It was all fight the power when they didn't have any. When they took their higher place in the totem pole, they forgot what it was like to be down here.
The same can be applied to any subject, we resent those in power, and those that are good at it are now in power. The exception is when someone is overly charismatic or hides their sins well.
WARNING I am the unprettiest human alive and I need YT to afford my house and the desires of my two girlfriends so please observe my highly stimulating videos, dear jame
@Random Username you must have sensitive hearing or oversensitive headphones or speakers because the sound quality is just fine for me. Maybe I just don't have the ear for sound and sound mixing, so who's to say where the fault lies? Maybe Tyler's software is fucky. Maybe he's been using the same mic for half a decade or so
@@legoworksstudios1 I have to agree with @Random Username a bit. If I try to listen to this channel in my car it's tough on the ears. Almost headache inducing. It's not so bad with my bluetooth so I'm not mad and I get it, but it's an actual issue for some edge cases. He needs some sort of de-Ser software.
Fun fact: the creators of new vegas wanted to use an Elvis song for the new vegas radio but it would cost as much as making the game itself. They also wanted to use Marty Robbins' more popular song El Paso but settled on Big Iron for the same reason.
Honestly thats a silver lining, making over played very famous songs expensive to use, effectively forces game and media devs to try to find something a little more unique to use.
@@gugabalog But justice in the eyes of whom? What morals? Our morals. Therefore karma is just a fabrication made by humans so that they can feel comfortable about injustice.
@@Omnifarious42 karma is a separate idea from justice. Justice is primarily focused on punishment for disobedience to a rule or law. In the case of Metallica getting a copy strike on their own music it is Karma rather than justice because a law wasn't broken, but they still got punished as they were okay punishing others.
It's honestly scary the power these companies hold over technology, being able to halt the progression of an entire media format for a decade is no laughing matter.
And not to mention that people who are afraid of corporations support neo-liberal parties, which support corporate greed, and owners of mega conglomerates in power.
@@weiserwolf580 That's because their only other choice is also a Neo-liberal party who also supports corporate greed and owners of mega conglomerates in power, except that party is at least honest about it.
More than just bribes, they do congressmen’s jobs for them. Private interests like these companies and NGOs of all kinds write and propose the vast majority of bills to Congress-members, slip them a few basketball tickets and re-election funds, and tada! Why do you think many of these bills are hundreds of pages long?
Fun fact: did you know that lending money with piling up interest was an illegal practice in most of Europe for a VERY long time? And right now that is a norm of life. Funny how this works, eh?
@@nbewarwe I don't understand that argument. You're saying instead of voting for a Democrat who might lie to me, it's better to vote for Republicans who I know will actively hurt me?
A friend of mine, who used to be in a band in the early 2000s, said he leaked their newest album early on Limewire and when thet started touring for it everyone already knew the lyrics. That was his intention. ;)
Piracy gets a wider audience which sells more albums/merch/live tickets in the future. It also gets children who have no money become fans and start spending when they start earning an income. Everyone knows it's free publicity, it's just megacorps want ALL the money ALL the time until it destroys them for short term vision.
Piracy actually tends to be more beneficial to companies and creators ironically. I have bought merchandise for things that, if not for piracy, I would never have experienced. And this is not uncommon. Just look at how big anime is now adays, it's entirely do to fan subs that western audiences got to experience the content.
people talk a lot of shit about how we'd have flying cars if it weren't for religion and the dark ages.... where would we be technologically if we didn't have capitalism? i'm pretty sure energy would be free
@@alonedownthere47 Uh sir the world was still improving because of the Arab Golden age. Medicine, Arithmetic, and Greek Literature were all improved and expanded on by during the Abbasid caliphate and the dark ages. Muhammad was also a merchant so commerce also improved in Arab nations
DAT even had the possibility of sounding slightly better than CDs. We never got to experience that because no albums were professionally made for the format though.
Ironically it has also caused a lot of small musicians to get a chance to be featured since larger channels need something they can safely play so they pick start-ups or other channels.
@Dexhead well when I click on his profile pic it only shows that he made two comments. Or wait don't tell me, either there were other comments that he made and got deleted, or he's using multiple accounts?
"Beer GOOD! Money GOOD! Napster BAAAD!" - James Hetfield There were so many flash parodies taking the piss out of Metallica during their suit against Napster and Napster's founder. Those few years EVERYONE hated Metallica.
Remember when iTunes used to only sell you a single copy of the song... and if something happened to that copy, you had to buy another? And on a side note, the record industry made HUGE profits from CDs. Unlike cassettes, which were actually expensive to manufacture and had to have the music recorded on to them, CDs could just be stamped out like records had been. But the record industry decided to charge more than cassettes cause FU.
CDs were $20 when they came out in the 80's which was double the price of cassette. It wasn't until CD piracy started happening in the early 90's did the price start to drop, but then music industry invented the greatest hit album to get you to buy songs all over again. By 2000's though internet and MP3s just made it too damn easy to share and copy music, is it any wonder they created new tentacles to cover the entire web and control it with an iron fist whilst making boomers think it was justice.
@@CBRN-115 If you think greed and selfishness are traits unique only to boomers, then you're living in youthful ignorance. These traits have been with people for as long as history tells us and it's not likely that they'll end anytime soon. Certainly not when boomers pass away, and likely not when us youths of today take their place. The best we can do today is learn from their mistakes, and be better people for it.
Eh, Teddy was just a band aid who was still on the side of the bourgeoisie. His whole new deal thing was him just telling his rich buddies "Look, if you don't give up some of your wealth, everyone is going to revolt and you will lose ALL of your wealth.".
@@MisterZimbabwe The fact you use the word bourgeoisie unironically tells me you're not very American and don't have much ground to speak on Teddy Roosevelt.
Yeah, aside from Megacorps in Big Tech, record companies are the most dystopian. If you research copyright law though, they are just the worst, not the only ones. Copyright law, a easy way to lose faith in humanity
I remember playing cyberpunk and getting the general feeling that this wasn't just a video game, or a piece of fiction representing a far off future. It was like looking in a fucking mirror.
So the idea of getting a law passed is bad? Lobbying for, say, solar panels, or lower taxes, or better transportation contracts is bad? I don't care which way you swing. Please don't vote.
@@the-Albino-Rhino laws can and have been passed without lobbying. Unless you're suggesting laws have only ever been passed in a capitalist democracy? Ya. Think before you talk shit.
General TL;DR of this whole thing ig "If something can be exploited, it will be milked and exploited and refused to evolve and change for a profit until the cow has been milked dry, and then everybody starves to death because you ran out of fucking milk to feed on. Especially if it involves mice."
if i ever saw lars in real life i would have a hard time not slugging him merely for being lars ulrich. such a hateable guy and he has no musical skill to back it up.
@@metallistener340 you mean this multi million album selling band? You seem like you don't like there music or actions. Which is fine but there all talented artists..
What’s brutally ironic, going back to that whole thing about Napster being a place for up and coming musicians, is what happened to Diamond Head as a result of Metallica. For those who aren’t aware, Diamond Head was one of the many bands that came out of the new wave of British heavy metal in the 1980s, along with Iron Maiden and various others. The thing was, Diamond Head was one of the biggest inspirations for Metallica as a band. If you listen to a lot of the early demo tracks prior to Kill ‘Em All, and the listen to Diamond Head’s debut album(Lightning to the Nations) you can see the similarities. Most Metallica fans know their cover of what is Diamond Head’s most famous song, “Am I Evil?”, along with this there were covers of “Helpless”, “The Prince”, and “It’s Electric” as well. While I think all of these covers are inferior to the originals on LTTN(Metallica changed the lyrical order and slowed the main riff on Am I Evil?, cut down the endings on Helpless and The Prince, etc) they helped introduce a wider audience to Diamond Head’s best. Either Sean Harris or Brian Tatler(can’t remember which) went on to say that Diamond Head would have died out without Metallica effectively copying them. What that lawsuit did was basically shut down any chance of someone else replicating what they did to Diamond Head and inadvertently helping the ones they covered. “Devil took my soul, but diamonds you repaid” ~The Prince, 1980
it kinda sucks because there are alot of kind people and places to see here in america. but alot of the time your gonna see the ignorant assholes on tv or the internet. i gotta say though, your probably going to be alright never coming here
Newsflash: every western country models their democracy on America. It's where we are all headed, deregulation and toothless government letting megacorps rule over us all. Cyberpunk here we come.
