Michum overshadows anyone in a room, without a word said. At the same time > He doesn't have to move alot or anything just speak his lines & he does that with ease & perfect timing. 👌 ❤ When one has the " It " factor they have it. Nothing to learn ... It's just there.
Oh, I think Hitler and especially Churchill outshine Tug's taciturn demeanor, just as it should. His dismissal of the likelihood that Germany will declare war on the United States over the destroyers sets off Churchill's candid remark that it's not something than can be HOPED for is very well done on both sides. Of course, Germany did declare war on the United States in the wake of the Pearl Harbor attack.
@@SeattlePioneeryou DO realize Pug is a FICTIONAL character, right?? Pug was created by Herman Wouk to ENCAPSULATE the historic fictional plot to bring a human side to the war.
It is hard to believe that such a quality program was made for television. I have been a student of WW2 most of my life, and i love the details portrayed in this excellent series.
Despite his status in this series, Robert mitchum doesn't have his usual obnoxious swagger. His acting is pleasantly understated, also. Ali Mc Graw must be the worst actress they could have chosen---she was also too old for the boyish Byron and the part, in total. Herman Wouk did the screenplay. Would he have created such a classless, superficial airhead like Rhoda for a naval officer's wife? Maybe. Very well done, otherwise.
@@mariepaone9557 He did. When I read the novels I became fascinated with his treatment of his female characters. I was tempted to write him a letter about that, but by that time he was nearly 100 years old and I did not really expect an answer.
Both series Winds of War and War and Remembrance were fantastic mini-series done old school with great casts and screenplay adaption from Wouk's two huge books.
In the book there are more detailed descriptions which some might skip but as a history major I read all and learned much I didn’t in my college courses on WWII.
Watching this and then there were giants gives you a real feel for what was going on politically around that part in the war. True WW2 gems to watch and both available on here.
The 2 novels by Herman Wouk are both masterworks of historic fiction. And, Dan Curtis did an incredible job bringing both to the screen. I read both novels over a weekend , & I saw both TV series . The best TV, ever. -------------------MJL, 75 y/o
I love history. This movie gave a personal touch that brought them to light, as well as the small insights into those lives intertwined into that time that were in it, but not inside the fence. Aware, but not in mesh.
Prior to the development of long range fighters, bombing Germany was one of the most dangerous duties of the war. The British mortality rate per mission was 4%, which translates to 70% across the standard tour of thirty missions. Once the United States entered the war, American bombers flew the even more dangerous daytime missions. The mortality rate across a standard tour of twenty-five daytime missions was over 100%, meaning that surviving a tour was a fluke. Their valor was unmatched.
I finished war and remembrance a few weeks ago and was lucky to find this posted after I competed it so I am watching it now. This series fills in some questions I had about it. Between watching this one and war and remembrance I have realized how tough things were on a global scale back then. Thank you for posting this!
Great historical novel, well researched and presented. Saw it on TV when it came out around 1980 and it still impresses me. Great acting job by Robert Mitchum and all the rest.
This and war and remembrance are a classic which is really worth watching.Robert Mitchum is the best actor selected.The way he carried himself and played his role as a father was excellent.As nowadays fathers do not take their commitment and their stances at home seriously.ln real life his family background was not good.But he sure is a one man woman married to only one.For actors it's amazing.
Here’s a shout-out for the late David Dukes. He didn’t have Mitchum’s presence by a long shot, but of the other principal characters he had the most experience and was by far the most polished.
Slow down a little bit I don’t know about other men but I take my commitment to my child and to my wife very seriously. But you’re absolutely correct this is a very good series.
Hitler took speaking lessons from a famous German Opera singer and also from an acting group.. Facts he took great pains to keep secret during his lifetime.
In 1940 FDR was 58, Bellamy was 79 in 1983...a little old, but he did a fabulous job-as he had 20 years before in Sunrise at Campobello. Mitchum was older than Pug in the book, but was made for role!
In the photos of FDR in 40 and 41 he looks at least 75 by 1980s visual standards. Polio can do that. His patriotic movie image in "Holiday Inn" he looks close to death and that was in 42. The actress that portrayed Mrs Roosevelt did a great job here. I don't care for the silly beauty washing they've given her in recent movies.
I think that Pug was born in 1892. Awfully old for Pamela . . . Polly Bergen did an excellent job as Rhoda; seeing that she was a hoe herself she did a great job of being a hoe.
I have seen this movie in the 80s.l still will say Robert Mitchum is a versatile actor.In real life most men put their duties and service first.Thus it affects wife and children.Thus women go astray and there is a break down in the family relationship.But with a past still Robert Mitchum could strive to rise up that is real life.But his past haunted him thus he smoked heavily.He passed away a lose to humanity.Such actors and good stories like this are no more.I am thankfull You tube has made this possible.
This show is superb and addictive. Id put this at the top 5 mini series. North and South. Centennial. Roots is comparable to its excellence if writting.
