Honestly I'm baffled that businesses haven't realized that backgrounds matter. Of course people who understand the industry and consumer will have an intrinsic sense of what to provide; they both acted as consumer and producer and have experienced firsthand the causes and effects of success and failure. It's one of the first rules of employment. Hire sailors to man boats, and hire pilots to man planes; not the other way around. Iwata should have been a blueprint for good leadership at Nintendo, not a unique stroke of luck.
You're looking at these "job" slots as an actual job, and not as a bag of loot for those with all the money and all the power. Why would they NOT want to reward themselves? It's not complicated why a shareholder would want someone like themselves, especially a family member, to get the loot bag. And not some nerd who wrote source for a Pokemon game or something. Or even worse - a person who was poor for five minutes in their lives. They might have caught some empathy for plebs, or something.
@@BMoser-bv6kn If they like making money over the long term, yeah, it's in their best interest to appoint people who are good at the industry. The market keeps punishing them for short-sighted greed. They'll either go out of business or learn.
I feel like Reggie was such a likable figure because he was always in the public eye, front and center of directs, E3 presentations, etc. There’s not many other figures like that in the gaming industry, you’re not going to see the President of Sony showing up for a State of Play. It’s probably the reason why we see Phil Spencer so often nowadays as well.
It kakes sense when Hiroshi Yamauchi (3rd Pres.) went to the US to struck up a deal with Disney back in the 1950's making themed cards using the latter's IP's. That collab propelled Nintendo to a new market aimed at children, arguably becoming a stepping stone towards their current business model...
I've always felt like Nintendo was the Disney of the video game world for multiple reasons and it's interesting watching both of them go down similar paths.
It's not just "Disneyfication", this is what happens when you piss in the blue ocean one too many times. Also didn't help they hired an EA shill for NOA.
@@TISparta217 yeah, I hadn't thought of it until now, but there is something very similar in having awful anti-competitive business on the one hand, and genuinely quality kid-friendly media on the other. The way that builds nostalgia for your IP as your biggest asset. I know they're awful, but love Disney for the renaissance, and I love Nintendo for Pokemon and Zelda.
The existence of Nintendo apologists mostly exist due to how good Nintendo's development branch is. Ever since the they first started developing games the general trend for Nintendo games was quality and innovation. People grew up with and still play their games, because when it comes to games, Nintendo is one of the most consistent developers when it comes to quality The problem however, is that Nintendo is not one big entity with the same mindset throughout. Nintendo's game development branch is WAY different from their executive branch in how they approach their consumers. Because of this, Nintendo apologists want to believe anything with the name "Nintendo" does is inherently good, when this is just not the case. The executive branch of Nintendo holds all of the power and they're the ones making all of the horrible anti-consumer descisions. It's no wonder then, that Iwata was originally just a developer who rose to the top, which explains his differring mindset from all the other presidents and executives.
@Jesus Pernia guess you haven't heard how all the kids are crying that Sony is censoring anime games. Every time a anime looking game is coming to PS you always see switch fanboys saying I'll buy it on switch because Sony will censor it.
Half of nintendo is talented developers creating games that are worth playing and replaying. The other half is a boardroom of old men that are out of touch with everyone in their consumer base. Guess which one has more power.
@@vulgrim909 But Sega as also mentioned in the video does not do this to nearly the same degree as Nintendo in spite of both being from Japan, clearly Nintendo is going beyond what is necessary for their own purposes.
This is such a depressing video for me. The Iwata years were my entire childhood, and I never even knew Iwata's name before now. As much as it makes sense that Nintendo won't get better, I really hope they do. They gave me so much and it hurts to see it ripped away. Thanks Iwata, for making my childhood what it was
You should go watch Did You Know Gaming's Iwata video or Arlo's Goodbye Iwata video. He was a good guy and those videos are both quite emotional. You also learn a ton about him from watching them so I think they're worth watching
There's a lot I love about Nintendo, but there's also a lot of stuff that disappoint me. Nintendo the corporation I see as greedy and not the greatest. But Nintendo the developers / creative team? (Everyone who isn't a higher-up executive) I love those guys and can feel the passion from that side. Iwata and Reggie were one of them before they became CEO and president of the business. I personally see their strengths greater than their weaknesses, but I acknowledge their flaws and hope for their sake they get better executives to better themselves as a corporation. They've become the most successful & beloved Japanese company in the world, they shouldn't ruin such a feat over poor management decisions
That explains why joy con drift has not been fixed. Nintendo doesn't really care about joy con drift, they just keep sliding the problem under the rug and hopes people forget and buy another set of expensive joy cons.
@@piguyalamode164 no they dint, even the new versions of switch and switch lite still have the issue. and they didn't quietly offer repairs... they only did that because there was a class action lawsuit on their ass. and that's only in US! they ARE putting analogs on joy cons that doesn't match the specs of the other consoles but they are demanding the same performance. is like using a Fiat 500 as Truck for your farm, might work for a while... but is not gonna last.
Nintendo has always been like this since the days of the NES. They actually took Blockbuster Video to court over them renting games. If it wasn't for renting games I wouldn't have purchased many NES games cause there was no other way to see them in action before buying. Nintendo has always been anti consumer.
@@thebravegallade731Laws are weird. In the US and Europe music rental was banned but it's legal in Japan, but the big companies failed to ban video and game rental here.
Yeah, that is the answer to a lo of these things. They are enforcing laws overseas and here, it doesn't make sense. Plus, other companies have been worse about this, I don't see why it's so unique to Nintendo in some people's eyes. Just look at how Sony makes you re-buy games every generation and somehow makes them WORSE as opposed to slightly better.
I have a weird suspicion that Bowser might actually be doing these buisness practices. Trying to take revenge on Mario by driving his own company to the ground.
Not gonna lie, the “Wii would like to play” adds def worked on a lot of people and that was back when people actually watched cable and had to watch the add every 13 mins
@@CTGReviews You know what's better than that though is piracy. Because with piracy, you have access to everything for free, including everything your country DOESN'T let you access. And unlike those other methods, none of the entertainment at your fingertips can be taken away from you once you have it, no matter which contracts expire or which services you let lapse.
@@thecianinator Piracy is indeed better. It's funny that businesses still haven't figured out that DRM-free is and will forever be the way to go. Until they put fucking DRM chips inside our brains people will figure out how to bypass the locks.
You mentioned Nintendo expressing interest in leaving the console business, and honestly I'd be thrilled if they did. Nintendo's retro services are so paltry that even calling it a retro service is a bit of a stretch. If Nintendo just dumped their massive back catalogue onto Steam they'd be rolling in more money than they'd ever know what to do with. If Nintendo wants people to stop pirating and "illegally" emulating their games, then a great way to do that is just making them available. As Gabe Newell once said, piracy is a services problem. People will buy when the product is affordable and available.
no they would just end up like saga also if they just port there things to pc 1. people will still pirate things maybe less but people have no morals 2. they would lose all there money from the e-shop
@@milesdunstan-daams4855 nope, people pirate due to nintendos stuff not being available. Think of Steam, how it’s massively successful and curtailed piracy by a large margin
The biggest thing I keep thinking about is this: entertainment industry is a bit of a paradox. What is safe is not entertaining. It's the only industry where taking risks is sort of mandatory. Nobody's interested in the same game again. Until every company actually realizes that deep down, we're stuck with this. Man I just want another good Pokemon game.
@@Wert-eo7sz this entire world is corrupt. Most people are probably no different than these companies, and you know it. You're no different from Nintendo or EA or Microsoft or any of them. You want all the money in the world. You just want to be happy. And that shouldn't happen. (Help me)
I got really confused and upset when the possibly of Nintendo moving away from consoles was mentioned. I mean what? How are they going to stay in the video game industry? Those franchises and characters are loved because they are video game characters to begin with. People want to play as them in their respective worlds. It’s a completely different concept to cartoon characters. You can’t just expect that the characters alone will keep the company alive. Sure, people wouldn’t mind seeing a Mario movie, or a Donkey Kong theme park or something. But most of the time, they should exist in video games in order for people to appreciate them. Basically what I’m trying to say in so many words is, Nintendo has established itself as a video game company. A company that makes stories and lovable characters in video games for people to play. If they leave that identity, Nintendo will cease to exist.
I see less and less kids to care about Nintendo's characters. It more about phones, Minecraft and RGB. I expect Nintendo to die off with their 80's 90's nostalgia kids
@@PlasticinaVerde Eventually it will bite the shareholders and that will fix Nintendo. Japanese companies are ran very strict in a different way too hard to describe in one post that will get downvoted by the PC (Politically Correct) crowd that don't know nothing.
Animal Crossing wasn't finished, Paper Mario isn't the game people eagerly waited for, for the 3rd time and Age of Calamity runs at 10 fps max at 320p max... Furukawa isn't even that crusty... He still doesn't fucking know what he's doing. And don't get me started on that fucking Mario Anniversary shit...
@@IR4ndI0mIL0wIb0Ib Animal Crossing is unfinished because the old coots in charge thought model with periodic updates was good for a game like Animal Crossing. It worked with Splatoon, which the same devs made, after all. They were fucking wrong, of course. Paper Mario is the way it is because Intelligent Systems (they developed it, not Nintendo in-house) are stubborn as hell and refuse to do what the fans want. The same devs refuse to work on Advance Wars right now (possibly ever) because they don't know how to add Fire Emblem's romance system to the series, ignoring the fact they used to make games without romance. Finally Age of Calamity is developed by Koie Tecmo, also not directly by Nintendo. Also, it's a musous/warriors game. What did you expect? Frame drops should be expected. I own the game and it only ever drops to 20fps on my OG model Switch, and only when I'm doing the flashy stuff in front of a lot of enemies.