When music publisher become too greedy and finally starting to kill all of their own star slowly. Now imagine theres no other channel other than the creators can used their music. Then their music will not be marketed or listened free. RUclips is one of the best marketer, and they just plant their own mines to hurt themselves. And its just matter of time we wont hear any licensed/copyright music being used as covers, BGMs, memes or creators videos. Hell even their own concert become censored and nobody can share anything for free to all other fans that not even able to see them/attend any of their event live bcs of money, different parts of the world, etc. They basically killed music industries...
It'd be so tragic if it weren't so darkly hilarious. Like a King determined to insure the valuable things remain valuable to the point of genuine self-harm and eventual self-euthanasia to insure that no matter what: he will be a Wealthy King, and never a Pauper.
It doesn't always work, but at least here, natural selection is doing its thing. If they don't want their thing to spread, might as well respect that, and spread only the things of those who do want it spread. And give attention only to them.
In a way, it feel like it's happening right now. When you look at the current music landscape and who's on top, most of them have been there for over a decade now. Justin Bieber, Drake, Rihanna, Taylor Swift and the like of them, they've basically been there forever. They seem to have a really hard time finding new talents since many new pop artist can now self publish on the internet. At this rate, music publisher will disapear because their stars have died of old age.
@@Torlik11 It's partly that. Partly also that they want a guaranteed continual success and not a one hit wonder. There's a lot of investment that goes into advertising and merchandising a musician at that level, and the returns on that are much slimmer than they were even five years ago. Taylor Swift, P!nk, Katie Perry, and Bruno Mars keep getting promoted because they've sold more than one hit single in the Top 40.
@@deathshand6971 this is one of those things I was thinking recently, not only with music, but with media and life in general. No matter how something lasts more than anything else, everything in the end must die.
I think this video is good overall, and I love knowledge hub as a whole, but as a young musician, I feel like my place in this conflict has been overlooked and even smoothed over. Yes, technology has allowed for a ton more discoverability. But we have little to no ability to live off of that exposure. If copyright had been better preserved while also allowing for the growth of the digital marketplace, we might have been able to eat off of record sales as artists did in the 90s. But now, only labels make money off of streaming. Our only income is from breaking our backs on tour (which only turns a profit at a certain success level) and merch, which means that successful musicians aren’t primarily musicians anymore. We’re t-shirt designers. Yes, there’s patreon, but that’s incredibly unreliable and further forces us to be things we’re potentially not. If the digital marketplace were allowing our art to be “public good” like libraries, then we would get paid by the government. Because libraries pay writers and publishers for books in their collection. I’m not supporting the music industry’s actions here. But treating them like pure villains overlooks how, more and more, making music is the luxury of the privileged. Because people aren’t paying for our work
Consider this: there was a time before the phonograph when musicians had to make a living without physical copies of their works being sold to people across the country/world. Physical recodings have run their life cycle, so now musical performers have to go back and relearn how to make a living, which includes live performances among other things.
@@sassycat Bruh that is ridiculous. We live in a digital world and it is the future. Nobody is saying movies or video games have to go back to the theatre or board games. There is no going back. Music just has to learn how to make money from fans again and bands have to demand fair compensation, because streaming services are making billions and not sharing it out to the musicians who make them their money! They're the same old middleman denying royalties whilst they keep all the money, which is killing music which is killing themselves AKA massive short termism which killed the previous music industry.
@@cattysplat - correct, and then when the streaming services model dies (and it will), musicians need to be ready for whatever comes next. Stephen Foster wrote many popular songs but died a pauper, the same thing happened to Scott Joplin. Control your own musical fortunes, don't leave it in the hands of someone else.
@@sassycat That’s true, but I don’t think you’re taking into account just how much recorded music changed things. Before the phonograph, every town had tons of local musicians to play restaurants, weddings, alongside movies, etc. Now that part of the industry is almost entirely taken over by radio, jukeboxes, djs, or owners just putting Spotify on a speaker. Live music can no longer support anywhere near the amount of musicians it used to. All of the money is in records, but because of piracy, if we don’t put our music on streaming services, we make even less than the .004 cents per stream we make now, and then streaming services reap the rewards. To go back to my original point more directly: there are very few jobs for “musicians” anymore because we can’t make money from our music. We have to be merch designers, advertisers, and event planners instead, just to support our music habit. Which has only become true in the past decade or so. If copyright were better protected, I think music would be a much more viable career path, so there would be more of it for us all to enjoy
One thing you forgot to mention about metallica. Is that the band owns their own music now, and actually is allowed to release it as they wish, even for free. I got free digital copies of new albums when I bought show tickets
Yeah they've got their own label as well - called Blackened (after the song) - and have been rereleasing their older albums from their own label, all within bundles of demos and live stuff. Not cheap mind, but I don't really believe it'll spell the end for Metallica any time soon - after all I'm still fairly young, 20 years old, and I've been listening to their stuff almost all my life and still love it. Yeah the Napster lawsuit was pretty crap, I do believe music should be for the people, and seeing them get muted for their own song on stream was pretty funny, but I'll still love their music - even the "angsty" Load era phase I have appreciation for
loved the way you tackled the subject, putting emphasis on the business side of things, similiar to your videos about games i think. learned a whole lot i didn't know before. well-made as usual :)
Musician/artist here. You were spot on in this video, I just wanted to add my two cents. Napster/other free digital music distribution platforms opened the floodgates to mass piracy. And while many small artists benefited by starting to grow a fan base, they still didn't earn money. In that time EVERYONE would pirate films and music so most people barely had the incentive to pay for it. As artists we can't buy groceries from exposure. That being said, the RIAA obviously went too far. People were spoiled by the convenience of digital audio but artist (and label income) was heavily affected. I don't really feel sorry for labels but artists should absolutely get paid for their work. This resulted in a compromise that is music streaming (eg Spotify). People could now listen to any music for free with ads or for a small price without ads making it very accessible, but individual streams don't pay much to artists. Lots of people criticize streaming platforms and honestly I don't know what a good solution would be, because the consumer will always insist on holding onto convenient things (not a bad thing, just a fact). Small artists can get discovered more easily than ever, but the only ones getting paid the big bucks are the major labels and artists still. That being said, the existence of music streaming and affordable/improving technology has definitely made music making more accessible which is a great thing for creatives I also wanted to leave a correction about artist income. You said artists make most of their money from concerts and merch. That is true today but it wasn't always that way. Before digital audio, physical record sales DID contribute to a large portion of an artist's income. The concerts were more of an advertisement for fans to buy the record, because record sales were higher. Then music piracy turned it all on its head and now, recorded music serves as an advertisement to the live shows (since the record doesn't earn as much anymore). This is a major change and all artists big and small were not sure how things would turn out while the world was transitioning into the digital era. I was too young back then but it must have been a scary and uncertain time. And now we have the present day where a global pandemic made countless live shows impossible.... It's still a scary and uncertain time. What I'm trying to say is PLEASE support independent creators, they need it and also sometimes you might just be surprised by the quality of their work
Not disputing anything you've said, but I remember lots of news articles about artists suing their labels over unpaid royalties over the years. The method by which people consume recorded media has changed, and as we know change is inevitable. Look at the big names like Crosby and Dylan who've sold their catalogs recently. It's affecting everyone. But yes absolutely support your local artists. 💯%
Many musicians have moved to streaming their music and performances on Twitch, where fans can sub/donate/buy merch and have a much more interactive experience and feel a part of the show. You may doom and gloom about the old music industry but the truth is it's always changing, people will always want music and want to be more than just consumers, they want to be fans and bands can and should find ways of using that for an income since it gives both sides what they want, just without big industry getting in the way and taking it all. Personally I hate going to real shows because of the time and cost in travel, drinking alcohol being the focus of the venue instead of the music, the ticket prices were also massively inflated and people stopped going to many of them unless they were mainstream. To the younger generation everything is online, so music needs to move to an online world, there is no fighting it, it is the future but it is not all bad, it could actually be better than ever.
