Can Marines From 2003 Compete with Modern Primaris?

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  • Опубликовано: 11 янв 2025

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  • @Sgt.Dornan
    @Sgt.Dornan 3 года назад +918

    The best way to enjoy retro 40k is to just play imperial guard or craftworld eldar in 9th edition.

    • @yoyoyo9669
      @yoyoyo9669 3 года назад +23

      haha well said!

    • @michaeldorn5330
      @michaeldorn5330 3 года назад +6

      What are all u guys gonna bitch and cry about when elder and imperial guard get done

    • @yoyoyo9669
      @yoyoyo9669 3 года назад +55

      @@michaeldorn5330 im not crying or bitching i just thought it was funny i play imperial guard among other armies and i think theyre great how they are!

    • @TN-ci4ox
      @TN-ci4ox 3 года назад +5

      @@yoyoyo9669 I added some Cadian gasmask heads now I like em better

    • @deerhawk7788
      @deerhawk7788 3 года назад +31

      @@michaeldorn5330 ohhhhh no are they possibly upset that eldar have ancient kits and lots of fine cast, are they upset we still only have 2 regiments for imperial guard with one being outdated and ugly.

  • @marcwittkowski5146
    @marcwittkowski5146 3 года назад +360

    "Long range close combat weapons"... Spoken like a true Black Templar. Love it.

    • @EonsOfBattle
      @EonsOfBattle  3 года назад +57

      It's really just preemptive self-defense.

    • @D00M3R-SK8
      @D00M3R-SK8 3 года назад +2

      I've recently converted to BT's. I used to play Blood Angels, but they haven't had many primaris updates, so I decided to give BT's a go now that they have loads of really nice new primaris minis. I'm really hoping we get a Primaris Landraider Crusader, and maybe even a Primaris Chaplain Dreadnought as well.
      I'm a big fan of assault space marine chapters. I played BA's since I was a wee lad. I am thinking about starting some White Scars as well though and making them a bike heavy army. I am hoping I can convert the regular space marine bikes to have primaris riders though, as I really don't want any "stumpies" in my armies.
      I know we have the outriders now, but I think we still need some regular space marine bikes for an army. Maybe I can convert the outriders to have the correct weapon load out's though. I think the idea of a biker gang astartes army is awesome.
      I think anything that's not on bikes I'll likely use drop pods to get into the thick of it, maybe a flying transport or two. I used to run the flying transports in my BA army. I'd drop a Death Company Dread out of it, and a squad of death company out of the other one. It was a shame that there was such a glaring weakness in the DC rules though (the fact they attack the closest enemy) as they were able to be exploited. They were incredibly string for about a week, then people worked out they could just kite them.
      I ended up playing Nurgle CSM instead after this. This was way before the Death Guard plastics though, and we actually had to convert our plague marines from plastic CSM kits. I mean we did have some plague marine minis, but only 5 or sculpts. We used to actually cut out the abdomen from the plastic CSM kits and sculpt in bloated bellys with green stuff.
      TBH what got me into doing this was that I seen an army where someone had made blood angels infected with nurgle, and the conversions were gorgeous. the freedom the nurgle CSM players had with conversions really spoke to me and from then out I collected Nurgle CSM.
      I still have a Nurgle CSM army now, but I have all new Death Guard plastics. I'm just taking my time with them as they're a passion project, and I want to get them exactly right.
      So I picked Black templar as my army I will paint faster to play games with. I thought the paint scheme was simple enough where I didn't have to do lots of testers, and also the scheme is already locked in. With my Nurgle CSM I have so many options on how to paint them. Whether to stick with green or go another colour, then what method to achieve the colour I want.
      It's nice to have an army like BT where the colour scheme is already locked in, and I can just crack on with painting and converting them, without all the sleepless nights about how to do them. I think the most work will be adding details to my 3 redemptor dreads. I want to add lots of bits and bobs to them to sell that they are BT.

    • @marcwittkowski5146
      @marcwittkowski5146 3 года назад +1

      @@D00M3R-SK8 I am confused. Why did you choose my comment to reply to it without actually replying to it seven months after I commented?

    • @D00M3R-SK8
      @D00M3R-SK8 3 года назад

      @@marcwittkowski5146 I only seen the video last night.

