Why was this 50W amp $500 back in 1996? Rockford Fosgate Power 50x2
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Rockford Fosgate Punch Power 50x2
Rated to deliver:
25x2 at 4 ohms
50x2 at 2 ohms
100x2 at 1 ohm or
100W bridged at 4 ohms
200W bridged at 2 ohms
Original MSRP $499 USD in 1996
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0:35 1996 Rockford Fosgate
0:56 Features and Specs
2:24 Amp Dyno Tests
8:16 Subwoofer Demo
10:38 What's Inside?
11:31 Pros and Cons
12:46 Extras
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my oldest brothers rockford fosgate system looked just like a waffle iron idk what year those came out or what wattage lik 500X1 500X2 he had a r.f. tweeters r.f. front speakers and i think back to and r.f. 10" or 12" speaker i forgot what code number it was because this was back in the early 2000's era so things changed a whole lot
I had a cheater amp in my first system but it was a bit newer. I think it was a punch power 50.1. It would get hot after a couple hours of hard playing but it didn't die on me. I had an orion 4 channel running my mids and it died during the same time period, it couldn't take the abuse a teenager put it through lol. I just spent all day yesterday working on my system, installed a Rockford prime 300x4. I went with ct sounds speakers and jbl gto tweets. I need to build a sub box next.
I had a punch 100ix that I paid 425 for back in 1995 or 1996. Was a fortune at that time. Powered all sorts of subs. 2-12's 1-15. Always performed. Even in the winter it would get hot and then when it would cool the amp would get covered in layers of frost. Never had one single problem. Miss those old school amps.
@rustytr or apple. 2400 I to apple back then...man...what could have been.
I had a punch 60 around then. Always pounded.
I remember when the 100ix amp went on clearance at Magnolia HiFi for $149ea and I bought their remaining inventory. Also got fourteen A/D/S 8” and nine 10” for $25ea/$45ea. Turned around and made a killing on resale at a weekend IASCA event.
Almost 30 years later and this thing is still impressive. 👏
Rockford was the social standard in my neighborhood. Lol
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I was still using my old Punch 2 channel for a Pair of 6x9's in boxes up until last year.. that thing was clean and loud - and I beat the piss out of it for years...
@@BabyCharlotteschannel I donated my old punch 45 to my son’s pick up truck. Same thing, it’s pushing a old set of pioneer 6x9’s. That thing is still kicking!
Weak output for the money. It was just a cheater amp to compete in the low wattage catergories. Run 2 @ 2 ohm mono on a pair of 8” mid bass and horns. 100 watts total
I ran a 4 and a 2 channel in this series back in the day. They sold a heat sink section to join multiples together as one long amp. I left off the end caps, painted all white and used a panel to reveal only the sink fins. Loved that look and sound!
I think amps from the 90’s are still the best amps out there.
I had a 40 punch with two 12" inch kickers in a closed box.and Kenwood deck... very, very impressive!! Quality 😎👍
I had a Rockford back in high school. I think it was the punch 100. That thing was freaking crazy powerful
Still my favorite line of amps. I ran mine at 1ohm bridged the day I bought it and never had an issue.....other than heat.
Like Glenn Fry
love that old RF stuff.... still got my 2 RF amps from the 90s including the punch woofers..... soundquality is still awesome
We had so little power in the 80s and 90s and it sounded soooooo loud back then. Still remember fondly my 4080dsm powering 4 kicker gold 10s and 2 Boston 6x9s in my chevy luv lowrider. Had to be my favorite system I've ever owned. So loud so clear and I didn't need 1000s of watts to get there like today.
It is crazy to think just how clean and loud our old stuff was! I don't know exactly what made it that good but my goodness it was so awesome!
CDs instead of streaming helps the quality
It’s crazy how my 500 watt system sounded better than my 3500 watt system now. I’m probably just looking back on it fondly but I swear it seams like it was the loaders thing I ever heard!
