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I recently finished a necromunda gang and moved on to painting a malifaux crew, and let me tell you, it was SUCH a change suddenly being able to paint shirt-pants-skin-done instead of endless layers of little interlocking baubles and belts EVERYWHERE
I keep looking at my Necromunda models and end up rocking in the corner, not knowing where to even start. They're too detailed. It's god-damned overwhelming if you aren't experienced in dealing with GW's over-designed minis.
Here's a trick I started using recently: get some speedpaint/contrast. You see belts, straps, pouches: paint them either white, light grey, or off white. Then pick a sensible speedpaint/contrast, your browns or blacks, then apply. Now you have decently shaded and highlighted miscellanea on your mini!
Not touching vintage Necro models? I'm a bit torn on Malifax models, though I do have a load of SW Legion models to get through. And the thought of those models is more intimating than anything GW can ever come up with - IMO.
Look at far as I'm concerned assembling Malifaux minis is a right of passage for any mini gamer. Congratulations on finding the best skirmish game though!
The gaudiness is part of the warhammer aesthetic. I can't imagine looking at a model and thinking "this would look better with less stuff on it!" I usually find myself thinking of what stuff I can add to it to make it more obnoxious.
Personally, I prefer the simpler models because then I get to pick all the obnoxious gubbins to slap onto them. A blank slate is easier to add to, or you can choose not to add to it if that's your vibe.
@@bleepsy i am new to the models part of warhammer and have only painted one necron warrior, but the entire time i had the urge to grab my exacto knife scratch in more damage (even though i gave them enough during assembly).
This is actually why I like the new Mk VI Marines for HH, as they are quite "plain" and very quick to paint, but still allow you to add more detail in forms of extra parts, transfers etc.
I think that's the best approach; as much as anything else, all the details (a lot like 'dynamic' poses) make repeats of the same sculpt stand out like a sore thumb. If you start with undecorated minis, and add the pouches, purity seals and other stff as you see fit, not only do you get your own unique model, but if you've got 2 of the same in your army, it's really easy to make them look different while still being part of the same army.
that's why I also liked the new Chosen scultps - with different detail-level torsos and pauldrons - I put together some extremely busy and ornate models (against the instruction, duh) and a few plain ones - all great in their own way
I love the details but it really depends on the model. For a luxurious and zealous space marine it makes sense, but for a basic guardsman it doesn’t. And I think generally GW does a pretty good job with that, I mean look at the Eldar troops, simple and effective
@@matthiuskoenig3378 personality-wise, maybe, which you can convert, but guard gear is mass porduced and standard issue, anything else is your worlds affectations. So they did them right.
I love Jay. Owns a massive Black Templar army and is a big fan of their lore. GW release a bunch of new black Templar models and he’s like “I’ll pass thanks”. Where as most RUclips creatures would have preordered the box and made a million videos of them opening the box, building the box, painting the box, pairing more of the box…..and son on. Keep up the good guys. Your channel is fantastic.
Love this quick and easy breakdown of the mini into broad sections of color--and I totally didn't notice the back of the tabard was still black. It is weirdly freeing to see someone who paints so well giving permission to skip over details or just giving them a small amount of color before moving on!
I recommend everyone that collects or plays with human sized factions like Imperial Guard to check out Stargrave and Frostgrave kits. Excellent stuff perfect for kitbashing
I just wanna shoutout the little things in the editing in this video. The chair spin into the painting sektion was crisp. Sometimes a mini can look bare and unfinished but when you start coloring in the little details like buttons, armor chipping or cabels it makes the whole thkng so much better. Thats basically what you do to this video. Keep up the little "quality-of-life"-like additions in the production 👍
Great work, Jay. I can see many newcomers to the hobby use your videos to paint their models. Duncan Rhodes is also a great reference, though he does use many paints to achieve the same thing. There are quite a number of good model painters to watch on RUclips, and you are definitely very good at what you do.
An Indomitus box was my first wargaming purchase I've ever made (February 2022). I can say with pride that finished the entire box before making another purchase. I really appreciate this video and the "You don't have to paint everything mentality." I started with the Assault Intercessors and spent 2-4 hours on each painstakingly painting every detail and correcting every error I made. Characters would take me an entire day of painting. When I played my first game and saw all my models at table top distance, and 5 of my 10 Assault intercessors got wiped off the table in turn 1. I got a very quick perspective on just how much time I should be spending on each model haha
I couldn’t agree more! My issue with say space marines is that it takes me 2-3 hours, which for one mini is a lot understandably. While with soldiers or even your average guardsman, is about 30 mins to 1 hour so not too bad. Really great vid by the way!
The Black Templar custom of chaining the weapon to the hand was actually something Sigismund picked up from his time dueling in the gladiatorial pits of the World Eaters legion.