Artists can still make money, but without enforcable copyright law, it can't be by the old method of selling media. Now it's more about building a relationship with fans - patreon and such, and the merchandising if you're big enough. Most artists will fail to make a living, yes - but that's always been the case. For every superstar you hear on the radio, how many hundreds of bands are playing in someone's garage and hoping to make it big one day?
@@cattysplat >people want to be more than just consumers really? In my experience all people are is consumers. They don't care how they get it, they just want to get it. If that means fucking over the artist, they will do so. There is no point in fighting it, that's just the natural progression of things, but that doesn't mean I have to like it or justify it. Prices for live shows are inflated because no one can make money from sales anymore. And your last comment is what's real scary. Should we shut ourselves inside at all times? I'm of this generation and I say fuck that. I love going to shows and I wouldn't want that experience to change. Anyone who wants to watch a live show from twitch can feel free to do so but if and when that becomes the new standard, I'll be sure to curse humanity even more then i already do.
Best video in a while. Good balance of classic, history-based Knowledge hub, absurd visuals, a kiss of cynicism, a sprinkle of vidya gemu, and full-circley wrapped-upedness
And once again recycle the same shit instead of making something new is the game industry turning into hollywood sometimes you just need to end the story instead of adding to it for money and that doesn't go into if it a good idea to add more to it as it could destroy the series
@@MatanVil it's because the stock market don't follow real world logic. The companie is worth what businessmen and stock traders think it's worth, which usually have nothing to do with the real value of the companie. You only have to look at how some companies instantly lost millions in value because of bad PR or things like the CEO leaving. Or the rencent Gamestop hedge fund story where some traders tried to artificially lessen the companie's value to make a quick buck.
i remember hearing from my older sister about Napster before it was shutdown, and after it was taken to court she told me how everyone at her High School was running to the city's library with their stack of laser disks to burn their songs onto them en masse. Even she got in on it, she still has those CDs with sharpie titles on them to this day I could only imagine the look of horror on Metallica's faces when they walked out of the court, smug about their victory, only to then hear about how Napster's traffic tripled almost overnight due to the coverage the case received. It would've been so cathartic
Mexican copyright laws are much worse, which is why so many of my favourite Mexican works could never really enter the public domain up until a century after their creators have died.
IKR. Everyone from older generations seems to hate the music we grew up/growing up with. But in reality mainstream is no longer the main place to listen to music, so older folks don't see the much more unique and interesting music that is being produced on the internet.
@@lukedetering4490 yea they might think you are listening to modern pop music but really you are just listening to hell step soviet wave or any other obscure genre of music that only exist in huge part thanks to the internet
Ig when mcr said in a song "I spent my high school career Spit on and shoved to agree So I could watch all my heroes Sell a car on TV" Ig that takes a whole new meaning....maybe?
Well, it starts with ultra long lasting light bulbs that were possible for quite a while by now. Even incandescent bulbs... but who would sell them? Why should i sell you something that you only (have to) buy once? And charging 250 bucks per bulb is also not feasable.
I like listening to metallica. But they sure did fuck up when attacking napster probably had an ego moment when they were in the spot light at around the 80's and 90's. I've had those moments in life.
I doubt it was entirely their idea - probably a suggestion by their label, hoping that there would be more public support for a real band with real artists suing Napster than there would be if a faceless corporation took the same action.
@@vylbird8014 Probably not wrong. I bet some exec at a Record company said "Hey, lots of people are stealing your songs that you haven't released." They probably spun it in a way to make Metallica feel they're being robbed. I'd imagine both parties knew very little about Napster at the time.
I'm surprised you didn't mention how Spotify managed to negotiate such low pay per stream by offering record company execs stock in Spotify in order to cut the artists out of the revenue model.
I really like that point about corporatizing and commercializing classic rock. It's really sad that kids might grow up knowing the beatles as just the guys who made all those car commercial songs. That would break John Lennon's heart. Or just make him smash things. Either way hed probably be a little cheesed.
As much as I like Metallica and acknowledge them as an important band in pushing metal into wider appeal they've done a lot of damage to the industry as well with blitzkrieg lawsuits, insanely priced merch and shows, and of course how they changed copyright law forever. But if it wasn't metallica it would've just been someone else to be the raging bull at that time.
in the early-mid 2000s my sister was on a high school dance team. one of the ways they made money for the team was to sell recordings of their recitals to the families. i remember there being discussions in the booster meetings over “we’re not allowed to record and sell copies of the recitals if they dance to copyrighted music” it was completely fucking stupid
Funny how people always want their music for free, but then always bitch about musicians wanting more money, because platforms like Spotify barely give any money at all to the artist.
If I'm not mistaken there was a recent move to only ONLY prevent congressmen from lobbying after their term if they move to another organization. It died almost immediately.
I just don't understand why the rich and powerful become inherently evil Why do they do evil things? Like can they just chill in a secluded manor and NOT try to destroy people's lives or the environment?
You arent living in 1984 because music copywrite exists. its a great thing for music creators. I dont think someone who makes a great song should have to sell shirts to make money.
@@CBRN-115 It is simply the human spirit to want more even if you have everything. Their exponentially increasing greed will still destroy them in the end though. *When they realise they'll inevitably still lose everything*
i dont think Rich or powerful is necessarily evil, but when you copyright strike the author of the song and bribe government officials to make laws that benefit you (corruption in its most basic form) its crossing a line. I'm all for free market and corporations existing but there is a point where the state (if it fails we the people) should step in otherwise the U.S would be just a "Banana Republic"
Well done explainer! There is one detail you left out that causes havoc as well. American copyright laws do not align with copyright laws in the rest of the world. Most notoriously is terrestial royalties that are in Europe legit to collect but non-existant in America. Its weird and the copyright system of music requires a total global overhaul to meet current and future standards. I am working on it.
Great job! This is one of the most hilarious videos I've seen. Especially the jokes regarding Metallica, which I won't reveal here for fear of spoiling the fun for others.
Metallica were in the right with Napster. If an author had their book leaked on the internet and was being distributed for free then they would be upset about it. Now we're in a situation where music makes no money, and music has no value to most people. Most musicians can make no money from their music now as streaming services like Spotify pay their artists nothing unless you are absolutely massive.
@@yaboy821 that's only the situation now because they make no money from album sales. Touring and merch is their only revenue source, rather than one part of their income.
And with the Grammys aka Recording Academy losing viewership for not rewarding real artistry but it being confirmed that it’s always been about politics and favoritism, is just adding more fire to the music industry roaring flames.
Also in germany, if you are a Indi music maker, and want to give your music away for free, you can't.. Google "GEMA vermutung" They will actually sue you for copying you own selfmade music because they just assume your music is protected by them....
Spotify is mostly owned by the same 3 record conglomerates that own everything else, and is where the money goes. If you make legal streaming easier than piracy people will give it a go, that's the actual reckoning of the Napster saga.
It cracks me up seeing people from outside the music industry talk about these things. I definitely don’t agree with everything that the giants of the music industry does/has done over the years, but they were absolutely right to be terrified of the digital revolution. The music industry today still makes less money than it did in the 1970s. Countless jobs in the industry were lost in the mid 2000s, and that’s before the recession hit. A lot of good came from digital music, but it was definitely a mixed bag and far from all positive. Even if you want to look at the smaller bands point of view on this. Yes, there are countless more opportunities for your music to be heard, but because there’s nowhere near as much money going around as there was in the early 2000s, labels do next to nothing to develop up and coming artists today. You basically have to already have a fully packaged act in order for a notable label to be interested in working with you. That takes quite a lot of money, so basically you’ve got to have rich parents, or be willing to go broke to be able to do these things. And I’m not saying you can’t point to artists and say _____ did it without doing that. Yes, outliers exist, but that’s what makes them outliers. Even for those who do “make it” in music, you’re basically forced to tour 300 days out of the year to stay financially afloat. Streaming payouts are not sustainable. And yes; musicians love playing live typically, but that’s not exactly the most peaceful lifestyle. And since Covid, touring coats have skyrocketed. One band recently stated their bus costs have increased by over $2 million since their pre Covid tours. This was a bigger band, so I’m not saying that this applies to most bands, but no one really thinks about just the busses for a tour costing 1-5 million for a band to tour. That’s not even counting paying the staff, the gear, etc. To be clear, I’m not talking about the 1% or the music world selling out arenas. They still make plenty of money. I’m referring to the artists playing 1-5000 seat venues, the mid level and lower. My point here is, yes I think you nailed one aspect of this. I liked the video; however there’s a whole other level of impact thwt is much less positive that could only be covered if the video was 3x longer.