@@BassDad what's the weird thing to me is how much further the sound traveled back then vs now. 250watts in my mini truck could be heard for 2 blocks. Now with 2500 watts and much larger drivers my system doesnt carry as far. I know some is do to sound deadener but I just dont hear the punchy bass we had back in the early days. Efficientcy, fs, I'm not sure what it is about todays woofers. I'll still take the old stuff over the new.
@@trecedaves3159 totally agree
I'm familiar with Punch from the early 90's. The generation of amps before they added those end-caps. The legendary Punch 45. I remember one little Punch 45 EASILY pushing two 12's without a hitch.
Bought a punch 75 in '91 or 92 and at one point had it on a pair of cerwin vega 6x9's. Man did it rock.
I still got my old 800A2 she's a beast!
running it 2 ohm bridged you couldn't even touch it (rated 4 ohm max) but never let me down
I stil have my old bd1500.1-- when I get rid of a vehicle, the amp comes out.
I always ran Rockford Fosgate back in the 90's, starting with the Punch 150. That thing slammed! If I recall, the birth certificate said it was 306 watts, bridged. The Damping Factor was crazy good on their amps. I ran a pair of 12" Cerwin Vegas in a vented enclosure in the trunk of my 86 Cougar. When I played the Metallica black album, it could throw the loose change out of my center console.
Curious, why isn’t RF used as much as it used to be used ?
@@TheDudeInTheWild007 you seen the prices of RF? It's ridiculous just isn't competitive price/watt anymore
I still have my bd1000 and working very good up till now 15 years and going strong love old school Rockford amp best channel best information bro
I ran a Punch 60IX back in the day. It was bridged on a singe 12” JL. It hit pretty hard in my Civic Si Hatch fed by my brand new Kenwood KDC9000. Man those were the days.
My friendly neighborhood drug dealer was a big basshead back in the days. His wife and my wife were friends and we would ride around and he would show off his latest build. He always had the latest and greatest and would be selling off anything from his shed of audio equipment. I got one of these amps and a couple of 12" round Solo Barics in truck boxes all in near mint condition for next to nothing off of him and ran it for quite a while. That amp got down hard
“Friendly neighborhood drug dealer” 😝
Rockford fosgate punch was always my favorite
Long live my Rockford 250a2 and Dual Punch XLC's. Best setup for a HS kid back in '99!
Man this channel brings back some good 'ol memories
I've had the old Punch 40s and 60s made by Rockford Fosgate. As well as the Fosgate series one subs. Top notch. Those little amps are the ones with the chip cards you'd manually remove and put in one way for high pass and the other for low pass.
I used to have a Punch Power 75.2 back in my high school days. Super solid amp and with a pair of 10" RF subs it hit way above what friends were running from other companies
ive had a few of these punch amplifiers over the years. and still have a 60x2 and a 200x2. solid built, simple and with lots of power. i used to know a lad that had a box built at wheel sounds, it housed 2 12" precision devices subs and run off a little punch 40x2. that thing was a real bass machine.
Those Punch Apps was the best Amps ever made I hade a Punch 500 mono block pushing 3 JL Audio W6 10’s
those mid 90s amps were powerhouses. I miss my Memphis 1000d.
Installed one of these bridged to an 8" Kicker sealed sub in my Volvo 240 DL in 96. Drove that for years and never had any issues with the amp.
I had a Rockford Power 300 back about 1990. I think it cost me over $1000. My friend had the power 650 and it was sooooo powerful.
I had the Trans Ana 40x2 back in the day loved it!!
Always a rockford fosgate fan. I have the 50M Power. Old school rocks.
The Punch amps were so underrated!! Rockford Fosgate and Orion Audio were the pinnacle of car audio back in the 90's!! Fun times!
Really like this video. I remember the first time I heard this amp back in 2002 from a friend of mine. It was hooked up to 2-12" JL Audio W-0 series subs in a Q Logic dual bandpass box in a 2001 Chevy blazer... It was Monster like bass Unbelievable for 2-12s and very tight , quality notes that hit deep hard and accurate. Keep the Great videos coming!!
I have been binging your channel for a week or so. Really appreciate all the great content. I know it takes a ton of time to do all of this and some of the comments are unfortunate. Just want to let you know you are appreciated from NC.
