I read both books at age 26 and have watched this wonderful mini-series probably 8 times. I love the characters and they've always been part of my life. Watching again at age 68! They dont make these fabulous mini-series any more.
Way to go. I’m 77 and my brother was there. Many of our boys never came home. Prayers are what we need to do. God is still on the throne and Jesus is coming back. Please be ready. Read the books of Corinthians and you’ll see the way.
Same for me. I was mesmerized by the books. It speaks volumes to me now as similar events unfold in the world today. God be with us -- we never learn from history.
I watched this series in 1983! Then several years later! Now, I am watching it forty years from when it came out! It still one of the best best miniseries I have watched!
There's nothing today that can touch this stuff!! I doubt there are any actors up to it either. The way things are done now, practically no " TV" , I couldn't see it happening.
I have seen this mini series and its sequel many times. My father was in Normandy and wounded in the battle for Cherborg, so I always had a great fascination for that war. Studied all parts of it over the last fifty years. These two mini series are the best fast way to understand that war. and bluntly speaking more accurate than any garbage you get today; movie TV or so called modern history books.
@@sondrasmith-rr4mw Winds of War is the prequel to War and Remembrance. No sequel to that as IT went to the end of the war. Winds of War was better but War and Remembrance is great. In this day and age when so many want to deny what happened back then, this does a very good job of showing what did happen
Robert Mitchum is just about my favourite man...leading man..in all cinema and in general. *Much Love to him♡♡♡♡♡♡♡ The person who wrote all his lines in this epic... *I take my hat off to!!!*
This should be required viewing for all high school students worldwide. Great history, great drama, great tragedy, real life lessons in a very relevant cautionary tale. Oh and some pretty fine acting too.
Of epic proportions this was a masterpiece as TV mini-series go. They just don't make them like this anymore. The cast, acting, locations: all lend to an unforgettable television production.
I have watched this series 5 times in the last 10 days I remember watching it when I was very young back in 1983 and it still stands up to this very day unbelievable acting , all true history wise, just simply fantastic✅
I had an uncle trained in military intelligence as a German spy for WW2 just before it ended > who at last minute did not go there 🤔 but went to the Korean War etc. Since then > I had a father in US Airforce & two brothers in other mililtary services & a couisens , & so forth being from a big family since then. I have been to Norfolk & ships& shipping yards & on retired subs & in B-52's WW2 planes as a child & older. I can see & smell it all in real time with this WW2 series. I ❤ this series - especially, now while living on the edge of WW3. Thanks for showing us this exactly just before December 7th, 2023. " It's a bad thing, to go to war > a very bad thing." ❤ Indeed.
Thank you, for such a wonderful description. One of few who truly understands. WWII effected everyone who lived during those years. No one was left untouched. 🇺🇲
@@juliemiesen7274I went there ,too. I actually walked into the gas chamber. Sat in the barracks. I was so moved, And I just cried. I saw all of the films. This was when I was in high school. It changed me. It's because of that experience I cannot tolerate what is happening today... People have no idea what they have unleashed.....
Wonderful series and fantastic books! RIP Herman Wouk, you deserved even more than the almost 104 years you were with us. And thanks for your service as a US Navy officer during World War II.
FDR was a liar and killer. He set up the Pacific fleet moving it to Hawaii. There was no way Japan could have sailed to San Diago undetected. But he needed dead Americans to get in the war.
I have actually been so caught up in this series I watched several episodes throughout the night and don’t even feel tired at noon this next day!! How bizarre is that! R. Mitchem was that Naval Officer! He was marvelous and walked and conducted himself to perfection! My older brother was a Marine Officer of very high ranking and the whole mannerism and ability to maintain such control and remain always in charge was always remarkable in my brother . Perhaps this and that my father fought with the US Navy on a Battleship in WW11 has a lot to do with my being held captive by this series. Both are deceased but we’re remarkable men.
you have to watch the follow on series all 12 of War and Remembrance , truly brilliant and some of the most real scenes i have ever watched depicting the holocaust , cried my eyes out in some scenes !!!
@@nathanrakete6281 I have watched "War and Remembrance" [several times] along with "Winds of War". Absolutely fascinated with this account of the war. Honest and realistic--since I have dedicated many hours learning about WWII. My dad was a tailgunner on a B-17----flew the 25 missions required to be a member of THE LUCKY BASTARDS CLUB!!! That started my interest! Also--Bob Mitchum has been my favorite actor forever--honestly, I think he did a wonderful job depicting a through-and-through naval officer. Happy to have found another fan of this series!!!
@@lluisbosch2683 Yes, I know his actual name is Robert Mitchum. Love the guy...and was lucky enough to meet him in person at a diner close to where he was filming a movie. He autographed a napkin for me----"Cheers! Bob Mitchum". ('Bob' is a common nickname for the proper name 'Robert'.)
Robert Mitchum played in some great WWII movies notably "The Enemy Below" with Curt Jurgens, an absolutely amazing movie, a must see and it's on RUclips for free!
Pug is consistently principled: He rejected the German banker's offer once before, and now he turns down the request to write 'a letter of apology' which, to him, was unjustified... True to his character.
A war killing millions is on and Rhoda acts 16 yr. old, fretting that she isn't at the numerous parties that all the safe, rich acquaintances attend. They made the great Mitchum's character unreal. Who in a right mind would have the sleezy, self centered Rhoda? Not me.
Rhoda was a very naive and self-centered character. But once she found out the truth, she stood behind her husband. Many women and men, grew up in a big hurry during WWII. You need to see the entire series. The actors did a brilliant job on their roles.
As far as pure acting goes, Pamela is #1 in my book. The British know how to do it right. I'll be shocked if someone tells me the actress isn't really British.
Victoria Tennant is so good in both series. Her mother was a very famous Russian Ballerina. Victoria & Mitchum were the best in these series, loved them together.
In this episode, the actor who portrayed Adm. Ernest King played the role perfectly. The admiral supposedly"shaved with a blowtorch." Also Robert Mitchum was cast perfectly. After all, he played sailors in " The Enemy Below" and as Adm Raymond Spruance in " Midway".
I preferred him as Preacher in Night of The Hunter, he was extremely versatile in his acting ability. Like Gregory Peck, and Jimmy Stewart. But Mitchium had it over on both of them, he could play Good Guys, Anti-Heroes and Villans. Whereas as Peck was at his best playing Good Guys and Stewart made a career out of playing the boy next door. And another career playing the grouchy old neighbor who deep down was a good dude who just needed a friend.
1:47 This yacht's still around. Since 1995 it's been in Oakland, California, about sixty miles or so from San Jose where I live now. If you have the chance, see it. It's only a few miles from the former navy base at Alameda where you can visit the USS Hornet, an aircraft carrier that fought in World War II and recovered the Apollo 11 astronauts.
like so many films predicated upon novels, this fiction story too, is a crowning piece by Herman Wouk in its literary form and 'light' years ahead of this made-for-tv form. his seminal work, 'The Caine Mutiny' began the long career of Wouk of creating masterpieces of literary novels often focusing with a military genre but also weaving in romance.
