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Your mr birtrum analisys was pretty fun, so i wouldnt mind you failing to meet the promice that you wont touch it 😅 This one in particular i feel like has a lot of value in reguards to what can be done against far right propaganda in order to effectivelly subvert it. Becauae as it becomes more prevelent and more resourcefull, we need better strategies to fight back, and i feel we have kindof missed the mark in a lot of ways here on the opposing team when it comes to this. Have a great day
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The show accidentally being kinda gay wouldn’t be surprising if you listened to Ben Shapiro. He is literally an effeminate man who hates women and is obsessed with the trappings of masculinity. Like he claims to be a straight man but all he can think about women is how disgusting it is when you can see their bodies. Yet he LOVES athletes and body builders. Ben is gay y’all
@PillarofGarbage ⚠️More context for you⚠️ Having listened to The original Birtchum from the 1990 radio call-in bits, to Loveline, to The Man Show, to crank yankers… Almost ALL of those are OLD 20yr+ old bits at the expense of ‘the Gays’ as the Vietnam War Vet would put it. And because they are all out of context and smushed in to a modern storyline your take is not wrong. The true character, as originally intended, was the definition of a homophobe of today. What was missing was what the editors and animators took out for time or convince or to change the joke was the overt objection to anything gay. Making it funny when Birtchum would describe things in almost explicitly gay way, while insisting anything gay was wretched and vile… the irony So without the irony of the old gay jokes (from when they were socially acceptable) it like you said becomes just gay. Modern script supervisors and directors who weren’t even alive when Birtchum was created completely changed this character 💯. I do not recognize him, just the shells of his deeply neutered jokes about gay sounding construction terms. The DW+ K;//ed Birtchum, they never should have made this if they were going to be so Politically Correct about it. On the other hand let the queer fan base have him, with no new material in 30years I was less than interested to begin with. Good read on the situation though 👍
Sorry son, according to Marxists masculine homosexuals are actually pickmes and therefore and not part of the LGBTQ community. There's also the fact that y'all have literally spent years trying to equate effeminacy with homosexuality, you don't get to change the rules all of the sudden.
The curse of the Christian family model - What do you do when every relationship you're able to form relies on the context of family, but you hate your wife or kids? They don't leave because unless they can prove that their wife is unfaithful, they get ostracised for divorcing her.
I actually really enjoy it when straight dudes aren't using this cliched sitcom routine. It's cool, heterosexual person, to have healthy adult relationships and like your wife.
Now that you mention it, "unfortunately" implies that he wishes that his fortune was different, so yeah, probably he's interested in a gay relationship but he has to keep the acting of a white heterosexual male or there will be social consecuences on him. Truly a show that shows the struggle of a gay male that has to fit in a society that doesn't want him to be gay.
Having never seen the show, I'm guessing Birchum is in a passionless marriage with a wife he doesn't like. And he shares more scenes with the gay character than he does with his wife.
It's also hilarious how anti "Art" he is. Bro, Woodworking IS ART. Have you seen any beautifully curved cabinets, luxuriously crafted old chairs, chain-saw-made photo-realistic statues, ludicrously expensive stair-case end pieces, shiny lacquered cherry wood tables, and just fucking Mahogany in general?! He needs to get out of his closet and embrace the true beauty of woodworking.
This is because in a conservative mind, anything that expresses beauty but also has functionality is given another name. It doesn't need to be called art if it has functional or talent-based merits on which it can be assessed. The word "Art" covers everything that's left over when artistic disciplines they view as useful and/or skill-expressive have been given other names. Art is inherently negative to a conservative not because they hate beauty, but because when they hear the word "art", they only think of the kinds of art and artists that don't fit into any valuable other category.
Being anti art is a whole handful of red flags in itself, signaling various far right neurosis. Double if they think the only good art is marble statues and oil paintings more than 500 years old. Quadruple if they call newer art 'degenerate'
@@yurisei6732 Art is inherently political/radical and conservatives fundamentally refuse to engage with complex politics and sociology. With this in mind, one should concur that conservatives are fundamentally anti-art (minus the 'non-taboo' art they're allowed to express). They seek to limit/extinguish the individual's expression (what 'art' is) and force them to conform to the collective. Conservatives create art in an ironic self-congratulatory way. "Yay, you've created something that's almost the exact same as what your ancestors did." Maybe they should try creating something that challenges the perception of the world and explores the phenomena of human experience in a refreshing way instead of rehashing what was done already thousands of years prior. Too bad conservatism lacks innovation.
I work as a teacher, so I wanna know what world does the Daily Wire live in where shop classes are getting their budgets slashed while art classes get more budget. In reality, if anything, both get their budgets cut, while sports is either untouched or gets more funding.
@@musclestruts5032 and its usually the conservatives fault! They're the types to continually insist on/support slashing funding for schools, leading to the schools to cut programs, and sports is untouched probably because if kids play sports they're more likely to suffer brain injuries that leave them as adults more susceptible to the conservative "slash the school budget" ideology
the other funny part is that outside these circles the show isn't popular so a lot of peoples only interaction with this piece of media is literally the gay art and response to it
I just want to know what bizarro universe this show takes place in where schools are increasing art funding, because it sure as shit isn't this universe.
The same one where a middle school in this, the year of Our Lord 2024, has a dedicated wood shop class. Seriously, I was in middle school in the late 90's and we didn't even have one of those.
The thing I love most about the engayening of Mr Birchum is Ben Shapiro now faces an incredibly painful decision; either follow the free market, make Mr Birchum an explicitly queer show and rake in the big bucks, or stand his ground and go bankrupt in the process. Quite literally, he either has to go woke, or go broke. Fucking priceless.
Their funding is very much behind the scenes which is kind of ironic that conservatives tend to have all these "they" conspiracies held as fundamental tenants of how Hollywood and the media work.
Not knowing the context nor the plot of this show, the idea that an ultra conservative group made the most unironically accurate representation of a closeted homosexual by complete accident whilst shining a light at the absurdity of their idea of masculinity is very funny to me.
@@Frommerman It's really, really sad because it seems like the whole show is based on the delusion that their dad was the perfect man. I bet Corolla really misses his dad and this is the only way he can deal with it.
m.youtube.com/@Frommerman Thank you. You have put the right's views on masculinity ,or what I think of their views on masculinity, into words far better than I ever could have. Thanks again. Also to the men who ever read this: Life truthfully has no individual meaning. Your lifes purpose is not to be a ' provider' , who marrieS Only women, who is always miserable cause he has to do what he thinks will make his siblings, friends, grandpa, pa, and sons see him as more 'manly' Each individual person gives their own lives their own meanings. Likewise, Each man must give his life its own meaning to himself. Each man that youve seen that is old AND happy gave their lives the neaning that THEY wanted to have their life mean when they were young and they are still running with it. Thats why theyre still happy. They chose their own meaning to life and continued running with it. That's it.
@@manfredrichtoften8848 both the directors of the matrox are trans women and the film is a trans allegory! i would look it up simce other people have talked about it way more eloquently than i could
Mr. Birchum is like this because back in his day, our Daddies taught us not to be ashamed of our dicks! ...'Specially since they're such good size and all...
There’s no bit. Strip away the poorly-written conservative propaganda and you’re left with an animated sitcom about a man who just…ya know…really loves ‘wood’. 😏
My favorite part about Mr. Birchum is that he's a Vietnam vet and even if he was like 18 and got drafted, he'd be pushing 80 at the time of the series. This is the level of care that went into the writing of a character that has been trying to get off the ground since like the early 90s. Karponzi clearly likes the silver foxes is what I'm getting at here.
The 'early 90's part if what explain it - he'd only have had to be in his 50's to have served in 'Nam in the 90's, so they did the maths then and simply never updated his lore.
@@trianglemoebiusAmerica left Vietnam in 1975 which saw Vietnam reunify under the Communist government, ending what we in the US call the “Vietnam War”, so that still doesn’t make sense, unless Mr. Birchum volunteered to join the People’s Liberation Army and fight against Vietnam under the flag of China in the year 1990 and/or 1991 (and I don’t get the feeling he would do that)
Reminds me of that one guy (Crowder, I think) saying that if we were to allow people to be gay, no new children would be born - implying that he thinks all straight people are just closeted gay people
It reminds me of a very passionate debate I once had with a classmate of mine over the issue of gender fluidity. He *insisted* that it was perfectly normal to feel like different genders at different times, and we all just use the identity markers of our sex assigned at birth, and that trans and gender fluid people need to stop making a spectacle of themselves. They came out two years later.
Nah, it ain’t ironic. You can tell cause they seethe about gays when they aren’t being gay themselves. Making gay jokes is funny, but they tell on themselves when they get super defensive about them being gay
*Gestures broadly at the USMC* Just a little joke, but I swear everybody I know who went into. The Marines was either the gayest straight person ever or the straightest gay person ever.
@scratch7971 seriously. god forbid you _dont_ openly mock gay people infront of them... aftet they just mooned their friend on facetime whilst drunk. yeah , _suuuuure_ you're straight...
Unironically the story of a conservative dad slowly developing feelings for his gay coworker and rethinking his ideas of masculinity would have been a wayyy better story than whatever the actual show is trying to push.
I'd be down for that cartoon. Kind of like a more serialized, slow burn King of the Hill where the MC is more conservative and less likely to rethink his positions by the end of one episode. Sounds like it'd be great for streaming if any platform would be willing to greenlight more than 8 episodes a season. Only slight snag I see is that you'd need to establish early on the MC has endearing and redeeming qualities the audience wants to watch even before they start changing their minds. If he was just a bigoted conservative, I don't know if people would stick around for the shift since we all know and see bigoted conservatives and what they're like and we're sick of them. Maybe it could try to nail the tricky angle of sympathy for conservatives where it's recognized they truly believe they're well intentioned and that the culture was bs is a prison, of their own design yes, but one a lot of conservatives are slow to realize they can just leave (and in some cases, they can't just leave. Family, friends, work culture, wife, etc. can make rejecting the surrounding conformity tricky.)
@@red-rr3isI think it’s pretty obvious that jotaros main sexuality was “I must kill Dio” and after he had fulfilled his sexual desire he was just swinging that thing to see if he could get the same reaction
To quote Matteo Lane: "It's so hard to describe gay icons to straight people. They just don't get it. Like, 'Wait, Maleficent, Miss Piggy, and the Barefoot Contessa are all gay icons? [...] Why Maleficent?' 'Uh, she's got horns and she's a cxnt, I don't know."'
