The Last Good Space Marines
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To this day, the power fist sergeant is in my opinion, the best space marine ever sculpted
That whammer of a powerfist is just epic.
Those turned out amazing. Your "paint by numbers" assessment of how Space Marines are usually painted I think can be applied to basically anything GW-related, especially if you only watch their videos and buy their products. We need more videos like this to show that getting a little artsy and learning some basic color theory can really elevate one's hobby. This is a legitimate form of art and GW approaches it more like a scientific formula.
not me exclusively priming in black because I hate detailing:
I have these Sternguard, I have to agree with you, they are some of my favourite space marines ever made and I'm not sure that will ever change. Love the videos, keep up the good work :)
The old veteran models were amazing
I also have these veterans, they're probably the best minis out there
You know, seeing oldhammer art next to the new stuff surprised me. They actually work well together.
They look really cool Jay, the base coat really added a lot of interest and saturation that otherwise would have been lacking. I recently found that purple ink works really well for shading nmm bronze, if you glaze yellow ink over it, it starts to look more reddy brown but the slight blue hue creates an extra level of depth that really adds to the effect. Experimental painting is where growth happens :) great job as always guys.
I read "Retro Marines" and I instantly think of bases with drybrushed sand and trims in Goblin Green 😅. Jay, this is an amazing paintjob and I'd agree that these are your best marines so far - this red/purple blend thing is just next level and the lenses are superb.
Love your videos - you are my fav mini painting channel by a country mile
You’ve a great attitude towards the hobby! Thanks for the video.
These have got to be some of the best paint jobs I have seen from you. Awesome job
I really, really like how these turned out. Great job!
These look great, really distinctive and atmospheric. Plus, it seems a method that lends itself to speed painting.
Those are nice. Love the quick way you did the metals 🤘🏼
I enjoy the history of the space marines. Lately I been finding older sculpts on ebay and the sort. And I honestly been loving the experience, adding character to your army with a little variety is always fun. Little treasures that tell there own story.
Oh man I still have these, I remember painting them up for a school project.
they look so much better after repaint... very well done !
Really cool paint job, never seen it done like this before, Results are awesome!
Excellent video; thank you!
Awesome paint job, as always. I have the metal Sternguard and Vanguard Vets, great models. I added them into my BT army as well!
These are great, you nailed it!
Fantastic video thankyou jay
I love the A.demidov style so much, and this reminds me of his work. You nailed these, beautiful job. You legend, you make three videos a week and stream every night, and paint epic mini's. And always more to say c:
These are probably the best ultra marines I’ve ever seen ,well done jay!
Not only do I agree that that old metal, Sternguard kit is one of the best set of sculpts EVER, but it was really enjoyable to watch you work through your inventive process. Well done!
Wonderful paint job on gorgeous sculpts.
Your quick photoshop demo made this style of painting finally click for me. That lil quick bit you showed somehow made sense to me, thanks
Man, these came out so good. I love the red undercoat, want to try something similar with some Salamanders. Great stuff!
This video makes me so happy.
My sister (a very talented art school graduate) taught me color theory when I was getting back into miniatures in 2020. Learning to paint well was my competitive escape from the chef world where the stress of that was eating me alive… I found it very relaxing to be practicing these new skills like nmm glazing and osl. They were hard and my good minis turned to sucky minis but then they started to get good again, but I was getting stressed from painting. So I started painting in the same “painterly” style in this video, and started having a blast again.
the minis are good but not where I always wanted them to be as compared to like the heavy metal guys and golden demon dudes
Seeing this video makes me happy because now I know that this style can lead to breath taking results if I just keep practicing it! Thank you!
Love the bases, for mine I want to put cork on the bottom and build from there.
Man. They look great. I always find it riveting the way you explore your capabilities and try out different styles.
Do you ever paint canvas instead of models?
Wow, what a level up. These are the most interesting Ultramarines I've seen in a looooong time
I gotta say, I’d love to see a more in depth guide of how you handled these. They look amazing! Love the loose style.
I need a techno song that’s just looping “dark blue, blue, light blue” for 20 minutes
I love your work.