    • @D00M3R-SK8
      @D00M3R-SK8 3 года назад

      @@marcwittkowski5146 also I was wasted.
      the comment wasn't supposed to be as long as it was. it just kind of kept going.

  • @f0rth3l0v30fchr15t
    @f0rth3l0v30fchr15t 3 года назад +279

    I mean, the plastic is a different colour, but that's the same genestealer sculpt that was in 1st ed Space Hulk, so that's now a 32 year old sculpt.

    • @elrondorio
      @elrondorio 3 года назад +19

      It was not identical but slightly modified, as the toes of one foot were curled under unlike the totally flat-footed 'stealers from the original Space Hulk and Deathwing boxes.

    • @youhell2328
      @youhell2328 3 года назад +15

      i'm 21, i've been in Warhammer since 14 or so, my first army was Tyranids. 2 years ago one old guy that visits my local GW store quite usually, spoke to me about some retro and old minis that he had in his home, the next time i saw him, he gifted to me 24 old Genestealers and a modern Broodlord, i was so happy and so thankfull to him. It's so crazy to me that i play and paint miniatures that are older than me thanks to this old man. He usually gives some boxes away to people that usually comes to the shop and has a good relationship with him, he is trully a veteran that has been in the hobby practically since the start and has a enormous collection. He also likes to share his skills in painting and kitbashing, but he never plays, he says that is not a good loser so prefers not to play at all. The ancient and mightiest of all our community.

    • @kharnifex
      @kharnifex 3 года назад +3

      Same model from space crusade, just the basenis newer

  • @seanclarke8015
    @seanclarke8015 3 года назад +209

    Sprue layout isn't actually computer generated. Darren Latham confirmed in an interview that it is all human design that they consider int he miniature design process.

    • @drekbleh7081
      @drekbleh7081 3 года назад +56

      So sprue space efficiency skills got so good folks thinks they're computer generated and thus have a less "human" feel to them versus the older(less space efficient) ones.
      There's something either philosophical or psychological going on here

    • @Stormeris
      @Stormeris 3 года назад +27

      I don't believe them.

    • @arielnir2679
      @arielnir2679 3 года назад +24

      Well, they are probably using a CAD program to make the mould.
      I bet it is in CAD that the sprue is made, with the bits imported from a 3D sculpting program.
      So they most likely run a simulation on how the plastic flows and make the sprue after those results.
      I guess when he says human made, he meant it like that, dont think there is an automated program to do that for them.

    • @danepatterson8107
      @danepatterson8107 3 года назад +16

      IF you believe anything GW say in interviews, you might be a squig

    • @seanclarke8015
      @seanclarke8015 3 года назад +2

      @@danepatterson8107 🙄

  • @joshua-pm9cg
    @joshua-pm9cg 3 года назад +71

    2003 was the peak of mainstream interest in the hobby, every one and there mum's was collecting the stuff here in the uk back then!

    • @musikforkveld
      @musikforkveld 3 года назад +2

      Yes. The tail end of 3rd? Tau and Necrons were fresh and the average game was 1500 points and arguably still skirmish.

  • @danbull
    @danbull 3 года назад +139

    This is cool - aren't those models originally from 1993 though?

    • @bionicgeekgrrl
      @bionicgeekgrrl 3 года назад +13

      Yes, 2nd edition starter set had 20, plus the first plastic orks.

    • @raincoast_bear
      @raincoast_bear 3 года назад +7

      @@bionicgeekgrrl Um no. There were plastic multi part Orks in 1989 iirc. It’s rare to see pics of them. They were pretty crap.

    • @penguinothedestroyer6890
      @penguinothedestroyer6890 3 года назад +1

      Must be using the same sculpts

    • @xx1norm1xx
      @xx1norm1xx 3 года назад +3

      Nice to see you here Dan!

    • @adamduffield7782
      @adamduffield7782 3 года назад +1

      Yeah, they used those molds for a decade, pretty much all starter sets between 1993 to 2003 used these marine models

  • @tristanellis-mascoll1171
    @tristanellis-mascoll1171 3 года назад +131

    Jay you are mistaken in one point: the sculpts you painted are not 3rd Edition.
    They are leftovers from 2nd Edition repacked for 3rd.
    The actual 3rd edition plastic marines were the first multiposeable Tactical Space Marines.
    I am from the time of 3rd hutting the world.
    With the first edition that came with a stand alone core rulebook.
    Also the instructions of Battleforces.
    I ended playing as the Tau were teased for 40k. Rumors had it that 40k introduced the mercenary system that Fantasy had.