This show is, inadvertently, a perfect demonstration of how a rugged, manly conservative often belies a deeply, *deeply* closeted person, someone so lost in the closet they have no idea they're in one.
The circumstances and the ideology play off of each other in a feedback loop. The generic conservative man is forced to spend their life with a woman they hate and have negative chemistry with, doing whatever's necessary to spend more time with men. He's only okay with this because he's predetermined (by religion, generational trauma, etc.) that this is normal and that everyone else must be wrong. He must not be gay because there's no room in his headcanon for that.
Oh I would laugh so f*cking hard at the future where this show doesn't get a season 2 because of abysmal streaming numbers, Adult Swim buys it out for peanuts, and gives it a few more seasons where they take the much better ironic fans proposed idea of Birchum being a Ron Swanson type with a heart and willing to change his mind about a changing, more progressive world and running with it. That probably won't happen but I'd do a hell of a lot to see the alternate universe where it does. Maybe they could go all in on Birchum/Karponzi having something going on and use that as an in to have a respectful depiction and arc about consensual open relationships while also tackling the topic of older people realizing they're queer and what that means for their lives.
If the writers behind this show were actually artists they'd lean into the queerness in a hypothetical season 2. You can still have Birchum be a conservative Ron Swanson type, but you could have him learn to be a more compassionate man through Karponzi. Likewise you could have Karponzi grow to be less insufferable and more aware of things like optics and bad faith actors. Have them learn from each other and grow, y'know? But their politics demand that art bend the knee to the culture war.
That's the thing though, right? From their perspective, he's already arrived and everyone else needs to get there. There is little space for something like 'optics' and 'bad faith actors'.
If anything they’re going to go harder on the culture war claptrap given the negative response a lot of hardcore evangelicals and other super conservatives have had about the show being “too gay”.
My favorite tid bit about Adam Carolla is he had a show where they would go do repairs on peoples houses who had been screwed by bad repairmen, the show ended because they got sued for being bad repairmen themselves
"I'm a deeply closeted gay man" "you're a gay man?" "I'm not gay! I said deeply closeted! I'm as straight as an arrow!" That Norm Macdonald joke just came to mind
?? I am suddenly reminded of a moment in the film PECKER, where some guy dancing on a bar is suddenly confronted by his shocked mother... something like "Mom, I'M not gay, gay guys blow ME!". I might be a little off, but it was something like that. Or a sketch long ago on Second City TV (?) where a drunk sports fan is being strenuously proposition by a gay man. The drunk says something like "But I'm not gay, eh?", and his new friend reassures him "Oh, no, no... that's MY job!", and they stagger off arm in arm. I think both of these are relevant here, but I've had a quiet life and can't really judge. To some extent I want to watch this show because I'm a cranky old shop teacher, and also because I live in a college town "where everyone has their own diet, gender and religion", and sometimes it's funny and annoying as it stands! Surrounded as I am by artists, writers, musicians and hopeless alcoholics... it does sometimes seem like I'm living in a cartoon! This cartoon we're seeing glimpses of... it might not be trying that hard. None of this is to say that it's any good! I THINK with little evidence that they might show us something that's in plain sight that we don't see. In my own life I never noticed that white people were funny until I saw a few episodes of Living Color, and a generation later on RUclips the Chen Brothers doing little sketches where one brother puts on a blonde wig and does the part of typical white guy (in the context of cooking or eating in a restaurant mostly), and it's really on the nose! I DO and SAY a lot of the white guy stuff that they are laughing about! I DO have five or six whisks to mix stuff instead of just a pair of chopsticks. GOING FORWARD if I'm in STEM Instruction environment, (a SHOP I want to say, but no... MakerSpace? Yeah, it's like that every day) and everyone starts laughing, now I'll know why!
You're not wrong. At least on an individual basis, some articles and coverage noted people saying that it ['triggering the libs'] wasn't fun if [their targets] weren't responding and getting mad. That is, they're more interested in the feeling of winning and the adrenaline of hating/getting a reaction from the other than engaging and enjoying with their own politics and beliefs.
@@dieucondorimperial2509 I think there's also an aspect where art, for the right, must have a practical tangible purpose in the same way that 'hard work' like Birchum's woodworking is a practical skill and outcome. Art as experience, art as creation, art as expression, art as exploration isn't necessarily acceptable. Thus much of their art is far more explicitly propaganda - extolling their own views as well as demonizing their current targets - over saying something broader or attempting to carry a conversation of persuasion. I doubt we would really ever see a conservative show that was a true slice of life or character journey in the same vein as, say, Steven Universe. If we did, it would likely be co-opted from something else such as American History X.
@@dieucondorimperial2509 Building off of the previous comment, art’s freedom of expression often clashes with conservative’s ideal of conformity. Conservatives art has the priority of preserving/ idealizing the status quo which in turn restricts what can actually be made.
Looking back on Birchum's and Karponzi's dynamic throughout the show, it is indistinguishable from that of countless mid-2000s romcoms with hetero couples so it really doesn't surprise me that this was the result.
In fairness, I can't remember the last time I saw a heterosexual romance in western media that actually felt romantic. It's always just "There is a man and a woman, so obviously they bang". Americans tend to end up putting more romantic subtext into relationships they're trying to depict as friendships or rivalries than they do into relationships they're trying to depict as romantic, because "and then they had sex" is the only thing you need to do to show the nature of a romantic relationship.
I saw a comment on another video that sums it up: “Nothing says conservative, Christian values like a man who loves wood and avoiding his wife and being around big hard wood and being in the navy with his fellow seamen where he ignores his wife and thinks about wood and sometimes he tells a bunch of little kids to come round to his house and touch his wood and not tell their parents about getting their hands on his tools and… they *really* didn’t put any thought into how any of this would sound, did they?”
They might as well be straight, the thing is, they are fed and perpetuate an impossible, incoherent idea of manliness. For one it leaves them frustrated as they fail to live up to it, while it also stands in the way of them exploring why they feel that way. One way or the other, they are certainly traped in some kind of closet.
He do love wood though. It says it right on his mugs. God damn, the fact they are making gay fanart is fucking amazing. Media is truly out of the hands of the author and in the audiences now.
IDK how they didnt catch this, but wood is slang for p*nis in some cultures, so it can be interpreted as "I love p*nis" for the creators of the show who hate gay & trans, this is very ironic!
I hope the Daily Wire heads realize that absolutely no one respects them as creatives. Given how many of them are Hollywood failures I doubt it’s a new experience
@@antediluvianatheist5262 Daily wire are controlled opposition, they rarely talk about the actual problems and instead focus on culture war drivel that just divides the country even more
Also I think the irony here of conservatives being entirely unable to stand a piece of media simply for having a gay character at all, while leftists are finding a level of enjoyment in this conservative main character that is intended to be against them really shows some fundamental difference in the perspectives and attitudes of left and right wing people.
Yeah, this show and the DW seem to be saying "we are ok with minorities as long as they don't accuse us or financial structures of taking away their rights," but the actual people who follow the DW tend to be far more racist and homophobic.
A bunch of bad writers who were rejected by the actual media industry, because they are such bad writers, writing a show to make fun about gay people and because they are so bad at writing it, they accidentally make the main character a closeted gay person is just absolutely hilarious
A man (cough bear cough) in his probably late 40's or 50's thats so comically anti-left and hypermasculine who does everything he can to get on the nerves of a more younger openly liberal man and also does WOODWORKING? That sounds like something id write for a 200k word slowburn old men yaoi fanfic goddamn
I think this is because the western image of masculinity is already inherently homoerotic, and that only escapes our notice because we're not commonly talking about homosexuality. Talking about homosexuality inevitably causes you to start thinking about the homoeroticism of masculinity. Mr Birchum doesn't have any more homoeroticism than anything that depicts men catering to the male gaze, it just makes you notice it more.
this happens a lot in anime, naruto is a good example of this where the two main male leads have a better relationship with each other than their female love interests who they later marry!
It’s the Rob Liefeld problem. When everyone is theoretically as straight as possible, the most heightened version of their gender as possible, no one is. It all becomes camp. Rob Liefeld was cursed to never make a fictional straight man and so was Bircham.
I once had a conservative relative, who, might i say has been married and divorced 3 times say that only men can come and i was honest to god not trying to laugh because now ik why he got divorced sm
not the first time someone wanted to make a character Ultra masculine and accidently made them super gay. It's almost as if masculinity and masculine expression is very popular in gay culture.
What's funny is that it's clearly meant to be a homophobic joke, like "oh, see, he's saying he likes a euphemism for dicks, but he's just saying it ironically because he's not really a (slur slur slur)" without realizing that just reinforces the idea of Birchum as a closeted gay man.
It's amazing how much Mr. Birchum failed at what it was meant to achieve. On one had you got its right-wing target audience rejecting the show for not being outwardly bigoted enough, and on the other you got the left-wing audience the show tried so hard to offend turning its characters into queer icons out of sheer spite.
@@nerag7459 Fair enough. It's VERY easy to read as a closeted gay man hiding under a fragile idea of masculinity, which makes this whole thing even funnier.
That’s the amazing part. They successfully appealed to those it was supposed to anger. There’s genuinely no spite behind the yaoi, they are enjoying themselves
The way I found out this show was a video of somebody ranking Mr Birchum yaoi fanart, and I was so disappointed when I found out what it actually was...
7:40 - Now, I'm not saying this guy is definitely a closeted Gay Republican, I'm just saying that if I were asked to draw the most obvious closeted Gay Republican, this is exactly how the character would look.
Daily Wire- “We’re gonna make this super anti-woke, offensive cartoon. That’ll rile those libs up!” The rest of the internet- “And so you’ve crafted the tools of your own destruction”
It's not about the actual content, it's just that they exist, is there any actual viewership numbers for any of their stuff? They just need to show that they're making something to grift their audience's and investors' money. Is it resonating with its demographic is it messaging conveyed who cares and none of these things go past the season anyways, except for my boy Bendejo, because it's his tree fort
Some elements I caught while watching as well: - The schools mascot is the "rough riders" okay come on now - Before watching the burly men outside as a boy, he was watching a show about space rockets (very common phallus joke on literally any TV show ever) - The character was partially based on Nick Offerman's performance as Ron Swanson and Offerman himself is a noted progressive who supported Elizabeth Warren in the 2020 democratic primary. Offerman is also a supporter of LGBT rights and recently played a gay man in the Last of Us TV adaptation - Another background element is the "save the dolphins" sticky note, dolphins are notably yet another famously gay animal when it comes to TV writers' perception of them at least. - His thermos is made by "staley", clearly an attempt at parodying the Stanley brand which has a large following of predominantly straight women and queer men - Ain't no way the man's name is also Dick, they're not even trying to hide it - There's also an inherent homo-eroticism about woodwork, sort of like there is with pottery. Drilling some wood until the shrapnel comes off? Was it possible to give him an even more gay job?