I know it’s been talked about plenty, but we also need to change the whole “it’s easier to moderate with an algorithm” thing. It’s not like it’s just gonna go away.
The ironic element on top of this is that a number of those 80s rock songs were fight the power anthems
Fighter the Power!!
Wait, I'm the Power? Don't Fight! Don't Fight!!
@@themaskedmysadaean8885 it’ll do your heart so good?
It was all fight the power when they didn't have any. When they took their higher place in the totem pole, they forgot what it was like to be down here.
Uh, really? Like what? Not sure any of the songs played in the video fit that bill.
The same can be applied to any subject, we resent those in power, and those that are good at it are now in power. The exception is when someone is overly charismatic or hides their sins well.
Let me play the world’s smallest violin to express my condolences for the music industry...
Careful what you play on that world’s smallest violin, it might get taken down by a bot.
WARNING I am the unprettiest human alive and I need YT to afford my house and the desires of my two girlfriends so please observe my highly stimulating videos, dear jame
*THIS COMMENT HAS BEEN TAKEN DOWN ON COPYRIGHT GROUNDS FROM UNIVERSAL MUSIC GROUP*
Sorry buddy, that's a copyrighted song you just played. Hand over the ad money 🤲
@@dr.skinnypenis2078 *[Redacted]*
“US of fuck you in the A”
How did I not hear this before? Can’t wait to use it.
that is beautiful. that's my new favorite phrase.
I then was hearing that, poetic phrase.
wut.
2:12 “See here in the US of ‘fuck you in the’ A”
Imagine paying a million dollars for a band to show up only for them to get muted
@Random Username whos mike
@@floppa_9530 Mike Ockisth Robbing
@Random Username you must have sensitive hearing or oversensitive headphones or speakers because the sound quality is just fine for me. Maybe I just don't have the ear for sound and sound mixing, so who's to say where the fault lies? Maybe Tyler's software is fucky. Maybe he's been using the same mic for half a decade or so
@@floppa_9530 Mike and his friend Ike. The boys who make candy shaped like cyanide pills down the block.
@@legoworksstudios1 I have to agree with @Random Username a bit. If I try to listen to this channel in my car it's tough on the ears. Almost headache inducing. It's not so bad with my bluetooth so I'm not mad and I get it, but it's an actual issue for some edge cases. He needs some sort of de-Ser software.
Sometimes, trying to avoid something only causes it to happen like a prophecy or paradox. Well done Metallica
Self-fulfilled prophecy.
@@Shagamaw-100 “the most entertaining outcome is the most likely”
''one often meets his destiny on the road he takes to avoid it'' - Oogway, PhD
@@matheussanthiago9685 beat me to it
Oedipus: First time?
Tyler Then: these games suck, these games are really cool.
Tyler Now: Fuck copyright, here's why.
The Downward Spiral is still here...
Once you're in the downward spiral there's no escaping it, so you might as well aim for the bottom.
Tyler now knows what is he made for...and he ain't gonna stop..
Copyright is a joke these days
What are all of you talking about. This is an upward spiral.
Fun fact: the creators of new vegas wanted to use an Elvis song for the new vegas radio but it would cost as much as making the game itself. They also wanted to use Marty Robbins' more popular song El Paso but settled on Big Iron for the same reason.
Big Iron is better for the gane anyways
What Elvis song?
@@vynonyoutube1418 from my speculation that would've worked would be Jailhouse Rock but who knows 🤷🏻♂️
@@Elvis-Pelvis03 probably so, there is literally a faction called the kings with clothing called "jailhouse rocker"
Honestly thats a silver lining, making over played very famous songs expensive to use, effectively forces game and media devs to try to find something a little more unique to use.
I was starting to think justice was fake, but Metallica getting a copyright strike for playing their own music has convinced me otherwise.
Sounds more like karma rather than justice.
Well, to quote one of Metallica's own songs:
Justice is lost
Justice is raped
Justice is done
Karma is just the idea of justice enforced by the universe. It's still just justice.
@@gugabalog But justice in the eyes of whom? What morals? Our morals. Therefore karma is just a fabrication made by humans so that they can feel comfortable about injustice.
@@Omnifarious42 karma is a separate idea from justice. Justice is primarily focused on punishment for disobedience to a rule or law. In the case of Metallica getting a copy strike on their own music it is Karma rather than justice because a law wasn't broken, but they still got punished as they were okay punishing others.
Lars was the primary driving force behind Metallica going after Napster. The rest of the band didn’t really care, at least initially.
A h y e s , t h e T r a s h m a n w I t h a c a n
@@deathshand6971 stop giving me St. Anger flashbacks
@@nukey18mon Hahaha!
@@nukey18mon *SNARE DRUMS INTENSIFIES*
When exactly did they all start decide to be doochbaggins
I feel piracy is slowly becoming more morally correct and more ligitimate than the legal practices of the actual media industry
Hoist the colours, ye scurvy'd seadogs!
With more supply the price goes down. With infinite supply the price becomes nonexistent
The only way to deny the corporation money is by not paying them. So yes.
@@sander10 clever
always has been
It’s a bribe... it’s just a bribe!
if that's news to people, i'm done
@So'mn unrelated but i could that pfp somewhere and i don't remember where or who it was...
@So'mn tell that to the 'holy sea' and the UN who recognizes it.
@@sirjmo Two entirely different meanings. The City of London is also a corporation.
It's honestly scary the power these companies hold over technology, being able to halt the progression of an entire media format for a decade is no laughing matter.
Good thing the internet is here, or else we'd be still using CDs
@@simpleinverso8628 Some of us actually still use CDs
-for me it’s because I drive an old car with a shit antenna but yeah-
@@olliegoria I actually use my mother's Sony Discman every once in a while.
CDs do offer superior sound quality
@@simpleinverso8628 until they get scratched
The cause is capitalism
Twitch: Did you pay to use that music?
Blizzard: We paid Metallica!
Twitch: But does Metallica own their music?
Metallica: I thought we did...
I love that the self proclaimed "guardian of western democracy" has legalized bribes (and people still wonder why corporations wield so much power)
And not to mention that people who are afraid of corporations support neo-liberal parties, which support corporate greed, and owners of mega conglomerates in power.
@@weiserwolf580 That's because their only other choice is also a Neo-liberal party who also supports corporate greed and owners of mega conglomerates in power, except that party is at least honest about it.
More than just bribes, they do congressmen’s jobs for them. Private interests like these companies and NGOs of all kinds write and propose the vast majority of bills to Congress-members, slip them a few basketball tickets and re-election funds, and tada! Why do you think many of these bills are hundreds of pages long?
Fun fact: did you know that lending money with piling up interest was an illegal practice in most of Europe for a VERY long time? And right now that is a norm of life. Funny how this works, eh?
@@nbewarwe I don't understand that argument. You're saying instead of voting for a Democrat who might lie to me, it's better to vote for Republicans who I know will actively hurt me?
A friend of mine, who used to be in a band in the early 2000s, said he leaked their newest album early on Limewire and when thet started touring for it everyone already knew the lyrics. That was his intention. ;)
Piracy gets a wider audience which sells more albums/merch/live tickets in the future. It also gets children who have no money become fans and start spending when they start earning an income. Everyone knows it's free publicity, it's just megacorps want ALL the money ALL the time until it destroys them for short term vision.
what band was he in?
