Can I FIX this UGLY Forge World Dreadnought?

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  • Опубликовано: 21 мар 2023
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  • @DrFeelGoodHelpDesk
    @DrFeelGoodHelpDesk Год назад +51

    Many years ago I interviewed at GW for a job as a mould maker for Forge World. For the majority of the interview I was not asked about my mould making experience or what the procedure was when planning a mould. Nope, every few minutes the two interviewers would proceed to repeat the line "We have to stress that you are not an artist". Cheers guys I've been making moulds professionally for over a decade (at that time), I don't need reminding "I'm not an artist". I began to ask questions about their procedures and practices, just to get an idea of what moulds I would be making day to day.
    I never got an answer. Near the end I was asked how I would go about making a mould of one of their tanks, without being given an image of the tank in question. I asked if I could see an image so I could think of a working plan, I was denied and told "You won't always get to see the model before it's sent to you for moulding" then one of them dropped the clanger "We run our shop like a film studio".......The fuck you do. In the end I drew up a rough plan using a production standard to conserving silicone and making sure moulds are defect free. I was told that this went against company standard and wouldn't be cleared. I "had to follow their rules".
    I admittedly got annoyed and said "well if you'd tell me your rules instead of having me walk in blind, then the mistake would not be made". They protested, proclaimed that "all I had to do was ask". This really pissed me off as I'd asked several times and been denied information every step of the way. They then asked where I learnt to make moulds, I told them of my training, where I'd worked and who has trained me. They dismissed the 40 year industry veteran who took me under his wing back when I started with a nonchalant "Oh yea we know him. He worked here for a time, couldn't cut it. Wasn't dedicated to the company". This was the final nail for me, in the end, after two hours of dealing with them I excused myself from the interview.
    On my way out of the building I was approached by someone on the GW staff who I knew from my local store, he had actually helped get me the interview in the first place through some work I'd done for his store at the time. He was pissed, but not surprised.
    I reached out to my old mentor a while later and he explained that FW use cheap silicone and don't maintain moulds beyond basic checks for heavy degradation. Mould makers are not allowed to modify how sculptures are broken down for moulding or even have any input on aspects of the design to ease mould making. They are forever reminded that they are not "the artist" and denied any information until the last minute. It's all about speed and cost cutting and not about getting good quality moulded parts to the customer.
    It's annoying as the FW kits are some of the best GW produce....sad their attitude is a detriment to that.s

    • @user-gh3dc7zh5y
      @user-gh3dc7zh5y 2 месяца назад +5

      That explains why FW always felt low quality and cheap even though it was meant to be the high quality premium version of warhammer

    • @DrFeelGoodHelpDesk
      @DrFeelGoodHelpDesk 2 месяца назад +4

      @@user-gh3dc7zh5y that's the really annoying thing. The resin itself isn't low quality. It's loaded with filler powder don't get me wrong, but not the level of the "Finecast" resin which was so heavily loaded it was like chalk.
      It's their treatment of moulds that have led to the "low quality" feel. That's why if you're lucky enough to get a model that's an early pull from the moulds then you're going to be having a great time with it.
      Worst kit I ever had on my desk was a warhound titan that must have been a casting from a 14th generation remould as so many parts were misaligned in areas that were not along the mould seams. Took forever to clean up to make it usable. It's the major reason I have refused to do more than one Thunderhawk over the years.

  • @Pontusjoh
    @Pontusjoh Год назад +421

    Insane what a difference those Sentinel legs did. Great paint job as well!

    • @Ranafroger
      @Ranafroger Год назад +5

      reminded me a lot of the assault robot from the office in the original ROBOCOP

    • @MakinaMakinaMakina
      @MakinaMakinaMakina Год назад +1

      Agreed, those legs transformed it from a gimpy derpy model to an awesome looking dread

    • @ShaneEversole1682
      @ShaneEversole1682 Год назад +1

      Agreed what a change. Keep up the cool content

  • @AidzWithAZ
    @AidzWithAZ Год назад +259

    I love the deredeo, it checks all the boxes for aspects of mech design I like personally

    • @DanielVisOneCade
      @DanielVisOneCade Год назад +16

      Yeah to find people don't like it is odd it's the quintessential dakka dread a near 1:1 rip off of more established mech designs but looks like it would float. 😅