According to my mom who was alive when this show was written (the 90s) Stanley used to be a masculine man construction worker brand. They just didn't bother to update their show that didn't go live for 30 years
@@jamiejam9976 interesting, though given how many "culture war" specific talking points do get brought up in the show... like clearly they did re-write or update certain elements prior to releasing it but didn't bother to look up details like this even though the Stanley hype has been one of the most annoyingly persistent online trends for like a year now? not being aware of that but claiming to do any kind of cultural analysis with your show is wilder than doing 30-years-ago analysis to begin with...
I think the biggest sin of this show is that there is a decent premise hidden inside, but by nature of who made it, it can never achieve that potential. A show about a conservative shop teacher in a failing marriage learning to be a better person because he falls in love with the new openly queer teacher is a fantastic premise. Instead they made the worst possible King of the Hill knockoff. Proof positive that conservatives cannot succeed in the creative arts.
There's even a functional premise if you're insistent on telling a story that adheres to conservative beliefs - a story focused on Mr Birchum's mancrush moving to this small town from a city and learning that following Birchum's way of life is the solution to his many problems. Or a story from the perspective of one of the children, who is being bullied and is taught by Birchum how to be strong and independent. These are still clearly very conservative premises, but they would have the structure of a real story about character development. But conservatives can't have that, because the stories they tell need to be about people who are already perfect conservatives going around pointlessly criticising everyone else. Conservatives would tell a story about Jesus and make Jesus the protagonist.
Yeah, because if this was written by someone not pushing a agenda, we could have had king of the hill 2.0 He learns he likes something that's not totally and completely masculine, like baking or cooking or gardening. He learns that people he disagrees with he can just live and let live. He becomes actually good friends with the gay teacher, learns to be a better husband and father and his son actually makes some money by being a streamer and gets a girlfriend. We can dream can't we
Like it would be great if they just made fun of both political sides and had some depth and actually make good jokes, but I don’t think we will ever get it. Instead of clever jokes we get people making fun of pronouns over and over again. Like that gets old after a long time, it becomes boring, not good comedy.
@@yurisei6732 The worst thing is that it wouldn't even be Bible-accurate or even Bible-adjacent Jesus either, but it would instead be the Reagonomics Jesus of the Evangelicals who hates the poor and loves the rich and is actively malicious to anyone who doesn't already agree with him.
It would never happen, but it would be so awesome if the show was actually building towards Birchum coming out. Imagine it: a show that presents itself as conservative horseshit, little by little tears away at those ideas. birchum starts to learn about the flaws in his ideology, starts to question his queer tendencies, and starts opening up to new ideas. would be an incredible arc. too good for a show like this.
I think it's so funny when someone make a show supposedly hating on the LGBTQ community, and then the LGBTQ community takes it and makes it queer. It's extra funny if some ship art is in the first batch of Google images when you Google a character from the show. 🌈
I feel like another aspect to the response is probably that, while conservatives generally aren't in touch with actual queer culture and are so caught up in heteronormativity that they often dont realize when something looks queer, queer people are incredibly used to looking for queer coding. Very often queer people grow up without media to represent them, and so you just get used to looking for characters that could be interpreted as queer and claiming them because you don't have anything else.
They wrote what they imagine to be a clear and uncontroversially masculine character. They would consider that totally mutually exclusive woth queerness. Mr birchum could easily be a straightforwardly straight man. He could just as easily be a repressed bear. The fact that those realities look exactly the same is precisely the kind of nuance that the writers aren't capable of noticing, so things like this will keep happening.
The animation was actually outsourced to a studio in I believe Spain? They were given barely any budget which is why they had to reuse a lot of assets and animate on fours in some scenes. Also a lot of the people on the team were queer themselves and hated having to work on it. Basically, don't blame the animators who were forced to make this slop to pay rent, blame the wealthy people at the DW for being cheap and then lying about it claiming the show is "100% made in America"
@@Sootielove LMAO YEAH ME TOO Honestly considering the post about most of the animation crew being queer… it would not surprise me if they put extra effort in that scene for a reason.
Conservatives: hah! whiny liberal queer people are gonna be so mad when they see this show we made to make fun of them queer people: he's such a gay icon
It’s so crazy how they frame masculinity as like this horrible thing, but the best guys in the show are the ones that actually are kind and helpful: Birchum’s son, the former criminal, etc
@@Youcancallmeishmaellprotecting and being helpful are two different things. Ideally being a decent human being is helpful rather than protecting people have to be hurt to learn and grow and helping them grow at their own pace is the ideal form of masculinity as you protect them from recession into less smarter times while helping them grow. Being just protective is going to lead to a gap between you and that person
@@Youcancallmeishmaell that isn’t a burden. That’s like the literal bare minimum for caring about someone? If you think of that as a burden i don’t think you care about them😭☠️
The best part of this entire thing is that karponzi is literally a vaush reference so now there is more art of vaush being mpreg and its not just destiny fans that make the art
Archie Bunker was not right wing media. He was more a straw man to show how ridiculous the views are but also written with depth to show where those views come from. In the end, he learned to embrace the new and move, begrudgingly with the times. Maybe worth a video essay!
@@ehfoss The RUclips channel Jose (accent on the e, profile pic is a blue bird) does longform sitcom retrospectives and he has one about All in the Family if you wanted to check it out. They do tend to be long, so if hour+ videos aren't your thing, understandable, but they are great listens for doing another task like gaming or cleaning.
I think most people see that a lot of gay men are quite feminine and assume that straight is the masculine option. I'd argue being gay has always been more masculine, there's literally twice as many men involved, and it's because of this that a lot of gay men are feminine in other ways to balance out the homosexually. Masc gays are therefore the most manly people in existence so it makes sense that a character made to be as masculine as possible would read as gay.
Simultaneously being effeminate is gay culture but the second people call you emasculate you immediately start pointing out masculine gays to save face. Honestly if y'all were as half as masculine as you wished you were, people would respect you a lot more.
@@SaberSin-mu4ktbecause both masculine and feminine gay people can exist? Heck multiple types of people exist, you can have a personality without having to stick strictly to being masc or fem
You don’t know that many gay men. Many are masculine or a mixture of feminine and masculine. Plus it’s crazy how y’all forget about bisexual men. Not very open minded
God, this is fascinating. I was planning a video called "Being Conservative Is Narratively Unsatisfying" but I don't really feel comfortable being that overtly political, especially with a title that preachy and snobby, but it's amazing how Mr. Birchum completely highlights everything I wanted to mention. It's so bizarre how they seem to just hate everything and everyone and are openly miserable, and then expect you to hear that and go "Come be miserable with me!" Why do I have to hate my wife? Why do I have to have sex with a bunch of women in order to be a man, but then just pretend that never happened so my wife that I hate won't get mad at me? Why do I have to do "manly" activities? Why can't I enjoy my own hobbies? I could go on, but I'd just be repeating your points. It's so bizarre how they somehow create strawmen to shadow box and then lose to themselves. You can absolutely criticize our current political climate, but you have to be actually smart. You can do a good story about how people are too sensitive these days, but you have to actually SAY something that isn't just "i can't be offensive anymore." Either way, great video.
Unironically this would be a fire show if season 2 was about Birchum accepting queer identity even despite the fact that its different from what he knew
Yes but growth isn't allowed to happen in the current conservative landscape as it means you concede a point and you were WRONG. Which can't be because you picked the correct side or something and correctness is inherent to the "good"
The funniest thing to me about this is the fact thay they've been trying to get this show off the ground over two to three decades. It's like carrying a flag up Everest and a bird snatches it away right before you reach the summit.
Also Culture War is a right wing concept, it always was. The Left isn't doing it per say, not in the way the Right says it is. So the timeline is roughly, the right does culture war, the right accuses the left of culture war, the right says ok we need to respond to this attack with culture war. But it's just them all way way down politicizing everything, even cheap beer.
"the ideas and assumptions underpinning this season of TV fit together so pooly that they practically beg the viewer to deconstruct them." really well put!
Cmon. Let's just face facts that all of DW is performance art. Shapiro is a nasal sounding, prototypical closeted gay man. Walsh is an updated take on Archie Bunker with a little less subtlety and misplaced anger issues. These guys know that they are taking the piss out of their audience right to the bank. Its farcical.
IDK if shapiro's gay. He just gives that energy because he's a theater kid from california, holding himself up to the standard of a "macho man" while failing miserably so obviously.
Archie Bunker was far more of a man than those two homosexuals are - - it's a shame, cause Archie is a good guy with fair prejudice, but he still knows to put his family first and stil loves his family (and even Meathead) despite all their disagreements.
I used to be a fan of Adam back when I was 14 and he was on Loveline. From what I remember about him, he's not what he would probably see as aggressively homophobic, but he's still homophobic enough to think that just referencing homosexuality is in itself a joke. It's definitely something he always seemed inordinately fascinated with while also acting like gay people are just plain silly. Honestly, sometimes it seems like the people who most insist upon "manliness" tend to be more preoccupied with thinking about gay sex than openly gay people are.
Those people are gay/bi and they think EVERYONE has those feelings, but only the "godless queers" CHOOSE to follow those feelings. Its pretty sad tbh, but I dont feel much sympathy when they turn that cognitive dissonance and ignorance into hate and evil action against LGBTQ+ people/causes.
I don't think I've seen a writing misfire this bad since that time one of the Sonic comic writers tried to do a storyline based around a WW2 allegory. They wanted a super-edgy, hyper-offensive show that would "make all the snowflakes cry". What they made is an inoffensive wet fart that accidentally makes its main character appear to be a deeply closeted gay man.