    • @danepatterson8107
      @danepatterson8107 3 года назад +2

      @Tristan: What's your favorite rules edition of 40K and why? Respectfully curious: I stopped after 5th edition (which I liked overall).

    • @tristanellis-mascoll1171
      @tristanellis-mascoll1171 3 года назад

      @@danepatterson8107
      Difficult question for me.
      I started end of second, played some years third, paused for RL reasons, came back end of 8th, or more precise had one game before Corona-Hysteria, and here we are now. 9th is waiting for learning.
      But the similarities with 3rd and the more streamlined gameplay is pretty appealing to me.

    • @christopherswindells1237
      @christopherswindells1237 3 года назад +1

      I remember when those multi-pose Tac-Marines came out! I bought a set and that was where my love of conversion and kitbashing started. I specifically remember a White Dwarf article that went over some options you could try to make things look unique. Oh the good old days when GW actually loved player creativity!

    • @andrewmarrington5654
      @andrewmarrington5654 3 года назад +5

      The first multiposeable tactical space marines were the plastics from first edition.

    • @tristanellis-mascoll1171
      @tristanellis-mascoll1171 3 года назад

      @@andrewmarrington5654
      I didnt knew Rouge Trader had plastic miniatures at all.
      But after that, the tactical Marines introduced in 3rd were the first multiposeable ones I came across.
      Before you had the starter box in plastic and the blister ones in metal to do the job.

  • @tonyz.6105
    @tonyz.6105 3 года назад +34

    I work in automotive manufacturing and can tell you 1) yes, a computer algorithm 'nests' the parts into the sprue based on known dimensions, 2) they conduct flow analysis to ensure every part is filled every time and doesn't mar or warp the part due to variances in cooling and 3) this saves them a huge amount of time and money in reduced scrap, waste and higher customer satisfaction. They have also been making injection molded plastics for a few decades and have gotten pretty good at it by now.

  • @seriouslycoolful
    @seriouslycoolful 3 года назад +16

    I remember 40k being extremely popular in the early 2000s (in the UK at least). Official and unofficial shops in most towns, all running clubs where you could go and build models and play games. Very cool model job btw! The cat litter and cork was a nice touch

    • @mishkata348
      @mishkata348 2 месяца назад

      Is it still as popular now?

  • @geralt43
    @geralt43 3 года назад +29

    I find citadel Wraithbone to work really great on Black Templars shoulders.

  • @KabinMiniatures
    @KabinMiniatures 3 года назад +10

    These exact space marine sculpts were my very first models I ever bought and painted over 20 years ago. They were cast in grey plastic though and came in a Start Painting box. I believe one had a missile launcher as well. Good memories...

  • @anotherzingbo
    @anotherzingbo 3 года назад +206

    Be fair, those monopose tactical marines looked a bit janky even when they were first released in 1993!

    • @luketfer
      @luketfer 3 года назад +17

      BUT they were really cheap at the time. It was like...I think £8 for a full set of ten tactical marines (this is back when GW did a box of 20 skeletons for like a fiver). The only other option were the all metal kits which were, for the time, fairly expensive.

    • @thequestbro
      @thequestbro Год назад +5

      I think they look AMAZING. I love the old squat marines. They have so much more charm to them than the tacticool primaris.

    • @anotherzingbo
      @anotherzingbo Год назад +4

      @@thequestbro I much prefer the beakie marines that preceded the monopose mkVII marines, they had far more charm and character in my eyes.

    • @thequestbro
      @thequestbro Год назад +2

      @@anotherzingbo they're all good. It's primaris I hate. Generic garbagio.

    • @entropyad
      @entropyad Год назад +1

      @theviewbot nah im with you. sculpts have become amazing. Nostalgia is for people who cannot change.

  • @dominginiify
    @dominginiify 3 года назад +12

    I am not sure about going through an airbrush but Formula P3 is super smooth for standard painting. Their line of paints are naturally thin so it might be really good for airbrushing. Menoth White or Menoth White Highlight might be a good option!