Thanks brother! I have over 650 videos created in the past 10 plus years, so you have quite a bit to choose from! Thanks for the kind words, it's really appreciated!!
Awesome blast for.the past! A buddy had some old punches with the link caps that were Nickle plated running a few 15s
Solid bass! Notice the woofer control in the sub bass frequencies! That's serious damping factor! Nichicon (and Rubycon) are the best electrolytic caps. That's a quality amp there! 😀
Says something when an almost 30yr old amp performs this well…
How many of these Chinese amps will hold up 5 years +. Considering the quality of the components especially the caps. Doubtful.
You can thank the Transnova Circuitry for that damping control 😎
I still have this amp in my mustang with a Kenwood kameleon two W-0 10's and all infinity mids and highs and all monster wiring on everything still sounds killer when you want to drop the top and burn up some backroads
crazy part is they are all close in price but worlds apart in sq . those caps are $4 the kx are $5 from digi-key . personally Nichicon KX Series audio capacitors are the best caps money can buy . i recapped my memphis st-1300d with kx caps and for the $35 its just night and day ! is it zapco z-150.4ap good ...
Amazing amps! My buddy had a Punch 50 I think it was, it was small but that thing pounded the hell out of two 10 inch bandpass in a 91 Honda crx. I couldn't believe the noise that thing made.
I have a 500 from the 90s and it's still going strong
I loved my punch amps and punch subs. I really liked the MB Quarts I had for mids and tweets too. 1000 watts to the 2 12inch punch subs and 600 watts total to the mids and tweets.
A big stinger snap cap to keep it from dimming my headlights.
But I can't remember what else I was using 25-30 years ago.
But I was very happy with it.
I bought one of these and the 100 back in 96 best amp i ever bought!!
is used to ABUST these amps all the way from the punch 40 to the 200 and above from the mid 90's to late 2000's, never had 1 failure, never smoked them due to distortion like todays garbage. SOME OF THE BEST MADE AMPS OF ALL TIME.
I haven't seen one of these in years, thanks Big D🤙
I had one of those amps running some Infinity components, along with a power 1000 running 2, 15" subs in an old Ford Thunderbird. It was a 2.1 system with a big emphasis in the .1. Dang I miss the 90s.
I use these amps a bunch when they were popular or new... Real power.
Makes me miss my old 200x thing was a beast!! Had 3 12” jl audio w0 running off it.
I have one of these and a matching 50m Power. I had the x2 running a pair of 8's, mids and tweets in the kick panels and the 50m running 8 12's at .5ohm in the trunk of my '67 Chevelle.
Man this brings back memories of happier times. '94 I had a Toyota MR2 and loaded it up with a RF Punch100 amp and a pair of RF 10's, lol. Also had a pair of Rockford 1" tweeters, 4" and 6" mids. They weren't that great but the whole thing sounded awesome.
Had a really nice Sony CD head unit. Damn I miss that car.
I used to have one of these and one of the higher wattage ones. I love the way they look how the ends hide the wires. Everything now looks alike. Back then they cared about how it looked and tried to be original. I have probably 10 times the amount of power in my truck now but I swear it doesn’t sound as good as my 400 watt system back in the 90’s.
Dereck, that amp you got right there looks like it’s in great shape. I have seen a lot of these over the years and they are usually beat up with the end caps missing and what not. If you end up selling this one shoot me an email I’ll definitely buy it
I didn’t show but this one was in its original box as well with manual, I believe missing the birth sheet. You can send me an offer WillistonAudio (at) gmail dot com. Not sure I’ll wanna let it go or not 🤔
Good clean power from back in the day 🤘🏾
I had one of these back in the late 90's. Bought it off a guy in high school for $150. I wouldn't pay $500 for it. It was more powerful than what it was rated at but it wasn't really bang for the buck compared to some of the Pioneer amps and Kicker, Soudstream, or Lanzar amps of the times. I ran a 12" Kicker Comp sub in a ported box with this amp bridged 2-ohm mono and it hit pretty good. I had 4 gauge with a circuit breaker ran back to a distribution box in the trunk and put two 8 GA power and ground into the amp. Had a Kenwood eXcelon CD player with 4v preamp outputs. Amp would get hot enough to fry eggs, but I don't remember it ever going into thermal protection like some of my other amps did.