I love how detailed they get… I started painting maybe a month or two ago and was totally intimidated by how complex some designs were. So I started with basic Space Marines. I’ve gotten fairly good at painting those and look forward to doing more complex paint jobs now!
Started the Indomitus box mainly for the Necrons since my primary army is AdMech and there are lots of good lore between the 2 but this gave me inspiration to get going on the Ultramarines!
I’M RIGHT in the middle of figuring out my black Templars armor technique and xenithal’ing white scar of black, but your technique of pre-highlighting and mixing contrast Black Templar with nuln and leviathan is EXACTLY what I’m looking for!!
They turned out great! Coincidentally, I finally started building my Spehz Mehreens from Indomitus last night. I have a whole 2 of them done. BUT... I have all of the Necrons built and painted (plus a LOT more on top of that), so I think I am ahead of the curve. ALSO... I do not need another wet pallet, as the Masterson Sta-Wet pallet is pretty much perfect for me... but that Cobalt Keep one looks pretty cool and they keep sponsoring you guys AND... I am a sucker for Kickstarters, so I threw a few bucks their way. Thanks for making me spend more money, jerks.
I always paint all the details on my minis (at the moment Sacred Rose soros) even if the details are hidden and on the battlefield hard to spot. I always go for the eavy metal style (love that comic look). I dont mind that every single miniature takes it time, thats why I also dont use an airbrush for shortcuts. For me its all about the journey. And you will really get to know every single one of your minis when painting every detail thats there. :)
The video actually turned out much less toxic then i anticipated from the titel. Glad you got the curve and focused on your educational tips and tricks instead of just ranting off. Love it, pls keep on giving!!
Never thought of painting everything in the Indomitus box as such a great accomplishment. I think it took 2 months or so everyday. Sure, I'll take it though as being a part of the cool kids club. 😎
Great result. I like experimenting with variations on a colour scheme. I always feel like when I paint I’m bringing the model to life - fleshing it out, telling a story. And when that black rim paint goes on, it’s like closing the book!
Phenomal job! The extra effort you put into the right places makes all the difference! Thanks for all your great advice! And great work on the video-ing Nick :)
I’m so glad I chose to go with Blood Angels as my main army, if it wasn’t for the Mephiston Red rattle can a good half of my army would still be in my POS
My very 1st space marine I ever painted was a Primaris Lieutenant, so to me, I associate the quintessential space marine as a primaris one. One day after watching a video on mini painting, I just wanted to start painting and that was the one that caught my eye first, so I bought it. That was almost a year ago. Sure, it was difficult at times to paint, but I soldiered on and proved to myself I could paint it even though it was pretty intimidating and at times believed I couldn't get those really detailed tiny parts done. I even painted most of it with synthetic brushes which started curling not long after using them, but I persevered. What really sucked was when I strted painting, I bought a Raphael 2 brush, bc lot's of ppl recommended it & I guess I did something wrong or it was a dud bc it split very badly very quickly. I don't even know or remember if it was actually useable the 1st day of painting. Probably not. Anyway, great vid. Thank you.
Fantastic video as usual. I've recently returned to the hobby after many years, thank you so much for your videos as they are really fun and quite motiviational too, your energy is infectious! Thank you for helping me return gracefully :)
The indomitus box was my first full box that I finished, the whole thing took me 1.5 months but my husband and I did it together so that really helped get it done.
I just kitbashed an ordo malleus inquisitor for my guard army out of a grey knights librarian. It was fun adding on all the extra bits and demon heads and custom chopping a cross topper for his force stave. But MAN is there a lot going on with him. Hes absolutely covered in stuff. Im looking forward to painting him to be as gaudy and flashy as possible. Nothing cooler than an inquisitor in full battle rattle.
Nothing is better than the feeling of actually having the end of a project in sight. My nighthaunt army has at least 150 models, and currently, only 34 waiting on paint. Hoping to have them done by the end of the year, unless I get more
I absolutely agree, that the GW miniatures have too much detail. In addition, they often lack empty surfaces big enough for decals or freehanding. This is why I love the Knights and Titan models, because they give you the empty space to be creative.
I‘ve just taken a look at them, and yes, they are insanely detailed. But the nice thing about them is, that their details are actually in scale to the rest of the model. Space Marines aren’t very detailed most of the time (although they have a lot of edges for you to highlight). However GW details are always way too large and out of scale. At least Marines have dedicated surfaces for heraldry. Shields and banners should include an empty default version, which lets the painter choose their own heraldry.
@@mathiasroth1416 GW models are actually very balanced around the scale and are made to be readable from a tabletop distance. The details are very well designed in that regard. They're less meant to be proportionally accurate models and I personally like it way more this way. It's easy to make a super detailed model, but way harder to make it simple and balanced.