All the major heads of state actors were excellent in this series. Hitler, Churchill, Mus., FDR. Eleanor Roosevelt was very visually and verbally convincing. That role has been beautywashed and given a much larger copresident role in recent years.
Bergen did the best that could be done with Rhoda. I give her credit for the scene when she explains to Palmer how she first fell in love with Pug. That was well played.
Nah, I can't stand Jane Seymour either. She's forever preoccupied with posing for the camera as if for an autograph photo, "this is my pretty smile, this is my adoring glance, etc"
THAT DAMN Rhoda again! " Rhoda! When you calm down from yapping I have something to tell you" "I have something to tell YOU too". Once Rhoda found out it was dinner at the White House! Heck she forgot ALL about telling him about her and Palmer(laughter)
william alderman- For everything bad that can be said about Rhoda, if not for the course she took, Pug would have never been able to hook up with the young British babe. So...
Rhoda drives me nuts in this series, and she makes me wanna throw my stapler at her in the sequel. What a self-centered ninny she comes off as! Polly Bergen did her best to make her likeable, but not even she could save Rhoda.
My favorite novel. Great miniseries because the network gave adequate time to it. Worst part was Ali McGraw. Jane Seymour was brilliant in War and Remembrance
I agree wholeheartedly Miss Farrel. I rather adore ane Seymour and I am not a fan of McGraws at all; besides that, I did not care for the abundance of time she took in this fine film. Her character was very annoying to me. I best leave it at that. Robert Mitchum was very fine, some other excellent "character actors" I saw and was happy to see them in here. I hope the term character actors had never been coined. ohn Dehner, Pug's superior, I heard on radio shows years ago, then much TV and he could be the main one in any film.
@@salt27dogg ...I don't know but she and her character was very annoying to me. Had she been younger in here she'd be called a bothersome, argumentative brat. She had no sense of danger, had to have her way, etc. Irritating. I kept on for the good story it was on the whole.
My mom was a 21 yo nurse in San Francisco in June of 1942. She met Dad, a sailor on a destroyer put in battle damaged repairs. They were married 3 weeks later and were together for another 60. This last scene with Natalie and Bryson on the pier, the look, touches, and intensity of the kisses were seen everywhere. Mom talked to me about how that felt. Talked about how much she loved her husband and the fear she lived with force the 3 years while his ship fought in the Pacific. Her wedding night and his departure captured this perfectly. It's an amazing film.
Remarkable likeness of Eleanor Roosevelt She was a significant power in the Whitehouse. She was directly instrumental in the formation of the first black fighter squadron, the Tuskegee airman. Their story is told in the movie"Redtails." Her biography is a very good read.
Sadly true. I shudder when I worry about the truism that states: those that forget history will get to live it over again. I’m older but my kids and grandkids may suffer from our current cultural state of ignorance, weakness, self-righteousness, laziness, greed, and hubris. I’ve tried to talk with younger people but they live in a “virtual Godless” universe of the soulless self, where money and the self are dominant. I have had conversations with some, such as my kids, but I’m not optimistic for our future.
@@alcoholfree6381 I remember that I was one of the few of my generation who watched this series. Nowadays, I find I am in better company. Time has a way of teaching hard lessons.
I don't think this is true at all. I feel like people underestimate and generalize younger generations far too much. It's unfortunate. I was born in 1991 and I saw this series for the first time maybe 5-6 years ago and it quickly became one of my favorite shows of all time! WW2 is my favorite era in history and this show did such a great job of putting the main characters into relevant situations that actually happened in history. I swear, Forest Gump had to have taken creative ideas from this series/book. Forest Gump book came out 3 years after this TV series did and it uses a lot of the same type of plot elements to put Forest in similar situations as Pug Henry. The production and direction of this show are absolute masterclasses. It has so much depth and scope. The best thing about it in my opinion by far is the character development. I don't know if I can recall another tv series, movie, or any form of media that did such an incredible job of character development. Maybe that's because it's based on books? I'm not sure, but all of this is to say that anyone from any generation can enjoy this series. It has all the basic building blocks of an amazing story. The problem isn't that younger generations wouldn't enjoy it, more so that they wouldn't be exposed to it. It's an old show that is criminally underrated because it doesn't get any modern-day push or advertisement.
At about 16:00 in I am so pleased to see Pug talking to a high American official, played by one of my all time most favorite actors; ohn Dehner> My, what a fine actor. He played the best, even unique parts in Gunsmoke TV series about a dozen times, he played a great comedy routine in the 1968-1973 TV series "The Doris Day Show." He was main actor in the old Radio program(s.") He never was w/out work, one of the best actors ever.
Dehner was playing Admiral Ernest KIng, Chief Of Naval Operations[highest post in the US Navy; his only superiors were Secretary of the Navy, Secretary of War, and the President].
As a WWII aficionado, I can attest to the fact that the conversations around Hitler are verbatim correct. The German-to-English translation missed a few words. That's it. It's amazing! 👍
That scene when Rhoda is looking in the mirror and talking about looking 6 months pregnant, is probably one of my five favorite scenes out of the whole mini-series. It's so Rhoda and every woman who would be dressing for dinner with the president. And pug sounds like every husband. That's what made this miniseries wonderful. The characters talk like real people talk
Two of my fave WWII movies are The Enemy Below with Mitchum and Curt Jürgens and Run Silent Run Deep with Clark Gable and Burt Lancaster. Other fave sub movie: Das Boot.
100% Texan, not a fool, really. A wooly headed intellectual who just could not accept Hitler's threats because they were so foreign to western liberalism. He, or rather his incarnation by Woulk, was quite common.
He didn't understand that fascists have no idea of fairness or decency. We in the US have seen this up close recently; in the attempted fascist coup at our capitol, the fascists were trying to capture politicians - even some of their own party - who were "disloyal" and were going to kill them. It's hard to understand how Germans, nice normal educated people, could become so murderous, but we've seen the same thing happen here in the US and right now we simply don't know if what we've seen is the end of it or merely a prelude, like Hitler's failed coup in the 1920s.
@@alexcarter8807 it's a prelude. Unless USA manage to change course, and, literally, rebuild the entire American society. Current USA is a breeding ground for extremism.
@@alexcarter8807 the dems and their allies the ironically named anti-fascist and BLM are the only fascist in the US. You libtards need to drop that talking point. it has been totally debunked. but you are right about one thing, there is a lot more to come. one day we will get tired of being pushed around by you people.
I am currently rereading the books loved this series especially war and remembrance. Just a little comment I would have left my uncle in Italy and got the hell out.
40 years ago this times when i was 13 years old The wind of war tv series had begun in Turkish televisions especilly mr. Mitchum and lady Ali Mcgrav's characters wasso great also my favourite characters both Jewish professor and Jane seymour's too.