My point is, games that aren't developed directly by Nintendo shouldn't be the focus here. Animal Crossing's barren content drip model, Link's Awakening INCREDIBLY choppy frame rate, and other in-house games should be our target with Nintendo's quality issues in games
@@TheDeadmanstrolling What's so bad about AC? Introducing new features over time just keeps people hooked for much longer. As for Link's, Awakening, never played it but I'm sure they fixed it over time.
@@ghivifahmi4252 that's not surprising. Japan often only cares about milking their foreign audiences while denying foreign products via nationalism. If you buy an Xbox in Japan, you get bullied and harassed to no end and your family practically disowned you because you supported a foreign company.
@@TonyTonyRedgrave I've been to Japan. This is a legit thing. There is a list of exceptions, like Coca-Cola, Apple and Converse, but the general rule is if there is a Japanese counterpart, it is your moral and cultural duty to purchase it before any foreign product. Surprisingly, competition is even harder for European and Chinese products, since America is seen as an Ally and friend and thus appropriate to purchase from.
Srsly now, why is the Audio so weird? It sounds like something out of a blown out speaker or when having water in you ear. I nearly cant listen to that.... And no, no other Videos sound like this
You can see the nostalgia baiting working for Nintendo, just like Disney, look at the cult-like fervor of anger that gets pointed at anyone that has anything but glowing opinions of Nintendo products and services.
So true. I quit the Nintendo cult way back in 1999 when it became painfully obvious the Sega Dreamcast and Sony Playstation 2 were flat out superior systems with better games. Real shame about Sega..and Playstation sucks these days too actually. That's why Nintendo is still in the game their only competitor now is Microsoft and maybe the new Steam Deck?
@@Ziegfried82 Nope. Microsoft has gone casual (not in the grandma/grandpa sense, more so the ‘cool uncle’ crowd), and the Steam Deck is too niche and too similar to existing PCs, it won’t find a definitive crowd, plus PCs, like mobile phones, are constantly evolving, rather than the more fixed periods consoles have.
@@vgames9207 well Alex is right, all companies care only about the money. It's just that some manage to hide that money craving in favor of a more "customer friendly" attitude. But at the end of the day and behind of this facade, every company just wants to get in your wallet. Get over it.
@@Sbungo61 "all companies care only about the money. It's just that some manage to hide that money craving in favor of a more "customer friendly" attitude. But at the end of the day and behind of this facade, every company just wants to get in your wallet." thats what i have been trying to tell people, that companys only care about how to get your money and nothing else.
@@vgames9207 yeah, exactly. People just want to live in a lie where some companies actually care for their customers. You know what? I'm sure as death that if a random Indie company (which are normally praised to be customer friendly) suddendly starts gaining more and more money so that it can become a real competitor for first party companies, the "customer friendly" facade would just disappear and the company would reveal itself for what it really is.
Nintendo is the definition of "Facebook friend." A person that you are familiar with, but not intimate in any way. They are not evil necessarily, but they occasionally do and say things that you simply can't stand with.
Nintendo the company is anti-consumer, it's just that they're development studios (on consoles anyway) don't have to deal with the company's bullshit much.
@@MrMoon-hy6pn Yeah. They have great quality control in games (horror stories like Fallout 76 are almost non existent) but the state in which they released the Joycons is not acceptable specially when this wasn't much of a problem in previous gens.
"why did the WiiU fail so miserably then??" Probably because they were dominating the handheld market. Yeah they didn't market the WiiU, like at all, but I'm pretty sure the DS is what kept them alive til the switch imo. Good video tho, I definitely agree that Nintendo kind of feels icky as of late with all of the cease and desist orders.
Wasn't it because the Wii-U's advertising and Launch Line Up the reason why it did miserably, since the 3DS was mean't to be a hold over till the Wii U came out?
But they wasn't really dominating that market either. 3DS early years were so bad that you can probably still find articles saying that it's going to be their last nail in the coffin. Thankfully with price cuts, really good libary and changing thier stratergy they were able to turn this thing around, but they didn't really do that w Wii U and children oriented commecrials and controversies like Fatal Frame, Xenoblade X or Tokyo Mirage Sessions censorship didn't really help them.
Personally I was thinking about the fact that better toasters do exist but are probably stifled by the fact that business execs don't want anything new or different from what does already exist
@@thewingedporpoise no they do exist but they are horrendously expensive. i have one i got for christmas for my 22nd birthday and it makes the PERFECT toast, it has multiple settings for everything under the sun and a touchscreen for some fucking reason. nevertheless, it's like 300 bucks
@@MsHumanOfTheDecade look up "technology connections toaster" and watch a man talk about toasters for maybe like 40 minutes, still absolutely entertaining though, never get bored watching him Edit: it's only really good at toast but like, you could definitely give it some extra spice to meet modern standards
Yeah, but more like the rule there are exceptions... like me and... uh... Ford... uh... like a third of Indie game devs... most RUclips channels... and small businesses.
Here's a scary thought... There's been rumors that Tencent (aka the arm of the Chinese government buying up the internet and video game publishers) is just waiting to buy up Nintendo after one misstep. I shudder to think this day is coming...
we've all known this for some time now. now just watch- the Zelda 3D collection is only gonna be avalible for 2 months rather then the 5 given to Mario
Don’t forget that they will most likely be emulated and conformists wouldn’t care because “they didn’t play them before” even though emulation on PC and Phones exist(like Super Mario’s Emulated Collection)
@@AkameGaKillfan777 Wind Waker and Twilight Princess already have HD ports on the Wii U- all they need to do is make them Switch playable and they're good to go. all they need to do is port Ocarina of TIme, Majora's Mask, and Skyward Sword... just like the Mario collection. and playing Skyward Sword on the go- impossible since it is built around and fundamentally requires motion controls
@@khhnator the N64 has Goldeneye, Ocarina of Time, the original Smash Bros, Mario 64, Starfox 64, a really good Doom, etc. It had decent number of good games but the system's lack of storage space meant it couldn't do RPGs worth a crap other than Ogre Battle and it had a lot of really bad 3rd party devs other than Rare. Nintendo's greed is what led to that systems existence, they failed to reach a deal with Sony otherwise the PlayStation would have never been a thing.
I remember the internet hating on the Gamecube back in the early days of the web. Now, it's seems most see it as a classic system. Nostalgia heals all wounds.
"People notice, and people don't forget." See, but people do forget, because apparently nobody remembers what Nintendo was like during the 80s and 90s. It blows my mind.
They won't, especially since the Switch is the top selling system at the moment, by virtue of the competition being hindered by scalpers (including PC with the graphics card)...
I think they might try to ride the train with another switch like console in the future, just for how long it's going to work is the real question. The appeal of the switch is that it's both portable and you can put it on your TV screen, but that will become the norm eventually at some point for all gaming publishers with the rise of cloud based gaming on which you can play on your phone, then your TV when you get home. Might seem far fetched right? But all the major platforms (Sony, Microsoft, even Google) are investing now on cloud base services, preparing for the future. So how is Nintendo going to keep up in that future, is what I think is going to be interesting to watch.
@@joannaalmazan4508 Every company does, but Nintendo only wants the money, and just the money. Thry truly don't care about anyone and anything, they just want money.
@@3Dee_King well, every company wants just the money. Some companies are just more clever than others and don't show it to the customers. This way the customers like blind fools support those companies "that really care about them".
Agreed. Stopping fangames is a beyond bad idea. Especially because they're essentially free advertisement. Edit: Fangames also show the love the fans have towards a game or that game's concept and that's why I think fangames should stay still.
@@GoinGreninja Most fan game makers just need to use more than one braincell to realise, that literally naming your game after an existing franchise opens you up legal action. Heck, some fans are mad that Pokemon clones exist on the Apple Store and the Play Store and haven't been taken down for years... Here's the thing, Nintendo can't even take the first step in filing for action because their IP isn't anywhere near the game even though everyone knows they're all cheap and shameless rip-offs. Also, free advertisement *to the people who are already fans of the business and their franchises?* Stop parroting this nonsense and think about this for one fucking second.
Japanese game companies are always like this. Our best bet is to wait for the old coots to retire and for new blood, who HOPEFULLY are more aware of what their consumers want, to replace them.
I guess it's because Japan still is culturally isolated from the West. They probably think the Smash tournaments are like a few hundred people watching a dozend players.
It's as I say, enjoy the games, not the company. Because the games are where the real passion is (In most cases), while the company is just an empty husk (In most cases).
None of them our our friends, but none of them are entirely evil either. Some are worse than others. When you think about it, Nintendo is on the "better" side. I do not mean better as in being bad. I mean better as in being okay.
Nintendo is worse than not your friend. They're far more actively malicious than other gaming companies and hate their fans on many levels. That is the point.
The sad thing is when Kid Icarus Uprising, which was released when Iwata was alive and kicking, still had an advertisement campaign that led to KIU ending up with a glitch that allowed for accessing the Home menu while the game screen was set to anything IRL, which led to lewd screenshot posting on Miiverse. Well, there was still perversion on Miiverse regardless, but the screenshot glitch made it spike. Just.....WHY is TLC becoming more and more of an alien concept nowadays?
