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My first time watching this movie long ago, I was really down on the father for his harsh treatment of his son….it took years for me to realize the father was the one who did NOT abandon him, but did what was necessary to prepare his son for the world in which he would need to survive .
@@dnish6673 - All depends. Like the ladies commented: that's not fair - of how Ray King treated Maeybeth Medina (played by J.K Simmons and Cynthia Addai-Robinson). But... welcome to the world of not just a modern corporations, but someting like a public sector too (especially if you are a contractor). Yeah, I can see that happening without any issues whatsoever. As for kids screwed up? They were already "screwed up" (sorry for that word) and didn't have a normal childhood, being in 10+ schools, in several years, because of their father, who he was. And one of them was autistic since the beginning. The story is much more complex than just saying "screw up", as there is a lot of moving parts, but you probaby missing that approach, including autistic part. Screw up? No. As painfull as it is, he most likely knew what was going on with one of his son, and being who he was (including his background), he was trying to prepare him (both of his sons in fact), of reality of living the life. As brutal as it may sounds (because at the end, yeah - the life is brutal, and not everybody can cope with it), sometimes it is the only way to go. Note: I've been working in various places in US (NY, LA, Alaska, Hawaii), UK (London mostly but a lot of corpos: Morgan Stanley, Bank of England, BDO, or even something like TFL, Centrica, NHS (hello St.Thomas Hospital close to Waterloo station) or University College London and more), Japan (Tokyo, Kyoto), most countries in EU (including northern ones, pretty much most of them), Hong Kong (4-5 times there), Australia... and few others. And yeah, the treatment of Medina is not unusual, in fact it is a common aspect of high level jobs. Some people may say - some of them. No. In some cases, it is actually quite comon of how top level management can treat you in this way (not exactly blackmail, but put a preasure: do it, or you will be gone). Unfair? Sure. But that is exactly the reality of a lot of jobs is. Edit: grammar/spelling
The father did his job to teach his boys to be self sufficient and not be taken advantage of.. Like any child, once they grow up to be adults, they make choices for themselves and so where they end up is a result of that.
Military Intelligence has studied the P.T.S.D or previously called shell shock, they discovered that in usually comes on after service when life slows down and becomes relatively calm. Some that chose to go back into combat saw symptoms disappear because the constant stress and mental alertness and stimulation of combat strengthens the coping mechanisms needed to overcome them. This Col. Army Intel dad used this knowledge to fortify his son so he could function and protect himself in the world after he was gone.
One thing about those brothers, they understood what their father was tryna doo. They were trained to be mentality and physically strong and capable of overcoming whatever challenge they faced. They both loved em. Best thing that ever happened to them was the mum leaving. She wasnt fit
Of course a woman would never understand mens perspective. They were softly nurtured from infancy to well into their adulthood. Like Bill Burr mentioned, maybe not all their issues are solved, but at least the world cares about them.
The guys on the green beret channel noted that the accountant is trying to keep a low profile, and one way to do that is to get in your garage and close the door as fast as possible, so someone tailing you can't figure out which house you went to. So while he would prefer to park straight, this way he maintains his cover and incidentally avoids the minigun.
18:00 Notice how in this scene his speech is more natural, he makes eye contact with Dana, and he is much more animated. For me (on the spectrum) this is one of the best depictions of an autistic person when they are talking with someone who shares their specific interests. Contrast this scene with their awkward lunch conversation; it’s a great portrayal
About his father. On a rewatch I can see what the father did although controversial was good for his son. From the first scene his mother complained and called "Christian" a problem and just wanted him gone then abandon them all. The father truly cared about his son and didn't want to farm him out to a neuroscience institute. His question was the key to the whole movie when the father asked "doctor in your opinion can our son lead a normal life?" When the answer was clearly "no" the father knew he had to prepare his son for an abnormal life and he had to prepare Braxton to always have "Christian's" back so "Christian" wouldn't become a victim. This is also displayed through the girl from the beginning who in contrast to christian despite getting all the help she could possibly get ended up still stuck in the institute, got bad enough that she stopped talking, and kept obsessing over small things like one tiny wrinkle on her bed sheets. However assisting "Christian" gives her purpose and hope and they give hope for people who get treatment at the institute. This was all perfectly stated in the last thing the doctor said "If we let the world set their expectations they will start low and stay there" and "maybe your son is capable of much more than we know." Not at all saying what the father did is the best solution for all people with neurodevelopment disorders but it was probably the best option for his sons.
I always liked this movie, and I think it has consistently been underrated. Check out an Anna Kendrick movie with Sam Rockwell called "Mr. Right" if you can. It's a really funny comedy with dark overtones.
Anorher TWO who didn't realise The Autistic Girl at the end is the Female Computer voice working with Affleck throughout movie! P.S The Pollock Painting is now worth between $110M - $140M.👍🙏
I dont think its a matter of not understanding when presented with the information, but instead, I feel like reactors, especially those who are "Duo" based, are simply going to just end up always missing certain "realization" scenes in movies, due to the nature of how movie reactions are done. When people like us watch movies, we arent constantly having short little discussions about the scenes as we watch them, but become invested and higher focused. You have to imagine its just plain old distraction that results in many reactors always missing key bits in movies. At least thats how I see it...