I like how when the President is walking up the gangway, The reporters lower their cameras out of respect. Imagine how it would go down today - They'd take pictures and news agencies would be debating for weeks his decision to walk rather than take the lift, with reports on why it was either good or bad move.. All while thousands of people make Memes about the subject
How right you are. The thing is, despite FDR serving 13 years in the White House as a handicapped man, there's probably no way a handicapped person would ever be allowed to run for POTUS these days. There would be debates ad nauseum on whether they were "healthy enough" and what it meant for the country's image. And the memes....the memes.
@@caomhan84 interestingly, half the country didn't bother about the negative image president agolf bonespur twitler gave USA, many of his supporters even see it as a good thing!! Insane.
she was not trapped in europe she chose to stay, even fought to stay there. The way this is written it is like 'oh poor her' sorry if you make bad choices then you take responsibility for that decision. And off she goes again demanding she is jewish during war time, knowing what could happen to her and her uncle she shouts it from the roof tops
When *THE WINDS OF WAR* came out, I had just turned 12 some months prior; before binge-watching it now, the only two scenes I remembered from the entire run are the Portuguese wedding scene... and the massacre of the Jews over 75 minutes into this cli[p.
Yep!! Thought the same thing. Then how she couldn't wait to tell her harpy friends about getting to go to Washington. I don't like her much less her character.
I’ve never met two crazier women in my life than that Rhoda and Natalie and I was raised by women from that era and I didn’t meet any as spoiled selfish and crazy as hell.
I recall this series well. I even read Wouk’s book. For its time, this mini-series was the best historical fiction on tv, back in the day when there were just three choices. The work has not aged well, in my opinion. My impression of the wooden acting, unfortunately, seems to have been spot on. What bothered me then and worse now, was the intransigent bull-headedness of Aaron and his niece. I am aware that there were Jews who felt Naziism would pass. There were many more who judged those devils correctly.
Not only that people who are in the know are telling Natalie and Aaron to leave and leave now and still they ignore that good advice. Even Natalie's friend who works in the foreign service is telling her to leave.
How many got away? There were six million plus who didn’t. Even when Natalie and her uncle tried every obstacle was put in their way because the Nazi’s wanted Jastrow for propaganda purposes. Yes, many got away, but just as many who tried desperately never did escape. Judging people because they didn’t get out is really not fair.
I presume you're talking about Rhoda and Natalie - but later on we see what a piece of work Janice is, too. (Hmm, since they're all fictional characters, I wonder what that says about Herman Wouk.) 😎
Never understood why churchhill couldn't walk over to the American ship instead of Roosevelt walking over to the British ship. 1. Roosevelt can barely walk, and he's an honorable man to use the chair. 2. it's the British that was asking for the Americans' help into winning ww2. Idk, it would've been the Respectable thing to do on churchhill behalf.
THAT DAMN Rhoda again! " Rhoda! When you calm down from yapping I have something to tell you" "I have something to tell YOU too". Once Rhoda found out it was dinner at the White House! Heck she forgot ALL about telling him about her and Palmer(laughter)
Anyone remember Rhoda at a big dinner in Berlin when she couldn't keep her mouth shut at dinner. WELL here she go again here at the White House. JUST WHY would they put her next to Roosevelt?
Brian Sedlock, I saw that too. He lived a nice long life. Thanks for sharing. By the way, I was watching the sequel War & Remembrance on U Tube (I was on part V) and all of a sudden all the episodes are gone?
Everyone should be required to watch this series in high school and understand our history and that Freedom is not Free. God Bless our "World's Greatest Generation" and all Veterans, we must treasure, and respect "Freedom of Speech" a cornerstone of our foundation. God, Family and Country. 1776
@@Americanpatriot-zo2tk If she was referring to the World War II generation across the world as the "World's Greatest Generation", then fine. If she was referring to the World War II generation in the USA as the "World's Greatest Generation", then she can shove it.
@@thevillaaston7811 I don’t know they were pretty awesome you had the women that came out and women didn’t work back men were like Rosie riveters the men went and fought the country got built frankly we’ve been living off the carcass World War II ever since. That’s what propelled us to a world power.yes, I’m 60 so on the generation right after the baby boomers and all fully acknowledge I think the World War II generation people in the United States were awesome.
ive watched both series SEVERAL TIMES...... and im still surprised how EVERYBODY IS KISSING EVERYBODY..... im like, aint yall married to other people?????
@@leahwhiteley5164 i was talking about the americans (2 years ago).... and no frenchman wants his wife kissing another man THAT WAY!!! .....plus didnt the storyline show that???
Natalie really manipulated slote . First she's not staying at his hotel room then when she tells him she's marrying Byron she asks to stay in the room and he has to stay somewhere else. Not to mention her flakiness , indecivness regarding the marriage.
@~1:06:15, there was a great line from some nazi tank officer about the impossibility of conquering the ussr, "we have done things never before done in war, we could and did conquer 50 km of territory a day for days on end and yet no matter how much we took there was always thousands more km to go."
When Pug is talking to with the State Department guy. U can See what type of Guy he would’ve been. I bet he’d been a Hard Man. U couldn’t have read a man like Pug. Ud never know what he was thinking.. But I think it was like that for Most men during their era. Living through WW1, SpAnish flu, Great Depression & WW2.. All of those men would be harden I guess that’s why they are the “Greatest Generation” could U imagine 2DAYS generation trying to live through those events.. They’re too worried about what Pro-Noun U use & having boys play against girls because they feel like a girl inside.
He has a few liaisons in the books. But the women he sleeps with are just attempts to get over Natalie. He even makes a pass at Pamela but notices that she's too into Pug for his attempts to have any success. I do kinda wish that he and that Swiss Jewish girl from War and Remembrance had at least had an affair. She seemed a good change...but he still compared her to Natalie.
I read the book;War and Remembrance several Christmas’es ago,and into the New Year.I finished the 📕 book by spring,I think.I’m glad that my dad saved this book 📕 for me to read,and,I throughly enjoyed it!😊😊😊😊😢😢😢😢😢
Rhoda is so darn primitive, and shallow… I can’t believe. Victor is trying to win a war and all she cares is her hairdresser and stupid dresses 🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️ gets on my nerves like Nathalie. 😮
Palmer is just as bad or worse than Rhoda he knows pug he knows she’s a married woman but all he can think about is hopping up and down on her. You know who Palmer it would serve him right if he ended up with her.
Yeah, it really frustrated the realist in me. Hollywood! However, every mistake led to another intimate look into historical moments of WWII. I really appreciate this series!
Great series!! Though I Wish they would have kept Ali McGraw and Jan Michael Vincent in war and remembrance Their replacements were not at their level.
jeff lockaby The media was different then. They actually reported the news, Roosevelt was the President that started the welfare system we have today that lazy asses use who don’t want to work. Roosevelt was a piece of dog shit that knew peal harbor was going to be attacked. The blood is on his hands.