As someone who has been building some of the new Chaos Knights recently, I wholeheartedly agree. It's also part of the reason why I'm actually really excited for the Leagues of Votann because they've got chunky armour that isn't covered up by all sorts of useless nonsense - so I can add my own useless nonsense in as great or as small quantities as I like.
I definitely am in the "they are too detailed" camp. Try painting a chaos space marine army from scratch. It'll be 13th edition by the time you're ready for a game.
I work with pigments for sealants and almost every batch has blue added to it. Clear, white, and black all have blue to make colors more neutral and deeper.
I do paint my ws black, then drybrush em grey and again lighter grey w a lil stippling, then go to work w watered down colors so the drubrushing underneath shows through
I made my cutom chapter bird-inspired, so I added lots of feathers and little greeblies....its a CHORE to paint them! but damn do they look so cool when theyre done!
I think it makes sense in terms of making more expensive models seem more worth it, but it would be cool if most of the unique parts are more modular and loose bits in the kit, a good example of this is the Krieg guardmen from the Octarius kit, they have a lot of options for extra details, but they are mostly loose bits. Making them ideal to add to bases, or make 1 guy a carrier of everything, while keeping their overall look simple.
I'm painting a Primaris Cap with a shield right now (funny it's also BT) and decided to skip all the stuff on the legs and knees to draw more attention to the center of the mini.
I’m quite new to the hobby so I might not have the most fleshed out takes but I really enjoy the details so far on my plague marines and yeah I needed a lot of individual paints but now I have some more paints to experiment with on future models
@@rutgaurxi7314 Nice! I reckon I’ll probably end up doing that. I like a mouth-stomach here or a tentacle there, but when one regular plague marine has a dozen different mutations or expose organ etc, it becomes a bit overwhelming to imagine painting 2000 points of them.
@@taliesinbreen It really does become a bit much. I'm trying to move my models closer to the third edition metal models, as they capture the right atmosphere for the Death Guard, at least as far as I'm concerned.
You dont have to paint every little bit and detail its own seperate color. Plenty of things on a gw model that can be "skipped" or cheated on and still look good. Sometimes over detailing only leads to burn out and half finished work in the shame pile. From the get go I always ask what can be spared the excess time and articulation. Belt buckles? Little skulls on the guns? Every little ornament on a necklace?
As someone who is relatively new to 40k models but not to 40k lore, I've been finding myself going out of my way to buy the gaudier/more detailed kits (e.g. Blood Angels Assault Terminators or Firstborn Death Company models) because GW generally seems to be avoiding that level of detail/overdecoration in a lot of the newer models they put out, so whenever they put out stuff that is highly detailed it is a win for me. Plus any molded detail saves me from having to freehand! Primaris proportions I like, but when they skimp on detail (especially chapter stuff like on the Death Company Intercessors) it makes me long for the older stuff.
How am I supposed to paint the contents of my Indomitus box; it is covered in shrink wrap? Those Blade Guard look great. The tilting shields are very cool.
As a beginner the amount of details can seem daunting. Both in the amount of investment for different colors, but also the fear of messing em up. On one hand, sometimes less is more, on the other, the increased amount of details highlight important characters.
Also, Games Workshop paints their minis a certain way for another goal: To get you to buy their paints (also why they don't talk about mixing paint). I just finished my Stars of Akarios board game minis and there were relatively few colors I used straight from the bottle, no-mixing. I almost always mixed to achieve the blue or brown or red present in the picture I was trying to emulate.
As I'm just getting started painting Warhammer 40k (Sisters of Battle), coming from painting games like Star Wars: Legion, Marvel: Crisis Protocol and ASOIAF, Warhammer models are definitely much more detailed. I often stick to painting simply (sticking to a basecoat or two and maybe a few highlights followed by some washes, or using contrast/speedpaint), focusing on getting miniatures on the tabletop, and Warhammer miniatures definitely cause me to put more time into them due to the details. Although I've practiced more advanced techniques, I'm not trying to win a Golden Demon. I appreciate a great, 4+ hour paint job, but it's not my job to paint amazing models for RUclips, and that probably accounts for why I'm more interested in getting my miniatures ready for battle.
i consider myself a novice painter im not good at blending and all that but these more busy models i have alot of fun and practice with all the different materials on the models from metals bone leather skin and other types of metals and leathers even gives me alot of practice (helps me practice trying to paint neatly too) as busy as they are idk, i kinda like em
In a very few codex’s mixing and thinking down paints are starting to be recommended by GW( the big example is the most recent skaven codex with the horns and mulch examples)
The Space Marine designs are so good because they don't need excessive amounts of detail to be effective. Like the classic Stormtrooper or Boba Fett they have a strong silhouette and relatively low amounts of detail. I like the 'new' Horus Heresy sculpts for that reason. Much cleaner and simpler than the Primaris but just as strong a design.
