The 2 best novels I have ever read. I read both over 2 successive weekends, & I was in tears by the end of the 2nd novel. Making this series took a monumental amount of hard wrk & determination, but Dan Curtis & Barbara Steele got it done ! Both series are , hands-down, the very finest of the TV mini-series genre. -----------------MJL, 77 y/o
Thank you for this! The scenes of the bombed streets of Warsaw break my heart, I am Pole. .Just like what my grandparents lived through. Great miniseries.
This is an amazing series. The characters are intriguing. One of my favorite periods of history, too. I'm astounded by the complexity of the production, the lavish settings, the incredible war scenes - with all the CGI in the world, you do not get the richness that's achieved by the cinematography in this. I have to agree it's an underrated gem.
The accuracy of the history, background and location settings, clothing, social,political positions and mindsets of the Germans, British, Americans and Jews is brilliantly captured.
This is one of the most underrated, brilliant shows of all time. So well produced, so wonderfully acted. So few people these days even know this exists, yet it's one of the best war epics of all time. I am so glad I stumbled upon it years ago. I have rewatched it many times. Every couple of years this is worthy of a re-watch. Thanks for uploading it to YT for free.
*Is this your 'Favorite Fapping' material?* *A actor who delivers lines like a 'wooden Indian' playing at being a 'real Daddy' really does for you?* *Okay, then*
agreed and i do the same thing. they shouldnt have replaced ali and jan michael vincent (rip) in the 2nd part. they were right for the roles the replacements milk toast compared to first team.
Another asinine “underrated” comment. ABC reported that the miniseries had 140 million viewers for all or part of its eighteen hours, making it the most-watched miniseries up to that time. The show was a success throughout the United States and received many accolades, including Golden Globe nominations and various Emmy wins and nominations. Yeah…… Very underrated.
@@TowGunner Ah yes, asinine. It's available for free to watch on RUclips, doesn't require any access to premium services such as HBO Max, Netflix, etc. and STILL only has 4.3k reviews/ratings on imdb. Maybe it got it's respect 40 years ago, I'm sure it did but that is 100% irrelevant to anything I said in my initial comment.
At 57:34 in this video, the kid in the back of the truck is me! LoL We lived in Zagreb when I was in 4th grade and we got a chance to be extras in this movie.
That must be good for you to see now….Kind regards from Cheshire England….I miss films like this.I am 82 now and was around when films like this were good….
When the SS tried to weed out the Jews from the American group, and the whole group survived it. It really gave me the chills to watch. I was sweeting along with characters. I could definitely understand the dire situation the Jews were in. I was glad to watch this series as a kid. It was a eye opening experience because it truly made me understand the dark side of the Nazis and evil in the world.
It’s a good scene but largely fabricated. In 1939, Germany would not have risked alienating neutral countries, especially the United States. Plus, the Nazis didn’t settle on the Final Solution until 1942. Even so, the in age of the Jews culled out and waiting for their fate is hard to shake.
Nazis then, zionists now. Only the zionists are not hiding what they are doing. I bet they can’t wait to get US into a war with Mexico to distract the world from what they’re doing.
In his dress uniform, in a suit, in a sports jacket, in his tennis kit, even in his pajamas, every fibre of his being is heroic. I attempt to emulate him in every way.
No, sadly - they don't. Robert M. was a compelling force; impossible to look elsewhere whenever he was onscreen; he Owned it!/ Graceful, smart, heroic & strong... He broke many molds, and is missed. 🌹
The restaurant scene reminds me of a story a coworker told me a long time ago. He was a bit quite a bit older than me and his parents were from Friesland. When he was a kid they were visiting family in Germany after the Nazis took power but before the war. He was playing with a bunch of other kids when a brown shirt or one of their ilk came by and all the kids were supposed to do the heil hitler salute for some reason.....except him. The nazi started berating him to do the salute and he shouted back "I don't have to....I'm an American!" He went back after the war and the folks there still remembered the American boy who stood up to the nazi. He has long since passed but was a great guy and friend.....here's to you George Schmidt.
Fantastic Mini series! I stumbled onto it here on you tube a couple years ago. I remember watching it when it was released on TV, I’m watching it again. It’s so good..
Thank you so much for posting the “Winds of War” series. I’ve been trying to find it on a streaming service for years. It brings back many happy memories of my grandparents who lived during this time and who raised me with the stories of World War II.
This episode is besot with a rapidly blinking commercial on the right mo matter what I do. Anybody have a suggestion? I'm afraid It will give a seizure so I can't watch... 😫
We must never forget those films it just goes to show you history repeats it self again like Putin in Russia trying to take over Ukraine people God bless yous all in Ukraine ❤️
@@berniedwyer7277Or like China trying to claim territories in Asia and the south sea that are just excuses for their own expansion. Your point is very important. Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it
*'We' are almost constantly 'at War' one way or another, and this 'History Lesson' is 'dramatized bullsh!t' propaganda* *Wouk was a 'hack writer' whose idea of 'Writing a Story' consisted of 'Never do one page when you can make into 20!'* _____________ *It was never 'Hitler & 17 other Nazis' with 'blood-dripping fangs'...the 'Nazi Party' had 8.5 MILLION members all of whom fervently believed 'We must do whatever needs doing to ensure Germany's rightful place in Europe!'*
I'm 76 and grew up in a neighborhood where blouses and shirtsleeves rode up on tattooed arms and smiling faces contained grief stricken eyes. This brings stark memories back. May 2022
Great old-time actors like Robert Mitchum are sorely missed. He had a natural authority to him. The way he calls-down the German waiter: "Stop! Turn around! Call your manager!". And the guy immediately does it.
We also learned Pug boxed in the Navy, and was a fullback on the football team. He would have worn out that waiter and dropped him like a bad habit, LOL.
Robt Mitchum was the definition of misscasted in this roll. Too old and WAY out of shape. My vote would have been Peter Strauss ! ! Robert Mitchum...........Please ! ! ! ! !
@@Chrmngblly At the time, she was a big star. With the possible exception of the delightful Tennant, they casted for star power. I have never understood that she never became a big star.
She really tried to do what she could I don,t think anyone could have seen what was coming that lady that she worked for in Paris I thought was the worst.
@@nhmooytis7058 Tiffany, correct if I’m wrong. You’re referring to the collaborationist comtesse played by Nina Foch in the second half of W&R, am I right? Foch was a well-regarded actress with a career spanning seven decades. Her performance in My Name Is Julia Ross (1945) is legendary among B-movie and suspense fans.
Dan Curtis produced this, he did Dark Shadows, Kolchak the Night Stalker with Darren Magavine. Its such a delight to find out he made stories like this too. Excellent Series!
@@ShirleyDrake-xx2cs If you're talking about the Dark Shadows series on TV, then I am in agreement. That program that aired for several years was spellbinding. I could not stand to miss a single episode back in the sixties.
I saw her picture for her 80th birthday she looked great,her face looks young and firm and she didn't look any kind of botixor face-lift. But I agree her character in this movie just didn't fit her.
yes I think it does. Young people should watch this series and the WaR. ... This was recommended by some history professors as a valuable teaching tool, much better than some stuff made today.
Absolutely as a millennial it is important to see how things were back then...the sheet evil happening in Europe And everytime we see the USA, the embassy, the white house, I feel so proud
I think Rhoda would have been more of a hindrance to have as a diplomat's wife than an asset. Pug really gave the impression of barely tolerating her on the ship over to Germany.