    • @Coproquim
      @Coproquim Год назад +5

      Same, it’s probs my favourite design, other than the standard BoxDread

    • @celestethabest
      @celestethabest Год назад +8

      Yeah, it's like medieval battletech

    • @RedtailArt
      @RedtailArt Год назад +1

      Same, except for one of them which the kitbash his video actually checked off: digitigrade legs, those cool, funky, three-segment legs that you see on some mechs like some of the ones from Titanfall

    • @CheddarDrip
      @CheddarDrip 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@celestethabest I was gonna say the same thing, the daredeo looks a lot like a high gothic Stalker from Battletech. Its like my favorite kind of mech: top heavy and a little goofy.

  • @argokarrus2731
    @argokarrus2731 Год назад +270

    Deredeo? Ugly? What alternate universe am I living in? That's the best Dread of them all!

    • @YourLocalInquisator
      @YourLocalInquisator 11 месяцев назад +15

      Agreed

    • @abhijaman4792
      @abhijaman4792 10 месяцев назад +15

      I know right? Never expect to hear such heresy from a fan channel 😢

    • @orcvsivstitia7608
      @orcvsivstitia7608 5 месяцев назад

      One where up is down, down is up and female space marines are a thang aka Crazy town

    • @meager992
      @meager992 4 месяца назад +9

      I feel like I'm being gaslit at this point because of how much I see people loving the damn thing but then hear people say that everyone hates it

    • @pyrofrog368
      @pyrofrog368 4 месяца назад +3

      Honestly, the best dreadnought of the horus heresy, but the contemptor dreadnought is a close second

  • @daynoart
    @daynoart Год назад +237

    Hell yeah dude! I love the build videos. That lil' dude is -as you said - OBJECTIVELY cool

    • @g4fly4ever8
      @g4fly4ever8 Год назад +1

      NO FUCKING WAY DUDE I LIKE YOUR SHORTS
      didn't expect you here

  • @TheLordRemoss
    @TheLordRemoss Год назад +96

    That kitbash looks incredible. Great job. Sigismund would be proud.

  • @OmegaLittleBob
    @OmegaLittleBob Год назад +197

    Jay: “I’m not good at painting vehicles”
    Proceeds to show us some of the best looking Dreads I’ve ever seen.

    • @soffren
      @soffren Год назад +4

      I don't think he knows that those are vehicles 💀

  • @cecilsmith2061
    @cecilsmith2061 Год назад +33

    Dang, I didn't know the Deredeo received so much flak, I thought it was the type to dish it out instead. I actually like how it's a chunky, walking gun platform. I can't wait to see how you modify it.

  • @Telmach
    @Telmach Год назад +38

    I actually like the original kit as is, but this is a pretty cool change. Though at that scale it's more of a war dog than a dreadnought

  • @samuelsalvatore4511
    @samuelsalvatore4511 Год назад +7

    i love how, once you changed the legs, it went from being a dreadnaught to being a raven from armored core

  • @zombieboat
    @zombieboat Год назад +22

    This is 100% how the model should look I never wanted one before but id love to have one of your version

  • @greywulfslair
    @greywulfslair Год назад +19

    That looks fantastic! The legs really make it, good call. Well worth it. You've got one stompy walker there that looks straight out of Battletech. I love it.

  • @darkdialga777
    @darkdialga777 Год назад +1

    I love your videos. They get me excited about painting! They encourage me to try techniques I never would have that to try! Thank you EoB!

  • @Swamesame
    @Swamesame Год назад +2

    Really nice conversion! One little change made a world of difference!

  • @odharrison23
    @odharrison23 Год назад +3

    That was such a nice touch adding in the legs!! That checkerboard looks amazing!!! Thanks gents fantastic as always!!!

  • @smidgegames7233
    @smidgegames7233 Год назад

    Jay, we can really see how much you’ve improved in the past couple years with videos like this. These are seriously next level conversions, and it makes for insane content

  • @Matheis81
    @Matheis81 Год назад +1

    Your enthusiasm is inspiring. I've painted so many Templar because of your army.

  • @broncofun5636
    @broncofun5636 Год назад +2

    Great conversion, Jay! I’ll do the same with mine

  • @octopushat
    @octopushat Год назад +6

    Chicken legs look SO good on the Dorito! You could sell STLs of that one Sentinel part you used easy. Also love your risk-taking on the checks! A doubly inspiring vid.

