Is PPOP Copying KPOP? | Cultural Imperialism in the Philippines
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- Опубликовано: 8 авг 2024
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Just like what Pablo said, No one owns a certain genre, we're all inspired by every country's music.
Shut up!
@@fsas4341 Okay pi.
Exactly !!!
@@imszmesmerized6506 HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA BOSET NA pi yan 🤣🤣🤣🤣
shut up daw ih, masunurin akoಥ‿ಥ
“Every country has their own culture of pop,”
“What differs us from other countries is the soul we put in it. Everything that we’ve experienced in life, everything that influences us as an artist, our culture, our language, that’s what we [as SB19] put into our music, and we want to show that to the world.”
-Pablo
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the soul? ppop doesn't have much soul, lol
@@nenabunena Have you ever tried listening to WHAT? or MAPA by SB19? Check those songs first po.
@nenabunena oh really?! But first, how do you define soul?
This is not even debatable. They speak in their language which is Tagalog, they are all Filipinos (some are just mix), they all live in the Philippines, and their music videos are purely Filipino conceptualize. So therefore, they're P-Pop and not Kpop! Just because they got inspired by the kpop genre or got manage by koreans doesn't mean they're Korean wannabe. It's called INSPIRATION and that's always happening in the Music industry. When an artist got inspired, they do music! That's it. Go to sleep and Save your time.
TULDOK.
Well said!
THIS!!!! Every culture was inspired by another culture! This is completely normal!
correct ka jan bro! very true !
Agree
From the time Philippines was colonized by many countries, Filipinos learn to adopt everything.From clothing to music and culture.
Thanks Jessica, for this topic.I hope people will understand this and stop hating SB19.
I don't care what genre people do label SB19, I only know they are AMAZING artists and they nail everything they do! Iwawagayway ang watawat!! 🇵🇭 Love from Italy 🇮🇹 and lets hope for an SB19 world tour ❤️
We care about KPOP
@@fsas4341 and so?😏
@@Unknown-ch7fg hahaha right?
@@fsas4341
Then care about them, dear
Why do drag other people who was inspired by the "k-pop" genre... you do not fully understand or digest this video, honey...
"K-pop" was also inspired from different genre like j-pop and American pop
WE just admire the k-pop technology and digest it... but in the end they (p-pop groups) still delivered OPM music.
Just enjoy the different style of music,believe me it's magical✨
✨Music is universal✨
If you don't like it then stfu 😊😉
@@fsas4341 This is a toxic content creator
Double standards din mga netizens. Ayaw sa SB19 kasi "KPOP Copycat" (kahit na nagmumura na sa Tagalog ang mga awitin at mga Pilipino ang composer, Choreographer, music engineer) kasi under sila sa ShowBT-which is a Korean Company.
Kaya saludo ako sa SB19. Sila sumalo ng lahat ng hate. Pati rin MNL48.
Totoo
TRUE. HUHU
Nothing Gonna change, Ppop copying kpop and jpop
@@fsas4341 kulang ka sa aruga! Haha.. di namin kasalanan walang nagmamahal sayo.. Haha
@@fsas4341 isa kang malaking tukmol!
POP Music is a genre, no one owns it.
K-pop is a genre itself that caters music style, group, audition, building icon, management, and even marketing.
What's next, are you going to build an orchestra of filipinos, and call it P-band?😂😂
"Were just Korean people trying to do music, so if Korean people make music, its K-pop? i don't even get it... Like its Korean Pop. The only thing is language. Why don't they do that for every country" - Teddy Park
Underrated comment!!!
No the problem is you guys are creating the kpop style musics, dance choreographies and mvs and call it it’s tpop, vpop, ppop 😂 I can’t even the find the difference in their music videos. Where is your style of music?? Some people say that kpop is from jpop idol culture and Japanese music is doing their own style of music now but tpop, vpop, ppop copying everything kpop industry created 😭 dance choreography videos, lightsticks, the combination of rapping and songs even how they wear at stage…and you call it it’s your pop??
@@Dianna_Tou "No one owns a certain genre, we're all inspired by every country's music" - Pablo
@@marjoriesamson838 hm… trying so hard to excuse yourself 😂. Everyone knows that this is kpop style. It’s not about the certain genre. And did you say inspired?? Then tell me the difference between kpop and your pop. Please!! If you wanted say your pop is inspired then tell me the things you created your own to make it different from kpop.
@@marjoriesamson838 who’s pablo btw??
I’m actually surprised how she didn’t mention the Sexbomb Girls who was a Filipino girl group in the early 2000s so basically sing and dancing groups aren’t really a new concept here in the PH
Btw im not saying this to say that ppop did not copy kpop, I just raised this point bc the appeal of SB19 to the Philippines does give that kpop vibe but even someone who doesn’t like kpop, are fans of them. I just think its very reminiscent of older Filipino groups as well thats why Filipinos have the love for such music or genre.
Universal Motion and Street Boys were popular back in the 90's
*EsPaGgEtTi PaBaBa PaBaBa nG pAbAbA eSpAgEtTi PaTaAs PaTaAs Ng PaTaAs*
In short: Ppop copying kpop end of discussion
@@fsas4341 lol bitter af. Anyways stay mad, stan Sexbomb Girls and stream the spaghetti song for clearer skin😌💅
@@fsas4341 and Kpop is copying American Pop and Jpop
But isn't Kpop technically just an amalgamation of western music and Japanese idol culture? If South Korean music can take inspirations from other countries, then I don't see the problem with other countries taking musical inspiration from theirs
the problem is not everyone knows about kpop being inspired by jpop and western pop. sigh...
I agree..
@@gratzel7 correct!!!! and the lack of awareness about political and socio-cultural issues is also another reason why most people in the Philippines spew hate and judgment here and there.
if only pinoys will have the initiative to research first before forming an opinion. 😭
if they have the energy and internet connection to bash and harass people online, why can't they use those privileges and resources to use google? i will never understand.
@@gratzel7 I agree with everything you said 😁 there are so many factors indeed. if only more influencers and celebrities will tackle about important things like that, many people would be enlightened
WayV is managed by SME but all members are Chinese or are of Chinese descent. They are considered C-pop but why can't SB19 be considered P-pop?
True!
I think it's because the whole *letter*-Pop concept is centered around East Asians. Chinese, Japanese, and Korean people all share similar aesthetics regarding their physical traits, which is part of the reason why C-Pop and J-Pop are normalized and put on the same level as K-Pop (physical aesthetics/visuals being one of the main attractions in K, C, and J pop) The reason why P-Pop is so controversial in the first place is because Filipinos are Southeast Asians and don't share a lot of the physical traits as East Asians. Which, in turn leads to the idea that Filipinos are copying Koreans and other East Asians in terms of physical looks, mannerisms, fashion, etc. Filipinos are outsiders, in a sense. I'm not saying physical characteristics is the only reason, but rather one of the biggest reasons.