Rhoda was not as bad as that. She provided children, kept a comfortable home for him, picked up his clothes every time he dropped them and put shoe horn’s in his shoe. She was left alone ALOT… she did not have much else going except dream of being a actress/singer. Polly Bergen played this role perfectly…sad that the character she played ended up depending on alcohol for comfort. Military spouses like police and other workalcolic professionals face this if they do not develop their own skills. Pamela being a writer had this.
@@marksolomonify US military officers must retire at age 62 unless they achieve rank of O-7 (Brig General/Rear Admiral) or higher. Mitchum would have been mid-60s when this was filmed & he looked it. Great actor & he knew the role. See The Enemy Below (1958) to see him in his prime as a USN Commander.
Some exaggerations written from a retrospective view point. I don't think Roosevelt would have entered the war if Germany hadn't declared war on the U.S. after Pearl Harbour but in this series' episode 1 he says to Mitchum's character that they would be involved. Also the presentation of U.S. nationals having adventures in war time Poland does give the impression of a deeper U.S. involvement at the time than I feel was the case. Maybe something you should learn about WWII is that the allies lost WWII in Europe.
“No thank you mister. That is your business. Not mine”. Remembered essentially that line since I first saw it 40 years ago. Just couldn’t remember her exact words.
Fun fact: at 18:45 we can hear one of the only recordings of the now abandoned Los Angeles cold war siren system. The siren heard is a Federal Signal SD-10 (made in the 50's), the most widespread siren in the LA County. (the other sirens in the background are British Carter sirens from WW2) The movie was made just 2 years before the LA siren system was shut down and left abandoned.
The thing about this mini series is many of the actors lived it They saw the war and it’s effects and could use their experiences to make this drama more realistic
A few people commenting have said they didn't like Ali MacGraw's performance in The Winds of War and found her irritating. You have to remember that her character Natalie Jastrow was a very headstrong and impulsive young woman, one who didn't give much thought to how her actions and decisions affected other people. As far as I'm concerned, Ali MacGraw's performance captured Natalie's immature character perfectly. I'm sorry that she was replaced by Jane Seymour in War and Remembrance. Polly Bergen had an equally difficult character to portray in Rhoda Henry, and I think she captured her perfectly. Rhoda was a shallow, social-climbing manipulator, and I'm so glad Pug found happiness with the lovely Pamela Tudsbury, played by Victoria Tennant. Loved their wedding at the Naval Academy Chapel in Annapolis.
I agree; MacGraw in my opinion plays Natalie just right. She’s every bit as imperious and reckless as Wouk wrote her, and she does have a rather compelling quality-hence Slote’s turmoil.
Absolutely she fits as does the English lady. Most viewers today don’t understand how a Jew was perceived until after the war and there is a continual tension here that captures it. Ali pulls it off very well as does Mitchum.
"der Feuersturm" und "Feuersturm und Asche" (so die Deutschen Titel von "winds of war" und "war and remembrance") sollten unbedingt im Fernsehen wieder gebracht werden
That slight raised eyebrow reaction on Pug's face at 14:18 after FDR says "We'll have to." about American involvement in the European War. Can only imagine what he must have been thinking.
I come across this war episode regarding the 2 world war the acting is second to none we'll put together my old time favourite they don't make movies like this anymore
I know that a lot of people loved the books and the series, a good friend of mine recommended them to me, I tried to read the "Winds of War", but that woman Natalie was so aggravating that I couldn't finish it. So far, I'm doing fine with skipping her parts in the videos, other than her I'm liking this.
I honestly don't understand your statement. Firstly if Natalie irritates you to scroll past her part betrays a taste for comfort zone characters in a drama rather than a variety of personalities and secondly she is the kind of woman who most thinking men admire. She reminds me of my mother who lived through WWII and always had a hands on approach tempered with independence to everything she did including marrying a Polish airman in the U.K.
@@2011littlejohn1 We each have our own opinion of that character, in my opinion she needed to take the circumstances that were in front of her more seriously, she needed to see the big picture of what was happening in the world.
Well actually binding wounds in a war zone does qualify as to being aware of what was happening. But I still don't get understand your attitude about scrolling past her parts - if you didn't like her character then the actress was successfully acting. One thing that did happen regarding the big picture which is now ignored is that - the allies lost WWII in Europe.
@@nancyhammons3594 Please keep in mind that we all are looking at the characters through the eyes filled with knowledge of history. Natalie is wilful, spoiled and manipulative toward men who are clearly infatuated with her, but she is also a child of her upbringing and time. Millions of people more intelligent and worldly, with greater life experience could not and would not believe that the horror of WW2 could happen, that civilised Germany would inflict such decimation and suffering. Those blinkers will come off with vengeance- we know that, but the Characters did not.
SNAFU: WoW what an Abbreviation for Regular Word's. I Recall hearing that Expression Oh Forty Year's ago, and then in this Series' and Reading it in Monthly Periodicals I use too Buy to Add to My Library Collection on the Second WORLD WAR. Boy was that Decade's Ago. Then at 20:00 minutes into Part Two? Byron & Natalie, Seating Out the Bombing Raid on Warsaw. IT Seemed So Real almost like it was Starting Again. I Can't Help but Think 💬🤔 of How My Parent's & Relative's took it Even almost Thirty to Forty Year's, after they'd probably been Exposed too it possibly Before, and in Real Situations. Ahh Shucks I'm just over Analyzing, & Mulling thing's through. Thank You for Airing the Mini Series Again. 🇨🇦🇺🇸👍😎👍🙏🙏🙏🙏
Read the books and watched the series when I was in high school. Completely cemented my views on Nazism and what is good and evil. Amazing, epochal books and TV series as well.
I agree it was made 40 years away from the events, the Winds of Change had not happened in Eastern Europe and we are watching this 40 years on in the new century and it looks like Ukraine 2022.
Mitchum was the coolest of all the cool cats. My favorite memory of him was an interview with Dick Cavett-- so calm and easy and smooth in his words and movements. Cavitt asked him what was the secret of his 40 year marriage and as he casually lit another smoke Mitchum off-handedly answered "deviousness".
You can't get away with complaining about substandard service today... You'll be told to leave and they'll call the cops. How things have changed. Not for the better...
*He would've had his ass 'handed to him' by fifty Germans for daring to open his 'bloated ass mouth' in public is far more likely to have happened* *Even Einstein himself, who was born and raised in Germany and by the late 1930's was the most esteemed 'Thinker' in the World was warned 'Never come back' because "You'll be dragged down streets by your hair and beaten to death" from many friends who were still there*
I read the books when they were first published, gave them to my teenaged daughter to read. Such magnificent books. I have a hard time reading war and remembrances, the brutality in the death camps is heartbreaking,
I worked for Rayette Division of Faberge in 1968 - 1983. Polly Bergen was on the Roundable as a senior important female pushing het makeup line for Faberge's senior Board of Diirectors personnel. Her cosmetic line never moved too well. I was tasked with running the Rayette Division of Faberge's company store. Prices of Faberge products and Aqua Net Hair Spray and other multi-named hair sprays were authorized to be sold at "reduced emplyee prices". A csn of 12 oz hairspray was 35 cents. However, Cary Grant was also on the Board of Directors. I met him at a Stockholders Board of Directiors mtg, St Paul, MN mtg. Our commanality is that at that mtg, we both had younng daughters named Jennifer. A total coincidence and I pray she is doing ok. My daughter is now 49 yrs olf. I hope that i havent board you with my memory and story. He was a warm, handsome amd pleasing aquaintence. He supported his commited position as a board position on the Board of Directors of Fabege. Our
I have more sympathy for Rhoda on this viewing. Life for military wives is difficult and Pug was a buttoned up guy. But Rhoda blew it dumping Palmer. The guy she ended up with was a jerk.