The problem with the concept of the show is that the time when "men were real men"... never truly existed, it's a cultural myth used to shame. Now it's being used again but backfires as the lessons they try to hammer into their audience knows better. Toxic masculinity is always toxic because it's hiding something... just like the "I love wood" mug. They inadvertently made a character with resonance dissonance to their true emotions.
It's honestly kind of funny how a conservative show managed to be more queer then Heartstopper. It has major gay characters, a major character who uses neopronouns (They are there to be made fun of, but they're major characters), and a main character that, if this show was made by anyone else, I would expect to have the relatable plotline of 'Super conservative teacher realizes he's gay with the help of a new teacher at his school'.
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Your mr birtrum analisys was pretty fun, so i wouldnt mind you failing to meet the promice that you wont touch it 😅
This one in particular i feel like has a lot of value in reguards to what can be done against far right propaganda in order to effectivelly subvert it.
Becauae as it becomes more prevelent and more resourcefull, we need better strategies to fight back, and i feel we have kindof missed the mark in a lot of ways here on the opposing team when it comes to this.
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daily wire naming their main character Dick bc you are what you eat
The show accidentally being kinda gay wouldn’t be surprising if you listened to Ben Shapiro. He is literally an effeminate man who hates women and is obsessed with the trappings of masculinity.
Like he claims to be a straight man but all he can think about women is how disgusting it is when you can see their bodies. Yet he LOVES athletes and body builders.
Ben is gay y’all
@PillarofGarbage ⚠️More context for you⚠️
Having listened to The original Birtchum from the 1990 radio call-in bits, to Loveline, to The Man Show, to crank yankers…
Almost ALL of those are OLD 20yr+ old bits at the expense of ‘the Gays’ as the Vietnam War Vet would put it. And because they are all out of context and smushed in to a modern storyline your take is not wrong. The true character, as originally intended, was the definition of a homophobe of today.
What was missing was what the editors and animators took out for time or convince or to change the joke was the overt objection to anything gay. Making it funny when Birtchum would describe things in almost explicitly gay way, while insisting anything gay was wretched and vile… the irony
So without the irony of the old gay jokes (from when they were socially acceptable) it like you said becomes just gay.
Modern script supervisors and directors who weren’t even alive when Birtchum was created completely changed this character 💯. I do not recognize him, just the shells of his deeply neutered jokes about gay sounding construction terms.
The DW+ K;//ed Birtchum, they never should have made this if they were going to be so Politically Correct about it.
On the other hand let the queer fan base have him, with no new material in 30years I was less than interested to begin with.
Good read on the situation though 👍
Birchum is a log cabin Republican. A regular lumberjack if you would. A big bear. Homosexual.
this comment has the same energy as the Blazing Saddles bit that ends with "y'know...morons."
HE. LOVES. MEN- I MEAN WOOD.
@@rhaeven
They truly are the common clay of the new West, aren’t they?
ram ranch type shi
Sorry son, according to Marxists masculine homosexuals are actually pickmes and therefore and not part of the LGBTQ community.
There's also the fact that y'all have literally spent years trying to equate effeminacy with homosexuality, you don't get to change the rules all of the sudden.
“I hate my wife.”
Then leave her bro. 💀 isn’t that what you tell people when they say America isn’t going good enough.
The curse of the Christian family model - What do you do when every relationship you're able to form relies on the context of family, but you hate your wife or kids? They don't leave because unless they can prove that their wife is unfaithful, they get ostracised for divorcing her.
@@yurisei6732 It's such a frustrating thing to witness. I get absolutely demolished by the aftershocks caused by their cognitive dissonance.
@@yurisei6732 liberal Christians are more understanding of divorce thankfully
Who's gonna buy the wife, Aquaman?!
Wait dammit wrong bit-
I actually really enjoy it when straight dudes aren't using this cliched sitcom routine. It's cool, heterosexual person, to have healthy adult relationships and like your wife.
"Unfortuntatly, I'm taken"....... Doesn't that imply that he's interested???
Right Likeee 😭
YOU MIGHT BE ONTO SOMETHING
It might have been "unfortunately" as in he hates his wife but... One doesn't cancel the other does it 🤨
Now that you mention it, "unfortunately" implies that he wishes that his fortune was different, so yeah, probably he's interested in a gay relationship but he has to keep the acting of a white heterosexual male or there will be social consecuences on him. Truly a show that shows the struggle of a gay male that has to fit in a society that doesn't want him to be gay.
Tried to be sly, low-key has that smooth pickup line 😏
Having never seen the show, I'm guessing Birchum is in a passionless marriage with a wife he doesn't like. And he shares more scenes with the gay character than he does with his wife.
Very accurate
It's Technically true
ding ding ding
Correct!
Everything here is accurate, except Karponzi is actually straight and looks at noot noots of Nancy Pelosi.
It's also hilarious how anti "Art" he is. Bro, Woodworking IS ART. Have you seen any beautifully curved cabinets, luxuriously crafted old chairs, chain-saw-made photo-realistic statues, ludicrously expensive stair-case end pieces, shiny lacquered cherry wood tables, and just fucking Mahogany in general?!
He needs to get out of his closet and embrace the true beauty of woodworking.
This is because in a conservative mind, anything that expresses beauty but also has functionality is given another name. It doesn't need to be called art if it has functional or talent-based merits on which it can be assessed. The word "Art" covers everything that's left over when artistic disciplines they view as useful and/or skill-expressive have been given other names. Art is inherently negative to a conservative not because they hate beauty, but because when they hear the word "art", they only think of the kinds of art and artists that don't fit into any valuable other category.
Being anti art is a whole handful of red flags in itself, signaling various far right neurosis. Double if they think the only good art is marble statues and oil paintings more than 500 years old. Quadruple if they call newer art 'degenerate'
@@yurisei6732 Art is inherently political/radical and conservatives fundamentally refuse to engage with complex politics and sociology.
With this in mind, one should concur that conservatives are fundamentally anti-art (minus the 'non-taboo' art they're allowed to express). They seek to limit/extinguish the individual's expression (what 'art' is) and force them to conform to the collective.
Conservatives create art in an ironic self-congratulatory way. "Yay, you've created something that's almost the exact same as what your ancestors did." Maybe they should try creating something that challenges the perception of the world and explores the phenomena of human experience in a refreshing way instead of rehashing what was done already thousands of years prior. Too bad conservatism lacks innovation.
I work as a teacher, so I wanna know what world does the Daily Wire live in where shop classes are getting their budgets slashed while art classes get more budget. In reality, if anything, both get their budgets cut, while sports is either untouched or gets more funding.
@@musclestruts5032 and its usually the conservatives fault! They're the types to continually insist on/support slashing funding for schools, leading to the schools to cut programs, and sports is untouched
probably because if kids play sports they're more likely to suffer brain injuries that leave them as adults more susceptible to the conservative "slash the school budget" ideology
You cannot show me a bear smoking a cigarette after being ridden by a cowboy and try to tell me this was intended to be straight.
Great call out, has me 😂😂
Spare a horse, ride a cowboy
HOLY SHIT YOURE RIGHT
the other funny part is that outside these circles the show isn't popular so a lot of peoples only interaction with this piece of media is literally the gay art and response to it
😂 that's so great
Best part? Their target audience is so stupid that I'm sure many of them looked at the ironic fanart and wrote off the show as "woke media".
👍🏾@@matti.8465👏🏾
😆😅😂🤣
They literally did!
@@matti.8465They unironically did that. They called the inclusion of gay characters woke nonsense
Modern fascists are so bad at media production their attempts at producing intensely heterosexual art are easier to interpret as homosexual art.
I just want to know what bizarro universe this show takes place in where schools are increasing art funding, because it sure as shit isn't this universe.
The same one where a middle school in this, the year of Our Lord 2024, has a dedicated wood shop class. Seriously, I was in middle school in the late 90's and we didn't even have one of those.
@@Teelenth I was in middle school in the 2000's and we not only had one but it was also a requirement to take. It's likely somewhat regional
The show takes place in Commiefornia™
i had a woodshop in middle and high, and a metalshop in high aswell. im also from southern commiefornia so idk.
northern commiefornia native here; our art classroom had a neat kiln but also all of our acrylic paint was growing mold so
The thing I love most about the engayening of Mr Birchum is Ben Shapiro now faces an incredibly painful decision; either follow the free market, make Mr Birchum an explicitly queer show and rake in the big bucks, or stand his ground and go bankrupt in the process. Quite literally, he either has to go woke, or go broke. Fucking priceless.
If he goes woke, it is going to genuinely change the course of American history.
Their funding is very much behind the scenes which is kind of ironic that conservatives tend to have all these "they" conspiracies held as fundamental tenants of how Hollywood and the media work.
the world would shatter
I kind of hope he goes along with it just to show exactly what a sniveling little grifter he is to everyone
The fact that a lot of conservatives dislike the show isn't helping them 😂 They're plan 180'd
Not knowing the context nor the plot of this show, the idea that an ultra conservative group made the most unironically accurate representation of a closeted homosexual by complete accident whilst shining a light at the absurdity of their idea of masculinity is very funny to me.
It's really sad. They see miserable men and think "That's masculinity. That's what you should aspire to." As if the point of life is misery.
@@Frommerman It's really, really sad because it seems like the whole show is based on the delusion that their dad was the perfect man. I bet Corolla really misses his dad and this is the only way he can deal with it.
m.youtube.com/@Frommerman Thank you.
You have put the right's views on masculinity ,or what I think of their views on masculinity, into words far better than I ever could have. Thanks again.
Also to the men who ever read this: Life truthfully has no individual meaning. Your lifes purpose is not to be a ' provider' , who marrieS Only women, who is always miserable cause he has to do what he thinks will make his siblings, friends, grandpa, pa, and sons see him as more 'manly'
Each individual person gives their own lives their own meanings. Likewise, Each man must give his life its own meaning to himself.
Each man that youve seen that is old AND happy gave their lives the neaning that THEY wanted to have their life mean when they were young and they are still running with it. Thats why theyre still happy. They chose their own meaning to life and continued running with it. That's it.
@GuerillaSlop Patriarchy is bad for men, too.
@GuerillaSlop
I found it by clicking on your profile. Well said.
Repressed gay thoughts plus the conservative refusal to analyse their feelings lead to so much unintended gay text.
I'm sorry? I am genuinely blind to how Matrix is accidentally trans?
