what about doing a comparison video between old school and new school amps? things like part quality, heat sink, sound quality, wattage, stable ohm loads, reliability, cost, how and why they changed over the years. just in your general opinion to show us what makes these amps so great
@@wal i second this comment i love the old rockford amps even tho now they cost more than the new ones with more power they just don't look as cool as the old Darth Vader amps
I really like your videos of all your oldschool - RF- Amps! Thanks for that. Today i also have a small collection of: 200DSM, 200 ix, 2 x power 250M, 60ix , 60X2, 40ix , 500a2 and some Punch status displays. Im proud of owning two of the 250M from around 1996, one was blown and smoking , but it took me less than 10$ of spareparts to fix it. Now they work like new. when you link these beasts, you have 1945 watts on 2 ohms!! In 1995 the punch 40ix was my first " real " amp ( 699 german marks ) and i had it running on 2 ohms mono ( two eminence ECV10 in pushpull ) for several years - no problems at all. I found an older article of an audio magazine from italy where they did some tests with the power 50M and power 250M. They had the power 50M running at 0.125 ohm, that were 32 10" woofers. I am still surprised how clean and powerful the punch 60 sounds today. I use them for bluetooth-toolbox-boombox-projects :-) They easily outperform the expensive-boombox-stuff available today, but you need a big battery! Do you know if the 200 DSM has a little more power than the 200 ix? The specs say 400 watts mono 4 ohms with 11.9 battery volts . the newer 200 ix is also 400 Watts 4 ohms mono, but specified at 12.6 battery volts. should not be a big difference.. Greetings from germany :-)
Man I start out with a RF 40ix didn't know what I had until I started to see the black and grey ones. Came up on another older rf amp for tweeters and then 2 years later I found the greyand bronze 50.2 and a power 250.1 I loved those amps so cool looking and rhey took everything I throw at them. When I had off time during college I would just go in the stereos shops in the bay area and just look at all the stuff they had back then all made Un usa power. Miss those days saved up money for gas and beats. I had to do all the installs myself so I they were crude but did the job. Old school RF forever trying to find a 800.4 to put in my convertible to run components loud. 😅
Love your stuff, D. "Oooold schoooool". I have a soft side for RF. That's the brand that started it for me back in '98. I remember a 120a2 would rattle my buddy's Tiburon apart when testing my two 12" Kicker FreeAir subs. That was some tight bass for such a small amp. He also had a JVC El Kameleon head unit. It was cool, hah! Ahh, good times! Now I got two chrome Punch 500.2 from '98. One has the original receipt for $1399.95. That's CRAZY! I did miss the REAL old-school, because I was too young to care prior to '97. Which is why I now catch up with your channel. :)
I remember back in the days only amps we could get our hands on in a little town in florida..Was them sherwood amps we thought we really had something till we were introduced to Rockford Fosgate and it changed our whole world...Back in the 88,89 dayz..lol
Been getting my collection up of Old School Rockford Power. Currently have: A2 Series- Punch 800a2 w/ end caps Original Warranty Stickers still in tact( Selling on Ebay atm) Power 800a4 w/ end caps Original Warranty Stickers still in tact(Year 2000 only A4 with 4 Gauge ) Power 1100a2 Was only opened to check serial number ; emblem was off and couldn't verify the model number(Type 6 Heatsink used in several models). This was actually tested by a Rockford engineer. .2 Series: Power 800.2 BD Series: Power 1001BD Am in the process of sending all except the 1100a2 to be tested by rockford. I would love to have them on the show once I know they are stable and wont fault in the RUclips spotlight lol. Subwoofers: 1999 Power DVC 12" Model Number RFR-2212(1000 watts RMS; 2000 Peak), In a single sealed 12" enclosure. This would be a fun one as well, the voice coil is ridiculous. This sub is in very good condition. Big thanks to D wiz for all the effort and dedication to the old school. Gotta love how the amp dyno really clears the air full of myths and false legends. Old school stereo shows you who the real McCoys are.
Great video dude! I have been waiting for a real dyno test of one of these. I Still have my old school RF Power 800a2 and Power 800a4 running in my Scion Xb (third car they have been in) with my Pioneer P80prs (thanks for that great video too) as the source. They have been rock solid amps and I always knew they had balls bigger than the birth sheet said.
thank you for responding. i have an 800a2 that amazingly enough i bought at an estate sale for 10 bucks. i took it home wired it up and it works. talk about score!!! i currently use the amp in my truck. it works just fine. on these amp dynos you guys are dropping the ohm loads down to number i never even heard of(hahahaa) i am in the process of redesigning my system and i would truly like to see some safe numbers i could play with. by the way i believe it was you who had the showroom of old amps brought back some good memories hell it even put a lump in my throat. thanks again
Wow, haven't seen those in forever! Back in high school around 99' I had a RF punch 400a4 and two 360a2. The birth sheets on the 360a2's were both around 560 watts. My '95 Ford Taurus might not have been the coolest car high school but damn did it sound good! Lol!