Love it . Watched it in the 80’s have this and “ War and Remembrance “ on DVD. Amazing,fantastic! This is a great opportunity to see this on this channel..” War and Remembrance “ the final chapter is reverting!! In parts, more so than “ Schindler’s List” think it was the soundtrack! I think Ali McGraw was with Steve McQueen, too bad he helped nose dive her career. Jane Seymour was very good, though… Ah, Robert Mitchum! You’re right, never had to say much…such a great series! 80’s and 90’s has the best.
I agree he was a good actor and had the mannerisms and such, but he played a very old FDR. FDR was only 59 in 194 and Bellamy was in his late 70s here.
@@robertyates9500 But FDR looked real old in the photos I’ve seen of him. My parents thought he hung the moon., he caused them and millions others to go democratic.
I loved the shot of Mitchem in the plane while they're trying to get out of the search lights... such a terrifying moment for all in there and you see his lips begin to speak..."Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name..."
I was born at the end of war but can still remember seeing the distinction left behind evan the air raid shelters a school, this movie shows just how it was and I can feel like I was there. Great movie thank you very much.
The opening scene marks the final appearance of veteran character actor Ken Lynch, who appeared in almost 200 movies and television programs going back to 1947. Among the strong suits of the production was the decision to go with established working actors, even in bit parts. While this must have added to the expense, it paid off over and over.
I have the DVD set and watch both mini series a couple of times a year. I have studied WW2 for almost fifty years, it fascinates me. The greatest cataclysm of all time. And in the years 1941to1942, things could have gone badly wrong. Russia almost collapsed twice; Churchill had a no confidence vote. IT was closer than many realize even today now that everything has finally been declassified; decades after it should have been.
I seen on here a mini series about his mother Lady Jennie Churchill and the series depicted his father always putting Winston down and telling Winston how useless he was and how he would never ever amount to anything. His father was suffering from Syphilis and back in the day they had no antibiotics , may have had infection in his brain , but he was emotionally and verbally abusive to Winston, no matter what Winston was never good enough in his fathers eye's.
I remember this television series,I was too busy living a fast life.its a great group of what sounds and looks like real documented history.the actors are all great ,Robert mitchum couldn't do his part any better.im viewing it ,all episodes,I'm 72 ,retired and an artist.reading is only second to my art career.
1:18 That scene feels very authentic. I can imagine the camaraderie and easy laugh masking what everyone knows lies ahead. Gotta hand it to these guys; they weren't cowards.
In the books Rhoda and Natalie are both wonderfully complex characters- not one dimensional like portrayed here. Ali's acting is ghastly- Jane Seymour was welcome change. But Bergen also portrayed very limited version of Rhoda- it is like a caricature of a type of a woman- no insights that one would expect from actress of her caliber.
Yes I think Ali was just re-doing Love Story with all that cheesy dialogue. So the books characters weren’t spoiled narcissist airheads? Actually I thought that Roda wasn’t quite as silly but I don’t.
@@ronniebishop2496 I thought the same about some of the characters too, they seem so self centered. Byron is really immature, maybe he's better in the books.
I’ve never thought she was entirely horrible, just an uneven performance. I think it’s more accountable to poor direction - if you watch The Getaway from 1972, she was quite good. Perhaps Curtis just didn’t have a good bead on Natalie as a character. And yes, Jane was a LOT better.
Jugbuster haha a lot of people were badly casted ..he is so old makes it kind of funny. Second time i watched the show i began to like him . He kicks ass without Pug world war 2 would be lost haha
@@umpman04 Couldn't agree more with re Pug. Heck, I don't even like the moniker. The amazing thing to me is that although I agree with you and so have some men, the women can't seem to get enough of him. Go figure.
Not really Natalie is about the same age as Pamela which makes them both 4-5 years older than Byron. Pamela is 29 at the beginning of the series, making Byron about 24-25. The actor is 39!
M not surprised the sequel dropped Ali McGraw. She had a few moments of good acting, but as a whole, not that great. Houseman and Mitchum stole the show by a very long, long shot.
How much pain could have been avoided if the men in her life had learned to tell Natalie 'No!'? She is so utterly spoiled and manipulative. That coupled with her naivety and arrogance created a terrible outcome.
her uncle told her no when she came to get him back to the US. That led directly to his demise in the gas chamber and her brutal treatment in the camps.
Ok she's fictitious however, what was the fictitious attraction? She's hardly young, or a sexy goddess or has a kind persona! Jane is more likeable as a compassionate person. Ali's Natalie possessed NO nice qualities.
Fact check: FDR was not a day drinker and his martinis were execrable . Also, he didn’t get many adoring looks from Eleanor after 1918, when she discovered his affair with Lucy Mercer.
@@TampaDave LOL! Stupid auto-correct. “Execrable” is the word. Apparently, Roosevelt made legendarily awful martinis that his guests dutifully drank. I had just read a biography of him, which inspired me to rewatch WOW. The martini scene was in a whole new light.
At 26 minutes and five seconds he couldn’t meet her at the airport because the old part was having his nap. His middle name is procrastination he ends up dying in a concentration camp and he brought it on himself.
When I saw this in the mid-1980s, I was a 30 year old single woman. For the life of me, I couldn't understand what Pamela saw in Pug. I still don't and now I'm 66. But then, I never cared for older men.