I think the models look awesome but as a newbie they also look very intimidating. I bought the commander class starter box and I’m saving that bladeguard for last. First gotta build up some experience or I wouldn’t even know where to begin on a model like that.
This is partially why I like Necrons, not covered in pouches, grenades and other details! Also the cobalt keep wet pallet looks good, but it comes with a copper disc - what is that for?!
Some armies still have a lot of more simple designs if that's your thing. Huge parts of the Tyranid army are a couple of colours with shading and a lot of the Ork army I'm currently painting is basically one or two piece clothing with some sort of basic belt and a gun.
I would have just applied the black decal sheets anyway and then used them as a guideline to speed up the freehanding process! If you stay within the lines well enough you even have a defined black edge to add some depth, even over a black shoulder pad!
I don't know if anyone will see this. But I love this kind of tips. I'm having problem of being to precise. It takes me hoouurs to paint one small fighter. I want it to be perfect. But it takes too much time. I will buy airbrush once cuz I see it's so much easier to paint with it
i just finished painting a dark angels captain with relic shield and yet never once did i truly wish for less detail, it is exactly as gotty as i think a warhammer 40k superhuman captain with an ancient archaic gothic space marine sized shield should be
9:04 "no one will ever look at those pouches anymore". Except guys that will turn around your model to see if you painted everyhting, except the judge(s) if you are doing a competition, except you when playing your models, except.. well, you get the drift
@@EonsOfBattle I know but the point was : you said "nobody will ever look at those pouches anymore". My point being "it's not true, those who I named will"
I'm really struggling with the praetors from the Horus Heresy box because of this. I don't like to use sub assembly if I don't have to and I didn't with them..... I made a mistake. The amount of detail on them is ridiculous.
The Problem isnt that some Minis get to obnoxious detailed....ist that every god damn Mini gets obnoxious detailed. Blade Guard Vets? yes please, they are badass elite warriors. my run of the mill foot warrior that i gotta paint 40 off? please no, keep them simple. the new MK6 marines are a great for that. they look good and they dont have tons of edges, trims etc. easy to paint in mass while characters get the Bling Bling treatment.
I know you mentioned in this video that you don't like painting with metallic paints. I would love to see how you would paint up a kill team of Grey Knights.
I painted some Blade Guard Vets when I first started painting and it was surprisingly easy but also tedious. It's would probably take you twice as long to build and paint them compared to a normal Marine.
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I recently finished a necromunda gang and moved on to painting a malifaux crew, and let me tell you, it was SUCH a change suddenly being able to paint shirt-pants-skin-done instead of endless layers of little interlocking baubles and belts EVERYWHERE
I keep looking at my Necromunda models and end up rocking in the corner, not knowing where to even start. They're too detailed. It's god-damned overwhelming if you aren't experienced in dealing with GW's over-designed minis.
We had this in Warhammer fantasy for years!
Here's a trick I started using recently: get some speedpaint/contrast. You see belts, straps, pouches: paint them either white, light grey, or off white. Then pick a sensible speedpaint/contrast, your browns or blacks, then apply. Now you have decently shaded and highlighted miscellanea on your mini!
Not touching vintage Necro models?
I'm a bit torn on Malifax models, though I do have a load of SW Legion models to get through. And the thought of those models is more intimating than anything GW can ever come up with - IMO.
Look at far as I'm concerned assembling Malifaux minis is a right of passage for any mini gamer. Congratulations on finding the best skirmish game though!
The gaudiness is part of the warhammer aesthetic. I can't imagine looking at a model and thinking "this would look better with less stuff on it!" I usually find myself thinking of what stuff I can add to it to make it more obnoxious.
Same always adding more to my models! Legit spend so much time buying bits lots on eBay to add more
Personally, I prefer the simpler models because then I get to pick all the obnoxious gubbins to slap onto them. A blank slate is easier to add to, or you can choose not to add to it if that's your vibe.
@@bleepsy exactly, I don't want GW dictating what is on the model / I have to spend forever removing details I don't want.
@@bleepsy exactly, also the choice to have some parts look smooth to make the gubbins stand out is nice
@@bleepsy i am new to the models part of warhammer and have only painted one necron warrior, but the entire time i had the urge to grab my exacto knife scratch in more damage (even though i gave them enough during assembly).
my guy should have seen Confrontation models back in the day...that was some detail gallore :D
This is actually why I like the new Mk VI Marines for HH, as they are quite "plain" and very quick to paint, but still allow you to add more detail in forms of extra parts, transfers etc.
I think that's the best approach; as much as anything else, all the details (a lot like 'dynamic' poses) make repeats of the same sculpt stand out like a sore thumb. If you start with undecorated minis, and add the pouches, purity seals and other stff as you see fit, not only do you get your own unique model, but if you've got 2 of the same in your army, it's really easy to make them look different while still being part of the same army.
Same, they're like a blank canvas that I can put on my own details to taste.