Had a power 800a4 running two hx2 10s at 2 ohm stereo and fnQ 6&tweets, fnQ 5&tweets, and 2 pairs of fanaticQ 4's all w 24db passives high and low on the mids..running on the other two channels in my 95 silverado for damn near 10 years... never a problem... killer amps
I just now got one also I've wanted one for decades and the newer class d amps are smaller more efficient and can make more power but they dont look this cool doing it
I still have this amp. used to have 2 12" JL Audio 12WO-8 that I was popping over & over. didn't even have the amp at full power. finally got 2 Lanzars HRWDC12 & then my problem was over. Friend of mine explained my problems, car shop had no knowledge
Love this channel just seeing all the old school power house amps from the early 90s. Im 45 now and still love car audio. My prize car was 87 Mustang Gt that had 22 speakers in it. My amps of choice then were Precision Power Art series and HiFonics colossus. Man that car could know off trash cans.. I do mexhanic work on and sometimes people have no idea what these monster things are and be like can u take it out and fix the radio..so i have a nice collection of some oldies RF, Kicker, Blade, Us Amps...my current ride is a new charger rt it has nice alpine factory system but when i blow it up i will be sneaking my army of monsters in the trunk. Thanks for your work playa
I had this amp in my first car, running a 15" Cerwin Vega DVC subwoofer and then when that died it ran 2 x 12" Rockford Fosgate DVC subwoofers. Sounded great!!
+Kuldip Panesar nice setup. I don't think 4ch amps get the credit they deserve for powering subs. I used them for years in 3ch mode, front channels powering components and rear channels bridged to sub(s) 👍
Hey +bill pruett, mine was a CV 154 from 2001, still pumped though, i was lucky to have it replaced under warranty (from the UK) when it burnt out it's coil. Great to meet other like minded people :) Absolutely loved the sound produced by the 15 never got that same sound from any other sub that I had afterwards.
I sure do appreciate what you do BigD..ive got the "Power" version of this same amp and been putting the wood to my Boston Pro series 6.5s for a few years now...im certain the power series numbers are similar to the punch series..so now i have an idea of where my numbers are at. now im OUTTA HEEEEERE
I just scored one of these, a power 500@2 and two HE2'S tens from a used car here at work. When we get trade in's one of our jobs is to refurbish the car back to original . We got a suburban in and I spied this right away and within minutes I had everything stripped out . The funny thing is about three days later some one ( previous owner ) jacked the truck and drove it across the street to meet up with another truck to unload all the Rockford stuff that was sitting in my tool box 🤣😂🤣😂🤣. Not to mention all the warranty seals are still intact and since everything was pro-ish installed in this 2001 burban it was all in like new condition......cost me 0 bucks 😎
I have two RF Power series 600.4 on my twelve 6.5s, which are also RF team components. Couldn't ask for a better amp. Only way I'd take them out my car is to get the 1000.4 series. Rock solid amp!!
Has the near future arrived yet BigD? I'm dying to see what one of my Power 1100a2 will do on the dyno. I have two of them, one on each sub at the moment, wired to 2 ohms mono each... (I have seen your short Dynamic 1 ohm vid, 3,000+ watts is impressive, but would love to see a full dyno video!)
Love the BigDWiz vidoes! My fav! Have you ever dyno'd an old school Punch 240.4 ? I still have an original owner RFG-1240 Punch 240.4 from '97 with the box. Wondering how it's 30w/CH really does.
back in my teens i had the 800a2 powering 2 cerwin vegas 12s in parallel. the amp punched through 8 sets of speakers and was still strong. then the day came when she died.
Great vid man! What do you feel a 600a5 in perfect working condition and nearly mint condition is worth these days? Complete with both end caps of course and the info sticker on the bottom of the amp is still like new. Also on a side note, the measurements in that brochure don't include the end caps. My 600.a5 is 18 1/8" at the widest point(bottom).
I have one of these in my closet... still has the end caps. I got it to drive 4 polk 6x9's in a previous car that I traded in. I kept the amp, but was too lazy to pull the speakers. I had tried a sony 4x70, Massive Audio 4x100, but neither could run them for very long at a decent volume without shutting down. The RF would drive them all day long.
love them old Rockford amps had a punch 200ix on two buy one get one free Rockford Fosgate tens from Best Buy on the Left Channel at 2 ohms and two buy one get one free Rockford twelves on the right Channel at 2 ohms and was hitting a 142.3 on the floor board with passenger door open in a 87 Nissan King Cab. and was hitting 139 with the cab sealed. hard to believe how much output you can get out of a 400 watt amp and some cheap speakers
There’s one of these for sale locally (not gonna say what site…lol) for $50 bucks. Gonna try and grab it today before it gets bought by someone who won’t appreciate it.
I've had several RF amp's back in the day. RF included a "Birth Certificate" with every amp, showing it's actual measured power before being packaged. Not sure if they still do that or not.
Wish you could have ran it with the wired remote. All I done was plug it in, and run it to the front. I could barely turn it half way, no changes to any settings. Question, this was one of a few amps I could reverse bridge, others would go into safety mode. What happens when you reverse bridge, when several people seen how it was bridged, they would sort of freak out, saying I was going to burn it up.