@@manfredrichtoften8848 both the directors of the matrox are trans women and the film is a trans allegory! i would look it up simce other people have talked about it way more eloquently than i could
I thought it was trans on purpose? Like how the red pill looks like estrogen n shit?
The directors of Matrix weren't eggs, it was always meant to be trans.
The Matrix is not accidentally trans though, the whole movie is a metaphor for transness
The gay scene being the best animated part of the show just tells me that that was the only time the animators were having fun
Most of the crew was queer so that explains it lol
@@cupio-stardustNo offense, but source?? It sounds like a funny article!
@@stonks3507its mentioned in the video if u pause to read the tweet made by one of the animators
@@stonks3507 source: they made it up
@@stonks3507it's in the video lol
My favorite part is when Mr. Birchum said "it's birchum time!" And proceeds to get Karponzi pregnant by holding hands.
😂❤ i cant hahaha
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❤𝓜𝓲𝓼𝓽𝓪𝓴𝓮𝓼 𝓲𝓷𝓽𝓸 𝓜𝓲𝓻𝓪𝓬𝓵𝓮𝓼 ❤
what if bonzi gregnant? what then snowflakes?
facts and logic
@@moffichu9150BAZINGA!
It's so ironic that the whole "I hate my wife" and "bros over hoes" sentiment within the conservative sphere keeps producing these queer ideas
There are plenty of people for whom "I hate my wife" and "bros before hoes" was never anything but repressed queerness to begin with.
Not that anyone's complaining, LOL
Yeah and see imo BOONDOCKS got that shit right cuz MacGruder is actually a great writer
Or maybe that’s the only lens queers can see anything through because their entire persona revolves around it.
@@TeamGreenBurrito Wheres your personality?
My favourite thing about Conservatives is when their media is so misogynistic it loops back around into being gay
Its great isnt it ? I call it the "Ancient Greece Phenomenon"
Literally the Romans vs the Greeks
Mr. Birchum is like this because back in his day, our Daddies taught us not to be ashamed of our dicks!
...'Specially since they're such good size and all...
I cannot believe the daily wire made a show about shipping ron swanson with vaush
OMG
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Fr fr.
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Creator: This character is straight
R34 Artists: Not if I have anything to say about it
Tale as old as time 😂
and I do, I'm gonna say the N word!
@@Drm3221 Literally the exact phrase I was gonna say
MR. SHAPIRO GET DOWN!
Death of the Author level: EXTREME
oh my god my fanfic is featured in this video wtf
omg no way
how does it feel to be famous!!!!
Congratulations!!
Nice channel image
@@ReFrostByte thank tou
There’s no bit. Strip away the poorly-written conservative propaganda and you’re left with an animated sitcom about a man who just…ya know…really loves ‘wood’. 😏
Would watch… 😳😏😈
@@iamsaw8swood watch
And "bears" apparently😏
"At school we were doing a project. You know the kind of thing. The Vikings, transport, woOD" (c) The Michael Rosen
strip away the poorly-written conservative propaganda and you no longer have a show
My favorite part about Mr. Birchum is that he's a Vietnam vet and even if he was like 18 and got drafted, he'd be pushing 80 at the time of the series. This is the level of care that went into the writing of a character that has been trying to get off the ground since like the early 90s. Karponzi clearly likes the silver foxes is what I'm getting at here.
The 'early 90's part if what explain it - he'd only have had to be in his 50's to have served in 'Nam in the 90's, so they did the maths then and simply never updated his lore.
@@trianglemoebiusAmerica left Vietnam in 1975 which saw Vietnam reunify under the Communist government, ending what we in the US call the “Vietnam War”, so that still doesn’t make sense, unless Mr. Birchum volunteered to join the People’s Liberation Army and fight against Vietnam under the flag of China in the year 1990 and/or 1991 (and I don’t get the feeling he would do that)
@@trianglemoebius You’re likely thinking of Desert Shield and Storm, as well as the following three decades of US involvement in the Middle East.
Maybe he somehow ended up in the Cambodian-Vietnamese War from 1978-1989.
@@madmoblin I would watch this.
Reminds me of that one guy (Crowder, I think) saying that if we were to allow people to be gay, no new children would be born - implying that he thinks all straight people are just closeted gay people
Omg 😮
"Surely no one is *naturally* straight, everyone just forces themselves to act straight because of social expectations! Am I right guys?"
And if you combine that with the mentality of "Everyone is like me" you get a rther interesting picture of Mr. Crowder
Doesn't he also do a suspicious amount of crossdressing videos mocking trans people?
It reminds me of a very passionate debate I once had with a classmate of mine over the issue of gender fluidity. He *insisted* that it was perfectly normal to feel like different genders at different times, and we all just use the identity markers of our sex assigned at birth, and that trans and gender fluid people need to stop making a spectacle of themselves.
They came out two years later.
Ironic gayness is how conservative hetero men entertain themselves.
Nah, it ain’t ironic. You can tell cause they seethe about gays when they aren’t being gay themselves.
Making gay jokes is funny, but they tell on themselves when they get super defensive about them being gay
Remember tho, ironic entertainment won't engender compassion - it will engender superiority.
*Gestures broadly at the USMC*
Just a little joke, but I swear everybody I know who went into. The Marines was either the gayest straight person ever or the straightest gay person ever.
@scratch7971 seriously. god forbid you _dont_ openly mock gay people infront of them... aftet they just mooned their friend on facetime whilst drunk. yeah , _suuuuure_ you're straight...
Conservative “hetero” men
Unironically the story of a conservative dad slowly developing feelings for his gay coworker and rethinking his ideas of masculinity would have been a wayyy better story than whatever the actual show is trying to push.
Just you wait, maybe we will have the plottwist of the century.
That's definitely a story I would love to see.
Didn't that sort of kind of happen in Euphoria, but in a 500× more f'ked up way??
I'd be down for that cartoon. Kind of like a more serialized, slow burn King of the Hill where the MC is more conservative and less likely to rethink his positions by the end of one episode. Sounds like it'd be great for streaming if any platform would be willing to greenlight more than 8 episodes a season. Only slight snag I see is that you'd need to establish early on the MC has endearing and redeeming qualities the audience wants to watch even before they start changing their minds. If he was just a bigoted conservative, I don't know if people would stick around for the shift since we all know and see bigoted conservatives and what they're like and we're sick of them. Maybe it could try to nail the tricky angle of sympathy for conservatives where it's recognized they truly believe they're well intentioned and that the culture was bs is a prison, of their own design yes, but one a lot of conservatives are slow to realize they can just leave (and in some cases, they can't just leave. Family, friends, work culture, wife, etc. can make rejecting the surrounding conformity tricky.)
Uhhhh we kinda had that with Moral Orel
As my boss once said, "there's something gay about a guy hating women"
Enter: Jotaro Kujo from JJBA
Even his own creator said that “he’s not interested in women” lmao
@@SMACKADOOS 😓.. stop.. hes not gay.. hes not straight either.
Hes a very hard ace guy that accidently had a daughther.
@@red-rr3isI think it’s pretty obvious that jotaros main sexuality was “I must kill Dio” and after he had fulfilled his sexual desire he was just swinging that thing to see if he could get the same reaction
@@taroumaru3869 exactly.
Your boss is very wise. Why would he hate women or his wife? Unless he prefers dudes, and only married to get their validation
To quote Matteo Lane:
"It's so hard to describe gay icons to straight people. They just don't get it. Like, 'Wait, Maleficent, Miss Piggy, and the Barefoot Contessa are all gay icons? [...] Why Maleficent?'
'Uh, she's got horns and she's a cxnt, I don't know."'
There is a stage in every queer afab person's life where they wanted to either be, or fxxk, Marvel's Loki.
@@sammyjones8279 Hah - or the original Norse deity.
Someone could ask "Why Loki?" And receive the same answer.
Tbf “petty bitch with good vibes” is a classic character archetype for a reason
Not a single trans person on this planet can explain why we love Blahaj. All we know is that we love him and that he is best shork.
The character reeks of the "have I mentioned I'm heterosexual today" trope. He's obviously closeted (and not really even THAT closeted).
the closet is made out of glass and shower curtains 😭
THISSSSSSSS
At this point the closet is just a square of tape on the floor. Scotch tape.
the closet is the circle spongebob drew in the sand to fend off sea bears
he literally has a mug that says "i love wood"
“So getting women is masculine but being with them is not” oof, well said
Guys, is it gay to like women?!
@@happytofu5According to Matt Walsh, it is!
@@happytofu5 nick Fuentes says so
@@happytofu5yeah super gay, but most people unfortunately don't realize that breathing is gay
What's manlier, than two men?
This show is, inadvertently, a perfect demonstration of how a rugged, manly conservative often belies a deeply, *deeply* closeted person, someone so lost in the closet they have no idea they're in one.
❌ Heterosexual
❌ Bisexual
❌ Homosexual
❌ Pansexual
❌ Asexual
✅ House of Leaves
The circumstances and the ideology play off of each other in a feedback loop. The generic conservative man is forced to spend their life with a woman they hate and have negative chemistry with, doing whatever's necessary to spend more time with men. He's only okay with this because he's predetermined (by religion, generational trauma, etc.) that this is normal and that everyone else must be wrong. He must not be gay because there's no room in his headcanon for that.
@@tropezandoAlright, this comment is fire.
This is exactly what I was thinking! They are so closeted they don't recognise what is in fact queerness and not Masculinity™
Fujoshis project harder than gays even
We need to acquire the rights to this show and make them gay in season 2
Lets just take over The Daily Wire
We ride at dawn
I will donate up to $2.00 toward that
Oh I would laugh so f*cking hard at the future where this show doesn't get a season 2 because of abysmal streaming numbers, Adult Swim buys it out for peanuts, and gives it a few more seasons where they take the much better ironic fans proposed idea of Birchum being a Ron Swanson type with a heart and willing to change his mind about a changing, more progressive world and running with it. That probably won't happen but I'd do a hell of a lot to see the alternate universe where it does. Maybe they could go all in on Birchum/Karponzi having something going on and use that as an in to have a respectful depiction and arc about consensual open relationships while also tackling the topic of older people realizing they're queer and what that means for their lives.
@@gregvs.theworld451 manifesting this timeline so hard rn
One of the funniest things to come out of this show for me is all the Daily Wire fans accusing them of "going woke" for just having a gay character.
Where is your profile picture from may I ask?
That's too funny!