Pam was around men of action so the other men didn't impress her. Victor was always in the middle of the important things going on around her. Never putting himself on her, keeping up his morality.
I am Australian. Some of my teachers in secondary school in the sixties had flown bombers over Germany for the RAF. They all had a strong belief in God!
I'd make the same argument about Rhonda Henry. All that woman wants to do during the whole thing is drink and go to parties. When Victor hooked up with Pamela Tudsbury it was definitely an upgrade
I thought Ali was perfectly fine. I have always thought she got a bad rap for this. The character was a you-know-what and the Slotes and the Byrons were just young guys thinking with some part of their anatomy other than the part between their ears.
I enjoyed the Winds of War, they tried to follow the book. I also loved Victor “Pug” Henry though I had to suspend utter reality because when the story starts Commander Victor Henry had been a Naval Officer since 1915 when he graduated from Annapolis, he was 46 years old, Rhoda his wife was 43 in the book and a trophy wife. Robert Mitchum was 66 years old when the Mini series was made and though he was fit he looked over 60. Mandatory retirement for the military is 64 and that’s for Flag Officers. They needed a big name for the production, Paul Newman was interested in the part he would have looked the part, (he was in his mid 50s at the time) but Mitchum is a great actor, he really looked old 5 years later when they filmed “War & Remembrance.”
@@Watchman36 in the novel Byron had just turned 22 so he would have been born in 1917 in the book and he was played by Jan Michael Vincent who was 39 when the mini series was filmed.
Interesting fact: the mini-blimps over the river were used to hold up cables that would prevent enemy fighter planes from passing too low for an attack.
I presume that's an American version of "Bless 'em All' being sung at 5.50 ? Weird lyrics - talking about 'cookies' The chorus is; Bless 'em all, Bless 'em all. The long and the short and the tall, Bless all those Sergeants and WO1's, (Sergeant Majors) Bless all those Corporals and their blinkin'/bleedin' sons, Cos' we're saying goodbye to 'em all. And back to their Billets they crawl, You'll get no promotion this side of the ocean, So cheer up my lads bless 'em all
I have loved this since the beginning and I love war and remembrance.Ihave always loved history and the civil war and world war 2. Robert Mitchum served in world war 2 in the Army not the Navy interesting thought about this
It is noteworthy how they handled the martini scene at (3:40). FDR makes martinis for himself, Pug and Eleanor, and Eleanor accepts the glass, but never sips from it. It's as if she were trying to present herself as a social drinker before a visitor, without pointing out that she did not drink (because of her father's problems with alcohol.)
That guy Pugh sure had a great war...Meeting all the top nazis, going to parties, flying on bombing missions, being there for churchill's first draft of his most memorable speech and banging a hot young driver...Peace time must have been a real downer for him...
I Don't believe they used the term con-trail, probably they used vapour trail.? This otherwise is a very well made movie,interesting and informative . Thanks for the showing,now to find the rest of the series. Be Blessed.
Too bad they don't redo this in HiDef like Lonsome Dove was you see details never could see in the 1980;s TV these were shot on film back then so there is a 35mm negative. Ralph Bellamy as Roosevelt was good. In this episode see how British Radar gave England the edge over Germany their bombers didn't have a chance. The spitfires and Hurricane fighters were perfect island defenders quickly rise and attack the poorly defended German bombers. Because of the channel the Germans could not use their blitzkrieg armored forces in close conjunction with the air cover.
I think that this is a copy of a copy. I have watched it many times and do not remember it ever being this bad. I gave away my copy on DVD but I have located it and will borrow it back. It is available on DVD on Amazon but for $50-.
@@rascallyrabbit8548 I know. I found about it an hour ago. I was at the movies tonight with my sister and her two kids; we were seeing the new SPIDERMAN movie and before it was shown, even before the preview of coming attractions were shown, we saw a commercial with Betty White in it advertising for her 100th birthday which was supposed to be this January 17,. She was getting ready to have a big birthday bash for herself and the Hollywood elite she was gonna invite. How sad.
@@67nairb Yes it's very sad and heartbreaking news especially when she was going to be 100 years old on January 17th. For a person her age she was so vibrant and active. I consider her to be very young since I believe that people don't get to be called old until they are at least over A MILLION YEARS OLD. And that what I call MIDDLE AGED PEOPLE. I know that I am old because I don't have a BIRTH CERTIFICATE instead I have a CERTIFICATE OF ANTIQUITIES.
It has been decades since I last read the books I have seen the mini-series many times since. However, I think the Jastrows were intended to represent so many who were in denial. Many of the characters were caricatures.
At times. and it's especially true in this new 21st century, America can only pull together only at times of war. Power reveals the true essence of a person.
Michum overshadows anyone in a room, without a word said. At the same time > He doesn't have to move alot or anything just speak his lines & he does that with ease & perfect timing. 👌 ❤ When one has the " It " factor they have it. Nothing to learn ... It's just there.
Oh, I think Hitler and especially Churchill outshine Tug's taciturn demeanor, just as it should.
His dismissal of the likelihood that Germany will declare war on the United States over the destroyers sets off Churchill's candid remark that it's not something than can be HOPED for is very well done on both sides.