P-pop started with Manila Sound tbh, it's just the idol system that our entertainment industry is trying to implement. If we say p-pop groups just in general we have tons of that way before this Filipino idol groups debuted(which started with MNL48). Filipino's are not familiar with the concept of idols, we did not grow up seeing this kinds of group, so when we are introduced to this concept many people automatically assumed that it's a copy of k-pop when in fact k-pop is just Korea capitalizing with the JPOP sound and eventually leading to the modern kpop we hear today, on other hand Jpop is adapted from american pop, and pop in general it's just a genre, no one really owns it. So why are we preventing our entertainment industry to find its modern sound thru this groups?
Yes its true.. generally p-pop are more inspired by british and american music. Thats why 70s-00s follow music trends from the US. 10s-20s music slowly get inspired as well slowly by korean music due to large fanbases here in the ph for korean idol groups.
Also the idol culture began from japan which began in the 90s, SM Ent. copied them and made their own version of the idol group. The j-pop and k-pop style of idols are vastly different.
Who told you that we arent familiar pf the concept of idols? We have idols long before south koreans have had a concept of idols. Go study the history of philippine showbiz. Just because it isnt world famous doesnt mean that we only conceptualize idols when kpop came in.
@@rots.866 idols groups like what? Also you're knowledge doesn't represent the general public. In reality (since you said WE), Filipinos in general aren't aware of how idol system work or how it started.
If someone has an underlying hate when you pointed out that P-pop is "copying" K-pop (in which, itself, is not really wrong, all genres are "copies" and derivatives of other genres), it just means that you are jealous of other people with different nationalities doing that kind of style and being overly proud and protective with it. It is the same thing as the hip-hop. People really like to gatekeep a lot, let people breathe and do their own thing. These boys worked a lot and since they are the first Filipinos or the ones which got really popular who derive from this genre, they literally caught most the ignorance and stupidity of Filipino people about Filipino groups like this. BGYO and BINI safely entered the chat when this concept is now being accepted by Filipinos. Both Filipinos and Koreans, especially tons of Filipinos (yep, our own people), criticized this group and P-pop. That is why SB19 has a special place in my heart.
Same🥰. Hanggang ngayon marami pa ring May ayaw sa SB19 pero todo suporta sa iba💔
Just accept the facts that filipino has no originality and they are copying kpop culture
Remember we do have our own culture and artistic style. It is not a good excuse that Ph has no identity boundaries. We do have. I'll just reference our own indigenous music and art as some of the foundation for our modern culture and identity "supposedly."
I see what you did there. Appeal to empathy and ignorance. It saddens me. I don't care whether they are your tiny sweetie bias. I'll try to be objective (hopefully). After all, SB19 music is a product of globalization, and we still need to be careful because our indigenous culture and music are in danger to become extinct, yet people like you are some of the reason why they are becoming extinct. (Why? Neglect of our culture. You guys are still supporting and succumbing to foreign music and their influences.) Nevertheless, what I am worrying about is the loss of Filipino culture and identity in our music as these groups such as SB19 did; after all, they are only slowly adapting to the global standards of the entertainment market - fancy makeup, white skin, and foreign clothes. Thus, the korean entertainment industry and the ph industry as well are after only on one objective: profit. They (SB19 and other ph groups) don't care whether they will sacrifice some Filipino cultural identity to meet the market. Because, capitalism and globalization?
@@fsas4341 oh there you go again, this toxic content creator "kunu".🤪
@@fsas4341
Honey, you need some tiki-tiki 😊💙
Mpop, Jpop, Ipop, Vpop and Tpop I think Philippines and Indonesian are the most active.. like MNL48, BGYO, SB19 is also inspired by southeast asian group
MNL48 is not kpop. Jpop Po Ang MNL48
I LOVE ALL POP GROUPS HERE IN ASIA AND I LIKE ALSO THE WAY HOW THEY LOOK HOW THEY SING HOW THEY DANCE MABUHAY MGA SOUTHEAST ASIAN POP GROUPS.
@Jen Fee TAMA KA
@Jen Fee ANG AYOKO LANG SABIHAN TAYO NI K POP PRODUCER NA WALA TAYONG ORIGINALITY
Ppop rise
that'll always be people's response, "copied kpop" wherein fact kpop is even inspired by jpop and western pop, you lack research boy/girl groups were already present here in the philippines in 90's and the genre in 1960's if im not mistaken. As Pablo said in an interview, MUSIC IS A UNIVERSAL LANGUAGE WE ALL ARE INFLUENCED BY DIFFERENT MUSIC AND GENRE. NOBODY SOLELY OWNS A GENRE.
Luck of research , mema lang talaga hehe
Just like what Pablo (sb19 leader) said when someone told them that they sounds like KPOP and looks like KPOP, so how can they say that they are promoting PPOP? He said that no one actually (solely) owns a certain genre (like kpop) infact, Kpop was also influenced by western and jpop but maybe the reason why they are always perceived that they sounds like kpop is because atm kpop is famous in the world (mainstream), but, other countries are also using the same genre as them. Pablo said that they are promoting PPOP but influenced with different genre because MUSIC IS A UNIVERSAL LANGUAGE and no one actually owns a certain genre coz we are all influenced by different country and different music style/s. Anyways, STAN SB19! hehe.
Kpop was also influence by Jpop Idol culture. Everything is influenced by other. 🥰💕
@@kyllecalimutan7095 truu, it's the power of globalization 👌
Mataas tingin nila sa K-pop nila. Napaghahalataan
ang yayabang ng KPop anime based lang naman ang pormahan. kaya minsan mas gusto ko western culture eh. yung mga cowboy styles and dun makikita mga tunay na lalaki di puro make up.
@@mauystraycat Tahimik mga Kpoop fans kase hindi tungkol sa mha idol nila kahit kung ano ano sabihin satin
Nope, actually K-POP is influenced by African-American black culture like hip-hop, rap, R&B, breakdancing, etc. The founder of SM entertainment who is one of the pioneers of K-POP even said this himself. Same with Seo Taiji and the Boys, one of the first artists of K-POP. So this is saying that, everyone is inspired or copying the best of other culture, etc. J-Pop is different IMO, they have their own bubble world in Japan.
In todays world, there is no one who owned a specific genre or style. Music industry evolves every time. And try to listen especially Sb19’s song, their songs specifically tries to tell something, it has a deep messages of all their song. It was not only a song, but a story. Copying is not the right term to say. tbh. And lets also not forget that they were trained by Koreans & their manager are Korean also, so we will always gonna see a touch of Korean on their group. Just my opinion. :) ♡
Absolutely correct p0 🥰🥰
On point!
Eww Ppop copying kpop duhh
@kpop producer listen ka dong sa manila sound ng 70s and you will know ,many pinoy groups are made that time, pinagdaanan ng ng pinas yang kpop kpop na yan haha ,disco pa yan dati...
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When you say OPM, are simply songs that were made or originally released by Filipinos, it doesn't matter what language or genre it is. PPOP is more like a genre.
Pop is a genre and no one owns it.
Kpop is pop music made in Korea or by Koreans.
Ppop is pop music made in the Philippines or by Filipinos.