@@nhmooytis7058 : Perfect metaphor for the "woke." Rich, pretty, headstrong, self-absorbed and arrogant. Clueless about how real world works. Crying out for "peace and security," as sudden destruction comes. Sound familiar?
@@dstrong5897 here the correct definition of „woke“ for you: „alert to injustice in society, especially racism“. Natalie is not woke, she is a typical American, believes in her American exceptionalism, self absorbed, unworldly, entitled, self centered, arrogant. And if you do not like this description of an American, maybe start using woke correctly, and do not give it your right wing interpretation. There is nothing wrong in being alert to social injustice and against racism.
She’s just a typical spoiled airhead that had always got her way one way or the other with everyone especially men and she’s like a bumper sticker I saw. “No matter how pretty she is somebody somewhere is sick of her shit”! lol she’s selfish as hell even if she gets everyone around her killed.
@fred McMurray yea I wouldn't say typical female... she def is not the majority... 2 b honest most females like if they man cares and tries to protect them at all cost, this 1 cheats on her man 4 it smh 🤦🏽♂️
Wow, I was just about to speak on that . Not only that, but the triangulation between the 2 men . Also the back and forth wishy washy love scene with Byron . I could go on, but her character screams Narcissism .
LBF522 Well Ali McGraw was a nymph in real life, but nothing like this character. She lives in New Mexico, now. But she played a real bitch here, her and Brian’s mother proving that men marry women like their mothers.
My God, Ali McGraw couldn't act her way through an open door. Jan Michael-Vincent wasn't much better, so it was smart to pair them up; that way they ruined less of the whole.
Back for another look. I love the restaurant scene. What restaurant these days could afford a small orchestra. The attention to detail in this series is really good, better than in many movies.
I love how in the bombing raid on Warsaw, the window gets blown in and the apartment is falling apart, Byron casually stands up and shoves the books back on the bookshelf.
Ralph bellamy in the whole series was fkn brilliant as the u.s president, robert mitchum great actor , meisner shouldve been adolf in the 2nd part as well, but the winds of war and war and rememberance is 1 of the greatest longest mini series ever made of ww2, got them both, used to watch them bk in the 80,s 10/10 for curtis making it from herman,s book, great star casts in both episodes
I saw maybe two thirds of this series first time around, I agree this should be shown again to remind us what happened from 1933 to 1945, Americans forget Nazis didn't just show up after December 7th 1941... Holocaust denyers need to be shut down.
Many have commented about Pug Henry stopping the sloppy waiter in his tracks. In my experience, one doesn't become an O-6 without having a command presence.
I know he was really pissed, but he did what he had to do. It was a public setting and if they had done what the others had suggested - “let’s just leave” - it would have been all over Berlin that a waiter caused the American military attaché to turn tail and run. Standing up to the waiter and drawing a line was the correct action. He appealed to the head waiter on the basis of diplomatic and professional protocol, and the German understood and accepted that to the extent that he publicly reprimanded the waiter. Note the respect of the other diners.
@@fett333 many thanks for your grandfather for his service and respect. If it weren’t for heroes like him we would enjoy the freedoms that we have today.
Natalie is just a head strong woman who knows her own mind. A very intelligent and interesting. Most people r threatened by others like her. I am intrigued by her . Always have been. Love Herman Would books.
"All Jews to the restaurant!" A good day to be an American. Too many forget that most days are good days to be an American. Perhaps not every day, but most.
They're in Warsaw, right. The Germans have just decimated the countryside and overrun Warsaw. Air-raid sirens sound, against all procedures, they run to the windows (instead of the basement, what one is supposed to do) open them, the thundering sound of hundreds of airplanes comes through and Natalie says, "Do you think they are coming here?" Duh, where else would the bombers be going. So they leave the window open and sit down for a cigarette break. Then after the window is now closed. Its all too fantastic.
Absolutely! Have/am just at the moment of watching it….Robert Mitchum is absolutely stupendous! God bless him and his memory R.I.P…THAT is a fine example of self-control, keeping your powder dry, hearing them out to see what they’re really are like, wait and hold your fire till you see the whites of their utterly soulless evil eyes, then let ´em have it, blast ´em out, life isn’t worth living with #scum like that around, and that goes for ALL totalitarians in their grate palaces while other poor wretches are poisened, saved only to be put in prison Mister Putin….
Natalie at 58:20: “Slote said Stockholm or Berlin, huh? Well, I’d kind of like to see Berlin myself.” Did she think this was some sort of grand adventure and she’d be untouched because she’s an American? Wtf?
@@elizabethjohnston1051 Yep. No one in the cast was the right age for the characters they were playing. Robert Mitchum was way older than what Victor Henry was supposed to be.
@@44excalibur Yea, I like Mitchum but the scene with the beautiful blonde in her apartment just didn't really work. She was believable and her eyes were just all soft for him but he wasn't playing his part, he seemed cold and distant. And Natalie is driving me nuts.
I was just thinking - this show came out 39 years ago now, that's the same difference between 1900 and when Hitler invaded Poland. Imagine all that happened between those two time periods and that's how long it's been since this was released.
56:16 "What on Earth have you been doing in Warsaw? Ah Sightseeing....." Funny, but true in every war that civilians get caught up in advancing armies and get in the way.
When the German general mentioned the oil fields. That line was extremely important. As Germany during WWII were importing 70% of their oil. It became the reason why Germany lost the war.
That was a minor cause. They had plenty of fuel at the end. It lost because it lost the battle for the North Atlantic, allowing the US to supply Russia and Britain, and, keep them in the war. It lost because we turned out Liberty ships in just days, instead of months, because the converted River Rouge plant owned by Ford could turn out B-25's like automobiles. It was the productive capacity of the US, and the Allied control of the sea lanes that sealed Hitler's fate.
@@keithkuckler2551 you missed the importance of oil fields. Just like Israel and their dependence on the Palestinian labor force, Japan's dependence on natural resources, European dependence on natural gas. Germany wouldn't have had lots of oil toward the end of the war, had they lost a few more battles early on. And when the Romanian oil fields suffered crippling bombing, the Germans were hard pressed to feed their tank fleet. Because by this time, the Luftwaffe was crushed, and Kreigsmarine didn't leave port.oil was vital to any military effort. This is what galls most Americans above the president of certain parties spend the strategic oil reserves like its theirs when in fact its design was for the military and the navy specifically. Nuclear power was a game changer. Detrimental reliance on oil, can and does control much of the developed and developing world.
@@keithkuckler2551 I will agree with your statement s that the U.S. outproduced the rest of the world. But it's also true, the U.S. did not experience acts of sabotage or nightly bombing, supply shortages, labor problems, and that the congress wrote a blank check which is why we are screwed today.