Of course, Germany did declare war on the United States in the wake of the Pearl Harbor attack.
@@SeattlePioneeryou DO realize Pug is a FICTIONAL character, right?? Pug was created by Herman Wouk to ENCAPSULATE the historic fictional plot to bring a human side to the war.
It is hard to believe that such a quality program was made for television. I have been a student of WW2 most of my life, and i love the details portrayed in this excellent series.
Despite his status in this series, Robert mitchum doesn't have his usual obnoxious swagger. His acting is pleasantly understated, also. Ali Mc Graw must be the worst actress they could have chosen---she was also too old for the boyish Byron and the part, in total. Herman Wouk did the screenplay. Would he have created such a classless, superficial airhead like Rhoda for a naval officer's wife? Maybe. Very well done, otherwise.
Which details?..
@@mariepaone9557 He did. When I read the novels I became fascinated with his treatment of his female characters. I was tempted to write him a letter about that, but by that time he was nearly 100 years old and I did not really expect an answer.
@Bella Adamowicz I bet they could spell, "wives", at least.
@Bella Adamowicz Not much, apparently.
I am enjoying this series immensely. Including the background music, Thank You Again 👏👏👏❤️
Both series Winds of War and War and Remembrance were fantastic mini-series done old school with great casts and screenplay adaption from Wouk's two huge books.
oldskool,. I hate that. I hated school, but I had to go if I wanted to support myself.
@elizabethmartin4328 So what does that have to do with your review or opinions on War and Remembrance and Winds of War?
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@@elizabethmartin4328 scheisse. Grown-ups are talking, be quiet.
Robert Mitchum is absolutely magnificent in this
The greatest I’ve watched this series when it first made it first showing and each year I watch both series on RUclips each year every year
I agree. He fit Pug Henry well.
Indeed, same for Cary Grant !
He was, but he was way to old to play Pug.
@@abhcoat you know he was a chronic weed user may be he needed the money to continue his drug use
What I like most are the historical narratives between scenes, they are very educational.
Absolutely. The characters keep us aware of exactly what is happening with smart dialogue that provides a great exposition
In the book there are more detailed descriptions which some might skip but as a history major I read all and learned much I didn’t in my college courses on WWII.
Watching this and then there were giants gives you a real feel for what was going on politically around that part in the war. True WW2 gems to watch and both available on here.
United States was in a state of Isolationism but then later they get involved and thanks to those American heroes many in the Holocaust survived.
Yes, but what a bunch of comic book villains the Nazis are. Laughable except that they took themselves so seriously
The 2 novels by Herman Wouk are both masterworks of historic fiction. And, Dan Curtis did an incredible job bringing both to the screen. I read both novels over a weekend , & I saw both TV series . The best TV, ever. -------------------MJL, 75 y/o
Dan Curtis was also the producer (and sometime director) of the very successful 60s tv series "Dark Shadows"
Wouk also wrote The Caine Mutiny - another great book and great movie also.
Better than Clancy, maybe?
War and Rembrance was hard to watch with the heavy Concentration Camp segments. But all truth must be told and revealed
You must read faster than I do. That's over 2,000 pages . . .
I love history. This movie gave a personal touch that brought them to light, as well as the small insights into those lives intertwined into that time that were in it, but not inside the fence. Aware, but not in mesh.
a terrific ending scene .. gave me a good feel.for what the airr crews went thru. rip to all those crews including my dad.
Prior to the development of long range fighters, bombing Germany was one of the most dangerous duties of the war. The British mortality rate per mission was 4%, which translates to 70% across the standard tour of thirty missions. Once the United States entered the war, American bombers flew the even more dangerous daytime missions. The mortality rate across a standard tour of twenty-five daytime missions was over 100%, meaning that surviving a tour was a fluke. Their valor was unmatched.
@@PaulGoodeK The British won!
I had a brother and almost lost him. Those men were heroes. I just pray what would happen today with our current president and his administration.
I spoke with Hermon Wouk in St Thomas US Virgin Islands for about 40 minutes. Interestin, friendly and talented man.
Oh my !! You were so fortunate!
Gyy
My late husband sat next to him on a plane, they spoke about my husband's adventures and he recognized himself in the novel " Don't Stop the Carnival"
Thanks for making this available, can’t get enough of WW2 Era movies & shows
This is my second time watching this series it's fantastic
The mini series The Winds of War is a wonderful movie mini series, and historical value as well. I appreciate its availability on RUclips.
I finished war and remembrance a few weeks ago and was lucky to find this posted after I competed it so I am watching it now. This series fills in some questions I had about it. Between watching this one and war and remembrance I have realized how tough things were on a global scale back then.
Thank you for posting this!
they are still
@@Angie.Globetrotterthe world is far more complex today...lots of new powers and new ways of warfare
Great historical novel, well researched and presented. Saw it on TV when it came out around 1980 and it still impresses me. Great acting job by Robert Mitchum and all the rest.
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@@gloriacarey456 Whad'ya mean?
Wouk did the screenplay himself - great adaptation.
No, 1988. I remember when I used to watch the series.