Jimbo Bell really, the whole world? So I guess you know every single person in the whole world. If everybody hates trump like you claim then that tells me he’s not a push over like the democrats who want to have open borders, free health care for illegals, burning, looting, rioting, murder, assaulting people, etc. TRUMP 2020 BABY, LIKE A BOSS!!!!!
jeff lockaby you democrats like to bring up trumps morals what a bunch of hypocrites. The Democratic Party that’s just fine with late birth abortions, rioting, looting, pillaging, assaulting, killing, free everything to illegals, etc.. Democrat/communists always like to point out Trumps faults but they should look into a mirror.
jeff lockaby the democrats have you brainwashed good. Keep drinking the Marxist/Democratic koolaid until you wake up one day and enter have any Constitutional rights.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘
“While the German pack tactic was effective, it had several drawbacks. Most notably, wolfpacks required extensive radio communication to coordinate the attacks. This left the U-boats vulnerable to a device called the High Frequency Direction Finder (HF/DF or Huff-Duff), which allowed Allied naval forces to determine the location of the enemy boats transmitting and attack them.”
I've seen both this miniseries and its sequel and it still galls me to see Aaron be so irritatingly stubborn and stupid. With even half of a brain he would have survived.
Good series, some inaccuracies, and the naval fleet models were a bit obviously shot in an oversized bath tub, but expected for a series made in the early 80s.
@@nhmooytis7058 is that why you started this by barging in here? pathetic much? anyway thanks for confirming your ignorance, confusion, and irrationality.
Enjoying this for the first time... don't know much about the author but have been looking for a decent American / western historical drama outside of the typical Hollywood genre. ...Regarding factual history, close is good enough, take with a grain of salt. The key is knowing history on your own dime. I find Asian historicals especially those with state subsidy had been more prolific prior to recent years, and are of good quality.
I read both books at age 26 and have watched this wonderful mini-series probably 8 times. I love the characters and they've always been part of my life. Watching again at age 68! They dont make these fabulous mini-series any more.
Way to go. I’m 77 and my brother was there. Many of our boys never came home. Prayers are what we need to do. God is still on the throne and Jesus is coming back. Please be ready. Read the books of Corinthians and you’ll see the way.
@@glendagaskin151 :. Agree! I believe the Gaza/Israel war could escalate into the world war prophecied by Ezekiel 38-39.
Same for me. I was mesmerized by the books. It speaks volumes to me now as similar events unfold in the world today. God be with us -- we never learn from history.
Sure dont!
The mini series Elenor and FDR is a really good one too and its on You Tube
Throughout Robert Mitchum's career just got better and better during his lifetime. great series!!!!! Thank you.
I love his voice and he has a similar voice to Wm. Shatner.
I watched this series in 1983! Then several years later! Now, I am watching it forty years from when it came out! It still one of the best best miniseries I have watched!
Indeed it was..
Me, too!!
There's nothing today that can touch this stuff!! I doubt there are any actors up to it either. The way things are done now, practically no " TV" , I couldn't see it happening.
All the other naval officer players were much better in their little parts than “star” Mitchum. He was wooden by comparison.
they did their best to tell history as it was
not like the morons of today that tell history as they wanted it to be
I have seen this mini series and its sequel many times. My father was in Normandy and wounded in the battle for Cherborg, so I always had a great fascination for that war. Studied all parts of it over the last fifty years. These two mini series are the best fast way to understand that war. and bluntly speaking more accurate than any garbage you get today; movie TV or so called modern history books.
What's name of sequel
@@sondrasmith-rr4mw Brain Fart I meant the prequel to War and Remembrance which was Winds of War
@@sondrasmith-rr4mw Winds of War is the prequel to War and Remembrance. No sequel to that as IT went to the end of the war.
Winds of War was better but War and Remembrance is great.
In this day and age when so many want to deny what happened back then, this does a very good job of showing what did happen
Robert Mitchum is just about my favourite man...leading man..in all cinema and in general.
*Much Love to him♡♡♡♡♡♡♡
The person who wrote all his lines in this epic... *I take my hat off to!!!*
Did he serve in WW2?
This should be required viewing for all high school students worldwide. Great history, great drama, great tragedy, real life lessons in a very relevant cautionary tale. Oh and some pretty fine acting too.
Of epic proportions this was a masterpiece as TV mini-series go. They just don't make them like this anymore. The cast, acting, locations: all lend to an unforgettable television production.
I grew up watching the mini series. They were fun to watch.
Utterly Fabulous! And I do agree with you.
Every spec of it!
And an entertaining way to learn history - whatever was fictional can still be researched and learned. 😊
This series got me interested in history, what an epic it was from the acting to the haunting voice overs from William Woodson.
I have watched this series 5 times in the last 10 days I remember watching it when I was very young back in 1983 and it still stands up to this very day unbelievable acting , all true history wise, just simply fantastic✅
This movie put a seed in my mind that Europe is not the best place to live. Im from Poland. Now in Canada for 21 years.
@@SD-cq4iw plenty of Europe is very safe to live in. I'm in Ireland.
How did you find the time? I been watching 3 days and I'm barely here on Ep.6 tomorrow I'll watch the rest of this episode and the last one.
Thank you for posting this series. such a great story.
I had an uncle trained in military intelligence as a German spy for WW2 just before it ended > who at last minute did not go there 🤔 but went to the Korean War etc. Since then > I had a father in US Airforce & two brothers in other mililtary services & a couisens , & so forth being from a big family since then.
I have been to Norfolk & ships& shipping yards & on retired subs & in B-52's WW2 planes as a child & older. I can see & smell it all in real time with this WW2 series.
I ❤ this series - especially, now while living on the edge of WW3.
Thanks for showing us this exactly just before December 7th, 2023.
" It's a bad thing, to go to war > a very bad thing." ❤ Indeed.
Agreed
Thank you, for such a wonderful description. One of few who truly understands. WWII effected everyone who lived during those years. No one was left untouched. 🇺🇲
Best series watched of many times. in Germany while serving in the USAF. I visited Dachau
I also visited Dachau 80 years later and felt sick when I looked at it. The remains of the huts are still there.
@@juliemiesen7274I went there ,too. I actually walked into the gas chamber. Sat in the barracks. I was so moved, And I just cried. I saw all of the films. This was when I was in high school. It changed me. It's because of that experience I cannot tolerate what
is happening today... People have
no idea what they have unleashed.....
Robert Mitchum was just such a fantastic actor
Wonderful series and fantastic books! RIP Herman Wouk, you deserved even more than the almost 104 years you were with us. And thanks for your service as a US Navy officer during World War II.
Love the series and the acting. Have watched it several times I it’s entirety. Of course, Robert Mitchum was my favorite. RIP
I'm on my third time. Bitchin' Bob Mitchum was one of the greatest actors there will ever be.
*GOD* Knows I love *That man.
@@johnmcgrew7128 THAT'S A PURE *FACT!
somehow, I missed this movie when it was made, and am so happy to be watching it now, LOVE IT ❤️
What a thrill to have seen FDR in person! Reagan waved to me once from his limo in Cleveland in 1981. Big woof.
FDR was a liar and killer. He set up the Pacific fleet moving it to Hawaii. There was no way Japan could have sailed to San Diago undetected. But he needed dead Americans to get in the war.
Cool!