  • @justinmacrae7430
    @justinmacrae7430 Год назад

    Radical. I love these build and paint videos.

  • @Ben_Fett
    @Ben_Fett Год назад +1

    That freehand was exactly what the model needed. Stunning work!

  • @dougjones3305
    @dougjones3305 4 месяца назад

    Changing the legs was super on point. That looks amazing.

  • @mattiasgamin9640
    @mattiasgamin9640 Год назад

    Great build and paintjob!

  • @Bearsofthelaw
    @Bearsofthelaw Год назад

    You hit the nail on the head there. the longer legs really inprove the look. Great work.

  • @avp2214
    @avp2214 Год назад

    Amazing work, both on the Doritnaught and your channel.... keep up the great content!

  • @aaronhoes
    @aaronhoes Год назад

    Would love to see more conversion projects. Awesome work!

  • @cborg4374
    @cborg4374 Год назад

    amazing conversion!

  • @andrehas82
    @andrehas82 Год назад

    Looks awesome! The legs turned out great!

  • @annaleas2091
    @annaleas2091 Год назад +1

    GOOTA SAY, THE COMEDIC TIMING OF THAT LIL ARM FALLING OFF WAS PERFECT! LOL!

  • @LjVics
    @LjVics Год назад +1

    Love these videos so much wish you did more kitbash and painting !

  • @zrrion6the6insect6
    @zrrion6the6insect6 Год назад

    excellent conversion! I've been pondering doing some sort of Deredeo conversion myself but I was focused on replacing the arms with something more normal, like what other dreads or knights have. Hadn't considered the legs at all. If I ever get around to the project I'll for sure have to figure out something for the legs as well

  • @nightlordAL
    @nightlordAL Год назад +1

    Beautiful work 👌

  • @anomalocaris36
    @anomalocaris36 Год назад

    Looks amazing, love the checkers

  • @HShaud
    @HShaud Год назад

    Amazing job on this one!😮

  • @harvestor1190
    @harvestor1190 Год назад +4

    the fact that this came out as i ordered my own deredeo, cant wait to steal all of this

  • @jeffreypace89
    @jeffreypace89 Год назад +1

    I love the addition of the bird legs, definetly pays off in both scale and dynamics. I might have used some BT bits to tie it further into my BT force, but the decals suffice well enough. Great job on the checker board! I'll more than likely be using this as inspiration for my 30k Iron Hands.

  • @dekai7992
    @dekai7992 Год назад

    I love the black. I love the conversion even more. Amazing stuff!

  • @sofiebrandt7279
    @sofiebrandt7279 7 месяцев назад

    Oh MAN! That wrapping on the checkers is BEAUTIFUL!
    GREAT job man!

  • @Mcinnester
    @Mcinnester Год назад +3

    I've always found the best way to make armor read as black again after highlighitng is to put a filter over it. Either by oil washing over a satin varnish or airbrushing something transparent like basilicanum grey or a very thinned ink. You still retain most of the contrast, but it punches it down a bit and tricks the eye into reading it as black.

  • @mordecaitoth6703
    @mordecaitoth6703 Год назад

    I was very skeptical at first but you really did make it objectively cool. Great work!

  • @emchamberlain
    @emchamberlain Год назад

    Great job Jay. It just works now.

  • @jodezero
    @jodezero Год назад

    Came out looking great. Nice video

  • @dannyindevon
    @dannyindevon Год назад

    love it! turned out really good!

  • @user-uw1xs1lf3z
    @user-uw1xs1lf3z Год назад

    Looks amazing Jay.

  • @toothless1
    @toothless1 Год назад +1

    Heresy community has been doing this epic conversion for years, it’s been called “mad catting” after the battle tech mech

  • @marcwittkowski5146
    @marcwittkowski5146 Год назад

    Those legs look insanely awesome! I was skeptical to begin with, but you actually made the dread look really good. Lovely.

  • @gfan1972
    @gfan1972 Год назад

    Best conversion I have seen!