Sounds about right 🤣
@@lucjanl1262 it's splatoon
If the writers behind this show were actually artists they'd lean into the queerness in a hypothetical season 2. You can still have Birchum be a conservative Ron Swanson type, but you could have him learn to be a more compassionate man through Karponzi. Likewise you could have Karponzi grow to be less insufferable and more aware of things like optics and bad faith actors. Have them learn from each other and grow, y'know?
But their politics demand that art bend the knee to the culture war.
Imagine if his wife shows up at the end of the season and calls him out on it he's just like "wait who are you again?"
That's the thing though, right? From their perspective, he's already arrived and everyone else needs to get there. There is little space for something like 'optics' and 'bad faith actors'.
If anything they’re going to go harder on the culture war claptrap given the negative response a lot of hardcore evangelicals and other super conservatives have had about the show being “too gay”.
@@tgs7515Assuming they don't cancel the whole thing for their abysmal viewership/subscriber base. Right-wing dark money only goes so far
Honestly I'd read a fanfiction writing a season 2 like that, sounds genuinely good honestly
My favorite tid bit about Adam Carolla is he had a show where they would go do repairs on peoples houses who had been screwed by bad repairmen, the show ended because they got sued for being bad repairmen themselves
Amazing
Mfs think they're Ron Swanson when they don't actually know how to fix anything
There was a similar show called Holmes on Homes and I always wondered about how helpful their repairs actually were.
That tracks.
@@Mozzylver1 MANY home renovation shows turned out horrifically, and several with years long legal battles
It only takes so long until a party obsessed with ancient Roman iconology just realize they’re staring at naked buff men.
"I'm a deeply closeted gay man"
"you're a gay man?"
"I'm not gay! I said deeply closeted! I'm as straight as an arrow!"
That Norm Macdonald joke just came to mind
I swear, if Mr. Birchum doesn’t have a dog house…
?? I am suddenly reminded of a moment in the film PECKER, where some guy dancing on a bar is suddenly confronted by his shocked mother... something like "Mom, I'M not gay, gay guys blow ME!". I might be a little off, but it was something like that. Or a sketch long ago on Second City TV (?) where a drunk sports fan is being strenuously proposition by a gay man. The drunk says something like "But I'm not gay, eh?", and his new friend reassures him "Oh, no, no... that's MY job!", and they stagger off arm in arm. I think both of these are relevant here, but I've had a quiet life and can't really judge. To some extent I want to watch this show because I'm a cranky old shop teacher, and also because I live in a college town "where everyone has their own diet, gender and religion", and sometimes it's funny and annoying as it stands! Surrounded as I am by artists, writers, musicians and hopeless alcoholics... it does sometimes seem like I'm living in a cartoon! This cartoon we're seeing glimpses of... it might not be trying that hard. None of this is to say that it's any good! I THINK with little evidence that they might show us something that's in plain sight that we don't see. In my own life I never noticed that white people were funny until I saw a few episodes of Living Color, and a generation later on RUclips the Chen Brothers doing little sketches where one brother puts on a blonde wig and does the part of typical white guy (in the context of cooking or eating in a restaurant mostly), and it's really on the nose! I DO and SAY a lot of the white guy stuff that they are laughing about! I DO have five or six whisks to mix stuff instead of just a pair of chopsticks. GOING FORWARD if I'm in STEM Instruction environment, (a SHOP I want to say, but no... MakerSpace? Yeah, it's like that every day) and everyone starts laughing, now I'll know why!
Based on the conservative response to The Boys, I think that crowd prefers hating on leftist shows over watching shows actually meant for them
You're not wrong. At least on an individual basis, some articles and coverage noted people saying that it ['triggering the libs'] wasn't fun if [their targets] weren't responding and getting mad. That is, they're more interested in the feeling of winning and the adrenaline of hating/getting a reaction from the other than engaging and enjoying with their own politics and beliefs.
The fact that artists are usually more to the left than general audiences doesn’t help them
@@dieucondorimperial2509 I think there's also an aspect where art, for the right, must have a practical tangible purpose in the same way that 'hard work' like Birchum's woodworking is a practical skill and outcome. Art as experience, art as creation, art as expression, art as exploration isn't necessarily acceptable. Thus much of their art is far more explicitly propaganda - extolling their own views as well as demonizing their current targets - over saying something broader or attempting to carry a conversation of persuasion. I doubt we would really ever see a conservative show that was a true slice of life or character journey in the same vein as, say, Steven Universe. If we did, it would likely be co-opted from something else such as American History X.
@@dieucondorimperial2509
Building off of the previous comment, art’s freedom of expression often clashes with conservative’s ideal of conformity. Conservatives art has the priority of preserving/ idealizing the status quo which in turn restricts what can actually be made.
@@J-manli I think there is good Conservatives art all Christian art was about Love of God and Tradition
"Gender is performed, but - accidentially - as a farce." banger line
I wish I were the manager of DailyWire's twitter account for 5 minutes, so I could retweet as much of those fan-arts as possible.
There are courses online that could make that dream come true, but they all require you to pay in monero 😂
the monkeys paw curls, you are now the dailywire spokesperson, with all their relationships and baggage, both financial and political
You can do anything in this world
"I won't fall for these temptations" or something
In the words of Ben Palmer, "You can be anything on the internet"
ruclips.net/video/movUic7ifcE/видео.htmlsi=hEqCok3FOQ19bPCS
Looking back on Birchum's and Karponzi's dynamic throughout the show, it is indistinguishable from that of countless mid-2000s romcoms with hetero couples so it really doesn't surprise me that this was the result.
The ugly truth about how to lose 27 dresses in ten days (Lumber Daddy Version)
In fairness, I can't remember the last time I saw a heterosexual romance in western media that actually felt romantic. It's always just "There is a man and a woman, so obviously they bang". Americans tend to end up putting more romantic subtext into relationships they're trying to depict as friendships or rivalries than they do into relationships they're trying to depict as romantic, because "and then they had sex" is the only thing you need to do to show the nature of a romantic relationship.
@@yurisei6732FINALLY someone who share my thought on this 😭
I saw a comment on another video that sums it up:
“Nothing says conservative, Christian values like a man who loves wood and avoiding his wife and being around big hard wood and being in the navy with his fellow seamen where he ignores his wife and thinks about wood and sometimes he tells a bunch of little kids to come round to his house and touch his wood and not tell their parents about getting their hands on his tools and… they *really* didn’t put any thought into how any of this would sound, did they?”
how any of this WOOD sound ahahahahagag
How else are you supposed to interpret an anti-woke conservative if not as a deeply closeted man?
Straight, but hateful do his faith.
They're in the *armored* closet.
@@samtinkle9076 stuck in an inverted iron maiden
They might as well be straight, the thing is, they are fed and perpetuate an impossible, incoherent idea of manliness. For one it leaves them frustrated as they fail to live up to it, while it also stands in the way of them exploring why they feel that way. One way or the other, they are certainly traped in some kind of closet.
@@danaa- A waterboarded one to be sure.
He do love wood though. It says it right on his mugs. God damn, the fact they are making gay fanart is fucking amazing. Media is truly out of the hands of the author and in the audiences now.
IDK how they didnt catch this, but wood is slang for p*nis in some cultures, so it can be interpreted as "I love p*nis" for the creators of the show who hate gay & trans, this is very ironic!
I hope the Daily Wire heads realize that absolutely no one respects them as creatives. Given how many of them are Hollywood failures I doubt it’s a new experience
That's the thing.
If this is all meant to be straight, why all the queer stuff?
@@antediluvianatheist5262 Daily wire are controlled opposition, they rarely talk about the actual problems and instead focus on culture war drivel that just divides the country even more
Not really, the audience didn't create anything or anything new through fanfiction.
Also I think the irony here of conservatives being entirely unable to stand a piece of media simply for having a gay character at all, while leftists are finding a level of enjoyment in this conservative main character that is intended to be against them really shows some fundamental difference in the perspectives and attitudes of left and right wing people.
They say we can't take a joke, while they can't even stand their own jokes
Dude you’re so fucking right bro!!
Bro why does birchum look like the guy from hello neighbour
He’s the neighbor
It's the long awaited prequel, before he goes insane and tries to hide his secret
he looks like the neighbor mixed with marvin sml
Oh fuck he does 😂
Probably because you're young and have no life expereence?
Daily Wire: _"The GOP is a big tent party! We don't hate gays!"_
Audience: *_"No, we definitely do."_*
Okay woke liberal, if I'm homophobic then literally why the fuck is Hazbin Hotel my favorite show?
@@SaberSin-mu4ktreeks of “if I’m an atheist then why do I look up to role models who’re religious?”
But, obviously, of different magnitudes.
Yeah, this show and the DW seem to be saying "we are ok with minorities as long as they don't accuse us or financial structures of taking away their rights," but the actual people who follow the DW tend to be far more racist and homophobic.
@@argumentator08 what?
A bunch of bad writers who were rejected by the actual media industry, because they are such bad writers, writing a show to make fun about gay people and because they are so bad at writing it, they accidentally make the main character a closeted gay person is just absolutely hilarious
A man (cough bear cough) in his probably late 40's or 50's thats so comically anti-left and hypermasculine who does everything he can to get on the nerves of a more younger openly liberal man and also does WOODWORKING? That sounds like something id write for a 200k word slowburn old men yaoi fanfic goddamn
Don't we all know the struggle of fighting our gay urges, my fellow straights?
As a profoundly straight man I find this attitude hilarious.
I don’t think straight people do this and fight gay urges guys, I think you’re just queer 💀
Reminds me of a post i saw once "if homosexuality isn't contagious, why do i always get homosexual thoughs when my friend takes his shirt off"
@@ythegameritacheckmate, liberals
Steven Crowder unironically said this 😭
A part of me is always delighted by the inadvertent homoeroticism of media that's trying too hard to be homophobic.
I think this is because the western image of masculinity is already inherently homoerotic, and that only escapes our notice because we're not commonly talking about homosexuality. Talking about homosexuality inevitably causes you to start thinking about the homoeroticism of masculinity. Mr Birchum doesn't have any more homoeroticism than anything that depicts men catering to the male gaze, it just makes you notice it more.
@@yurisei6732
There's a reason "male gaze" sounds the same as "male gays"
@@morbidsearch coincidence? i think not!
You should read Ben's novels, then.
this happens a lot in anime, naruto is a good example of this where the two main male leads have a better relationship with each other than their female love interests who they later marry!
