germans single handed
@@thehangmancometh1813 Nah he was addicted to drugs & alcohol, lost part of his leg to an infection and died of cardiac arrest. He was fortunate to be one of those actors who didn't have to say much but just looked good on screen. Similar to the likes of John Wayne or Steve McQueen.
@@redrb26dett Airwolf eventually got cancelled because Jan was getting into bar brawls and getting himself arrested. Probably drink and drugs related at the time.
@@TheBlackcular agree with you on Steve McQueen but Wayne showed he could act as he showed in true grit
Still Powerful and Meaninful in the 21st Century
I forgot how hungry all the eating in this miniseries always makes me😂
My oldest uncle was a marine in the
4th division and he landed on Guam
and Iwo Jima. He would say things about Guam, but not Iwo Jima. He
suffered from ptsd and my aunt
mentioned how she would find my
Uncle crawling on the floor. He was
also a scout/sniper along with every
thing else.
The epic soundtrack music is blissful!
I Love this movie, Thank you for making it possible ❤👏👏👏
Actually, Goering, was a lover of OTHER PEOPLE'S PROPERTY!
It's funny how the characters refer to him as "Goring". Clearly they did not grow up with umlauts.
He's down with OPP
@Lasse Riise Cute, what was trying to take over the world and the murder of one-half of the world's Jews? You might want to rethink your post.
In 1967 - over 20 years AFTER the war, the English people were still suffering. They still bought groceries as if they were on rations. Half a cucumber, half a loaf of bread, 2 or 4 pounds of coal to eat & cook with, half an orange to be split among 3 children, half a tomato & lettuce, 4 ounces meat for 3 adults & 3 children (had to feed granny too).
I found it insufferable. I ordered a tonne of coal to heat for the winter - had to get rid of the condensation running down the walls somehow. I bought a WHOLE turkey October, 10 lbs of potatoes (not one lone one for the pot), 10 lbs of onions & carrots, large steaks - had to teach the butcher how to cut them even - I could not fill up on stodge. I needed real food. More than just starches. I'd buy 2 dozen oranges & on my way home I would hand them out to the children & HELP them peel them, BECAUSE if they took them home they would only get 2 or 3 segments. This is REMEMBRANCE after the war. These children's parents, barely in their 20s, knew nothing else.
Maybe they will not declare war on others again after that.
@@yosemite735 I assume you would rater live under Nazi rule...
This is the same as many Jews. I lived in Jerusalem, Israel from 1980-90's. There are hospitals for Holocaust survivors who cannot care for themselves. An orderly there told me even though they get 3 meals a day and snacks in between, some can still be seen having escaped and have jumped into the garbage bins and are eating scraps as if they are starving . SAD.
that is the effect of british lossing their barbaric empire and loss of looting of others' resources.
What a truly Great series, to think that this is the Greatness our media & Hollywood once was, it's so sad to see the sewer it has become today.
In case you haven't heard, Herman Wouk, author, of the Winds of War died about a week and a half ago. He was 103.
A beautiful and productive life. And a good man, who gave credit to his wife for turning him from being a comedy writer into a fantastic historical novelist.
@@TheEriekayaker yup have you read WINDS OF WAR & WAR REMEMBRANCE?
@@67nairb yes
@@TheEriekayaker I'm starting to read WAR AND REMEMBRANCE for the first time. It's a huge book, 99 chapters long; WINDS OF WAR was only 64 chapters long.
brian sedlock THANKS. I HAVE 3 OF HIS BOOKS. AWESOME STORY TELLING
One historical inaccuracy I noticed is the bit about Mussolini not speaking English. He learned English & French, possibly while studying in Switzerland. Also, he may have fought alongside British troops during WWI. There's a video of him making one of his famous harangues in English from a balcony.
El Duce didn't need an interpreter during the Munich talks, in 1938.
Benito Mussolini was flawed, of course, but he wasn't stupid.
Which makes his allowing himself to be tied to Hitler even more difficult to fathom.
I believe many world leaders, though they can speak several languages, will demand the conversation be conducted in their, or another, language not native to the person with whom they are speaking. This is a power move that puts the other person on edge.
Remember, this is a very unusual meeting between a head of state and a non-credentialed emissary of another country.