  • @yedme666
    @yedme666 3 года назад +9

    When you started gushing about sprues i was like wtf? But you opened my eyes to something i never would think two seconds about. Thats a like in my book :)

  • @yoyoyo9669
    @yoyoyo9669 3 года назад +2

    you are so comforting to listen to i love watching your stuff you have a very chill voice maybe im weird idk but thank you for all the great content!

  • @Neratius
    @Neratius 3 года назад +19

    use ushabti bone and throw in the bottle (or what ever gw calls it) a few drops of tamiya acrylic paint retarder. works wonders and makes very nice smooth offwhite-ish bone colour

    • @thth-sv4bt
      @thth-sv4bt 3 года назад +2

      I have an even better recipe- one drop of Tamiya x-20a, two drops of Acrylic Medium and two drops of paint.

  • @killrockstartv
    @killrockstartv 2 года назад +1

    it was massively popular in the UK in 2003, we had a games workshop store on every major city high street.

  • @johnnnysaint01
    @johnnnysaint01 3 года назад +1

    Man the amount of B roll shots in just the getting ready to paint at the desk montage was awesome.
    There’s so much work that goes into these videos and I really appreciate it and you

  • @tehprimelime1063
    @tehprimelime1063 Год назад +1

    Gosh I remember these coming home from Gamesworkshop with my Nan and Grandad. I've not played Warhammer in decades (aside from the video games ofc) and would kill to have these talents to paint. Brought back a lot of memories and (IMO) have more personality with the proportions than the newer ones

  • @endertroller34
    @endertroller34 3 года назад +1

    9:00 i love to use that paint with a very dry brush to highlight almost everything that isn't metallic, givin it a dusty sensation or using it as a base for another dry brush

  • @RogalDorn01
    @RogalDorn01 3 года назад +3

    I've got a batch of seven old sisters sitting in acetone RN. Definitely going to paint and incorporate into my new force of the new plastics

  • @Veles343
    @Veles343 3 года назад +12

    Such a great paint job, the bases look awesome. You should do basing tutorials

    • @EonsOfBattle
      @EonsOfBattle  3 года назад +5

      I have been thinking of breaking into the basing video game.

  • @jacobbuchan7384
    @jacobbuchan7384 3 года назад +2

    Great job with the editing/montages! Really dynamic. You never fail to impress!

  • @Is_This_Really_Necessary
    @Is_This_Really_Necessary 3 года назад +1

    Space Marine Assault was released in 1994 and is one of two Starter's Boxes for Second Edition 40k, which was released in 1993. Third Edition 40k was released in 1998. :)

    • @DanishDesigner
      @DanishDesigner 3 года назад

      I was thinking this exact thing! They are 2nd ed marines and genestealers…. Was this a reprint they did out of some early nostalgic sensibility?

  • @kruxigore
    @kruxigore 3 года назад +2

    For Sigismund!!
    I started Black Templars in 4th ed. I'm glad you're educating the web on BT and our original Codex.

  • @Janovich
    @Janovich 2 года назад

    slowly falling in love with this channel. Great work :)

  • @paulfarr7
    @paulfarr7 3 года назад +2

    Yeah. I absolutely love the old boxes. Got a small collection steadily growing that I too don't have the heart to clip from the sprues.

  • @alexanderfielding
    @alexanderfielding 3 года назад +3

    I have a complete box of the 2nd edition 40k starter set and man this is getting me tempted to paint all 20 of those Tactical bois up.

  • @aboutdiamond411._.3
    @aboutdiamond411._.3 3 года назад +15

    But did you finish dusting because that’s important for allergy control

  • @jordanlindorff372
    @jordanlindorff372 3 года назад +2

    I’m not sure how well it shoots through an airbrush, but I love GWs pallid Wytch Flesh for my white cream color. It applies nicely and reads as white on the table.

  • @samidib10
    @samidib10 3 года назад +1

    Okay that background lofi just meshes so well with this video!

  • @starguy1o163
    @starguy1o163 3 года назад +7

    They may be stocky, short, and bulky as hell. But they are pure classics that might always stand the tides of time

  • @maxbrooks5468
    @maxbrooks5468 3 года назад

    Loved this video, they look fantastic! This is such a weird comment, but I’ve always been super anxious about applying decals but you’re always so enthusiastic about them that it makes me want to try applying more!