He's not trying to be rude or blunt. It takes a lot of work for him to parse facial expressions and body language so unless he deems it to be absolutely necessary (like if he likes you) then he doesn't bother. This is just the character's normal form of interpersonal interaction. "Resting rude" if you will.
I have aspergers myself. The father did the right thing helping coping with his problems and building up his strengths. The problem is you never get the autism out of your system, which wouldnt be a prpblem if people understand us better. Never happens. Not my parents or brother tried to understand and accept it. They are still hoping me getting" normal". I explained to them that i had a black bubble around me i couldnt watch trough. Agter years of training i can watch out and react, also understand and have fun in communication. But the bubble yet transparent will always be there. So i still can not fully connect, no feeling connections, just interest. Not knowing which is better me in black bubble not caring or in transparent bubble caring but not feeling. Hate it. And it will never change. Would be nice if family at least understands or gives a try in it. So if you have someone on the spectrum watch good doctor, temple grandin or sherlock with cumberbatch made me understand to work withyself. Just thinking in pictures, had years of psychologist telling me i am mental not autistic. Still not enough professionals in germany.
7:09 One of the things I love about this film is how they show that standard mental health treatment IS NOT ALWAYS the best option. You rarely get individually tailored care. Largely thanks to insurance companies, the "this treatment works for most" gets turned into "this is the only treatment for everyone." Another point: The goal of mental health care IS NOT (or at least should not be) to make you like everyone else. The goal is to get you to a place where you are able to function in society without debilitating distress. In this case, I'd say "mission accomplished". He may have difficulty with unfinished projects, but they don't leave him in a complete meltdown.
Not sure if someone already answered this, but whole rolling a rod on the leg thing is something martial artists sometimes do in order to harden the shins against stress and impact, IIRC.
That Is also a theory why John Wick is so good in what he does. Because he has a form of autism he is so laser focused and precise. Which kind of makes sense, John is also socially "akward", does not speak much, shows very little emotion (or not able to). Able to focus on the tiniest detail and the need to finish what he starts, no matter how long it takes.
it's also funny to note that amongst the elite of the military, most of them are hyper focused individuals who give 110% to every task in front of them, I would assume most of them have varying degrees of OCD, ADHD or Autism
It's so curious to see Abby criticizing the father's desire for his son not to be protected from the world and for society to adapt to the boy's needs. All the father wanted was to prepare his son mentally and physically to face real life. Just do some research and ask: would you like your child to be raised to be strong and face difficulties or as someone who doesn't know how to defend themselves and needs to be protected from everything?
“Were you a good father?” tells you accountant’s view of his own father. Regardless of his reasoning, a bully to his own kids. And he did that shit for a job so it wasn’t misguided love or even concern for the future. Their treatment from him was worse than any “advantage” people would take. He likely got a little chub watching them get beaten.
FYI...the Jackson Pollock painting that Ben Affleck gifted to Anna Kendrick at the end of the movie is named, "Free Form", painted in 1946. It is among the most valuable paintings in the world, last purchased in 2006 for $140 Million. Great reaction ladies, thumbs up!
if he does terrible things it's on them.. OK so he did great good things so that's also on them. See I personally think dawdling and empathy shit aint always the answer to get a good human. Sometimes trying to deal with an issue instead of finding a way around it just because it's "kind" does not help in the end. Great reaction video tho, I had good time watching it. And what I said is just my personal opinion on the matter so you can see the other side and maybe understand the dad better.
Ben's buddy Matt Damon played a math savant in Good Will Hunting and a kick-ass in the Bourne movies. Ben thought, I can do both in one movie, how bout them apples.
I work with 2 Autistic "kids", they are different in their behaviors but both like directness more than rambling or beating around the bush, but still want to be respected - becuase i have been around autistics before at clinics i have more experience than others at work so they have me deal with them and i think is another reason they keep me around lmao
this is why men have to raise their boys more so than their mothers. Balance is key but it's no coincidence more American men have become more feminine with fewer males present in the house. I respect their opinion on their channel but having watched multiple times it struck me how they didn't understand the father's perspective. Those boys had a disability that made them targets and he understood the real world and coddling wasn't a long-term solution for them to overcome and be successfully independent. He said a key thing in the car before they fought that they don't understand you or know why they don't like you or something to that effect.
LOL - this is a crazy fictional movie. And even in the movie, they boys turned out to be criminals - one a murderer for hire and the other an organized crime consultant.
Regarding the father he wasn't a bully he was just trying to put his autistic son in a better position to be able to defend himself if necessary. And since things are going to be 10 times harder for him psychologically he pushed his mind and he told him the train to help push his body and he was showing people the difference between a person who is a threat compared to him being weak
Agreed. His father absolutely loved him. He stuck with his sons when their mom walked out. He did for them what he thought was best. And, that is how they both grew up to be so capable.
@@kingquan2608 totally agree, my son is on the spectrum. I try not to coddle him, show him how to be physically and mentally capable to go through his day, at the same time show him enough affection to make him feel warmth. I’m showing him that he needs to be stronger than he needs to be because the world isn’t going to be nice to him all the time.