Yeah I hate the shit Nintendo’s pulling. I’m only going to be buying from the aftermarket from now on, really don’t want to give Nintendo any more money
Honestly, retro computing is the future for me. Mainly because despite the age of some of these old computers. They still get games as if its still 1985. And they don't cost alot to buy the games for
well if you dislike nintendo for openly being like this i think youd find the works of a few philosophers who critique this and also what this kind of behaviour stems from (f.e. peter kropotkin or marx)
@@wolfrage99 PSP used a different format. UMDs were not Mini-DVDs, they were Sony's usual gimmick of being internally engineered proprietary garbage. Sony's always been worse than Nintendo in that regard, with everything from Betamax and MiniDisc to ATRAC and MagicGate.
Hardware drivers often come on them if they aren’t distributed over the internet. The difference is the GameCube still used an expensive proprietary optical format that only they could make. Yeah Sony also did that but they’re also the ones who make generic disks too
The GameCube was a decent system, the last respectable home console Nintendo made. But those mini discs, what a moronic move. Nintendo greed struck again and almost killed them.
It's also worth mentioning that most of the major products that have come since Iwata's passing were still directly tied to his decisions, namely the Switch itself and especially Zelda: BotW.
I really feel you about games that are offline, don't need wifi, have no microtransactions... That just are what they are in a box upfront. I was super into my N64 and even the Game Cube, but I dropped out of gaming when it went online.
As someone who grew up in the 64, gamecube and wii era. I had no idea that the 64 and gamecube did comparably bad. I have so many wonderful memories with the games and my cousins
Damn man... I wanna say you’re wrong but.. Always sucks when things that used to bring us magic turn out to be corporate husks. I guess the moral of the story is to praise the people, the creators, not the company, because they just care about growth, not making magic
@@laurenedney7 And they're considered better than the other big game companies, so if Nintendo is awful, the rest must be fucking diabolical, which they are.
Fr. Atleast Nintendo makes good first party games. What does that say about blizzard, who deliberately nuder their games to appeal to the casual market, alienating their fans. What about EA, with their massive graveyard of dead studios. Konami, treats their employee's and even their directors less than dirt. Point is, late stage capitalism fucking sucks.
Whatever anti consumer practices nintendo has it doesnt come close to the mainstream console market. From paying fullprice for a day one download like red dead 2 to having literal ads in between loading screens like 2k and death stranding. Fuck that you wanna play 9/10 games anywhere you want you go nintendo. At least the micro transactions stay on your phone and not on your console
Ever since Iwata passed, Nintendo really ramped up sueing people for “copyright infringement” for just posting content about their games. It’s really sad.
People will probably assume that youre shitting on nintendo, but youre not. Its a really informative video, especially with that Blue Ocean/Red Ocean strategies!
@@fufufemi right? But it's not really for casuals which is the switches main market. If anything I'd still buy a switch over it as I don't care enough about fancy games only playing stuff for casuals
I can think of a lot of anti-consumer decisions during the Iwata era, mainly the short stock of the amiibos and NES classics. A lot of the issues smash tournaments had with smash were also in this era, where tournaments were not allowed to play modded games or be sponsored by Nintendo. Correct me if I’m wrong but I’m pretty sure Iwata outlasted Project M.
Nintendo has completely owned the handheld market since the OG gameboy. That kept them a afloat while they got their lunch money stolen by Sony with the 64 and the GC. People thought the WiiU was an add on. They didn't see the point in buying a $250 add on. It really was marketed poorly but it was a good idea which is why they redid it with the Switch which is just a reworked WiiU. They're on pace to break the PS2's sales record.
@@biivamunner3122 Well I didn't say Nintendo defended the Yakuza, rather they catered to the gambling needs of said mobsters by printing making the games they used to gamble. So I don't really understand what point you were trying to make (and don't feel the need to argue in a comment section). But sure, Nintendo is allowed to suck for other reasons as well.
Unpopular opinion: while I respect the blue ocean strategy, I don’t think letting Nintendo characters be in multiple forms of media is actually that bad an idea.
I'm very happy you made this, as much as I absolutely love Nintendo games people have this image of this infallible quote unquote "good" company, completely failing to recognize that it's impossible to get to that level of growth without stepping on toes and overall being shitty
@@santiagocarrer7394 I don't really care about audio specifically. I just don't agree with your opinion that deliberately doing something of lower quality is artistic. That is all.
@@TURBOMIKEIFY i haven't found any *really* good games on it personally, also the marketing strategies are a really big turn off for me, it makes it harder for me to buy games since i don't have a lot of money.
@@bob-omb1217 I do understand the marketing thing and how expensive they are but.. THE GAMES?? WHAT?? You mean to tell me that BOTW.. A game the revolutionized open world games and was 2017's GOTY isn't enough? How about Mario odyssey? The mario game that also was nominated for GOTY and got back to it's Mario 64 and sunshine routs and perfected them! What about Smash Ultimate? The biggest and the most balanced Smash to date!! (according to the pros like Hungry box and Leffen) Mario kart 8 deluxe.. Mario maker 2..Splatoon 2..Animal crossing and all the sequels in development? All of these games are not *GOOD ENOUGH* ??
Never understood why regular consumers defend and fight for their preferred big companies What’s the incentive? You aren’t getting anything from it besides whatever content you pay for. Nintendo don’t give a shit if you argue about games
The Wii saved Nintendo because it was cheap and available in a generation that was probably the overall most expensive for consoles of all time. I remember the garbage PS3 that came out first and was like $700+ if you could find it. The Wii also appealed to those casual gamers who would eventually turn to mobile gaming. Nintendo never really released any good games that took advantage of the Wiimote after the first couple of years. Wii U was a joke, a slightly more powerful Wii with a big bulky garbage tablet controller and it could only handle one such controller. I'm honestly not quite sure how the Switch has done so well. Probably in part Nintendo embracing third party (though often a generation behind) games more and having the mobile aspect to it. Nintendo just doesn't know how to really make money. They'll release the classic consoles with 20 or so games but not include an option to purchase additional games and they also just let it sell out and then never make it again. And it's not like a N64 or Gamecube with the 20 "best" games will be that amazing. Almost entirely their own games. Nintendo has such a tremendous back catalog of games, they should just be releasing them for Android and iOS on the cheap and rake in the cash.
Blue ocean strategy is when you look for unmet needs in a highly competitive market to create a new market segment. Nintendo did not use a blue ocean strategy with the release of the 3ds or wii u. They were focused on market retention.
I’d disagree that Iwata and Reggie were benevolent. It was Iwata who started cracking down on fan games and roms. It was Iwata who started the Nintendo Ninja stalking mobs. It was Iwata who kept cronies in positions to fuck up series like Paper Mario and Metroid
It was Iwata who thought Reigon-locking consoles was a good idea. It was Iwata who was pro-censorship. It was Reggie who mocked fans that wanted Mother 3. But people eat it all up because Corporate Figures NEVER hide their true selves in public, right?
@@AkameGaKillfan777 To be fair to Reggie, he has no power to compel Nintendo Co. Ltd. to release Mother 3. He is a powerless sock puppet which might be an aftermath of the Sega debacle where the two branches are sniping at each other...
So Iwata was actively trying to sabotage Paper Mario and Metroid? I'm sorry, but that's incredibly stupid. At worst you could say that his decisions could have been misguided (the guy wasn't perfect after all), but you make it sound like he was screwing over Metroid and Paper Mario for no good reason. What would he gain in doing that? And if you are talking about Other M, that was Sakamoto's brainchild. And it was Iwata who coded Pokemon Gold and Silver, started Smash with Sakurai and encouraged him on the project after Miyamoto was agaisnt using Nintendo characters, tasked the development of Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, slashed his salary after the failure of the Wii U, and was behind the development of the Switch. The guy was a team player to his employees. Let's not pretend that his tenure as president was completely irredemable.
@@AkameGaKillfan777 So you are butthurt about that gag about Mother 3? You realize that Mother is such a niche franchise that localizing it may not have been a financially sound business decision, do you? And you were Reggie, you would certainly get tired of being asked the same thing over and over. He wasn't blocking the localization for sure. Doubt that you are even bright enough to understand that all of this isn't quite as simple.
Even EA has learned that sometimes, having a pro-consumer attitude is good. When a company known for being as anti-consumer as possible is doing better then you are, you know you're doing something wrong.
Nintendo has gone full Disney. It's a shame because I still love a lot of their stuff but good Lord, they got this anti-consumer thing almost down to an art. Not to mention they still CANNOT do online properly.
It's of course more complex than that, when the Switch's success blew up long after than Iwata's untimely passing (even if he laid down the groundwork) and it's bizarre, restrictive decisions are rooted in its elderly, insular Japanese execs - it's a happy accident they've got strong IPs and creative minds keeping the company grounded and pulling them through all their self-induced crisis over the decades.
As you pointed out early, sometimes business mindset helps the marriage of creative industry into a mass market product, it certainly helped Nintendo in the NES era. Before that the game industry tore itself apart with cheap copy cats, crashing unreliable hardware/software and mountains of piracy, so a strict simple device that forced developers to make quality games and lasted a few years helped build a loyal audience. It's something to be said that despite fans being dedicated and vocal, they are the vocal minority, which can really tear industries apart when companies try to chase their demands instead of just creating good products with unique selling points. But too much conservative business and not enough creativity has the opposite effect too, many customers go elsewhere for their needs.
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Sorry Tyler, but Nintendo is going to send you a letter of cease and desist for having Nintendo in the title
This is a letter ordering that you cease and desist.
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What if I have a family member called Mario? Are they going to throw them in jail?