I don't think ppop is copying kpop because lyricism skills between the two countries are very DIFFERENT from each other. The two countries and their people think differently with regards to their culture, society, and idealism. Filipino artists train differently from how koreans do. And the filipino people's societal maturity is very different from korean society. Ppop is not heavily promoted and budgeted but they are able to come up with quite decent production. I hope ppop would not do those hand gestures in their coreo especially if it doesn't make sense.
Maybe influenced but not a copy. There are a lot out there that were also sounding like Kpop like the one from China, Thailand, Vietnam, Kazakhstan and Indonesia.
Yes right! Nahihighblood ako sa kanya eh, not to offend anyone but feeling nia lahat ng sinasabi nia tama? Eh there's a big difference bet. "copying" and "adapting???" Yeh maybe there's an influence bec. they are under Korean Management but yung sabihin nila na ang #Sb19 daw ay Kpop? and Copying Kpop? Eh lahat naman tayo eh influence ng lahat ng bagay sa mundo. Eh tagalog nga ang kanta eh! Taz Filipino pa sila and they live here in Ph! naku! Don't brainwashed the people! Ikaw ba naman ang sumigay sa kanta ng "What?" na "Pilipinas!"
Tunog western din naman ang kpop ah. The thing here is pop is pop music made by koreans or by filipinos. No one owns a specific genre. Kaya stop na tayo sa copy copy na yan.
Just like Josh Cullen SB19
They are not copying KPOP
PERIOD.
BLACKPINK END BINI'S CAREER
I don't think P-Pop is copying K-Pop as a whole. It's more of adapting the successful paradigm that Korea's Entertainment Industry is implementing. Example could be in the business world or academic world. Countries/businesses/individuals will try to adapt strategies that are proven effective and successful. So I personally think that the term "copying" is inappropriate. Though I give high credits for Korean entertainment for establishing a well-built system.
Hypocrite beeehhh
Kaya nga nagalit ang NORTH KOREAN PRESIDENT dahil naging toxic na ang KPOP idols😂😂😂😂
@@soniavinluan8979 geez she learned a new word and even use it when it's out of context lmao where can you apply the word hypocrite in his comment 🤷♂️
@@soniavinluan8979 You? Yes!! Comprehend behhh
i Agree👍🏻🇵🇭
There's a big difference between Copying and Adapting. Everything is influence and inspired by many! FYI, wala pong nagmamay-ari ng certain Genre! Even K-pop was a combination of American pop and Jpop! They just even add Rap, Hip Hop and EDM para lalong gumanda which is galing din naman sa western country! And some of the song writers ng Kpop are also Filipinos even the back-up dancers?! So can you also say it a pure Korean Pop? We are in the rise of the new era of P-pop idol groups! Let’s admit it! Itaas na po ng Ppop idol groups ngayon ang kalidad ng group performances at visual branding ng bawat isa. And we know one of the biggest influence and reason of this is adapting a training system while being handled not only by Korean Management but also by a Japanese Management. Yung training lang yung inadopt nila but the music itself from the lyrics to choreography was originally made by them(#Sb19). That's why it's called "Pinoy Pop" which is also accepted as part of OPM! Which means Original Pilipino Music. (Gawang pinoy at Pinoy yung kumanta!) Para lang naman yang machine or system eh! if you want to provide something better you have to use the same method or machinery. What i mean is just accept the similarities but don't forget to respect and notice the differences! We already know that all Ppop idols today undergone an intensive training before sila idebut same as not only by Kpop but also with western country. For example "Now United" their management also trained them iba nga lang yung execution and method of training. It just so happened na mas malaki lang talaga ang budget ng Kpop when it comes to MV and they have a huge fans and supporters! Yes, Kpop are popular now a days kaya yung ibang countries na gumagamit din ng same genre, system and method ay hindi nabibigyan ng pansin like for example "Japan". They are just both showing their talents to the world. Bakit kailangan ipilit na #SB19 is copying Kpop? Di na lang maging masaya sa success ng bawat isa? What most of the people do now a days are good in stating their own "opinions" better than "truth" and "facts"! Basta may masabi lang!!! Pag bumili ba ako ng coffee maker sa Canada but i used kapeng barako as my coffee I'm copying the coffee from Canada? Hindi naman diba? Yah, maybe there's always an influence and inspiration behind it coz all of us naman are influenced by the worldly things around us but again there's a big difference between "copying" and "adapting" the system and method just to create your own!!!
True. They speak as if K-POP owned POP genre lmao
Kaps, panoorin nyo to, dito mas napaliwanag na di kinopya ng PPOP ang KPOP, spread the vid na rin para mas maraming maeducate, misleading kasi tong vi na to eh kairita ruclips.net/video/Mz1mLmi8OOI/видео.html
@@cleobentlee242 , Kaya nga eh, nairita rin ako. Not to offend anyone pero para kasing ang dating eh alam na alam nia ang lahat. The way she talks parang walang ibang tama kundi yung opinion nia! Well, thanks for sharing the link Kaps! Basta one thing is for sure #Sb19 is not a copy cat!!!! #Sb19
@@justsaying9737 because the bottom line is it's about time to raise the flag through Ppop . It's our time to shine globally. Segi lang bash lang sila, magshine din ang Ppop.
True Exactly
Pop is pop. Much like how Ballad is ballad, RnB is RnB, Hiphop is Hiphop. What’s the difference? The language by which it is sung. People that say that PPOP is JUST copying KPOP basically said that Ballads from the Philippines copies ballad from other countries. Filipino hiphop scene is copying hiphop from other countries etc. Music is music. It’s international. Before KPOP went viral around the world, pop in the philippines were already known. Heck before Kpop was known around the world, Sexbomb dominated. And there are a whole lot other but Imma let yall do your research.
true...hahahah watch casual chuck research, you will find out who really is the real copy cat, kpop copying jpop and western, 🙄🙄🙄🙄
In my opinion about the “Filipino Identity”, we are just constantly adapting cultures because that’s what we’re made of. Our identity have been removed “not completely” but most of it that’s because of the colonization of different colonizers that led our land. And because of this we are adapting to different cultures that these colonizers have passed to us. Just like today, mostly the newer generation, we just saw something cool or different in the internet we will try to do the same thing as them because that’s what we are composed of, trying to do something new, adapt to it, and try to live it out. I mean this May be applicable to other countries but this is much more prevailing I think in our country, the Philippines. Again, this is just my opinion.
Hahahaha Filipino identity ba..
Wala talaga kwenta eh..
Most Filipinos are hypocrites
@@soniavinluan8979 yes, katulad mo na hypocrite 🤣
@@soniavinluan8979 you're like the "i'M nOt LikE tHe OtHeR gIrLs" of Filipinos lmao. Why do you hate other Filipinos? People from other countries like Korea already hate us Filipinos for dumb reason, why do you have to join in with them? Keep your self-hatred to yourself, we don't need that attitude here
@@soniavinluan8979 we don't stoop to your level..😉
@@soniavinluan8979 tama most Filipinos, walang kwenta... Kabilang ka dun.