@@Turalcar maybe in the movies it's like that. But from experience I can say, the one thing I'm thankful that my dad did is force me into martial arts and force me to be tough when I had similar problems. I didn't really have a good relationship with him but this is one thing he did for which I'll always be grateful. Cuz that made me stronger mentally and physically stronger. Bullies stopped bullying me, I got into mma and I people felt more eager to approach and get to know me and I didn't have to worry about not fitting in anymore. Although now I don't have a genius brain or superhuman abilities, I've been doing mma for well over 6 years now and martial arts for more than a decade. And through that I've built my circle of people who truly understand me, my own support group. This is why even when I watched the movie the first time, I was actually supportive of the dad putting them through all that.
@@HABO2210 Mom just wanted a normal family. Dad was realistic, saw that was never going to happen, and was willing to put in the work required. He loved his boys.
@immaculatenzimande9929 Justine is not their sister. Justine and Christian became friends during his short stay there. They only show the picture of the two of them together at the end of the movie so that the audience realizes she was the voice on the phone calls.
I don't know if you've checked out stats on mental health and outcomes, but they're not getting better over time with modern remedies. The number of young children on psychotropic meds today is insane.
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I would have liked a father like the one who trained me
I was thought to stand up for myself too. I’m late thirties and it was definitely a different time when I was younger than today. The boys would fight their problems out and after it was squashed. And always was taught to stand up to bullies which was the lesson in the movie. They were picking on him bc he was autistic and they didn’t know he could kick their butts. Wish kids these days weren’t as soft as they are now. Society is to soft and ppl are getting away with way to much with no discipline anymore.
Abby asked if there are more like this: "The November Man" (2014) Pierce Brosnan "Harry Brown" (2009) Michael Caine "Eastern Promises" (2007) Viggo Mortensen "The Eiger Sanction" (1975) Clint Eastwood "Death Wish" (1974 original) Charles Bronson "Payback" (1999) Mel Gibson "Parker" (2013) Jason Statham "Jack Reacher" (2012) Tom Cruise "Wrath of Man" (2021) Jason Statham "Out of Sight" (1998) George Clooney Toy already watched these, but for Abby: "Nobody" (2021) Bob Odenkirk "Man on Fire" (2004 remake) Denzel Washington "R.E.D." (2010) Bruce Willis
I appreciate the sincerity in this reaction. Some people act like they are watching something for the first time and I can just tell they are lying n just reacting to something they've already watched for the views. Thank you for the sincerity.
Abby, you remind me of a young Holly Hunter. You also have a great sense of humor. You and Toy are great together, and I always enjoy your reactions!❤😊
"Are there more movies like this?" Everybody knows about John Wick, but there's also 'Peppermint' featuring Jennifer Garner and 'Nobody' featuring Saul Goodman, I mean, Bob Odenkirk.
The hit man that he kills on the farm is Tate Fletcher, who was also killed by John Wick in the club in the first movie. He was also killed by McCall in The Equalizer. In real life he's an MMA badass
I think it was a test on Medina and to slowly ease her in in taking over Ray's place because it was Ray who explained to Medina who the accountant was from his time in the army prison, the reason he was in prison ,the reason he escaped and why the accountant does the things he does.
This movie has one of the most creative fight moves I've ever seen, where he stuffs a grenade INSIDE someone's body armor, so the explosion is directed inward. One of the things that fascinated me in this movie was how his face is always expressionless no matter if he's fighting or whatever. I appreciated that the writers resisted the temptation to go for a direct romance because it wouldn't feel realistic. He likes her because he appreciates that she can understand him some. But it would still be very difficult for him to do a close relationship like that.
The shin rolling thing is common amongst kick-boxers and Muay Thai fighters, you create micro fractures along the shin and it heals back stronger, i used to do it as a teen as well, its mostly only painful on the skin because of friction, its a bit of a unique feeling Also, Bernthals acting in this is top notch, to go from hardened killer, popping out hilarious lines, to being the wounded little brother who just absolutely missed his big brother, wild
16:46 Many people who work in the accounting world can't math for anything either. This is why learning spreadsheets and 10-key typing is so critical. As for catching errors, there are certain things you can look for. For example, if there is a difference between your trail balance and the totals in your bank statement, and that difference is divisible by 9, you probably have a transposition error. Transposition errors are when you type in something like $2,173.00 instead of $2,713.00
16:04 There's a difference between not wanting to speak and having difficulty speaking. She is not having trouble reading the social cues. She's having trouble interacting with someone who speaks a completely different social cue language.
You ladies are so different. I think that’s what makes your reactions so much fun. Isn’t this a great movie! Totally underrated. They are making a sequel. I have hopes. I agree that J. K. Is awesome. Thanks.
So I heard they are only showing Affleck top side…you do know that he played a very good Batman….full scenes with his doing the whole body action sequences..…actors train…Keanu trained for 7 months for John Wick…Affleck trained…and this movie was a rather large hit…now they are making The Accountant II…he explains to Anna Kendrick what he has…a high functioning autistic condition…and the experts agreed…for the portrayal of this condition…he was great…pounding the legs makes them ready for deadly combat…the facial expressions…spot on…
This. I used a rolling pin on my shins while learning MMA. You're trying to desensitize your shin while also creating a callous atop the bone, turning it into a weapon. We also had a heavy bag of powered concrete to work with as well.
Afflecks best movie for me! First time I've actually liked him in a film! ARGOS is good too, but this one is more fun and way cooler! One of the best Hitmen ever! 😂
You can whine about "parents do this" and all that other nonsense but his dad made him into a man that can handle the world better than most other men. What's the problem? The only problem I see is dads are too soft on kids these days.