@@toriwise7217 I have 2 of them and unfortunately they both have issues and need to be overlooked by a tech. I've tried amp tests on both and ran into issues
I have a USA made 12' L7 rated @ 750RMS, Which punch would you run this single woofer? I have a P3002 order but thinking to get a Punch 500 which is rated at 4 ohms 500watts RMS
+Jeff DaChef yes! I'm especially interested in the Alpine V-Drive units which are said to have 50 watts per channel. They do require a 10GA power lead direct to the battery, so they may be legit
12 volts to the power supply should result in 36 watts max at the 4 ohm speaker before clipping. Assume 70% efficiency and the rms wattage should be about 18 watts. A better chip amp design should yield that 22 watts rms.
Hey, I just acquired a 91 Grand Marquise in New Condition 56K miles, I wanna upgrade the Factory Speakers, with some JL 6x9 and 5.25, What Amp would you recommend? I was looking at a Punch 600a4
Bought a cheap RF300X4 Prime. It's like a $120 4-Channel spec'd at 75W RMS per chanel @ 2 OHMS, but does over 100W per channel at 2 OHMS and around 75W per at 4OHM, making it perfect for my 75W RMS 4 OHM speakers. It's crazy how good Rockford used to be, but their amps still make more than rated power, even the cheap ones.
Dereck Have you ever tested the the wattage power of the Rockford Fosgate punch 1000DB mono channel amp? I believe it was produced around from the year 2000, it looks just like the one in this video but I believe it was one of there first attempts going digital? Sorry if im wrong about that but I just love the old school amps, I run this amp in the 400 watt version for my mids and the 1000 watt mono channel for my old school JL audio W3 12inch subs and let me tell you that old school Fosgate moves those 12's like no other! Anyways thanks for the reply when you get a chance. Trevor
@@terrykelley6702 unfortunately the install is on hold for right now since I work part time and go to school but I’m saving the funds to get the wiring I need to install it and will be running it to some Kicker CS series 6.5 coaxiales until I have the money for some RF T1 6.5 components.
I heard that. I'm in the middle of building my boxes and amp rack and all that and it's very slow going when you want to really make sure you get it right. Just keep Focus man and this build has been going on with me for almost a year myself.
I've had to save and go as the money allows myself and it sucks when you really want to do it so bad but the money stops you. I got two brand-new l710 kickers 125 apiece and that's how I buy my equipment so it takes me a long time as well
@@anthonyc9261 those damn components ought to scream. I just found a set of old old school JBL components for the front of my truck and had to put them on layaway. Brand new in box that I'm going to run my 4oo a4 to.
Thanks for the videos. They all are great for reference. Appreciate your time. Question, I just purchased an 800a2. I’ve read that a 60amp fuse if recommended. What size fuse should I use at the battery for my setup? I’ll be using that amp for full range with two 12” Delta Pro’s as well as a JL XD600/6 with four 6.5 for highs. Any help would be helpful. Thanks in advanced.
Wassup!? Did you ever by chance do a PPI PC2600 chrome dome? I looked but didn't see one. Thinking about getting rid of mine but not sure.. A dyno might change my mind
Thanks for the comment, it sounds really good, prefer it to my old dual amp setup, set the gains with the dd1 as before but much louder...no complaints here
Hey mister old school stereo. I talked to u about my autotek model 222 awhile back and I was wondering if you would be up for testing on ur channel for your viewers and for me to know what it does? If not I understand. thanks Chad
Back in the day, we referred to these RF Punch amps as TOL "Cheater" amps, because they always pushed waaay harder then rated! Cool video and cool vintage punch amp. My buddy has this one but no endcaps for it, mfr has had it for like 10yrs and never had it hooked up! But the bagger refuses to sell it, or even much let ya even look at it! What a dick is what I think..
bro will you test the rockford Fosgate punch p250.2 the one with all the settings terminals rca inputs etc. that are one front of the amp I want to know how much that amp really puts out
hey big d I just got one of these amps that was never even used. the punch knob on the rear channel fell off but I am using it for my mids and highs. the amp runs super hot much hotter than my hcca 5000.1d I added a fan lowered the gains more and it seems fine now. I know that is probably operating temperature because I have heard they run hot. very impressed with the results. I have mine on 4 re audio xxx 6.5s and they scream. I have the amp running at 2 ohms as well so that probably attributes to heat. I keep my voltage with 5 batteries and 200 amp alt close to 13 at full tilt. BIG D SORRY FOR THE CAPS BUT CAN YOU PLEASE TEST THE NEW VERSION OF THE HCCA 5000.1D??? I WILL SHIP YOU MINE IF YOU DO AN AMP DYNO ON IT. NO ONE HAS THE RESULTS AND EVERYONE IS DOUBTING THAT IT CAN DO 5K AT 1 OHM. PLEASE SIR AND SORRY AGAIN FOR ALL THE CAPS. I really enjoy watching the amp dynos.
I have 2 of these beasts one overheated this summer I want to fix it but I don’t know how it’s up on eBay for 160$ right now it still powers on but no sound coming out of rear output . I also have an 800a2 a power 1000bda1 and a power 1100a2 . Best amps ever . Then I have an 801s and a p8002 but it needs to get fixed and the 801s needs the remote wire hookup resoldered it’s loose as hell . I’m getting rid of a couple things if anyone is interested the 801s and the broken 800a4 I’m getting rid of as of now . Might consider selling the 800a2 .