@@kittykittybangbang9367 sorry for the late response- mclusky!
Piracy actually tends to be more beneficial to companies and creators ironically. I have bought merchandise for things that, if not for piracy, I would never have experienced. And this is not uncommon. Just look at how big anime is now adays, it's entirely do to fan subs that western audiences got to experience the content.
@@crooked9210
Turns our locking content behind a pay wall lowerw your potential audience
Imagine inventing a brand new format for music, expecting it to be the next biggest hit and bam your life's work is destroyed by boomers
Imagine not being a boomer and bam, your life is destroyed by boomers
people talk a lot of shit about how we'd have flying cars if it weren't for religion and the dark ages.... where would we be technologically if we didn't have capitalism? i'm pretty sure energy would be free
@@alonedownthere47 Uh sir the world was still improving because of the Arab Golden age. Medicine, Arithmetic, and Greek Literature were all improved and expanded on by during the Abbasid caliphate and the dark ages. Muhammad was also a merchant so commerce also improved in Arab nations
@Yeast Yeast Flying cars are overrated anyways. Why don't we look into the next best thing...cars that drive on land AND WATER!
DAT even had the possibility of sounding slightly better than CDs. We never got to experience that because no albums were professionally made for the format though.
Ironically it has also caused a lot of small musicians to get a chance to be featured since larger channels need something they can safely play so they pick start-ups or other channels.
Maybe the Metallica were the friends we made along the way.
Maybe the megatallicer is the journey that drives the engine to the convenience store of lyfe™
I think "we" need better friends.
Like the One Piece? Nah, that shits stupid
@@Garry_Combine What's wrong with One Piece?
@@pepperedash4424 I meant the friends along the way, I love One Piece, probs should've clarified
Fun fact: The most played song in Metallica’s live performances is "Master of Puppets", it was played 1,256 times.
Funfact the album is old enough to get recommended a prostate exam. The album is 35 years old.
Hey, friend. Good to see you on other videos I watch, too.
@Dexhead wdy, he only made two comments lol
@Dexhead well when I click on his profile pic it only shows that he made two comments. Or wait don't tell me, either there were other comments that he made and got deleted, or he's using multiple accounts?
@@deathshand6971 Old enough to run for US president
"Beer GOOD! Money GOOD! Napster BAAAD!"
- James Hetfield
There were so many flash parodies taking the piss out of Metallica during their suit against Napster and Napster's founder. Those few years EVERYONE hated Metallica.
Remember when iTunes used to only sell you a single copy of the song... and if something happened to that copy, you had to buy another?
And on a side note, the record industry made HUGE profits from CDs. Unlike cassettes, which were actually expensive to manufacture and had to have the music recorded on to them, CDs could just be stamped out like records had been. But the record industry decided to charge more than cassettes cause FU.
CDs were $20 when they came out in the 80's which was double the price of cassette. It wasn't until CD piracy started happening in the early 90's did the price start to drop, but then music industry invented the greatest hit album to get you to buy songs all over again. By 2000's though internet and MP3s just made it too damn easy to share and copy music, is it any wonder they created new tentacles to cover the entire web and control it with an iron fist whilst making boomers think it was justice.
@@cattysplat boomers are the enemy of mankind. They screwed up society and the whole earth, leaving us young people to clean their shit
@@CBRN-115 If you think greed and selfishness are traits unique only to boomers, then you're living in youthful ignorance. These traits have been with people for as long as history tells us and it's not likely that they'll end anytime soon. Certainly not when boomers pass away, and likely not when us youths of today take their place. The best we can do today is learn from their mistakes, and be better people for it.
@@hydrogendiamond5830 i doubt even us young people can fix everything. Humankind is inherently screwed up. We will most likely kill earth before 2100
We will have irrevocably changed the world by the time we become grandparents without any empathy at all.
I like how all these 80s metal bands are the most pro-establishmemt people around
Boomers gonna boomer
It's almost as if you grow up and realize your parents and the "establishment" before you were right all along
@@CBRN-115 they're mainly Gen X tho.
wow its almost as if when you have kids and a retirement plan its harder to be anti establishment. hell look at the DK's.
@@nightraven2975
Anything older than gen Z is boomer. Okay boomer?
Hmm jp Morgan. Rockefeller. And so on. we need another teddy roosevelt to brake this bs
Eh, Teddy was just a band aid who was still on the side of the bourgeoisie. His whole new deal thing was him just telling his rich buddies "Look, if you don't give up some of your wealth, everyone is going to revolt and you will lose ALL of your wealth.".
@@MisterZimbabwe Which Roosevelt are you referencing?
@@MisterZimbabwe The fact you use the word bourgeoisie unironically tells me you're not very American and don't have much ground to speak on Teddy Roosevelt.
@@Ecocristero3 Unlike you, the true American, indoctrinated since birth and never questioning it.
Wow, this entire thread is the biggest tumor I've seen in this comments section. Grats, really bringing back that 2010 feel.
Today I learned: The music industry is more screwed up than any drug based crime syndicate
You think those people aren't buying drugs?
@@BigBangAttack-mt6pz
Well I never said that
@@BigBangAttack-mt6pz There is a reason why they're buying and not selling
What if the Cartel *is* the music industry?
Always has been dawg
Can't wait for the army to play fortunate son in the recruitment ads.
I’m still waiting to hear “Holiday” or Suicide Machines’ “Your Silence”
Remember when the army used Godsmack?
And people say we don't live in a real life Cyberpunk Universe.
Yeah, aside from Megacorps in Big Tech, record companies are the most dystopian. If you research copyright law though, they are just the worst, not the only ones. Copyright law, a easy way to lose faith in humanity
I remember playing cyberpunk and getting the general feeling that this wasn't just a video game, or a piece of fiction representing a far off future.
It was like looking in a fucking mirror.
Man and we don't even get cyber dongs.
This isn't cyberpunk. This is 1984 dystopia
@@game_boyd1644 you know, art often comes from looking at ourselves.
That may explain why cyberpunk is like a self portrait of ourselves.
The entire concept of lobbying is such a bruh moment
Isn't lobbying just bribery? Tf is the difference?
@@CBRN-115
There is no difference, as much as some politicians and most corporations want you to believe otherwise
So the idea of getting a law passed is bad? Lobbying for, say, solar panels, or lower taxes, or better transportation contracts is bad?
I don't care which way you swing. Please don't vote.
@@the-Albino-Rhino laws can and have been passed without lobbying. Unless you're suggesting laws have only ever been passed in a capitalist democracy? Ya. Think before you talk shit.
That’s what happens with capitalism...
Your best work in my opinion. RIAA And MPAA always been pure evil.
Add FCC to that or the even worst Canadian CRTC.
Uhh why include the infamous Japanese Oricon?
short term gratification without looking into the future,hmmmmm I wonder which industry sounds like this *coughs gaming *coughs streaming services
Seems like no one has heard of "don't kill the golden egg laying goose" message
General TL;DR of this whole thing ig
"If something can be exploited, it will be milked and exploited and refused to evolve and change for a profit until the cow has been milked dry, and then everybody starves to death because you ran out of fucking milk to feed on.
Especially if it involves mice."
I'm gen z and like a lot of metallicas stuff but man have they made some really shitty decisions
Very agree
if i ever saw lars in real life i would have a hard time not slugging him merely for being lars ulrich. such a hateable guy and he has no musical skill to back it up.
Sad but true
Getting rid of Jason Newsted was one of them.
@@metallistener340 you mean this multi million album selling band? You seem like you don't like there music or actions. Which is fine but there all talented artists..
What’s brutally ironic, going back to that whole thing about Napster being a place for up and coming musicians, is what happened to Diamond Head as a result of Metallica.
For those who aren’t aware, Diamond Head was one of the many bands that came out of the new wave of British heavy metal in the 1980s, along with Iron Maiden and various others.
The thing was, Diamond Head was one of the biggest inspirations for Metallica as a band. If you listen to a lot of the early demo tracks prior to Kill ‘Em All, and the listen to Diamond Head’s debut album(Lightning to the Nations) you can see the similarities.