@@jeffreycoulter4095 USA profited massively from WW2. This led to 1950s wealth, trustafarian hippies and the 1950s superiority that Trump is trying to sell as a replicatable reality. Watch Robert Newman History of Oil on RUclips for a very funny and perceptive read on how oil caused ww1 and WW2
I am thrilled that I found this on RUclips because it is my all-time favorite series.
Good stories,books of course say lots more,but good none the less.love works war 2 stories.
The 2 best novels I have ever read. I read both over 2 successive weekends, & I was in tears by the end of the 2nd novel. Making this series took a monumental amount of hard wrk & determination, but Dan Curtis & Barbara Steele got it done ! Both series are , hands-down, the very finest of the TV mini-series genre. -----------------MJL, 77 y/o
Absolutely. One of, if not the best, of the mini-series era.
Best for me too great books and great series
i thank you on behalf of the production team. i provided most of the historical footage used in both series to frame the drama.
@@KLARATV101good job.
Don’t forget Herman Woulk, the author of the novels who also wrote the teleplay.
Thank you for this! The scenes of the bombed streets of Warsaw break my heart, I am Pole. .Just like what my grandparents lived through. Great miniseries.
This is an amazing series. The characters are intriguing. One of my favorite periods of history, too. I'm astounded by the complexity of the production, the lavish settings, the incredible war scenes - with all the CGI in the world, you do not get the richness that's achieved by the cinematography in this. I have to agree it's an underrated gem.
Absolutely agree with you, its exceptional, Dan Curtis was a brilliant tv and film maker.
Mom n pop lived it!!! I miss them.
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I saw this movie years and years ago, I am so happy to have seen this on you tube, so I can see it again
The accuracy of the history, background and location settings, clothing, social,political positions and mindsets of the Germans, British, Americans and Jews is brilliantly captured.
Except for clothes and hair of Byron!
I’ve see. This many times. It is an excellent film that our youth needs to see! We are currently repeating history and doing nothing about it!
This is one of the most underrated, brilliant shows of all time. So well produced, so wonderfully acted. So few people these days even know this exists, yet it's one of the best war epics of all time. I am so glad I stumbled upon it years ago. I have rewatched it many times. Every couple of years this is worthy of a re-watch. Thanks for uploading it to YT for free.
@The Richest Man In Babylon It definitely is now.
*Is this your 'Favorite Fapping' material?* *A actor who delivers lines like a 'wooden Indian' playing at being a 'real Daddy' really does for you?*
*Okay, then*
agreed and i do the same thing. they shouldnt have replaced ali and jan michael vincent (rip) in the 2nd part. they were right for the roles the replacements milk toast compared to first team.
Another asinine “underrated” comment. ABC reported that the miniseries had 140 million viewers for all or part of its eighteen hours, making it the most-watched miniseries up to that time. The show was a success throughout the United States and received many accolades, including Golden Globe nominations and various Emmy wins and nominations. Yeah…… Very underrated.
@@TowGunner Ah yes, asinine. It's available for free to watch on RUclips, doesn't require any access to premium services such as HBO Max, Netflix, etc. and STILL only has 4.3k reviews/ratings on imdb. Maybe it got it's respect 40 years ago, I'm sure it did but that is 100% irrelevant to anything I said in my initial comment.
At 57:34 in this video, the kid in the back of the truck is me! LoL We lived in Zagreb when I was in 4th grade and we got a chance to be extras in this movie.
That must be good for you to see now….Kind regards from Cheshire England….I miss films like this.I am 82 now and was around when films like this were good….
Cool!
thats so cool!!!
This must have cost a fortune to produce at the time.The incredible detail even in passing shots that are on screen for only a few seconds is amazing.
When the SS tried to weed out the Jews from the American group, and the whole group survived it. It really gave me the chills to watch. I was sweeting along with characters. I could definitely understand the dire situation the Jews were in. I was glad to watch this series as a kid. It was a eye opening experience because it truly made me understand the dark side of the Nazis and evil in the world.
It’s a good scene but largely fabricated. In 1939, Germany would not have risked alienating neutral countries, especially the United States. Plus, the Nazis didn’t settle on the Final Solution until 1942. Even so, the in age of the Jews culled out and waiting for their fate is hard to shake.
I think this was the best scene in the series.
Nazis then, zionists now. Only the zionists are not hiding what they are doing. I bet they can’t wait to get US into a war with Mexico to distract the world from what they’re doing.
Which country in the Continent are you referring to ?
I was born 10 years too late to remember ww2, but I have been obsessed with ww2 stuff lately.
Robert Mitchum was one hell of a great actor.They don’t make them like that anymore.
RIP Robert Mitchum 😢
In his dress uniform, in a suit, in a sports jacket, in his tennis kit, even in his pajamas, every fibre of his being is heroic. I attempt to emulate him in every way.
No, sadly - they don't. Robert M. was a compelling force; impossible to look elsewhere whenever he was onscreen; he Owned it!/ Graceful, smart, heroic & strong...
He broke many molds, and is missed. 🌹
Agreed ! ! BUT he was TOO OLD for this part and War and Rememberance....Way Too Old
@@umpman04 It's pretty noticable here but in War and Rememberance it's very distracting especially with the Pamela storyline.
I watched it when it first aired on TV. I enjoyed it and the depth of characters and shallowness of others! It is worth watching this again!
I watched this with my Dad as a senior in high school. It stands the test of time.
*So does my dick 'stand the test of time' even if no woman wants it*
It sucked then, it sucks now…LOL
Pug henry. Great speaking voice.
The restaurant scene reminds me of a story a coworker told me a long time ago. He was a bit quite a bit older than me and his parents were from Friesland. When he was a kid they were visiting family in Germany after the Nazis took power but before the war. He was playing with a bunch of other kids when a brown shirt or one of their ilk came by and all the kids were supposed to do the heil hitler salute for some reason.....except him. The nazi started berating him to do the salute and he shouted back "I don't have to....I'm an American!" He went back after the war and the folks there still remembered the American boy who stood up to the nazi. He has long since passed but was a great guy and friend.....here's to you George Schmidt.
Wow, thank you for sharing that story!
🎉😂❤. Good story. Americans and Canadians = friends 😅🎉❤.
@@nathaliek798 Except in 1812 lol
Friesland is Germany and i wonder how he can be a american boy when his parents are from Friesland !!! Your story is not even good written nonsense
@@nathaliek798Not really!
The winds of war" and " war and rememberance" were very fine novels written by a very fine man, Herman wolk.
RIP
I wanted another book. To finish it
The sequence of events is something few know. This show does a good job of putting things in order.
Fantastic Mini series! I stumbled onto it here on you tube a couple years ago. I remember watching it when it was released on TV, I’m watching it again.
It’s so good..
Try ( war and remberance ).
I love watching this when I was a young kid the winds of war series gives so much detail about ww2 they don't make tv series like this anymore.
Loved? You can always edit!
*They couldn't 'make more' because no girdle was big enough for Mitchum*
Thank you so much for posting the “Winds of War” series. I’ve been trying to find it on a streaming service for years. It brings back many happy memories of my grandparents who lived during this time and who raised me with the stories of World War II.
my wife loved robert mitchum.