Nice reaction. I like when you both walk into a movie completely blind to what it is. I'm sure that adds to the stress and results in more hugged pillows. 😁 I used to do that when I was young. A friend and I would go see movies when we had no idea what they were about. We wound up seeing some really great movies that we never would have had interest in otherwise.
Outstanding, tough conspiracy thriller that is “broken” with clever twists and black humor. The actors are all great, but Affleck is especially impressive as a one-man fighting machine with his own moral code.
I don't normally like face tattoos, but I gotta say one I love your hair and your tattoo is brilliantly done and looks awesome... I just found you here both of you and now I am subscribed. So I just absolutely love that tattoo and your hair gorgeous, you both are, but that tattoo is wow!!!
You Did get the girl saying with the computer at the end ( wanna have a chat Dreamboat ) was the same voice as the one on the phone with the FBI agent and helping out the accountant didn't you ?? You didn't mention that you got that ..
So, the father is problematic when you apply real world logic to movie story. His methods would rightfully get you arrested in real life. But the mother is problematic in BOTH movie and real life...right in the first scene, she calls her own son "a problem". Father wanted to help (good movie/real world) by turning his son into a killing machine (bad real/good movie). Mother just saw autism as some kind of failing she didn't want to deal with (bad both).
Abby, since you enjoyed this movie, you should check out "Mercury Rising". And for more John Lithgow playing a bad guy, try "Cliffhanger" where he has a larger role, or "Blow Out" where he has a smaller one.
the accountant's superman comic brings to mind the intro to the 1950s live-action tv show: he was a strange visitor from (seemingly) another planet, who came to earth with powers and abilities far beyond those of mortal men! fun factoid: the mustachioed goon liquidated @23:50 by the accountant also had in 2014 the additional pleasure of 1) getting a double-tap to the cap from john wick in the club shootout and 2) getting a mirror shard in the throat from the equalizer in the climactic showdown. unstoppable one-man armies don't make life easy for a hench.
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What movie has the most realistic portrayal of Autism?
"Simple Jack" starring Tug Speedman
When I was in high school in Art IV class, I saw that exact Pollack in a textbook. It is worth over an estimate $2.4 million USD.
My first time watching this movie long ago, I was really down on the father for his harsh treatment of his son….it took years for me to realize the father was the one who did NOT abandon him, but did what was necessary to prepare his son for the world in which he would need to survive .
Same here actually..
He went too far. His kids were screwed up because of it.
@@dnish6673 not really there father just teach them the reality to survive
@@dnish6673 - All depends.
Like the ladies commented: that's not fair - of how Ray King treated Maeybeth Medina (played by J.K Simmons and Cynthia Addai-Robinson).
But... welcome to the world of not just a modern corporations, but someting like a public sector too (especially if you are a contractor).
Yeah, I can see that happening without any issues whatsoever.
As for kids screwed up? They were already "screwed up" (sorry for that word) and didn't have a normal childhood, being in 10+ schools, in several years, because of their father, who he was. And one of them was autistic since the beginning. The story is much more complex than just saying "screw up", as there is a lot of moving parts, but you probaby missing that approach, including autistic part.
Screw up? No. As painfull as it is, he most likely knew what was going on with one of his son, and being who he was (including his background), he was trying to prepare him (both of his sons in fact), of reality of living the life. As brutal as it may sounds (because at the end, yeah - the life is brutal, and not everybody can cope with it), sometimes it is the only way to go.
Note: I've been working in various places in US (NY, LA, Alaska, Hawaii), UK (London mostly but a lot of corpos: Morgan Stanley, Bank of England, BDO, or even something like TFL, Centrica, NHS (hello St.Thomas Hospital close to Waterloo station) or University College London and more), Japan (Tokyo, Kyoto), most countries in EU (including northern ones, pretty much most of them), Hong Kong (4-5 times there), Australia... and few others.
And yeah, the treatment of Medina is not unusual, in fact it is a common aspect of high level jobs. Some people may say - some of them. No. In some cases, it is actually quite comon of how top level management can treat you in this way (not exactly blackmail, but put a preasure: do it, or you will be gone). Unfair? Sure. But that is exactly the reality of a lot of jobs is.
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The father did his job to teach his boys to be self sufficient and not be taken advantage of.. Like any child, once they grow up to be adults, they make choices for themselves and so where they end up is a result of that.
Military Intelligence has studied the P.T.S.D or previously called shell shock, they discovered that in usually comes on after service when life slows down and becomes relatively calm. Some that chose to go back into combat saw symptoms disappear because the constant stress and mental alertness and stimulation of combat strengthens the coping mechanisms needed to overcome them. This Col. Army Intel dad used this knowledge to fortify his son so he could function and protect himself in the world after he was gone.
One thing about those brothers, they understood what their father was tryna doo. They were trained to be mentality and physically strong and capable of overcoming whatever challenge they faced. They both loved em. Best thing that ever happened to them was the mum leaving. She wasnt fit
Of course a woman would never understand mens perspective. They were softly nurtured from infancy to well into their adulthood. Like Bill Burr mentioned, maybe not all their issues are solved, but at least the world cares about them.
The dad turned them into killers. They’re criminals.