Most Metallica fans know their cover of what is Diamond Head’s most famous song, “Am I Evil?”, along with this there were covers of “Helpless”, “The Prince”, and “It’s Electric” as well. While I think all of these covers are inferior to the originals on LTTN(Metallica changed the lyrical order and slowed the main riff on Am I Evil?, cut down the endings on Helpless and The Prince, etc) they helped introduce a wider audience to Diamond Head’s best. Either Sean Harris or Brian Tatler(can’t remember which) went on to say that Diamond Head would have died out without Metallica effectively copying them.
What that lawsuit did was basically shut down any chance of someone else replicating what they did to Diamond Head and inadvertently helping the ones they covered.
“Devil took my soul, but diamonds you repaid”
~The Prince, 1980
Even though on Napster many songs were mislabeled
12:12
“the way to stop piracy is to make a service better than the pirates are offering”
Man, more I learn about how it works in USA, I have less about less desire to go there.
it kinda sucks because there are alot of kind people and places to see here in america. but alot of the time your gonna see the ignorant assholes on tv or the internet. i gotta say though, your probably going to be alright never coming here
Wait, what did you need to come here for anyway??
Pro tip don't it sucks here and always will.
Every country has their dark underside.
Newsflash: every western country models their democracy on America. It's where we are all headed, deregulation and toothless government letting megacorps rule over us all. Cyberpunk here we come.
When music publisher become too greedy and finally starting to kill all of their own star slowly. Now imagine theres no other channel other than the creators can used their music. Then their music will not be marketed or listened free. RUclips is one of the best marketer, and they just plant their own mines to hurt themselves. And its just matter of time we wont hear any licensed/copyright music being used as covers, BGMs, memes or creators videos. Hell even their own concert become censored and nobody can share anything for free to all other fans that not even able to see them/attend any of their event live bcs of money, different parts of the world, etc. They basically killed music industries...
It'd be so tragic if it weren't so darkly hilarious.
Like a King determined to insure the valuable things remain valuable to the point of genuine self-harm and eventual self-euthanasia to insure that no matter what: he will be a Wealthy King, and never a Pauper.
It doesn't always work, but at least here, natural selection is doing its thing. If they don't want their thing to spread, might as well respect that, and spread only the things of those who do want it spread. And give attention only to them.
In a way, it feel like it's happening right now. When you look at the current music landscape and who's on top, most of them have been there for over a decade now. Justin Bieber, Drake, Rihanna, Taylor Swift and the like of them, they've basically been there forever. They seem to have a really hard time finding new talents since many new pop artist can now self publish on the internet. At this rate, music publisher will disapear because their stars have died of old age.
@@Torlik11 Bingo.
@@Torlik11 It's partly that. Partly also that they want a guaranteed continual success and not a one hit wonder. There's a lot of investment that goes into advertising and merchandising a musician at that level, and the returns on that are much slimmer than they were even five years ago. Taylor Swift, P!nk, Katie Perry, and Bruno Mars keep getting promoted because they've sold more than one hit single in the Top 40.
Napster strikes back
Money good! Napster bad!
Tyler: "it's only a matter of time before they are a distant memory"
Me, looking at the Metallica shirt I am currently wearing: :(
All things must die. Wether or not you want them to. Time is the true victor.
Think of it this way, you'll have a collectible!
@@deathshand6971 this is one of those things I was thinking recently, not only with music, but with media and life in general. No matter how something lasts more than anything else, everything in the end must die.
@@deathshand6971 haiyaaa, so nihilistic
@@vvvnokk8309 but it's the truth
For whom the bell tolls... time indeed marches on
Me, a writer: Why does this feel familiar? Oh! Right! Amazon exists to destroy our hopes and dreams.
I think this video is good overall, and I love knowledge hub as a whole, but as a young musician, I feel like my place in this conflict has been overlooked and even smoothed over. Yes, technology has allowed for a ton more discoverability. But we have little to no ability to live off of that exposure. If copyright had been better preserved while also allowing for the growth of the digital marketplace, we might have been able to eat off of record sales as artists did in the 90s. But now, only labels make money off of streaming. Our only income is from breaking our backs on tour (which only turns a profit at a certain success level) and merch, which means that successful musicians aren’t primarily musicians anymore. We’re t-shirt designers. Yes, there’s patreon, but that’s incredibly unreliable and further forces us to be things we’re potentially not.
If the digital marketplace were allowing our art to be “public good” like libraries, then we would get paid by the government. Because libraries pay writers and publishers for books in their collection. I’m not supporting the music industry’s actions here. But treating them like pure villains overlooks how, more and more, making music is the luxury of the privileged. Because people aren’t paying for our work
Consider this: there was a time before the phonograph when musicians had to make a living without physical copies of their works being sold to people across the country/world.
Physical recodings have run their life cycle, so now musical performers have to go back and relearn how to make a living, which includes live performances among other things.
@@sassycat Bruh that is ridiculous. We live in a digital world and it is the future. Nobody is saying movies or video games have to go back to the theatre or board games. There is no going back. Music just has to learn how to make money from fans again and bands have to demand fair compensation, because streaming services are making billions and not sharing it out to the musicians who make them their money! They're the same old middleman denying royalties whilst they keep all the money, which is killing music which is killing themselves AKA massive short termism which killed the previous music industry.
@@cattysplat - correct, and then when the streaming services model dies (and it will), musicians need to be ready for whatever comes next. Stephen Foster wrote many popular songs but died a pauper, the same thing happened to Scott Joplin. Control your own musical fortunes, don't leave it in the hands of someone else.
@@sassycat That’s true, but I don’t think you’re taking into account just how much recorded music changed things. Before the phonograph, every town had tons of local musicians to play restaurants, weddings, alongside movies, etc. Now that part of the industry is almost entirely taken over by radio, jukeboxes, djs, or owners just putting Spotify on a speaker. Live music can no longer support anywhere near the amount of musicians it used to. All of the money is in records, but because of piracy, if we don’t put our music on streaming services, we make even less than the .004 cents per stream we make now, and then streaming services reap the rewards.
To go back to my original point more directly: there are very few jobs for “musicians” anymore because we can’t make money from our music. We have to be merch designers, advertisers, and event planners instead, just to support our music habit. Which has only become true in the past decade or so. If copyright were better protected, I think music would be a much more viable career path, so there would be more of it for us all to enjoy
@@kingzanderman1 - you make many fair and valid points, especially with regards to radio, streaming services, and DJ's.
One thing you forgot to mention about metallica. Is that the band owns their own music now, and actually is allowed to release it as they wish, even for free. I got free digital copies of new albums when I bought show tickets
It's not free if you had to pay money on something tangentially to get it.
you bought their albums for the price of show tickets
Yeah they've got their own label as well - called Blackened (after the song) - and have been rereleasing their older albums from their own label, all within bundles of demos and live stuff. Not cheap mind, but I don't really believe it'll spell the end for Metallica any time soon - after all I'm still fairly young, 20 years old, and I've been listening to their stuff almost all my life and still love it. Yeah the Napster lawsuit was pretty crap, I do believe music should be for the people, and seeing them get muted for their own song on stream was pretty funny, but I'll still love their music - even the "angsty" Load era phase I have appreciation for
loved the way you tackled the subject, putting emphasis on the business side of things, similiar to your videos about games i think. learned a whole lot i didn't know before. well-made as usual :)
That's why the name of the channel is knowledgehub
Looking for something to watch... "Uploaded 1 minute ago'.
Everything is coming up Milhouse!
Musician/artist here. You were spot on in this video, I just wanted to add my two cents.