  • @jimmyheidt1250
    @jimmyheidt1250 3 месяца назад +1

    So glad I came across this video. Have plenty of space wolf dreadnaught parts to make this fit into my army 🚀🐺

  • @Ashanlor
    @Ashanlor 7 месяцев назад

    I'd love to know more about your paint brush selection and brush care! I have a challenge keeping those points you use for the details of the checkers and eyes.

  • @baring9152
    @baring9152 Год назад

    You actually made it look cool. very nice!

  • @stefanorto
    @stefanorto Год назад

    Thst is reallly cool i love how you upgraded it nice job

  • @williamamely7038
    @williamamely7038 Год назад

    The model looks great. Very nice job, Jay. I am a beginner, in contrast, when assembling my models. Kit bashing is not something I do, but many other hobbyists, such as yourself, do kitbash. Your models look great, as a result. Keep up the great work you do.

  • @kosachilles2504
    @kosachilles2504 Год назад

    Really enjoyed the video!!

  • @Interstate_78
    @Interstate_78 Год назад

    Awesome end result!

  • @Waddo66
    @Waddo66 Год назад

    Awesome paint job, those checker *chefs kiss*. Hope my BA dread will looks as popping as your dorito dread on the table

  • @modnarpias
    @modnarpias Год назад

    Awesome kit bash! Legs are cool!

  • @hivey
    @hivey Год назад

    Looks amazing and the conversion is flawless!
    I wonder if some purity seals would be worth throwing onto it, maybe on the thighs or weapons?

  • @carlsoll
    @carlsoll 3 месяца назад

    11:09 Wow. *Really* starting to pull-together now. Satisfying seeing it switch from a model into a work of Art.

  • @philipj.sechow7118
    @philipj.sechow7118 Год назад

    The checker work was absolutely fantastic!

  • @619Slipk
    @619Slipk Год назад +1

    That Bolter vs Flamer dilema reminded me of a meme I saw recently
    2 space marines having a conversation
    "Heavy flamer? In this economy?"

    • @heavystalin2419
      @heavystalin2419 4 месяца назад

      Brother, get the flamer.
      The *HEAVY*
      *FLAMER*

  • @rogerbontemp3468
    @rogerbontemp3468 Год назад

    "Don't need those heavy flamers, nobody's gonna charge me"
    The world eaters berserkers at the back of the room smiling while "the only thing they fear is you" is playing

  • @axelstolt9213
    @axelstolt9213 Год назад

    Really slick kitbash!

  • @stidy8315
    @stidy8315 Год назад +1

    Wow something as simple as longer legs and that thing looks awesome!

  • @phoef123
    @phoef123 Год назад

    really really really well painted!

  • @Slurgical_3D_Terrain_Channel
    @Slurgical_3D_Terrain_Channel Год назад

    I love coffee in the morning and you know what I like more than coffee? Is watching your vids while having my coffee. I never played Warhammer or own any of GW models. I don’t think I will not likely ever play the game. I have no clues to where to start. But I truly enjoy your content, your talent and skills. Thank you.

  • @tumblebomb
    @tumblebomb Год назад

    Fantastic, what a great job!

  • @platosbasement
    @platosbasement Год назад

    This turned out amazing!

  • @sirhektur7879
    @sirhektur7879 Год назад +1

    Deredeo is based on Contemptor chassis with extra adjustments and reshaped hull to compensate comically large yet terrific guns. He's a walking nightmare for any aircraft in 30k and a decent shooting platform in 40k

  • @CeriMullins-nq3mc
    @CeriMullins-nq3mc 6 месяцев назад

    I want to try this for my Lamenters, thanks Jay.

  • @mikepindara8478
    @mikepindara8478 Год назад

    RUclips creators are single handedly keeping ForgeWorld in business.

  • @shmexy1787
    @shmexy1787 Год назад

    Honestly really cool model, well you made it really cool

  • @OJ14003
    @OJ14003 4 месяца назад

    The Cher board was amazing, great job Jay

  • @Genjitsu17
    @Genjitsu17 Год назад

    Great conversion. I hate checkers but you made it look great.

  • @mastryda
    @mastryda Год назад

    love seeing peeps still doing kit bashing. Absolutely makes the model. Thanks for sharing, take er easy.