BigDWiz I have one but one of the rca’s inputs is loose sometimes you have to wiggle it to get both subs to play but other than that it’s fine if you want to work something out I can send it to you to test .
@BigDwiz: love ur videos i have a big ? That im not real sure about. I have 2 punch 800a2 power 4 10" alpine type R dvc2ohm. Punch 800a4 powering 4sets of 6.5 jbl gto an 600a4 powering 4 4" an 4 3.5 jbl gto. What im needing to know is batteries u would recommend for this size system . Starting battery plus second if needed. Please help stuck at a stand still.
I bought a Rockford punch 800a2 for 50$, best purchase of my life!
frank Solis me too lol
frank Solis got a punch power 250.1 for $65 sick little amp
Me too, chrome edition! Can't image how 1100a2 would sound cause this 800 is a beast!
@@urosb82 love my 800@2 had it almost 15 years. Still kicking
Wise decision. I own one and had it two years and it does a great job
BEST RF AMPS BEFORE THEY OUTSOURCED TO CHINA
I think they went to malaysia
We'll just say asia for arguments sake.😋
what about doing a comparison video between old school and new school amps? things like part quality, heat sink, sound quality, wattage, stable ohm loads, reliability, cost, how and why they changed over the years. just in your general opinion to show us what makes these amps so great
+indopleaser have some plans for this...
Loving this idea!
Gotta do it D!
@@wal i second this comment i love the old rockford amps even tho now they cost more than the new ones with more power they just don't look as cool as the old Darth Vader amps
not surprised at all...Rockford's amps have always been great...
+Ryan Moore Ain't dat da truf?
I really like your videos of all your oldschool - RF- Amps! Thanks for that. Today i also have a small collection of: 200DSM, 200 ix, 2 x power 250M, 60ix , 60X2, 40ix , 500a2 and some Punch status displays. Im proud of owning two of the 250M from around 1996, one was blown and smoking , but it took me less than 10$ of spareparts to fix it. Now they work like new. when you link these beasts, you have 1945 watts on 2 ohms!!
In 1995 the punch 40ix was my first " real " amp ( 699 german marks ) and i had it running on 2 ohms mono ( two eminence ECV10 in pushpull ) for several years - no problems at all.
I found an older article of an audio magazine from italy where they did some tests with the power 50M and power 250M. They had the power 50M running at 0.125 ohm, that were 32 10" woofers.
I am still surprised how clean and powerful the punch 60 sounds today. I use them for bluetooth-toolbox-boombox-projects :-) They easily outperform the expensive-boombox-stuff available today, but you need a big battery!
Do you know if the 200 DSM has a little more power than the 200 ix?
The specs say 400 watts mono 4 ohms with 11.9 battery volts . the newer 200 ix is also 400 Watts 4 ohms mono, but specified at 12.6 battery volts. should not be a big difference..
Greetings from germany :-)
Man I start out with a RF 40ix didn't know what I had until I started to see the black and grey ones. Came up on another older rf amp for tweeters and then 2 years later I found the greyand bronze 50.2 and a power 250.1 I loved those amps so cool looking and rhey took everything I throw at them. When I had off time during college I would just go in the stereos shops in the bay area and just look at all the stuff they had back then all made Un usa power. Miss those days saved up money for gas and beats. I had to do all the installs myself so I they were crude but did the job. Old school RF forever trying to find a 800.4 to put in my convertible to run components loud. 😅
RF solid as always!
+hifivega True dat!
I have a RF 800a2 and it does a great job. You can't beat them old school RF's
I miss my punch 500! !
Wow! And another awesome video from BigD!
Love your stuff, D. "Oooold schoooool". I have a soft side for RF. That's the brand that started it for me back in '98. I remember a 120a2 would rattle my buddy's Tiburon apart when testing my two 12" Kicker FreeAir subs. That was some tight bass for such a small amp. He also had a JVC El Kameleon head unit. It was cool, hah! Ahh, good times! Now I got two chrome Punch 500.2 from '98. One has the original receipt for $1399.95. That's CRAZY! I did miss the REAL old-school, because I was too young to care prior to '97. Which is why I now catch up with your channel. :)
+SOC 7 I'm going to Dyno test the Punch "Power" 500.2 very soon. Very strong amp, virtual clone to the Power 1100a2
+Dereck BigDWiz Cool! Can't wait.
@@wal did you test the 500.2 ? Didnt find any video. only the 1100a2
@@Broxine Yes I did, just didn't video it. It's basically the same as the 1100a2
Williston Audio Labs ok thanks
I remember back in the days only amps we could get our hands on in a little town in florida..Was them sherwood amps we thought we really had something till we were introduced to Rockford Fosgate and it changed our whole world...Back in the 88,89 dayz..lol
+mud flap Yeah, I used Alphasonik PMA-2100 as my first amp, then got a hold of a Punch 150 and it completely blew me away. Been a huge fan ever since!
Remember when everyone had those blue jensen amps? They weren't really that horrible. Got VERY hot though. Do you have any of them lying around?
Been getting my collection up of Old School Rockford Power.