Napster/other free digital music distribution platforms opened the floodgates to mass piracy. And while many small artists benefited by starting to grow a fan base, they still didn't earn money. In that time EVERYONE would pirate films and music so most people barely had the incentive to pay for it. As artists we can't buy groceries from exposure. That being said, the RIAA obviously went too far. People were spoiled by the convenience of digital audio but artist (and label income) was heavily affected. I don't really feel sorry for labels but artists should absolutely get paid for their work. This resulted in a compromise that is music streaming (eg Spotify). People could now listen to any music for free with ads or for a small price without ads making it very accessible, but individual streams don't pay much to artists. Lots of people criticize streaming platforms and honestly I don't know what a good solution would be, because the consumer will always insist on holding onto convenient things (not a bad thing, just a fact). Small artists can get discovered more easily than ever, but the only ones getting paid the big bucks are the major labels and artists still. That being said, the existence of music streaming and affordable/improving technology has definitely made music making more accessible which is a great thing for creatives
I also wanted to leave a correction about artist income. You said artists make most of their money from concerts and merch. That is true today but it wasn't always that way. Before digital audio, physical record sales DID contribute to a large portion of an artist's income. The concerts were more of an advertisement for fans to buy the record, because record sales were higher. Then music piracy turned it all on its head and now, recorded music serves as an advertisement to the live shows (since the record doesn't earn as much anymore). This is a major change and all artists big and small were not sure how things would turn out while the world was transitioning into the digital era. I was too young back then but it must have been a scary and uncertain time. And now we have the present day where a global pandemic made countless live shows impossible.... It's still a scary and uncertain time. What I'm trying to say is PLEASE support independent creators, they need it and also sometimes you might just be surprised by the quality of their work
Not disputing anything you've said, but I remember lots of news articles about artists suing their labels over unpaid royalties over the years.
The method by which people consume recorded media has changed, and as we know change is inevitable. Look at the big names like Crosby and Dylan who've sold their catalogs recently. It's affecting everyone. But yes absolutely support your local artists. 💯%
Many musicians have moved to streaming their music and performances on Twitch, where fans can sub/donate/buy merch and have a much more interactive experience and feel a part of the show. You may doom and gloom about the old music industry but the truth is it's always changing, people will always want music and want to be more than just consumers, they want to be fans and bands can and should find ways of using that for an income since it gives both sides what they want, just without big industry getting in the way and taking it all. Personally I hate going to real shows because of the time and cost in travel, drinking alcohol being the focus of the venue instead of the music, the ticket prices were also massively inflated and people stopped going to many of them unless they were mainstream. To the younger generation everything is online, so music needs to move to an online world, there is no fighting it, it is the future but it is not all bad, it could actually be better than ever.
Artists can still make money, but without enforcable copyright law, it can't be by the old method of selling media. Now it's more about building a relationship with fans - patreon and such, and the merchandising if you're big enough. Most artists will fail to make a living, yes - but that's always been the case. For every superstar you hear on the radio, how many hundreds of bands are playing in someone's garage and hoping to make it big one day?
@@cattysplat >people want to be more than just consumers
really? In my experience all people are is consumers. They don't care how they get it, they just want to get it. If that means fucking over the artist, they will do so. There is no point in fighting it, that's just the natural progression of things, but that doesn't mean I have to like it or justify it. Prices for live shows are inflated because no one can make money from sales anymore. And your last comment is what's real scary. Should we shut ourselves inside at all times? I'm of this generation and I say fuck that. I love going to shows and I wouldn't want that experience to change. Anyone who wants to watch a live show from twitch can feel free to do so but if and when that becomes the new standard, I'll be sure to curse humanity even more then i already do.
exactly two wrongs dont make a right
Best video in a while. Good balance of classic, history-based Knowledge hub, absurd visuals, a kiss of cynicism, a sprinkle of vidya gemu, and full-circley wrapped-upedness
Im so happy you are bringing up this Topic. Now u know the pain us musicians have to deal with
Basically the wordier, quirkier rundown of south parks Christian Hard Rock
Hey guys its joe nuts cco at Activision Lizard today we are announcing guitar hero revival oh wait haha just kidding its a free to play mobile game
It would be better if it was like a monthly subscription or just music packs (it's weird how this company still worth that many billions)
And once again recycle the same shit instead of making something new is the game industry turning into hollywood sometimes you just need to end the story instead of adding to it for money and that doesn't go into if it a good idea to add more to it as it could destroy the series
@@MatanVil it's because the stock market don't follow real world logic. The companie is worth what businessmen and stock traders think it's worth, which usually have nothing to do with the real value of the companie. You only have to look at how some companies instantly lost millions in value because of bad PR or things like the CEO leaving. Or the rencent Gamestop hedge fund story where some traders tried to artificially lessen the companie's value to make a quick buck.
@@MatanVil they should make music packs honestly, just like with Rock Band and Rocksmith, although they're gonna fuck it up in some way.
i remember hearing from my older sister about Napster before it was shutdown, and after it was taken to court
she told me how everyone at her High School was running to the city's library with their stack of laser disks to burn their songs onto them en masse. Even she got in on it, she still has those CDs with sharpie titles on them to this day
I could only imagine the look of horror on Metallica's faces when they walked out of the court, smug about their victory, only to then hear about how Napster's traffic tripled almost overnight due to the coverage the case received. It would've been so cathartic
Something ironic about rock and classic metal becoming the genre of choice for the Merchant's Guild's ads.
Why would I listen to “TNT” by ACDC when I can instead listen to “Trance Music for Racing Game” by Bobby Cole?
or "Crazybus Theme" by a n o n y m o u s v e n e z u e l a n
Or Theremonial by Javier Díez Ena, or Меня by Дурное Влияние
Or Plastic Love by Mariya Takeuchi, the wife of Tatsuro Yamashita?
We all can agree that your music is the best
yeah, i am still waiting for his singing of jonny's cash "old" version to be released.
Goofy's Moral Lesson is my favorite
Yeah.
I just realized that he sounds like Kermit
As a composer, extortatious copyright is my living nightmare...
Mexican copyright laws are much worse, which is why so many of my favourite Mexican works could never really enter the public domain up until a century after their creators have died.
I've been sick of the overused mediocre music in ads.
It makes me glad I'm figuring out how to produce my own for various uses.
Tbh many of the artists I listen to and buy shit from I only ever found on RUclips while listening to other artists music
IKR. Everyone from older generations seems to hate the music we grew up/growing up with. But in reality mainstream is no longer the main place to listen to music, so older folks don't see the much more unique and interesting music that is being produced on the internet.
@@lukedetering4490 yea they might think you are listening to modern pop music but really you are just listening to hell step soviet wave or any other obscure genre of music that only exist in huge part thanks to the internet
same
Ig when mcr said in a song
"I spent my high school career
Spit on and shoved to agree
So I could watch all my heroes
Sell a car on TV"
Ig that takes a whole new meaning....maybe?
@@cashnelson2306 tbh I'm pretty much brain dead what is the regular meaning
Now I'm just wondering how much innovation was suppressed to keep a company/industry profitable.
Well, it starts with ultra long lasting light bulbs that were possible for quite a while by now.
Even incandescent bulbs... but who would sell them? Why should i sell you something that you only (have to) buy once? And charging 250 bucks per bulb is also not feasable.
I like listening to metallica. But they sure did fuck up when attacking napster probably had an ego moment when they were in the spot light at around the 80's and 90's. I've had those moments in life.
I doubt it was entirely their idea - probably a suggestion by their label, hoping that there would be more public support for a real band with real artists suing Napster than there would be if a faceless corporation took the same action.
@@vylbird8014 Probably not wrong. I bet some exec at a Record company said "Hey, lots of people are stealing your songs that you haven't released." They probably spun it in a way to make Metallica feel they're being robbed. I'd imagine both parties knew very little about Napster at the time.
Nothing tickles me like seeing Lars being hoisted by his own petard
ok petard
I'm surprised you didn't mention how Spotify managed to negotiate such low pay per stream by offering record company execs stock in Spotify in order to cut the artists out of the revenue model.
Really?
I really like that point about corporatizing and commercializing classic rock. It's really sad that kids might grow up knowing the beatles as just the guys who made all those car commercial songs. That would break John Lennon's heart. Or just make him smash things. Either way hed probably be a little cheesed.
Why I love these vids: I went on a 2 hour deep dive on the girl scout story and it was literally in the video for 2 seconds.