I love the part when you say it really depends of what type of person you are, and actually it's true. If you think that p-pop is copying k-pop well maybe you've problem. First of all we have these different approaches of music and all of that have its own source of inspiration to further enhance it. As this generation is evolving everything comes into hybrids or much better quality and the taste of people in music changes too as well, so it's a matter of enhancement, and I see that as good sign to actually improve something.
Ppop is not copying K-pop. Kpop don't own that genre. Every country can own that genre. Hindi naman kayo ang nauna sa Pop music para sabihin niyong wannabe ang SB19. Masyado lang kayong mapagmataas sa k-pop niyo. Nahiya naman ang American pop and J-pop sa inyo.
Nah. I don't think ppop is trying to be kpop. Ppop don't use too much auto tune. The videos are not heavily filtered. The lyricisms are tastefully done and meaningful. The hair color/aesthetic is not far away from real. They don't starve. There's diversity. They sound different. They just don't have that much budget for promotion.
Lmao networks on the ph would rather produce cringe dramas than making a music show that would allow ppop idols to promote
@@chasehmm1005 Ppop sucks like Millennials appreciating that kind of stupid and garbage music.. Ppop will go down the drain forever and ever..
#CancelPPop
#CancelPpop
#CancelPPop
#CancelPpop
@@chasehmm1005 dapat lang.. Ppop sucks like Millennials appreciating that kind of stupid and garbage music.. Ppop must disappear from the Universe and down the drain forever and ever..
#CancelPPop
#CancelPpop
#CancelPPop
#CancelPpop
#CancelPPop
@@soniavinluan8979 meh
@@soniavinluan8979 ohhh yes kaibigan mo lang ako at isa akong halimaw RAGHHHHHH Pikachu
We wanted to add up that there is actually more ppop groups who you forgot to mention.
We have Sexbomb Girls who rose to popularity for 11 years way way before.
And other more groups.
Not really patterned under Kpop our Ppop Groups today. It already existed way before.
Miki Matsubara - Stay With Me Mariya Takeuchi Plastic Love
Akala ko nga ma memention ang sexbomb
And anyways, what separate Ppop to Kpop is, in my opinion, passion.
Our artists usually exist due to their passion for music (talents are very evident) while Kpop is more of a business-oriented, income-generating, just like how other reactors said.
Like yeah, they were the best selling asian group on those years.
I dont think P-POP is directly copying K-POP entirely or as a whole, as long as we dont use things that signify the cultural identity of Koreans like traditional clothes and objects and such. I think it's just because the new and young industry of P-Pop really just loves the idea of a group of people singing, dancing and rapping at the same time and unison and it just happens so that KPOP kind of started it and globalized it
Kaya nga ung kpop nga ung composer lyrics and choreo galing US or Eu.
Siguro kung hindi tayo binenta ng Spain sa America baka until now ay patuloy parin ang paghuhubog natin sa sarili nating Identity, kumbaga napaka diverse ng ating culture ngayon at halos nagkahalo halo na ang lahat ng ating pinakikinggang kanta at dahil dito ay mahirap talagang kilalanin o i-identify ng mga banyaga kung ano bang pattern ang sinusunod ng ating Bansa sa Musical Composition. Isa din sa dahilan kung bat maraming mga Pilipino at isa na ako dun sa mga naguguluhan parin kung san ba patungo ang ating mga musika sa kasalukuyang panahon dahil sa halos araw-araw nating pakikinig ng iba't ibang types of music from different countries ay halos lahat ng ating mga kasalukuyang mga musika ay nahaluan na ng ibat ibang style gaya nalang ng American Pop, Reggaeton, J-Pop, K-Pop etc.
rightly said 👏
STAN BLACKPINK NOT BINI
@@fsas4341 hoy ikaw kanina kapa sa lahay ng comment, manahimik ka nga.
"We have a sense of universality and we take something and utilize it to make something better out of it."
-SB19 Pablo
My god, ang issue lang naman dito kung bakit sinasabing kinokopya is.. maliban sa they are under a korean agency, they (SB19) underwent AUDITIONS, TRAINING, meron fanbase which is characterized by a highly manufactured kpop system. Ang tanong, hindi na ba talaga pwedeng magpa-audition, mag train ng talents kesyo kpop style yan hindi na original at hindi na Pinoy? Afterall its BUSINESS and in business you have to evolve or else mapag-iiwanan ka talaga. Hindi nga porket nagtraining ka ng matagal magiging succesful kana how much more kung ikahon ka pa.
Music is evolving naman talaga eh. Kumbaga you'll be influence talaga to what surrounds you. At wala naman masama don. Ang importante is yong PUSO talaga dapat di mawawala.
Tungkol naman doon sa pormahan ng SB19, tanong ko lang, ano ba dapat ang damit pinoy? Kailangan ba magbahag para tawaging pilipino yan? At about sa make up, hello hindi lang naman koreans ang nagmamake up. Make up exist including men even before kpop. At ginagamit na iyan ng buong entertainment industry dati pa.
For fanbase naman, syempre magaling SB19 marami talaga mahahatak nila..and they are very down to earth kahit sikat na sila. Hindi sila takot humarap sa camera kahit kitang kita flaws nila which is different sa kpop na dapat always talaga perfect. Kahit doon lang you can already see the BIG difference..
Regardless of all mentioned above, it all boils down lang naman kun hanggang kailan ka tatagal kumbaga. And speaking of SB19, nasa kanila na lahat.. Composer, choreographer, creative director etc.. Very talented sila individually and as a group no wonder they create magic. Actually, sila sila lang talaga gumagawa ng kanta at MV nila sa ngayon ha kasi they are given freedom na to do what they want although of course with the assistance of their staffs and some producer. Very hands-on kumbaga. Makikita mo yong artistry talaga.
And speaking of their songs most especially the latest MAPA & WHAT? makikita mo talaga sa lyrics ang pagkapilipino nila. At kung hindi mo pa narinig mga ito, makinig ka muna dahil hindi mo talaga maintindihan sinasabi ko kung hindi mismo ang iyong tainga ang nakarinig. And frankly speaking, hindi lang sila pang pop, kaya nila kahit anong genre which is an edge for them compared to other groups. Few years from now makikita mo din sinasabi ko. Hindi kasi sila yong tipo ng artist na pabalik balik ang concept.
In conclusion, UNFAIR lang talaga para sa sb19 lahat na natanggap nilang critism. They DESERVED RESPECT at least man lang kahit yon lang!
yeah sb19 is not just PPOP but also an ARTIST na wala sa KPOP nyo.
Louder.
LOUDER!!!! 🤣 LOL WALANG BTS KAPAG WALANG PINOY
@@itsmenathan3218 true Ka nmn gna
Ung bts nila na paulit ulit ang concept at ung kanta laos na🤣 sadyang madami lng mga tanga
I wonder if this is even an issue in other countries like Thailand w/ T-Pop, Vietnam w/ V-Pop, Indonesia w/ I-Pop? ...