Damn those are nice man! Really loving the red underpaint and makes the Smurfs a lot more interesting
I think they look brilliant 😉 old school hot rods used to use a red primer before painting blue to good call
These are definitely a core aspect of my mini hobby and what I most associate with 40k thanks to when I started. The paint job came out great, theres a lot of energy to it that almost makes them look glowing.
Your metal Ulras look fantastic. Those were some clever ideas and I'll have make a note of them.
Ay very cool! Two hobbies coming together, minis and coffee!
This red base looks absolutely amazing! I think I'll try something like this for the space marines in my Ultimate starter. I've just gotten back into 40k and painting after having done other stuff for 20 years. It a very exciting time for me :D
I had those, many years ago... but they are not the OG, old school.
I remember buying the Rogue Trader rules along with the first giant plastic set of marines, all Corvus pattern helmets, studded shoulders... that’s proper old! Heck, I even had a metal power armoured human miniature hefting a shuriken catapult. Wouldn’t find that sort of xenos armament these days!
Indeed. These were one of the last box sets I bought before I stopped collecting.
My marine army had 1988 beakies included as my other veteran squad.
Those lens look fantastic
They look awesome! Well done. And I agree with ya, the new models are opportunities, not setbacks.
A cool black templars color combo for the paint style you just did could be a reddish-brown undercoat, black basecoat, and blue-grey highlights. Could give it a rusty look
"Warhammers are a group very receptive to change" that line aged like fine wine 😂
Looks great!
As a kid my favourite were the vanguard veterans. That was the first time I grew a pair and highlighted, wish I still had them, might have to get em again, You've left me feeling inspired bro
You were by my side all along. My one true mentor, my guiding mark 7 marines.
they look amazing!
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Can I ask what blue you used as a highlight color? It looks great on them, especially with the tinting of the blue wash!
The Buy Painted reference made me check- the dude's last video was 6 years ago! Unsurprisingly, his painting still holds up with what's being done now.
GOD DAMN THESE LOOK MAGICAL
I have LITERALLY NEVER SEEN ultras this GOOD
Dude, that looks awesome.
I use a magenta ink shadow with a mixture of talassar blue and aethermatic blue contrast for the blue of the armour so it’s transparent enough for my undercoats to show through I didn’t even think of making a glaze through the airbrush incredible job
These look great... somehow they remind me a lot of "The Death of Hope" fanfilm. The red cast gives it a look as if it's sunrise/set or the battlefield is awashed in flames.
love the buy painted mention, he is a legend
Just noticed you covered the lamp with a translucent paper. Will steal!
Oh damn EoB, getting sponsorships now? Y'all work really hard, I'm glad!!! And still keeping awkward segways into ads, love it.
6:22 Did I hear degloved? *happy Excoriators screams*
How do we get GW to send Jay the new Horus Heresy box. I wanna see what would happen with those...
Great video. Makes me want to buy some old space marines... Having discovered the hobby with AoS and only getting into 40K with 8th ed I've never had anything but Primaris.
I never would have guessed it was an old metal model in the thumbnail. A good paintjob can really make them hit different.
Always wanted to get my hands on these models!
This video is major inspo.... I'm about to paint a bunch of ynnari... this paint job upside-down might be it!!
‘Expanding the crusade’ was what the Thunder warriors were told as well
I love the thinking with the red base, if I'm not mistaking, you could have gone yellow, you would have some greenish shadows/reflections, which could compliment very well a green base, like the light reflecting on the grass or anything else in the same vibe, but man you killed it
i knew before i saw any images that you meant sternguard. The models that made me fall in love with marines. (I quite liked the chapter masters too, but never got round to getting them)
That would be such a cool way to paint black armor. I might have to try something similar for my Iron Hands. Without an airbrush, thinking white primer, violet basecoat or even contrast, metal drybrush/pseudo-zenithal, watery dark coldgrey for the highlights?
Brown with judociously stippled gold looks really good, I'm gonna have to try gray and silver...
That is a really nice looking squad ✨
Once again you've done some older models proud.
_Fucking Legendary!_
Jay: Firstborn are coming to an end
Horus Heresy: Allow me to introduce myself.
Those Ultamarines look very cool with that more painterly paint job.
Those Sternguard veteran models are among the best GW produced, compared to other Marine models, they had produced up to then. Like the paint job. I wish I could do that as I want to paint my models and use them as the missing 2nd and 11th Legions. I am working on their Lore, and can only hope it will approach the depth of the 18 known Legions. Keep up the great work, Jay.