It's dual use! Combo space heater and amp! All you need is a fan and you are set for a winter day at the lake, it thaws all. 😎
I had a punch 40 amp on two old school crunch subs and man they slapped so hard
One of the best amps I ever had.
awesome video ! And love seeing dinosaurs like that still around going strong
These Amps always been great
I had a Punch 200 back in the day with 2 kicker comp 15's. That was the first year they came out with the inverted dust caps.
Hi BigD!! I'm a fan of Rockford Fosgate and these models with this frame for me are the most iconic of the brand, with a frequency response with a differential and that's why I have 2 of these in one of my cars. A big hug from Brazil. 👍👍👍
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Those end caps are heavy. It’s solid metal!! I remember them being so solid
I love the quad box. Especially being a dealer and getting it at cost
Got a Rockford phoenix gold 300x2… works great pushing 2 12in kickers… loud enough pushes them out
I had a Punch 250.1 mono amp back in the late '90s. That little sucker could put out some serious bass, I remember hitting 149.1 on a Dyno run with one 12 inch he2 sub not bad.
I remember that amp! It was a beast..
Ì had two of these back in early 2000 s they made my 15s bump hard
Great video , fosgate old school goodness !! Always impressed ! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Awe yeah!
Nice! Still have my little punch 40 from the same eta stashed away.
2 years ago, I picked up 2 of these, at a local thrift store. The couole that owns the thrift shop, buys out alot of storage units, and i gave them my number, years ago. They call me when they get any audio in their store. Both had one end cap missing on each. Also, one worked perfectly fine and was nice after cleaning. The other powered on, but had some issues. It needed caps, as they were swelled. Recapped the bad one, and it runs my wife's components in both front and rear doors, in her suv and sounds as good as it did new. Threw the other on ebay, with both end caps. Kinda wished I would have kept both.
beastly amps, I had a punch 60 that was absolutely amazing
Back in the 90s I only ran Fosgate amps, had a Punch 200 running four 12s in my Escort GT and you could hear that thing for blocks lol.
I have a Punch 30, a punch 45, and a couple of Punch 150s. These are OLD old school. One of the 150’s and the 30 needs work but the other 150 and the 45 work just fine. In fact, these two amps are late 80’s models. Holla!
Those amps were absolutely amazing back in the day. I used them for my 3 JL 10’s and also for my MB quarts with crossovers the ones with the clear covers lol. You guys in your late 30’s early 40’s know exactly which ones I’m talking about 😂😂
There it is!!! Had 9 of these in an Astro back in 1997. 4 were on mid's and highs (2 1" tweeters, 2 6.5" mid, 2 8" mid bass in each door) and 5 on 12 punch 15's. That powder coat is supposedly ceramic infused for heat transfer, which is why it's silver. These were great "cheater" amps back in the day. Thanks so much for this follow-up review.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
My brother's system back then was a punch 200 for bass and two punch 240×4 i believe for mids and highs it sounded so good and loud as hell. He is still using the mid and high amps but switched to a power 1000 several years ago. At one point before he got the 240's he was running a nakamichi 45×4 for mids and a soundstream dual50 for highs but accidentally spilled his drink on the nakamichi never again did he put amps on the floor under his seats.
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The 250m² and the 500m were really killer amps in their days, I had 2 x 250m² .....still my favourite amp till today.
Ahhhh the good ole days🤤 I had the punch 200 and man oh man I loved it....I have a BP JBL 1200.1 that they don't make anymore I have had it since 07 and have blown a pair of 15" kicker L5's and a pair of 15"L7's needles to say I hate sqaures lol the amp still beats hard AF currently pumping 4 kicker comp 12's definitely one of my favorite amps ever✌🏽
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I had a couple really well made Nakamichi amps in my trunk back in the day .