@@TheEpicDiamondMiner yee
Honestly I'm baffled that businesses haven't realized that backgrounds matter.
Of course people who understand the industry and consumer will have an intrinsic sense of what to provide; they both acted as consumer and producer and have experienced firsthand the causes and effects of success and failure.
It's one of the first rules of employment. Hire sailors to man boats, and hire pilots to man planes; not the other way around.
Iwata should have been a blueprint for good leadership at Nintendo, not a unique stroke of luck.
You're looking at these "job" slots as an actual job, and not as a bag of loot for those with all the money and all the power. Why would they NOT want to reward themselves?
It's not complicated why a shareholder would want someone like themselves, especially a family member, to get the loot bag. And not some nerd who wrote source for a Pokemon game or something. Or even worse - a person who was poor for five minutes in their lives. They might have caught some empathy for plebs, or something.
@@BMoser-bv6kn If they like making money over the long term, yeah, it's in their best interest to appoint people who are good at the industry. The market keeps punishing them for short-sighted greed. They'll either go out of business or learn.
The other way round? Hire man planes to be pilots??
@@squabbbb its called automation
@@BMoser-bv6kn We live in a society.
Nintendo is so obsessed with Nostalgia that they're probably just going to create the Iwata and Reggie Mini.
That would be hilarious
That's the only reason why people buy their games to begin with, their games aren't impressive in either a technical or creative way.
@@09ziyad Why are you even here?
@@AkameGaKillfan777 what is this your safe space ?
@@09ziyad explain your definitions of "technicality" and "creativity," please?
not too many business dudes were as likeable as reggie.
*Lord Gaben?*
@@caleb_artzs2533 not so many. Not none other than him
@@caleb_artzs2533 he said business dudes not deities.
I feel like Reggie was such a likable figure because he was always in the public eye, front and center of directs, E3 presentations, etc. There’s not many other figures like that in the gaming industry, you’re not going to see the President of Sony showing up for a State of Play. It’s probably the reason why we see Phil Spencer so often nowadays as well.
@@iljaradenkovs7150 ohhh sorry to insult god like that 🙏🙏🙏
"Disneyfication of a company"
Powerful words
It kakes sense when Hiroshi Yamauchi (3rd Pres.) went to the US to struck up a deal with Disney back in the 1950's making themed cards using the latter's IP's. That collab propelled Nintendo to a new market aimed at children, arguably becoming a stepping stone towards their current business model...
I've always felt like Nintendo was the Disney of the video game world for multiple reasons and it's interesting watching both of them go down similar paths.
It's not just "Disneyfication", this is what happens when you piss in the blue ocean one too many times. Also didn't help they hired an EA shill for NOA.
@@deathstrike NoA is a powerless sock puppet to Nintendo Co. Ltd. based in Kyoto. It is Nintendo Co. Ltd. that calls the shots...
@@TISparta217 yeah, I hadn't thought of it until now, but there is something very similar in having awful anti-competitive business on the one hand, and genuinely quality kid-friendly media on the other. The way that builds nostalgia for your IP as your biggest asset. I know they're awful, but love Disney for the renaissance, and I love Nintendo for Pokemon and Zelda.
The worst thing about Nintendo, is their apologists.
True, you can’t have a debate with those people bc they will say the most dumb arguments and will actually believe that they have won the argument
The existence of Nintendo apologists mostly exist due to how good Nintendo's development branch is. Ever since the they first started developing games the general trend for Nintendo games was quality and innovation. People grew up with and still play their games, because when it comes to games, Nintendo is one of the most consistent developers when it comes to quality
The problem however, is that Nintendo is not one big entity with the same mindset throughout. Nintendo's game development branch is WAY different from their executive branch in how they approach their consumers. Because of this, Nintendo apologists want to believe anything with the name "Nintendo" does is inherently good, when this is just not the case. The executive branch of Nintendo holds all of the power and they're the ones making all of the horrible anti-consumer descisions.
It's no wonder then, that Iwata was originally just a developer who rose to the top, which explains his differring mindset from all the other presidents and executives.
@Jesus Pernia all I ever hear is because it's portable or Sony will censor it.
@Jesus Pernia guess you haven't heard how all the kids are crying that Sony is censoring anime games. Every time a anime looking game is coming to PS you always see switch fanboys saying I'll buy it on switch because Sony will censor it.
Which is like 90% of their fanbase.
Half of nintendo is talented developers creating games that are worth playing and replaying.
The other half is a boardroom of old men that are out of touch with everyone in their consumer base.
Guess which one has more power.
It's the latter, isn't it? It's so sad to see this happening to them.
I do respect that that board room respects the developers and doesn’t crunch them
A lot of it has to do with the fact that its a Japanese company, which has to do those things to protect its ips and etc
That would explain Nintendo's Switch "Online" service.
@@vulgrim909 But Sega as also mentioned in the video does not do this to nearly the same degree as Nintendo in spite of both being from Japan, clearly Nintendo is going beyond what is necessary for their own purposes.
This is such a depressing video for me. The Iwata years were my entire childhood, and I never even knew Iwata's name before now. As much as it makes sense that Nintendo won't get better, I really hope they do. They gave me so much and it hurts to see it ripped away.
Thanks Iwata, for making my childhood what it was
You should go watch Did You Know Gaming's Iwata video or Arlo's Goodbye Iwata video. He was a good guy and those videos are both quite emotional. You also learn a ton about him from watching them so I think they're worth watching
You guys are so young its so depressing xD
I grow up with Nintendo too but in the mid 90s snes/n64 era ^^
you can tell things changed once he was gone
There's a lot I love about Nintendo, but there's also a lot of stuff that disappoint me. Nintendo the corporation I see as greedy and not the greatest. But Nintendo the developers / creative team? (Everyone who isn't a higher-up executive) I love those guys and can feel the passion from that side. Iwata and Reggie were one of them before they became CEO and president of the business. I personally see their strengths greater than their weaknesses, but I acknowledge their flaws and hope for their sake they get better executives to better themselves as a corporation. They've become the most successful & beloved Japanese company in the world, they shouldn't ruin such a feat over poor management decisions
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That explains why joy con drift has not been fixed. Nintendo doesn't really care about joy con drift, they just keep sliding the problem under the rug and hopes people forget and buy another set of expensive joy cons.
Yep exactly
@@khhnator If you really think that you didnt think when trying to fix it, I fixed it by removing the cap for the thumbstick and putting it back
@@mr.preston1632 ??
@@khhnator Except they have actually fixed it and quietly offer to fix your joyncons for free
@@piguyalamode164 no they dint, even the new versions of switch and switch lite still have the issue.
and they didn't quietly offer repairs... they only did that because there was a class action lawsuit on their ass. and that's only in US!
they ARE putting analogs on joy cons that doesn't match the specs of the other consoles but they are demanding the same performance.
is like using a Fiat 500 as Truck for your farm, might work for a while... but is not gonna last.
Nintendo has always been like this since the days of the NES. They actually took Blockbuster Video to court over them renting games. If it wasn't for renting games I wouldn't have purchased many NES games cause there was no other way to see them in action before buying. Nintendo has always been anti consumer.
Its more like they felt it was illegal.... cause in japan it was.
@@thebravegallade731Laws are weird. In the US and Europe music rental was banned but it's legal in Japan, but the big companies failed to ban video and game rental here.
Yeah, that is the answer to a lo of these things. They are enforcing laws overseas and here, it doesn't make sense. Plus, other companies have been worse about this, I don't see why it's so unique to Nintendo in some people's eyes. Just look at how Sony makes you re-buy games every generation and somehow makes them WORSE as opposed to slightly better.
@@cattysplat Music rental was not illegal in Europe. I've rented loads of CD's from my local library in the Netherlands back in the 90's.
They have to any extent but in the GameCube to WiiU era they were a lot better. Then they went back to being sick.
At this point I'm not even surprise if Nintendo sue an Italian parent for naming their child "Mario"
I would sue them because it sounds very old fashioned
Mario è un bel nome... Lo faranno gratis
@@darkahrenn1570 franco è ancora meglio però
Mario Lenimux is going to die knowing that.
y'all are getting Nintendo confused with disney
R.I.P. Iwata. You were on track for making a better future...
Nintendo became the criminal
Evidently, Bowser's body wasn't ready unlike Reggie
😂
I have a weird suspicion that Bowser might actually be doing these buisness practices. Trying to take revenge on Mario by driving his own company to the ground.
@@unlimited8410 Lol, Bowser villain, therefore bad president, no research neccessary
Nobody's ready like Reggie.
Omg lol
Not gonna lie, the “Wii would like to play” adds def worked on a lot of people and that was back when people actually watched cable and had to watch the add every 13 mins
No coincidence that Reggie was brought on as VP of sales and marketing before he was eventually promoted to president of NOA.
It’s actually better to have cable, and all the streaming services. You can watch literally everything your country can let you by switching.
@@CTGReviews You know what's better than that though is piracy. Because with piracy, you have access to everything for free, including everything your country DOESN'T let you access. And unlike those other methods, none of the entertainment at your fingertips can be taken away from you once you have it, no matter which contracts expire or which services you let lapse.
@@thecianinator Piracy is indeed better. It's funny that businesses still haven't figured out that DRM-free is and will forever be the way to go. Until they put fucking DRM chips inside our brains people will figure out how to bypass the locks.
@@thecianinator @Cobalt Sorry, the best *LEGAL* way to do it is have both.
Disney: I am evil.
Viacom: 5% of my earnings come from Spongebob alone.
Disney: Well played.