  • @Fymosis
    @Fymosis Год назад

    Awesome conversion, i'll copy it when the deredeo cross the rubicon plasticus

  • @tunguskalumberjack9987
    @tunguskalumberjack9987 8 месяцев назад

    Years ago when I first came across the Deredeo, I really thought it was hideous. Mainly due to the “uni-boob” bikini front- it kind of looks like the bow of a boat. Even though I know that the heads on Dreadnoughts aren’t the actual Marine’s heads, the illusion of the Deredeo always makes me think of a shallow iron lung type tank with just the patient’s head sticking out of a hole in the top.
    Luckily, over time the Deredeo has grown on me, and I can appreciate the different design knowing that it’s purpose isn’t the same as a Contemptor or Leviathan. And it’s about two weeks from being available in plastic, so I’ll be able to afford one without going broke.
    Great job on yours- I love the conversion and paintwork!

  • @marcdonnellan8730
    @marcdonnellan8730 Год назад

    Amazing pose, really dynamic.i thought you may put a banner on one of the gun barrells too. The chequered pattern really makes it pop though

  • @stormycatmink
    @stormycatmink Год назад

    Love the conversion here. I too love dreadnoughts or any other big stompy robots, and I think the point about them being able to withstand the recoil and motion of the massive torsos is probably what throws me off the most. I really couldn't explain why it bugged me, but I think this video hits the nail on the head. I love the legs and think they solve the visual issues I had with it. Now to figure out how to replicate the same effect on my Leviathans too.

  • @timnordin3091
    @timnordin3091 Год назад

    Damn, what an amazing job! GW should try your concept.

  • @kingslayya6876
    @kingslayya6876 Год назад

    great fix. solved that proportion issue instantly

  • @roryhatfield6696
    @roryhatfield6696 Год назад

    Great job!

  • @_amosdean
    @_amosdean Год назад

    Looks awesome! Really reminds me of the game Mech Assault

  • @deebernaers137
    @deebernaers137 Год назад

    I wasn't expecting this to work, but dang it works really well to balance it all out.

  • @wolfgone9377
    @wolfgone9377 Год назад

    Awsome job 👍🏾

  • @knuckl6972
    @knuckl6972 Год назад +1

    I personally love the stock deredeo dreadnought-the silly goofy wacky silhouette gives the vibes that I love from mechas and robots-but the kit bash improves this by a large amount. Good job

  • @Lord_Vesh
    @Lord_Vesh Год назад +2

    This conversion is supreme, it looks like an AT-AP from the Star War. Now it only needs the third leg 😎 …for stability…

  • @L3GHO5T
    @L3GHO5T 7 месяцев назад

    The “yeah” from did you buy a $45 kit to use a single part had me rolling. Kudos man always love your work

  • @ProbablyFat
    @ProbablyFat Год назад

    Great work

  • @Enos666
    @Enos666 Год назад

    I'm not a big fan of checkerboards but that model now looks absolutely gorgeous and I respect the flex.
    I wish I had the skill, patience and steady hands to build something like that. Good job!

  • @euansmith3699
    @euansmith3699 Год назад

    Check out the gams on that bad boy! great work, Jay.

  • @endersblade
    @endersblade Год назад

    That thing looks amazing!

  • @nicholasmattiello8959
    @nicholasmattiello8959 Год назад

    Add the blue'd barrel from shooting until near overheating ! Maybe even make it look hot still just to add some more pop to those giant cannons. Love it bro keep it up!

  • @connornewman6696
    @connornewman6696 Год назад

    Love the new logo!

  • @woahhbro2906
    @woahhbro2906 Год назад

    Awesome job. I love it, and I'm jealous

  • @rodeo413
    @rodeo413 Год назад

    Almost looks like a tau battle suit, very cool conversion and makes me want one now!

  • @Nicklas_Danielsson
    @Nicklas_Danielsson Год назад

    That is awsome what you did with the legs.

  • @asaphillips4621
    @asaphillips4621 Год назад

    Flipping amazing

  • @collegeoffoliage6776
    @collegeoffoliage6776 Год назад +1

    Damn, this is a black templars broadside battlesuit and I love it! :D

  • @AshleyBlackwater
    @AshleyBlackwater Год назад

    Conversion came out amazingly. Didn't even see the problem before this, the default one loofs mega naff now

  • @SunnyPea
    @SunnyPea 5 месяцев назад

    Crazy scientist kitbash Jay is extra fun to watch :)