“Public opinion doesn’t just change, it is manufactured”. That german had some real insight. People would be wise to see that now.
For me one of the most moving but understated moments occurred Episode 1 at the event where Hitler was toasted. General von Roon refused to raise his glass, and Captain Henry seeing that refused to raise his glass as did the British journalist and his gorgeous daughter Pamela. (goofy Rhoda raised hers) Gen von Roon was a courageous man, played magnificently by Jeremy Kemp. A patriotic German who had no use for Hitler, who defined himself as a conservative monarchist. There were Germans like him who were sucked into Hitler's machine. One of the first stories I wrote after I finished journalism school was about a Dutch family who took in a teenage Jewish girl who had a job in a factory being managed by a German. The German warned the girl about how close the Nazis were getting to possibly arresting her.
Traditionally, there were many in the German Army who did not buy Naziism and did not care for Hitler at all. They were honorable men and decent human beings who saw Hitler for what he was, a maniacal sociopath who by the accident of time and place gained power he should never have achieved.
Many of Germany's senior officers did not like the national socialist dictatorship,but the army had collectively taken an oath of loyalty to Hitler and many of those officers saw that oath as being sacred.
@@josfitz The German élite sponsored and bankrolled Hitler and his Party. Without the support of top industrialists and bankers he'd never have been able to run for office. Once he had been installed, any would-be'socialists' in his Party were soon disposed of: he wasn't going to interfere with the social status-quo.
I met Jeremy Kemp 30 years ago. He was witty, funny, and had presence. He enjoyed living in California.
There were Germans who recognized (too late) what Hitler really was and tried to stop him. They tragically failed. Re: Clause von Stauffenberg.
The portrayal of the most undiplomatic wife of any man...
Admittedly so, but Rhoda’s reaction to Pug in his Elmer Fudd outfit and Abendruh atones for a multitude of sins.
Makes you wonder if she was like this when he first met her or she got this way overtime.
What an incredible Treasure this classic masterpiece is!
I have no doubts it will still stand up beautifully 100 years from now, if the World hasn't been turned into a smoldering Radioactive Flag Pile.
The more the younger generations become fascinated with intentionally erasing history, refusing to learn history, and/or intentionally altering history to what might seem pleasant instead of what are, at times,hard, uncomfortable, and unpleasant truths and the lessons and warnings they have to offer, the more assured we are to repeat the exact same devastating mistakes of the past.
Hopefully the younger generations who believe themselves to be so very entitled, smarter than all, sheep people, or Sheeple, too lazy to even formulate their own unique thoughts and opinions, we will soon face another world war that will ultimately destroy all life as we know it today, guaranteed!
Well, at least the younger generation will be the ones used as cannon fodder so...
Yose Mite What kind of human would even SAY that?
In a nuclear war, whole cities will be "cannon fodder". What "Front Lines" do you expect to be sending the youth off to?
what a great mini series.
25:00 that rant by Hitler I believe is a word-for-word quote of his real-life rants. In fact I think all the Hitler utterances in this series are from actual history.
Mmmh. Though I don't think Hitler screamed exactly like that. The actor is overdoing it a bit, I think. Still, good portrayal.
@@karlthorsten9118 Meisner just looked wrong as Hitler.
Hitler wasn't like that try history visualised he takes his information from German archives and he is very unbiased and a German so he understands the literature and as a great grasp of the English language so is able to translate it verbatim
@alex carter - to use actual dialog by Hitler seems very much like something Wouk would have done. It would very much surprise me if what you said was not exactly true.
Barry Morse (Wolf Stoller) was a British actor well-known to 60s TV fans as Lt. Gerard-the detective obsessed with capturing Richard Kimble.
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YES! And how good/bad he was at the pursuit.
@@jamesmiller4184 The Stanford, Indiana police department appeared to have an unlimited travel budget.
He was always Dr. Victor Bergmann in "Space: 1999" to me.
Ribbentrop’s shorts are too tight. And Adolf sure loved the sound of his own voice.
Wow! Security for that party was HEAVY!
A dozen or so armed men watching arrivals with what was probably some kind of senior officer reviewing the paperwork of those arriving.
The actor playing Hitler does a wonderful job of conveying the effects of Hitler's growing drug addiction. In the next series he conveys the effects of meth well.