This and war and remembrance are a classic which is really worth watching.Robert Mitchum is the best actor selected.The way he carried himself and played his role as a father was excellent.As nowadays fathers do not take their commitment and their stances at home seriously.ln real life his family background was not good.But he sure is a one man woman married to only one.For actors it's amazing.
Here’s a shout-out for the late David Dukes. He didn’t have Mitchum’s presence by a long shot, but of the other principal characters he had the most experience and was by far the most polished.
Slow down a little bit I don’t know about other men but I take my commitment to my child and to my wife very seriously. But you’re absolutely correct this is a very good series.
@@PaulGoodeK I wasn’t aware David Dukes died thank you for the factoid. He did a very good job in his part in this series.
@@Americanpatriot-zo2tk Dukes died of a heart attack in 2000. At 55, far too young. The embodiment of a pro working actor.
@@PaulGoodeK ty
Gunter Meisner's performance as Hitler was absolutely riveting.
Definitely.
Yeah, he was. Steven Berkoff was a good replacement in War and Rem - really good in the role - but Meisner was the better.
It was a charicature
@@hanschouwman4536 Condisering Hitler crafted his public speaking image... even Hitler's own public persona was a caricature.
Hitler took speaking lessons from a famous German Opera singer and also from an acting group.. Facts he took great pains to keep secret during his lifetime.
Thanks RUclips. Wouldn't have watched this or Then There Were Giants either if I hadn't seen it here. Important for the next generation.
Always loved the home station scene. Great to see a society dedicated to something and working cohesively in a battle for survival amongst nations.
In 1940 FDR was 58, Bellamy was 79 in 1983...a little old, but he did a fabulous job-as he had 20 years before in Sunrise at Campobello. Mitchum was older than Pug in the book, but was made for role!
In the photos of FDR in 40 and 41 he looks at least 75 by 1980s visual standards. Polio can do that. His patriotic movie image in "Holiday Inn" he looks close to death and that was in 42.
The actress that portrayed Mrs Roosevelt did a great job here. I don't care for the silly beauty washing they've given her in recent movies.
Oh, I agree. He played a wonderful F.D.R. ln my humble opinion, this was the best FDR, I've seen. Not only in the look. But speaking also.
I think that Pug was born in 1892. Awfully old for Pamela . . . Polly Bergen did an excellent job as Rhoda; seeing that she was a hoe herself she did a great job of being a hoe.
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I have seen this movie in the 80s.l still will say Robert Mitchum is a versatile actor.In real life most men put their duties and service first.Thus it affects wife and children.Thus women go astray and there is a break down in the family relationship.But with a past still Robert Mitchum could strive to rise up that is real life.But his past haunted him thus he smoked heavily.He passed away a lose to humanity.Such actors and good stories like this are no more.I am thankfull You tube has made this possible.
I have watched this twice. I love this mini series. Thank you for posting.
Mary Beth L third time for me! Never get bored with it!
No complaints this time. Suddenly, its gotten quite good.
Pug hardly acknowledges Mrs Roosevelt initially, who is a poor imitation, interested in dive bombers too? sure doesn't look like the White House
Natalie could drive any man (or woman) insane!
It’s a good mini series! I remember when this came out. I was just a kid. I still enjoy it! War and remembrance is not bad!
This show is superb and addictive. Id put this at the top 5 mini series. North and South. Centennial. Roots is comparable to its excellence if writting.
Love it . Watched it in the 80’s have this and “ War and Remembrance “ on DVD. Amazing,fantastic! This is a great opportunity to see this on this channel..” War and Remembrance “ the final chapter is reverting!! In parts, more so than “ Schindler’s List” think it was the soundtrack! I think Ali McGraw was with Steve McQueen, too bad he helped nose dive her career. Jane Seymour was very good, though… Ah, Robert Mitchum! You’re right, never had to say much…such a great series! 80’s and 90’s has the best.
Man Ralph Bellamy had FDRs actions and mannerisms down pat.
Attitude
Ronnie Bishop, He played FDR in, Sunrise At Campobello.
I agree he was a good actor and had the mannerisms and such, but he played a very old FDR. FDR was only 59 in 194 and Bellamy was in his late 70s here.
@@robertyates9500 But FDR looked real old in the photos I’ve seen of him. My parents thought he hung the moon., he caused them and millions others to go democratic.
I love movies like this. Reminds me of the stories from my great-grandpa and my grandma
I loved the shot of Mitchem in the plane while they're trying to get out of the search lights... such a terrifying moment for all in there and you see his lips begin to speak..."Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name..."
I was born at the end of war but can still remember seeing the distinction left behind evan the air raid shelters a school, this movie shows just how it was and I can feel like I was there. Great movie thank you very much.
I was in kindergarten in 1960 and remember hiding under the stairs in the hallway during air raid sirens.
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Best WW2 Tv Series Ever True Rare Golden Masterpiece that comes along once in a lifetime this it folks it doesn't get better than this
I enjoyed David Dukes as Slote, he had a great character arc!
really enjoy the show. Henry is almost like a time travelling observer.
The narrator
He had to stay neutral.