Jup i love the New HH Modells but unfortunatley i hate the System.....
that's why I also liked the new Chosen scultps - with different detail-level torsos and pauldrons - I put together some extremely busy and ornate models (against the instruction, duh) and a few plain ones - all great in their own way
@@Alptraumkrieger811relic terminators and relic dreads say hi. Also just use the mk 6 to build tac squads
I love the details but it really depends on the model. For a luxurious and zealous space marine it makes sense, but for a basic guardsman it doesn’t. And I think generally GW does a pretty good job with that, I mean look at the Eldar troops, simple and effective
Now that I think about it, that might be why guardsmen and termagaunts are the last really old basic troops still sold?
@@BlastedRodent don't forget ork boyz
why doesn't it make sense for guardsmen? if anything the average guardsmen is more religious and superstitious than your average marine.
@@BlastedRodent new guardians are still pleasantly simple, granted they needed a refresh more than even the cadians
@@matthiuskoenig3378 personality-wise, maybe, which you can convert, but guard gear is mass porduced and standard issue, anything else is your worlds affectations.
So they did them right.
I love Jay. Owns a massive Black Templar army and is a big fan of their lore. GW release a bunch of new black Templar models and he’s like “I’ll pass thanks”. Where as most RUclips creatures would have preordered the box and made a million videos of them opening the box, building the box, painting the box, pairing more of the box…..and son on.
Keep up the good guys. Your channel is fantastic.
You and a few others have inspired me to collect Black Templars and I love your Templars! I do paint differently but I still like’em
Painting all the details on a GW mini means that my painting time investment actually validates the amount of money I spend on them.
Same here 👍👍!
Totally agree my outlook is if I pay 15 pounds in the UK I means I should get at least 15 hours out of it
Absolutely agree thats the reason I chose to finally take the leap. I love the detail. Building amd painting is cathartic and therapeutic.
Love this quick and easy breakdown of the mini into broad sections of color--and I totally didn't notice the back of the tabard was still black. It is weirdly freeing to see someone who paints so well giving permission to skip over details or just giving them a small amount of color before moving on!
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These are both true statements. Both companies give you so much kit bash fodder for very good prices.
I just wanna shoutout the little things in the editing in this video. The chair spin into the painting sektion was crisp. Sometimes a mini can look bare and unfinished but when you start coloring in the little details like buttons, armor chipping or cabels it makes the whole thkng so much better. Thats basically what you do to this video. Keep up the little "quality-of-life"-like additions in the production 👍
Great work, Jay. I can see many newcomers to the hobby use your videos to paint their models. Duncan Rhodes is also a great reference, though he does use many paints to achieve the same thing. There are quite a number of good model painters to watch on RUclips, and you are definitely very good at what you do.
An Indomitus box was my first wargaming purchase I've ever made (February 2022). I can say with pride that finished the entire box before making another purchase. I really appreciate this video and the "You don't have to paint everything mentality." I started with the Assault Intercessors and spent 2-4 hours on each painstakingly painting every detail and correcting every error I made. Characters would take me an entire day of painting. When I played my first game and saw all my models at table top distance, and 5 of my 10 Assault intercessors got wiped off the table in turn 1. I got a very quick perspective on just how much time I should be spending on each model haha
I couldn’t agree more! My issue with say space marines is that it takes me 2-3 hours, which for one mini is a lot understandably. While with soldiers or even your average guardsman, is about 30 mins to 1 hour so not too bad. Really great vid by the way!
Only 2-3 hours? How?
The Black Templar custom of chaining the weapon to the hand was actually something Sigismund picked up from his time dueling in the gladiatorial pits of the World Eaters legion.
These look so good! My biggest wish for this hobby is that every participant genuinely enjoys it, whatever that means to them 👍👍
Thanks!
I love how detailed they get… I started painting maybe a month or two ago and was totally intimidated by how complex some designs were. So I started with basic Space Marines. I’ve gotten fairly good at painting those and look forward to doing more complex paint jobs now!
Started the Indomitus box mainly for the Necrons since my primary army is AdMech and there are lots of good lore between the 2 but this gave me inspiration to get going on the Ultramarines!
I’M RIGHT in the middle of figuring out my black Templars armor technique and xenithal’ing white scar of black, but your technique of pre-highlighting and mixing contrast Black Templar with nuln and leviathan is EXACTLY what I’m looking for!!
They turned out great! Coincidentally, I finally started building my Spehz Mehreens from Indomitus last night. I have a whole 2 of them done. BUT... I have all of the Necrons built and painted (plus a LOT more on top of that), so I think I am ahead of the curve. ALSO... I do not need another wet pallet, as the Masterson Sta-Wet pallet is pretty much perfect for me... but that Cobalt Keep one looks pretty cool and they keep sponsoring you guys AND... I am a sucker for Kickstarters, so I threw a few bucks their way. Thanks for making me spend more money, jerks.