Gunter Maria Halmer played Hitler in TWOW; Steven Berkoff took over in War & Remembrance.
Glad you said that...I'll look for it
The actor playing Hitler is probably the best in the series,he plays the crazy man so well.
His eyes were quite impressive.
He also plays Slugworth in the original Willy Wonka film with Gene Wilder. A great performance!
Likely so. Good point.
I think it is a mistake to let Hitler, Stalin & company off as being crazy. They were masters at accumulating power, and used it brutally.
Crazy Like A Fox ! ! !
Hitler is often depicted as a decadent hateful hippie in uniform. Few know that he was a hardened soldier that often volunteered in the trenches of WWI. Not the man you want to lead a country, but with desperation of the 20`s germany, they would settle for anyone it seems. Extremely sad history after that.. Let us hope nothing like it ever happens in our lifetime.
How in hell did my comment get rewritten and redacted???
Robert Mitchum was one of the best.
1:33. LOL. THE ALCOHOLIC FAMILY THAT DRINKS TOGETHER SHARES THE HANGOVER
Your family?
Mussolini spoke English very well. Great series regardless.
Mussolini spoke fluent english in real life....
@@anthonyevans535 Agreed! I’ve seen him make video messages to USA .
My great grand parents in Italy adored Mussolini.
Ali is still playing her LOVE STORY Jennifer character.
I liked her in Love story. Mediocre here.
Love the series
The emotional intelligence of Victor Henry:
BYRON: Natalie and I are getting married.
PUG. I see. That might affect getting into [sub] school.
He was a naval officer not Dr Phil 😅
Passing off San Diego as Pensacola is hilarious.
Ali Mc Graw: "Shut up and take me home Preppie."
Je sais pas qui la écrite et pensé mais c'est une des meilleures séries que j'ai vu
A great Robert Mitchum.
Captain Baines as Churchill - keep expecting him to touch his forelock and mutter "Yes sir Mr. Onedin."
Hey! That German is Lt. Gerald from The Fugitive. We'll probably see the one-armed man too.
As the story goes on you will see plenty of one armed men yeah.!!!
goodchessactor Gerard
Barry Morse. English actor who played Lieutenant Gerard on the Fugitive.
Barry Morse also played Professor Victor Bergman in the 1st season of Space 1999.
@@Melo651and General Von Halder in War & Remembrance!
it's kind of sad that the end of this episode is the last time all of the Henry's are ever together
Ben
Until you mentioned it, that had actually escaped my notice.
NOT to mention the 69 MILLION other people that had the same dilemma during that war ! !
Was a very realistic portrayal of the upheaval the war caused. My parents had a bunch of married friends who were all part of the WW2 generation. My parents were the only couple of that group who had known each other before Pearl Harbor. All the rest met because the men were stationed here and there, where they met their wives.
Even though I've watched this serIes many times over the years, I just noticed that Stoller refers to Goering as Reichsmarschall at the party in December 1939. But in real life, Goering didn't have that rank until July 1940.
Yes. And I think Goering laid out the foundations for the labor and death camps. Not sure of it, but I think that was brought out in the Nuremberg Trials
Pug"s wife is a loose cannon
Put Polly Bergen’s character in the crazyHouse . A REAL flake
This has it all. Great.
Pug can be a first-class manipulative jerk when it comes to Byron.
Am I the only one that finds that Pug's wife is the most insufferable actress?
She plays the part well
You misunderstood - she's acting perfectly, but the character she's playing is indeed insufferable. And Rhoda will become even worse, the only one who doesn't want to slap her in the face is Pug (and Byron, okay - but he doesn't have a plan at all ^^).
Interesting, there are lots of comments on the actors, but very few on the content.
Too hard for today's people, I guess... - I am a German and I'm watching the whole thing now for a second time, and it makes me far beyond sad and still some kind of ashamed what 'my' people have done at that time.
And watch out - nowadays, 80 years later, at least some tendencies towards that direction are coming back to life in Germany. And not only there...
She was just playing a part and played it very well.
She dose kind of phone it in, but she’s not as bad as Ali McGraw
@@romantrampler1234 , thank you for sharing. God Bless.
Ali, always a pretty classic and good looking lady.