I have actually been so caught up in this series I watched several episodes throughout the night and don’t even feel tired at noon this next day!! How bizarre is that! R. Mitchem was that Naval Officer! He was marvelous and walked and conducted himself to perfection! My older brother was a Marine Officer of very high ranking and the whole mannerism and ability to maintain such control and remain always in charge was always remarkable in my brother . Perhaps this and that my father fought with the US Navy on a Battleship in WW11 has a lot to do with my being held captive by this series. Both are deceased but we’re remarkable men.
you have to watch the follow on series all 12 of War and Remembrance , truly brilliant and some of the most real scenes i have ever watched depicting the holocaust , cried my eyes out in some scenes !!!
I thank your Father and Brother for their service.
@@nathanrakete6281 I have watched "War and Remembrance" [several times] along with "Winds of War". Absolutely fascinated with this account of the war. Honest and realistic--since I have dedicated many hours learning about WWII. My dad was a tailgunner on a B-17----flew the 25 missions required to be a member of THE LUCKY BASTARDS CLUB!!! That started my interest! Also--Bob Mitchum has been my favorite actor forever--honestly, I think he did a wonderful job depicting a through-and-through naval officer. Happy to have found another fan of this series!!!
wonderful... it is Robert Mitchum, by the way...
@@lluisbosch2683 Yes, I know his actual name is Robert Mitchum. Love the guy...and was lucky enough to meet him in person at a diner close to where he was filming a movie. He autographed a napkin for me----"Cheers! Bob Mitchum". ('Bob' is a common nickname for the proper name 'Robert'.)
Robert Mitchum played in some great WWII movies notably "The Enemy Below" with Curt Jurgens, an absolutely amazing movie, a must see and it's on RUclips for free!
A great series which will remain popular and real forever. Great acting all round.
Dialogue at 1:52. I love the esteem and respect in which FDR holds Pug. Hands down Pug Henry is one of my all time favorite literary characters.
Yup ! ! He's the Forest Gump of WWII ! ! ! ! He did it all............
Best episode yet, great stand off between subs and destroyers.......
Amazing, how realistic it was--with no CGI effects!
The days when the whole crew would film on location. Sorely lacking in the new films coming out.
The convoy scenes were well done water tank shots.
Pug is consistently principled: He rejected the German banker's offer once before, and now he turns down the request to write 'a letter of apology' which, to him, was unjustified... True to his character.
A war killing millions is on and Rhoda acts 16 yr. old, fretting that she isn't at the numerous parties that all the safe, rich acquaintances attend. They made the great Mitchum's character unreal. Who in a right mind would have the sleezy, self centered Rhoda? Not me.
Rhoda was a very naive and self-centered character. But once she found out the truth, she stood behind her husband. Many women and men, grew up in a big hurry during WWII. You need to see the entire series. The actors did a brilliant job on their roles.
Mrs Pug is the most obvious social climbing drone you can imagine. He is better off if she leaves him.
Amen!
Yes she was but he was playing footsie with Pamela as well, I kinda wished she would have left him for Palmer instead of that sleazy Army guy.
Agree
Mrs Pug is an absolute trainwreck. You just can't take her anywhere.
@@tiffanygrever8092 she was going to; but her ego when PUg was invited to the white house made her change her mind. Good for Palmer
As far as pure acting goes, Pamela is #1 in my book. The British know how to do it right. I'll be shocked if someone tells me the actress isn't really British.
She is English and went to the Central School of Speech and Drama in London.
Victoria Tennant is so good in both series. Her mother was a very famous Russian Ballerina. Victoria & Mitchum were the best in these series, loved them together.
If you haven't read the two volume book your missing a real treat. Loved the book.
Rereading it now as I watch the series again!
That scene at Minsk makes my blood run cold. That’s where my grandmother’s family is from.
By the grace of. God, they got out well before WW II.
Makes you think the Americans nuked the wrong axis country, my people are not Jews but they are Gypsies, they were nearly wiped out too.
God had nothing to do with it.
@@torehaaland6921You're an idiot.
Mine too.
That's what happened to Polish people even from the first days of september 1939.
In this episode, the actor who portrayed Adm. Ernest King played the role perfectly. The admiral supposedly"shaved with a blowtorch." Also Robert Mitchum was cast perfectly. After all, he played sailors in " The Enemy Below" and as Adm Raymond Spruance in " Midway".
CORRECTION PLAYED BULL HALSEY IN MIDWAY.
I preferred him as Preacher in Night of The Hunter, he was extremely versatile in his acting ability. Like Gregory Peck, and Jimmy Stewart. But Mitchium had it over on both of them, he could play Good Guys, Anti-Heroes and Villans. Whereas as Peck was at his best playing Good Guys and Stewart made a career out of playing the boy next door. And another career playing the grouchy old neighbor who deep down was a good dude who just needed a friend.
Wasn't Adm King in the Pacific theater?
John Dehner.
@@Rob-yk1jwIn 1940 he was in the Atlantic.
1:47 This yacht's still around. Since 1995 it's been in Oakland, California, about sixty miles or so from San Jose where I live now. If you have the chance, see it. It's only a few miles from the former navy base at Alameda where you can visit the USS Hornet, an aircraft carrier that fought in World War II and recovered the Apollo 11 astronauts.
like so many films predicated upon novels, this fiction story too, is a crowning piece by Herman Wouk in its literary form and 'light' years ahead of this made-for-tv form.
his seminal work, 'The Caine Mutiny' began the long career of Wouk of creating masterpieces of literary novels often focusing with a military genre but also weaving in romance.
Of the actors that I have seen play FDR, Ralph Bellamy has been far the best at it.
Yup.... Excellent actors....
He’d already played him 20 years before in Sunrise at Campobello.
All the major heads of state actors were excellent in this series. Hitler, Churchill, Mus., FDR.
Eleanor Roosevelt was very visually and verbally convincing. That role has been beautywashed and given a much larger copresident role in recent years.
He sounds nothing like FDR though. He sounds like one of the old guys from Trading Places.
I think Rhoda would have been just as happy eating dinner with Hitler as she did with Roosevelt.
Quite, she was a status chaser.
Jyn Dev In the book, nit quite as much.
Bergen did the best that could be done with Rhoda. I give her credit for the scene when she explains to Palmer how she first fell in love with Pug. That was well played.
Nah, I can't stand Jane Seymour either. She's forever preoccupied with posing for the camera as if for an autograph photo, "this is my pretty smile, this is my adoring glance, etc"
@@valkyriesardo278 She's a better actress than Ali MacGraw.
THAT DAMN Rhoda again! " Rhoda! When you calm down from yapping I have something to tell you" "I have something to tell YOU too". Once Rhoda found out it was dinner at the White House! Heck she forgot ALL about telling him about her and Palmer(laughter)
william alderman- For everything bad that can be said about Rhoda, if not for the course she took, Pug would have never been able to hook up with the young British babe. So...
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Ha! So well said. I went onto the comment section RIGHT AFTER that scene cuz it annoyed me so much. So glad to read urs
Rhoda drives me nuts in this series, and she makes me wanna throw my stapler at her in the sequel. What a self-centered ninny she comes off as! Polly Bergen did her best to make her likeable, but not even she could save Rhoda.