Jay is the Yoda of mini painting!
I always paint all the details on my minis (at the moment Sacred Rose soros) even if the details are hidden and on the battlefield hard to spot. I always go for the eavy metal style (love that comic look). I dont mind that every single miniature takes it time, thats why I also dont use an airbrush for shortcuts. For me its all about the journey. And you will really get to know every single one of your minis when painting every detail thats there. :)
Love the energy and enthusiasm you share with us for your hobby.
Keep on going on
The video actually turned out much less toxic then i anticipated from the titel. Glad you got the curve and focused on your educational tips and tricks instead of just ranting off. Love it, pls keep on giving!!
"Luckily most of the details are right here in his crotch, so I'm gonna treat it like one big object." Enjoy, Jay.
I love the wall of detail. Overly ornate is the style of 40k and I love it.
Never thought of painting everything in the Indomitus box as such a great accomplishment. I think it took 2 months or so everyday. Sure, I'll take it though as being a part of the cool kids club. 😎
Meanwhile me thinking GW models details are just on spot: Looking at you ArchVillain.
Great result. I like experimenting with variations on a colour scheme. I always feel like when I paint I’m bringing the model to life - fleshing it out, telling a story. And when that black rim paint goes on, it’s like closing the book!
Phenomal job! The extra effort you put into the right places makes all the difference! Thanks for all your great advice!
And great work on the video-ing Nick :)
I’m so glad I chose to go with Blood Angels as my main army, if it wasn’t for the Mephiston Red rattle can a good half of my army would still be in my POS
My very 1st space marine I ever painted was a Primaris Lieutenant, so to me, I associate the quintessential space marine as a primaris one. One day after watching a video on mini painting, I just wanted to start painting and that was the one that caught my eye first, so I bought it. That was almost a year ago. Sure, it was difficult at times to paint, but I soldiered on and proved to myself I could paint it even though it was pretty intimidating and at times believed I couldn't get those really detailed tiny parts done. I even painted most of it with synthetic brushes which started curling not long after using them, but I persevered. What really sucked was when I strted painting, I bought a Raphael 2 brush, bc lot's of ppl recommended it & I guess I did something wrong or it was a dud bc it split very badly very quickly. I don't even know or remember if it was actually useable the 1st day of painting. Probably not. Anyway, great vid. Thank you.
Fantastic video as usual. I've recently returned to the hobby after many years, thank you so much for your videos as they are really fun and quite motiviational too, your energy is infectious! Thank you for helping me return gracefully :)
The indomitus box was my first full box that I finished, the whole thing took me 1.5 months but my husband and I did it together so that really helped get it done.
Can't lie, 1.5 months for Indomitus, especially as your first box, is a bit sus.
I just kitbashed an ordo malleus inquisitor for my guard army out of a grey knights librarian. It was fun adding on all the extra bits and demon heads and custom chopping a cross topper for his force stave.
But MAN is there a lot going on with him. Hes absolutely covered in stuff. Im looking forward to painting him to be as gaudy and flashy as possible. Nothing cooler than an inquisitor in full battle rattle.
I actually like the detail of GW models. I enjoy painting and you can choose to detail as much or as little of the model as you like
Nothing is better than the feeling of actually having the end of a project in sight. My nighthaunt army has at least 150 models, and currently, only 34 waiting on paint. Hoping to have them done by the end of the year, unless I get more
As usual, the best inspiration of John Blanche lead to the best posture and painting. Jay is the hand, eye and soul of the Black Templars.
Thanks for making me buy those Minis cant wait to paint them aswell! As always your Paintjob in insane! Much Love and keep up the good Content!
I love that artwork reference you showed (the one about the shield). I actually have it on a box displayed in my room.
Great black templars paint recipe. Really helped me paint more efficiently, thanks man 👍
Your channel is such a blast.
I absolutely agree, that the GW miniatures have too much detail. In addition, they often lack empty surfaces big enough for decals or freehanding. This is why I love the Knights and Titan models, because they give you the empty space to be creative.
have you seen archvillaingames minis??? their new lizard warriors are way more detailed than a space marine xD
I‘ve just taken a look at them, and yes, they are insanely detailed. But the nice thing about them is, that their details are actually in scale to the rest of the model. Space Marines aren’t very detailed most of the time (although they have a lot of edges for you to highlight). However GW details are always way too large and out of scale. At least Marines have dedicated surfaces for heraldry. Shields and banners should include an empty default version, which lets the painter choose their own heraldry.
@@mathiasroth1416 GW models are actually very balanced around the scale and are made to be readable from a tabletop distance. The details are very well designed in that regard. They're less meant to be proportionally accurate models and I personally like it way more this way. It's easy to make a super detailed model, but way harder to make it simple and balanced.