This episode is besot with a rapidly blinking commercial on the right mo matter what I do. Anybody have a suggestion? I'm afraid It will give a seizure so I can't watch... 😫
We must never forget those films it just goes to show you history repeats it self again like Putin in Russia trying to take over Ukraine people God bless yous all in Ukraine ❤️
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@@berniedwyer7277Or like China trying to claim territories in Asia and the south sea that are just excuses for their own expansion.
Your point is very important. Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it
The scenes with FDR are wonderful.
This and War and Remembrance should be aired or streamed now. This generation needs this history lesson.
*'We' are almost constantly 'at War' one way or another, and this 'History Lesson' is 'dramatized bullsh!t' propaganda*
*Wouk was a 'hack writer' whose idea of 'Writing a Story' consisted of 'Never do one page when you can make into 20!'*
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*It was never 'Hitler & 17 other Nazis' with 'blood-dripping fangs'...the 'Nazi Party' had 8.5 MILLION members all of whom fervently believed 'We must do whatever needs doing to ensure Germany's rightful place in Europe!'*
*ps..fortunately the new 'Orange Fuhrer' was out-voted in his insane lust for 'personal greed for wealth & power' are confined to 'Mar-a-Lardo' now*
They wouldn’t watch it…too slow and long.
As if they would get their noses out of the iPhone to watch it
Boy howdy!
GREAT MOVIE, Explains a lot about how WW11 Happened …THANK YOU 👏👏👏❤️
I'm 76 and grew up in a neighborhood where blouses and shirtsleeves rode up on tattooed arms and smiling faces contained grief stricken eyes. This brings stark memories back. May 2022
Stark memories of what?
Robert mitchum made this film great he is an awesome actor
@@aliciasawyer9787 Was!
Great old-time actors like Robert Mitchum are sorely missed. He had a natural authority to him. The way he calls-down the German waiter: "Stop! Turn around! Call your manager!". And the guy immediately does it.
It was in the script though …
They truly don’t make actors that great anymore Hollywood has lost its way
Most of the men of his generation had been through it all.
We also learned Pug boxed in the Navy, and was a fullback on the football team. He would have worn out that waiter and dropped him like a bad habit, LOL.
Robt Mitchum was the definition of misscasted in this roll. Too old and WAY out of shape. My vote would have been Peter Strauss ! ! Robert Mitchum...........Please ! ! ! ! !
Robert Mitchum has so much gravitas he carries every scene with his presence
Too bad they had to plug in Ali McGraw. What a waste. She is just too weak of an actress.
He was great in Cape Fear (1962)
@@jeffreykaufmann2867 Ah yes, but the contrast of the two roles is a testament to his craft.
@@Chrmngblly At the time, she was a big star. With the possible exception of the delightful Tennant, they casted for star power. I have never understood that she never became a big star.
@@Chrmngblly Yes. SO happy they replaced her w/Jane Seymour.
Really one of the Great Movies !! Thanks so much for your showing free !!
Robert Mitchum sure knows how to wear a hat. I wish more men wore them now.
Mitchum wore some very nice clothes in both series and still looked good in his Navy uniforms. Always liked him. He and Victoria Tennant were awesome.
Ditto to the comments. And the music is superb …. Always an integral part of movie drama.
NATALIE: I’m not an imbecile, Byron.
Untruer words were never spoken!
Amen!
She really tried to do what she could I don,t think anyone could have seen what was coming that lady that she worked for in Paris I thought was the worst.
@@tiffanygrever8092 what lady in Paris?
In WAR AND REMEMBRANCE that lady she worked for while Aron was in surgery she was the American wife of a French politician.@@nhmooytis7058
@@nhmooytis7058 Tiffany, correct if I’m wrong. You’re referring to the collaborationist comtesse played by Nina Foch in the second half of W&R, am I right? Foch was a well-regarded actress with a career spanning seven decades. Her performance in My Name Is Julia Ross (1945) is legendary among B-movie and suspense fans.
Dan Curtis produced this, he did Dark Shadows, Kolchak the Night Stalker with Darren Magavine. Its such a delight to find out he made stories like this too. Excellent Series!
I loved Dark Shadows and Night Stalker!
@@ShirleyDrake-xx2cs If you're talking about the Dark Shadows series on TV, then I am in agreement. That program that aired for several years was spellbinding. I could not stand to miss a single episode back in the sixties.
"Any Jew would have to be an idiot to come to Warsaw this summer"...did you hear that Natalie?!
That’s what the German officer said at the train station when they searched for jews. In reality she would have been shot, by an American lol.
Amazingly Ali MacGraw was 44 years old when this was made, and is now 84 years old. You would never think she was 44 in this series.
This is why her character doesn't work as intended.
@@lydiamalone1859 That may well be the case, but Polly Bergen should have never been cast in her role as Rhoda Henry. Her acting was pitiful.
She does look young here, she didn`t look 31 in "love story" either.
I saw her picture for her 80th birthday she looked great,her face looks young and firm and she didn't look any kind of botixor face-lift. But I agree her character in this movie just didn't fit her.
No better series than this has ever been made. It captures the essence of
the way things were like in those days.
yes I think it does. Young people should watch this series and the WaR.
... This was recommended by some history professors as a valuable teaching tool, much better than some stuff made today.
Have you ever watched „Fortunes of War “?
Valentena Upton
@@davidfrank7370 f u
Absolutely as a millennial it is important to see how things were back then...the sheet evil happening in Europe
And everytime we see the USA, the embassy, the white house, I feel so proud
I think Rhoda would have been more of a hindrance to have as a diplomat's wife than an asset. Pug really gave the impression of barely tolerating her on the ship over to Germany.
She didn't marry a man,she married a uniform and the glamorous life with it
@@ermindaarata3903 Good analysis. I don't think that Rhoda was a bad person.
Rhoda was not as bad as that. She provided children, kept a comfortable home for him, picked up his clothes every time he dropped them and put shoe horn’s in his shoe. She was left alone ALOT… she did not have much else going except dream of being a actress/singer. Polly Bergen played this role perfectly…sad that the character she played ended up depending on alcohol for comfort. Military spouses like police and other workalcolic professionals face this if they do not develop their own skills. Pamela being a writer had this.
@@LBF522 But extremely naïve! She was probably under the impression that Hitler was no more dangerous than a fluffy kitten.
@@peterboczan2116 Possibly.
That reveal of the banquet hall during the transfer was chilling.
Love the plot, Mitchum as always great performance overall great entertaining literature and following the series. Thank you for the upload.
Agreed except Robt Mitchum was too old for this role.
@@marksolomonify US military officers must retire at age 62 unless they achieve rank of O-7 (Brig General/Rear Admiral) or higher. Mitchum would have been mid-60s when this was filmed & he looked it. Great actor & he knew the role. See The Enemy Below (1958) to see him in his prime as a USN Commander.
@@DByers-ci5kr I think he was hired for his strong voice and male presence. And Excellent actor thank you.
Pug sorting out the waiter is absolute ace..!
Pug was epic! Now if only he had been there to help Natalie and sort out Karl Rahm, and that SS Selection Officer
Voice of command, gets the point across without yellihg. Well done.
Love the way ol' Bob Mitchum puts that waiter back in his box at 1:27. "The Hun is always at your feet or at your throat". Churchill.
And in a strange way, the same can be said about the English. At least to some extent.
This is a great series. I enjoyed it very much and I will be watching it again. 😃
This should be required reading or watching for every high school student..It's a fabulous history lesson.