Currently have:
A2 Series-
Punch 800a2 w/ end caps Original Warranty Stickers still in tact( Selling on Ebay atm)
Power 800a4 w/ end caps Original Warranty Stickers still in tact(Year 2000 only A4 with 4 Gauge )
Power 1100a2 Was only opened to check serial number ; emblem was off and couldn't verify the model number(Type 6 Heatsink used in several models). This was actually tested by a Rockford engineer.
.2 Series:
Power 800.2
BD Series:
Power 1001BD
Am in the process of sending all except the 1100a2 to be tested by rockford. I would love to have them on the show once I know they are stable and wont fault in the RUclips spotlight lol.
Subwoofers:
1999 Power DVC 12" Model Number RFR-2212(1000 watts RMS; 2000 Peak), In a single sealed 12" enclosure. This would be a fun one as well, the voice coil is ridiculous. This sub is in very good condition.
Big thanks to D wiz for all the effort and dedication to the old school. Gotta love how the amp dyno really clears the air full of myths and false legends. Old school stereo shows you who the real McCoys are.
so you did send them in ?
i still havea 500.2 power in chrome housing. looks sick
Great video dude! I have been waiting for a real dyno test of one of these. I Still have my old school RF Power 800a2 and Power 800a4 running in my Scion Xb (third car they have been in) with my Pioneer P80prs (thanks for that great video too) as the source. They have been rock solid amps and I always knew they had balls bigger than the birth sheet said.
+roadkillraker awesome, thanks for watching and commenting 👍
thank you for responding. i have an 800a2 that amazingly enough i bought at an estate sale for 10 bucks. i took it home wired it up and it works. talk about score!!! i currently use the amp in my truck. it works just fine. on these amp dynos you guys are dropping the ohm loads down to number i never even heard of(hahahaa) i am in the process of redesigning my system and i would truly like to see some safe numbers i could play with. by the way i believe it was you who had the showroom of old amps brought back some good memories hell it even put a lump in my throat. thanks again
Super score!! I did test the power version of the 800a2 a while back. I can check the sheet and let you know
that would be great. any reliable info would be appreciated
@@wal i would also like to see the results of that test i have a punch 800a2
fosgate was the shit in the old days
They still are.
Still is
I used to run one of these older Rockford amps. It was a 250ish watt 2 channel. That thing was a beast.
Wow, haven't seen those in forever! Back in high school around 99' I had a RF punch 400a4 and two 360a2. The birth sheets on the 360a2's were both around 560 watts. My '95 Ford Taurus might not have been the coolest car high school but damn did it sound good! Lol!
Had a power 800a4 running two hx2 10s at 2 ohm stereo and fnQ 6&tweets, fnQ 5&tweets, and 2 pairs of fanaticQ 4's all w 24db passives high and low on the mids..running on the other two channels in my 95 silverado for damn near 10 years... never a problem... killer amps
One of the best amps I’ve ever had , I ran Tri-Mode / two 3-way cerwin Vega 6x9’s and one 12’ cerwin Vega svc 4ohm
I had the Rockford Fosgate Punch 200W Mono. Excellent amplifier.
Just got one of those today I've always wanted one for the longest
I just now got one also I've wanted one for decades and the newer class d amps are smaller more efficient and can make more power but they dont look this cool doing it
I still have this amp. used to have 2 12" JL Audio 12WO-8 that I was popping over & over. didn't even have the amp at full power. finally got 2 Lanzars HRWDC12 & then my problem was over. Friend of mine explained my problems, car shop had no knowledge
Love this channel just seeing all the old school power house amps from the early 90s. Im 45 now and still love car audio. My prize car was 87 Mustang Gt that had 22 speakers in it. My amps of choice then were Precision Power Art series and HiFonics colossus. Man that car could know off trash cans.. I do mexhanic work on and sometimes people have no idea what these monster things are and be like can u take it out and fix the radio..so i have a nice collection of some oldies RF, Kicker, Blade, Us Amps...my current ride is a new charger rt it has nice alpine factory system but when i blow it up i will be sneaking my army of monsters in the trunk. Thanks for your work playa
+Mike Woobie awesome, that sounds like a sweet setup! Thanks for watching and commenting 👍
I had this amp in my first car, running a 15" Cerwin Vega DVC subwoofer and then when that died it ran 2 x 12" Rockford Fosgate DVC subwoofers. Sounded great!!
+Kuldip Panesar nice setup. I don't think 4ch amps get the credit they deserve for powering subs. I used them for years in 3ch mode, front channels powering components and rear channels bridged to sub(s) 👍
Hey +bill pruett, mine was a CV 154 from 2001, still pumped though, i was lucky to have it replaced under warranty (from the UK) when it burnt out it's coil. Great to meet other like minded people :) Absolutely loved the sound produced by the 15 never got that same sound from any other sub that I had afterwards.
I sure do appreciate what you do BigD..ive got the "Power" version of this same amp and been putting the wood to my Boston Pro series 6.5s
for a few years now...im certain the power series numbers are similar to the punch series..so now i have an idea of where my numbers are at.
now im OUTTA HEEEEERE
+herbyverstink I tested one of the Power 800's before, can't recall if it was the 800a2 or 800a4. I'll check on that...