My favorite novel. Great miniseries because the network gave adequate time to it. Worst part was Ali McGraw. Jane Seymour was brilliant in War and Remembrance
Does the novel portray Natalie like Ali?
I agree wholeheartedly Miss Farrel. I rather adore ane Seymour and I am not a fan of McGraws at all; besides that, I did not care for the abundance of time she took in this fine film. Her character was very annoying to me. I best leave it at that.
Robert Mitchum was very fine, some other excellent "character actors" I saw and was happy to see them in here. I hope the term character actors had never been coined. ohn Dehner, Pug's superior, I heard on radio shows years ago, then much TV and he could be the main one in any film.
@@salt27dogg ...I don't know but she and her character was very annoying to me. Had she been younger in here she'd be called a bothersome, argumentative brat. She had no sense of danger, had to have her way, etc. Irritating. I kept on for the good story it was on the whole.
@@salt27dogg No. In the novel she was much more understated and less borderline.
Ali Mgraw and Rhoda are unwatchable. I FF past their scenes
My mom was a 21 yo nurse in San Francisco in June of 1942. She met Dad, a sailor on a destroyer put in battle damaged repairs.
They were married 3 weeks later and were together for another 60.
This last scene with Natalie and Bryson on the pier, the look, touches, and intensity of the kisses were seen everywhere. Mom talked to me about how that felt. Talked about how much she loved her husband and the fear she lived with force the 3 years while his ship fought in the Pacific. Her wedding night and his departure captured this perfectly.
It's an amazing film.
Remarkable likeness of Eleanor Roosevelt
She was a significant power in the Whitehouse. She was directly instrumental in the formation of the first black fighter squadron, the Tuskegee airman. Their story is told in the movie"Redtails." Her biography is a very good read.
They sure did drink and smoke a lot in the past. Well, it was war.
And many later died of cirrhosis and lung cancer.
that was the way the world was back then; trying to judge the past with the standards and expectations of the present is for morons
It's so hard to believe this mini series is over 40 years old! I remember watching in 1980s. (Of course, I was just a baby, 😂).
A great series. Sadly, today's audiences would be lost.
Sadly true. I shudder when I worry about the truism that states: those that forget history will get to live it over again. I’m older but my kids and grandkids may suffer from our current cultural state of ignorance, weakness, self-righteousness, laziness, greed, and hubris. I’ve tried to talk with younger people but they live in a “virtual Godless” universe of the soulless self, where money and the self are dominant. I have had conversations with some, such as my kids, but I’m not optimistic for our future.
@@alcoholfree6381 I remember that I was one of the few of my generation who watched this series. Nowadays, I find I am in better company. Time has a way of teaching hard lessons.
They know little about history and care less.
Add some magic spells , cartoons ,super heroes special effects and a simple storyline for 5yr olds........
I don't think this is true at all. I feel like people underestimate and generalize younger generations far too much. It's unfortunate. I was born in 1991 and I saw this series for the first time maybe 5-6 years ago and it quickly became one of my favorite shows of all time! WW2 is my favorite era in history and this show did such a great job of putting the main characters into relevant situations that actually happened in history. I swear, Forest Gump had to have taken creative ideas from this series/book. Forest Gump book came out 3 years after this TV series did and it uses a lot of the same type of plot elements to put Forest in similar situations as Pug Henry.
The production and direction of this show are absolute masterclasses. It has so much depth and scope. The best thing about it in my opinion by far is the character development. I don't know if I can recall another tv series, movie, or any form of media that did such an incredible job of character development. Maybe that's because it's based on books? I'm not sure, but all of this is to say that anyone from any generation can enjoy this series. It has all the basic building blocks of an amazing story. The problem isn't that younger generations wouldn't enjoy it, more so that they wouldn't be exposed to it. It's an old show that is criminally underrated because it doesn't get any modern-day push or advertisement.
At about 16:00 in I am so pleased to see Pug talking to a high American official, played by one of my all time most favorite actors; ohn Dehner> My, what a fine actor. He played the best, even unique parts in Gunsmoke TV series about a dozen times, he played a great comedy routine in the 1968-1973 TV series "The Doris Day Show." He was main actor in the old Radio program(s.") He never was w/out work, one of the best actors ever.
Dehner was playing Admiral Ernest KIng, Chief Of Naval Operations[highest post in the US Navy; his only superiors were Secretary of the Navy, Secretary of War, and the President].
Really been enjoying this so much! Thank you.
As a WWII aficionado, I can attest to the fact that the conversations around Hitler are verbatim correct. The German-to-English translation missed a few words. That's it. It's amazing! 👍
He was a crazy f---k !!!
As Churchill said, "if your going through Hell. Keep going.
Yes indeed, a most brilliant series.
"The Winds of War", a great book, along with 'War and Remembrance."
This is the best series on WW2.
A great classic mini series.
Agree 100%
That scene when Rhoda is looking in the mirror and talking about looking 6 months pregnant, is probably one of my five favorite scenes out of the whole mini-series. It's so Rhoda and every woman who would be dressing for dinner with the president. And pug sounds like every husband. That's what made this miniseries wonderful. The characters talk like real people talk
Very good observation. So true
Sub scenes me of The Enemy Below (1957) with Mitchum as the destroyer skipper, and Curt Jürgens as the sub captain he matches wits with. Great movie!
Two of my fave WWII movies are The Enemy Below with Mitchum and Curt Jürgens and Run Silent Run Deep with Clark Gable and Burt Lancaster. Other fave sub movie: Das Boot.
Second or Third Time Around for Me.....Loved it The First, Second, and Third Time....Well done!
Aaron jastrow was a fool. He thought because of his high status in society that would save him, but in the end he became dust like every poor man does
100% Texan, not a fool, really. A wooly headed intellectual who just could not accept Hitler's threats because they were so foreign to western liberalism. He, or rather his incarnation by Woulk, was quite common.
In this series he represented the attitudes of many Jews that were around Europe when Hitler came to power.
He didn't understand that fascists have no idea of fairness or decency. We in the US have seen this up close recently; in the attempted fascist coup at our capitol, the fascists were trying to capture politicians - even some of their own party - who were "disloyal" and were going to kill them. It's hard to understand how Germans, nice normal educated people, could become so murderous, but we've seen the same thing happen here in the US and right now we simply don't know if what we've seen is the end of it or merely a prelude, like Hitler's failed coup in the 1920s.
@@alexcarter8807 it's a prelude.
Unless USA manage to change course, and, literally, rebuild the entire American society. Current USA is a breeding ground for extremism.
@@alexcarter8807 the dems and their allies the ironically named anti-fascist and BLM are the only fascist in the US. You libtards need to drop that talking point. it has been totally debunked. but you are right about one thing, there is a lot more to come. one day we will get tired of being pushed around by you people.
I am currently rereading the books loved this series especially war and remembrance. Just a little comment I would have left my uncle in Italy and got the hell out.