The leftist school members would brainwash the kids giving false factual info
It is a little dramatized but it does give a good picture of what was occurring at that time. Right now we’re on the brink of World War III.
Third time I watch this series,my frail memory keeps forgetting details,but still I learned a lot about WWII through it.
Some exaggerations written from a retrospective view point. I don't think Roosevelt would have entered the war if Germany hadn't declared war on the U.S. after Pearl Harbour but in this series' episode 1 he says to Mitchum's character that they would be involved. Also the presentation of U.S. nationals having adventures in war time Poland does give the impression of a deeper U.S. involvement at the time than I feel was the case. Maybe something you should learn about WWII is that the allies lost WWII in Europe.
@@2011littlejohn1 I believe Germany surrendered how did they lose in Europe?
@@Americanpatriot-zo2tk Germany and the allies lost Russia won.
This is one of the first great TV miniseries. Amazing to watch it again. I read the book too.
“No thank you mister. That is your business. Not mine”. Remembered essentially that line since I first saw it 40 years ago. Just couldn’t remember her exact words.
Fun fact: at 18:45 we can hear one of the only recordings of the now abandoned Los Angeles cold war siren system. The siren heard is a Federal Signal SD-10 (made in the 50's), the most widespread siren in the LA County. (the other sirens in the background are British Carter sirens from WW2) The movie was made just 2 years before the LA siren system was shut down and left abandoned.
*Can you tell me 'How many bowel-movements' I've had in 68-yrs.?*
*That should be a 'Fun Fact' as well!*
@@gerrynightingale9045 There's got to be one at every party.
@@darthnarodnik *Yes, there does 'have to be one'...at least one*
The thing about this mini series is many of the actors lived it They saw the war and it’s effects and could use their experiences to make this drama more realistic
I agree.
A few people commenting have said they didn't like Ali MacGraw's performance in The Winds of War and found her irritating. You have to remember that her character Natalie Jastrow was a very headstrong and impulsive young woman, one who didn't give much thought to how her actions and decisions affected other people. As far as I'm concerned, Ali MacGraw's performance captured Natalie's immature character perfectly. I'm sorry that she was replaced by Jane Seymour in War and Remembrance.
Polly Bergen had an equally difficult character to portray in Rhoda Henry, and I think she captured her perfectly. Rhoda was a shallow, social-climbing manipulator, and I'm so glad Pug found happiness with the lovely Pamela Tudsbury, played by Victoria Tennant. Loved their wedding at the Naval Academy Chapel in Annapolis.
I missed Ali in War and Remembrance as well. It would have been amazing to see her go through that transformation.
I agree; MacGraw in my opinion plays Natalie just right. She’s every bit as imperious and reckless as Wouk wrote her, and she does have a rather compelling quality-hence Slote’s turmoil.
McGraw's performance was lousy, not her character. Polly Bergen did a much better job. The difference between an actor & an amateur.
Absolutely she fits as does the English lady. Most viewers today don’t understand how a Jew was perceived until after the war and there is a continual tension here that captures it. Ali pulls it off very well as does Mitchum.
couldnt agree more about ali and also loved jan michael vincent. those two on fire! replacements were milk toast.
Love the book and this series
I love the music. It’s such a shame that Jan Vincent destroyed his life with substance abuse. This is an excellent series.
*If I were in all the 'sh!t movies' he was in...I 'd drink myself to death too!*
Jan Michael’s whole persona in the movie is as a California surf bum.
agreed about jan (rip) and adore the music really captures what characters are going thru.
Omg I just researched what happened with him since I was just a baby when he was at the height of his career. Very very sad. Don't do drugs folks. 😢
@@simonf8902 In 1978 he was in a film called Big Wednesday. And guess what, he played a California beach bum.
"der Feuersturm" und "Feuersturm und Asche" (so die Deutschen Titel von "winds of war" und "war and remembrance") sollten unbedingt im Fernsehen wieder gebracht werden
On the plus side, I love the cream colored outfits and tailoring.
That slight raised eyebrow reaction on Pug's face at 14:18 after FDR says "We'll have to." about American involvement in the European War. Can only imagine what he must have been thinking.
l have never disliked a charater more than l do Natalie,l just wanted someone to give her a good shake 😣..sorry Allie Mc graw 💐🧡
She's a complete pain in the ass. Amazingly self-centered and clueless.
And Byron is none too smart.
They kinda deserve each other.
It's just that she is playing a self centered woman just as Polly Bergen is playing a shallow woman.
She's too stupid to react to a shaking. Maybe a spanking? Nah.
Hard to believe she is 43 in this movie. Real age
Her acting is cringy. She says her lines the exact way, just the words are different. Cringy to watch. Surely someone else noticed in Hollywood ?
I come across this war episode regarding the 2 world war the acting is second to none we'll put together my old time favourite they don't make movies like this anymore
I know that a lot of people loved the books and the series, a good friend of mine recommended them to me, I tried to read the "Winds of War", but that woman Natalie was so aggravating that I couldn't finish it. So far, I'm doing fine with skipping her parts in the videos, other than her I'm liking this.
I honestly don't understand your statement. Firstly if Natalie irritates you to scroll past her part betrays a taste for comfort zone characters in a drama rather than a variety of personalities and secondly she is the kind of woman who most thinking men admire. She reminds me of my mother who lived through WWII and always had a hands on approach tempered with independence to everything she did including marrying a Polish airman in the U.K.
@@2011littlejohn1 We each have our own opinion of that character, in my opinion she needed to take the circumstances that were in front of her more seriously, she needed to see the big picture of what was happening in the world.
Well actually binding wounds in a war zone does qualify as to being aware of what was happening. But I still don't get understand your attitude about scrolling past her parts - if you didn't like her character then the actress was successfully acting. One thing that did happen regarding the big picture which is now ignored is that - the allies lost WWII in Europe.
@@nancyhammons3594 Please keep in mind that we all are looking at the characters through the eyes filled with knowledge of history. Natalie is wilful, spoiled and manipulative toward men who are clearly infatuated with her, but she is also a child of her upbringing and time. Millions of people more intelligent and worldly, with greater life experience could not and would not believe that the horror of WW2 could happen, that civilised Germany would inflict such decimation and suffering. Those blinkers will come off with vengeance- we know that, but the Characters did not.
SNAFU: WoW what an Abbreviation for Regular Word's. I Recall hearing that Expression Oh Forty Year's ago, and then in this Series' and Reading it in Monthly Periodicals I use too Buy to Add to My Library Collection on the Second WORLD WAR. Boy was that Decade's Ago. Then at 20:00 minutes into Part Two? Byron & Natalie, Seating Out the Bombing Raid on Warsaw. IT Seemed So Real almost like it was Starting Again.
I Can't Help but Think 💬🤔 of How My Parent's & Relative's took it Even almost Thirty to Forty Year's, after they'd probably been Exposed too it possibly Before, and in Real Situations. Ahh Shucks I'm just over Analyzing, & Mulling thing's through.
Thank You for Airing the Mini Series Again. 🇨🇦🇺🇸👍😎👍🙏🙏🙏🙏
I am so happy to find this. I saw it once before but it nice to see it again.
Read the books and watched the series when I was in high school. Completely cemented my views on Nazism and what is good and evil. Amazing, epochal books and TV series as well.
You reminded me to read it again only fifty years later.