I wish Fosgate still made these series just like this Design and power also a limited Edition Alma Gates edition she was legendary for Fosgate.
First half of sentence 👍, second half 🤦♂️
Fosgate for the win big D Wiz
I just scored one of these, a power 500@2 and two HE2'S tens from a used car here at work. When we get trade in's one of our jobs is to refurbish the car back to original . We got a suburban in and I spied this right away and within minutes I had everything stripped out . The funny thing is about three days later some one ( previous owner ) jacked the truck and drove it across the street to meet up with another truck to unload all the Rockford stuff that was sitting in my tool box 🤣😂🤣😂🤣. Not to mention all the warranty seals are still intact and since everything was pro-ish installed in this 2001 burban it was all in like new condition......cost me 0 bucks 😎
Nice going Stinger coming thru with the wiring! Thinking of getting one of their Cap's.
Yes, their support was much appreciated 🤙
I have two RF Power series 600.4 on my twelve 6.5s, which are also RF team components. Couldn't ask for a better amp. Only way I'd take them out my car is to get the 1000.4 series.
Rock solid amp!!
I had 2 801s and matching 4 channel was a awesome first setup.. wish i still had them
Those and the Flash Gordon belt buckle looking ones were so good
Rockford for the win!
Badass amp.
Old school monster!
+Eric Patterson Yessir! Going to try the Power 1100a2 and Punch Power 500.2's in the near future.
Has the near future arrived yet BigD? I'm dying to see what one of my Power 1100a2 will do on the dyno. I have two of them, one on each sub at the moment, wired to 2 ohms mono each... (I have seen your short Dynamic 1 ohm vid, 3,000+ watts is impressive, but would love to see a full dyno video!)
So nice to see a test on this amp. I have one of these I bought in '99, still in plastic, never used, lol. One of these years I should use it. 😂😂😂
+Christopher Gott wow, better late than never 😱
800a4 or 800a2?
@@justinkelsey9218 800@4
Great video. I have a 360a2 that I know is putting out more than rated power also!
I had the old 360.6 amp those were the days
I have two 400a4 I would love to know their output on.
Thought this was a Steve Meade video until I started watching lol
+Rex _ Not sure how to take that comment, but thanks anyway for watching, lol
Dereck BigDWiz He's just a big Fosgate head. Love your videos.
+Rex _ No doubt. He's a cool cat too! Shares my vids all the time to help me get views / subs
Beast mode!!! 😨
+Danny Caballero not bad for a little RF amp :-O
Im still looking for my 50m and 50.2 old Rockford amp loved them
Nice amps!
Love the BigDWiz vidoes! My fav! Have you ever dyno'd an old school Punch 240.4 ? I still have an original owner RFG-1240 Punch 240.4 from '97 with the box. Wondering how it's 30w/CH really does.
back in my teens i had the 800a2 powering 2 cerwin vegas 12s in parallel. the amp punched through 8 sets of speakers and was still strong. then the day came when she died.
+Ben Dover how is your sister, Eileen?
Dereck BigDWiz maybe wrong ben dover i dont have a sister Eileen
+Ben Dover ha ha, that was a joke bud. I leaned over 😝
Great vid man! What do you feel a 600a5 in perfect working condition and nearly mint condition is worth these days? Complete with both end caps of course and the info sticker on the bottom of the amp is still like new. Also on a side note, the measurements in that brochure don't include the end caps. My 600.a5 is 18 1/8" at the widest point(bottom).
Prob around 200
I have one of these in my closet... still has the end caps. I got it to drive 4 polk 6x9's in a previous car that I traded in. I kept the amp, but was too lazy to pull the speakers. I had tried a sony 4x70, Massive Audio 4x100, but neither could run them for very long at a decent volume without shutting down. The RF would drive them all day long.
love them old Rockford amps had a punch 200ix on two buy one get one free Rockford Fosgate tens from Best Buy on the Left Channel at 2 ohms and two buy one get one free Rockford twelves on the right Channel at 2 ohms and was hitting a 142.3 on the floor board with passenger door open in a 87 Nissan King Cab. and was hitting 139 with the cab sealed. hard to believe how much output you can get out of a 400 watt amp and some cheap speakers
+MrFARTSANDWICH I personally prefer the look of the DSM series to these "a" series, but they are growing on me...Awesome results from RF amps BTW
I'm working my way to the 1200A2
Could you do a Rockford Fosgate punch 400a4?
hahaha I ran this amp and a bd1000a1 back in....2000? Good shit.
There’s one of these for sale locally (not gonna say what site…lol) for $50 bucks. Gonna try and grab it today before it gets bought by someone who won’t appreciate it.
Yeah that’s a dealio!
Great video!
+Justin Gardner Thanks for watching and commenting!
I've had several RF amp's back in the day. RF included a "Birth Certificate" with every amp, showing it's actual measured power before being packaged. Not sure if they still do that or not.
They still come with these "birth sheets". Only a few companies do this, RF is one of them continuing this tradition (Kicker as well).
Wish you could have ran it with the wired remote. All I done was plug it in, and run it to the front. I could barely turn it half way, no changes to any settings.