@@dnish6673 He turned them into soldiers. One became a merc after serving - the other became an accountant.
He parked the only way that the truck would fit in the garage. And he did it PRECISELY.
The guys on the green beret channel noted that the accountant is trying to keep a low profile, and one way to do that is to get in your garage and close the door as fast as possible, so someone tailing you can't figure out which house you went to. So while he would prefer to park straight, this way he maintains his cover and incidentally avoids the minigun.
Also door opens before he gets there and closes immediately. Reducing the time exposed to danger if he has been followed.
18:00 Notice how in this scene his speech is more natural, he makes eye contact with Dana, and he is much more animated. For me (on the spectrum) this is one of the best depictions of an autistic person when they are talking with someone who shares their specific interests. Contrast this scene with their awkward lunch conversation; it’s a great portrayal
Thanks so much for this insight!
About his father.
On a rewatch I can see what the father did although controversial was good for his son. From the first scene his mother complained and called "Christian" a problem and just wanted him gone then abandon them all. The father truly cared about his son and didn't want to farm him out to a neuroscience institute. His question was the key to the whole movie when the father asked "doctor in your opinion can our son lead a normal life?" When the answer was clearly "no" the father knew he had to prepare his son for an abnormal life and he had to prepare Braxton to always have "Christian's" back so "Christian" wouldn't become a victim. This is also displayed through the girl from the beginning who in contrast to christian despite getting all the help she could possibly get ended up still stuck in the institute, got bad enough that she stopped talking, and kept obsessing over small things like one tiny wrinkle on her bed sheets. However assisting "Christian" gives her purpose and hope and they give hope for people who get treatment at the institute. This was all perfectly stated in the last thing the doctor said "If we let the world set their expectations they will start low and stay there" and "maybe your son is capable of much more than we know." Not at all saying what the father did is the best solution for all people with neurodevelopment disorders but it was probably the best option for his sons.
I always liked this movie, and I think it has consistently been underrated.
Check out an Anna Kendrick movie with Sam Rockwell called "Mr. Right" if you can. It's a really funny comedy with dark overtones.
Great suggestion! It would fit right in with this channel and it's funny.
Anorher TWO who didn't realise The Autistic Girl at the end is the Female Computer voice working with Affleck throughout movie! P.S The Pollock Painting is now worth between $110M - $140M.👍🙏
I dont think its a matter of not understanding when presented with the information, but instead, I feel like reactors, especially those who are "Duo" based, are simply going to just end up always missing certain "realization" scenes in movies, due to the nature of how movie reactions are done. When people like us watch movies, we arent constantly having short little discussions about the scenes as we watch them, but become invested and higher focused. You have to imagine its just plain old distraction that results in many reactors always missing key bits in movies. At least thats how I see it...
Avoiding negative things only makes you weaker.
How we get snowflakes...look to the video
They are in production of THE ACCOUNTAIN II (Affleck, Bernthal, and Kendrick are all coming back)
Except Anna Kendrick
He's not trying to be rude or blunt. It takes a lot of work for him to parse facial expressions and body language so unless he deems it to be absolutely necessary (like if he likes you) then he doesn't bother. This is just the character's normal form of interpersonal interaction. "Resting rude" if you will.
I'm a neuroatypical who was an accounting specialist in the Army. I freaking love this movie.
I have aspergers myself. The father did the right thing helping coping with his problems and building up his strengths. The problem is you never get the autism out of your system, which wouldnt be a prpblem if people understand us better. Never happens. Not my parents or brother tried to understand and accept it. They are still hoping me getting" normal". I explained to them that i had a black bubble around me i couldnt watch trough. Agter years of training i can watch out and react, also understand and have fun in communication. But the bubble yet transparent will always be there. So i still can not fully connect, no feeling connections, just interest. Not knowing which is better me in black bubble not caring or in transparent bubble caring but not feeling. Hate it. And it will never change. Would be nice if family at least understands or gives a try in it. So if you have someone on the spectrum watch good doctor, temple grandin or sherlock with cumberbatch made me understand to work withyself. Just thinking in pictures, had years of psychologist telling me i am mental not autistic. Still not enough professionals in germany.
Agreed, well put. As someone on the PDD-NOS end of the spectrum, I really appreciated many of the nuances of autism portrayed in this movie.
7:09 One of the things I love about this film is how they show that standard mental health treatment IS NOT ALWAYS the best option. You rarely get individually tailored care. Largely thanks to insurance companies, the "this treatment works for most" gets turned into "this is the only treatment for everyone."
Another point:
The goal of mental health care IS NOT (or at least should not be) to make you like everyone else. The goal is to get you to a place where you are able to function in society without debilitating distress.
In this case, I'd say "mission accomplished".
He may have difficulty with unfinished projects, but they don't leave him in a complete meltdown.
Dad did exactly what good dad's SHOULD do, prepare their kids to succeed in this cruel world.
Not sure if someone already answered this, but whole rolling a rod on the leg thing is something martial artists sometimes do in order to harden the shins against stress and impact, IIRC.
I haven't seen anyone explain that yet! Thank you very much! 😊😊😊❤✌🏽.
Such and underrated movie.
That Is also a theory why John Wick is so good in what he does.
Because he has a form of autism he is so laser focused and precise.