So there's a book! That's why the film is so good.🇦🇷
*"Enough is always a feast for a fool"*
@@ermindaarata3903 two books, tv show
I saw it when it was on the air the first time 40 years ago and I had for gotten how wonderful it is.
Yes I so looked forward to the next part.
I to saw it on the air. I have not forgotten. Have watched it at least a dozen times since. I never tire of it. Should be required every generation.
I agree it was made 40 years away from the events, the Winds of Change had not happened in Eastern Europe and we are watching this 40 years on in the new century and it looks like Ukraine 2022.
I loved the scene late in this episode when Mitchum's character tells the rude waiter to stop.
Mitchum was the coolest of all the cool cats. My favorite memory of him was an interview with Dick Cavett-- so calm and easy and smooth in his words and movements. Cavitt asked him what was the secret of his 40 year marriage and as he casually lit another smoke Mitchum off-handedly answered "deviousness".
You can't get away with complaining about substandard service today... You'll be told to leave and they'll call the cops. How things have changed. Not for the better...
I would not have eaten the dessert though :-)
*He would've had his ass 'handed to him' by fifty Germans for daring to open his 'bloated ass mouth' in public is far more likely to have happened*
*Even Einstein himself, who was born and raised in Germany and by the late 1930's was the most esteemed 'Thinker' in the World was warned 'Never come back' because "You'll be dragged down streets by your hair and beaten to death" from many friends who were still there*
Der vaiter vas yust obeying orders.
I read the books when they were first published, gave them to my teenaged daughter to read. Such magnificent books. I have a hard time reading war and remembrances, the brutality in the death camps is heartbreaking,
I did too. Amazing reads
I could barely read war and Remembrance, or watch the video of the horrible things that happened. Still consider books best I have read
"I'm not an imbecile Byron" - You most certainly are Natalie.
The biggest narcissist and lots of other adjectives I’ve ever seen on screen or in person.
I’ve always thought Ali McGraw acted that part well. She well portrayed an annoying, self-absorbed companion and I thought she did it well.
@@bonnie3656 I agree, she nailed the selfish princess character.
Says a taliban sympathiser
The scene when the Germans stage a feast/dinner for the non-belligerent evacuees is grotesque. But very effective in terms of a mise en scene.
Nazis were sadists.
My father in law was in Warsaw, never could speak of it all. Great man🇬🇧
You forgot to say when he was in Warsaw or what happened. As it is, the statement is meaningless.
Polly Bergen was so excellent in this series. A talented lady, RIP.
I worked for Rayette Division of Faberge in 1968 - 1983.
Polly Bergen was on the Roundable as a senior important female pushing het makeup line for Faberge's senior Board of Diirectors personnel. Her cosmetic line never moved too well.
I was tasked with running the Rayette Division of Faberge's company store. Prices of Faberge products and Aqua Net Hair Spray and other multi-named hair sprays were authorized to be sold at "reduced emplyee prices". A csn of 12 oz hairspray was 35 cents. However, Cary Grant was also on the Board of Directors. I met him at a Stockholders Board of Directiors mtg, St Paul, MN mtg. Our commanality is that at that mtg, we both had younng daughters named Jennifer. A total coincidence and I pray she is doing ok. My daughter is now 49 yrs olf. I hope that i havent board you with my memory and story.
He was a warm, handsome amd pleasing aquaintence.
He supported his commited position as a board position on the Board of Directors of Fabege.
Our
@@lettiee4726 :. What an interesting story! Thank you for sharing.
I have more sympathy for Rhoda on this viewing. Life for military wives is difficult and Pug was a buttoned up guy. But Rhoda blew it dumping Palmer. The guy she ended up with was a jerk.
@@lettiee4726 Fantastic story. I love reading stuff like this. Thank you.
I thought she was the most annoying and least realistic character in the whole series . . . Apart from Bob Mitchum.
Thank you for uploading this.
It was made before I was born.
The very best ever. Watching yet again 2017. ♡♡♡
And still watching in 2019
I have to agree. I'm now watching it yet again and every time I watch it would appear to get better and better.
I can no longer remember how many times I have watched this, Never tire, Mitchum is a giant.
Best depiction of FDR ever.
I just figured it out, Ali’s still playing the Love Story character, cheesy vanilla Baloney.
Natalie Is nuts..Byron run from her as fast as you can! 😳
Not as nuts as Aaron. Beryl is the only sane one, he told them GET OUT!
@@nhmooytis7058 : Perfect metaphor for the "woke." Rich, pretty, headstrong, self-absorbed and arrogant. Clueless about how real world works. Crying out for "peace and security," as sudden destruction comes. Sound familiar?
@@dstrong5897 here the correct definition of „woke“ for you: „alert to injustice in society, especially racism“. Natalie is not woke, she is a typical American, believes in her American exceptionalism, self absorbed, unworldly, entitled, self centered, arrogant. And if you do not like this description of an American, maybe start using woke correctly, and do not give it your right wing interpretation. There is nothing wrong in being alert to social injustice and against racism.
@@dstrong5897 depressingly so.
It's like Jessica Rabbit said, "I'm bad, I was drawn that way".
LOL 😆
Natalie is showing narcissistic tendencies when she wants her way and won't accept how dangerous things are or care about others' feelings.
@fred McMurray I wouldn't say that. Pampered men are just as bad.
She’s just a typical spoiled airhead that had always got her way one way or the other with everyone especially men and she’s like a bumper sticker I saw. “No matter how pretty she is somebody somewhere is sick of her shit”! lol she’s selfish as hell even if she gets everyone around her killed.
fred McMurray I’ve never seen a bitch like this when the shooting starts even the biggest bitchs ive known wasn’t crazy as hell like her.
@fred McMurray yea I wouldn't say typical female... she def is not the majority... 2 b honest most females like if they man cares and tries to protect them at all cost, this 1 cheats on her man 4 it smh 🤦🏽♂️
Wow, I was just about to speak on that . Not only that, but the triangulation between the 2 men . Also the back and forth wishy washy love scene with Byron . I could go on, but her character screams Narcissism .
That loud mouth Natalie calling Brian out for a bad risk lol. And she a crazy loud mouth fool just her uncle who got deeper and deeper into trouble.
Natalie was an annoying character. It made it hard for me to see what Aaron and Byron each saw in her.
LBF522 She was sexy and pretty and most men don’t look any further lol. lol 😆
Aaron and Natalie were both naïve and arrogant - a truly bad combination. Natalie was also a spoiled brat.
@@jyndev4570 Absolutely! I had no sympathy for her later on when she was trapped there.
LBF522 Well Ali McGraw was a nymph in real life, but nothing like this character. She lives in New Mexico, now. But she played a real bitch here, her and Brian’s mother proving that men marry women like their mothers.
My God, Ali McGraw couldn't act her way through an open door. Jan Michael-Vincent wasn't much better, so it was smart to pair them up; that way they ruined less of the whole.
She was pretty good in Love Story
She plays the same character in everything.
Yes she is terrible. So is her character.
Robert Mitchum was an over rated actor his whole career.
@@jerryrolen9639 change one word and you'll have it right.
Back for another look. I love the restaurant scene. What restaurant these days could afford a small orchestra. The attention to detail in this series is really good, better than in many movies.
I would have tied Natalie to the front of one of those guns ! ! ! WHAT A FLIP CASE ........