Nintendo: hey can I join you guy's.
Disney: How does the Chinese market regard you?
Cartoon Network: we're a toy company that where quality shows aren't a priority anymore. Wait, why is our viewership dying?
Nickelodeon: We cancel every show that doesn't instantly get popular so we can force more KAMP KORAL
@@uykolyx Disney: we pay to prevent our mascot from entering the public domain. Beat THAT.
Im mean... They hired a guy named Bowser to lead them. Really didn't know what they thought was gonna happend.
He was from EA too. All the red flags were there.
Yeah.... I know😔
To be fair he only runs the AMERICAN branch. Furokawa is the president of Nintendo as a whole so Bowser is just following his orders.
Yeah you're right but the guy's name is Bowser. How can we not think he's the bad guy here.
I bet he's not even really called Bowser but just some bs lies by Craptendo to be "funny"
The audio is too compressed and heavily EQ'd
On the compressor I'd put a slower attack, set the release quicker or auto and raise the threshold
its the Aesthetic
@@floppa_9530 His previous vidoes didn't've that, so I don't buy it.
@@markshortall3384 that's some yugi-oh shit
He also kinda has it panned to the right
You mentioned Nintendo expressing interest in leaving the console business, and honestly I'd be thrilled if they did. Nintendo's retro services are so paltry that even calling it a retro service is a bit of a stretch. If Nintendo just dumped their massive back catalogue onto Steam they'd be rolling in more money than they'd ever know what to do with. If Nintendo wants people to stop pirating and "illegally" emulating their games, then a great way to do that is just making them available. As Gabe Newell once said, piracy is a services problem. People will buy when the product is affordable and available.
Pokemon Red/Blue on mobile would be one of Nintendo's greatest decisions, imho.
no they would just end up like saga also if they just port there things to pc 1. people will still pirate things maybe less but people have no morals 2. they would lose all there money from the e-shop
@@milesdunstan-daams4855 nope, people pirate due to nintendos stuff not being available. Think of Steam, how it’s massively successful and curtailed piracy by a large margin
maybe Nintendo pc launcher???
@@winsleyocampo6383 that's just asking for failure.
The biggest thing I keep thinking about is this: entertainment industry is a bit of a paradox. What is safe is not entertaining. It's the only industry where taking risks is sort of mandatory. Nobody's interested in the same game again. Until every company actually realizes that deep down, we're stuck with this.
Man I just want another good Pokemon game.
F/:-ing same!
@@Wert-eo7sz this entire world is corrupt. Most people are probably no different than these companies, and you know it. You're no different from Nintendo or EA or Microsoft or any of them. You want all the money in the world. You just want to be happy. And that shouldn't happen.
(Help me)
@@stpidstuff All lives matter, and no lives matter!!!
@@ricky-sanchez yes
@@Wert-eo7sz I just was kinda overwhelmed that day
Is tyler speaking from the inside of a shoebox? Did he change his mic? Or is it just me?
It's not just you
You're not alone, hombre.
yes
I assumed that he always uses some sort of malfunctioning 90's recording device for his audio.
sad times
I got really confused and upset when the possibly of Nintendo moving away from consoles was mentioned. I mean what? How are they going to stay in the video game industry? Those franchises and characters are loved because they are video game characters to begin with.
People want to play as them in their respective worlds. It’s a completely different concept to cartoon characters. You can’t just expect that the characters alone will keep the company alive. Sure, people wouldn’t mind seeing a Mario movie, or a Donkey Kong theme park or something. But most of the time, they should exist in video games in order for people to appreciate them.
Basically what I’m trying to say in so many words is, Nintendo has established itself as a video game company. A company that makes stories and lovable characters in video games for people to play. If they leave that identity, Nintendo will cease to exist.
@Jacob Rothwell that probably wont happen in a very very very very very long time
It won't.. Don't worry
They are smart with money they know what to do
I see less and less kids to care about Nintendo's characters. It more about phones, Minecraft and RGB. I expect Nintendo to die off with their 80's 90's nostalgia kids
@@PlasticinaVerde Eventually it will bite the shareholders and that will fix Nintendo. Japanese companies are ran very strict in a different way too hard to describe in one post that will get downvoted by the PC (Politically Correct) crowd that don't know nothing.
They could just become a third party developer and make games for pc and other consoles
As it turns out crusty old business men don't know anything about games
Uhm, except they actually still produce good software. It's the business side that does that stuff.
Animal Crossing wasn't finished, Paper Mario isn't the game people eagerly waited for, for the 3rd time and Age of Calamity runs at 10 fps max at 320p max...
Furukawa isn't even that crusty...
He still doesn't fucking know what he's doing. And don't get me started on that fucking Mario Anniversary shit...
@@IR4ndI0mIL0wIb0Ib Animal Crossing is unfinished because the old coots in charge thought model with periodic updates was good for a game like Animal Crossing. It worked with Splatoon, which the same devs made, after all. They were fucking wrong, of course.
Paper Mario is the way it is because Intelligent Systems (they developed it, not Nintendo in-house) are stubborn as hell and refuse to do what the fans want. The same devs refuse to work on Advance Wars right now (possibly ever) because they don't know how to add Fire Emblem's romance system to the series, ignoring the fact they used to make games without romance.
Finally Age of Calamity is developed by Koie Tecmo, also not directly by Nintendo. Also, it's a musous/warriors game. What did you expect? Frame drops should be expected. I own the game and it only ever drops to 20fps on my OG model Switch, and only when I'm doing the flashy stuff in front of a lot of enemies.
My point is, games that aren't developed directly by Nintendo shouldn't be the focus here. Animal Crossing's barren content drip model, Link's Awakening INCREDIBLY choppy frame rate, and other in-house games should be our target with Nintendo's quality issues in games
@@TheDeadmanstrolling
What's so bad about AC? Introducing new features over time just keeps people hooked for much longer. As for Link's, Awakening, never played it but I'm sure they fixed it over time.
in 10 years tylers mic is going to be fully boosted in the mid to high frequencies and have all the sound panned to the right ear
gonna have the same audio as a nintendo switch.
Imagine Japanese business men having any serious interest for the situation outside of Japan. What a world we'd live in.
Foreign audience is often an afterthought in Japanese entertainment scene
@@ghivifahmi4252 that’s fucked
@@jacopomalatesta4913 at least we have xbox
@@ghivifahmi4252 that's not surprising. Japan often only cares about milking their foreign audiences while denying foreign products via nationalism. If you buy an Xbox in Japan, you get bullied and harassed to no end and your family practically disowned you because you supported a foreign company.
@@TonyTonyRedgrave I've been to Japan. This is a legit thing. There is a list of exceptions, like Coca-Cola, Apple and Converse, but the general rule is if there is a Japanese counterpart, it is your moral and cultural duty to purchase it before any foreign product.
Surprisingly, competition is even harder for European and Chinese products, since America is seen as an Ally and friend and thus appropriate to purchase from.
i feel like everyone is forgetting about this again like they always do. they just move on and the cycle repeats. im glad you didn't forget.
Some people want to be happy you know?
@@B2099-b2h happiness is a fallacy. There is no "right to be happy". The only right everyone has is the right to be screwed in the ass
@@CBRN-115 lol
@@B2099-b2h yea be happy but also realize Nintendo is evil (as is every conglomerate) who is selling u three 20 year old games for 60 dollars
@@dansuduhast1051 no lol
They are doing business
Business is evil
And I can always just.. Not buy them you know?
Srsly now, why is the Audio so weird? It sounds like something out of a blown out speaker or when having water in you ear. I nearly cant listen to that.... And no, no other Videos sound like this
yea that last one sounds like this too
Yup. It's strange.
The ad bit was the one part with clear audio from the other person, this audio isn't even funny bad like grade a under a, it's just bad audio
i feel like all the mids are just missing. Highs and lows are there
Yep, had to turn audio down since it hurt my ears xD
You can see the nostalgia baiting working for Nintendo, just like Disney, look at the cult-like fervor of anger that gets pointed at anyone that has anything but glowing opinions of Nintendo products and services.
So true. I quit the Nintendo cult way back in 1999 when it became painfully obvious the Sega Dreamcast and Sony Playstation 2 were flat out superior systems with better games. Real shame about Sega..and Playstation sucks these days too actually. That's why Nintendo is still in the game their only competitor now is Microsoft and maybe the new Steam Deck?
@@Ziegfried82 Nope. Microsoft has gone casual (not in the grandma/grandpa sense, more so the ‘cool uncle’ crowd), and the Steam Deck is too niche and too similar to existing PCs, it won’t find a definitive crowd, plus PCs, like mobile phones, are constantly evolving, rather than the more fixed periods consoles have.
I have a switch and emulate Nintendo games, I play both sides so I always come on top.
I always come on bottom
Soooo your W/L rate is exactly .5
Based
Gotta use the switch to emulate a pirated copy of mario 64 at 60fps. Get it running better than the shitty all-stars version.
You too? I got a switch recently to play smash with my friends. But emulate all other console games I cant get off of steam.
We live in a boring dystopia.
Sadly true
Fine. I'll take over the world and make an interesting dystopia.
I think it’s more of a slow boil dystopia
Well not a very hot born more like cool
We could all suddenly decide to wear pants with LED strips and socks on our ears, it's useless but less boring
"Wait all companies are anti-consumer?"
"Always has been..."
@Alex Wells ah yes, the nobodys perfect defense.
@@vgames9207Hop in! 🚘
Were gonna go find who asked!