Which kind of makes sense, John is also socially "akward", does not speak much, shows very little emotion (or not able to). Able to focus on the tiniest detail and the need to finish what he starts, no matter how long it takes.
That's kind of a theory that makes sense!
it's also funny to note that amongst the elite of the military, most of them are hyper focused individuals who give 110% to every task in front of them, I would assume most of them have varying degrees of OCD, ADHD or Autism
You totally didn't get that the girl was his phone contact.
He had to hide the pollock painting at the end when it went through the mail because that painting only goes for like $100,000,000 😂
It's so curious to see Abby criticizing the father's desire for his son not to be protected from the world and for society to adapt to the boy's needs. All the father wanted was to prepare his son mentally and physically to face real life. Just do some research and ask: would you like your child to be raised to be strong and face difficulties or as someone who doesn't know how to defend themselves and needs to be protected from everything?
Well his sons turned out to be murderers, so….
“Were you a good father?” tells you accountant’s view of his own father. Regardless of his reasoning, a bully to his own kids. And he did that shit for a job so it wasn’t misguided love or even concern for the future. Their treatment from him was worse than any “advantage” people would take. He likely got a little chub watching them get beaten.
FYI...the Jackson Pollock painting that Ben Affleck gifted to Anna Kendrick at the end of the movie is named, "Free Form", painted in 1946. It is among the most valuable paintings in the world, last purchased in 2006 for $140 Million.
Great reaction ladies, thumbs up!
if he does terrible things it's on them.. OK so he did great good things so that's also on them. See I personally think dawdling and empathy shit aint always the answer to get a good human. Sometimes trying to deal with an issue instead of finding a way around it just because it's "kind" does not help in the end.
Great reaction video tho, I had good time watching it. And what I said is just my personal opinion on the matter so you can see the other side and maybe understand the dad better.
One of my favorite movies. One of Ben Affleck's best rolls in my book.
The Blonde trying to make everything psychological is very annoying!
He did get the proper help as a kid.
Ben's buddy Matt Damon played a math savant in Good Will Hunting and a kick-ass in the Bourne movies. Ben thought, I can do both in one movie, how bout them apples.
I work with 2 Autistic "kids", they are different in their behaviors but both like directness more than rambling or beating around the bush, but still want to be respected - becuase i have been around autistics before at clinics i have more experience than others at work so they have me deal with them and i think is another reason they keep me around lmao
His dad was the best.
this is why men have to raise their boys more so than their mothers. Balance is key but it's no coincidence more American men have become more feminine with fewer males present in the house. I respect their opinion on their channel but having watched multiple times it struck me how they didn't understand the father's perspective. Those boys had a disability that made them targets and he understood the real world and coddling wasn't a long-term solution for them to overcome and be successfully independent. He said a key thing in the car before they fought that they don't understand you or know why they don't like you or something to that effect.
LOL - this is a crazy fictional movie. And even in the movie, they boys turned out to be criminals - one a murderer for hire and the other an organized crime consultant.
Regarding the father he wasn't a bully he was just trying to put his autistic son in a better position to be able to defend himself if necessary. And since things are going to be 10 times harder for him psychologically he pushed his mind and he told him the train to help push his body and he was showing people the difference between a person who is a threat compared to him being weak
It's zero surprise they grew up to be criminals
Agreed. His father absolutely loved him. He stuck with his sons when their mom walked out. He did for them what he thought was best. And, that is how they both grew up to be so capable.
@@kingquan2608 he raised his 2 sons the way more men need to raise their sons, and create a strong men to make a strong country again
@@kingquan2608 totally agree, my son is on the spectrum. I try not to coddle him, show him how to be physically and mentally capable to go through his day, at the same time show him enough affection to make him feel warmth. I’m showing him that he needs to be stronger than he needs to be because the world isn’t going to be nice to him all the time.
@@Turalcar maybe in the movies it's like that. But from experience I can say, the one thing I'm thankful that my dad did is force me into martial arts and force me to be tough when I had similar problems. I didn't really have a good relationship with him but this is one thing he did for which I'll always be grateful. Cuz that made me stronger mentally and physically stronger. Bullies stopped bullying me, I got into mma and I people felt more eager to approach and get to know me and I didn't have to worry about not fitting in anymore. Although now I don't have a genius brain or superhuman abilities, I've been doing mma for well over 6 years now and martial arts for more than a decade. And through that I've built my circle of people who truly understand me, my own support group. This is why even when I watched the movie the first time, I was actually supportive of the dad putting them through all that.
the chick with the computer at the end is the british chick on the phone you guys' kept asking who it was. shes pretty much his handler in a way.
The dad is a good guy in this.
Unlike their mother who didn't even bother
@@HABO2210 Mom just wanted a normal family. Dad was realistic, saw that was never going to happen, and was willing to put in the work required. He loved his boys.
Yes! I don't know how people miss the fact that the boys loved him n thought of him as a good dad. People also miss that Justine is their sister.
@immaculatenzimande9929 Justine is not their sister. Justine and Christian became friends during his short stay there. They only show the picture of the two of them together at the end of the movie so that the audience realizes she was the voice on the phone calls.
@@krayzy932 omg! how did I go on all this time thinking it was their sister!? you are right.
Can't wait for the sequel, it's in production now
I don't know if you've checked out stats on mental health and outcomes, but they're not getting better over time with modern remedies. The number of young children on psychotropic meds today is insane.