These models are so cool. I'm repainting the sergeant right now for my Iron Hands. They never get old and look so much better than the sternguard models that came out later (the plastic ones). 🥰
We do need an updated tactical marine kit to be true scale
Mark VI Horus heresy models
Dirty truescaler
0:30 Eehhhhhh, speaking for myself, not really why people are mad. It's not even true realy. Space marines aren't taller now, there's just other space marines that are taller than the existing space marines.
I myself and I expect other people have reservations about primaris marines cus they're kinda just a soft replacement of what we were invested in. If you don't like space marines and collect something else, chances are your bread and butter units have gotten an upgrade to newer modelling standards lately, or it's written on the wall that they eventually will do.
Regular actual marines that a lot of older fans are invested in are (or were with the new horus heresy stuff, fingers crossed) basically the only thing that had a red stamp on them basically guaranteeing they'd never get a real update because their new more marketable pseudo-space marine friends are toddling around getting in new fans at the detriment of old ones. The funny part of that is that while regular marines are stuck in stunty limbo, primaris marines are only around the height regular ones should be. So technically the entire range is stuck in slightly-shorter-than-they-should-be purgatory.
I know some people have coped with it just fine but for me I'd only really be able to stomach getting primaris stuff en-mass if I could sustainably get regular marines in true scale alongside them, hence the spark of hope that is those new Mark 6 marines. I can only hope we'll see those scalings get ported over to mark 7 and 8 bois (also my precious Mark 3's pls). If I can get my favourite old marine squad types and armour varities standing shoulder to shoulder with the new guys rather than stuntedly hovering around the height of new regular human models, I'll be very happy.
I tried red under blue for my crimson fists, it's a nice effect for sure.
Contrast undershade is amazing. I first tried it on the critters in the OG WarCry box and they ended up being the best painted out of the box, to the point when I play WC, people fawn over them and not the *actual* dudes. lol
Mad respect for the buy painted reference
EOB: "Space marines as we know them are over..."
10th edition: "Are you sure about that?"
I'll never be sold on primaris marines. They can have good stories, nice looking models, but early lore did a lot of damage and for me they represented a shift in universe dynamic to a less grimdark setting and that just doesn't jive with me. I even have a similar problem with the newer Horus Heresy books.
The designs of the older stern guard look just fantastic and they were a great choice for this kind of scheme, if ever you get your hands on some tyranic war veterans you have to do something as interesting with them, they're just great older kits
What are your thoughts on Primaris a year later?
@@SWTobito0702 I think they've released some very good models, but I put emphasis on SOME. I think the new sternguard vets look very good and are a good kit for the range, same with the terminators if you count those as primaris, but for every 1 adequate - good model or kit it feels like there's 4 or 5 that are just bad and they really saturate the 40k range when it's a game that's got to give love to everyone.
As for lore, they'll always be lacking. Part of that feels like the transition to a more friendly 40k universe instead of what it was between about the late 90s - early 2010s, the real soul crushing "you're all f*cked" kind of deal. Like the primaris are introduced and they take away what makes chapters cool and unique to replace it with hope. The most readily coming to mind is the Blood Angels who knew they as a blood line were pretty much on their way out, that they were getting more blood thirsty as the generations wore on and that they should go off on a high note. Primaris come along and that problems solved, they have no more black rage or red thirst. The writers realize it's a bad idea and then they back pedal, but still they can just pump out armies of primaris marines in no time.
Kind of driving away but also leaning into chapters and their identities, they also have well established and unique cultures and heritage that have developed as a result of centuries or millenia. Like how do you reinforce a chapter that practices ritualistic cannibalism? These marines get there and they just accept something that slowly became more and more accepted over centuries? Then there is the universal aspect of ancestor worship. Wargear isn't just weapons and armor, it's a connection to the chapters past and their heroic deeds, when a marine puts on his armor he is literally stepping into the boots of the last guy who wore it, it's a connection to past glories and to his past that he must uphold. There's a huge aspect of ancestor worship in every chapter, even the most practical ones. All of that is erased by the introduction of primaris marines. Their armor is brand new, their tanks are brand new, their mindsets are brand new, they change the unique chapter identities and when they don't it feels forced and unbelievable.