@@vgames9207 well Alex is right, all companies care only about the money. It's just that some manage to hide that money craving in favor of a more "customer friendly" attitude. But at the end of the day and behind of this facade, every company just wants to get in your wallet. Get over it.
@@Sbungo61 "all companies care only about the money. It's just that some manage to hide that money craving in favor of a more "customer friendly" attitude. But at the end of the day and behind of this facade, every company just wants to get in your wallet." thats what i have been trying to tell people, that companys only care about how to get your money and nothing else.
@@vgames9207 yeah, exactly. People just want to live in a lie where some companies actually care for their customers. You know what? I'm sure as death that if a random Indie company (which are normally praised to be customer friendly) suddendly starts gaining more and more money so that it can become a real competitor for first party companies, the "customer friendly" facade would just disappear and the company would reveal itself for what it really is.
Nintendo is the definition of "Facebook friend." A person that you are familiar with, but not intimate in any way. They are not evil necessarily, but they occasionally do and say things that you simply can't stand with.
so like a fake friend then?
@@vgames9207
Yeah but a friendly one mostly
@@ToastItalian like a friendly fake friend then.
@@vgames9207
Yes
And also a billionare
The Other Jared Nintendo has a track record for making underpowered hardware which I TOTALLY can not stand.
Nintendo the company is anti-consumer, it's just that they're development studios (on consoles anyway) don't have to deal with the company's bullshit much.
Because the company knew very well that quality matters. They won't release a broken game...
@@axelpatrickb.pingol3228 but apparently they'll release a broken controller... Millions of them but that's besides the point
@@MrMoon-hy6pn That... Is a hardware problem, not a software problem. While it is a Nintendo problem, it isn't a Nintendo dev problem...
@@MrMoon-hy6pn Yeah. They have great quality control in games (horror stories like Fallout 76 are almost non existent) but the state in which they released the Joycons is not acceptable specially when this wasn't much of a problem in previous gens.
@@axelpatrickb.pingol3228 Age of Calamity doesn't run at all, fam... That game is 100% not playable xD
"why did the WiiU fail so miserably then??" Probably because they were dominating the handheld market. Yeah they didn't market the WiiU, like at all, but I'm pretty sure the DS is what kept them alive til the switch imo. Good video tho, I definitely agree that Nintendo kind of feels icky as of late with all of the cease and desist orders.
Wii U is very underrated.
Wasn't it because the Wii-U's advertising and Launch Line Up the reason why it did miserably, since the 3DS was mean't to be a hold over till the Wii U came out?
The games were great too. It was just the fact that many already owned a Wii that made the console seem “irrelevant”.
@@ianeons9278 agreed, the only issue i think the wii u has tho is the lack of performance
But they wasn't really dominating that market either. 3DS early years were so bad that you can probably still find articles saying that it's going to be their last nail in the coffin. Thankfully with price cuts, really good libary and changing thier stratergy they were able to turn this thing around, but they didn't really do that w Wii U and children oriented commecrials and controversies like Fatal Frame, Xenoblade X or Tokyo Mirage Sessions censorship didn't really help them.
During that toaster segment, I couldn’t help but think about the famous Mario quote, “You know what they say, ‘All toasters, toast, toast!’”
thank you for using quotation marks correctly
Personally I was thinking about the fact that better toasters do exist but are probably stifled by the fact that business execs don't want anything new or different from what does already exist
@@thewingedporpoise no they do exist but they are horrendously expensive. i have one i got for christmas for my 22nd birthday and it makes the PERFECT toast, it has multiple settings for everything under the sun and a touchscreen for some fucking reason. nevertheless, it's like 300 bucks
@@MsHumanOfTheDecade look up "technology connections toaster" and watch a man talk about toasters for maybe like 40 minutes, still absolutely entertaining though, never get bored watching him
Edit: it's only really good at toast but like, you could definitely give it some extra spice to meet modern standards
man i love hotel mario so much.
There are two types of CEO:
the one who drinks blood
And the one who eats children
Amazon: Why not do both and make a profit off of it?!
Yeah, but more like the rule there are exceptions... like me and... uh... Ford... uh... like a third of Indie game devs... most RUclips channels... and small businesses.
@@GreenBlueWalkthrough you sound like you're both of these listed here
@@stpidstuff How?
@@GreenBlueWalkthrough that way you wrote that comment. Its clear.
Here's a scary thought...
There's been rumors that Tencent (aka the arm of the Chinese government buying up the internet and video game publishers) is just waiting to buy up Nintendo after one misstep.
I shudder to think this day is coming...
It already happen just ask pokemon unite!
Well said and good idea speaking out.
'Nintendo made some questioning decisions'
So what's new...
@Egg T do you really have to reply in every single comment thread here?
@@Portmonet More comments more likes
I'll send you C&D letter due destroying people's ears with this audio mix.
seriously, i couldn't finish the video
I remember when Nintendo used to run Love Hotels.
Go back to bed grandpa
@@goose6112 But my soap operas!
Good video my man
l don't make videos sir
Hello anime boy
@@soapyguy6483 so his name isn’t literally “anime character”
You??? Never thought i would find you here... >:(
Tetra!
we've all known this for some time now. now just watch- the Zelda 3D collection is only gonna be avalible for 2 months rather then the 5 given to Mario
We’ll be lucky if we get any at all.
Don’t forget that they will most likely be emulated and conformists wouldn’t care because “they didn’t play them before” even though emulation on PC and Phones exist(like Super Mario’s Emulated Collection)
@@RayoMcQueen95990 it's ok if shittendo does it :v
But if you do it, you go to the space gulag
And one of the games won't be included
@@AkameGaKillfan777 Wind Waker and Twilight Princess already have HD ports on the Wii U- all they need to do is make them Switch playable and they're good to go. all they need to do is port Ocarina of TIme, Majora's Mask, and Skyward Sword... just like the Mario collection. and playing Skyward Sword on the go- impossible since it is built around and fundamentally requires motion controls
You are right. Even though many people have nostalgia for the N64,GameCube,and Wii U, they weren't good times for Nintendo themselves.
n64 has very very few good games really and a lot of the stuff that was good for the time aged like milk
@@khhnator if it weren't for it's first party lineup no one would care about it.
@@khhnator the N64 has Goldeneye, Ocarina of Time, the original Smash Bros, Mario 64, Starfox 64, a really good Doom, etc. It had decent number of good games but the system's lack of storage space meant it couldn't do RPGs worth a crap other than Ogre Battle and it had a lot of really bad 3rd party devs other than Rare. Nintendo's greed is what led to that systems existence, they failed to reach a deal with Sony otherwise the PlayStation would have never been a thing.
I remember the internet hating on the Gamecube back in the early days of the web. Now, it's seems most see it as a classic system. Nostalgia heals all wounds.
@@aaronsarchive82 Except the loss of (cough) Rareware (cough).
I've been saying this all my goddamn life and everyone laughed at me.
*"Who's laughing now?"*
@@theepicspy570 me
idiots like Nintendo fanboys are why Nintendo keeps releasing garbage, we need to boycott them and only buy the handful of good games.
I know the feeling. I was yelling about DLC and where it would take us back when I first saw the costume locker keys in Dead Rising.
Same
Times have changed and all that matters now is money and politics
I would love to know what you think people were doing before money or politics. When did money and politics become a thing?
@@lily91109 they have been here since the start of society
Pretty sure it's always been like that
@@stpidstuff yeah that what I was trying to say. There was never a time before without money or politics. I mean, there was but that was a while ago.
Always has been
"People notice, and people don't forget."
See, but people do forget, because apparently nobody remembers what Nintendo was like during the 80s and 90s. It blows my mind.
EA: I AM LIGHT YEARS AHEAD OF YOU
NINTENDO: we release full games so we aren't that bad
@@enragedlemon3115
One out of ....
@@enragedlemon3115 Pokemon Sword and shield needing dlc shortly after release to re put the cut pokemon :
Super Mario Party launched with only 4 maps
@@tlam3028 and it still only has 4 maps
@@enragedlemon3115 what’s wrong with new Horizons?
I don’t think Nintendo will be done with consoles after the Switch
They won't, especially since the Switch is the top selling system at the moment, by virtue of the competition being hindered by scalpers (including PC with the graphics card)...
@Jesus Pernia I would love to see that, and controller's that don't drift in a week or 2
True, I mean the Switches are flying off of the shelves right now😂
I think they might try to ride the train with another switch like console in the future, just for how long it's going to work is the real question. The appeal of the switch is that it's both portable and you can put it on your TV screen, but that will become the norm eventually at some point for all gaming publishers with the rise of cloud based gaming on which you can play on your phone, then your TV when you get home. Might seem far fetched right? But all the major platforms (Sony, Microsoft, even Google) are investing now on cloud base services, preparing for the future. So how is Nintendo going to keep up in that future, is what I think is going to be interesting to watch.
@@Emanouche if Nintendo gets cocky again the next switch like console could fail like how Nintendo flopped with the Wii U
“They truly care about everyone!
…for money.”
hahahahaha.
When has a business not cared about money that's like saying the sharks love seal's ....... to eat ummm due
@@joannaalmazan4508 Every company does, but Nintendo only wants the money, and just the money. Thry truly don't care about anyone and anything, they just want money.
@@3Dee_King well, every company wants just the money. Some companies are just more clever than others and don't show it to the customers. This way the customers like blind fools support those companies "that really care about them".
^ Corporations on Pride Month trying to get G$ (Gay Dollars) by changing their icon to a rainbow.
- sincerely, a gay person.