I would have liked a father like the one who trained me
I was thought to stand up for myself too. I’m late thirties and it was definitely a different time when I was younger than today. The boys would fight their problems out and after it was squashed. And always was taught to stand up to bullies which was the lesson in the movie. They were picking on him bc he was autistic and they didn’t know he could kick their butts. Wish kids these days weren’t as soft as they are now. Society is to soft and ppl are getting away with way to much with no discipline anymore.
The twist at the end is such a great addition
Abby asked if there are more like this:
"The November Man" (2014) Pierce Brosnan
"Harry Brown" (2009) Michael Caine
"Eastern Promises" (2007) Viggo Mortensen
"The Eiger Sanction" (1975) Clint Eastwood
"Death Wish" (1974 original) Charles Bronson
"Payback" (1999) Mel Gibson
"Parker" (2013) Jason Statham
"Jack Reacher" (2012) Tom Cruise
"Wrath of Man" (2021) Jason Statham
"Out of Sight" (1998) George Clooney
Toy already watched these, but for Abby:
"Nobody" (2021) Bob Odenkirk
"Man on Fire" (2004 remake) Denzel Washington
"R.E.D." (2010) Bruce Willis
The painting that was given to the girl is valued at $140M USD
John Lithgow was in a movie called "The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the Eighth Dimension". It is a quirky Sci Fi movie.
I appreciate the sincerity in this reaction. Some people act like they are watching something for the first time and I can just tell they are lying n just reacting to something they've already watched for the views. Thank you for the sincerity.
no stacks and stacks of phoniness here. These ladies are the real deal
Don't know if you realized, but Justine was the one "talking" to him on the phone and changing his identification and vehicle registration.
This was a great movie! I’m so glad that it’s finally getting a part 2. 😊
Missed the big reveal, ah well.
Abby, you remind me of a young Holly Hunter. You also have a great sense of humor. You and Toy are great together, and I always enjoy your reactions!❤😊
agreed, love all the ladies but Abby is my favorite. Love the abster
@@ricowade4987 😊
I love this movie. My nephew is autistic. Ben Afflec is not always a favorite for me but this is really good.
You probably remember John Lithgow as the person who played the Trinity killer from Dexter.
I always remember him from A) Third Rock From The Sun, and B) the baddie from Cliffhanger
The dad from Harry and the Hendersons
I think it’s always good to point out who’s doing their own stunts. That never pulls anybody out of the movie ever.
"Are there more movies like this?" Everybody knows about John Wick, but there's also 'Peppermint' featuring Jennifer Garner and 'Nobody' featuring Saul Goodman, I mean, Bob Odenkirk.
Producer's note: Toy has a reaction to Nobody here on the channel. It's one of our favorite videos.
While facility with numbers is certainly important in accounting, pattern recognition may be a more significant factor in forensic accounting.
The hit man that he kills on the farm is Tate Fletcher, who was also killed by John Wick in the club in the first movie. He was also killed by McCall in The Equalizer. In real life he's an MMA badass
He's also been killed twice in "The Mandalorian" (playing different characters).
I never understood why the JK Simmons character was so eager to find the ID of the accountant. He was his informant and it had worked well.
I think it was a test on Medina and to slowly ease her in in taking over Ray's place because it was Ray who explained to Medina who the accountant was from his time in the army prison, the reason he was in prison ,the reason he escaped and why the accountant does the things he does.
36:11 BINGO!! 😎
The sequel is being made soon with the brothers teaming up
Nice!
This movie has one of the most creative fight moves I've ever seen, where he stuffs a grenade INSIDE someone's body armor, so the explosion is directed inward.
One of the things that fascinated me in this movie was how his face is always expressionless no matter if he's fighting or whatever.
I appreciated that the writers resisted the temptation to go for a direct romance because it wouldn't feel realistic. He likes her because he appreciates that she can understand him some. But it would still be very difficult for him to do a close relationship like that.
OH RITA! I love this movie! Really enjoyed your reactions.
😂😂😂😂😂 poor Rita.
And thank you so much. Hope you have an awesome weekend. 😊😊😊😊❤❤✌🏽✌🏽
Hes not going to die because he is...... BATMAN!!!!
The shin rolling thing is common amongst kick-boxers and Muay Thai fighters, you create micro fractures along the shin and it heals back stronger, i used to do it as a teen as well, its mostly only painful on the skin because of friction, its a bit of a unique feeling
Also, Bernthals acting in this is top notch, to go from hardened killer, popping out hilarious lines, to being the wounded little brother who just absolutely missed his big brother, wild
16:46 Many people who work in the accounting world can't math for anything either.
This is why learning spreadsheets and 10-key typing is so critical.
As for catching errors, there are certain things you can look for. For example, if there is a difference between your trail balance and the totals in your bank statement, and that difference is divisible by 9, you probably have a transposition error.
Transposition errors are when you type in something like $2,173.00 instead of $2,713.00
16:04 There's a difference between not wanting to speak and having difficulty speaking.
She is not having trouble reading the social cues. She's having trouble interacting with someone who speaks a completely different social cue language.
Amazing movie that didnt get the credit it deserved imo
You ladies are so different. I think that’s what makes your reactions so much fun. Isn’t this a great movie! Totally underrated. They are making a sequel. I have hopes. I agree that J. K. Is awesome. Thanks.