As Pug chased wolf packs at sea- Palmer Kirby launched depth charges on USS Rhoda
rhoda
@@edward-fi1rf Fixed✋
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Good one!
And helped develop the A bomb.
40 years ago this times when i was 13 years old The wind of war tv series had begun in Turkish televisions especilly mr. Mitchum and lady Ali Mcgrav's characters wasso great also my favourite characters both Jewish professor and Jane seymour's too.
I like how when the President is walking up the gangway, The reporters lower their cameras out of respect.
Imagine how it would go down today - They'd take pictures and news agencies would be debating for weeks his decision to walk rather than take the lift, with reports on why it was either good or bad move.. All while thousands of people make Memes about the subject
How right you are. The thing is, despite FDR serving 13 years in the White House as a handicapped man, there's probably no way a handicapped person would ever be allowed to run for POTUS these days. There would be debates ad nauseum on whether they were "healthy enough" and what it meant for the country's image. And the memes....the memes.
this would really depend on party affiliation
@@caomhan84 interestingly, half the country didn't bother about the negative image president agolf bonespur twitler gave USA, many of his supporters even see it as a good thing!! Insane.
The media looked out for what’s best for America unlike now they would see America go down, to get a story, a story that might be a lie.
@@caomhan84 yet you currently have Biden as President? Guess your theory just went bang.
I fast forward all the Rhoda and Natalie scenes and makes it watchable.
she was not trapped in europe she chose to stay, even fought to stay there. The way this is written it is like 'oh poor her' sorry if you make bad choices then you take responsibility for that decision. And off she goes again demanding she is jewish during war time, knowing what could happen to her and her uncle she shouts it from the roof tops
That was my reaction as well. Natalie placed herself in this mess.
She FA and FO.
When *THE WINDS OF WAR* came out, I had just turned 12 some months prior; before binge-watching it now, the only two scenes I remembered from the entire run are the Portuguese wedding scene... and the massacre of the Jews over 75 minutes into this cli[p.
DANG! 39:49 Husband walks through the door, wife runs down the stairs...... " DARLIIIIIIIIIING" Throws her cheating arms around him (laughter)
Yep!! Thought the same thing. Then how she couldn't wait to tell her harpy friends about getting to go to Washington. I don't like her much less her character.
I’ve never met two crazier women in my life than that Rhoda and Natalie and I was raised by women from that era and I didn’t meet any as spoiled selfish and crazy as hell.
Ronnie Bishop you never met my mother (b 1912).
@@nhmooytis7058 THERE'S AN OLD SAYING: "YOU CAN PICK YOUR FRIENDS...YOU CAN EVEN PICK YOUR ENEMIES...BUT YOU CAN'T PICK YOUR RELATIVES!"
Dale Burrell if my extended family wasn’t family I’d have stopped speaking to them in the early 1980s.
@@nhmooytis7058 YOU'RE NOT ALONE- THAT'S FOR DOGGONE SURE!!!
I recall this series well. I even read Wouk’s book. For its time, this mini-series was the best historical fiction on tv, back in the day when there were just three choices. The work has not aged well, in my opinion. My impression of the wooden acting, unfortunately, seems to have been spot on. What bothered me then and worse now, was the intransigent bull-headedness of Aaron and his niece. I am aware that there were Jews who felt Naziism would pass. There were many more who judged those devils correctly.
Not only that people who are in the know are telling Natalie and Aaron to leave and leave now and still they ignore that good advice. Even Natalie's friend who works in the foreign service is telling her to leave.
How many got away? There were six million plus who didn’t. Even when Natalie and her uncle tried every obstacle was put in their way because the Nazi’s wanted Jastrow for propaganda purposes. Yes, many got away, but just as many who tried desperately never did escape. Judging people because they didn’t get out is really not fair.
The poor Henry men; chained to two insane, bi-polar women.
I presume you're talking about Rhoda and Natalie - but later on we see what a piece of work Janice is, too.
(Hmm, since they're all fictional characters, I wonder what that says about Herman Wouk.) 😎
Never understood why churchhill couldn't walk over to the American ship instead of Roosevelt walking over to the British ship. 1. Roosevelt can barely walk, and he's an honorable man to use the chair. 2. it's the British that was asking for the Americans' help into winning ww2. Idk, it would've been the Respectable thing to do on churchhill behalf.
@Michelle.0307 British ships carried alcohol.
Thank you for sharing this wonderful movie 🎬
And many today have never seen this nor will again. You that don't know or understand WWII need to watch this and learn. This was America.
When hatred runs deep😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢 damn
show of hands to anyone who wants to smack Rhoda across the face everytime she opens her mouth.
DANG! 39:49 Husband walks through the door, wife runs down the stairs...... " DARLIIIIIIIIIING" Throws her cheating arms around him (laughter)
THAT DAMN Rhoda again! " Rhoda! When you calm down from yapping I have something to tell you" "I have something to tell YOU too". Once Rhoda found out it was dinner at the White House! Heck she forgot ALL about telling him about her and Palmer(laughter)
Anyone remember Rhoda at a big dinner in Berlin when she couldn't keep her mouth shut at dinner. WELL here she go again here at the White House. JUST WHY would they put her next to Roosevelt?
Yes, but Bergen at least plays her very well as written. Ali MacGraw is the one I want to really smack for terrible acting!
Her and Natalie are cut from the same cloth.
One of the most powerful TV theme songs ever written.
Herman Wouk, author of the Winds of War died on May 17th. He was 103.
Brian Sedlock,
I saw that too. He lived a nice long life. Thanks for sharing.
By the way, I was watching the sequel War & Remembrance on U Tube (I was on part V) and all of a sudden all the episodes are gone?
@@frankkinley6272 they're back, just a different person uplaoded them. so annoying.
YES WE KNOW! you dont have to spam and tell us in every episode, you moron!
Everyone should be required to watch this series in high school and understand our history and that Freedom is not Free. God Bless our "World's Greatest Generation" and all Veterans, we must treasure, and respect "Freedom of Speech" a cornerstone of our foundation. God, Family and Country. 1776
Who was the "World's Greatest Generation"?
Amen.
@@thevillaaston7811 she was referring to the World War II generation who were pretty awesome.
@@Americanpatriot-zo2tk
If she was referring to the World War II generation across the world as the "World's Greatest Generation", then fine.
If she was referring to the World War II generation in the USA as the "World's Greatest Generation", then she can shove it.
@@thevillaaston7811 I don’t know they were pretty awesome you had the women that came out and women didn’t work back men were like Rosie riveters the men went and fought the country got built frankly we’ve been living off the carcass World War II ever since. That’s what propelled us to a world power.yes, I’m 60 so on the generation right after the baby boomers and all fully acknowledge I think the World War II generation people in the United States were awesome.
ive watched both series SEVERAL TIMES...... and im still surprised how EVERYBODY IS KISSING EVERYBODY..... im like, aint yall married to other people?????