@@kurthasedd7923like for example I like the idea with the Imperial Fists due to time fighting instead of being more defensive they're pushing in they got whittled down and nearly wiped out and then primaries came and fixed their entire problem out of nowhere
@@commando7238 Yeh that's a perfect example. There are great ways to change a dynamic for a particular, they have been done before. Contrasting with the Imperial Fists, I look at the Iron Warriors and see a huge change between the Horus Heresy and now, without losing their identity. The Crusade and Heresy saw them wasting lives in grueling sieges, they relied on their logistics to whittle down enemies. M.41 the Warsmith is sieging Hydra Cordatus and the Iron Warriors are infiltrating the planet like the Alpha Legion, performing night time raids, using daemon and xenos slaves etc. but at their core they're still siege masters and salty about everything.
If they wanted to expand the sizes of chapters though, they should've just changed the codex astartes to accomodate more marines. For me, this would have been a satisfactory solution to the problem, because they're not going to be "magic wand waved - issue gone" deal, but allows for a slow escalation and change rather than playing chess and flipping right to checkers
Jay finally cracked the secret to get me to watch an ad segment, nerdy coffee.
"Nothing is over! Nothing! You just dont turn it off!"
I'm kinda stuck in the mindset of paint by numbers and neatness, just goes to show you can get amazing results just letting go of shooting for perfection, they look so cool!
My local hobbyshop sells used warhammer models. They have two entire buckets full of tactical marines. I am really tempted to just buy up a ton to have a firstborn army I can display somewhere.
I may also switch out my primaris model's helmets with the oldschool ones, as I find the old vader-esc helmet super cool.
By the way, do u have any recommendations for airbrushes because I've been meaning to get one but I don't know which, if u know what I mean
The blue looks great
Ok these look so good.
What airbrush do you use? Im trying to find an airbrush, cause man I feel kind of stuck at where I am painting wise, and I need some help finding one that will be worth spending the money on.
Woot you know Jay has made it having ads!!! And just like him it has a gaming ulterior motive, making it better for all. I love this guy and what he represents, good wholesome gaming awesomeness.
10:45 I think i still fall under your statement but i do like finishing an army and never buying anything else for it. It makes me feel happy like i accomplished something until i start the next army.
You should try the Space Marine Heroes range. Genuinely great modern sculpts of classic Marines.
Thanks! Can we get a video of crimson fists.
I got these guys at home, I painted them as different chapters many times, right now they are a squad of Crimson fists along with Pedro Kantor
What colour would you use as a base coat contrast for teal space marines? i was thinking yellow might be best (much like the goblins you did in a similar style)
Really great comic book kind of style
Going to try pigments soon, thanks for the clarification! How do you set the fine sand etc on the bases? When I paint my bases the sand starts moving because of the watery paint
I use a thinned layer of PVA glue to keep the sand in place, then you should be able to paint it once it's dried
Okey! So if you read this, first off… this have to be my favorite channel of inspiration when it comes to painting and hobbying in general. This technique you did now… I k ow you said you were tired of marines BUT ;) plz a Black Templar using this theme or style how to put it.
I just picked up 12 of these metal marine’s, plus metal Kantor and a customised land raider for them all to travel in. All for Kill Team 2.0
Cool Nightlords dude.
These look great, really nice job. I do really like the primaris marines and exclusively purchase those for my space marine army now largely down to their far superior scaling, however i would like one small change or two made and that is, please GW put a variety of helmets on the sprue like you used to, there was always a couple corvus and then some helmets had target finders extra cabling etc, in a similar vein, the chest armour always used to have a variety of decorations, an Aquila, little skull, or just a vent port. Made them a bit more interesting and not so much like exactly the same guy in a bit of a different pose. Please just release a little upgrade sprue with a few varieties. If they do end up completely phasing out firstborn marines i'd be pretty sad if i couldn't get some mk 7 helmets to pop on my primaris.
Damn, I really love that red base coat. I'm gonna try new a new chapter with a dark Fang/Mechanicus Standard Grey base colour soon, and this has inspired me to maybe try giving them a rich purple (?) base coat to make the colours pop a bit more. Worth a try!