I've known this ever since Pokemon Uranium got shutdown, so the fact that everyone else goes along with it makes me laugh
Agreed. Stopping fangames is a beyond bad idea. Especially because they're essentially free advertisement.
Edit: Fangames also show the love the fans have towards a game or that game's concept and that's why I think fangames should stay still.
Muh copyright
Muh online services
Muh smesh bros
Nintendo gather all of your shit and get it sorted my gawd waht are yall doing
we know they'll be beyond saving when they take down the Dolphin Emulator
@@GoinGreninja Most fan game makers just need to use more than one braincell to realise, that literally naming your game after an existing franchise opens you up legal action. Heck, some fans are mad that Pokemon clones exist on the Apple Store and the Play Store and haven't been taken down for years... Here's the thing, Nintendo can't even take the first step in filing for action because their IP isn't anywhere near the game even though everyone knows they're all cheap and shameless rip-offs.
Also, free advertisement *to the people who are already fans of the business and their franchises?* Stop parroting this nonsense and think about this for one fucking second.
@@muizzsiddique you're not right, but you're also not wrong, I respect your argument as valid.
I am worried about Nintendos future. I'm concerned it will fall under the same practices as Blizzard. Which has gone to shit in the ost 4 years
Blizzard went to shit immediately after they sold to Activision.
Boy, Blizzard went to shit since late 2008.
Dang this comment aged
Or you know they could end up like sega
@@NapoleSkie627 If Nintendo ended up like Sega that would be great.
Japanese game companies are always like this. Our best bet is to wait for the old coots to retire and for new blood, who HOPEFULLY are more aware of what their consumers want, to replace them.
Nah that won't happen it's just going to be another out of touch old man
@@ramencup7132 It makes me wonder if they purposely screen for out of touch old guys whom won't know anything that can rock their boat too much.
@@kylehill3643 I hope they run out of out of touch old guys and have to resort to hip and cool, in touch old guys instead
id rather a "how do you do fellow kids" guy be in charge than an "i hate my wife" guy be in charge
The Switch was mainly designed by the younger guys at Nintendo so you might be onto something
This is like hearing your dad is a stalker murderer
Remember when the president of Nintendo during the GCN era called literally every third-party studio as, "useless". That's how arrogant they are.
Never forget Nintendo's Yakuza ties. And not good-guy Kiryu-style Yakuza, either, lol.
Yes. Nintendo made playing cards specifically for gambling and in fact still makes said playing cards.
Yo what
Hey elaborate, dont leave us like that!
Can You expand on it?
For real??! 😳
I think the problem with nintendo is their PR department is generally shit .
You say that, but the only reason people like them as much as they do is because of big PR wins.
I guess it's because Japan still is culturally isolated from the West. They probably think the Smash tournaments are like a few hundred people watching a dozend players.
It's almost as if no gaming company is your friend or something....
It's as I say, enjoy the games, not the company. Because the games are where the real passion is (In most cases), while the company is just an empty husk (In most cases).
You mean it’s almost as if no company in general is your friend or something...
None of them our our friends, but none of them are entirely evil either. Some are worse than others. When you think about it, Nintendo is on the "better" side. I do not mean better as in being bad. I mean better as in being okay.
Nintendo is worse than not your friend. They're far more actively malicious than other gaming companies and hate their fans on many levels. That is the point.
wish people would understand that.
I grew up in the Iwata/Reggie era of Nintendo, a time I miss.
The sad thing is when Kid Icarus Uprising, which was released when Iwata was alive and kicking, still had an advertisement campaign that led to KIU ending up with a glitch that allowed for accessing the Home menu while the game screen was set to anything IRL, which led to lewd screenshot posting on Miiverse. Well, there was still perversion on Miiverse regardless, but the screenshot glitch made it spike. Just.....WHY is TLC becoming more and more of an alien concept nowadays?
What does TLC stand for?
The learning chan el?
@@isauldron4337 Tender Loving Care.
No they meant the 90s hip hop and R&B group TLC ofc XD
@@isauldron4337 The Learning Company.
Yeah I hate the shit Nintendo’s pulling. I’m only going to be buying from the aftermarket from now on, really don’t want to give Nintendo any more money
I am the same boat.
Honestly, retro computing is the future for me. Mainly because despite the age of some of these old computers. They still get games as if its still 1985. And they don't cost alot to buy the games for
well if you dislike nintendo for openly being like this i think youd find the works of a few philosophers who critique this and also what this kind of behaviour stems from
(f.e. peter kropotkin or marx)
Ahh yes I see the debate inbound
@@nikolastanojevic4983 communist apologist
That whole Iwata era was so quirky and full of life. He and Reggie were such a good duo.
@@M64bros dude shut up, why can't you let me reminisce in peace? Leave me alone (i don't even own a playstation)
@@sarcasm-aplenty You are so naive
Minidisks were used outside of the GameCube, but they weren't used that much.
Edit:it used mini dvd thing.
i bought a digital microscope whose software installation disk came on a mini disk. that was odd
Remember the PSP?
@@wolfrage99 PSP used a different format. UMDs were not Mini-DVDs, they were Sony's usual gimmick of being internally engineered proprietary garbage. Sony's always been worse than Nintendo in that regard, with everything from Betamax and MiniDisc to ATRAC and MagicGate.
Hardware drivers often come on them if they aren’t distributed over the internet. The difference is the GameCube still used an expensive proprietary optical format that only they could make. Yeah Sony also did that but they’re also the ones who make generic disks too
The GameCube was a decent system, the last respectable home console Nintendo made. But those mini discs, what a moronic move. Nintendo greed struck again and almost killed them.
People have been saying that Nintendo is going to go out of the console business for decades.
If you look at sales of the switch, yeah that really isn't happening anytime soon.
@Jesus Pernia Right, but this whole video is about how they have always done that
@Jesus Pernia you will wait a long time then.....
And the switch is outselling the PlayStation.
@madan pal so the switch will be the 3rd best selling console in history..??
It's also worth mentioning that most of the major products that have come since Iwata's passing were still directly tied to his decisions, namely the Switch itself and especially Zelda: BotW.
A lot of my old new super mario bros videos are being blocked by youtube for simply being new super mario bros
I really feel you about games that are offline, don't need wifi, have no microtransactions... That just are what they are in a box upfront. I was super into my N64 and even the Game Cube, but I dropped out of gaming when it went online.
You didn’t get the wii?
As someone who grew up in the 64, gamecube and wii era. I had no idea that the 64 and gamecube did comparably bad. I have so many wonderful memories with the games and my cousins
Damn man... I wanna say you’re wrong but..
Always sucks when things that used to bring us magic turn out to be corporate husks.
I guess the moral of the story is to praise the people, the creators, not the company, because they just care about growth, not making magic
"Nintendo is an awful company now"
That should put in perspective just how incredibly awful every other company is.
No.
Nintendo is bad.
@@laurenedney7 And they're considered better than the other big game companies, so if Nintendo is awful, the rest must be fucking diabolical, which they are.
@@laurenedney7 its not an opinion it was a joke lol.
Fr. Atleast Nintendo makes good first party games. What does that say about blizzard, who deliberately nuder their games to appeal to the casual market, alienating their fans. What about EA, with their massive graveyard of dead studios. Konami, treats their employee's and even their directors less than dirt.
Point is, late stage capitalism fucking sucks.
@@lukebytes5366 Don't forget companies forcing their workers into crunch situations, 100 hours work weeks and the like.
I have been telling people for 3 decades but got mostly hated for.
I am glad this is made aware of.
Because your not a popular YT guy so only the popular ones get praised.
The Ethika one was being sold by a guy who is not the most honest characters
People don't really do research Into these things
Yeah he should of addressed it immediatly becasue it was crowd funded
@@AtomicOwl often its pure bias
@@AtomicOwl Have you?
@@BitchChill Why would he call it out and mention in other comments for rational and useful information than the rest then?
I like how they think they can stop people from pirating their games now. Lol
They don't even care dude
Plot Twist: Disney secretly acquired Nintendo in secret.
Secretly
@@alexsartandgameschannel3883 EA Games has acquired Nintendo in secret.
Whatever anti consumer practices nintendo has it doesnt come close to the mainstream console market. From paying fullprice for a day one download like red dead 2 to having literal ads in between loading screens like 2k and death stranding. Fuck that you wanna play 9/10 games anywhere you want you go nintendo. At least the micro transactions stay on your phone and not on your console
well thats a good point
Still just because the competition is worse doesn’t mean they can do this
@@cosmicspacething3474 Agreed. But they'll get more money this way, so they won't bother.
Yall ready for when Mario Kart 9 costs $60 and is full of microtransactions
"They're not EA" until they are
@@AkameGaKillfan777 not because of lack of trying.
Ever since Iwata passed, Nintendo really ramped up sueing people for “copyright infringement” for just posting content about their games. It’s really sad.
People will probably assume that youre shitting on nintendo, but youre not. Its a really informative video, especially with that Blue Ocean/Red Ocean strategies!
people can't shit on nintendo for some reason.
As a kid, I needed Nintendo in my life. As an adult, I just can't seem to stand this company. I'm just glad Steam Deck is a thing now.
Steam Deck isn't really a competitor to the Switch.
Unfortunately.
For $50 more and access to windows and linux? You’re right it isn’t a competitor. It’s the outright winner.