As someone who has been building some of the new Chaos Knights recently, I wholeheartedly agree. It's also part of the reason why I'm actually really excited for the Leagues of Votann because they've got chunky armour that isn't covered up by all sorts of useless nonsense - so I can add my own useless nonsense in as great or as small quantities as I like.
I definitely am in the "they are too detailed" camp. Try painting a chaos space marine army from scratch. It'll be 13th edition by the time you're ready for a game.
You can avoid painting your pile of shame by stepping on it? This opens up so many possibilities. . .
I feel kinda weird now finishing the Indomitus Box after a month when it dropped.
Really impressed with how you painted the decals freehand. Goods job bro.
I work with pigments for sealants and almost every batch has blue added to it. Clear, white, and black all have blue to make colors more neutral and deeper.
This sounds like a job for my newly patented "paintbrush with a sniper scope mounted onto it"
I do paint my ws black, then drybrush em grey and again lighter grey w a lil stippling, then go to work w watered down colors so the drubrushing underneath shows through
Glances over to my recently purchased Infinity miniatures... that have a LOT of details.
The fact that Jay keeps losing against Nicks orks is pretty lore accurate. Keep it up
You are a beast, great work and such an important topic to prevent hobby burn-out! 👍🏻
I made my cutom chapter bird-inspired, so I added lots of feathers and little greeblies....its a CHORE to paint them! but damn do they look so cool when theyre done!
I think it makes sense in terms of making more expensive models seem more worth it, but it would be cool if most of the unique parts are more modular and loose bits in the kit, a good example of this is the Krieg guardmen from the Octarius kit, they have a lot of options for extra details, but they are mostly loose bits. Making them ideal to add to bases, or make 1 guy a carrier of everything, while keeping their overall look simple.
I'm painting a Primaris Cap with a shield right now (funny it's also BT) and decided to skip all the stuff on the legs and knees to draw more attention to the center of the mini.
I don’t suppose painting over the decal would work, would it?
I’m quite new to the hobby so I might not have the most fleshed out takes but I really enjoy the details so far on my plague marines and yeah I needed a lot of individual paints but now I have some more paints to experiment with on future models
Have you ever tried Tamiya paints through the airbrush? Specifically flat white. It was a game changer for me. So buttery smooth.
holy moly this video is so good. that black armor is excellent
I feel this way about the Death Guard models. I love all the grossness but they’re such busy models
I snipe off the tentacles and fill in a few holes, not to mention taking the time to head swap them and those models 100% better.
@@rutgaurxi7314 Nice! I reckon I’ll probably end up doing that. I like a mouth-stomach here or a tentacle there, but when one regular plague marine has a dozen different mutations or expose organ etc, it becomes a bit overwhelming to imagine painting 2000 points of them.
@@taliesinbreen It really does become a bit much. I'm trying to move my models closer to the third edition metal models, as they capture the right atmosphere for the Death Guard, at least as far as I'm concerned.
The nmm with metallic hi lights is a great idea, thanks.
out of spite, I'm going to kitbash more skulls onto my next space marine.
You dont have to paint every little bit and detail its own seperate color. Plenty of things on a gw model that can be "skipped" or cheated on and still look good. Sometimes over detailing only leads to burn out and half finished work in the shame pile. From the get go I always ask what can be spared the excess time and articulation. Belt buckles? Little skulls on the guns? Every little ornament on a necklace?
As someone who is relatively new to 40k models but not to 40k lore, I've been finding myself going out of my way to buy the gaudier/more detailed kits (e.g. Blood Angels Assault Terminators or Firstborn Death Company models) because GW generally seems to be avoiding that level of detail/overdecoration in a lot of the newer models they put out, so whenever they put out stuff that is highly detailed it is a win for me. Plus any molded detail saves me from having to freehand!
Primaris proportions I like, but when they skimp on detail (especially chapter stuff like on the Death Company Intercessors) it makes me long for the older stuff.
How am I supposed to paint the contents of my Indomitus box; it is covered in shrink wrap?
Those Blade Guard look great. The tilting shields are very cool.
As a beginner the amount of details can seem daunting. Both in the amount of investment for different colors, but also the fear of messing em up. On one hand, sometimes less is more, on the other, the increased amount of details highlight important characters.
Man i discovered your channel yesterday. I am not into WH40k or any board game but i cannot stop watching :)
This video just accidentally became the best black armor technique I’ve ever seen on RUclips. Thank you so much!!!
One of the things I've noticed is that the Lieutenant from the Recruit version 9e starter set seems to be just a blade guard veteran
Also, Games Workshop paints their minis a certain way for another goal: To get you to buy their paints (also why they don't talk about mixing paint).
I just finished my Stars of Akarios board game minis and there were relatively few colors I used straight from the bottle, no-mixing. I almost always mixed to achieve the blue or brown or red present in the picture I was trying to emulate.