  • @samrobert8713
    @samrobert8713 3 года назад

    This was my first ever 40k box that I got from Borders book store back in maybe 2005? I painted the marines as ultramarines, then lamenters, then ultramarines, then my custom chapter...years before I found out about thinning your paints or stripping.

  • @johnhanley5546
    @johnhanley5546 3 года назад +16

    Am I old if I remember buying and still actually have a bunch of those guys!!?
    and a bunch of the plastic beakies!!!!!

    • @adamfox1669
      @adamfox1669 3 года назад +3

      Love the beakies!!

    • @EternalQuestion
      @EternalQuestion 3 года назад +1

      I also remember buying them back in the 90s, and I'm apparently super old so there you have it 🤣

    • @adamfox1669
      @adamfox1669 3 года назад

      @@EternalQuestion me too. We're not old, we're veterans

    • @johnhanley5546
      @johnhanley5546 3 года назад +1

      @@EternalQuestion So not just old - but Super Old!! - at least we're super something!!

    • @elrondorio
      @elrondorio 3 года назад +2

      Yes we're old, and despite our decades of experience we get no respect from the newer hobbyists

  • @dovakiin296
    @dovakiin296 2 года назад

    Army Painter Mummy Robes is the cream color I use. The paints a bit thick, but it isn't chunky like yours appears to be and can be thinned down as needed.

  • @cesargimenez1288
    @cesargimenez1288 3 года назад

    That was your best intro in my opinion, that was soooooo smooth and nice

  • @oc8473
    @oc8473 3 года назад +4

    This is as good as a TV show in terms of script or presentation

  • @kostuvu3156
    @kostuvu3156 3 года назад +1

    its sooooo good to see progress being made in terms of vids quality

  • @jadenprice1463
    @jadenprice1463 Год назад

    EOB I do love your work. its awesome. and seeing you paint is very theraputic. keep up the great work!

  • @Cziro_
    @Cziro_ 3 года назад

    Hey! Very nice video! And I still have 70 oldschool 3-6 ed. Black Templar Marines with about 20 Primaris added to their force ^^ Love how You make the Shoulder Pad creamy colour!

  • @wilkothewilkoman
    @wilkothewilkoman 3 года назад +1

    Love the way you paint your templars. My painting is in the earlier stages of both experience and paint collection but I've been trying to paint templars recently. I've been trying to make my shoulder pads similar to yours for a while (even tried to freehand a templar shoulder insignia on one...gonna buy some decals). I really like how you did the guns red on this video, I'm gonna try that next.

  • @johnbeaudoin7820
    @johnbeaudoin7820 3 года назад +20

    Oh man, you could have spent a whole half hour just clowning on that manual . . . COULD you make a half hour video clowning on that manual?

  • @thequestbro
    @thequestbro Год назад

    Bro I LOVE your Black Templars. Their color scheme is absolutely sick.

  • @EternalQuestion
    @EternalQuestion 3 года назад +41

    As someone who actually lives and grew up in Nottingham, I have to take this opportunity to point out that you Americans always hilariously over pronounce the 'ham' in any British place name. I'm sure you think you're saying it correctly, but us Brits do all have a bit of a giggle every time we hear it. We're arseholes like that.
    It's not Notting-HAM. We say it more like NOTTING-um. If we're trying to sound posh we might enunciate the 'ham' a little better, but we would never put the emphasis on it like you do.
    By the way, those models were already 10 years old in 2003, having been replaced by a (far superior) multipart kit in 1998 when 3rd edition was released. However those models hold so much nostalgia for anyone who played 2E and will always be a classic. I've never seen that box before, but I assume they were trying to sell off the last few of them or something! The genestealers were the ones from the original space hulk.

    • @davetheimpaler204
      @davetheimpaler204 3 года назад +2

      Meh. Ham is delicious.
      You should EMBRACE the HAM.

    • @EonsOfBattle
      @EonsOfBattle  3 года назад +13

      gotcha so it's more notting-PORK not notting HAM

    • @elrondorio
      @elrondorio 3 года назад +2

      We folks across the pond eat way too much pork so the emphasis on the last syllable is probably cholesterol-based LOL

    • @AluminiumRabbit
      @AluminiumRabbit 3 года назад

      And according to Connor from the Trash Taste podcast, Brits like to complain about everything as well😁.
      Can you confirm or deny?