As much as I like Metallica and acknowledge them as an important band in pushing metal into wider appeal they've done a lot of damage to the industry as well with blitzkrieg lawsuits, insanely priced merch and shows, and of course how they changed copyright law forever. But if it wasn't metallica it would've just been someone else to be the raging bull at that time.
in the early-mid 2000s my sister was on a high school dance team. one of the ways they made money for the team was to sell recordings of their recitals to the families. i remember there being discussions in the booster meetings over “we’re not allowed to record and sell copies of the recitals if they dance to copyrighted music” it was completely fucking stupid
"Being the true fight the system punk metal heroes they aspired to be, they went straight to their lawyers". XD
This is why I'm one of those "they went downhill after the black album" people
The beginning of their end lulz
It must be connected to their hair length
I'm that they went downhill at the BLACK ALBUM guy it's too safe and commercial friendly
Load > the Black Album
The Black Album fucking sucks.
Funny how people always want their music for free, but then always bitch about musicians wanting more money, because platforms like Spotify barely give any money at all to the artist.
I kinda miss this surreal era of KnowledgeHusk's videos
If I ever get rich I’m gonna lobby to remove lobbying
Good luck, we're counting on you when you do.
*Lobbies to end your lobbying to end lobbying*
@@lukedetering4490 *lobbies to end your lobbying to end the other guy's lobbying to end lobbying*
@@stuckonaslide You were the chosen one! It was said you would destroy the lobbyists not join them.
If I'm not mistaken there was a recent move to only ONLY prevent congressmen from lobbying after their term if they move to another organization. It died almost immediately.
The one who digs a pit for others often end up falling into it themselves
if I can wake up to something like this every day i wouldn’t be living in orwells 1984
I just don't understand why the rich and powerful become inherently evil
Why do they do evil things? Like can they just chill in a secluded manor and NOT try to destroy people's lives or the environment?
You arent living in 1984 because music copywrite exists. its a great thing for music creators. I dont think someone who makes a great song should have to sell shirts to make money.
@@CBRN-115 It is simply the human spirit to want more even if you have everything. Their exponentially increasing greed will still destroy them in the end though.
*When they realise they'll inevitably still lose everything*
if orwell came back from the dead to see what people are saying is like 1984, he would climb back into his grave and start rolling.
i dont think Rich or powerful is necessarily evil, but when you copyright strike the author of the song and bribe government officials to make laws that benefit you (corruption in its most basic form) its crossing a line.
I'm all for free market and corporations existing but there is a point where the state (if it fails we the people) should step in otherwise the U.S would be just a "Banana Republic"
9:42 The way you said it so ominously over that footage made it seem like that guy is some kind of comic book villain called The Publisher
Well done explainer! There is one detail you left out that causes havoc as well.
American copyright laws do not align with copyright laws in the rest of the world. Most notoriously is terrestial royalties that are in Europe legit to collect but non-existant in America.
Its weird and the copyright system of music requires a total global overhaul to meet current and future standards.
I am working on it.
One of your Best videos, and the Best non geopolytical one. Kudos!!!!
Tyler seems to have a massive vendetta against Metallica that doesn’t stem from Napster.
Same, it actually might have stemmed from their definitely shady practices I guess.
Tyler vs Shark Puppet: A Tragic Irony of Mind over Matter
21:20 Based Space dandy OP moment
"It was all about short term gains to protect interested in the here and now."
I feel like that describes most American corporations/industries, lmao.
The more I hear about america or even the world, the more I want to go to mars.
Daddy Musk, we're waiting
Mars is copyrighted
@@moneysource2006 to be honest, I wouldn't take that as a joke if we weren't joking already
Go outside nigga
"What did you dream? It's alright we told you what to dream."
engineer gaming
rip daftpunk.
(Sentry sapping noise)
As a Metallica fan thanks for this
Napsters vengeance is upon all of the music industry, the RIAA, Metallica and any all who attack the consumer
Imagine being called “corporate rock” that’s gotta hurt
"The Recording Industry is evil" Yeah and bears still shit in the woods
I.. I didn't think it would even be possible to collect taxes, but just straight up give it to an organisation..
Pardon me while I go pirate all Metallica and RIAA claimed music (again).
_legend_
Great job! This is one of the most hilarious videos I've seen. Especially the jokes regarding Metallica, which I won't reveal here for fear of spoiling the fun for others.
Metallica were in the right with Napster. If an author had their book leaked on the internet and was being distributed for free then they would be upset about it. Now we're in a situation where music makes no money, and music has no value to most people. Most musicians can make no money from their music now as streaming services like Spotify pay their artists nothing unless you are absolutely massive.
except authors make money from selling their books and most musicians make money from concerts and merchandise
@@yaboy821 that's only the situation now because they make no money from album sales. Touring and merch is their only revenue source, rather than one part of their income.
And with the Grammys aka Recording Academy losing viewership for not rewarding real artistry but it being confirmed that it’s always been about politics and favoritism, is just adding more fire to the music industry roaring flames.
you should make a video about Disney, including the issue with Alan Dean Foster not receiving royalties from the giant.
And whistleblower Sandra Kuba as well. She got fired by that damn giant.
That sound dub was perfectly placed over their video of them playing and cracked me tf up
Ah I remember when our good content creator was sane and Cody was hanging around. I'm sure his sanity will come around again. One day
Never. This is the brave new world, and the future is now. I'm just enjoying the slow spiral down.
no, leave him. prophets usally talk with riddles.
Some say that's the.. the
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G A Y T H A T N E V E R C U M S
"..a new mentality emerged, that music is something of a 'public good' like roads...the library...or *trees"*
Also in germany, if you are a Indi music maker, and want to give your music away for free, you can't.. Google "GEMA vermutung" They will actually sue you for copying you own selfmade music because they just assume your music is protected by them....
3:29 OMG Lady Justice has a wardrobe malfunction
Spotify is mostly owned by the same 3 record conglomerates that own everything else, and is where the money goes. If you make legal streaming easier than piracy people will give it a go, that's the actual reckoning of the Napster saga.
Funny, because the Touhou remixes I listen to aren't on Spotify.
It cracks me up seeing people from outside the music industry talk about these things. I definitely don’t agree with everything that the giants of the music industry does/has done over the years, but they were absolutely right to be terrified of the digital revolution. The music industry today still makes less money than it did in the 1970s. Countless jobs in the industry were lost in the mid 2000s, and that’s before the recession hit. A lot of good came from digital music, but it was definitely a mixed bag and far from all positive. Even if you want to look at the smaller bands point of view on this. Yes, there are countless more opportunities for your music to be heard, but because there’s nowhere near as much money going around as there was in the early 2000s, labels do next to nothing to develop up and coming artists today. You basically have to already have a fully packaged act in order for a notable label to be interested in working with you. That takes quite a lot of money, so basically you’ve got to have rich parents, or be willing to go broke to be able to do these things. And I’m not saying you can’t point to artists and say _____ did it without doing that. Yes, outliers exist, but that’s what makes them outliers. Even for those who do “make it” in music, you’re basically forced to tour 300 days out of the year to stay financially afloat. Streaming payouts are not sustainable. And yes; musicians love playing live typically, but that’s not exactly the most peaceful lifestyle. And since Covid, touring coats have skyrocketed. One band recently stated their bus costs have increased by over $2 million since their pre Covid tours. This was a bigger band, so I’m not saying that this applies to most bands, but no one really thinks about just the busses for a tour costing 1-5 million for a band to tour. That’s not even counting paying the staff, the gear, etc.
To be clear, I’m not talking about the 1% or the music world selling out arenas. They still make plenty of money. I’m referring to the artists playing 1-5000 seat venues, the mid level and lower.
My point here is, yes I think you nailed one aspect of this. I liked the video; however there’s a whole other level of impact thwt is much less positive that could only be covered if the video was 3x longer.
I know it’s been talked about plenty, but we also need to change the whole “it’s easier to moderate with an algorithm” thing. It’s not like it’s just gonna go away.
Do you think its bad to have an algorithm?
Algorithms are not good
@@kittykittybangbang9367 They are very good
The use of the Utah state capitol for lobbying was on point. 16:57