@@fufufemi right? But it's not really for casuals which is the switches main market. If anything I'd still buy a switch over it as I don't care enough about fancy games only playing stuff for casuals
I can think of a lot of anti-consumer decisions during the Iwata era, mainly the short stock of the amiibos and NES classics. A lot of the issues smash tournaments had with smash were also in this era, where tournaments were not allowed to play modded games or be sponsored by Nintendo. Correct me if I’m wrong but I’m pretty sure Iwata outlasted Project M.
Man, people toss "Anti-consumer" out so swiftly without it really being the case.
No better than the quick labeling of racists on Twitter.
@@rayminishi689 yeah lets just call it for what it really is, GREED.
Hmm, my potato chips were less crispy than this audio.
Nintendo has completely owned the handheld market since the OG gameboy. That kept them a afloat while they got their lunch money stolen by Sony with the 64 and the GC. People thought the WiiU was an add on. They didn't see the point in buying a $250 add on. It really was marketed poorly but it was a good idea which is why they redid it with the Switch which is just a reworked WiiU.
They're on pace to break the PS2's sales record.
also, the leaked documents shows that Nintendo when complete surveillance on a homebrew hacker.
so much for a “family-friendly” company.
They what?
I worked at NOA for about a year, after being scalped from Xbox. Everything you said about them is spot on. Everything.
Was it a fun job?
@@HenrikoMagnifico My guess is no.
Give us proof.
Look what they did to the combat system in the new Paper Mario
It’s pretty fun in my opinion
@@LukeSkywalker-zv3xy keyword "opinion"
just in case people don't get it.
@@kiwifluorite just in case we get a repeat of that 600 comment long thread about paper Mario soundtracks.
Music and story is good but gameplay and characters are boring
@@iljaradenkovs7150 I wouldn't mind seeing that either
imagine if EA or sega did this everyone would be outrage, but because it is nintendo everyone just forgets about it.
You're telling me that a company founded more than a century ago to sell playing cards to gamblers and yakuza isn't totally ethical?
i always thought nintendo was the scum of the earth, just like most companys.
I don't think Nintendo defending the Yakuza is the reason they suck now.
@@biivamunner3122 necro posts are so much fun.
@@robertsyrett1992 I admit I'm an idiot for doing that, but that doesn't devalue my point.
@@biivamunner3122 Well I didn't say Nintendo defended the Yakuza, rather they catered to the gambling needs of said mobsters by printing making the games they used to gamble. So I don't really understand what point you were trying to make (and don't feel the need to argue in a comment section). But sure, Nintendo is allowed to suck for other reasons as well.
Never before have I hated agreeing with an argument so much.
Unpopular opinion: while I respect the blue ocean strategy, I don’t think letting Nintendo characters be in multiple forms of media is actually that bad an idea.
ID love legend of Zelda an Mario on playstation
Let's not
It will cause a massive drop on console sales
Mario and Zelda games on CDi
He means movies and amusement parks guys
I'm very happy you made this, as much as I absolutely love Nintendo games people have this image of this infallible quote unquote "good" company, completely failing to recognize that it's impossible to get to that level of growth without stepping on toes and overall being shitty
thank you!!
Interesting topic but seriously fix the audio, with a headphone it is really uncomfortable to hear.
it's artistic
@@santiagocarrer7394 would it be artisitc if the video was only 240p?
@@santiagocarrer7394 From the perspective of a Gen Z, making the audio or the video crappy to be "artsy" is moronic.
@@jaredballoonboy7944 idk, maybe he just broke his , why are you guys complaining about such a small detail anyways
@@santiagocarrer7394 I don't really care about audio specifically. I just don't agree with your opinion that deliberately doing something of lower quality is artistic. That is all.
I liked Nintendo until Switch came out.
Now this video proves why.
The switch really was more popular than it deserved to be.
OH MY GOD IM NOT THE ONLY ONE
I'd like to know why you guys think this? I think it's a pretty dope thing.
@@TURBOMIKEIFY i haven't found any *really* good games on it personally, also the marketing strategies are a really big turn off for me, it makes it harder for me to buy games since i don't have a lot of money.
@@bob-omb1217 I do understand the marketing thing and how expensive they are but..
THE GAMES?? WHAT??
You mean to tell me that BOTW.. A game the revolutionized open world games and was 2017's GOTY isn't enough? How about Mario odyssey? The mario game that also was nominated for GOTY and got back to it's Mario 64 and sunshine routs and perfected them! What about Smash Ultimate? The biggest and the most balanced Smash to date!! (according to the pros like Hungry box and Leffen)
Mario kart 8 deluxe.. Mario maker 2..Splatoon 2..Animal crossing and all the sequels in development?
All of these games are not *GOOD ENOUGH* ??
Never understood why regular consumers defend and fight for their preferred big companies
What’s the incentive? You aren’t getting anything from it besides whatever content you pay for. Nintendo don’t give a shit if you argue about games
The Wii saved Nintendo because it was cheap and available in a generation that was probably the overall most expensive for consoles of all time. I remember the garbage PS3 that came out first and was like $700+ if you could find it. The Wii also appealed to those casual gamers who would eventually turn to mobile gaming. Nintendo never really released any good games that took advantage of the Wiimote after the first couple of years.
Wii U was a joke, a slightly more powerful Wii with a big bulky garbage tablet controller and it could only handle one such controller.
I'm honestly not quite sure how the Switch has done so well. Probably in part Nintendo embracing third party (though often a generation behind) games more and having the mobile aspect to it.
Nintendo just doesn't know how to really make money. They'll release the classic consoles with 20 or so games but not include an option to purchase additional games and they also just let it sell out and then never make it again. And it's not like a N64 or Gamecube with the 20 "best" games will be that amazing. Almost entirely their own games.
Nintendo has such a tremendous back catalog of games, they should just be releasing them for Android and iOS on the cheap and rake in the cash.
Blue ocean strategy is when you look for unmet needs in a highly competitive market to create a new market segment. Nintendo did not use a blue ocean strategy with the release of the 3ds or wii u. They were focused on market retention.
I’d disagree that Iwata and Reggie were benevolent. It was Iwata who started cracking down on fan games and roms. It was Iwata who started the Nintendo Ninja stalking mobs. It was Iwata who kept cronies in positions to fuck up series like Paper Mario and Metroid
Yeah, Iwata also made pretty bad decisions in the process.
It was Iwata who thought Reigon-locking consoles was a good idea. It was Iwata who was pro-censorship. It was Reggie who mocked fans that wanted Mother 3.
But people eat it all up because Corporate Figures NEVER hide their true selves in public, right?
@@AkameGaKillfan777 To be fair to Reggie, he has no power to compel Nintendo Co. Ltd. to release Mother 3. He is a powerless sock puppet which might be an aftermath of the Sega debacle where the two branches are sniping at each other...
So Iwata was actively trying to sabotage Paper Mario and Metroid? I'm sorry, but that's incredibly stupid. At worst you could say that his decisions could have been misguided (the guy wasn't perfect after all), but you make it sound like he was screwing over Metroid and Paper Mario for no good reason. What would he gain in doing that? And if you are talking about Other M, that was Sakamoto's brainchild.
And it was Iwata who coded Pokemon Gold and Silver, started Smash with Sakurai and encouraged him on the project after Miyamoto was agaisnt using Nintendo characters, tasked the development of Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, slashed his salary after the failure of the Wii U, and was behind the development of the Switch. The guy was a team player to his employees. Let's not pretend that his tenure as president was completely irredemable.
@@AkameGaKillfan777 So you are butthurt about that gag about Mother 3?
You realize that Mother is such a niche franchise that localizing it may not have been a financially sound business decision, do you? And you were Reggie, you would certainly get tired of being asked the same thing over and over. He wasn't blocking the localization for sure. Doubt that you are even bright enough to understand that all of this isn't quite as simple.
They don't even let us save Marin from being trapped as a seagull forever !
Even EA has learned that sometimes, having a pro-consumer attitude is good. When a company known for being as anti-consumer as possible is doing better then you are, you know you're doing something wrong.
Nintendo has gone full Disney.
It's a shame because I still love a lot of their stuff but good Lord, they got this anti-consumer thing almost down to an art. Not to mention they still CANNOT do online properly.
Mario Kart Online works.
Also, Disney is much more anti-consumer. Nintendo is just bumping their head into a wall.
@@fluffynator6222 Smash doesn't... Splatoon doesn't. They don't even have other games... Lel
@@IR4ndI0mIL0wIb0Ib
Okay, idk why they don't have servers for those tbh.
@@fluffynator6222 In the first place the online SHOULDN'T cost money, and there should just be a proper virtual console on the Switch
@@corn567
Because servers are free or what?
And you really prefer having to rebuy every game for every console?
It's of course more complex than that, when the Switch's success blew up long after than Iwata's untimely passing (even if he laid down the groundwork) and it's bizarre, restrictive decisions are rooted in its elderly, insular Japanese execs - it's a happy accident they've got strong IPs and creative minds keeping the company grounded and pulling them through all their self-induced crisis over the decades.
As you pointed out early, sometimes business mindset helps the marriage of creative industry into a mass market product, it certainly helped Nintendo in the NES era. Before that the game industry tore itself apart with cheap copy cats, crashing unreliable hardware/software and mountains of piracy, so a strict simple device that forced developers to make quality games and lasted a few years helped build a loyal audience. It's something to be said that despite fans being dedicated and vocal, they are the vocal minority, which can really tear industries apart when companies try to chase their demands instead of just creating good products with unique selling points. But too much conservative business and not enough creativity has the opposite effect too, many customers go elsewhere for their needs.
nintendo needs to stop getting so pissed off about us using mods
they would get so much more sells if they allowed us