Question, this was one of a few amps I could reverse bridge, others would go into safety mode. What happens when you reverse bridge, when several people seen how it was bridged, they would sort of freak out, saying I was going to burn it up.
Big D i want to see you put an 800a2 on the dyno im sure it would get plenty of views ... ill send u mine
I’ve got one here and will test it soon 👍
I would love to see the dyno on the 800@2 as well
@@toriwise7217 I have 2 of them and unfortunately they both have issues and need to be overlooked by a tech. I've tried amp tests on both and ran into issues
I have 5 851x which is the same and I love them
I have a USA made 12' L7 rated @ 750RMS, Which punch would you run this single woofer? I have a P3002 order but thinking to get a Punch 500 which is rated at 4 ohms 500watts RMS
Hey bud, Have you ever thought about putting head units to the amp dyno? Do head units really make their "22" watts rms per channel.
+Jeff DaChef yes! I'm especially interested in the Alpine V-Drive units which are said to have 50 watts per channel. They do require a 10GA power lead direct to the battery, so they may be legit
The "22" watt RMS per channel head units, or at least Pioneer, are only 14w RMS per channel clean
12 volts to the power supply should result in 36 watts max at the 4 ohm speaker before clipping. Assume 70% efficiency and the rms wattage should be about 18 watts. A better chip amp design should yield that 22 watts rms.
Hey, I just acquired a 91 Grand Marquise in New Condition 56K miles, I wanna upgrade the Factory Speakers, with some JL 6x9 and 5.25, What Amp would you recommend? I was looking at a Punch 600a4
How you bridged it. On manual shows different than how you did it. It shows vice versa on manual
Bought a cheap RF300X4 Prime. It's like a $120 4-Channel spec'd at 75W RMS per chanel @ 2 OHMS, but does over 100W per channel at 2 OHMS and around 75W per at 4OHM, making it perfect for my 75W RMS 4 OHM speakers. It's crazy how good Rockford used to be, but their amps still make more than rated power, even the cheap ones.
Have the 200a4 and 500a2...beast..
Yep, I had to 800a2 monster of an amp
I used to have one of those and the the matching 1000a1. I sold them,and regret it to this day. :(
U could always buy one on ebay for a million dollars
@@justinkelsey9218 they go for a lot nowadays.
Dereck
Have you ever tested the the wattage power of the Rockford Fosgate punch 1000DB mono channel amp? I believe it was produced around from the year 2000, it looks just like the one in this video but I believe it was one of there first attempts going digital?
Sorry if im wrong about that but I just love the old school amps, I run this amp in the 400 watt version for my mids and the 1000 watt mono channel for my old school JL audio W3 12inch subs and let me tell you that old school Fosgate moves those 12's like no other!
Anyways thanks for the reply when you get a chance.
Trevor
+quickcp1 I believe I have tested the 1000BD, but will need to check my Dyno sheets
Best double din head unit and speaker system with a subwoofer for a 2006 f150 crew cab
+Cody Albertson wut
also this one is a power 800a2 takes 4 gauge power wires is there a diference in wattage being dat this one is a power series
best amps ever!!!
+Jorge Morales thanks for watching and commenting
I just got one of these off E-Bay for $400 can’t wait to set it up!
I just got my 800a2 and I'm going to run to L7 10 kickers with it. Have you hooked it up man what are you got it running on and look and sound like?
@@terrykelley6702 unfortunately the install is on hold for right now since I work part time and go to school but I’m saving the funds to get the wiring I need to install it and will be running it to some Kicker CS series 6.5 coaxiales until I have the money for some RF T1 6.5 components.
I heard that. I'm in the middle of building my boxes and amp rack and all that and it's very slow going when you want to really make sure you get it right. Just keep Focus man and this build has been going on with me for almost a year myself.
I've had to save and go as the money allows myself and it sucks when you really want to do it so bad but the money stops you. I got two brand-new l710 kickers 125 apiece and that's how I buy my equipment so it takes me a long time as well
@@anthonyc9261 those damn components ought to scream. I just found a set of old old school JBL components for the front of my truck and had to put them on layaway. Brand new in box that I'm going to run my 4oo a4 to.
I wonder what an 800a2 does bridged at 8 ohms. I have it hooked to one p3 12 wired to 8 ohms and I swear it sounds like 700 watts
I have to admit that I expected a few hundred more watts in dynamic mode. That's usually RF's forte.
+Mickey Pietrzak I'm betting the 2ch version does! MTX 4ch amps were the same way, not quite as impressive as similarly fused 2ch models
+Dereck BigDWiz Yeah, that makes sense.
I have an 800a4 but I only have single power/ground inputs. is mine an older model than the 99?
I have a punch 800a2 was wondering if u could test one so I know what kind of ture power I'm getting
I as well I've been waiting on D to get one so I can see the results.
Thanks for the videos. They all are great for reference. Appreciate your time. Question, I just purchased an 800a2. I’ve read that a 60amp fuse if recommended. What size fuse should I use at the battery for my setup? I’ll be using that amp for full range with two 12” Delta Pro’s as well as a JL XD600/6 with four 6.5 for highs. Any help would be helpful. Thanks in advanced.