So you have no idea,m who the French are,
@@leahwhiteley5164 i was talking about the americans (2 years ago).... and no frenchman wants his wife kissing another man THAT WAY!!! .....plus didnt the storyline show that???
this is some of the earliest tv from my memory. as I recall, we were still using our horse and buggy then.
Now they want us to go back to horse and buggy. Except the horses poop and destroy the ozone layer.
Are you Amish?😂
Brilliant series.
Natalie really manipulated slote . First she's not staying at his hotel room then when she tells him she's marrying Byron she asks to stay in the room and he has to stay somewhere else.
Not to mention her flakiness , indecivness regarding the marriage.
That's exactly what i was thinking. She is a flippant user.
@~1:06:15, there was a great line from some nazi tank officer about the impossibility of conquering the ussr, "we have done things never before done in war, we could and did conquer 50 km of territory a day for days on end and yet no matter how much we took there was always thousands more km to go."
When Pug is talking to with the State Department guy. U can See what type of Guy he would’ve been. I bet he’d been a Hard Man. U couldn’t have read a man like Pug. Ud never know what he was thinking.. But I think it was like that for Most men during their era. Living through WW1, SpAnish flu, Great Depression & WW2.. All of those men would be harden I guess that’s why they are the “Greatest Generation” could U imagine 2DAYS generation trying to live through those events.. They’re too worried about what Pro-Noun U use & having boys play against girls because they feel like a girl inside.
Poor Leslie Slote can't get a chance at romance in this whole series.
lisa martin- His bad luck finally comes to it's logical conclusion in the sequel!
He has a few liaisons in the books. But the women he sleeps with are just attempts to get over Natalie. He even makes a pass at Pamela but notices that she's too into Pug for his attempts to have any success. I do kinda wish that he and that Swiss Jewish girl from War and Remembrance had at least had an affair. She seemed a good change...but he still compared her to Natalie.
yea Natalie did not want to be married to her father. too bad for old slote.
@@randolphkersey5155 I don’t know, Ali McGraw aint no spring chicken either
He was the lucky one. I thought all of the romances between the main characters were horrible.
2:17 Before he wrote anything else, Herman Wouk was a gag writer for Fred Allen, one of the most popular radio comedians.
I read the book;War and Remembrance several Christmas’es ago,and into the New Year.I finished the 📕 book by spring,I think.I’m glad that my dad saved this book 📕 for me to read,and,I throughly enjoyed it!😊😊😊😊😢😢😢😢😢
Rhoda is so darn primitive, and shallow… I can’t believe. Victor is trying to win a war and all she cares is her hairdresser and stupid dresses 🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️ gets on my nerves like Nathalie. 😮
Yes, Rhoda think she is the center of the universe.
Palmer is just as bad or worse than Rhoda he knows pug he knows she’s a married woman but all he can think about is hopping up and down on her. You know who Palmer it would serve him right if he ended up with her.
I wish Natalie had come home and we would have been spared 12 episodes of her further mistakes in War and Remembrance!
+Bill B yeah she´s unbearable.
+saa82vik I thought I was the only one. Drove me nuts.
Yeah, it really frustrated the realist in me. Hollywood! However, every mistake led to another intimate look into historical moments of WWII. I really appreciate this series!
Ali McGraw - the worst actress I've ever seen.
Wouk needed her to act like an idiot so that we could have a POV character for later events
AND Rhoda. Your husband out in war and you're carrying on with the mutual family friend.
She was and still is a LOSE ,Dumb Broad Anyway ! Wonder under what circumstances Captain Henri ,met her or worse Marry her ?
@Time to make Changes he was not the first person to fire torpedoe@ that Broad . He could dump her in a Whore House for ALL HE COULD CARE ! LOL
"Monkey-branching"
Great series!! Though I Wish they would have kept Ali McGraw and Jan Michael Vincent in war and remembrance Their replacements were not at their level.
GREAT BACKGROUND MUSIC ❤️
Today’s media would have complained if “onward Christian soldier” were played today by anybody, especially the military.
jeff lockaby The media was different then. They actually reported the news, Roosevelt was the President that started the welfare system we have today that lazy asses use who don’t want to work. Roosevelt was a piece of dog shit that knew peal harbor was going to be attacked. The blood is on his hands.
jeff lockaby trump never started a world war where millions perished.
Jimbo Bell really, the whole world? So I guess you know every single person in the whole world. If everybody hates trump like you claim then that tells me he’s not a push over like the democrats who want to have open borders, free health care for illegals, burning, looting, rioting, murder, assaulting people, etc. TRUMP 2020 BABY, LIKE A BOSS!!!!!
jeff lockaby you democrats like to bring up trumps morals what a bunch of hypocrites. The Democratic Party that’s just fine with late birth abortions, rioting, looting, pillaging, assaulting, killing, free everything to illegals, etc.. Democrat/communists always like to point out Trumps faults but they should look into a mirror.
jeff lockaby the democrats have you brainwashed good. Keep drinking the Marxist/Democratic koolaid until you wake up one day and enter have any Constitutional rights.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘
Rhoda, is a social climber
That's one way to put it.
“While the German pack tactic was effective, it had several drawbacks. Most notably, wolfpacks required extensive radio communication to coordinate the attacks. This left the U-boats vulnerable to a device called the High Frequency Direction Finder (HF/DF or Huff-Duff), which allowed Allied naval forces to determine the location of the enemy boats transmitting and attack them.”
A social climbing wife is all you need when you are fighting a World War!
My gosh, these are such Good actors. Thank You!
I've seen both this miniseries and its sequel and it still galls me to see Aaron be so irritatingly stubborn and stupid. With even half of a brain he would have survived.
Good series, some inaccuracies, and the naval fleet models were a bit obviously shot in an oversized bath tub, but expected for a series made in the early 80s.
This film deserves a viewing on PBS. The audience would be perfect!
yes its mostly propaganda
@@sitting_nutanother keyboard warrior 😂
@@nhmooytis7058 ? pointing out this show is propaganda makes me a "keyboard warrior" ? or did you mean the op? be clear and specific..
@@sitting_nut I don’t feed trolls.
@@nhmooytis7058 is that why you started this by barging in here? pathetic much? anyway thanks for confirming your ignorance, confusion, and irrationality.
Chop out Rhoda and Natalie and you have a fine two-episode film.
Enjoying this for the first time... don't know much about the author but have been looking for a decent American / western historical drama outside of the typical Hollywood genre.
...Regarding factual history, close is good enough, take with a grain of salt. The key is knowing history on your own dime.
I find Asian historicals especially those with state subsidy had been more prolific prior to recent years, and are of good quality.
Both books are excellent!
46:00 Bismarck was not a pocket battleship. it was a monster of 50,000 t, surpassed only by Iowa and Yamato
I Know ! What was HE talking about.......pocket-battleship.......HUH ?
actually the Yamato was the monster and then only in weight. The Iowa Class were the longest Battleships ever built at 888 ft
The greatest generation, the can do generation..
It’s hard to believe we are facing the same threat this time it’s Russia and china
Didn’t think Churchill was the best choice for actor and definitely didn’t think Ali McGraw was good