That is my question too. A lot of those making an issue are Filipinos themselves. Filipinos are the ones who really helped made groups like black pink and bts world famous so there are so many Filipino kpop. But another thing that it has become an issue or made an issue by people is group such as Sb19 is as good or better than many kpop groups. People cannot believe that they would be nominated in BBmA or trending or in the billboard charts as one or the first Filipino and southeast Asian. Then people listen to them and come to realize they dance as synchronized but sing better but also make music that is different and unique. So I guess it doesn’t become as big an issue until kpop fans think groups like sb19 are making noise that might take away from their kpop idols. It became actual an issue with the BBmA voting with many kpop Filipino fans having to make decisions who to vote.
Probably. This stupid argument probably only happens within the Asian community 😅.....Every Asian culture has similarities. Our food, our language, our clothing and now our music. Same thing happening within European cultures, Latin cultures and African cultures. I think most people are just ignorant about how cultures are created...
As a Filipino, I appreciate this Jessica! So insightful.
They are not copying kpop period
It's funny how some Koreans/ Kpoppers have a lot of negative things to say about SB19 and then claim them as "KPOP" the second SB19 gets International recognition..
yes, all genres/musics are influenced by each other. its just that "kpop" is v popular now that's why na label ang ppop na "copycat" but they are not. actually, yes, ppop started a long time ago.
sb19 is the first filipino boy group that made it so far (like in bbma). sb19 faced all the negative comments and hates regarding this issue, they been through a LOT. but look at them now being successful, they are loved by so many and they bring so much pride to our country. sb19 is a filipino boy group. period.
Copycut!
@@fsas4341 K-pop copied OPM late 70s 80s and 90s . LOL
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@@fsas4341 couldn't even spell it right lmao
@@fsas4341 You again 💩
FYI: Music Is Universal and its evolved also, KPOP is inspired by western Pop, Jpop.
I don't really care what others say about SB19. What matters most is they're making good music, making Filipjnos proud and raising tHe flag of the Philippines!! Go SB19!! 😍
SB19 made it to the global stage because their vocals are world class. It doesn’t matter who copied who or who inspired who. At the end of the day, the best ones are the only artists who will have a worldwide popularity. SB19 will change the boyband music industry. Standard would be a self-made band, able to compose, produce, choreograph their own songs, perfectly sing it live, and sing together meaning harmonize, with a handheld mic. Watch how SB19 would change the pop genre. It’s going to be a really tough game for members who are not that great with their live vocals. But standards have been set. No turning back. Personally, If a group or a band is not as good or better than SB19, I’ll keep my precious time and money to myself.
I wanna start an Asian hard rock nu-metal band here in the Philippines
"Asian hard rock" i hate my mind😔
No thanks.. I rather listen to my favorite music than your music
@@soniavinluan8979 no one gives a shit if you listen to their music or not 🤦♀ let them make what they want to make you walking fossil
@@soniavinluan8979 I am also not a fan of any metal music- if that’s what this leading to. But I respect these creators of having a dream to achieve. This is their goal in life, you don’t have anything to say because it’s not your life to begin with. Stop spreading hate and negativity. If you don’t want their music, just shut up. It’s not helpful to be toxic. Always remember to think first and act your age. If you want to gain respect from others, respect their decisions and goals as well. You’re not the “main protagonist” in this world. The world doesn’t just revolve on you.
I think you are too late dude. Rock/Hard Rock/Metal has its time in the Philippines from the early to mid 90's and had a revival in the mid 2000s. There were a lot of rock bands during this era.
KPOP IS INFLUENCED BY AMERICAN POP AND JPOP. SO BASICALLY KPOP IS JUST INSPIRED TOO.
The whole K-pop idol culture was inspired by the Japanese pop culture before anything else. We get inspirations from different types of genres elsewhere and it doesn’t necessarily have to be an original concept. Music in general is borrowed and recycled, that’s the reason why different types of genres keeps on evolving. There’s no limit when it comes to music 👌🏼💯
Some of the ideas from Kpop came from the United States back in 1998-2001 timeframe back when boy bands was a huge deal at the time.
Parang natatakot na ang korea baka mag number na ppop sa buong mundo at mawala na ng kpop kaya sinasabi copy #sb19 cguro alam na nila na madami pilipino na fans ang kpop at maging fan na nag sb19 hehe
Every Jessica's topics are interesting, not gonna lie. Road to 600k. ❤️
Thank you Jess, love youuuu!! ❤️
BLACKPINK OUTSOLD BINI
@@fsas4341 Bini just debut & they already #1 in ph. Blackpink is the most popular group in Korea & I became a fan when they collab w/Selena Gomez (whose like Taylor Swift level pop).
@@fsas4341 iKon is better than BlankPink
SB19 or Bini is not P-Pop. It is Filipino KPop. It does not have the identity or soul of the Filipino whenever I watch it, no matter how fierce they wave the Philippine flag in their music videos. Unlike Kpop, even though it was inspired by other influences, Kpop managed to make it as their own and reflected their culture and identity. Filipino KPop copied not only the formula of Kpop but all the demeanor, fashion styles and dance accent distinctive and identifiable only to South Koreans. There has been no popular P-pop that is known globally or even locally because while the talent and visuals are there, the formula, marketing and the technical aspects behind it do not. Filipinos do not lack talent nor visuals, they lack the infrastracture to market it globally the way South Koreans has done best. Like Koreans, Filipinos have distinctively identifiable dance accents, demeanor (more animated and extroverted than the introverted expressionless demeanor of south koreans) and fashion styles. SB19 or Bini do not reflect this Filipino soul in their brand. So no, they like to market themselves as P-pop. When in reality theyre just Filipino Kpop.
I think it's not a bad thing to have PPOP being inspired by KPOP. Most of KPOP nowadays are inspired by different foreign genres of music and it is like the same thing.
Yan ang malabo sa kanila eh. May pagkaone sided kase walang nagcacall out eh.
Exactly they trynna gatekeep a genre when they're also mostly inspired by others yeah! Kind of prejudiced
@@marthis27 diba? like KPop is now inspired of foreign genres since the day that it became a worldwide phenomenon. Most of the producers ng mga sumikat na KPop songs are foreign artists and mostly came from the West, and one example is the moment when SM Entertainment chose to work with song demos from western artists like how Kesha's Run Devil Run was bought for SNSD, Ariana Grande's Boyfriend Material for f(x), and the LDN Noise era of SM where most of the songs are in the deep house genre and very Westernized feel like the B-sides from Red Velvet's first album. Kaya hindi masama na maging inspired sa KPop ang PPop kase sa simula't sapul, KPop is composed by inspirations from other sounds in different cultures.
and saka bakit kung kailang PPop na yung kumuha ng inspiration, saka naging enraged ang mga tao about such? Nakakainis isipin na parang di nila ata na-analyze kung ano yung meron sa music ng SB19 and other new PPop artists.
true. andali nilang sabihin na maraming gumagaya sa K-POP kahit 'inspired' lang naman ang mga ito, pero kapag usapang K-POP na, ang term na ginagamit nila ay 'inspired' ito by other foreign pop (JPOP, Western POP).