100A for both should be sufficient
Thanks. Appreciate the advice and your time. Again. Thanks for taking time out and making these videos.
800a.2
Wassup!?
Did you ever by chance do a PPI PC2600 chrome dome? I looked but didn't see one. Thinking about getting rid of mine but not sure.. A dyno might change my mind
+stresstest no sir, have not, but I'm always getting in different amps to test, so stay tuned, you never know 😊
Why there is 2 battery and ground input? Can I use one battery and one ground only?
i've recently had a 600a5 given, running 2 sets of components and a punch hx2
+Martin Testo awesome amp for a complete system ✌️
Thanks for the comment, it sounds really good, prefer it to my old dual amp setup, set the gains with the dd1 as before but much louder...no complaints here
forgot to ask u bridged or one speaker per channel i should hook it up
I currently have the power 800a2 and the power 800a4 for sale. Make me a price ?
Chauncey Marsh u still have both of those amps for sale
Hey mister old school stereo. I talked to u about my autotek model 222 awhile back and I was wondering if you would be up for testing on ur channel for your viewers and for me to know what it does? If not I understand. thanks Chad
That thing clean lol have a few of these in my collection great amp
+Edwin Rodriguez not my favorite series of OS RF amps, but they are growing on me...
Dereck BigDWiz what's your favorite one
Have you tested the POWER800a4 ?
HEY BIG D! what is the difference between the "power 800a4" and the Punch 800a4. They look identical
I heard one was designed for bestbuy to sell dont know if its true or not.
Back in the day, we referred to these RF Punch amps as TOL "Cheater" amps, because they always pushed waaay harder then rated! Cool video and cool vintage punch amp. My buddy has this one but no endcaps for it, mfr has had it for like 10yrs and never had it hooked up!
But the bagger refuses to sell it, or even much let ya even look at it! What a dick is what I think..
How does this compare to the MS2125 PG ? What’s the most powerful amps old Vs new ?
bro will you test the rockford Fosgate punch p250.2 the one with all the settings terminals rca inputs etc. that are one front of the amp I want to know how much that amp really puts out
Nice. I'm waiting for a response on buying this or the 2 ch cousin for $100 ~ $140
Can you test a punch p250.2 the all black model with the indicator lights on top of the amp? I see the p325.1 but no p250.2 thanks
hey big d I just got one of these amps that was never even used. the punch knob on the rear channel fell off but I am using it for my mids and highs. the amp runs super hot much hotter than my hcca 5000.1d I added a fan lowered the gains more and it seems fine now. I know that is probably operating temperature because I have heard they run hot. very impressed with the results. I have mine on 4 re audio xxx 6.5s and they scream. I have the amp running at 2 ohms as well so that probably attributes to heat. I keep my voltage with 5 batteries and 200 amp alt close to 13 at full tilt. BIG D SORRY FOR THE CAPS BUT CAN YOU PLEASE TEST THE NEW VERSION OF THE HCCA 5000.1D??? I WILL SHIP YOU MINE IF YOU DO AN AMP DYNO ON IT. NO ONE HAS THE RESULTS AND EVERYONE IS DOUBTING THAT IT CAN DO 5K AT 1 OHM. PLEASE SIR AND SORRY AGAIN FOR ALL THE CAPS. I really enjoy watching the amp dynos.
Send me an email bigdwiz (at) gmail dot com
+Dereck BigDWiz just sent it to you sir. thank you
i have mine dude the punch 800.4 maybe 2000 model, whats the difference between this? thanks .. im in Philippines
I have 2 of these beasts one overheated this summer I want to fix it but I don’t know how it’s up on eBay for 160$ right now it still powers on but no sound coming out of rear output . I also have an 800a2 a power 1000bda1 and a power 1100a2 . Best amps ever . Then I have an 801s and a p8002 but it needs to get fixed and the 801s needs the remote wire hookup resoldered it’s loose as hell . I’m getting rid of a couple things if anyone is interested the 801s and the broken 800a4 I’m getting rid of as of now . Might consider selling the 800a2 .
Do you know why they change the Power 1100a2 name to Power 1000a2? It is the same amp, right? And do you know Maverick Street amp (HZ1000 model)??
you found ut why the change ?
How can I get a 1999 magazine buying guide like you have?
do you by any chance have a rf 800 a2 laying around you could test?
The one I have needs work
BigDWiz I have one but one of the rca’s inputs is loose sometimes you have to wiggle it to get both subs to play but other than that it’s fine if you want to work something out I can send it to you to test .
@BigDwiz: love ur videos i have a big ? That im not real sure about. I have 2 punch 800a2 power 4 10" alpine type R dvc2ohm. Punch 800a4 powering 4sets of 6.5 jbl gto an 600a4 powering 4 4" an 4 3.5 jbl gto. What im needing to know is batteries u would recommend for this size system . Starting battery plus second if needed. Please help stuck at a stand still.
I would love to see a video on the t-1000bd
ok thanks
I want to see some old school crunch vu series the big ass blue amps
hi you can made a dynoamp of soundigital 800.4 4 ohms? thanks
Hey big d wiz I have 2 , 150a2 amplifiers from that same year I might sent you one to try on the dyno for me lol