    • @Stuffandstuff974
      @Stuffandstuff974 3 года назад +1

      @@AluminiumRabbit I'm English and can confirm this.

  • @crewie94
    @crewie94 3 года назад

    Sayyyyy what?? I've never heard such love and appreciation for a sprue. Huge respect for that level of love for the humanity displayed in these earlier sets.

    • @crewie94
      @crewie94 3 года назад

      Oh man. Oh oh oh oh oh my. Love for the lore too, for that wonderfully worded Emperor "quote". Dude you earned a sub based solely on your personality.

  • @BrotherBarakiel996
    @BrotherBarakiel996 3 года назад +2

    18:07 ngl those kitbashed space marines are pretty dope

  • @tempusavatar
    @tempusavatar 3 года назад

    Vallejo Model Air range has two paints labeled as "White," 71.001 is neutral white, but 71.270 is a nice creamy warm white. When I'm painting warm white it's this color that I work towards as the final tint, and only use neutral white for the uppermost highlights.

  • @predatorgunner6722
    @predatorgunner6722 3 года назад +1

    Painting black templars chapter is like ASMR for me
    Ahh
    I wish game workshop come to my country

  • @squirtleninja
    @squirtleninja 3 года назад +1

    I love a classic & wholesome painting vid!

  • @pillowmanswe2350
    @pillowmanswe2350 2 года назад

    18:35 top right corner with rockerlauncher
    18:38 2 marines upp from bottom and 2 in from left
    18:42 far top right with bolter
    thats the 3 diffrent once i could find so pretty solid

  • @Dripstodes
    @Dripstodes 3 года назад

    BTW thanks for the painting tutorial for the black templars, i personally collect black templars and i never had a paint scheme for them, i would use layers of blue, but then they never felt like black templars, and i never found a cool paint scheme on the internet, but thanks to you're tutorial i found a cool way to paint them (i will use different colors to make them my own but i will use your help with it) thanks again.

  • @FeatsDaily
    @FeatsDaily 3 года назад +1

    Man, I remember when the Armageddon campaign boom came out in third edition, I was immediately intrigued by the Salamanders and Black Templars. Over 20 years later, I’ve completed my Salamanders, and with the 9e BT codex supp on the horizon, I think it’s finally time to start Black Templars, and if they look anything like yours, it’ll be awesome.

  • @saigitsjevstignejevs8
    @saigitsjevstignejevs8 3 года назад

    For my white paints I use Vallejo model air white, it's specifically designed, as far as I know, for airbrushes and when applied it looks really good.

  • @markmartinez1905
    @markmartinez1905 3 года назад +1

    Enjoying that different intro and music to it.

  • @woahhbro2906
    @woahhbro2906 3 года назад

    Those look great! I also love your unique style for Black Templar...definitely an improvement.

  • @alejandroballesteroshernan1678
    @alejandroballesteroshernan1678 3 года назад +2

    Jay, you may want to check some equivalent to AK 3rd gen for that bone white, such as warm grey, or smth like that. They dont clog and apply nicely with a brush.

  • @thewindowsmaaane
    @thewindowsmaaane 3 года назад

    I love mixing in old models in. Makes the army look so cool. Yours looks sweet.

  • @theoverpreparerlamenters3r436
    @theoverpreparerlamenters3r436 3 года назад +1

    Sure they can! I believe in my brothers' skill to change the odds in their favor!

  • @danbrown4420
    @danbrown4420 3 года назад

    Blast from the past here lol. Used to have some of those exact minis, painted in the same colour scheme too! I never saw anyone else collect Black Templars during my time doing 40k, real nice to see.

  • @arielnir2679
    @arielnir2679 3 года назад +2

    I like the GW way of doing bone: Zandri dust, seraphim sepia, ushabti bone, screaming skull.

  • @phoenixdblack
    @phoenixdblack 3 года назад

    3:30 That quote actually got adapted into the song "Legion" by Galaxy Aflame

  • @caseymurphy1991
    @caseymurphy1991 3 года назад +1

    Just starting black Templars going for an (almost) all Primaris army, what great timing!

  • @fire5736
    @fire5736 Год назад

    I know this video is just about two years old, but I found that Vallejo's bone white works really well over a mid to light grey base - I do that before an off white when painting white. Also make sure you shake it thoroughly - an agitator ball helps with that.