Selective 'yarn?🥴
She talks like an old person but actually is sooo young.. Very smart and articulate. More power Jessica!🔥
I think the word you're looking for is "wise." Jessica is very wise for her age! :)
Poor ladies! Everything is vica versa! She talks and acts as a child, although she's pretty adult! Just, take a look at her criticisms. She's jealous!
Okay, The most common difference is their LANGUAGE. You'll never hear any korean word on SB19's songs. How can a group who don't speak korean, who doesn't promote on Korea be a KOREAN POP GROUP? KPOP and PPOP are both under POP. Okay?
Yes, they did got the idea of training and dancing from KPOP but they are still PPOP.
Anyone can sing and dance but it is just that we are used on hearing it from KPOP and that KPOP is the trend now. Let's not forget that there are also western artist like Jennifer Lopez and Britney Spears dance while singing
I think one of the reasons why the Kpop business really succeed is the collaborative work that many talented artists, producers, and choreographers (especially Black African-American musicians and producers) contribute to make that "kpop trademark" really stand out to general public. Which is why it is very effective and loved by so many. Now that it is known worldwide the P-pop is also adapting that kind of style and it's a good thing that we can all learn from each other, benefit from that, and share cultures together. Love your videos as always ate Jessica! 👏
Buseness
Also the discipline of its performances...
@@gratzel7 exactly! you had great points, our talented artists should definitely be recognized and they deserve a better stage to perform and showcase their talents kaso yun nga wala naman tayong masyadong music platforms aside myx who can help with that. hindi ko alam sa asap i think they need to improve they're stage more tho
But KPOP end you western music duhh
@@gratzel7 No!
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yes ghorl
So, Pablo was right with his explanation that nobody owns a certain genre. So now we can all moved on. Thank you Jessica for doing this video it can somehow help some people who do not really understand.. 😃good job 👍💙
I don't understand why its a kpop wannabe,the songs are literally tagalog not korean like come on now
The last part was indeed the conclusion.. We really can say that with the people embodying the aspect of the culture,personality as well the language on its own we can identify their identity as who they really are. Because no matter who and what was the inspiration came from , as long they connect to the audience it means a lot.Though we can't really denied that KPOP played a such role on inspiring PPOP groups. As a result PPOP improve a lot and starting conquering the world stage.
And so? Filipino copying twice!
kpop inspired most ppop groups and solo artists but mostly just the younger/new generation.
@@fsas4341 Oh? So a 2 second count is an equivalent of copying a whole group when in reality they have their own
identity and concept? Then how about those kpop group who have a whole dance routine based on FORTNITE dance steps are they a real group? Aren't they just a copy too?
@@fsas4341 lol don't bring twice queens here.Just stream 'Alcohol free' para naman may ambag ka sa fandom bukod sa pagiging toxic.
This makes me listen to 80s 90s and year 2000 p-pop songs again, such a nostalgic music era
Yes, boybands like Westlife, Backstreet Boys, NSYNC, OTown, Boyzone and others are cool. With class.. Ppop sucks like Millennials appreciating that kind of stupid and garbage music.. Ppop will go down the drain forever and ever..
@@soniavinluan8979 I also like American Pop from the late 90's and early 2000 like 98 degrees, Moffats, BSB, NSYNC, Westlife etc. How do you know that Ppop will go down the drain? Maybe you will go down the pipeline..😆🤣
@@soniavinluan8979 pare parehas lang naman na boygroups yang mga yan at napakatalented, so tumahimik ka nalang kasi tahol ka ng tahol wala ka namang talent
@@gratzel7 sorry Ppop will go down the drain forever and ever.. Mark my words idiots.. Beeehhh
I love how Jessica explains every issues and topics that is very relevant not only in PH and SK but all over the world, in a very serious, mature, fair & honest way.
*Kpop were also influenced by American pop and Jpop as well, it's just that kpop became very popular which lead to the people's mind that they are the original one so people started saying that ppop, ipop, tpop, mpop and other pop has no originality and just copied kpop... As I said, kpop were also influenced by other country before just like ppop and others were also inspired by them, inshort people are always inspired by another💖*
In my opinion the first p-pop group is sexbomb they first group that dance and sing they debut in 1999 and end to 2006 they where best selling girl group back on the time
yeah, idk why arent they included here since sexbomb was the best selling girl group across asia
Better check smokey mountain and FOJ change name to Vanna Vanna of 90s era...
Jessica be like.. I'll tell you I'm an A'tin without telling it directly.. hahahaha charot.
Mabuti pa ikaw mareng Jessica, malawak ang kaisipan in terms of these music genres. Thanks for sharing a complicated issue from your own perspective. I'm amazed how you brought this up and explained it well in less than 10 mins. Ingat palagi. ♥
I think SB19 dont deserve to be lined up to kpop or so called koreans because they are proudly Filipinos that full of talents from the start of their trainings. SB19 make music based on their experience and chereo to what lyrics bring. SB19 are all Filipinos period. They are artists. They can only line up to famous talented OPM artist that next generation can admire too.
Filipinos are flexible and resilient. SB19 has that Filipino element/attitude in them. That makes them P-pop. But actually they are not only good in singing pop songs. They are multi talented. So that makes them a genre of their own. They are P- power. Pinoy power! 💙
80’s, 90’s and 2000’s songs are one of the best music genres ever.
Absolutely yes.. Ppop sucks like Millennials appreciating that kind of stupid and garbage music..
80 90 ARE WEST PURE TALENT A-POP BEAUTIFUL. 😊 😊 😊
@@soniavinluan8979 what? Stupid and garbage music? HAHAHA di ka sure jan
I really love how you talk about these important topics. You really use your platform properly. You have been immersed into different cultures and you open mindedly discuss it. i hope that more viewers would watch this and further understand that gate keeping and negatively reacting unto the changes and diversion of culture really do not help on unifying and ending the underlying social issues.
Kung sa SB19 tatanungin sila na mismo na magsasabi o magsasagot na sila ay PPOP group at nakalagay na mismo sa kanilang online account na Filipino Boy Group thats means they are PPOP🇵🇭 or they have different genre pop, rock , ballad etc.. dahil sila ang nakakaalam sa kanilang grupo kaya nasa SB19 ang tamang desisyon kung saan sila belong. PPOP will rise support our own artist we will rise together! Padayon! PPOP🇵🇭
Commonsense naman, kung K-pop sila bat nasa Pilipinas sila eh Dapat nasa Korea para tawaging k-pop sila. Inspired lang po. Salamat 🇵🇭❤🇰🇷
KPOP really influence many artist's. There's nothing wrong about it! ❤️
They spread positive vibes, That's all matter! 💕
yeah just like how jpop and western music influenced kpop
copying ma o hindi, natural na nangyayare yan Music is a business, kailangan mag step up ng mga entertainment agency/ company kunh anoman ang marketable, so hindi nayan maiiwasan. at ang kpop naman lalo na ang mga bigatin is produced by american, so kinukuha din nila yung mga kanta na galing sa american pop
You hit it right on the head .