As I'm just getting started painting Warhammer 40k (Sisters of Battle), coming from painting games like Star Wars: Legion, Marvel: Crisis Protocol and ASOIAF, Warhammer models are definitely much more detailed. I often stick to painting simply (sticking to a basecoat or two and maybe a few highlights followed by some washes, or using contrast/speedpaint), focusing on getting miniatures on the tabletop, and Warhammer miniatures definitely cause me to put more time into them due to the details. Although I've practiced more advanced techniques, I'm not trying to win a Golden Demon. I appreciate a great, 4+ hour paint job, but it's not my job to paint amazing models for RUclips, and that probably accounts for why I'm more interested in getting my miniatures ready for battle.
i consider myself a novice painter im not good at blending and all that but these more busy models i have alot of fun and practice with all the different materials on the models from metals bone leather skin and other types of metals and leathers even gives me alot of practice (helps me practice trying to paint neatly too) as busy as they are idk, i kinda like em
I like it, i love to spend my time on detailed modles, i like my stuff to look the best I can
In a very few codex’s mixing and thinking down paints are starting to be recommended by GW( the big example is the most recent skaven codex with the horns and mulch examples)
The Space Marine designs are so good because they don't need excessive amounts of detail to be effective. Like the classic Stormtrooper or Boba Fett they have a strong silhouette and relatively low amounts of detail. I like the 'new' Horus Heresy sculpts for that reason. Much cleaner and simpler than the Primaris but just as strong a design.
I think the models look awesome but as a newbie they also look very intimidating. I bought the commander class starter box and I’m saving that bladeguard for last. First gotta build up some experience or I wouldn’t even know where to begin on a model like that.
This is partially why I like Necrons, not covered in pouches, grenades and other details!
Also the cobalt keep wet pallet looks good, but it comes with a copper disc - what is that for?!
The copper disc is probably to prevent mold etc from growing on the wet pallet as copper has antimicrobial properties
Have you done a video on your shelving? If not could you say if are a DIY or a store bought option?
oh dayum! those swords look so fire in contrast to the black armor :o
I took have been painting black templar I'm def gonna try the contrast method you showed here
Some armies still have a lot of more simple designs if that's your thing. Huge parts of the Tyranid army are a couple of colours with shading and a lot of the Ork army I'm currently painting is basically one or two piece clothing with some sort of basic belt and a gun.
I would have just applied the black decal sheets anyway and then used them as a guideline to speed up the freehanding process! If you stay within the lines well enough you even have a defined black edge to add some depth, even over a black shoulder pad!
I don't know if anyone will see this. But I love this kind of tips. I'm having problem of being to precise. It takes me hoouurs to paint one small fighter. I want it to be perfect. But it takes too much time. I will buy airbrush once cuz I see it's so much easier to paint with it
And now people are begging GW to add more details
i just finished painting a dark angels captain with relic shield and yet never once did i truly wish for less detail, it is exactly as gotty as i think a warhammer 40k superhuman captain with an ancient archaic gothic space marine sized shield should be
Can you add a timer like how long it took you to make these models start to finish?
I'm apart of the illustrious club that still hasn't gotten to a single Indomitus model.
9:04 "no one will ever look at those pouches anymore". Except guys that will turn around your model to see if you painted everyhting, except the judge(s) if you are doing a competition, except you when playing your models, except.. well, you get the drift
competitions have standards, just playing a game doesn't, you don't even HAVE to paint your minis
@@EonsOfBattle I know but the point was : you said "nobody will ever look at those pouches anymore". My point being "it's not true, those who I named will"
I'm really struggling with the praetors from the Horus Heresy box because of this. I don't like to use sub assembly if I don't have to and I didn't with them..... I made a mistake. The amount of detail on them is ridiculous.
The black wash you use that contains nuln oil. Is it the old nuln oil or the new one?
The Problem isnt that some Minis get to obnoxious detailed....ist that every god damn Mini gets obnoxious detailed.
Blade Guard Vets? yes please, they are badass elite warriors.
my run of the mill foot warrior that i gotta paint 40 off? please no, keep them simple.
the new MK6 marines are a great for that. they look good and they dont have tons of edges, trims etc.
easy to paint in mass while characters get the Bling Bling treatment.
Dick Tabard sounds like a Private Investigator who works on Black Templar cases.
It's taken me a week to paint a single bladeguard. And I'm not even done yet
I know you mentioned in this video that you don't like painting with metallic paints. I would love to see how you would paint up a kill team of Grey Knights.
I painted some Blade Guard Vets when I first started painting and it was surprisingly easy but also tedious. It's would probably take you twice as long to build and paint them compared to a normal Marine.
A circle with spikes as the motife?... please report to your local inquisitor for questioning.
Can I ask where you get the chapter marking/colour charts from?