  • @jrfkelly
    @jrfkelly 3 года назад +2

    My recommendation for a replacement for Vallejo Bonewhite - Tamiya XF-57 Buff. Thin it in the bottle with Tamiya X-20A thinner and it air-brushes like a dream. You can still brush it on, it covers well, I've never needed more than two coats, it dries quickly with a completely matt finish.
    I use Tamiya for all my base coats these days, I keep Vallejo for glazing, blending and dry-brushing.

    • @frostedbutts4340
      @frostedbutts4340 3 года назад

      I should try that, everything Tamiya I've bought has been good.

  • @j453
    @j453 3 года назад +4

    I went to a construction sight with a coffee can, and a spoon.
    Yes a spoon.

  • @mr.miniaturesmodels8465
    @mr.miniaturesmodels8465 3 года назад +2

    13:14 uh… that’s not the $1.98 Reynolds parchment paper wet pallet from your last video. : P

    • @EonsOfBattle
      @EonsOfBattle  3 года назад

      I often have many wet pallets going at the same time;)

  • @vladkriuk5156
    @vladkriuk5156 3 года назад +1

    Every video is better than previous one, great job guys!
    Also killer job on those oldies.
    I started with primaris and sadly can't see myself getting firstborn other than for parts and kitbashing purposes.
    Ah my heart aches for terminators, would love to see them rescaled.

    • @EonsOfBattle
      @EonsOfBattle  3 года назад +1

      and we will never stop improving!!! I also hope the terminator sees a primaris revival

    • @themanthemyth4522
      @themanthemyth4522 Год назад

      Hey good news!

  • @T_Kempf
    @T_Kempf 3 года назад +1

    Vallejo model color 70.918 IVORY has been one of my favorite paints for years out of a collection of 500+ paints. Especially with a brush it gives me awesome 1 coat covarage where a lot of similar colors I have fail. I'm on my 3rd bottle and, so It's my most used paint after Various black and metal paints ( excluding washes/enamels, etc... that get used even more).

  • @Zugzuged
    @Zugzuged Год назад

    I know I'm a year late buuuut Titan Buff from Golden acrylics is a FANTASTIC off-white color for me!
    Love the vids Jay!

  • @Romae100
    @Romae100 3 года назад +1

    The Army Painter Banshee Brown is a good creamy colour and goes through the airbrush well.

  • @sputter112
    @sputter112 3 года назад +1

    I don't know about it going through an air brush but 21378E "Vanilla Ice Cream" from Apple Barrel's Acrylic Paint line provides ok to great coverage and is a off white substitute I use. Also it's like $1 a tube. Thanks for the video. I enjoy your content.

  • @miguipingui
    @miguipingui 3 года назад +4

    Love the intro 💕

  • @Prodzick
    @Prodzick 3 года назад +1

    "Painted models perfoms better" I remember that quote !

  • @soul_vicex
    @soul_vicex 3 года назад

    The press fit models were honestly they best, being able to play right out of the box after getting some at the end of school and playing your friend half an hour later

  • @camwardart
    @camwardart 2 года назад

    great video also a big fan of taking the old and new and putting it all together into one army.

  • @tonyennis1787
    @tonyennis1787 3 года назад

    These models look great! The new models are better but that doesn't make the old ones bad! And the paint job and bases are great!

  • @chainer8686
    @chainer8686 2 года назад +1

    My classic SM that I bought over 20 year's ago were not in blue plastic. They were grey, with black slotted bases.

  • @roturla9232
    @roturla9232 2 года назад

    I have pre 94 Space Marines and currently working on stripping the old paint as well as making them into classic Crimson Fists.

  • @azazelxxxx
    @azazelxxxx 3 года назад +6

    My Bonewhite is fine. I use a brush, but thinned with medium or water, it works fine. Not grainy, etc as whites can be. Try again, maybe? Also look into Model Air Sand or Game Air Bonewhite.

  • @lennoth4465
    @lennoth4465 Год назад

    Biolante!
    Great to see that one of my favorite warhammer channels also likes a kaiju from the greatest movie series!