So I heard they are only showing Affleck top side…you do know that he played a very good Batman….full scenes with his doing the whole body action sequences..…actors train…Keanu trained for 7 months for John Wick…Affleck trained…and this movie was a rather large hit…now they are making The Accountant II…he explains to Anna Kendrick what he has…a high functioning autistic condition…and the experts agreed…for the portrayal of this condition…he was great…pounding the legs makes them ready for deadly combat…the facial expressions…spot on…
That painting is worth about 250 million. 😂😂
Nice reaction. I hope they follow through with part II soon.
YES!! I’ve been waiting for more people to react to this movie
Yes ! You ladies should watch the awesome sequel “Top Gun Maverick “! You will ❤️ watching and reacting to it! Also, Get more tissues ready…..
You two do the best editing I've ever seen in a "First Time Watching" vid!
Thank you!
@@RuntotheMovies yw! You two are great together :-)
Beating the leg then rolling it properly makes it very tough , it's done by some martial fighters
This. I used a rolling pin on my shins while learning MMA. You're trying to desensitize your shin while also creating a callous atop the bone, turning it into a weapon. We also had a heavy bag of powered concrete to work with as well.
And it hurts like hell. We do it at my MMA club
Afflecks best movie for me! First time I've actually liked him in a film! ARGOS is good too, but this one is more fun and way cooler! One of the best Hitmen ever! 😂
To put America in order, we need more accountants and Beekeepers, so that there is order at last!
"The Accountant 2" is supposedly in the works.
When you unlock the passenger side door, all the doors unlocked. That’s why he parked so close to the driver side door
Anna Kendrick did great in this movie.
I just bought this movie last week for a great niece who had a child and partner with forms of autism.
As a neuro-divergent person I though Affleck did an outstanding job portraying someone on the spectrum.
Great reaction vid, as always. Your hair looks amazing, Toy! That color looks so good on you.
Should have been a sequel!
You can whine about "parents do this" and all that other nonsense but his dad made him into a man that can handle the world better than most other men. What's the problem? The only problem I see is dads are too soft on kids these days.
The problem? His one son turned into a murderer for hire and the other turned into a money launderer. Who kills on the side.
Ben Affleck does his own stunts
Haven't seen this before, and it was actually pretty good. It was really nice to watch with you, thanks, Chums 🙂🏴
Okay, only because I love you ladies.
Every time I see Ben Affleck all I hear is J-Lo saying "Turkey time!" LOL
Anyway great show, ladies! ❤️ U!
Nice reaction. I like when you both walk into a movie completely blind to what it is. I'm sure that adds to the stress and results in more hugged pillows. 😁
I used to do that when I was young. A friend and I would go see movies when we had no idea what they were about. We wound up seeing some really great movies that we never would have had interest in otherwise.
Outstanding, tough conspiracy thriller that is “broken” with clever twists and black humor.
The actors are all great, but Affleck is especially impressive as a one-man fighting machine with his own moral code.
I don't normally like face tattoos, but I gotta say one I love your hair and your tattoo is brilliantly done and looks awesome... I just found you here both of you and now I am subscribed. So I just absolutely love that tattoo and your hair gorgeous, you both are, but that tattoo is wow!!!
I'm just looking through all your videos here. How many different friends do you watch videos with? It's unusual to swap reacting partners like that?
Mr. Right is another great Anna Kendrick movie.
You Did get the girl saying with the computer at the end ( wanna have a chat Dreamboat ) was the same voice as the one on the phone with the FBI agent and helping out the accountant didn't you ?? You didn't mention that you got that ..
15:50 Yes, the Zen of double-entry accounting.
One of the Greatest movies ever for me. Loved your reactions
Thanks so much for watching with us!
Another enjoyable reaction. I love Abby's predictions. I think we may have a few more quotes from this reaction from Toy for The Book of Toy.
Love you ladies! Great reaction! I love this movie! I was only really good at Math Gym and Art in school! "Oh Rita!" Kekek
That’s a primer. The happy faces.
So, the father is problematic when you apply real world logic to movie story. His methods would rightfully get you arrested in real life. But the mother is problematic in BOTH movie and real life...right in the first scene, she calls her own son "a problem". Father wanted to help (good movie/real world) by turning his son into a killing machine (bad real/good movie). Mother just saw autism as some kind of failing she didn't want to deal with (bad both).
Abby, since you enjoyed this movie, you should check out "Mercury Rising". And for more John Lithgow playing a bad guy, try "Cliffhanger" where he has a larger role, or "Blow Out" where he has a smaller one.
the accountant's superman comic brings to mind the intro to the 1950s live-action tv show: he was a strange visitor from (seemingly) another planet, who came to earth with powers and abilities far beyond those of mortal men!
fun factoid: the mustachioed goon liquidated @23:50 by the accountant also had in 2014 the additional pleasure of 1) getting a double-tap to the cap from john wick in the club shootout and 2) getting a mirror shard in the throat from the equalizer in the climactic showdown. unstoppable one-man armies don't make life easy for a hench.
Its so frustrating when you see reaction channels cut out certain lines and good scenes.. but keep the run of the mill scenes!
This channel should be sponsored by a stress ball company :D
Yes, please!