It’s the Rob Liefeld problem. When everyone is theoretically as straight as possible, the most heightened version of their gender as possible, no one is. It all becomes camp. Rob Liefeld was cursed to never make a fictional straight man and so was Bircham.
I mean, a lot conservative men don’t “believe” in the female orgasm…. So yeah, this checks out
"well I'VE never seen one!" 🤦♀️😂
"i've had sex with many women, and none of them had orgasms, i'm not the problem, the whole gender is broken"
I once had a conservative relative, who, might i say has been married and divorced 3 times say that only men can come and i was honest to god not trying to laugh because now ik why he got divorced sm
These random people on the internet are giving the show more subtext than the actual writers.
Our show now
The five night at freddy's technique
@@genericname2747 Why do I hear the National Anthem of the U.S.S.R.?
not the first time someone wanted to make a character Ultra masculine and accidently made them super gay. It's almost as if masculinity and masculine expression is very popular in gay culture.
Say it louder for the people in the back!
HIS MUG LITERALLY SAYS "I LOVE WOOD"
He likes his wood like he likes his coffee.
@@boiling_snow_water_😳
What's funny is that it's clearly meant to be a homophobic joke, like "oh, see, he's saying he likes a euphemism for dicks, but he's just saying it ironically because he's not really a (slur slur slur)" without realizing that just reinforces the idea of Birchum as a closeted gay man.
😳
i love wood
Broke: Birchonzi shipping.
Woke: Chorm shipping.
HELP- Isn’t Chaz a teenager though???
Chorm is my favorite pokemon
@@LakeofCrystalclan birchum + norm
Chorm is my favorite Fire Emblem character
@@LakeofCrystalclan No no, Charlie and Norm.
The ultimate "We shipped at as a joke by now we shipping it for real" exemple
Shipping it for real was the joke
It's amazing how much Mr. Birchum failed at what it was meant to achieve. On one had you got its right-wing target audience rejecting the show for not being outwardly bigoted enough, and on the other you got the left-wing audience the show tried so hard to offend turning its characters into queer icons out of sheer spite.
He looks like my platonic vision of a closeted gay man. I don't need spite.
@@nerag7459 Fair enough. It's VERY easy to read as a closeted gay man hiding under a fragile idea of masculinity, which makes this whole thing even funnier.
That’s the amazing part. They successfully appealed to those it was supposed to anger. There’s genuinely no spite behind the yaoi, they are enjoying themselves
100% not out of spite 😆 Perhaps it’s worse bc of it,
It failed beautifully.
The way I found out this show was a video of somebody ranking Mr Birchum yaoi fanart, and I was so disappointed when I found out what it actually was...
Queen Coke Francis?
@@CiCodiCadno Haha yep!
Good.
@@SaberSin-mu4ktjood 🤓
7:40 - Now, I'm not saying this guy is definitely a closeted Gay Republican, I'm just saying that if I were asked to draw the most obvious closeted Gay Republican, this is exactly how the character would look.
Daily Wire- “We’re gonna make this super anti-woke, offensive cartoon. That’ll rile those libs up!”
The rest of the internet- “And so you’ve crafted the tools of your own destruction”
But the daily wire is ironically so cucked by political correctness to get past censors that they can't actually be offensive. It's really funny
Peak moment
It's not about the actual content, it's just that they exist, is there any actual viewership numbers for any of their stuff? They just need to show that they're making something to grift their audience's and investors' money.
Is it resonating with its demographic is it messaging conveyed who cares and none of these things go past the season anyways, except for my boy Bendejo, because it's his tree fort
They've triggered our trap card
oh they riled us up.....just not in the way they wanted 🤣
Right wing influencer to power bottom pipeline
it’s less of a pipeline and more of a venn diagram really
@@thatoneguy9582Nono, pipeline meant sex.
Same as the nazi incel to trans woman pipeline
Some elements I caught while watching as well:
- The schools mascot is the "rough riders" okay come on now
- Before watching the burly men outside as a boy, he was watching a show about space rockets (very common phallus joke on literally any TV show ever)
- The character was partially based on Nick Offerman's performance as Ron Swanson and Offerman himself is a noted progressive who supported Elizabeth Warren in the 2020 democratic primary. Offerman is also a supporter of LGBT rights and recently played a gay man in the Last of Us TV adaptation
- Another background element is the "save the dolphins" sticky note, dolphins are notably yet another famously gay animal when it comes to TV writers' perception of them at least.
- His thermos is made by "staley", clearly an attempt at parodying the Stanley brand which has a large following of predominantly straight women and queer men
- Ain't no way the man's name is also Dick, they're not even trying to hide it
- There's also an inherent homo-eroticism about woodwork, sort of like there is with pottery. Drilling some wood until the shrapnel comes off? Was it possible to give him an even more gay job?
According to my mom who was alive when this show was written (the 90s) Stanley used to be a masculine man construction worker brand. They just didn't bother to update their show that didn't go live for 30 years
@@jamiejam9976 interesting, though given how many "culture war" specific talking points do get brought up in the show... like clearly they did re-write or update certain elements prior to releasing it but didn't bother to look up details like this even though the Stanley hype has been one of the most annoyingly persistent online trends for like a year now? not being aware of that but claiming to do any kind of cultural analysis with your show is wilder than doing 30-years-ago analysis to begin with...
I think the biggest sin of this show is that there is a decent premise hidden inside, but by nature of who made it, it can never achieve that potential. A show about a conservative shop teacher in a failing marriage learning to be a better person because he falls in love with the new openly queer teacher is a fantastic premise. Instead they made the worst possible King of the Hill knockoff. Proof positive that conservatives cannot succeed in the creative arts.
There's even a functional premise if you're insistent on telling a story that adheres to conservative beliefs - a story focused on Mr Birchum's mancrush moving to this small town from a city and learning that following Birchum's way of life is the solution to his many problems. Or a story from the perspective of one of the children, who is being bullied and is taught by Birchum how to be strong and independent. These are still clearly very conservative premises, but they would have the structure of a real story about character development. But conservatives can't have that, because the stories they tell need to be about people who are already perfect conservatives going around pointlessly criticising everyone else.
Conservatives would tell a story about Jesus and make Jesus the protagonist.
Yeah, because if this was written by someone not pushing a agenda, we could have had king of the hill 2.0
He learns he likes something that's not totally and completely masculine, like baking or cooking or gardening. He learns that people he disagrees with he can just live and let live. He becomes actually good friends with the gay teacher, learns to be a better husband and father and his son actually makes some money by being a streamer and gets a girlfriend.
We can dream can't we
Like it would be great if they just made fun of both political sides and had some depth and actually make good jokes, but I don’t think we will ever get it. Instead of clever jokes we get people making fun of pronouns over and over again. Like that gets old after a long time, it becomes boring, not good comedy.
@@yurisei6732 The worst thing is that it wouldn't even be Bible-accurate or even Bible-adjacent Jesus either, but it would instead be the Reagonomics Jesus of the Evangelicals who hates the poor and loves the rich and is actively malicious to anyone who doesn't already agree with him.
Damn, this comment makes me want to make that premise actually happen and get into writing lol
It would never happen, but it would be so awesome if the show was actually building towards Birchum coming out.
Imagine it: a show that presents itself as conservative horseshit, little by little tears away at those ideas. birchum starts to learn about the flaws in his ideology, starts to question his queer tendencies, and starts opening up to new ideas.
would be an incredible arc. too good for a show like this.
If it was made by mysterious no name nobodies I'd maybe even believe it.
Pull a Spec Ops: The Line on us, just imagine...
@@youtubeuniversity3638"Do you feel like a heterosexual yet?"
@@Qobp"When you came here, there were two straight men..."
@@Montesama314"It takes a strong man to deny what's right behind him, and if the truth is undeniable... you create your own."
@@Qobp I spat my coffee god damnit
bros mug says “I ❤️ Wood” yeah he's a bear.
I think it's so funny when someone make a show supposedly hating on the LGBTQ community, and then the LGBTQ community takes it and makes it queer. It's extra funny if some ship art is in the first batch of Google images when you Google a character from the show. 🌈
I feel like another aspect to the response is probably that, while conservatives generally aren't in touch with actual queer culture and are so caught up in heteronormativity that they often dont realize when something looks queer, queer people are incredibly used to looking for queer coding. Very often queer people grow up without media to represent them, and so you just get used to looking for characters that could be interpreted as queer and claiming them because you don't have anything else.
They wrote what they imagine to be a clear and uncontroversially masculine character. They would consider that totally mutually exclusive woth queerness. Mr birchum could easily be a straightforwardly straight man. He could just as easily be a repressed bear. The fact that those realities look exactly the same is precisely the kind of nuance that the writers aren't capable of noticing, so things like this will keep happening.
thank you for curing my artist block and inspiring to create birchonzi fanart
That misdirect wouldn't have gotten me if the actual show's animation quality wasn't genuinely amateur enough to pass as a fan project haha
Same!! I was like "huh guess anyone with flash can recreate this style then"
The animation was actually outsourced to a studio in I believe Spain? They were given barely any budget which is why they had to reuse a lot of assets and animate on fours in some scenes. Also a lot of the people on the team were queer themselves and hated having to work on it. Basically, don't blame the animators who were forced to make this slop to pay rent, blame the wealthy people at the DW for being cheap and then lying about it claiming the show is "100% made in America"
@@kevinandorsusie Based Spanish animators build gay subtext into stupid homophobic show?
Frankly the scene is more fluidly animated than the rest of the show so I thought it was an animator flexing on them
@@Sootielove LMAO YEAH ME TOO
Honestly considering the post about most of the animation crew being queer… it would not surprise me if they put extra effort in that scene for a reason.
Conservatives: hah! whiny liberal queer people are gonna be so mad when they see this show we made to make fun of them
queer people: he's such a gay icon
Conservatives: 😤🤬🤬🤬
It’s so crazy how they frame masculinity as like this horrible thing, but the best guys in the show are the ones that actually are kind and helpful: Birchum’s son, the former criminal, etc
No it isn't.
Being the one who is supposed to protect others, bare burdens, is noble.
But it is also harsh demanding .
@@Youcancallmeishmaellprotecting and being helpful are two different things. Ideally being a decent human being is helpful rather than protecting people have to be hurt to learn and grow and helping them grow at their own pace is the ideal form of masculinity as you protect them from recession into less smarter times while helping them grow. Being just protective is going to lead to a gap between you and that person
@@TristenKnibb-hx4xj
I told you that there was a burden.