He has always been my favorite. His route to movies was bumpy but he is always great.
I was wondering about the Monty Python reference. To those who do not know, the tune is called Liberty Bell, and was written by John Phillip Souza
The opening scene marks the final appearance of veteran character actor Ken Lynch, who appeared in almost 200 movies and television programs going back to 1947.
Among the strong suits of the production was the decision to go with established working actors, even in bit parts. While this must have added to the expense, it paid off over and over.
From former USAF, much respect to the RAF, past and present.
I read the book years ago Herman wouck was a great writer and I've seen this show a few times before but I'd probably watch it again
I have the DVD set and watch both mini series a couple of times a year. I have studied WW2 for almost fifty years, it fascinates me. The greatest cataclysm of all time. And in the years 1941to1942, things could have gone badly wrong. Russia almost collapsed twice; Churchill had a no confidence vote. IT was closer than many realize even today now that everything has finally been declassified; decades after it should have been.
"You'll find us all doing the Lambeth Walk..OY!" Love that song and dance!
You have to love Churchill! That guy definitely had a set!
I seen on here a mini series about his mother Lady Jennie Churchill and the series depicted his father always putting Winston down and telling Winston how useless he was and how he would never ever amount to anything. His father was suffering from Syphilis and back in the day they had no antibiotics , may have had infection in his brain , but he was emotionally and verbally abusive to Winston, no matter what Winston was never good enough in his fathers eye's.
@@powerofloveism correct! Yeah it’s called tertiary syphilis.
My grandma's first cousin
I remember this television series,I was too busy living a fast life.its a great group of what sounds and looks like real documented history.the actors are all great ,Robert mitchum couldn't do his part any better.im viewing it ,all episodes,I'm 72 ,retired and an artist.reading is only second to my art career.
Outstanding series. These great movie series need to be shown from time to time.
RUclips did very well to allow this to be on here granted RUclips is a leftist outlet but I do appreciate the download of this series.
These are wonderful. Grat for binge watching when the wife is out of town.
Quality, quality... Unlike much of the crapola today
This is pure gold classic
1:18 That scene feels very authentic. I can imagine the camaraderie and easy laugh masking what everyone knows lies ahead. Gotta hand it to these guys; they weren't cowards.
Thank you for posting! God bless.
I must be an addict. I think this fourth time to watch. I read the book years ago.
I enjoyed this series very much. I have them all on tape.
In the books Rhoda and Natalie are both wonderfully complex characters- not one dimensional like portrayed here. Ali's acting is ghastly- Jane Seymour was welcome change. But Bergen also portrayed very limited version of Rhoda- it is like a caricature of a type of a woman- no insights that one would expect from actress of her caliber.
Yes I think Ali was just re-doing Love Story with all that cheesy dialogue. So the books characters weren’t spoiled narcissist airheads? Actually I thought that Roda wasn’t quite as silly but I don’t.
@@ronniebishop2496 I thought the same about some of the characters too, they seem so self centered. Byron is really immature, maybe he's better in the books.
I thought I was the only one who thought Ali was horrible in this.
I’ve never thought she was entirely horrible, just an uneven performance. I think it’s more accountable to poor direction - if you watch The Getaway from 1972, she was quite good. Perhaps Curtis just didn’t have a good bead on Natalie as a character. And yes, Jane was a LOT better.
@@tommyt1971 Well I think most scenes were very good though rushed. It’s tv.
Great casts and stories. Good writing begets good acting!!
Best mini-series with War and Rememberance..
I actually think War and Remembrance is the better of the two with the extended battle scenes.
@@tommyhemlock7915 it’s the same thing.
Robert Mitchum says Natalie is too old for his son. Yet he is interested in a woman his son's age.
Well good they changed Natalie in part 2 War and remembrance
@@Chriskros1984 They SHOULD HAVE CHANGED PUG TOO.... OLD FART SO MISSCASTED
Jugbuster haha a lot of people were badly casted ..he is so old makes it kind of funny. Second time i watched the show i began to like him . He kicks ass without Pug world war 2 would be lost haha
@@umpman04 Couldn't agree more with re Pug. Heck, I don't even like the moniker. The amazing thing to me is that although I agree with you and so have some men, the women can't seem to get enough of him. Go figure.
Not really Natalie is about the same age as Pamela which makes them both 4-5 years older than Byron. Pamela is 29 at the beginning of the series, making Byron about 24-25. The actor is 39!
Jolly good show old chap.
Much as I admire this, 01:02:16 made me grin with delight. And albatrosses. And the expectation for the Spanish Inquisition.
Where was the Comfy Chair?
M not surprised the sequel dropped Ali McGraw. She had a few moments of good acting, but as a whole, not that great. Houseman and Mitchum stole the show by a very long, long shot.
No she didn't have any moments she's terrible!
Mmmmm🤔 Which few moments??
@@instantkarma8777 her exit.
@@stevefranckhauser7989 🤭👍
She's got acting abilities of a rocking horse.
I love how the tech stuff is all correct. The cavity magnetron, Chain Home, etc.
Thanks to Monty Python, I can't listen to the Liberty Bell March without thinking of them, and not taking the march seriously at all.