I really appreciate the insight shared in this analysis. I just wish some people would be a bit more open minded and not get so heated when it comes to these labels. Like it was mentioned, we have reached a point in music where influence stems across multiple genres, so artists really shouldn’t be confined by certain expectations.
Today Ppop is a resurgence and is reinvented. The term has been used since 1990s and early 2000s but it died down because we ( Filipinos) usually refer to our music as OPM rather than segregating it into it's sub genre, in my opinion it stemmed out because we are a multi-linggual race. We have both English and Tagalog songs so it's our way of segregating our music from the English speaking countries. Therefore OPM is popularized than referring to our music as it's sub-genre (Ppop, rock, rap...).
The segregation I mean is when we introduce our music, we don't introduce it as Ppop, Prock,... instead we introduce it as a whole, as OPM. Then we refer to it's genre much like western music, it's pop, rock, rap... But I think the first I heard of the term Ppop was when the Philippines was first aquainted with asian music culture. Like jrock and jpop from anime and such. Copying the term because it's an Asian thing, and we identify ourselves as Asians.
But the term did not last long because majority of people understand the music industry as
"Filipino music no matter the genre = OPM", although we developed the sub-genres and fans refer to it as the subgenre when engaging ultimately it falls in the category of OPM.
As the term Ppop is repopularize because of the domination of Kpop in the music scene, it comes with alot of changes to the genre like people are rediscovering our asian culture and norm in pop, how gg and bb is pop and not a band. Because in my opinion post jpop and kpop introduction, we usually follow the wests music standard more than the asian standard. Example of these is sexbomb, and the sexualization of our gg genre. Unlike our asian neighbors where gg is a genre of innocence and conservatism.
This is all my little theory and it's not perfect so help me compete it, if you have your respective opinions. 😊
In 1990's .. Ely Buendia of Eraserheads was an idol material right? All my insecurities came from him.. I've always thought he was the coolest and the best looking guy on Earth when I was a kid (maybe I still do lol)... I'll give the 1990's to Eraserheads since they were the best selling pop band in the 90's and also won the prestigious MTV's East Asia Awards and the only Filipino group that did so. They were popular in Indonesia and Singapore (just not sure about other South East Asian neighbors)
If you haven't check.. try checking out Nescafe's Open Up party concert featuring APO and Eraserheads medleys performed by themselves.
Now when I think about it.. they've probably put Eraserheads in Rock scene instead of Pop.
90's Pop in the Philippines consist of Maneuvers, Universal Motion and Street Boys and some solo act like Gary Valenciano.
@@aldrinaldrin4618 Ppop will never ever achieve in this world unlike the success of Pinoy artists that made their mark in OPM.. Timeless ang mga kanta ng OPM noon kesa ngayon eh puro gaya gaya sa Kpop..
#CancelPPop
#CancelPpop
#CancelPPop
#CancelPpop
#CancelPPop
@@soniavinluan8979 I don't see anything wrong with Filipino making their own variant of an existing concept.
Thank you for bringing this up. To make the story short, PPOP is PPOP (periodt). 😊
as an a'tin (and a filo), i feel like i have to say something here HAHHAHA the word "copy" shouldn't even be here because--like what everyone is already saying--we are all influenced by different stuff. (im gonna say something in tagalog so for non-filos out there pls just translate this as im not rlly great at expressing myself in English) sa dinami-raming tao na nabuhay at nabubuhay rito sa mundo, is there really a thing such as "original"? i mean, its so hard for someone to come up with something that no one has ever done before. something "new". or something "fresh." you get me? HAHAHA and plus, we are all different, no matter how similar some might seem. there will always be points that people will see and use to differentiate one person/thing from another. thats it. thanks for listening to my ted talk. *mic drop*
As an ACIN(ACEs and A'TIN) i agree wahahaha wala akong naiambag pero yeah i agree please louder
sb19 was formed under a korean agency, the ceo is korean, their choreographer/trainer is korean, and they were trained under the korean idol training system, but they are releasing their own composed songs in filipino and english, just their first hit song 'go up' is distinctly kpop sounding because the producer of the song is korean, but the lyrics was purely created by one of the members himself
They don't have a Korean choreographer FYI
Their teacher for guide and watcher nila every training but Hindi siya nagchochoreo ng dance ng sb19
It was a nice topic, right now in the Philippines they are having so many PPOP group 😊
I guess not yet. This generation of P-Pop is still at its beginning. Like how K-pop was able to pursue the path it has laid now since the first gen groups debuted. Because of SB19' success, I guess more company would venture to produce groups like this which will eventually be inspired by the K-pop model
But no originality Nanananan
@@fsas4341 originality? do you think kpop is not also inspired by American pop and japan pop... KPOP started in 20s while the PPOP started in 90s its just that kpop got so famous right now but it doesn't mean they are the original. Nonesense
@@adornadocabalbagjr.4396 I kinda hope the Ppop insdustry doesn't get that big in the Philippines tho. Like I love Kpop, but I'll be honest it's a pretty toxic industry that mostly just exploits young people with dreams of becoming famous singers. Not to mention the fact that it perpetuates toxic beauty standards and feeds off of over-possessive fans' cravings to control/monitor the lives of their idols. I mean, you could argue that the Ppop industry is a lot more open-minded than the Kpop industry is right now, but how long will that last? Didn't the Kpop industry start off that way too? And now look at them, they literally treat artists there like robots, there's barely any variety/diversity in their artists, they value looks and youth over musical quality, and talented solo artists like Ailee are constantly overshadowed by the hundreds of groups debuting every year. The Ppop industry could literally ruin the Philippines' music industry by taking away everything that makes it unique. That's just my take on it though, feel free to disagree with me if you want
@@fsas4341 some Kpop song sounds like some of the American songs. How about that?
music is like research, it's never-ending and cyclical... it'll continue to evolve and innovate, each genre that has existed and been made was inspired by another genre... it continues to transform and of course influence another music culture creating a whole new field or style... so yeah, maybe the way how these groups are trained performance-wise are the korean way but it's not enough to claim that the music they make are purely korean-based ♡ I LOVE YOUR CONTENTS ATE JESSICA ♡ WISHING YOUR CHANNEL ALL THE BEST AND JUST CONTINUE GROWING SO YOU CAN INFLUENCE MORE PEOPLE ♡
Yes, but let us not forget our Filipino roots just for the sake of foreign entertainment.
Yeah, we also need to try to incorporate other cultures in to our own. But we need to be careful to preserve our own culture and identity - indigenous music and art, for example.
People need to be keen since we are in the age of *globalization and capitalism*. The artistic and humanistic side of music are sometimes endangered to give way or opportunity for profit.
Let us be hopeful that SB19 and other groups showcase some REAL touch of Filipino attire, dance, and appearance (as well as deep cultures in their music). And please support other Filipino artists who practices authentic Filipino art as well. (Since they will strengthen the Filipino identity)
@@anthonyenriles8573 yes pero clear kolang po ha? Most of our roots are from the black music din po hehehe wag po tayo masyadong pa box na porket nakasanayan na eh lagi nalang tayo ganun. Kaya walang unlad ang musika natin nakita ko ung comment mopo kanina na nakikinig ka sa mga rockbands eh hindi naman po satin nagumpisa ung mga yun? Edi wala din tayong roots?