Stoller makes a script mistake at around 15:40: He refers to Goering as a Reichsmarschall, but Goering wasn't promoted to that rank until July 19, 1940 - after France was defeated.
Again, great as this series was they needed a chronology director badly.
I was thinking this last night!!;)
Also at 107:31: It states 'War office London. May 15th 1940. Time 7.17am' as
Big Ben Chimes the hour. 😂 Great series though.
43:15 I am reminded that I have heard there is a Russian saying: If you see a Nazi sitting at a table with 7 other people, you are seeing 8 Nazis sitting at a table.
In Finland there is a saying- a Russian is a Russian even when he is fried in butter! In other words a Russian is always a Russian he will not change!
@@edwardabraham2154 I could ask what gripe Finns have with Russians, but some people would not get the irony. Even with 🤪😏😂😳🤔🥴
greatest WW2 tv series ever by far they covered all parts of WW2 which is rare nowadays in 2022 everything is rush rush in this terrible movie industry now
I agree. Too much preaching , not enough entertaining.
Yes.I agree. FURTHERMORE, DIGITAL INSTEAD OF FILM/ KODAK has RUINED THE MOTION PICTURE INDUSTRY!!!!!!!!
Rhoda, in all her flightiness, is there to serve as a foil for Pug. Without her, Captain Henry might just come off as an uninteresting mule slogging through his work.
The man playing Hitler gives me goosebumps, scary goosebumps
If I may “a bad guy on the old Star Trek nobody talks piece unless they’re ready to back it up with war. Unfortunate, however, very true.
Is Pug going to finally break down and leave that awful, selfish wife? The character is unbearable.
Keep watching 😂
The music in this movie is classically perfect of the time. It's near tragic how the American people in 1938-40 felt so completely comfortable from the threat looming in front of them. Both my parents and, by extension, all the other adults around commented that the US was essentially asleep as the "literal winds of war" increasing intensity. That period was truly the end of innocent for the USA.
My parents, all the others, were the greatest generation. All, and I mean everything we have today is because of them.
I don't get it; the cast make reference after reference as to how beautiful Natalie is. Huh? They have got to be kidding. Ali McGraw is no beauty. Sure, casting could have gone a lot worse, but beautiful? No way!
I do agree with you about Ali McGraw being cast as Natalie, in my view, she was too old for the part, totally miscast and in this instance her acting was poor and over the top.
You have to be a femme fatale to play Natalie and Ali ain't it.
@@gillianlawlor868 Though youthful, Ali was close to 50 at this time. Plus Jan M. Vincent was also 40+ Poor casting. The episodes ONLY warm up a bit when there are some lukewarm love scenes.
Jan-Michael Vincent was 39, and Ali was 44 when they made this TV mini series. Hart Bochner and Jane Seymour were better actors and closer in age to the characters they played.
11:41-12:41 this scene would be repeated in part 11 of WAR AND REMEMBRANCE in which Hitler's generals were summoned by him to discuss strategy for the upcoming Battle of the Bulge in December 1944 exactly five years to the day after Captain Henry was invited to a ball at Goering's estate at Karinhall. It would be minus the footage with Pug and Luigi Gianelli however. The stock footage from this video for part 11 of W&R was tinted gray I guess to make it slightly different from from part 3 of WoW to make viewers to think it was new footage.
If you watch carefully, there are plenty of parallel scenes in these 2 miniseries.
Incredibly series in the eighties. Watched each one with my Dad
Thanx so much for upload!
I enjoy this miniseries to no end. The real drawback for me and I don't know if others feel this way, is that the roles of Jan-Michael Vincent and Ali McGraw are played up so much that it detracts from the overall story. They are in way too many scenes whereas the other fine actors are ignored. I can actually see why they were let go prior to war and remembrance and replaced. The other problem that I have is that if there had been a real pug Henry then after his visit with FDR, he would immediately been promoted to Captain rather than Commander because FDR was well known for this type of behavior.
Once into War & Remembrance it mostly centers on Byron and Natalie.
This series was definitely a product of the times.
This series was done in the 80's. I don't see the connection.
@@TampaDave the 80s were awesome- just like WoW
Interesting that Gianelli’s tact with Mussolini, (lavish praise, hyperbole, and repeated use of his name), was also recommended for a more recent head of state.