  • @OldHammerMiniPainter
    @OldHammerMiniPainter 2 года назад

    When I produced those plastic miniatures for GW, the colour used was mostly mid grey, mixed in with the polymer with some lubricating agent to make them pop off the tooling mould easily. The exceptions were the plastic skeleton kits they used to produce, which was a flesh coloured master batch, can't recall its exact name right now, but we never used pinks or purples, though I left GW around 1995.
    Those genestealer sprues have been around since the 1st space hulk release, I had them around 1988 while I was still in school, which is weird because I am clearly not that old... 😆

  • @TheJoeTeam
    @TheJoeTeam 2 года назад

    I was ready to scrap some old minis. Thanks blood helping me change my mind.

  • @taylorschmid
    @taylorschmid 3 года назад +1

    Jay, ProAcryl Olive Flesh or Ivory might be the cream paint you need. Airbrushes like a dream.

  • @brandonchaplin9782
    @brandonchaplin9782 3 года назад +1

    Haven't bought that white thankfully now lol but army painter mummy robes is great, might need a little thinner of a coat then the bone white but I'm not sure. Is one of the army painter paints too that is usually good to go without much shaking

  • @D00M3R-SK8
    @D00M3R-SK8 3 года назад

    I like doing my black dark grey as well. I tend to go for corvus black undercoat (I don't own an airbrush yet) similarly I do light grey for white as well. I also collect Black Templar, but going to start a White Scars army soon as well. It will be great to get the practice in doing pseudo white and black armour.

  • @docremington1589
    @docremington1589 3 года назад +1

    A tip for the eyes: do what you do and then paint fluorescent orange by Vallejo over the entire eye! It does wonders for mimicking glowing eyes.

  • @clockworkpanda8
    @clockworkpanda8 3 года назад +1

    "A time capsule" that's how i did my orks. Your templar would look amazing with them

  • @mordredpendragon1235
    @mordredpendragon1235 Год назад +1

    In all honesty I do believe the Emperor did say that about the Space Marines

  • @apropercuppa8612
    @apropercuppa8612 2 года назад

    I realise this is a late response, but my friend suggested to me to use Vallejo Pale Grey Blue. Not quite so creamy, but a cold white that he applied over a black primer in one single coat with great coverage.

  • @Thirstycrusader
    @Thirstycrusader 2 года назад +1

    This actually really helped me paint my blood angels death company

  • @JimmyDeeola
    @JimmyDeeola 3 года назад

    You could try to splatter paint with paintbrush and a toothpick on the shoulders. Creates a nice random dots/chips/dirt. Instead of the old foam stuff. If u do it with oils you can even remove some if u like.
    You can then follow up with a small highlight under to make the pop. A little more work but u seem to like to work thouse pads 👍
    You could try Vallejos Pale Sand to see if it its better. Its a little more creamy but works great for me in the AB.
    And lastly, u impressed with the resualt. Very nicely done.
    Thanks

  • @livingthedream0527
    @livingthedream0527 3 года назад

    I don’t have old sculptures persay but I do have a army of crimson fist army from when I was in high school some of which I would love to re-paint after doing the stripped paint thing and whatever but I’m using some of them now to experiment with new paint schemes for my custom chapter before putting the paint on my primes which is working out well and I’m glad I’ve kept them and I’m even reviving some into my army as extra units to potentially use while firstborns are still able to be used.

  • @mk6marine
    @mk6marine 3 года назад

    Holy Crap!! I never saw this rulebook. 4:13 That is me 2nd from the right in the black shirt! That's right, I am one of the nerds.

  • @MrDrTJ
    @MrDrTJ 3 года назад +2

    Love this. Might have to do the same for my crimson fists

  • @durzod2052
    @durzod2052 3 года назад +2

    Try Pro Acryl Ivory or Olive Flesh from Monument Hobbies. They cover well and play well with the airbrush.

  • @julianspeed7322
    @julianspeed7322 3 года назад +1

    I reckon one of the Menoth P3 paints will sit like that Bone White if that helps?

  • @chevy-is-a-good-boy
    @chevy-is-a-good-boy 2 года назад

    Love them in the coloured plastic just the way they are.

  • @rendurai
    @rendurai 3 года назад +5

    Field them as Crusader squads and save 15 points on your list!
    Black Templars go!

  • @terminator572
    @terminator572 2 года назад

    AK Interactive colors go very well through airbrushes, they even have a cream color that color matches Vallejo