@@Youcancallmeishmaell that isn’t a burden. That’s like the literal bare minimum for caring about someone? If you think of that as a burden i don’t think you care about them😭☠️
@TristenKnibb-hx4xj
To protect othets,to be someone who is responsible and relied upon.
You have to deny parts of yourself.
Mr. Birchum has a 'I ❤ wood' mug, which is hella gay.
Case closed
With a suspiciously shaped ax underneath it
I spat my milk out all over my monitor when I heard "I wanna draw Mr Birchum pregnant"
He failed as a father but i bet he would've been such a great mother 💔
I just hope the DW and all it's ghouls hate how the only "fans" of their horrible show are making the characters "woke"
Bro I've heard there are people boycotting the show because it has a gay character
@@genericname2747 hell yeah, those people are like background characters
@@genericname2747no but that makes it even better- their target audience refuses to watch it, and so their only fans are making yaoi art of it
@@jadegreenleaf781 their "Onlyfans" are making yaoi art of it
The best part of this entire thing is that karponzi is literally a vaush reference so now there is more art of vaush being mpreg and its not just destiny fans that make the art
Dude Vaush must love this indirect attention
@@nathanielmathews2617 he hasn’t even addressed it lmao. I imagine the next okbuddyvowsh segment will be full of it though
Unfortunately, mpreg!Vaush is non-canon. We all know Vaush's sexual preference is wanting to be the horse.
Anatomy of gay teacher:
-Glasses
-Hoodie
-Man Bun
-Child GF
I thought he was just supposed to be a generic hipster (thick glasses, beard, manbun).
Recall that Birchum served in the Navy.
I need say no more.
It all makes sense, he spent so much time around sea men of course.
"Masculinity is a slippery thing at the best of times" talk about innuendo am I right
Bend over to pick it up then... ;)
Mr. Birchum is just "What if we took Archie Bunker, put him in a Ron Swanson suit, and let ChatGPT handle the plotting?"
Archie Bunker was not right wing media. He was more a straw man to show how ridiculous the views are but also written with depth to show where those views come from. In the end, he learned to embrace the new and move, begrudgingly with the times.
Maybe worth a video essay!
@@ehfoss The RUclips channel Jose (accent on the e, profile pic is a blue bird) does longform sitcom retrospectives and he has one about All in the Family if you wanted to check it out. They do tend to be long, so if hour+ videos aren't your thing, understandable, but they are great listens for doing another task like gaming or cleaning.
He doesn’t even look like Archie. You’d get the new norm. (Provided you remove the Ron Swanson part.)
@RealZerenaFan Yeah, that's why I said "Put him in a Ron Swanson suit." I think reading stuff before commenting is important.
@@gregvs.theworld451 Thanks, will check it out.
I think most people see that a lot of gay men are quite feminine and assume that straight is the masculine option. I'd argue being gay has always been more masculine, there's literally twice as many men involved, and it's because of this that a lot of gay men are feminine in other ways to balance out the homosexually. Masc gays are therefore the most manly people in existence so it makes sense that a character made to be as masculine as possible would read as gay.
Simultaneously being effeminate is gay culture but the second people call you emasculate you immediately start pointing out masculine gays to save face.
Honestly if y'all were as half as masculine as you wished you were, people would respect you a lot more.
@@SaberSin-mu4ktbecause both masculine and feminine gay people can exist? Heck multiple types of people exist, you can have a personality without having to stick strictly to being masc or fem
You don’t know that many gay men. Many are masculine or a mixture of feminine and masculine. Plus it’s crazy how y’all forget about bisexual men. Not very open minded
imagine this, what if Ben Shapiro or Brett Cooper made a video reacting to the fanarts and fanfics of Mr.Birchum, imagine the look on their faces.
…I don’t think we’d ever be able to see Ben Shapiro and Brett Cooper together in the same room…
*face
@@SarastistheSerpent If we did they’d probably make out behind the scenes /j
God, this is fascinating. I was planning a video called "Being Conservative Is Narratively Unsatisfying" but I don't really feel comfortable being that overtly political, especially with a title that preachy and snobby, but it's amazing how Mr. Birchum completely highlights everything I wanted to mention. It's so bizarre how they seem to just hate everything and everyone and are openly miserable, and then expect you to hear that and go "Come be miserable with me!" Why do I have to hate my wife? Why do I have to have sex with a bunch of women in order to be a man, but then just pretend that never happened so my wife that I hate won't get mad at me? Why do I have to do "manly" activities? Why can't I enjoy my own hobbies? I could go on, but I'd just be repeating your points. It's so bizarre how they somehow create strawmen to shadow box and then lose to themselves. You can absolutely criticize our current political climate, but you have to be actually smart. You can do a good story about how people are too sensitive these days, but you have to actually SAY something that isn't just "i can't be offensive anymore." Either way, great video.
Dont worry, I'll answer your questions as a conservative:
U don't
U dont
U don't
U don't
Your video would be simply a massive strawman
Crazy how you accuse them of strawman arguments but you yourself is doing the biggest strawman argument ever heard in mankind
that video title sounds badass tho
@@SpiderMan23000 calling something a strawman argument for calling out strawmaning is strawmaning
@@verdurite and? You a strawman too because you called out my strawmanning because he called out strawmanning
I never got why the characters who are meant to be lgbtq and being mocked by the show... always seem like the more educated and well written people.
I like to think that deep down, the people making this know how hateful and wrong they are.
Unironically this would be a fire show if season 2 was about Birchum accepting queer identity even despite the fact that its different from what he knew
Yes but growth isn't allowed to happen in the current conservative landscape as it means you concede a point and you were WRONG. Which can't be because you picked the correct side or something and correctness is inherent to the "good"
Worst part of this is how Birchum’s belt buckle has zero consistency from shot to shot.
😮
The funniest thing to me about this is the fact thay they've been trying to get this show off the ground over two to three decades. It's like carrying a flag up Everest and a bird snatches it away right before you reach the summit.
"Culture war stuff is cringe when the left does it, so let's do it back at them" is the most lame thing ever.
Also Culture War is a right wing concept, it always was. The Left isn't doing it per say, not in the way the Right says it is.
So the timeline is roughly, the right does culture war, the right accuses the left of culture war, the right says ok we need to respond to this attack with culture war. But it's just them all way way down politicizing everything, even cheap beer.
"the ideas and assumptions underpinning this season of TV fit together so pooly that they practically beg the viewer to deconstruct them." really well put!
How can they be so tone deaf to make a subby ginger and a bear coworkers, and think the internet wouldn't "woke"ify them💀
Is this the only adult animated show gayer than Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss 😂
Yes
Adult yes, animated show no
Actually thinking about it Harley Quinn might rank similarly to Mr Birchum
I WAS DRINKING WATER.
And just like both of those, this show was made by transphobes
@@Cooomyeah that one is just an overtly lesbian lead couple, hard to be gayer than that
Finally some gay bear representation.
The daily wire failed to anticipate the lefts ability to draw characters pregnant
Cmon. Let's just face facts that all of DW is performance art. Shapiro is a nasal sounding, prototypical closeted gay man. Walsh is an updated take on Archie Bunker with a little less subtlety and misplaced anger issues. These guys know that they are taking the piss out of their audience right to the bank.
Its farcical.
ben isn't closeted, once he said "As a gay man, I have been reliably informed he cannot opinion on this, and you should have told him to shut up" 💀
This is the correct observation.
IDK if shapiro's gay. He just gives that energy because he's a theater kid from california, holding himself up to the standard of a "macho man" while failing miserably so obviously.
Archie Bunker was far more of a man than those two homosexuals are - - it's a shame, cause Archie is a good guy with fair prejudice, but he still knows to put his family first and stil loves his family (and even Meathead) despite all their disagreements.
Please don't compare Archie Bunker to Mr. "Women are more fertile at 16" 🤢
I used to be a fan of Adam back when I was 14 and he was on Loveline. From what I remember about him, he's not what he would probably see as aggressively homophobic, but he's still homophobic enough to think that just referencing homosexuality is in itself a joke. It's definitely something he always seemed inordinately fascinated with while also acting like gay people are just plain silly. Honestly, sometimes it seems like the people who most insist upon "manliness" tend to be more preoccupied with thinking about gay sex than openly gay people are.
Those people are gay/bi and they think EVERYONE has those feelings, but only the "godless queers" CHOOSE to follow those feelings. Its pretty sad tbh, but I dont feel much sympathy when they turn that cognitive dissonance and ignorance into hate and evil action against LGBTQ+ people/causes.
I swear the "I love wood" mug is a joke between the animators that the writers don't get
actually watched the video. I can safely say it's confirmed
I don't think I've seen a writing misfire this bad since that time one of the Sonic comic writers tried to do a storyline based around a WW2 allegory.
They wanted a super-edgy, hyper-offensive show that would "make all the snowflakes cry".
What they made is an inoffensive wet fart that accidentally makes its main character appear to be a deeply closeted gay man.
“Inoffensive wet fart”
I’m writing that down
14:28 it’s the last time you’re doing WHAT to mr. Birchum?
It may be the last time you’re touching Birchum, but Mr. Karponzi on the other hand…
Mr. B is gonna be heartbroken when he finds out! 😭
"I'm not saying the shoe fits, but I am saying there isn't not a shoe" is going into my vocabulary of phrases *immediately* that is gold
The problem with the concept of the show is that the time when "men were real men"... never truly existed, it's a cultural myth used to shame. Now it's being used again but backfires as the lessons they try to hammer into their audience knows better. Toxic masculinity is always toxic because it's hiding something... just like the "I love wood" mug. They inadvertently made a character with resonance dissonance to their true emotions.
The time when everything was right is always about 30 years ago according to the nostalgia cycle
Well... That wasn't on my bingo card for today.
say what you will about my channel but I'll make a video essay about goddamn _anything_
@@PillarofGarbage And I'm here for it!
It's honestly kind of funny how a conservative show managed to be more queer then Heartstopper. It has major gay characters, a major character who uses neopronouns (They are there to be made fun of, but they're major characters), and a main character that, if this show was made by anyone else, I would expect to have the relatable plotline of 'Super conservative teacher realizes he's gay with the help of a new teacher at his school'.