How much pain could have been avoided if the men in her life had learned to tell Natalie 'No!'? She is so utterly spoiled and manipulative. That coupled with her naivety and arrogance created a terrible outcome.
her uncle told her no when she came to get him back to the US. That led directly to his demise in the gas chamber and her brutal treatment in the camps.
She’s the worst I believe I’ve ever seen, just makes me cringe.
Her character is over written and over acted
Ok she's fictitious however, what was the fictitious attraction? She's hardly young, or a sexy goddess or has a kind persona! Jane is more likeable as a compassionate person. Ali's Natalie possessed NO nice qualities.
@@instantkarma8777 That's right. AND THAT WAS THE WAY SHE WAS WRITTEN.
Fact check: FDR was not a day drinker and his martinis were execrable . Also, he didn’t get many adoring looks from Eleanor after 1918, when she discovered his affair with Lucy Mercer.
His martinis were WHAT?
I never heard of capital punishment drinks.
@@TampaDave LOL! Stupid auto-correct. “Execrable” is the word. Apparently, Roosevelt made legendarily awful martinis that his guests dutifully drank. I had just read a biography of him, which inspired me to rewatch WOW. The martini scene was in a whole new light.
He wouldn't let a boatload of Jews land in 1939!
At 26 minutes and five seconds he couldn’t meet her at the airport because the old part was having his nap. His middle name is procrastination he ends up dying in a concentration camp and he brought it on himself.
Some of my very favourite parts are with Mitch and Victoria Tennant.
When I saw this in the mid-1980s, I was a 30 year old single woman. For the life of me, I couldn't understand what Pamela saw in Pug. I still don't and now I'm 66. But then, I never cared for older men.
Pam was around men of action so the other men didn't impress her. Victor was always in the middle of the important things going on around her. Never putting himself on her, keeping up his morality.
Pamela got on my nerves. She was too pushy. She knew he was married, yet she didn't care.
Love both of these series.
I am Australian. Some of my teachers in secondary school in the sixties had flown bombers over Germany for the RAF. They all had a strong belief in God!
awesome ❤
“She’s [Natalie] is much too smart for him.” In the book, maybe. As played by Ali McGraw, Natalie is entitled, trivial, and as wrongheaded as it gets.
Makes one wonder what Leslie could have ever saw in her.
I'd make the same argument about Rhonda Henry. All that woman wants to do during the whole thing is drink and go to parties. When Victor hooked up with Pamela Tudsbury it was definitely an upgrade
@@LBF522 sex Preppie. Lol
I thought Ali was perfectly fine. I have always thought she got a bad rap for this. The character was a you-know-what and the Slotes and the Byrons were just young guys thinking with some part of their anatomy other than the part between their ears.
hes got street smarts thart cutfs right thru her bs.
I enjoyed the Winds of War, they tried to follow the book. I also loved Victor “Pug” Henry though I had to suspend utter reality because when the story starts Commander Victor Henry had been a Naval Officer since 1915 when he graduated from Annapolis, he was 46 years old, Rhoda his wife was 43 in the book and a trophy wife. Robert Mitchum was 66 years old when the Mini series was made and though he was fit he looked over 60. Mandatory retirement for the military is 64 and that’s for Flag Officers. They needed a big name for the production, Paul Newman was interested in the part he would have looked the part, (he was in his mid 50s at the time) but Mitchum is a great actor, he really looked old 5 years later when they filmed “War & Remembrance.”
But people looked much older then than now.
I wouldn't want a trophy like that no matter what her age.
She seems as shallow as a rain puddle.
Agreed, he looked very much older in War & Remembrance.
Wouk miscalculated his timing in the book. Pug was married in 1915, but his younger son Byron was 24 in 1939.
@@Watchman36 in the novel Byron had just turned 22 so he would have been born in 1917 in the book and he was played by Jan Michael Vincent who was 39 when the mini series was filmed.
Its amazing that so many of the clothes , could easily be worn today.
I think I was around 15 years old when I read both books. This mini series would have been released when I was12. I don't know how I missed it!
Interesting fact: the mini-blimps over the river were used to hold up cables that would prevent enemy fighter planes from passing too low for an attack.
you must mean, 'low enough for an attack...'.
@@ohwhatelse Yeah, thanks!
They were called barragebaloons…
The forty for the most part was a pretty cool area the music the fashion.
The painter only had one job...get the rigging right...PS David Dukes was a terrific actor!
NHMO OYTIS a shame he died so young from a heart attack.
Ruth Samuels yes it was, :(.
This was David Dukes best role in anything he was in during his career.
IMO👍
ever since Pug and the English blond 1st laid eyes on each other, i think they both wanted each other despite the wife.
I presume that's an American version of "Bless 'em All' being sung at 5.50 ? Weird lyrics - talking about 'cookies'
The chorus is;
Bless 'em all,
Bless 'em all.
The long and the short and the tall,
Bless all those Sergeants and WO1's, (Sergeant Majors)
Bless all those Corporals and their blinkin'/bleedin' sons,
Cos' we're saying goodbye to 'em all.