I sort of thought she should have been pulling the donkey cart.
Isn’t she an idiot and Bryan playing the hero. lol.
The hot south winds of war are blowing again today..different players same objectives..
Topel was great and very believable.
Topol.
Berel was a real hero!
I love how in the bombing raid on Warsaw, the window gets blown in and the apartment is falling apart, Byron casually stands up and shoves the books back on the bookshelf.
Ralph bellamy in the whole series was fkn brilliant as the u.s president, robert mitchum great actor , meisner shouldve been adolf in the 2nd part as well, but the winds of war and war and rememberance is 1 of the greatest longest mini series ever made of ww2, got them both, used to watch them bk in the 80,s 10/10 for curtis making it from herman,s book, great star casts in both episodes
I saw maybe two thirds of this series first time around, I agree this should be shown again to remind us what happened from 1933 to 1945, Americans forget Nazis didn't just show up after December 7th 1941... Holocaust denyers need to be shut down.
Many have commented about Pug Henry stopping the sloppy waiter in his tracks. In my experience, one doesn't become an O-6 without having a command presence.
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@@margaretlore2008 ensign 01, lt jg 02, lt 03 lt cdr 04, cdr 04
You are correct
Pug gets promoted later on - Regardless my grandfather Captain George Birdt (regular navy) definitely had a commanding presence.
I know he was really pissed, but he did what he had to do. It was a public setting and if they had done what the others had suggested - “let’s just leave” - it would have been all over Berlin that a waiter caused the American military attaché to turn tail and run. Standing up to the waiter and drawing a line was the correct action. He appealed to the head waiter on the basis of diplomatic and professional protocol, and the German understood and accepted that to the extent that he publicly reprimanded the waiter. Note the respect of the other diners.
@@fett333 many thanks for your grandfather for his service and respect. If it weren’t for heroes like him we would enjoy the freedoms that we have today.
Natalie is just a head strong woman who knows her own mind. A very intelligent and interesting. Most people r threatened by others like her. I am intrigued by her . Always have been. Love Herman Would books.
"All Jews to the restaurant!"
A good day to be an American.
Too many forget that most days are good days to be an American. Perhaps not every day, but most.
They're in Warsaw, right. The Germans have just decimated the countryside and overrun Warsaw. Air-raid sirens sound, against all procedures, they run to the windows (instead of the basement, what one is supposed to do) open them, the thundering sound of hundreds of airplanes comes through and Natalie says, "Do you think they are coming here?" Duh, where else would the bombers be going. So they leave the window open and sit down for a cigarette break. Then after the window is now closed. Its all too fantastic.
Exactly. This is a Hollywood fantasy. And people think it's a realistic depiction.
Haha. I loved how they casually sat on the couch in front of a mirror and under a rattling chandelier. That really had my horn honking haha!
I absolutely agree they were real morons.
Great series amazing acting all of them could watch hours and hours more.
Pug was THE MAN during that restaurant scene. Amazing!
I watched this when I was young when it first premiered. I forgot just how good the miniseries is.
One of the bests scenes in this episode is when Pug tells off the waiter.
Oh, wow, yes. I go backwards to watch it again. Pug is the man. 😎
@@littlebrookreader949 I watched this when it first aired in Feb. 1983, and remember that scene well, it was so well done. I was 18 then.
Admiral material ?
The head waiter's response is exactly on. No European trained head waiter can tolerate swinishness.
Absolutely! Have/am just at the moment of watching it….Robert Mitchum is absolutely stupendous! God bless him and his memory R.I.P…THAT is a fine example of self-control, keeping your powder dry, hearing them out to see what they’re really are like, wait and hold your fire till you see the whites of their utterly soulless evil eyes, then let ´em have it, blast ´em out, life isn’t worth living with #scum like that around, and that goes for ALL totalitarians in their grate palaces while other poor wretches are poisened, saved only to be put in prison Mister Putin….
Such a great tv series!!!!!!!!! How about a war and remembrance upload?
You can find it now ... greetings from 2020
War and Remembrance is already on RUclips
Best mini series I’ve seen and Lonesome Dove was tremendous.
I miss the mini series. They were always fun to watch.
Natalie at 58:20: “Slote said Stockholm or Berlin, huh? Well, I’d kind of like to see Berlin myself.” Did she think this was some sort of grand adventure and she’d be untouched because she’s an American? Wtf?
I love how Natalie refers to Byron as a "boy" when in reality, Jan-Michael Vincent was 37 years old when The Winds of War was filmed.
and she was about 45
@@elizabethjohnston1051 Yep. No one in the cast was the right age for the characters they were playing. Robert Mitchum was way older than what Victor Henry was supposed to be.
@@44excalibur Yea, I like Mitchum but the scene with the beautiful blonde in her apartment just didn't really work. She was believable and her eyes were just all soft for him but he wasn't playing his part, he seemed cold and distant. And Natalie is driving me nuts.
I was just thinking - this show came out 39 years ago now, that's the same difference between 1900 and when Hitler invaded Poland. Imagine all that happened between those two time periods and that's how long it's been since this was released.
56:16 "What on Earth have you been doing in Warsaw? Ah Sightseeing....." Funny, but true in every war that civilians get caught up in advancing armies and get in the way.
The german didn't say "Russia", byron was never in Russia, the German said "Warsaw", just his accent.
When the German general mentioned the oil fields.
That line was extremely important.
As Germany during WWII were importing 70% of their oil.
It became the reason why Germany lost the war.
That was a minor cause. They had plenty of fuel at the end. It lost because it lost the battle for the North Atlantic, allowing the US to supply Russia and Britain, and, keep them in the war. It lost because we turned out Liberty ships in just days, instead of months, because the converted River Rouge plant owned by Ford could turn out B-25's like automobiles. It was the productive capacity of the US, and the Allied control of the sea lanes that sealed Hitler's fate.
@@keithkuckler2551 you missed the importance of oil fields. Just like Israel and their dependence on the Palestinian labor force, Japan's dependence on natural resources, European dependence on natural gas. Germany wouldn't have had lots of oil toward the end of the war, had they lost a few more battles early on. And when the Romanian oil fields suffered crippling bombing, the Germans were hard pressed to feed their tank fleet. Because by this time, the Luftwaffe was crushed, and Kreigsmarine didn't leave port.oil was vital to any military effort. This is what galls most Americans above the president of certain parties spend the strategic oil reserves like its theirs when in fact its design was for the military and the navy specifically. Nuclear power was a game changer. Detrimental reliance on oil, can and does control much of the developed and developing world.
@@keithkuckler2551 I will agree with your statement s that the U.S. outproduced the rest of the world. But it's also true, the U.S. did not experience acts of sabotage or nightly bombing, supply shortages, labor problems, and that the congress wrote a blank check which is why we are screwed today.
@@jeffreycoulter4095 USA profited massively from WW2. This led to 1950s wealth, trustafarian hippies and the 1950s superiority that Trump is trying to sell as a replicatable reality. Watch Robert Newman History of Oil on RUclips for a very funny and perceptive read on how oil caused ww1 and WW2
Hence why Army group South was made to go into Stalingrad . To capture those oil fields, that alone would have turned the war in Germanys favor .
I hope whoever cast Natalie was fired
Byron and Natalie seem naive about what is going on around them especially Natalie.
I just can't see how Pug has that many kids after seeing Mrs. Henry.