I had a 2 channel power 50x2 from my days at best buy. When i went to sell it to clear out my garage for $100, i had 12 buyers interested in under 5 minutes. I was shocked how popular these AB amps still were
Oh ya baby, now we're back in my wheelhouse!
I remember how they used to send a printout of that amp's performance, and that always struck me as a quality product. The weight and aesthetic also made me think it was built with quality in mind, they were a nice looking amp. Sadly the only one that I ever owned was the Santa Ana and it developed a problem with one of the channels and got hotter than a frying pan. One thing I didn't like about those early amps was the crossover setup, I thought that circuit board setup was a half ass attempt to integrate a crossover because it was over looked in the initial design.
I just never heard a system with Fosgate amps that I was overly impressed with. I never really thought it was the amp, though. I always felt like they weren't being utilized properly along with poor enclosure designs, leading to a muddy and sloppy sound. All in all, I think Fosgate had it right long before a lot of other companies.
Had a Punch 45HD in My 1984 Chrysler E-Class with 2 12" kicker and Kenwood Deck back in 1994 them was the Dayz.
Thank you Big D another great video. I am a true RF fan
I am not overly impressed with this amp. For around the same price you could get a Thunder 2160 that made way more power.
I had the RF punch 50 pushing two 10’s back in 1997. Loved seeing this!
That amplifier was always a beast.
I had a punch 45 that was square ⬛ it didn't come with end caps that everybody loses. 😲😳
Back in the day when being overrated was common with most amplifiers ... and then came along Rockford Fosgate with the Punch Series.
Epic!
These guys knew how to win over there customers.
I'm looking at a 30-year-old amp and I'm thinking about it being newer than the one that I had. 👴💀 where did that time go?
😏Oh yeah at work.
Thumbs up for an amplifier that I wanted so bad at 17 years old back in 97'. I did have four of the DVC punch tens on 2x punch 40's tho. 😁
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you are the best RUclipsr that tests audio equipment the rest is not even close to your level
Thanks for watching and commenting!
A friend of mine had the 100x2 running 4 x 12s in free air in a sedan back in the 90s. Install was a bit dodgy because they removed half of his parcel tray to fit the subs but it bumped hard.
The answer is right on the back of the amp!!! anyone else see it? I used nothing but fosgate radio equipment back in the day and never had any big issues and if i did it was rectified immediately!!!
RF amps were 🔥🔥🔥🔥 back then… they pushed out some major watts… the only downside was they blew fuses like someone eats skittles… cause of that I ended up going with Linear amps (in my 5.0) to run my two 10” woofers, one to run my 12” Cerwin Vega sub, and the last to run my Kenwood mids and tweeters…
None of those #'s were available back then, but everybody knew Rockford Fosgate kicked ass!
These Rockford Fosgate amplifiers with this type of heat sink always reminded me of a giant aquatic isopod
Timeless beauty!!
Wow, i remember Punch150 was more than enough back then. Back windows breaking....lol
I had the 500 amp just sold it along with two same 15-in subwoofers Rf. I regret selling it now. If I would have kept it it would have just been for looks because it suck so bad at pushing anything nowadays. The Rockford fosgate 15s had the tiniest magnet ever. But it worked perfectly with those. I sold the amp and the speakers for like 160 bucks. I bet if I waited about 5 more years I could have got more money out of it. But it's all good the guy was happy about he probably wanted to keep it as a collection.
I remember having a Kenwood KAC-716 Mono Amp on some dual 12" Orion XTR subs in a sealed box. Would be nice to see that amp on the Dyno.
It’s cool that Rockford gives you a birth sheet with new amps. 8:55
This was the very amp that got me into Rockford Fosgate to begin with. I've had nothing else since.
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Amps back then had incredible damping factors. Damping factor basically boils down to ability to control the speakers.
That is so cool brother them amps make a lot of power
you have great presentation
That style of RF were very amazing 👏 👌 I had Kenne 100x2 and Sony 60x2 they were ok 👌 but those RF's were knocking
I still have this amp in my garage, in a box, stowed away.
Had one of these. Ran it very hard for years. Could have cooked eggs on it but she never let me down!
That’s why it looks like a grill!