And back to their Billets they crawl,
You'll get no promotion this side of the ocean,
So cheer up my lads bless 'em all
That glorious score!!!!!!!
I have loved this since the beginning and I love war and remembrance.Ihave always loved history and the civil war and world war 2. Robert Mitchum served in world war 2 in the Army not the Navy interesting thought about this
Campbell’s soup did start in 1869 so my previous post might be an error although I see a lot of non-historical things in this.
Label might not be the one from the ‘40s.
It is noteworthy how they handled the martini scene at (3:40). FDR makes martinis for himself, Pug and Eleanor, and Eleanor accepts the glass, but never sips from it. It's as if she were trying to present herself as a social drinker before a visitor, without pointing out that she did not drink (because of her father's problems with alcohol.)
That guy Pugh sure had a great war...Meeting all the top nazis, going to parties, flying on bombing missions, being there for churchill's first draft of his most memorable speech and banging a hot young driver...Peace time must have been a real downer for him...
Thought he was a real person at first. Lol thinking they modelled him after halsey who was called bull instead. "Pug Henry" "Bull Halsey"
The only man to meet Roosevelt, Churchill, Hitler and Stalin in ww2.
He was in this as a fictional way of putting the audience on the inside of everything. A great idea, and so was that Nazi admiral.
I think he met more famous people than young Indiana Jones.
@@ronniebishop2496 not an admiral. General in Wehrmacht heer.
Lol,the women here seems to be getting all the action,haha!
wow nice movie am really enjoying it
I cried ...
I Don't believe they used the term con-trail, probably they used vapour trail.? This otherwise is a very well made movie,interesting and informative . Thanks for the showing,now to find the rest of the series. Be Blessed.
I think they did, actually. The newsletter of American World War II restored aircraft association known as the "CAF" is called "Contrails".
Great cast, great 👍 historical recounts of what may have been done.
Pug reminds me of Forrest Gump. He meets all the important people of his era.
Or Verenus and Pullo from the HBO series "Rome" (Sorry HBO, the Max rebrand is stupid)
Too bad they don't redo this in HiDef like Lonsome Dove was you see details never could see in the 1980;s TV these were shot on film back then so there is a 35mm negative. Ralph Bellamy as Roosevelt was good. In this episode see how British Radar gave England the edge over Germany their bombers didn't have a chance. The spitfires and Hurricane fighters were perfect island defenders quickly rise and attack the poorly defended German bombers. Because of the channel the Germans could not use their blitzkrieg armored forces in close conjunction with the air cover.
I think that this is a copy of a copy. I have watched it many times and do not remember it ever being this bad. I gave away my copy on DVD but I have located it and will borrow it back. It is available on DVD on Amazon but for $50-.
J.M.V. had better learn some Navy customs..we don't saluate below decks so upon seeing the Admiral its good morning Sir.
Brilliant show
One thing I noticed is that Capt. Henry and Byron fall on love with women who can't say NO.
🎶🎵@ 12:00 ... That's Moonlight Serenade by Glen Miller on the record player
Great series. I love seeing the old cars and the places. Dont like the use and abuse of animals, especialy horses and donkeys.
In case you haven't heard, Herman Wouk, author of the Winds of War died a week and a half ago. He was 103 years old.
May he rest in peace.
Rest in peace, Mr. Wouk. You'll be remembered. 🌹
Betty White 99 years old 2021 rip
@@rascallyrabbit8548 I know. I found about it an hour ago. I was at the movies tonight with my sister and her two kids; we were seeing the new SPIDERMAN movie and before it was shown, even before the preview of coming attractions were shown, we saw a commercial with Betty White in it advertising for her 100th birthday which was supposed to be this January 17,. She was getting ready to have a big birthday bash for herself and the Hollywood elite she was gonna invite. How sad.
@@67nairb
Yes it's very sad and heartbreaking news especially when she was going to be 100 years old on January 17th. For a person her age she was so vibrant and active. I consider her to be very young since I believe that people don't get to be called old until they are at least over A MILLION YEARS OLD. And that what I call MIDDLE AGED PEOPLE. I know that I am old because I don't have a BIRTH CERTIFICATE instead I have a CERTIFICATE OF ANTIQUITIES.
Kinda funny to think I live near the sub base in NewLondon
I found the character Natalie to be a silly immature woman, who didn't listen until it was too late.
She's not unlike Rhoda Henry, both are daft and emotional. Byron is not unlike his father Pug and is attracted to such drivel.
Susan Eve Do you think Wouk might have created her character that way?
It has been decades since I last read the books I have seen the mini-series many times since. However, I think the Jastrows were intended to represent so many who were in denial. Many of the characters were caricatures.
looks like Natalie is the one with cold feet. Byron=good in bed, embassy dude, steady income, better security.
Great tv series
So happy to see this mini series here!!
At times. and it's especially true in this new 21st century, America can only pull together only at times of war. Power reveals the true essence of a person.
I think Pam likes a father figure...it's whatever you like
at 42:16 it must be Captain Mainwaring and the 1st Platoon B Company Home Guard!
Thank you so much for posting this series. But why does one episode have subtitles and the other not? We are not all English speakers!!