@@anthonyenriles8573 ive only got one thing to say
*ADAPT or DIE* just choose between the two...
p.s. adapting to change doesnt cover up the core of the culture, it actually helps it grow and develop, to reach and influence more people...
@@cadiangjudiel3901 Yep, of course, I am agreeing the fact that music of eheads, and others are a product of westernized music. Just a reminder: I am not attacking anyone's interest in music. I am only attacking SB19's representation of the Philippines in international media. It is just how I am disappointed SB19 marketed internationally - far-fetched from the typical appearance and music style of Filipino authenticity because they will be REPRESENTING our CULTURE and such. Meanwhile, they are wearing unnecessary make-ups and products and such, not showcasing Filipino modern clothes --- deviant from the reality here in the Philippines. You know, cultural appropriation
What do you guys really want for them to be ba? Authentic pinoy pop or pinoy pop na may halong kpop. Of course, kayo na bahala kung ano naman gusto nyo
@@kyllecalimutan7095 ito yung gusto ko linawin, hindi ako a'tin pero support talaga ako sa local bgs and ggs natin... at alam kong sariling sikap (ofc with the guidance of their management/agency) binubuo ng sb19 yung concept ng cb nila... from the song, choreo hanngang sa mv... ppop sila, may influence lang ng kpop siguro nung nagtrain sila, vocal stability, synchronized execution ng choreo pero music? nah, sa mga narinig kong tracks nila, branding talaga ng sb19 ang maririnig mo...
Sorry but SB19 is no longer a Ppop group 🤧 they are now 🎆Filipino Supergroup🎆 not just pop but ballads, hiphop, EDM and all the good stuff they trying to hide from us 🤓
Putting music in specific genres is like putting them in boxes with labels. I don't think there is one true form of music genre as music really is influenced by a mix of different cultures and even identities of the artists interpreting it. One song can be pop/rnb/soul or another song can be dance/techno/pop and that's fine. What's important is that, as a fan, you can relate to it and are inspired by it. 😊
Alots of love from India 🇮🇳♥
What about Kpop's beauty standards? Most koreans usually dont have double eyelids but they undergo surgery to have that kind of trait. And as Jessica mentioned from her older video, she almost got rejected from an idol school for having filipino-english accent which means her country have that standard to have a perfect western english accent. And there are many kpop groups who have a non-korean member. Hmmm? Perfect Kpop? 🤔
For my personal opinion ppop is not copying Kpop they just influenced by Kpop aside for that sb19 should not consider as a Kpop just because they followed the korean strategies cuz as far as I know the reason why their debut title and mv are Korean actor cuz their CEO is koreano so that's why the mv actress and actor are Koreans cuz that time they still new at business industry maybe their Korean ceo knows a lot of korean big friend or connection friend about music and dancing.
"what we are promoting is PPOP, OPM. and i think music is a universal language. no one owns a certain genre. and music is influenced by different cultures/genres" -Pablo, SB19's Leader.
and that's on period.
I don't see anything wrong with Filipino artists being influenced by K-pop. But at the same time K-pop fans should acknowledge how important African-American music is in making what Korean pop is today. Black American music (Hip hop, r&b, soul, rap, blues, pop, country, rock, jazz, etc) influenced every culture around the world.
BINI and BGYO fan here ♾️♠️
Like what Pablo the leader of SB19 said,"Nobody owns a certain genre "because all of us inspired by different countries and different cultures.
Whatever they'll say, my love for SB19 will never change😌 idc for the other groups (just for me). SB19 is SB19, just inspired but never be copied other groups. In fact, it's already obvious when it comes on their quality music👌🏻💖. periodt.
out of topic but, i love how you always put Chopin Nocturne op. 9 no. 2 in your bgm 💙
Atlast someone notices
Thankyou for this!! BINI and BGYO fan here!
Hi mel...nadito karin pala:)
@@purpleheart9364 hiii
As the OPM music evolves every decade, it also changes the fans.... i was born in the 80's but i grew up listening to the 70's songs. when I was a teenager 90's OPM has wider genres of music. I guess in today's generation, SB19 is really successful due to the fact of the influence of KPOP in terms of having loyal fanbase.
Dunno if my comment has something to do with the video but I like ppop more on kpop cause they're helping each other to raise on top
STAN BGYO, BINI AND SB19
Stream BORN TO WIN MV by BINI! 💕
Pop is a the genre. Not kpop nor Ppop.
We cannot say that sb19 is copying kpop because dont OWN it.
Stop saying that Ppop is copying Kpop...
They have their own language and culture. They are just the same ability which is they can do both sing and dance.
true but... watch the whole video pls
At first, Kpop was said to copy American Pop. Now people are saying that any other Asian Pop is copying Kpop.
Ang SB19 ay may sariling landas na tinatahak na malayo sa nakasanayang pop genre. Kitang kita ito sa kanta nilang What? Ang tanong kase dito eh kung aakusahan mo yung artist na nanggagaya lang sa ibang kultura eh napakababaw na tanong nun lalo na sa kaso ng SB19 kase sila mismo gumagawa ng music nila sila mismo nagdedesisyon ng mga nota at lyrics na ilalagay nila di pa ba sapat yun na ebidensya na PPOP nirerepresenta nila kase mga sariling karanasan at panlasa ang nilalagay nila na nakabase din sa pinagdadaanan ng normal na Filipino.
True, parang ang labas kasi na-didisregard yung hardwork and creativity ng SB19. Sila-sila lang gumagawa ng lyrics nila, choreography, producing their own music and even directing, of course with the help of others pero hands on talaga sila sa lahat ng nilalabas nila and they're always incorporating "pinoy" style in them. Hindi nga lang po sila nalilimit as "PPOP" lang kasi SB19 can do other genres din like ballad in which I can say na pinaka-preferred genre ng most of filos. Yes, SB19 can dance, rap, and sing at the same time like what other known groups did but SB19 didn't limit themselves as "PPOP Idols". They're much likely to be known as Filipino Artists na.
K-pop is also inspired by the J-pop..
PH have really popular boy groups that debuted around 1985-1990s, we have Universal Motion Dancers, Manoeuvres, & Streetboys so the concept of PH boy groups is just always there. It's just that the new generation probably don't know them tho.
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Philippine music is older than korean music.
Tagalog is part of the Austronesian family.
Korean is part of the Altaic family (but that is heavily questioned).
Other people are just close minded or don't know the history of kpop and ppop. Vpop, Mpop, Tpop, Ppop, Kpop, Jpop etc. has just the same root and that is being INSPIRED to other genre. They have unique characteristics/features so no one is copying each other. Like SB19 yes it have some similarities to kpop but they have unique characteristics too like having a unique lyrics that filipino can relate, of course they are filipino, and many more. So PLEASE bashers who are saying that other pop group are copying kpop, do a research first about kpop and other pop group before judging, in the end you are making yourself stupid.